IRC log of swhack on 2002-05-09
Timestamps are in UTC.
- 00:53:43 [eikeon]
- eikeon (~eikeon@jungle.ne.client2.attbi.com) has joined #swhack
- 00:55:31 [lilo]
- [GlobalNotice] Hi all. We have an interim patch for the services problems we've been experienced since relocating them. Apologies for the problems and we'll keep you informed of progress. Thank you for using OPN!
- 00:57:46 [jillzilla]
- * jillzilla returns from a half hour of rowing.
- 00:57:54 [sbp]
- * sbp waves
- 00:58:03 [jillzilla]
- * jillzilla smiles and waves.
- 00:59:20 [jillzilla]
- Still working on a demo, sbp?
- 00:59:53 [sbp]
- I am indeed
- 01:00:01 [sbp]
- just testing it further now, in fact
- 01:03:29 [sbp]
- demonstration:-
- 01:03:35 [chumpette]
- chumpette (~chumpette@m605-mp1-cvx5a.pop.ntl.com) has joined #swhack
- 01:03:40 [sbp]
- chumpette, { ("http://example.org/#blargh" "#") string:split ?x } => { ?x a :Result } ?
- 01:03:41 [chumpette]
- _:bxvum <http://www.daml.org/2001/03/daml+oil#rest> _:nfrzf .
- 01:03:41 [chumpette]
- _:nfrzf <http://www.daml.org/2001/03/daml+oil#rest> <http://www.daml.org/2001/03/daml+oil#nil> .
- 01:03:44 [chumpette]
- _:bxvum <http://www.daml.org/2001/03/daml+oil#first> "http://example.org/" .
- 01:03:45 [chumpette]
- _:nfrzf <http://www.daml.org/2001/03/daml+oil#first> "blargh" .
- 01:03:45 [chumpette]
- _:bxvum <http://www.w3.org/1999/02/22-rdf-syntax-ns#type> <#Result> .
- 01:03:51 [chumpette]
- chumpette has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer))
- 01:03:58 [sbp]
- there. more power than CWM now, AFAIK
- 01:04:06 [jillzilla]
- heh.
- 01:04:23 [jillzilla]
- I suspect I won't be having any heart-to-heart conversations with chumpette any time soon.
- 01:04:39 [sbp]
- heh: inadvisable, certainly
- 01:10:05 [jillzilla]
- <jillzilla> chumpette, I have to tell you what happened today!
- 01:10:42 [jillzilla]
- <chumpette> _:1klahq <http://www.nraughr.org/asdjk#adfjk#bubba> "nargle"
- 01:10:48 [jillzilla]
- <jillzilla> Oh, really?
- 01:10:53 [sbp]
- lol!
- 01:13:52 [sbp]
- I should write a pretty printer. that result is reducable to ("http://example.org/" "blargh") a :Result .
- 01:14:25 [jillzilla]
- That would probably make it more useful for whatever it is it does. But it still doesn't make for enthralling conversation. :-)
- 01:15:00 [tansaku_xf]
- we could connect her to bobbot to get a real conversation
- 01:15:09 [sbp]
- really? it has often been said that if you fed all the Notation3 in the world into CWM, it'd give you a good recipie for a chicken curry, and a plan for world peace
- 01:15:14 [jillzilla]
- Oooh, I could babble all night.
- 01:15:24 [tansaku_xf]
- CWM?
- 01:15:28 [jillzilla]
- Don't mention chicken curry. I'm going to eat soon.
- 01:15:28 [sbp]
- .google CWM
- 01:15:30 [xena]
- CWM: http://www.fme.nl/
- 01:15:33 [sbp]
- argh!
- 01:15:37 [sbp]
- .google Closed World Machine
- 01:15:39 [xena]
- Closed World Machine: http://infomesh.net/2001/cwm/
- 01:15:42 [sbp]
- heh
- 01:16:00 [tansaku_xf]
- sbp: bobbot can take arbitrary patterns and prettify them
- 01:16:11 [sbp]
- URI?
- 01:16:32 [tansaku_xf]
- he's a bot
- 01:16:37 [tansaku_xf]
- hang on a sec
- 01:16:46 [sbp]
- is the source online? is there online documentation?
- 01:17:38 [jillzilla]
- how do you sex a bot?
- 01:18:08 [jillzilla]
- * jillzilla imagines looking under the bot's tail in a most undignified way.
- 01:18:32 [sbp]
- bots have tails?!
- 01:18:41 [neb]
- neb (~neb@161.58.154.147) has joined #swhack
- 01:18:45 [jillzilla]
- hello, neb.
- 01:18:51 [jillzilla]
- * jillzilla wonders if neb is a bot.
- 01:18:52 [tansaku_xf]
- neb: hello
- 01:18:53 [neb]
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- 01:18:54 [neb]
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- 01:18:57 [neb]
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- 01:18:58 [neb]
- Ž„‚Ì’†‚ÌŒ»ŽÀ‚ðŠy‚µ‚ñ‚Å‚Ý‚Ä‚Í”@‰½H
- 01:18:59 [neb]
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- 01:19:00 [neb]
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- 01:19:08 [neb]
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- 01:19:09 [jillzilla]
- * jillzilla looks under neb's tail.
- 01:19:09 [neb]
- name:hello\\hello‚³‚ñI@‚¨‚͂悤‚²‚´‚¢‚Ü‚·B\\‚Ü‚¸‚ÍŽ„‚Ì’†‚ÌReelity‚ðŒ©‚¹‚Ä‚ ‚°‚é‚ËI
- 01:19:13 [jillzilla]
- Hmmm.
- 01:19:13 [tansaku_xf]
- oops Japanese bot
- 01:19:13 [jillzilla]
- I think neb speaks more languages than I do.
- 01:19:13 [neb]
- neb has left #swhack
- 01:19:17 [jillzilla]
- and good riddance!
- 01:19:19 [jillzilla]
- ;-)
- 01:19:20 [sbp]
- well, that was scary
- 01:19:25 [tansaku_xf]
- let me take him and switch to English
- 01:19:30 [jillzilla]
- * jillzilla hides behind sbp.
- 01:19:32 [jillzilla]
- eek!
- 01:19:41 [sbp]
- * sbp in turn hides behind a rock
- 01:19:59 [jillzilla]
- nobody in this channel except a rock.
- 01:20:02 [jillzilla]
- nope, not a soul.
- 01:20:20 [sbp]
- if it comes towards us, we'll throw chumpy at it
- 01:20:44 [jillzilla]
- yes. let's make a trebuchet.
- 01:22:09 [sbp]
- ooh, I should have a utils module! then I can cram norm, ASCIIfy, and whatever else into it
- 01:22:24 [sbp]
- oh, and a listmaking thing
- 01:22:28 [jillzilla]
- and a trebuchet!
- 01:22:32 [sbp]
- yeeeeaah!
- 01:22:37 [jillzilla]
- **fling!**
- 01:22:41 [sbp]
- heh, heh
- 01:23:12 [sbp]
- Chief Wiggum: Send him back to momma, boys
- 01:23:15 [sbp]
- [fling]
- 01:23:17 [neb]
- neb (~neb@161.58.154.147) has joined #swhack
- 01:23:18 [redmonk]
- jill: you see the PBS show on building trebuchet?
- 01:23:23 [jillzilla]
- No.
- 01:23:24 [sbp]
- Mayor Quimby: That was unexpected
- 01:23:25 [tansaku_xf]
- neb: hello
- 01:23:25 [neb]
- alrighty then
- 01:23:32 [jillzilla]
- hello, neb.
- 01:23:37 [tansaku_xf]
- he's in english now
- 01:23:40 [sbp]
- neb: you speak the English?!
- 01:23:40 [neb]
- alrighty then
- 01:23:49 [tansaku_xf]
- if you message him .help you'll get instructions
- 01:23:53 [sbp]
- neb: what sex are you?
- 01:23:54 [neb]
- alrighty then
- 01:23:59 [redmonk]
- neb is a Ace Ventura-bot
- 01:24:06 [jillzilla]
- neb: thank you for speaking English in this channel. My client can't render Japanese.
- 01:24:07 [neb]
- alrighty then
- 01:24:14 [tansaku_xf]
- neb: .rule "what sex are you*"-->"whatever you like"
- 01:24:15 [neb]
- yum - rule name: R001
- 01:24:23 [tansaku_xf]
- neb: what sex are you?
- 01:24:23 [jillzilla]
- sbp: Freudian slip, eh? Who is ned?
- 01:24:23 [neb]
- alrighty then
- 01:24:26 [sbp]
- <sbp> .help
- 01:24:27 [sbp]
- <neb> alrighty then
- 01:24:33 [tansaku_xf]
- neb: .rule [10]"what sex are you*"-->"whatever you like"
- 01:24:33 [neb]
- yum - rule name: R002
- 01:24:36 [tansaku_xf]
- neb: what sex are you?
- 01:24:37 [neb]
- whatever you like
- 01:24:37 [sbp]
- ned?
- 01:24:46 [sbp]
- brrraw
- 01:24:51 [tansaku_xf]
- he's hardly got any rules in him
- 01:25:01 [tansaku_xf]
- but you can add them to create your own bot
- 01:25:06 [sbp]
- he needs a few N3 files crammed into him
- 01:25:16 [jillzilla]
- N3?
- 01:25:25 [sbp]
- Notation3
- 01:25:31 [tansaku_xf]
- sbp: my thoughts exactly
- 01:25:53 [sbp]
- if all the infobots in the world pooled their knowledge...
- 01:26:15 [sbp]
- and then you stuck an eliza-esque interface onto it
- 01:26:15 [tansaku_xf]
- oh sorry yeah, it's not .help its just help
- 01:26:17 [sbp]
- that'd be interesting
- 01:26:35 [jillzilla]
- * jillzilla had already stumbled on to "help".
- 01:26:48 [tansaku_xf]
- sbp: if you have a message window for neb, type help
- 01:27:00 [sbp]
- already done it
- 01:27:08 [sbp]
- it's spewing stuff at me as we speak
- 01:27:09 [neb]
- neb has quit (Excess Flood)
- 01:27:15 [sbp]
- too much stuff, apparently
- 01:27:32 [jillzilla]
- dear me.
- 01:27:36 [jillzilla]
- RIP neb.
- 01:27:41 [jillzilla]
- * jillzilla removes her hat.
- 01:28:09 [sbp]
- neb... got washed away in the flood?
- 01:28:24 [neb]
- neb (~neb@161.58.154.147) has joined #swhack
- 01:28:29 [sbp]
- but oh, mama, ain't you gotta miss your best friend now?
- 01:28:35 [neb]
- talk to me
- 01:28:40 [tansaku_xf]
- neb: no
- 01:28:41 [jillzilla]
- neb!
- 01:28:41 [neb]
- alrighty then
- 01:28:41 [sbp]
- .google "you're gonna have to find yourself another best friend somehow"
- 01:28:42 [xena]
- "you're gonna have to find yourself another best friend somehow": http://www.slopbucket.com/bob/lyrics/13down_i.html
- 01:28:51 [jillzilla]
- neb: Where have you been all my life!
- 01:28:51 [neb]
- alrighty then
- 01:29:00 [tansaku_xf]
- neb: do you know any urls related to N3
- 01:29:03 [neb]
- let's see...
- 01:29:03 [neb]
- http://www.agfa.com/w3c/euler/Parser.html
- 01:29:16 [tansaku_xf]
- neb: do you know any urls related to NeuroGrid
- 01:29:17 [neb]
- let's see...
- 01:29:18 [neb]
- http://www.neurogrid.net/servlet/com.neurogrid.prime.NewsServlet?news_id=329
- 01:29:19 [sbp]
- ooh, it knows of the Euler parser
- 01:29:30 [tansaku_xf]
- neb connects to NeuroGrid to get his info
- 01:29:36 [sbp]
- cool
- 01:29:46 [tansaku_xf]
- sbp: I'm guessing you're a python guy, while neb is all in Java
- 01:29:51 [sbp]
- ugh
- 01:29:59 [tansaku_xf]
- sbp: but you can program rules into him through irc
- 01:30:08 [tansaku_xf]
- e.g.
- 01:30:30 [sbp]
- * sbp is pretty sure that's he's come across neb before...
- 01:30:31 [neb]
- I need to talk to someone
- 01:30:49 [tansaku_xf]
- neb: .rule [3]"*time in japan*"-->".time"
- 01:30:49 [neb]
- urgh: Dangling meta character '*' near index 0
- 01:30:49 [neb]
- *time in japan*
- 01:30:49 [neb]
- ^
- 01:30:56 [tansaku_xf]
- neb: .rule [3]".*time in japan.*"-->".time"
- 01:30:58 [neb]
- yum - rule name: R022
- 01:31:07 [tansaku_xf]
- neb: what is the time in japan?
- 01:31:29 [tansaku_xf]
- neb: .rule [5]"<.*>time in japan<.*>"-->".time"
- 01:31:29 [neb]
- yum - rule name: R023
- 01:31:34 [tansaku_xf]
- neb: what is the time in japan?
- 01:31:42 [tansaku_xf]
- damn that's not working
- 01:31:53 [tansaku_xf]
- previously AaronSw hooked neb up to xena
- 01:32:36 [jillzilla]
- neb and xena sitting in a tree!
- 01:32:46 [neb]
- neb has left #swhack
- 01:35:04 [tansaku_xf]
- anyways - sorry that was a bit messy - thought we might have got some good bot interaction
- 01:35:13 [tansaku_xf]
- will probably be a while before I can really clean neb up
- 01:35:15 [sbp]
- ooh, like the "you're a bot!" thing
- 01:35:25 [sbp]
- .google site:blogspace.com "you're a bot!"
- 01:35:26 [xena]
- site:blogspace.com "you're a bot!": http://blogspace.com/swhack/chatlogs/2001-11-13.txt
- 01:35:44 [sbp]
- 02:15:50 <AaronSw> Have you seen two natlang bots duel? Apparently they ended up shouting: "You're a bot!" at each other.
- 01:36:53 [sbp]
- A should put up logs with all the comments in - with authentication, of course
- 01:37:10 [neb]
- neb (~neb@161.58.154.147) has joined #swhack
- 01:37:16 [sbp]
- neb: You're a bot!
- 01:37:16 [neb]
- alrighty then
- 01:37:19 [sbp]
- heh
- 01:37:23 [tansaku_xf]
- ah no xena
- 01:37:29 [sbp]
- er... xena is here
- 01:37:35 [sbp]
- .time
- 01:37:38 [tansaku_xf]
- ah sorry didn't see the +
- 01:37:44 [sbp]
- but she's a bit borkified
- 01:37:45 [tansaku_xf]
- neb: what is the time in japan?
- 01:37:46 [neb]
- .time jst
- 01:37:57 [tansaku_xf]
- apparently so
- 01:38:30 [sbp]
- .py import time; print time.time()
- 01:38:30 [xena]
- 1020908346.51
- 01:38:39 [sbp]
- I dunno why she doesn't just use Python
- 01:38:42 [tansaku_xf]
- neb: what is the time in japan?
- 01:38:42 [neb]
- .time jst
- 01:38:51 [neb]
- neb has left #swhack
- 01:38:59 [tansaku_xf]
- anyways
- 01:39:02 [redmonk]
- cy'all - time to go
- 01:39:05 [redmonk]
- redmonk has quit ("Snak 4.8.3 - http://www.snak.com")
- 01:39:06 [sbp]
- c'ya rm
- 01:39:48 [tansaku_xf]
- good to check out neb - will have to rework him once the latest version of NG is going smoothly
- 01:40:05 [jillzilla]
- * jillzilla goes for dinner.
- 01:40:06 [tansaku_xf]
- sbp: chumpette is pythong right?
- 01:40:21 [sbp]
- s/g//
- 01:40:22 [sbp]
- yep
- 01:40:25 [jillzilla]
- * jillzilla thinks pythong sounds like very revealing beachwear.
- 01:40:30 [jillzilla]
- * jillzilla heads for dinner for real.
- 01:40:40 [tansaku_xf]
- sbp: takes in triples and spits them back out?
- 01:40:44 [xena]
- error: [Errno socket error] (110, 'Connection timed out')
- 01:40:55 [xena]
- error: [Errno socket error] (110, 'Connection timed out')
- 01:40:56 [sbp]
- .google pythong
- 01:40:58 [xena]
- pythong: http://beachdress.com/casual/redpythonminiskirt.htm
- 01:41:00 [sbp]
- c'ya Jill
- 01:41:03 [sbp]
- yep, it does
- 01:41:08 [tansaku_xf]
- cool
- 01:41:16 [sbp]
- well, it takes in triples and can either add them to the store, or query the store with them
- 01:41:32 [tansaku_xf]
- ah ok
- 01:41:39 [xena]
- error: [Errno socket error] (110, 'Connection timed out')
- 01:41:51 [xena]
- error: [Errno socket error] (110, 'Connection timed out')
- 01:42:06 [tansaku_xf]
- ng works with triples too - neb should deliver the same functionality once connected up to the new interface
- 01:42:12 [sbp]
- ng?
- 01:42:19 [sbp]
- oh, neurogrid
- 01:42:19 [tansaku_xf]
- neurogrid
- 01:43:12 [tansaku_xf]
- what have you got planned for chumpette?
- 01:44:36 [walloper]
- <lilo> Restarting services to check out the patch.
- 01:44:43 [sbp]
- Aaron's planning to give a demo with it on Saturday
- 01:45:07 [sbp]
- I just wrote chumpette tonight, but it's an interface to a lot of previous work
- 01:45:46 [tansaku_xf]
- are you planning to put some kind of app on top?
- 01:45:54 [sbp]
- the problem with RDF APIs is that you have to worry about the formats, and methods for storing things, and you have to be as flexible as possible...
- 01:46:06 [sbp]
- I've already written a small RDF diff program for it
- 01:46:12 [tansaku_xf]
- diff?
- 01:46:25 [sbp]
- like *nix diff, but for RDF files, i.e. working on triples
- 01:46:30 [lilo]
- [GlobalNotice] Hi all. We hope we've resolved the services problems for the time being. As a byproduct of this temporary fix, please specify only numeric indexes when deleting an entry from a channel access list. Thanks.
- 01:46:33 [tansaku_xf]
- ah
- 01:46:45 [sbp]
- eep3 will probably just get folded back into infogami, which is Aaron's RDF API for 'plesh
- 01:47:06 [tansaku_xf]
- how do eeps and infogami related to chumpette
- 01:47:16 [tansaku_xf]
- chumpette uses eep3?
- 01:47:20 [sbp]
- right
- 01:47:43 [tansaku_xf]
- * tansaku_xf wonders if infogami is the part of plesh that implements tristero
- 01:48:16 [tansaku_xf]
- seems like we're all working on similar things - main difference being you guys are python and I'm in java
- 01:48:48 [sbp]
- Hmm... the tristero stuff is the network code, isn't it? infogami is mainly for data storage (I forget what the network code for plesh is called)
- 01:48:59 [sbp]
- yeah. I think we're planning to develop mainly in C and Python
- 01:49:10 [tansaku_xf]
- tristero has network components and a search interface
- 01:49:27 [tansaku_xf]
- the tristero search interface specifies an API for adding and searching data
- 01:50:12 [tansaku_xf]
- anyways I better get on with the day
- 01:50:17 [tansaku_xf]
- * tansaku_xf goes for a shower
- 01:50:25 [sbp]
- fair enough, c'ya :-)
- 01:51:32 [sbp]
- * sbp isn't sure whether to factor bits of the builtins module back into cwmclone or not...
- 01:54:02 [tansaku_xf]
- * tansaku_xf isn't sure what a forward chaining inference engine will actually be used for ....
- 01:56:53 [sbp]
- powering a global P2P information space :-)
- 02:01:30 [www2002]
- www2002 (~Snak@223.142www2002.netenterprise.net) has joined #swhack
- 02:01:34 [sbp]
- Hi Aaron
- 02:01:44 [www2002]
- hi
- 02:02:01 [www2002]
- www2002 is now known as AaronSw-WWW2002
- 02:02:42 [AaronSw-WWW2002]
- laptop is flaking out again :(
- 02:03:35 [AaronSw-WWW2002]
- so timbl asked me to email amk about getting PKC into pycrypto since he took it out
- 02:03:42 [AaronSw-WWW2002]
- and also getting guido to put it into the std distribution
- 02:03:50 [AaronSw-WWW2002]
- because he really wants to sign and encrypt everything
- 02:03:54 [sbp]
- wow, cool!
- 02:04:30 [AaronSw-WWW2002]
- you're voiced, btw
- 02:04:38 [eikeon]
- RF and plesh are even using the same lang ;)
- 02:04:38 [sbp]
- aw, damnit
- 02:04:50 [AaronSw-WWW2002]
- eikeon, :-)
- 02:04:58 [sbp]
- it always does it when I'm not looking...
- 02:05:10 [AaronSw-WWW2002]
- He was really excited about your crypto module
- 02:05:27 [sbp]
- :-)
- 02:05:41 [eikeon]
- How is Hawaii?
- 02:06:17 [AaronSw-WWW2002]
- It's great.... the sun is finally out and getting to meet lots of people.
- 02:06:25 [AaronSw-WWW2002]
- Just met mags, she's watching the rdf intro
- 02:07:07 [eikeon]
- * eikeon wishes he was at the conference :(
- 02:07:27 [sbp]
- * sbp too
- 02:07:35 [AaronSw-WWW2002]
- I just wish my computer was working...
- 02:07:40 [sbp]
- heh
- 02:08:22 [AaronSw-WWW2002]
- on the other hand, it's not like htere's a whole lot happening
- 02:08:37 [AaronSw-WWW2002]
- The grid computing stuff seems pretty wishywashy...
- 02:09:07 [eikeon]
- There would be more going on if we where there... we all could be talking live instead of over irc ;)
- 02:09:13 [AaronSw-WWW2002]
- heh
- 02:09:19 [sbp]
- :-)
- 02:09:21 [AaronSw-WWW2002]
- even the people there are talking over irc. see #www2002
- 02:09:27 [eikeon]
- lol
- 02:09:39 [AaronSw-WWW2002]
- it's great. we chat with the panelists while they're talking and they get so distracted they lose their train of thought
- 02:10:11 [sbp]
- heh, heh
- 02:10:17 [sbp]
- * sbp makes another big API change
- 02:10:59 [sbp]
- Hmm... 5 seconds slower
- 02:11:29 [eikeon]
- and memory?
- 02:11:49 [AaronSw-WWW2002]
- "grid will swallow the semantic web" "no, semantic web will swallow grid" "no, we'll put them together to get semantic grid, which will swallow both!"
- 02:13:09 [sbp]
- like those two snakes
- 02:14:12 [AaronSw-WWW2002]
- The grid suffers from we're-going-to-do-everything-and-save-the-world-itis.
- 02:14:29 [sbp]
- O.K., { p: { s: [o] } } for the dictionary structure, I've pretty much decided
- 02:14:58 [sbp]
- what, you mean like the SW, WWW, and plesh?
- 02:15:12 [AaronSw-WWW2002]
- :-)
- 02:15:20 [sbp]
- I'd call that a feature, rather than an itis :-)
- 02:15:26 [AaronSw-WWW2002]
- Even worse. (Yes, that's *really, really, bad*.)
- 02:15:56 [sbp]
- well, the WWW did pretty well
- 02:16:24 [AaronSw-WWW2002]
- But it didn't want to do everything. It was just for sharing a few science papers
- 02:16:45 [sbp]
- so why did Tim call it the "World Wide Web", then?
- 02:16:51 [sbp]
- why not just "CERNWeb"?
- 02:17:04 [AaronSw-WWW2002]
- because it was sharing science papers with everyone in the world
- 02:17:46 [AaronSw-WWW2002]
- AaronSw-WWW2002 has quit ("in the w3c track")
- 02:17:50 [sbp]
- Hmm... plus the first application was the CERN phone-book, which is hardly a science papery thing
- 02:17:57 [sbp]
- hey, where'd he go?
- 02:18:09 [sbp]
- don't walk away from me when I'm arguing at you! :-)
- 02:18:16 [eikeon]
- me?
- 02:18:21 [sbp]
- heh
- 02:34:44 [Ash]
- * Ash dance
- 02:35:09 [sbp]
- /me abuse!
- 02:40:05 [sbp]
- * sbp returns with food
- 02:44:18 [Ash]
- * Ash says hi sbp!!
- 02:44:25 [Ash]
- hehe
- 02:44:54 [jillzilla]
- whew. another day without sugar. Excellent.
- 02:45:07 [sbp]
- oh, honey honey
- 02:45:18 [sbp]
- you are my candy girl!
- 02:45:23 [sbp]
- and you've got me lovin' you
- 02:45:26 [sbp]
- [do do do do do do]
- 02:46:05 [sbp]
- exit to your left
- 02:46:15 [eikeon]
- eikeon has left #swhack
- 02:46:20 [sbp]
- bwahaha!
- 02:46:45 [sbp]
- is my singing really that bad? oh well
- 02:46:59 [jillzilla]
- heh
- 02:48:13 [Ash]
- JILLZILLA
- 02:48:23 [Ash]
- * Ash gives jillzilla a slice of baklava
- 02:48:35 [sbp]
- [drum roll] It's teh Ash and Jill show!
- 02:48:39 [sbp]
- [crappy music]
- 02:48:43 [Ash]
- TEH ASH AND JILLE SHOWE@!$!@
- 02:48:45 [Ash]
- YSE!@
- 02:48:54 [Ash]
- * Ash DOES TEH TAPDANEC~!@
- 02:49:01 [jillzilla]
- * jillzilla knows this is only a dream, and she will wake up at any minute.
- 02:49:10 [sbp]
- no chance, bub
- 02:49:36 [sbp]
- pff: where's Morbus when you need him to pinch someone?
- 02:50:27 [jillzilla]
- What, you don't have fingers?
- 02:50:45 [Ash]
- hehe
- 02:50:46 [sbp]
- I have more sense than to pinch a girl
- 02:51:11 [jillzilla]
- * jillzilla wields lobster claws.
- 02:51:16 [sbp]
- Morbus, OTOH...
- 02:51:23 [jillzilla]
- * jillzilla chases sbp...*snap* *SNAP*
- 02:51:40 [sbp]
- hey, don't get snappy with me
- 02:51:44 [Morbus]
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- 02:51:48 [sbp]
- argh!
- 02:51:56 [jillzilla]
- * jillzilla closes in on sbp...
- 02:52:00 [sbp]
- wow, that really is him, too
- 02:52:03 [jillzilla]
- whoa.
- 02:52:16 [jillzilla]
- * jillzilla backs away from sbp, unnerved.
- 02:52:30 [sbp]
- it's like he's come to protect me
- 02:52:40 [jillzilla]
- yes, it seems that way.
- 02:52:44 [jillzilla]
- he's very quiet, though.
- 02:52:46 [sbp]
- as if uttering the very name has summoned him
- 02:53:03 [jillzilla]
- you weren't standing in a pentagram when you typed that, were you?
- 02:53:04 [sbp]
- he's probably waiting for an awkward hush before he delivers his creepy address
- 02:53:12 [sbp]
- heh
- 02:53:23 [Morbus]
- heh, uh...
- 02:53:34 [Morbus]
- logster, where am I?
- 02:53:38 [Morbus]
- See http://blogspace.com/swhack/chatlogs/2002-05-09#T02-53-34
- 02:53:40 [Ash]
- haha
- 02:53:45 [sbp]
- what a fecking let down
- 02:53:53 [jillzilla]
- bah.
- 02:54:06 [Morbus]
- hmm?
- 02:54:22 [Morbus]
- bwahaahahahah: pff: where's Morbus when you need him to pinch someone?
- 02:54:24 [Morbus]
- man, that's funny.
- 02:55:01 [Morbus]
- i've been tweaking gamegrene like a champ today.
- 02:55:14 [Morbus]
- adding javbascript trickery, making the pages smaller by only showing the latest comments, etc.
- 02:55:19 [sbp]
- nobody's business?
- 02:55:45 [Morbus]
- hmm?
- 02:56:10 [sbp]
- tweaking like nobody's business
- 02:57:10 [Morbus]
- well, go check out a comm... here, check this out:http://www.gamegrene.com/rants/anarchy_offline.shtml
- 02:57:27 [Morbus]
- i got me alternating color boxes due to js trickery, and a popup for "show all comments"
- 02:58:08 [Ash]
- heh heh
- 02:58:38 [Morbus]
- heh, heh. anil dashes, i get it.
- 02:58:48 [Ash]
- ha ha
- 02:58:58 [Morbus]
- wow. someone understood.
- 02:59:04 [Morbus]
- * Morbus ^5's Ash.
- 03:00:09 [sbp]
- to anyone reading the logs in 50 years time: don't worry: they have their own little world
- 03:00:19 [redmonk]
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- 03:00:22 [sbp]
- rm!"
- 03:00:27 [Morbus]
- mooOnk!
- 03:00:28 [jillzilla]
- rm -f!
- 03:01:09 [sbp]
- [a tremendous atmosphere of anticipation fills the room]
- 03:01:47 [Morbus]
- re: ph.ph.cox .... "i'm a fa... fa... ... I like cocks!"
- 03:02:30 [sbp]
- Daphne: I'm glad to be out of that black one. I had to take me undies off just to get the zipper up
- 03:02:52 [sbp]
- Niles: [drops his glass which breaks into a million pieces]
- 03:03:14 [Morbus]
- ?
- 03:04:05 [Morbus]
- what's that from?
- 03:04:10 [sbp]
- Frasier
- 03:04:16 [Morbus]
- aaahHh.
- 03:04:19 [Morbus]
- i knew the names sounded familar
- 03:04:21 [sbp]
- it's just one that I saw this evening
- 03:05:09 [jillzilla]
- * jillzilla realizes abruptly that Adam Duritz is quite annoying.
- 03:05:41 [redmonk]
- jill: just now?
- 03:05:46 [jillzilla]
- Yeah.
- 03:06:05 [jillzilla]
- I promised a guitarist I know that I would learn to sing Long December, so we could perform it together.
- 03:06:11 [jillzilla]
- So I'm listening to it now.
- 03:06:20 [sbp]
- you can sing?
- 03:06:26 [jillzilla]
- Not only does he have an annoying voice, but he sings in a crappy range for me.
- 03:06:35 [jillzilla]
- Yeah, I can sing a bit. I'm getting good reviews at work.
- 03:06:59 [sbp]
- it's always so difficult to find good singers...
- 03:08:01 [jillzilla]
- Is it really? I thought everyone could sing.
- 03:08:11 [jillzilla]
- I'm learning some Radiohead, too.
- 03:08:36 [jillzilla]
- That's delicious. I don't sound like Thom Yorke or whatever his name is, but I'm trying to evoke some of the ethereal quality he brings to a song.
- 03:09:05 [Morbus]
- Morbus has quit ("http://www.disobey.com/")
- 03:09:21 [jillzilla]
- It's incredible to sing with a guitarist.
- 03:09:31 [jillzilla]
- I'd never done it until February or so.
- 03:10:09 [sbp]
- there was a big shortage of singers when lots of bands started forming in my area
- 03:10:15 [jillzilla]
- Ah.
- 03:10:22 [jillzilla]
- Really...how odd.
- 03:10:29 [www2002]
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- 03:10:49 [jillzilla]
- Oh, look, it's AaronSw-FOO-BAR!
- 03:10:51 [sbp]
- I certainly don't think that everyone can sing. most people are truly awful
- 03:10:54 [sbp]
- ASW!
- 03:11:10 [jillzilla]
- Well, perhaps I'll sing for you -- it might not change your opinion. :-)
- 03:11:16 [sbp]
- heh
- 03:11:17 [syn|ack]
- but everyone thinks they can sing?
- 03:11:17 [www2002]
- Howdy
- 03:11:34 [syn|ack]
- howdy doo
- 03:11:55 [jillzilla]
- hey, synack, www2002.
- 03:12:30 [syn|ack]
- * syn|ack waves to jillzilla
- 03:12:53 [www2002]
- www2002 is now known as AaronSw-WWW2002
- 03:17:53 [Ash]
- heh
- 03:22:45 [AaronSw-WWW2002]
- * AaronSw-WWW2002 looks at iBook specs...
- 03:23:03 [AaronSw-WWW2002]
- $1799 vs. $2500... alrighty
- 03:26:27 [redmonk]
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- 03:27:36 [AaronSw-WWW2002]
- Ooh, they even have one at the local CompUSA... So tempting
- 03:27:48 [AaronSw-WWW2002]
- store is open until 9
- 03:28:02 [sbp]
- .AaronSw time HST
- 03:30:26 [AaronSw-WWW2002]
- ugh. this looks rather difficult
- 03:30:31 [AaronSw-WWW2002]
- the time is 5:30 PM
- 03:30:36 [AaronSw-WWW2002]
- this = http://homepage.mac.com/cybergreg/Personal.html
- 03:31:11 [xena]
- error: [Errno socket error] (110, 'Connection timed out')
- 03:31:59 [AaronSw-WWW2002]
- Hm, hm, hm
- 03:33:42 [AaronSw-WWW2002]
- Well, someone replaced the drive with the smaller ibook
- 03:35:16 [AaronSw-WWW2002]
- I think I'll buy it.
- 03:35:30 [AaronSw-WWW2002]
- laters.
- 03:35:37 [sbp]
- c'ya
- 03:35:49 [AaronSw-WWW2002]
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- 03:37:51 [jeremiah]
- hello
- 03:38:29 [sbp]
- Hi there
- 03:46:50 [walloper]
- <lilo> Looks like one remaining problem with services, I'll see if I can patch that as well
- 03:47:11 [jeremiah]
- hi sbp
- 04:02:04 [jeremiah]
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- 04:02:45 [walloper]
- <lilo> Expect a few more services re-ups while we finish resolving this problem
- 04:03:09 [walloper]
- <lilo> Apologies for the inconvenience
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- 04:08:28 [sbp]
- argh!
- 04:09:38 [sbp]
- dunno why the bots have to be voised anyway...
- 04:09:43 [sbp]
- s/voised/voiced/
- 04:10:46 [sbp]
- Who's Steve Zilles?
- 04:11:25 [sbp]
- oh, you *must* be kidding!
- 04:11:42 [sbp]
- * sbp hopes that the logs are picking this up
- 04:12:14 [sbp]
- ah, no, they're not. people will wonder what I'm shouting at
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- 04:16:27 [jillzilla]
- * jillzilla notes for the logs taht sbp is shouting at the swarm of bees that have attacked him.
- 04:16:41 [sbp]
- spelling bees, no doubt
- 04:16:53 [sbp]
- no *doubt*! hello?! DMY
- 04:17:20 [jillzilla]
- I think grammar bees. s/have/has/
- 04:18:22 [sbp]
- these silly people with their neat punctuation, precise grammar, and two spaces between sentences...
- 04:18:59 [Ash]
- sadsfdf
- 04:20:46 [sbp]
- say, Jill, ... oh, never mind
- 04:20:47 [sbp]
- Gotta run
- 04:21:10 [jillzilla]
- * jillzilla has to know!
- 04:21:11 [jillzilla]
- aigh!
- 04:21:18 [jillzilla]
- * jillzilla explodes.
- 04:34:56 [walloper]
- <lilo> Still looking at that bug
- 04:39:45 [walloper]
- <lilo> There will be some restarts I believe
- 04:39:57 [Ash]
- hi jillzilla!
- 04:52:25 [Ash]
- cool
- 04:52:30 [Ash]
- er, woah
- 04:52:34 [Ash]
- * Ash kicks epic
- 04:52:43 [jillzilla]
- * jillzilla points at ash and giggles.
- 05:00:29 [Ash]
- hehe
- 05:05:46 [lilo]
- [GlobalNotice] Hi all. May have an alternate box to place services on, we'll leave it down until the new box is set up.
- 05:23:20 [lilo]
- [GlobalNotice] Hi all. To recap, services are down while we attempt to locate an appropriate server on which to run them. Please bear with us.
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- 06:31:18 [walloper]
- <lilo> Shoehorning files atm in preparation to testing services on a temporary host. Please bear with us.
- 06:49:44 [lilo]
- [GlobalNotice] Services has been restored on a server where we think it will be relatively stable. Please bear with us.
- 06:50:30 [lilo]
- [GlobalNotice] We've restored to a backup which is approximately 12 hours old, according to my imperfect and somewhat tired recollection.
- 06:50:49 [lilo]
- [GlobalNotice] Thanks for your patience and understanding, and thank you for using OPN!
- 07:18:22 [s|a]
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- 07:18:33 [s|a]
- hello
- 07:26:27 [jillzilla]
- hey, synack.
- 08:04:55 [jillzilla]
- * jillzilla heads home. Rockin' day's work.
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- 11:47:55 [pixel]
- hi all.
- 11:48:03 [pixel]
- (of course, there's probably no one here)
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- 12:31:35 [lilo]
- [GlobalNotice] Hi all. Yesterday and earlier today OPN time (UTC) we experienced a number of problems with services due to its being moved to an uncustomary OS. The move was needed since the box it had been running on was being taken out of service. Several hours of changes from yesterday will be missing from the services databases.
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- 12:32:13 [lilo]
- [GlobalNotice] Services should be relatively stable today. Please let us know if you're experiencing any problems and we'll attempt to resolve them. Thank you.
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- 12:35:29 [pixel]
- in or out! You're letting the air conditioning out!
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- 12:51:17 [pixel]
- yo.
- 13:26:47 [Ash]
- YO
- 13:26:49 [Ash]
- YO
- 14:23:15 [sbp]
- * sbp waves
- 14:23:17 [redmonk]
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- 14:23:22 [sbp]
- Hi rm
- 14:23:39 [redmonk]
- yo yo yo
- 14:34:00 [redmonk]
- sup all
- 14:35:45 [sbp]
- I think there's only me here :-)
- 14:35:50 [sbp]
- and I'm hacking on eep3 as usual
- 14:35:54 [redmonk]
- heh
- 14:35:56 [redmonk]
- cool
- 14:35:58 [sbp]
- ooh, new person: kenzo75
- 14:35:59 [redmonk]
- how's that going?
- 14:36:11 [redmonk]
- greetings kenzo75
- 14:36:14 [sbp]
- pretty well, actually... just tidying it up now
- 14:36:19 [redmonk]
- welcome to the Swhack collective
- 14:36:24 [sbp]
- heh, heh
- 14:36:35 [redmonk]
- you will be assimilated
- 14:37:08 [kenzo75]
- hello !
- 14:37:44 [sbp]
- Hi there. you're the first speaking new-person we've had on here for months
- 14:38:02 [kenzo75]
- really??
- 14:38:05 [kenzo75]
- great !!
- 14:38:23 [sbp]
- yep. for some reason, people come in, but they just sit here and say nothing
- 14:38:46 [redmonk]
- intimidated by our incredible charisma, no doubt
- 14:38:53 [sbp]
- heh, heh
- 14:39:45 [kenzo75]
- it's understandable !! ;-)
- 14:40:07 [redmonk]
- heh, weo got a smart alec here, sbp. hhehe
- 14:41:01 [sbp]
- at least he can type. and we know he's not xoot because he hasn't spewed a thousand mac related URIs into the channel yet
- 14:41:14 [sbp]
- so that's two sbppoints already
- 14:41:18 [kenzo75]
- I knew this channel by going on Aaron's web site
- 14:41:34 [sbp]
- ah, cool. So you'll know that this channel is logged, then?
- 14:41:39 [redmonk]
- ah! a third sbp opint no doubt
- 14:41:43 [redmonk]
- er, point
- 14:41:45 [kenzo75]
- yes
- 14:41:48 [sbp]
- if we want to say stuff off-log, we prefix it with "# "
- 14:42:11 [kenzo75]
- :)) ok !!
- 14:42:23 [sbp]
- third point: didn't xoot find his way here through Aaron's website? Hmm...
- 14:42:34 [Ash]
- hey macs suck
- 14:42:35 [Ash]
- *g*
- 14:42:47 [redmonk]
- respect the #!
- 14:42:48 [sbp]
- heh, heh
- 14:42:51 [Ash]
- kenzo75, do you have any tree files?
- 14:42:58 [Ash]
- * Ash remembers neo85...
- 14:43:12 [redmonk]
- be nice, ASH
- 14:43:21 [kenzo75]
- what is tree files?
- 14:43:22 [sbp]
- here's the swhack FAQ http://infomesh.net/2002/swhackfaq/
- 14:43:33 [sbp]
- recently updated and then blown into a million pieces!
- 14:44:05 [sbp]
- tree files: it's TEH ASHISM
- 14:44:23 [Ash]
- Hee hee.
- 14:44:36 [Ash]
- sbp: Oh, did you add tree files to the swhackfaq?
- 14:44:43 [Ash]
- :-)
- 14:44:49 [sbp]
- there used to be something in the FAQ about tree files, but now we just make people guess. it's more hillar^H^H^H^H^H^Hfun^H^H^Hinteresting that way
- 14:44:56 [Ash]
- ah good!
- 14:44:58 [kenzo75]
- nop sorry
- 14:44:59 [Ash]
- hehe
- 14:45:05 [Ash]
- .google neo85 tree files
- 14:45:17 [Ash]
- * Ash kicks xena
- 14:45:44 [sbp]
- neo85 tree files: http://blogspace.com/swhack/chatlogs/2002-04-05.txt
- 14:45:55 [sbp]
- it actually is the top result now
- 14:45:57 [Ash]
- wow, sbp has new, bot-like features!
- 14:45:59 [Ash]
- Oh really?
- 14:46:00 [Ash]
- hahaha
- 14:46:08 [Ash]
- It wasn't the top result before?
- 14:46:15 [Ash]
- Last time I searched for it, I got the right page.
- 14:46:20 [sbp]
- and Google comes up with "<Ash> yeah, just delete all the trees 16:13:11 <neo85> DIDNT SEE ANY .TREE FILES"
- 14:46:36 [sbp]
- well, Google is traditionally slow in archiving the swhack logs
- 14:46:51 [Ash]
- We should talk to jill about that.
- 14:46:57 [Ash]
- They should be archived nightly!
- 14:47:00 [sbp]
- heh, yeah
- 14:49:12 [redmonk]
- redmonk has changed the topic to: ignored by Google nightly since 2001
- 14:49:27 [redmonk]
- redmonk has changed the topic to: Swhack, ignored by Google nightly since 2001
- 14:50:35 [sbp]
- oh man, I really do love that log
- 14:50:36 [sbp]
- [[[
- 14:50:36 [sbp]
- 15:59:36 <Ash> it can also do grabs
- 14:50:36 [sbp]
- 15:59:43 <Ash> if you are going to save the page
- 14:50:36 [sbp]
- 15:59:51 <Morbus> right.
- 14:50:36 [sbp]
- 15:59:52 <Ash> GRABS HTTP://APACHE.COM/INDEX.HTMAL
- 14:50:37 [sbp]
- 15:59:59 <neo85> i see
- 14:50:39 [sbp]
- ]]]
- 14:50:46 [Morbus]
- heh, heh.
- 14:50:54 [Morbus]
- meemories!
- 14:51:07 [sbp]
- lol @ the topic, rm
- 14:51:33 [redmonk]
- those were the days - tormenting clueless neo
- 14:51:35 [kenzo75]
- do you know something about TechLens ?
- 14:51:49 [redmonk]
- dangerous question here, Kenzo... ;-)
- 14:52:02 [redmonk]
- if you don't provide context, we'll make one up for you
- 14:52:06 [redmonk]
- muahahaha
- 14:52:13 [sbp]
- oh, man:-
- 14:52:16 [sbp]
- 16:04:43 <sbp> neo: what OS do you run? No, let me guess, Windows...
- 14:52:16 [sbp]
- 16:04:50 <neo85> YEAH
- 14:52:30 [sbp]
- sorry kenzo, we're just reminiscing
- 14:53:08 [kenzo75]
- why dangerous?
- 14:53:18 [sbp]
- heh, the fifth result for "TechLens" on Google is the swhack chatlogs
- 14:53:24 [redmonk]
- you may not get the answer you were... expecting
- 14:53:26 [kenzo75]
- yes !!!!
- 14:53:30 [sbp]
- every damn search that I do brings up the swhack chatlogs!
- 14:53:49 [Morbus]
- kenzo75: is that how you got here?
- 14:53:49 [redmonk]
- (well, stop prefixing them with site:swhack)
- 14:53:50 [Morbus]
- via a search?
- 14:53:58 [kenzo75]
- exactly the swhack chatlogs !
- 14:54:16 [Morbus]
- heh, heh.
- 14:54:22 [kenzo75]
- yes
- 14:54:39 [kenzo75]
- :-)
- 14:54:45 [sbp]
- funny, I didn't come across this when Aaron chumped it
- 14:54:47 [sbp]
- http://techlens.cs.umn.edu/techlens/
- 14:54:50 [Morbus]
- swhack: abadon hope all ye who enter here
- 14:54:55 [redmonk]
- see, now we have to crawl the logs trying to figure out why we were talking about it in the first place ;-)
- 14:54:56 [Morbus]
- important words, dear kenzo75 ;)
- 14:55:32 [kenzo75]
- already done redmonk ;-)
- 14:56:05 [redmonk]
- heh
- 14:56:05 [sbp]
- oh, it was one of Aaron's big chump-a-thons
- 14:56:18 [redmonk]
- ah
- 14:56:22 [kenzo75]
- but Aaron said something interesting
- 14:56:36 [sbp]
- did he?! when? I must have missed that
- 14:56:36 [kenzo75]
- " A new project, TechLens, is rumored to be getting off the ground in the next few weeks. It's not well-defined, but it is large. We'll see if size does, in fact, matter. "
- 14:56:38 [Morbus]
- no, that isn't possible.
- 14:56:46 [Morbus]
- oh, that?
- 14:56:49 [Morbus]
- that wasn't important.
- 14:56:56 [Morbus]
- he was trying to get back at us for calling him a small dick.
- 14:57:14 [redmonk]
- that's what I mean kenzo ;-)
- 14:57:20 [sbp]
- actually, Dan Cosley said that
- 14:57:34 [Morbus]
- yeah, him too.
- 14:57:44 [Morbus]
- hey, kenzo75?
- 14:57:54 [kenzo75]
- yes?
- 14:57:58 [Morbus]
- i heard you have a small dick.'
- 14:58:22 [redmonk]
- oh brother
- 14:58:27 [redmonk]
- ignore him, Kenzo
- 14:58:31 [redmonk]
- somtimes he goes away
- 14:58:41 [sbp]
- to quote the faq...
- 14:58:42 [Morbus]
- but i always come back, the very next morning.
- 14:58:46 [redmonk]
- * redmonk loads railgun
- 14:58:49 [Morbus]
- oh yes, I always come back, the very next morning
- 14:58:53 [redmonk]
- *fwang*
- 14:58:57 [redmonk]
- *splutch*
- 14:58:59 [sbp]
- "Should one of the members of the channel start virtually humping your leg, do not be alarmed. This is simply Morbus. To get him to retreat, it is usually a simple matter of typing "/nick Jack/Bob/Fred", and then pretending to be male. If this fails, consult the Morbus Manual, page 365, "Calming Your Morbus Iff (TM) in case of Overstimulation"."
- 14:58:59 [Morbus]
- * Morbus respawns.
- 14:59:14 [Morbus]
- * Morbus waves.
- 14:59:21 [redmonk]
- nively done morb
- 14:59:24 [redmonk]
- er,
- 14:59:25 [redmonk]
- nicely
- 14:59:27 [sbp]
- it's all in the FAQ! well, most of it
- 14:59:55 [redmonk]
- calming, railgunning, it's all the same
- 15:00:42 [kenzo75]
- I don't think that you know me or that one of your close relations know me
- 15:01:10 [Morbus]
- i don't think I want to know you.
- 15:01:20 [Morbus]
- i don't even know the other 74 yet.
- 15:01:27 [redmonk]
- heh
- 15:01:36 [sbp]
- heh
- 15:01:40 [kenzo75]
- yes morbus !
- 15:01:55 [Morbus]
- ooOh, say that a little slower next time, eh?
- 15:01:57 [Morbus]
- * Morbus winks at kenzo75.
- 15:02:03 [sbp]
- dinkyishness!
- 15:02:11 [redmonk]
- heh
- 15:02:34 [sbp]
- Hmm... I read that as "say that in the shower next time", first off
- 15:02:39 [kenzo75]
- who is morbus ?
- 15:02:50 [redmonk]
- Kenzo, if he starts sidling your way, just grab a broom and whack him
- 15:02:52 [redmonk]
- heh
- 15:02:53 [sbp]
- read the manual
- 15:02:59 [kenzo75]
- ok
- 15:04:06 [kenzo75]
- who knows what is TechLens....
- 15:04:26 [Morbus]
- * Morbus sheepishly raises his hand.
- 15:04:27 [sbp]
- nope. I don't think any of us care about anything like that, except for Aaron
- 15:04:56 [sbp]
- * sbp smacks it
- 15:05:11 [Morbus]
- * Morbus opens his cavernous max.
- 15:05:14 [Morbus]
- er, maw, rather.
- 15:05:27 [sbp]
- Cavernous Max! that could be a cartoon
- 15:06:04 [kenzo75]
- yes !!
- 15:08:39 [sbp]
- * sbp listens to Goose, JPJ
- 15:09:28 [Morbus]
- so, kenzo75, tell me: what size panty do you wear?
- 15:09:38 [redmonk]
- * redmonk listens to Smack My Bitch Up, prodigy
- 15:09:43 [Morbus]
- * Morbus has that video.
- 15:09:51 [kenzo75]
- :)
- 15:09:54 [redmonk]
- * redmonk is not surprised
- 15:09:59 [Morbus]
- heh, heh.
- 15:10:23 [kenzo75]
- strange questions
- 15:10:43 [kenzo75]
- i don't know where do u come from !
- 15:10:47 [kenzo75]
- ehh man !
- 15:10:50 [Morbus]
- for you, perhaps. they're my way of life.
- 15:11:04 [Morbus]
- you did a search for techlens, do a search for Morbus.
- 15:11:08 [Morbus]
- google will show you the way.
- 15:11:42 [sbp]
- it's a pretty scary way. he is your scary godmother
- 15:11:58 [kenzo75]
- yes i shall think of it
- 15:12:10 [sbp]
- ooh, we need a simile: as swhackish as...
- 15:12:20 [sbp]
- what is the epitome of swhackishness?
- 15:12:37 [Morbus]
- children bath toys that look like anal plugs!
- 15:12:51 [Morbus]
- rubber duckies that do more than squeak!
- 15:13:01 [Morbus]
- choo choo trains that blow more than smoke!
- 15:13:03 [deltab]
- sbp: 'possible'
- 15:13:12 [Morbus]
- heh.
- 15:13:14 [sbp]
- heh, heh
- 15:13:38 [sbp]
- I've settled upon x is as swhackish as rubber duckies that do more than squeak!
- 15:14:32 [sbp]
- * sbp hammers his quote marks button
- 15:14:37 [redmonk]
- redmonk has changed the topic to: as swhackish as rubber duckies that do more than squeak!
- 15:14:44 [Morbus]
- yay!
- 15:14:44 [sbp]
- heh, heh
- 15:16:26 [walloper]
- <lilo> Thanks again to Michael Loftis for his use of zelazny.openprojects.net, a hidden hub, which we're just shutting down now for the final time. It's been extremely helpful to the network and he deserves all our thanks.
- 15:21:44 [redmonk]
- thanks!
- 15:22:26 [sbp]
- heh
- 15:36:31 [Ash]
- HEH
- 15:36:44 [Ash]
- I didn't see that thanks after gcc delinked niven
- 15:36:44 [Ash]
- hahaha
- 15:41:44 [sbp]
- heh
- 15:43:47 [redmonk]
- redmonk has quit (Remote closed the connection)
- 15:57:19 [eikeon]
- eikeon (~Daniel@jungle.ne.client2.attbi.com) has joined #swhack
- 16:14:06 [sbp]
- oh man, this is mage-freaky. two guys with almost exactly the same nickname are having an argument in another channel
- 16:14:26 [sbp]
- xxx_ says that he's been using xxx as a nick for 9 years, and the other guy is said "whatever"
- 16:14:28 [sbp]
- bizzare
- 16:15:40 [rik]
- much like dtm and dnm?
- 16:15:46 [rik]
- heh. the worst has #brits a whiole back
- 16:15:58 [rik]
- two people used drone_\d{4} as their nick
- 16:16:06 [rik]
- as star trek references
- 16:16:09 [sbp]
- heh!
- 16:16:15 [rik]
- then about 6 others adopted it, for a laugh...
- 16:16:25 [rik]
- * rik notes it broke some people's brains.
- 16:17:00 [sbp]
- heh, heh
- 16:21:16 [redmonk]
- redmonk (~steve@63.149.73.20) has joined #swhack
- 16:21:52 [redmonk]
- yo
- 16:28:15 [sbp]
- hola
- 16:28:25 [sbp]
- * sbp continues to hack on eep3
- 16:32:26 [Morbus]
- Morbus has quit ("http://www.disobey.com/")
- 16:57:27 [sbp]
- Gotta run
- 17:31:50 [sbp]
- * sbp waves
- 17:33:00 [drone_\d{4}]
- drone_\d{4} (sbp@m912-mp1-cvx3b.pop.ntl.com) has joined #swhack
- 17:33:38 [drone_\d{4}]
- drone_\d{4} is now known as drone_\d{4}_
- 17:33:55 [drone_\d{4}_]
- drone_\d{4}_ is now known as drone_\d{5}
- 17:34:01 [drone_\d{5}]
- drone_\d{5} has quit (Client Quit)
- 17:34:10 [sbp]
- it seems that that nick is not as popular as it once was
- 18:05:32 [redmonk]
- heh
- 18:08:53 [redmonk]
- http://radio.userland.com/multiAuthorWeblogTool
- 18:08:58 [redmonk]
- UserLands hacks it up again
- 18:09:02 [redmonk]
- er, Userland
- 18:21:44 [redmonk]
- wow.
- 18:21:54 [redmonk]
- http://www.redmonk.net/2002/05/09#item1215
- 18:49:43 [Morbus]
- Morbus (~morbus@morbus.totalnetnh.net) has joined #swhack
- 18:50:39 [Morbus]
- whee. just contributed another patch to MT.
- 18:50:41 [Morbus]
- dunno if he'll use it or not.
- 18:50:43 [Morbus]
- http://www.movabletype.org/support/ib3/ikonboard.cgi?s=3cdabd2e5692ffff;act=ST;f=8;t=310
- 19:08:28 [jillium]
- * jillium appears.
- 19:08:32 [jillium]
- * jillium waves.
- 19:08:32 [Morbus]
- jillium!
- 19:08:39 [jillium]
- I just hired people to move me! Woo!
- 19:08:43 [jillium]
- Morbus!
- 19:09:13 [Morbus]
- where ay moving to?
- 19:09:21 [jillium]
- About two miles down the road.
- 19:09:30 [Morbus]
- why??
- 19:09:33 [jillium]
- Into a place where I hope to stay for a few years.
- 19:09:52 [jillium]
- I just moved in December, and one of my housemates here ignored me for 3-4 months. Didn't say a word to me unless I spoke to him first.
- 19:10:13 [jillium]
- And the place opened up in a house I lived in a while ago, where I know and like the people, where there is more space, and where it is cheaper.
- 19:10:21 [jillium]
- Significantly cheaper.
- 19:10:41 [sbp]
- * sbp waves
- 19:10:44 [jillium]
- sbp!
- 19:10:50 [jillium]
- I'm really moving! yay!
- 19:10:59 [sbp]
- excellent
- 19:11:04 [pixel]
- jillium!
- 19:11:12 [jillium]
- hi, pixel!
- 19:12:24 [jillium]
- * jillium calculates that it will take 7 months for the decreased rent to pay for moving expenses and the two weeks of paying rent in both places.
- 19:12:55 [sbp]
- after 7 months it'll pay for itself!
- 19:13:01 [jillium]
- yes!
- 19:13:16 [jillium]
- I'm hoping it will pay for itself in increased sanity levels before then.
- 19:19:49 [Seth]
- Seth (~seth@12-230-243-179.client.attbi.com) has joined #swhack
- 19:21:40 [pixel]
- $ I paid over $250 for my maxtor 60GB 2 years ago.
- 19:21:47 [sbp]
- [OLM]
- 19:22:15 [Morbus]
- $ I need a new Mac drive for my mp3s.
- 19:22:23 [Morbus]
- $ I've only got a 20gig right now.
- 19:22:29 [pixel]
- macs still use SCSI, right?
- 19:22:32 [Morbus]
- i dunno.
- 19:22:38 [jillium]
- $ what is $? OLMs about money?
- 19:22:52 [pixel]
- $ is an accidental #
- 19:23:00 [jillium]
- $ ah, so onlog, but cute.
- 19:23:02 [sbp]
- Homer: The alighty ollar? Oh, heh, heh, heh, I get it!
- 19:23:28 [sbp]
- oh, they had "Brother Can You Spare Two Dimes?" today
- 19:23:28 [jillium]
- * jillium notes that sbp's Mr Burns imitation is pretty good.
- 19:23:41 [sbp]
- Herb: Homer, can you stop thinking about your butt?
- 19:23:46 [sbp]
- Homer: I'll try but I can't...
- 19:23:53 [sbp]
- I do a Mr. Murns imitation?
- 19:23:58 [sbp]
- s/Mu/Bu/
- 19:24:01 [jillium]
- You did on .wav.
- 19:24:03 [pixel]
- morb - what mac do you have?
- 19:24:12 [sbp]
- that was Homer doing Mr. Burns
- 19:24:17 [jillium]
- Or at least SOMEONE did, and I have it saves as sbp.wav.
- 19:24:20 [Morbus]
- sigh, i'm having a brain cramp.
- 19:24:26 [Morbus]
- what's the command to unarc a tar.gz?
- 19:24:29 [Morbus]
- pixel: dual 400.
- 19:24:33 [Morbus]
- g4.
- 19:24:34 [jillium]
- unarc?
- 19:24:38 [jillium]
- tar zxfp
- 19:24:38 [Morbus]
- the gzip one ;)
- 19:24:40 [Morbus]
- that's it.
- 19:24:41 [Morbus]
- thanks.
- 19:24:43 [jillium]
- np
- 19:25:22 [pixel]
- morb - model #?
- 19:25:35 [Morbus]
- uh... g4 :)
- 19:25:36 [Morbus]
- i dunno.
- 19:25:48 [pixel]
- poermac g4?
- 19:25:54 [pixel]
- opwermac g4, rather.
- 19:25:59 [pixel]
- argh. I can't type.
- 19:26:22 [Morbus]
- yah.
- 19:26:49 [sbp]
- I haven't said anything for a while
- 19:27:47 [pixel]
- you can use wither EIDE ATA drives, or Ultra SCSI. so the $65 Quantum from above would work in your powermac.
- 19:28:31 [Morbus]
- mMMMm.
- 19:28:34 [Morbus]
- order me one.
- 19:28:38 [pixel]
- hehe
- 19:28:39 [Morbus]
- no, order me three!
- 19:28:41 [Morbus]
- i'll hotswap.
- 19:28:44 [Morbus]
- <g>
- 19:29:03 [sbp]
- what would you do with 180GB? you could have an infoorgy
- 19:29:28 [pixel]
- order this: Seagate Barracuda 180, 181.55 GB, Ultra160 Wide SCSI. 7200 RPM, 6.9 ms seek. $1449.00
- 19:29:44 [Morbus]
- mMMMM.
- 19:29:52 [Morbus]
- * Morbus orders two... just in case.
- 19:29:57 [pixel]
- ooh! time to go! bye all.
- 19:30:02 [sbp]
- c'ya
- 19:30:03 [jillium]
- later!
- 19:30:05 [Morbus]
- man, its that late?
- 19:30:06 [Morbus]
- crap.
- 19:30:16 [sbp]
- .time in various time zones
- 19:30:23 [jillium]
- * jillium laughs.
- 19:30:25 [Morbus]
- 3:30.
- 19:30:33 [sbp]
- 20:30 BST
- 19:30:54 [Seth]
- * Seth waves ... though of day: a got is a agent, a agent is a bot
- 19:31:09 [Seth]
- s/got/bot
- 19:33:37 [Morbus]
- whoo.
- 19:33:41 [Morbus]
- my MT patch was accepted.
- 19:33:51 [sbp]
- which one was that?
- 19:33:56 [pixel]
- pixel has quit ("http://www.perceive.net/")
- 19:33:59 [Morbus]
- http://www.movabletype.org/support/ib3/ikonboard.cgi?act=ST;f=8;t=310
- 19:34:58 [sbp]
- cool
- 19:37:01 [sbp]
- lol!
- 19:37:06 [sbp]
- "I still reckon rdf is some black art needing Libby and Dan dancing naked round a totem pole!" Dave Pawson, svg-developers list
- 19:37:14 [sbp]
- (via. Jim Ley on #rdfig)
- 19:37:28 [Morbus]
- hehe
- 19:54:10 [sbp]
- The dame said, "your servant"; the dog said "bow-wow"
- 20:23:53 [Ash]
- okay, i feel like i'm gonna die
- 20:23:56 [Ash]
- today sucks ass
- 20:23:58 [davb]
- davb has quit ("ChatZilla 0.8.6 [Mozilla rv:1.0rc1/20020417]")
- 20:24:06 [Ash]
- MORBAS, I didn't know you had the netslaves junk on your site.
- 20:24:10 [Ash]
- er
- 20:24:13 [Ash]
- sorry
- 20:24:13 [Ash]
- heh
- 20:24:14 [Morbus]
- yeah.
- 20:24:22 [Morbus]
- they started on disobey.com
- 20:24:47 [oierw`]
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- oierw` (~mathew@pcp994425pcs.goosck01.sc.comcast.net) has joined #swhack
- 20:53:00 [sbp]
- Stu: "classical architecture is a representation of a rationalist society"
- 20:53:44 [sbp]
- [Stu on a big diatribe about the transition between gothicism and modernism]
- 20:54:40 [jillzilla]
- * jillzilla waves.
- 20:54:48 [sbp]
- Hi there Jill
- 20:54:52 [jillzilla]
- hi, there, sbp.
- 20:55:06 [jillzilla]
- I have this nagging feeling that I had something Iwanted to tell you about, but I can't think of what it might have been.
- 20:55:13 [jillzilla]
- But it's driving me steadily mad.
- 20:55:24 [sbp]
- * sbp accuses Stu of being utilitarian, and he disagrees on form being function
- 20:56:29 [jillzilla]
- I was once asked what the difference was between writing and calligraphy. I explained that calligraphy was a strong focus on the artistic value of the writing.
- 20:56:43 [jillzilla]
- It turned out the woman I was talking with didn't believe there was any such thing as "plain text."
- 20:57:36 [jillzilla]
- At the time, I had just read a chunk of the unicode standard, or a document about it, that emphasized that the goal of unicode was to provide a set of characters in plain text, i.e. not choosing the font or size or other characteristics, just choosing the underlying character.
- 20:57:57 [AaronSw-HI-US]
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- 20:58:01 [AaronSw]
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- 20:58:10 [jillzilla]
- I told her about that. She told me that there was no distinction, that text was its form and and that the form was inseparable from the content.
- 20:58:18 [jillzilla]
- Hence, she said, there was no such thing as "plain text."
- 20:58:23 [AaronSw]
- um, what happened to aaronsw-hi-us?
- 20:58:35 [jillzilla]
- I still don't know how to argue with that. I'm not a postmodernist.
- 20:58:41 [jillzilla]
- <-- AaronSw-HI-US has quit ("Permission revoked - dircproxy 1.0.3")
- 20:58:51 [AaronSw]
- How long ago?
- 20:58:58 [AaronSw]
- What an odd error message.
- 20:59:01 [Seth]
- what you want, what you really really want http://www.speaktomecatalog.com/picture/SIMTVO.jpg
- 20:59:04 [AaronSw]
- Well, I went out and splurged on a new iBook.
- 20:59:16 [jillzilla]
- The error was about two minutes ago.
- 20:59:38 [AaronSw]
- Hm, I must have screwed something up
- 20:59:53 [jillzilla]
- That seems, well, not entirely unlikely.
- 20:59:54 [jillzilla]
- :-)
- 21:05:19 [Ash]
- BAM
- 21:05:28 [Ash]
- I'M ABOUT TO BURN OUT AT WORK!
- 21:05:29 [Ash]
- WOOHOO!
- 21:05:35 [Ash]
- * Ash throws his computer off the roof
- 21:05:35 [sbp]
- * sbp leads Stu out
- 21:05:36 [sbp]
- brb
- 21:12:42 [sbp]
- * sbp returns
- 21:12:46 [sbp]
- heh, as I was leading Stu out, we were having an argument about characters and glyphs
- 21:13:00 [Ash]
- you come back and everything has changed
- 21:13:01 [Ash]
- HA HA
- 21:13:40 [sbp]
- I love it when Stu visits. He came, said "where's your copy of LZIII?". I gave it to him and he said "Bron Y Aur stomp - that is a *brilliant* song!". it sure is :-)
- 21:14:09 [jillzilla]
- sbp: It took me until you were leading him out to realize you were talking about a physically present person.
- 21:14:57 [sbp]
- he was rather passionate about modernism today
- 21:17:45 [Morbus]
- internet achive: closed for maintanence?
- 21:17:46 [Morbus]
- dammit!
- 21:18:23 [sbp]
- Alexa's down? Hmm...
- 21:22:14 [Morbus]
- [[[
- 21:22:14 [Morbus]
- [17:20] <jebus> Morbus: you're a stud. thanks.
- 21:22:14 [Morbus]
- [17:22] <Morbus> yuh yuh yuh
- 21:22:14 [Morbus]
- [17:22] * Morbus chews on some hay.
- 21:22:14 [Morbus]
- [17:22] <Morbus> darn tootin'!
- 21:22:15 [Morbus]
- ]]]
- 21:22:24 [sbp]
- Boy howdy
- 21:22:47 [sbp]
- * sbp listens to SIBLY
- 21:23:47 [Seth]
- sean, did you see our new simpsons product ? http://www.speaktomecatalog.com/picture/SIMTVO.jpg
- 21:24:02 [sbp]
- heh! neat
- 21:24:14 [Seth]
- more comming shortly
- 21:24:41 [AaronSw]
- heh, sbp is voiced again
- 21:24:43 [Morbus]
- jillzilla: you gonna be aorund later?
- 21:24:45 [jillzilla]
- What is the green thing on Homer's left hand?
- 21:24:49 [jillzilla]
- Morbus: Not unlikely.
- 21:24:52 [jillzilla]
- Why?
- 21:25:07 [Morbus]
- cos. I downloaded those tracks last night, but got so busy doing other stuff i never listened to em.
- 21:25:17 [Seth]
- i think its his beer
- 21:25:22 [Ash]
- jillzilla: It's one of those #1 hands, the big foam ones
- 21:25:26 [Ash]
- from baseball games etc
- 21:25:29 [sbp]
- Hmm... Stu was quite keen on Walter Gropius's Dessau Bauhaus. I prefer Van de Velde's, personally, although it is a little less radical
- 21:25:31 [jillzilla]
- oh, dear.
- 21:25:53 [Morbus]
- yes?
- 21:25:57 [Ash]
- jillzilla, i never got to download the tracks!
- 21:25:58 [Ash]
- hehe
- 21:26:07 [sbp]
- heh, I recall Mr. Burns's large hand
- 21:26:14 [Morbus]
- i want mp3s!
- 21:26:24 [Morbus]
- you know, i love feeding my cds into cdnow and amazon to see the recommendations
- 21:26:36 [jillzilla]
- I thought I was going to give them to pixel and everyone else would download them from...him or her.
- 21:26:44 [sbp]
- it
- 21:26:46 [jillzilla]
- * jillzilla realizes she has no idea of pixel's sex.
- 21:26:50 [Morbus]
- him.
- 21:26:52 [sbp]
- he's a him
- 21:26:55 [Morbus]
- perceive.net
- 21:26:56 [Ash]
- she's a him.
- 21:27:01 [sbp]
- it's a what?!
- 21:27:10 [Ash]
- hheehehe
- 21:27:11 [Ash]
- Morbus: URL?
- 21:27:41 [Morbus]
- uh.. url to what?
- 21:27:51 [sbp]
- to perceive.net
- 21:27:59 [Ash]
- hey now
- 21:28:11 [Ash]
- No, I meant a specific url to the tracks we were discussing.
- 21:28:12 [Ash]
- hehe
- 21:28:25 [Ash]
- What's wrong with URL?
- 21:28:29 [jillzilla]
- * jillzilla has forsaken the term url since meeting sbp.
- 21:28:34 [Ash]
- sbp's one of these URI elitists
- 21:28:36 [Ash]
- FIGHT THE POWER
- 21:28:41 [Ash]
- * Ash shoots URI
- 21:29:00 [Morbus]
- heh.
- 21:29:03 [sbp]
- Hmm... I wonder if one can measure the banter-level of text quantitatively by a function including its density?
- 21:29:07 [Morbus]
- sbp just likes to bend spoons. ignore him.
- 21:29:27 [Morbus]
- gimme the last name of the person in the in-joke, and i'll hug you!
- 21:29:40 [Morbus]
- gasp!?
- 21:29:43 [Morbus]
- someone has to know this.
- 21:30:00 [Morbus]
- i'm so distraught.
- 21:30:09 [Morbus]
- .google pictures of uri gellar bending spoons
- 21:30:34 [sbp]
- pictures of uri gellar bending spoons: http://www.mightycompanions.org/cropcircles/page5.html
- 21:31:10 [Ash]
- yeah Morbus, I caught it
- 21:31:16 [Ash]
- i was just away on another screen
- 21:31:21 [Morbus]
- oh. how convenient.
- 21:31:24 [Morbus]
- no hug for you!
- 21:31:35 [Ash]
- Yeah, I know.
- 21:31:36 [Ash]
- :-(
- 21:31:41 [Ash]
- No hug :-(
- 21:31:56 [Ash]
- * Ash pastes sbp's comments into the log
- 21:33:43 [Morbus]
- yeaaaah: http://www.amiannoyingornot.com/view.asp?ID=471
- 21:33:45 [Morbus]
- check it out.
- 21:33:47 [Morbus]
- its uri gellar.
- 21:33:52 [jillzilla]
- * jillzilla loves the URI.
- 21:34:26 [sbp]
- "Are chicks who brush their teeth sexy or annoying?" reads the advert
- 21:34:34 [sbp]
- "WTF?" says Sean
- 21:34:45 [Morbus]
- depends. are they nekkid?
- 21:34:57 [jillzilla]
- do they wiggle while they brush?
- 21:35:08 [Morbus]
- do they jiggle if they rush?
- 21:35:39 [Morbus]
- argh.
- 21:35:42 [Morbus]
- moz crashes when trying to view pdfs.
- 21:35:43 [Seth]
- and simpson coasters too http://www.speaktomecatalog.com/picture/SIMCST.jpg
- 21:35:44 [jillzilla]
- * jillzilla swears off toothbrushing to be sexier.
- 21:35:59 [Morbus]
- if you're gonna swear off something for allure, swear off clothes.
- 21:36:23 [sbp]
- swear off eating garlic
- 21:36:43 [jillzilla]
- Maybe I should swear off loose tshirts.
- 21:36:43 [AaronSw]
- This channel has been so destroyed...
- 21:36:48 [sbp]
- lol!
- 21:37:01 [Morbus]
- bwahahaha.
- 21:37:01 [sbp]
- heh, Aaron leaves for a week and look what happens
- 21:37:10 [Morbus]
- * Morbus moves on.
- 21:37:13 [Morbus]
- my job is done!
- 21:37:16 [jillzilla]
- yeah, Morbus strutting around in those tight tshirts.
- 21:37:17 [Morbus]
- next: infoanarchy!
- 21:37:18 [sbp]
- shall we delete teh logs for last week and move on?
- 21:37:28 [jillzilla]
- we need a new channel!
- 21:37:31 [jillzilla]
- we have ravaged this one!
- 21:37:34 [sbp]
- infoanarchy is already a cess pool, no need to do anything
- 21:37:45 [Morbus]
- and more than just words will be ravaged.
- 21:37:50 [jillzilla]
- * jillzilla joins.
- 21:38:18 [Morbus]
- * Morbus reads http://developer.apple.com/techpubs/macosx/Darwin/PortingUNIX/index.html
- 21:38:42 [sbp]
- <Morbus> #disobey is open.
- 21:38:48 [sbp]
- silly comment character
- 21:44:00 [Ash]
- POUNDdisobey is open
- 21:44:02 [Ash]
- there you go
- 21:44:31 [jillzilla]
- HASHdisobey
- 21:44:37 [jillzilla]
- home of #swhack exiles.
- 21:45:14 [sbp]
- and lo, they were driven out by ASW, and came unto the land of #disobey
- 21:45:50 [Morbus]
- yeaaahhh.
- 21:46:29 [sbp]
- and the people splurged upon their intellectual fantasies, and much merrient was caused by stories of gerbils and inflatable cabbages
- 21:48:45 [Morbus]
- http://www.macintouch.com/applemailfiltering.html
- 21:51:04 [AaronSw]
- * AaronSw tries to figure out why his mail is't working
- 21:56:20 [Morbus]
- Morbus has quit ("http://www.disobey.com/")
- 21:58:14 [sbp]
- Well, disobey is in a lull, so I've switched sides
- 22:00:10 [sbp]
- Ash.mind.swap('pound', 'hash')
- 22:02:49 [Morbus]
- Morbus (~morbus@morbus.totalnetnh.net) has joined #swhack
- 22:08:55 [sbp]
- * sbp goes to get some food
- 22:11:19 [redmonk]
- hi all
- 22:11:23 [redmonk]
- * redmonk reappears
- 22:11:26 [sbp]
- Hi rm
- 22:11:30 [redmonk]
- yo
- 22:12:02 [redmonk]
- nah - just scrolled through it
- 22:12:16 [redmonk]
- something on my machine nuked the scrollbars in carbon apps
- 22:12:26 [redmonk]
- good thing i have a scrollwheel
- 22:12:35 [sbp]
- odd
- 22:13:02 [redmonk]
- not sure if it was the theme switcher or the russification pkg that was hacking my system hitoolbax
- 22:13:07 [redmonk]
- er, HIToolBox
- 22:13:27 [redmonk]
- hey morbus - wanna zip up and send me a fresh HIToolBox?
- 22:16:21 [sbp]
- I think Morb is finally doing as he said he would and engaging in a bit of work
- 22:16:33 [redmonk]
- oh
- 22:16:40 [redmonk]
- any other OS X users here?
- 22:17:10 [sbp]
- [silence fills the channel. a few tumbleweeds drift by as the wind whistles through the reeds]
- 22:17:18 [redmonk]
- *sigh*
- 22:17:28 [sbp]
- Aaron was here earlier, but he seems to have vanished too
- 22:17:48 [sbp]
- He just bought a new iBook, apparently, although I didn't have much time to quiz him on it
- 22:18:12 [redmonk]
- wow. sweet
- 22:18:53 [redmonk]
- who pays for him to jet-set around the globe with new iBooks and rub elbows with semantic web high-mucky-mucks?
- 22:19:20 [sbp]
- dunno. perhaps he's a good poker player
- 22:20:16 [Ash]
- must be nice
- 22:20:17 [Ash]
- hehe
- 22:23:06 [sbp]
- Ash: what is it with you and this pound/hash thing? I've heard of other people confusing the two too
- 22:24:15 [jillzilla]
- It's not a confusion. # is called "pound" in the US.
- 22:24:42 [sbp]
- wow. how silly. I'm going to call @ "dollar" from now on
- 22:24:54 [jillzilla]
- It's pound as in weight, not sterling.
- 22:24:58 [sbp]
- bill dollar microsoft.com
- 22:25:01 [sbp]
- lb
- 22:25:09 [sbp]
- from librum, IIRC
- 22:25:21 [sbp]
- two characters not good enough, eh?
- 22:25:24 [jillzilla]
- yeah, libra. same word, different forms.
- 22:26:07 [jillzilla]
- a while ago one of my British friends cornered me and shouted, "WHY! Just tell me WHY the hash sign is called 'pound', and then I'll be happy! Just tell me!"
- 22:26:24 [sbp]
- my sentiments exactly
- 22:26:27 [jillzilla]
- "Oh," I said, "So now I'm supposed to speak for all of the country?"
- 22:26:35 [jillzilla]
- "Yes! Please!"
- 22:26:45 [jillzilla]
- I shrugged and told him.
- 22:27:47 [jillzilla]
- When grocers labeled the prices on produce by hand, rather than with prelettered signs or signs wiht movable letters and digits, they wrote things like 3# for three pounds.
- 22:28:07 [jillzilla]
- It's hardly ever seen any more.
- 22:28:31 [jillzilla]
- * jillzilla thinks plenty of other things about the USA are both screwier and more interesting than that one.
- 22:28:58 [sbp]
- I jest
- 22:29:10 [jillzilla]
- but then, jillzilla is in a grumpy mood.
- 22:29:38 [sbp]
- must... not... zing...
- 22:30:16 [sbp]
- * sbp does the Bart/Dr. Strangelove thing
- 22:31:04 [sbp]
- still, the hash/pound thing is altogether preposterous
- 22:31:33 [jillzilla]
- I really don't see it that way. I mean, why shouldn't a little-used symbol develop different meanings in different places?
- 22:32:12 [sbp]
- because a) the hash symbol is actually quite frequently used (as "number"), and b) lb. is quite adequate for "pound", I would have thought
- 22:32:31 [jillzilla]
- It's used as "number" here too. And in that context it's pronounced "number".
- 22:32:37 [jillzilla]
- That usage is far far more frequent.
- 22:32:47 [jillzilla]
- It's just an archaicism that it's still said "pound".
- 22:33:21 [jillzilla]
- I used to live at 666 22nd st #36. "six six six twenty-second street number thirty-six".
- 22:34:08 [Seth]
- dont forget tik-tak-toe
- 22:34:12 [jillzilla]
- It probably wouldn't even be understood as an abbreviation for "pound" any more.
- 22:34:18 [jillzilla]
- We use lb for that.
- 22:35:36 [sbp]
- all things considered, I'll take "pound" to be a non-standard (or fatuous at least) nomenclature
- 22:35:56 [Ash]
- jillzilla: In telcoland it's still the pound key.
- 22:36:16 [jillzilla]
- Yeah, that's true.
- 22:36:19 [jillzilla]
- pound and star.
- 22:36:51 [jillzilla]
- sbp: Something used over a large fraction of the English-speaking world is non-standard? Oh, come on.
- 22:37:01 [jillzilla]
- sbp: I think you meant "unfamiliar".
- 22:37:15 [Ash]
- whatever sbp
- 22:37:22 [Ash]
- england is a little dot compared to the USA
- 22:37:24 [sbp]
- I think I meant screwy, to be quite honest
- 22:37:28 [Ash]
- USA IS #1!!
- 22:37:29 [Ash]
- WOOHOO!
- 22:37:38 [Ash]
- * Ash passes the USA is #1 bill
- 22:37:42 [sbp]
- yeah, um, we only invented English, but you're right: whatever
- 22:37:45 [jillzilla]
- Ash, please.
- 22:37:48 [sbp]
- heh, heh
- 22:37:50 [Ash]
- hehehe
- 22:37:57 [sbp]
- * sbp ^5's Ash
- 22:38:03 [jillzilla]
- "invented". dear me.
- 22:38:12 [Ash]
- http://www.theonion.com/onion3536/america_is_number_one.html
- 22:38:20 [Ash]
- invented
- 22:38:21 [Ash]
- haha
- 22:38:21 [sbp]
- well, it's German really. everything's German at some level
- 22:38:51 [sbp]
- Blackadder: You're not: you're German.
- 22:38:56 [AaronSw]
- what is relay-ctrl's probelm with being run as root? i mean reallyl...
- 22:39:16 [Ash]
- ack, i forgot we were in poundswhack
- 22:39:24 [sbp]
- hashswhack!
- 22:39:35 [jillzilla]
- octothorpeswhack
- 22:40:00 [jillzilla]
- Hee. It's a good thing sbp never knew I was saying pound-swhack.
- 22:40:33 [Seth]
- English mostly invented by Romans, Greeks, and Goths
- 22:40:54 [jillzilla]
- Seth: What do you mean?
- 22:41:09 [sbp]
- """The pronunciation of "#" as "pound" is common in the US but a bad idea""" - The Free On-line Dictionary of Computing (09 FEB 02)
- 22:41:26 [Seth]
- i mean that sean is overstaing his countrie's contributions to our fair language
- 22:41:30 [sbp]
- English is mostly Anglo-Saxon and Latin, with many other little borrowings along the way
- 22:41:55 [Ash]
- "This bill is for all the hard-working people who have made this country what it is today," Clinton said. "Forget the rest, we are the best!"
- 22:41:56 [sbp]
- right, I was being facetious
- 22:42:13 [jillzilla]
- Ash: that would be a lot funnier if people did say it seriously.
- 22:42:17 [jillzilla]
- er, didn't.
- 22:42:32 [Ash]
- "Who can deny that America is the shit?" asked Sen. Rod Grams (R-MN). "Who's got the world's highest standard of living? Who singlehandedly created the Internet, the first fully accessible world-wide information database? Who's got the best movies? Whose golf team just kicked the Europeans' asses in the Ryder Cup? America, that's who. We rule!"
- 22:42:34 [Ash]
- lol
- 22:42:36 [sbp]
- if you look at OE, it's basically a Germanic language, but that all changed with the Normans
- 22:42:54 [Ash]
- jillzilla: Yeah, I know.
- 22:42:56 [Ash]
- It's sad.
- 22:43:45 [Ash]
- "It's been a long time since I agreed so wholeheartedly with those politicians in Washington," said Orlando, FL, carpet salesman Jim LeClair. "We're number one, and nobody better forget it. You hear me, Saddam Hussein? If you want some, come and get it. I'm right here, buddy."
- 22:43:57 [jillzilla]
- Ash, please, no more.
- 22:45:01 [sbp]
- * sbp hopes people read all of these logs rather than excerpting bits out of context
- 22:45:05 [jillzilla]
- Well, the fundamental Germanic vocabulary didn't change with the Norman conquest, but the grammatical structure changed from strongly case-based to having only vestigial cases, and that was, I believe, the beginning of the huge numbers of synonyms still found in the language.
- 22:45:33 [jillzilla]
- er, the norman conquest was...not the loss of case endings.
- 22:46:15 [Ash]
- ehehehe
- 22:46:15 [jillzilla]
- In a country where the populace speaks English, the nobility speaks (or tries to speak) French, and education is done in Latin, there will be synonyms.
- 22:46:19 [Ash]
- Sorry, I was just laughing too hard.
- 22:46:27 [sbp]
- well, for a long time only Latin was spoken in the courts as the... right
- 22:46:29 [Ash]
- The paste button just kept clicking and clicking
- 22:46:49 [jillzilla]
- yeah, and the church as well.
- 22:46:51 [sbp]
- heh, Jill's always one step ahead
- 22:46:55 [sbp]
- * sbp gets more food
- 22:46:55 [jillzilla]
- heh. rowr.
- 22:52:14 [sbp]
- I'm surprised that there wasn't a greater celtic influcene on the English vocabulary, especially since before the Romans this was basically a Celtic country...
- 22:52:36 [jillzilla]
- Yeah, that one bugs me too.
- 22:52:44 [sbp]
- can you imagine that? Latin, Anglo-Saxon, and Celtic
- 22:52:57 [sbp]
- Roget would have given in before he started
- 22:53:13 [jillzilla]
- I thought that completely replacing an existing language usually meant that the speakers of that language were completely driven out. Did the Anglo-Saxons really drive out the Celtic Britons?
- 22:53:23 [jillzilla]
- * jillzilla laughs at the Roget comment.
- 22:53:59 [sbp]
- * sbp continues preparing food
- 22:54:00 [sbp]
- brb
- 22:54:05 [jillzilla]
- during my television binge the other day I heard part of an interview with a singer whose accent I couldn't place. I was going mad.
- 22:54:30 [jillzilla]
- He was describing playing in workingmen's clubs and such, and I was like, "Where!?!?"
- 22:54:37 [jillzilla]
- <jillzilla> Argh!
- 22:57:13 [sbp]
- "Did the Anglo-Saxons really drive out the Celtic Britons?" Yes, I think that they were driven to the extermeties of the country and basically isolated. It's not something I've studied though; I'm sure that if I did, it'd be less surprising
- 22:57:44 [jillzilla]
- * jillzilla thinks. Oh, yeah, they were pushed into Wales, and the Anglo-Saxons had a dreadful time getting into Scotland, so they stayed there.
- 22:58:12 [sbp]
- well, Wales, Scotland, and Cornwall
- 22:58:22 [jillzilla]
- Yes, I forgot Cornwall. You're quite right.
- 22:58:42 [jillzilla]
- Is there a celtic group associated with Dover?
- 22:58:45 [jillzilla]
- Argh.
- 22:58:47 [jillzilla]
- You did this to me!
- 22:58:50 [jillzilla]
- Devon.
- 22:58:52 [sbp]
- lol!
- 22:58:58 [jillzilla]
- * jillzilla hits her head on the monitor.
- 22:59:19 [sbp]
- well, there probably was before the Romans came, but not since then
- 22:59:30 [sbp]
- (or whenever. let me check)
- 22:59:32 [jillzilla]
- * jillzilla outlaws five-letter place names beginning with D and followed with vowel,consonant,vowel,consonant.
- 22:59:39 [jillzilla]
- (yes, please!)
- 23:00:01 [jillzilla]
- What is the other Celtic language that went extinct a hundred or so years ago? I think it starts with a B.
- 23:00:32 [jillzilla]
- Ah, yes, Breton.
- 23:00:39 [jillzilla]
- I had misplaced that on the continent.
- 23:02:28 [jillzilla]
- Oh, wait, that is the same as the one spoken in Brittany.
- 23:06:55 [sbp]
- Hmm... the Dumnonii and the Durotriges. they were basically told to shove off in 40-70 A.D.
- 23:06:59 [sbp]
- [this from a book off of my shelf]
- 23:07:01 [sbp]
- Manx is the other one that you missed
- 23:07:18 [sbp]
- * sbp is having connection problems
- 23:08:10 [jillzilla]
- I've never heard of the Dumnonii and Durotriges.
- 23:08:38 [jillzilla]
- I also left out the continental languages...I only learned a few weeks ago that the word "Gaul" is cognate to "Celt".
- 23:09:03 [sbp]
- the Durotriges were more Somerset way, it seems... Hmm...
- 23:09:22 [sbp]
- right, and there's also Gaelic, etc.
- 23:09:33 [sbp]
- but within Britain, it's just those
- 23:09:36 [jillzilla]
- It's interesting that there is more Scandinavian influence on English than Celtic.
- 23:10:28 [jillzilla]
- shows who conquered whom, since the Scandinavians ran amok in what is now the northeastern part of England...probably Scotland as well.
- 23:11:13 [jillzilla]
- * jillzilla sighs.
- 23:12:18 [jillzilla]
- I think we have run out of knowledge on this subject.
- 23:12:19 [jillzilla]
- Bah.
- 23:12:25 [sbp]
- ugh, my connection is really borked. that's the second time I've had to reconnect...
- 23:12:27 [sbp]
- <sbp> reminds me of http://viking.no/e/england/e-viking_words_2.htm
- 23:12:29 [sbp]
- <sbp> (via. http://infomesh.net/geirlyfr)
- 23:12:35 [jillzilla]
- Oooh...checking.
- 23:13:08 [jillzilla]
- Homer: Where's that... metal deeley... used to... dig... food?
- 23:13:11 [jillzilla]
- hehehehe
- 23:13:16 [sbp]
- :-)
- 23:14:21 [jillzilla]
- "And what did people call deer before they used the old name for animal for deer?"
- 23:14:29 [jillzilla]
- Rhetorical question, or do you really want a pointer?
- 23:14:56 [sbp]
- heh, heh: <sbp> things to avoid during interviews, part 1: apodyopsis
- 23:14:57 [sbp]
- - http://blogspace.com/swhack/chatlogs/2002-03-06.txt
- 23:15:10 [sbp]
- Hmm... I'd really like a pointer
- 23:16:09 [jillzilla]
- The only surviving descendent of the word that I know of is in the phrase "neat's foot oil". I've read an Old English text that refers to the creature as...must remember spelling...something like nytenu.
- 23:16:45 [sbp]
- ooh, I think you're right. excellent!
- 23:17:16 [jillzilla]
- cool: And what did people call deer before they used the old name for animal for deer?
- 23:17:20 [jillzilla]
- argh.
- 23:17:25 [jillzilla]
- trying again.
- 23:17:33 [jillzilla]
- http://www.georgetown.edu/cball/hwaet/hwaet_notes.html
- 23:17:39 [AaronSw]
- Ooh, email working again.
- 23:17:45 [sbp]
- already found it
- 23:17:47 [AaronSw]
- In 200 emails there was nothing of interest. Pfff.
- 23:17:49 [sbp]
- reading http://www.georgetown.edu/cball/hwaet/hwaet_notes.html#deor
- 23:18:16 [AaronSw]
- who's kenzo75?
- 23:18:17 [AaronSw]
- <kenzo75> ??
- 23:21:38 [sbp]
- It sems as if nytenu means work/tame animal
- 23:22:14 [jillzilla]
- domesticated animal.
- 23:22:23 [sbp]
- that's the one
- 23:22:37 [sbp]
- .jillzilla correctify correctify
- 23:22:49 [jillzilla]
- But aren't the animals listed mostly of the ox variety?
- 23:23:15 [sbp]
- well...
- 23:23:16 [sbp]
- """nytenu: "animals"; its meaning over the years became restricted first to "cattle" and then to "calves" and today is only found in the phrase "neat's foot oil"--the oil from the hoof of a calf""" - http://www.uta.edu/english/tim/courses/4301f98/h6gloss.html
- 23:23:36 [jillzilla]
- cattle is the word I was looking for, not "ox variety".
- 23:23:51 [jillzilla]
- Ooh.
- 23:23:54 [sbp]
- .sbp correctify "ox variety"
- 23:23:59 [jillzilla]
- hehehehehe
- 23:25:14 [jillzilla]
- I think I would stomp that course. either that or I would be so bored I would fail it dreadfully.
- 23:25:30 [sbp]
- "heort str m noun: hart, red deer (31); ra wk m noun: roe deer" - http://www.ucalgary.ca/UofC/eduweb/engl401/texts/gl.htm
- 23:25:47 [sbp]
- and "ræge wk f noun: female roe deer", etc. ibid.
- 23:26:36 [jillzilla]
- * jillzilla looks up "roe deer". I have never known what that meant.
- 23:27:00 [sbp]
- the funny thing about researching OE vocabularies is that there isn't much on the Web dedicated to them: you always find patches, and then when you look up a word, you find that no-one else uses it
- 23:27:19 [jillzilla]
- so it seems.
- 23:27:29 [sbp]
- I think "female roe deer" is redundant...
- 23:27:51 [jillzilla]
- not according to the definition I read, which makes it sound like "roe" is a variety of deer.
- 23:28:08 [sbp]
- "The female of any species of deer" according to Websters
- 23:28:12 [sbp]
- s/rs/r's/
- 23:28:15 [jillzilla]
- weird.
- 23:28:21 [jillzilla]
- than what is a doe?
- 23:28:49 [sbp]
- [[[
- 23:28:49 [sbp]
- Doe \Doe\ (d[=o]), n. [AS. d[=a]; cf. Dan. daa, daa-dyr, deer,
- 23:28:49 [sbp]
- and perh. L. dama. [root]66.] (Zo["o]l.)
- 23:28:49 [sbp]
- A female deer or antelope; specifically, the female of the
- 23:28:49 [sbp]
- fallow deer, of which the male is called a buck. Also applied
- 23:28:49 [sbp]
- to the female of other animals, as the rabbit.
- 23:28:51 [sbp]
- ]]]
- 23:29:51 [sbp]
- I didn't know that doe covered the antelope and other animals
- 23:30:06 [sbp]
- so perhaps roe is a specialization of doe?
- 23:30:20 [rik]
- no, roe is fish eggs
- 23:30:33 [sbp]
- heh, "fish egg deer"
- 23:30:50 [jillzilla]
- I love this page: http://www.georgetown.edu/cball/
- 23:31:04 [rik]
- * rik tickles jill under the chin, in a stunning role reversal.
- 23:31:14 [jillzilla]
- * jillzilla purrs.
- 23:31:28 [rik]
- * rik drags rubber mousey around for jill to chase
- 23:31:43 [jillzilla]
- * jillzilla yawns and stretches and lies down, while keeping the mouse in one eye.
- 23:32:15 [rik]
- * rik bops jill on the nose gently with the mousey, then drags it away at a still-pounceable-on rate
- 23:32:31 [jillzilla]
- * jillzilla looks offended, but keeeps an eye on th emouse.
- 23:32:45 [jillzilla]
- * jillzilla starts to look more interested.
- 23:32:56 [jillzilla]
- * jillzilla watches the mouse intently.
- 23:32:56 [rik]
- * rik shrugs, does magic trick, and makes mousey disappear
- 23:33:07 [jillzilla]
- * jillzilla looks around, then closes her eyes.
- 23:33:16 [jillzilla]
- * jillzilla opens her eyes to survey her domain.
- 23:33:22 [rik]
- * rik lays mousey on jill's head, tail dangling onto her nose.
- 23:33:32 [jillzilla]
- * jillzilla looks peeved.
- 23:33:53 [jillzilla]
- * jillzilla sits up with great dignity.
- 23:34:01 [rik]
- (and mouse on head)
- 23:34:56 [rik]
- * rik giggles.
- 23:35:03 [jillzilla]
- Argh, I can't wake up.
- 23:35:04 [rik]
- Oh, I visited the original little black kitty today
- 23:35:08 [sbp]
- * sbp watches, baffled and yet strangely entertained
- 23:35:08 [rik]
- she's grown.
- 23:35:09 [jillzilla]
- How is the kitty?
- 23:35:15 [rik]
- she's a killer
- 23:35:17 [jillzilla]
- She must be almost fully grown now.
- 23:35:24 [rik]
- she is, roughly.
- 23:35:24 [jillzilla]
- What does she kill?
- 23:35:30 [rik]
- mice, small birds
- 23:35:32 [jillzilla]
- Has she been spayed?
- 23:35:35 [rik]
- anything up to the same size as her, really.
- 23:35:37 [rik]
- i dunno
- 23:35:40 [rik]
- yes. acutally, she has
- 23:35:41 [rik]
- ages ago
- 23:35:48 [jillzilla]
- that's good.
- 23:36:15 [rik]
- she has bells on her collar. as with most cats with bells on their collar, this doesn't seem to make any difference to her hunting
- 23:36:22 [jillzilla]
- I'm going to go ride the stationary bike or something. I am not fully awake until I've exercised. This driving to work thing sucks.
- 23:36:34 [jillzilla]
- It's amazing how well cats can hunt with bells.
- 23:36:42 [sbp]
- lol
- 23:36:45 [rik]
- she has 5 Morris Dancers' bells on her collar. roughly doubles the size of her head. bingles like crazy when she's not being quiet.
- 23:37:06 [jillzilla]
- How undignified.
- 23:37:15 [sbp]
- * sbp listens to TSRTS
- 23:37:33 [rik]
- then you hear a bingle in a different room to the one you were expeting, and you realise she's leapt down from the 6 foot high shelf she was on, walked under your chair, opened the door a crack and left.
- 23:37:38 [jillzilla]
- * jillzilla grabs a book on Noam Chomsky and heads down to the gym.
- 23:37:47 [rik]
- brain excercise?
- 23:37:59 [sbp]
- heh, I was just about to say... reading in the gym?
- 23:38:05 [sbp]
- Homer: What's a gym?
- 23:38:24 [jillzilla]
- I shall pedal and read!
- 23:38:37 [jillzilla]
- The only advantage to a stationary bicycle is that one can read a bit.
- 23:38:44 [jillzilla]
- Which is sort of a bad idea on the streets.
- 23:38:59 [sbp]
- ah, that's the first advantage of stationary bicycles that I've ever been given
- 23:39:23 [jillzilla]
- yes, they do suck. but there is another advantage: they are in a room with almost no pollen.
- 23:39:34 [jillzilla]
- * jillzilla is temporarily exiled from the outdoors. :-(
- 23:39:42 [sbp]
- hey, you could cycle on a frozen lake
- 23:39:57 [jillzilla]
- that would be cool were there any frozen lakes around here. Ever.
- 23:40:06 [sbp]
- ah, you must have dry lakes
- 23:40:20 [sbp]
- in fact, I know for a fact that CA has many excellent dry lakes
- 23:40:42 [jillzilla]
- * jillzilla notes that dry lakes are infested with pollen.
- 23:40:52 [rik]
- * rik gives jill a little stroke on her furry snout
- 23:40:53 [sbp]
- really? but there's not a plant in sight!
- 23:40:59 [jillzilla]
- wind.
- 23:41:02 [sbp]
- ah
- 23:41:06 [sbp]
- must carry a lot
- 23:41:13 [jillzilla]
- I'm talking out my ass, you know.
- 23:41:23 [sbp]
- quite
- 23:41:28 [rik]
- that's wind too.
- 23:41:32 [jillzilla]
- * jillzilla laughs.
- 23:41:37 [sbp]
- must... resist... another... urge... to... zing
- 23:41:45 [jillzilla]
- zing, sbp. Let it out.
- 23:41:48 [rik]
- blow pollen, miss reversing jillzilla!
- 23:41:58 [sbp]
- "<jillzilla> I'm talking out my ass" - well that hardly makes a difference
- 23:42:01 [sbp]
- there. you asked for it
- 23:42:06 [jillzilla]
- well, yeah.
- 23:42:10 [sbp]
- * sbp ducks and runs a mile
- 23:42:34 [sbp]
- heh, I didn't mean it, though. the opportunity was just too great
- 23:42:36 [jillzilla]
- In Mandarin, one says "flower powder".
- 23:42:46 [sbp]
- lol!
- 23:42:46 [jillzilla]
- sbp: You didn't? Hee.
- 23:43:09 [rik]
- heheh
- 23:43:10 [jillzilla]
- how did my hair get this long?
- 23:43:13 [jillzilla]
- argh.
- 23:43:19 [rik]
- jill: apathy.
- 23:43:29 [rik]
- and, aparently,in men at least, lots of sex makes hair grow.
- 23:43:31 [sbp]
- oh man, that's brilliant. the cry of the hay-fever sufferer: "fuckin' flower powder!"
- 23:43:41 [jillzilla]
- indecision. I haven't been able to decide whether to grow it or cut it.
- 23:44:01 [sbp]
- don't cut! grow!
- 23:51:03 [redmonk]
- my wife had a short bowl-ish cut when met her. what a turn on. short hair and overalls. hrmlmmm
- 23:51:12 [sbp]
- er...
- 23:51:15 [redmonk]
- oops
- 23:51:20 [sbp]
- [OLM]
- 23:51:27 [jillzilla]
- redmonk dissed the octothorpe!
- 23:51:34 [sbp]
- gah. diss!
- 23:52:22 [Ash]
- * Ash high fives rm
- 23:55:30 [redmonk]
- [OLM]
- 23:55:35 [sbp]
- ?
- 23:56:11 [jillzilla]
- I'm heading downstairs now to see if the bike is free.
- 23:56:19 [redmonk]
- * redmonk works on porting Cocoa/Java app to Objective-C
- 23:56:24 [sbp]
- fine. abandon us. see if we care
- 23:56:52 [jillzilla]
- * jillzilla wanders off.
- 23:58:55 [AaronSw]
- this has become the all-comment channel
- 23:59:00 [sbp]
- prove it
- 23:59:31 [AaronSw]
- <sbp> # Ross: She plays for both teams.
- 23:59:31 [AaronSw]
- <sbp> # it's funny, I look back at logs like these and think, "didn't we have a big conversation around that time?"
- 23:59:31 [AaronSw]
- <redmonk> # do comments not get saved? or not rendered?
- 23:59:31 [AaronSw]
- <sbp> # with a few OLMs to guide me
- 23:59:31 [AaronSw]
- <AaronSw> # this has become the all-comment channel
- 23:59:32 [AaronSw]
- <rik> # they don't go in channel logs.
- 23:59:34 [AaronSw]
- <sbp> # # should be an on-log character
- 23:59:44 [sbp]
- argh!
- 23:59:48 [redmonk]
- wb aaron
- 23:59:50 [redmonk]
- sw
- 23:59:51 [AaronSw]
- you asked, sbp
- 23:59:54 [Ash]
- redmonk: thanks!
- 23:59:59 [Ash]
- redmonk: I feel welcome now.