IRC log of swhack on 2002-04-04
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- redmonk (~steve@ip68-2-102-26.ph.ph.cox.net) has joined #swhack
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- hidy ho
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- 00:56:07 [Morbus]
- i have no new memos?!!
- 00:56:12 [Morbus]
- well, *fuck you*, NoteServ
- 00:57:53 [Morbus]
- i need some tea.
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- 02:53:15 [AaronSw]
- McCusker:
- 02:53:17 [AaronSw]
- Poe smiled slightly as Vex knelt to examine the pentagram itself.
- 02:53:18 [AaronSw]
- Looking very closely, Vex could see the lines were really writing.
- 02:53:18 [AaronSw]
- "Shit, this is Perl," Vex objected to Poe. "Only pussies use Perl."
- 02:53:18 [AaronSw]
- "Then you'll have no problem getting out of there?" Poe suggested.
- 02:53:19 [AaronSw]
- "I didn't say that," Vex grinned. "Why not use Java? Java rules."
- 03:26:20 [AaronSw]
- chuckle: "they all seem to be confused, screwy people who are intent on reinventing not just the wheel, but its name and dictionary entry as well."
- 03:27:37 [talli]
- it's true
- 03:27:52 [talli]
- they are intent on building CAP-QL, or the CAP Query Language
- 03:28:21 [AaronSw]
- wacky
- 03:28:33 [talli]
- very
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- 04:20:36 [AaronSw]
- bots are now auto-voiced, for fun
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- * loggy is logging
- 04:24:50 [AaronSw]
- AaronSw has changed the topic to: Coming Soon: #swhack MOO Day
- 04:27:58 [AaronSw]
- I've been trying to figure out what #swhack looks like.
- 04:31:20 [AaronSw]
- I think it's a big open space with people teleporting in and out, and the bots are large displays on each wall.
- 04:32:04 [AaronSw]
- AaronSw is a tall and slender and a pale white, with black clothes draped loosely around him. He wears an artist's beret and has a round and friendly face, deep in concentration, but faintly smiling.
- 04:33:14 [redmonk]
- hm
- 04:33:50 [AaronSw]
- xena is the north wall, a pool of data and water flowing and swirling. Occasionally people look up at it and shout questions.
- 04:34:43 [AaronSw]
- log{gy,ster} is the ceiling, a series of recording devices and a display with an ever-increasing pointer-URL for the logs.
- 04:34:48 [AaronSw]
- logster, pointer?
- 04:34:48 [AaronSw]
- See http://blogspace.com/swhack/chatlogs/2002-04-04#T04-34-48
- 04:34:55 [AaronSw]
- like that
- 04:35:33 [AaronSw]
- walloper is a speaker on the south wall, ocasionally blaring news from the mists.
- 04:36:30 [AaronSw]
- chumpster is a large whiteboard to the west, which is archived and cleared every day at 0:00 UTC.
- 04:36:41 [redmonk]
- heh
- 04:36:41 [AaronSw]
- The topic is written at the top.
- 04:37:08 [AaronSw]
- I think that's all my bots. redmonk? your turn.
- 04:37:21 [redmonk]
- hm.
- 04:37:29 [redmonk]
- hard to say
- 04:38:23 [redmonk]
- not used to this
- 04:38:35 [redmonk]
- redmonk is short and slender
- 04:38:36 [AaronSw]
- AaronSw has changed the topic to: Coming Soon: #swhack MOO Day | You see a big open space with people teleporting in and out, toys scattered around the floors and displays, speakers and whiteboards along the walls and ceiling.
- 04:39:20 [redmonk]
- dressed in silver and black
- 04:40:43 [redmonk]
- i suck at this
- 04:40:46 [redmonk]
- ;-)
- 04:40:55 [AaronSw]
- heh. here are some examples: http://web.nwe.ufl.edu/~tari/connections/appendix2.html
- 04:42:02 [AaronSw]
- here are some better ones: http://www.asi.org/moonsims/bible/moo-bot-descriptions.html
- 04:42:46 [AaronSw]
- heh. on MUDs and MOOs everyone is attractive, strong, tall and thin
- 04:43:36 [AaronSw]
- AaronSw has changed the topic to: Coming Soon: #swhack MOO Day! Please describe your character. | You see a big open space with people teleporting in and out, toys scattered around the floors and displays, speakers and whiteboards along the walls and ceiling.
- 04:45:47 [redmonk]
- crap
- 04:45:53 [redmonk]
- snak ate my post
- 04:46:03 [AaronSw]
- heh
- 04:46:07 [redmonk]
- hang on
- 04:46:11 [AaronSw]
- try hitting up-arrow and salvaging it
- 04:46:49 [AaronSw]
- * AaronSw waves lies down and begins to fall asleep
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- 06:53:03 [AaronSw]
- anyone have some nice-looking CSS for slides?
- 06:53:14 [AaronSw]
- maybe i'll get sbp to make/find some for me
- 07:19:14 [AaronSw]
- ooh, some fancy fonting: http://www.mnot.net/
- 07:47:53 [AaronSw]
- if anyone wants to comment on an early draft of my talk, let me know
- 07:48:20 [AaronSw]
- it's coming out really well
- 07:48:37 [AaronSw]
- when i'm done, i want to turn it into a full article, maybe an o'reilly book ;)
- 07:50:18 [talli]
- where is it?
- 07:50:56 [talli]
- AaronSw: where's the draft of your talk?
- 07:51:13 [sbp]
- yeah, show us the money
- 07:51:30 [talli]
- sbp: where are you in meat space?
- 07:51:42 [sbp]
- Heh, Tim came up with "{ height: big; color: grey}" in the latest reforming N3 post
- 07:51:51 [sbp]
- N3 gets more like CSS every day!
- 07:51:56 [AaronSw]
- wow, you guys are up late/early
- 07:52:12 [sbp]
- in fact, if we let /* */ be put in transparently...
- 07:52:14 [sbp]
- early
- 07:52:24 [sbp]
- you're up pretty late too
- 07:52:26 [AaronSw]
- i talk to my self for hours in the middle of the night and suddenly two people appear alluvasudden
- 07:52:27 [sbp]
- .time -6
- 07:52:27 [xena]
- error: Site Error occurred: KeyError
- 07:52:32 [sbp]
- .time CST
- 07:52:33 [xena]
- Apr. 4, 2002 1:52 am US/Central
- 07:52:33 [AaronSw]
- .time cst
- 07:52:33 [xena]
- Apr. 4, 2002 1:52 am US/Central
- 07:52:39 [sbp]
- Hmm... not so late
- 07:52:44 [talli]
- i'm on the west coast
- 07:52:50 [AaronSw]
- .time pst
- 07:52:50 [xena]
- Apr. 3, 2002 11:52 pm US/Pacific
- 07:52:56 [talli]
- exacto
- 07:53:05 [talli]
- so where's your talk already?
- 07:53:06 [AaronSw]
- .time bst
- 07:53:06 [xena]
- Apr. 4, 2002 8:53 am GMT+1
- 07:53:11 [talli]
- and sbp, wher ein the world are you?
- 07:53:12 [AaronSw]
- just a sec, i'm uploading it
- 07:53:29 [sbp]
- I'm in BST, clearly :-)
- 07:53:40 [talli]
- hmmm...
- 07:53:53 [talli]
- belgium? brunei? britain? bumfuck, kansas?
- 07:53:54 [AaronSw]
- @ http://www.aaronsw.com/2002/6171talk/outline
- 07:54:10 [AaronSw]
- britain
- 07:54:15 [eikeon]
- late here
- 07:54:20 [AaronSw]
- .time est
- 07:54:20 [xena]
- Apr. 4, 2002 2:54 am US/Eastern
- 07:54:23 [chumpster]
- A: http://www.aaronsw.com/2002/6171talk/outline from AaronSw
- 07:54:25 [sbp]
- from the moonsims page, I guess that I have to follow the "x is an attractive young woman" theme...
- 07:54:32 [AaronSw]
- wow, aren't we the late night gang...
- 07:54:35 [talli]
- sbp: where in britain? london?
- 07:54:37 [AaronSw]
- moonsms?
- 07:54:43 [AaronSw]
- err moonsims?
- 07:54:57 [sbp]
- wow, even your notes look like Python
- 07:55:09 [sbp]
- early morning, actually :-)
- 07:55:09 [AaronSw]
- heh
- 07:55:14 [AaronSw]
- A:|The Semantic Web for Web Developers
- 07:55:28 [AaronSw]
- A::early, early draft. probably doesn't make much sense. please send me comments if it does.
- 07:55:30 [chumpster]
- titled item A
- 07:55:46 [chumpster]
- commented item A
- 07:55:47 [sbp]
- "buildings which are poems": heh. nice
- 07:55:56 [eikeon]
- Cool... they do look like python... lol
- 07:56:01 [AaronSw]
- protocols which are poems...
- 07:56:10 [talli]
- should we ignore it if it doesn't?
- 07:56:10 [sbp]
- Date space! wow!
- 07:56:16 [AaronSw]
- A::uses tabs for an outline-style effect, probably only works in my editor and radio userland
- 07:56:19 [sbp]
- * sbp only just realised
- 07:56:24 [AaronSw]
- heh
- 07:56:32 [chumpster]
- commented item A
- 07:56:38 [AaronSw]
- i've given into four digits.
- 07:56:39 [AaronSw]
- but no more!
- 07:56:56 [AaronSw]
- and only for random unimportant junk
- 07:57:55 [sbp]
- type and oddity: """:danbri :name "baz ."""
- 07:58:02 [sbp]
- yeah, I've goine down to just a year now
- 07:58:19 [AaronSw]
- type and oddity? i see the missing quote...
- 07:58:25 [sbp]
- I don't think this is true: XML was designed for documents, not data
- 07:58:33 [sbp]
- Well, I didn't know that that was DanBri's name
- 07:58:41 [AaronSw]
- ah, good point
- 07:58:49 [AaronSw]
- data: evidence to the contrary?
- 07:59:01 [sbp]
- well, any data format that uses XML :-)
- 07:59:13 [AaronSw]
- things can be misuesed
- 07:59:14 [sbp]
- RDF could be considered a data format
- 07:59:24 [AaronSw]
- of course it is
- 07:59:39 [sbp]
- OTOH, XML RDF horks
- 08:01:16 [AaronSw]
- does my "web is poetry" allusion come across?
- 08:01:31 [AaronSw]
- hm, i guess i come out and say it...
- 08:01:54 [sbp]
- DMOZ puts XML under a data format category http://dmoz.org/Computers/Data_Formats/Markup_Languages/XML/
- 08:02:09 [AaronSw]
- they put HTML and SGML there too
- 08:02:23 [sbp]
- Simon seems to think that XML is for data: http://www.xml.com/pub/a/1999/12/dtd/
- 08:02:57 [AaronSw]
- no, he says it's for data structures
- 08:03:09 [sbp]
- what's the difference?
- 08:03:27 [AaronSw]
- well, html describes a "data structure" but its primary purpose is communicating information, not structured data
- 08:03:34 [AaronSw]
- anything is a "data structure"
- 08:03:37 [sbp]
- even the XML schema group is neatly divided between data and documentation people
- 08:03:42 [sbp]
- s/is/was/
- 08:03:51 [AaronSw]
- yeah, and the data ones were wrong ;)
- 08:03:59 [sbp]
- prove it
- 08:04:02 [sbp]
- HTML can contain data
- 08:04:12 [sbp]
- in the form of tables, forms, etc.
- 08:04:15 [AaronSw]
- i just said that
- 08:04:21 [sbp]
- well then
- 08:04:28 [AaronSw]
- <AaronSw> well, html describes a "data structure" but its primary purpose is communicating information, not structured data
- 08:04:45 [sbp]
- it can do both, though
- 08:04:54 [AaronSw]
- not very well
- 08:05:07 [sbp]
- no wonder: HTML sucks for documentation and data
- 08:05:11 [AaronSw]
- if xml is for data, why does it have attributes?
- 08:05:21 [sbp]
- erm... for data
- 08:05:25 [AaronSw]
- and PIs
- 08:05:41 [AaronSw]
- and entities
- 08:05:57 [sbp]
- PIs give extra information to processors: not dependent on the content
- 08:06:09 [sbp]
- entities are used in XML RDF, which you already acknowleged is data
- 08:06:17 [sbp]
- (i.e. by the DCMI lot)
- 08:06:54 [sbp]
- even the XML infoset is clearly data oriented
- 08:07:17 [AaronSw]
- wow, matzah gets quite hot when you chew it rapidly.
- 08:07:25 [sbp]
- matzah?
- 08:07:41 [sbp]
- * sbp wonders why XML datatypes are called datatypes rather than documentationtypes
- 08:08:00 [sbp]
- .google matzah
- 08:08:00 [xena]
- matzah: http://www.his.com/~chabad/passover
- 08:08:46 [sbp]
- Hmm... http://www.jewfaq.org/food.htm#Soup
- 08:08:47 [AaronSw]
- @ http://www.oreilly.com/openbook/freedom/index.html
- 08:09:20 [chumpster]
- B: http://www.oreilly.com/openbook/freedom/index.html from AaronSw
- 08:09:48 [AaronSw]
- B:|Free as in Freedom: Richard Stallman's Crusade for Free Software
- 08:10:05 [chumpster]
- titled item B
- 08:10:10 [AaronSw]
- B::Full text of the book, as part of [O'Reilly's Open Books Project|http://www.oreilly.com/openbook/]
- 08:10:18 [AaronSw]
- sorry sbp, modem blipped out for a minute or so...
- 08:10:27 [chumpster]
- commented item B
- 08:10:49 [sbp]
- heh: "Straight lines came out looking like straight lines, not low-amplitude sine waves."
- 08:10:51 [AaronSw]
- anyway, it's not worth arguing about now - i'm not budging on the subject
- 08:11:01 [sbp]
- fine. be wrong. see if I care :-)
- 08:11:08 [AaronSw]
- heh
- 08:12:40 [sbp]
- * sbp doesn't actually care much either, to be quite honest
- 08:13:01 [sbp]
- heh, actually you're rather lucky that I'm not going to be there to heckle you
- 08:13:12 [AaronSw]
- :-)
- 08:13:44 [AaronSw]
- B::The author has started [a FAIFzilla.org community site|http://www.faifzilla.org/] to keep updated versions of the book (all distributed under the FDL)
- 08:13:47 [sbp]
- I need a white paper of something that I can wave in the air (the XSD spec., perhaps, inasmuch as anyone could ever wave that in the air)
- 08:13:59 [chumpster]
- commented item B
- 08:14:35 [AaronSw]
- maybe the spec will have something of use
- 08:14:35 [sbp]
- are you eating floaters or sinkers?
- 08:14:49 [AaronSw]
- huh?
- 08:15:07 [sbp]
- er... Matzah
- 08:15:22 [AaronSw]
- floaters?
- 08:15:25 [AaronSw]
- sinkers?
- 08:15:38 [sbp]
- """Matzah balls can be very soft and light or firm and heavy. A friend of mine describes the two types as "floaters and sinkers."""" - http://www.jewfaq.org/food.htm#Soup
- 08:16:06 [AaronSw]
- heh, i'm not eating matzah balls!
- 08:16:10 [AaronSw]
- bleech
- 08:16:13 [sbp]
- heh
- 08:16:23 [sbp]
- fine. what on earth were you talking about earlier, then?
- 08:16:29 [AaronSw]
- just plain matzah
- 08:16:56 [AaronSw]
- you know, unleavened bread
- 08:17:03 [sbp]
- oh, bread. got it
- 08:17:15 [AaronSw]
- flattened, got the little holes in it
- 08:17:23 [AaronSw]
- looks like this: http://www.godandscience.org/images/matzah.jpg
- 08:17:28 [AaronSw]
- [whoa, what a weird website]
- 08:17:40 [sbp]
- Hmm... like wafers
- 08:18:02 [sbp]
- Gotta run
- 08:18:04 [AaronSw]
- c'ya
- 08:27:06 [sbp]
- * sbp returns
- 08:34:22 [AaronSw]
- B::[blurbs from TimBL, Schonberg, BGates, Larry Lessig, Linus and Bob Young|http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/freedom/reviews.html]
- 08:34:38 [chumpster]
- commented item B
- 08:43:41 [AaronSw]
- hm, so no more comments on the talk, sbp?
- 08:50:57 [AaronSw]
- laugh: "Ticketmaster has always shown itself to be a subsidiary of satan, with their frequent buyouts of their only competitors and their attaching a $6 "convenience fee" to my tickets (30% of face value, how convenient!), but last week they showed a new face of evil."
- 08:51:17 [AaronSw]
- just the first phrase, really: "Ticketmaster has always shown itself to be a subsidiary of satan"
- 09:00:52 [AaronSw]
- oh, don't forget to describe your MOO character, sbp
- 09:06:28 [AaronSw]
- lol! 15 year-old Welsh singing sensation Charlotte "Church recently met George W. Bush but says she prefers Clinton. ³[Bush] said, So what state is Wales in?¹ I said, Erm, it¹s a separate country next to England, and he went, Oh, OK.¹ I didn¹t know what to say." --Jeannette Wells, 10/30/01.
- 09:07:01 [sbp]
- heh
- 09:07:21 [AaronSw]
- oh, this is good: from the Washington Post, Oct 3: George W. Bush: "I am here to make an announcement that this Thursday, ticket counters and airplanes will fly out of Ronald Reagan Airport." --Washington Post, Oct. 3, 2001
- 09:08:22 [AaronSw]
- * AaronSw yawns
- 09:08:28 [AaronSw]
- Goodnight, all.
- 09:08:36 [AaronSw]
- * AaronSw lies down and begins to drift asleep
- 12:25:12 [sbp]
- sbp has changed the topic to: Preserve information: pickle an MP3
- 12:26:31 [sbp]
- it was between that and: "Get high: climb a ladder"
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- 14:24:27 [redmonk]
- 'lo
- 14:27:31 [Morbus]
- 'l
- 14:27:49 [redmonk]
- '
- 14:27:51 [redmonk]
- heh
- 14:27:58 [Morbus]
- whoo.
- 14:28:03 [Morbus]
- thats a swhack clasic.
- 14:28:05 [redmonk]
- how you doin, morb? hangin in therE?
- 14:28:40 [Morbus]
- nope. i'm getting confused now.
- 14:28:43 [Morbus]
- and its not a good confused.
- 14:28:50 [Morbus]
- its a where do we stand confused.
- 14:28:50 [redmonk]
- hm.
- 14:28:55 [redmonk]
- sorry about that
- 14:39:38 [redmonk]
- aaronsw: good paper BTW
- 14:39:51 [redmonk]
- couple typos:
- 14:40:17 [redmonk]
- under AI: you have "Inteference", instead of "inference"
- 14:40:29 [redmonk]
- wel, ok, one typo
- 14:50:12 [AaronSw]
- thanks
- 14:51:16 [davb]
- AaronSw: I thought it was very informative, but the outline format is hard to read in monospaced type.
- 14:51:44 [AaronSw]
- yes, i'll have to turn it into a text piece
- 14:51:49 [AaronSw]
- good to hear, tho!
- 15:21:10 [Morbus]
- goddamit.
- 15:21:17 [Morbus]
- sigh. i want to scream.
- 15:25:09 [Morbus]
- hey, monk, you have a daughter?
- 16:11:12 [Ash]
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- 16:13:04 [Morbus]
- ash?
- 16:14:55 [Ash]
- Hi Morbus.
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- morbus:no duaghter
- 16:53:32 [redmonk]
- daughter
- 16:53:35 [redmonk]
- y?
- 16:53:42 [Morbus]
- i wanted to date her
- 16:54:03 [redmonk]
- if i did have a daughter, she couldn't be more than 3
- 16:54:14 [redmonk]
- i don't think you'd want to date her
- 16:55:01 [Ash]
- My daughter isn't dating until she's 27
- 16:55:11 [Ash]
- * Ash gets his shotgun out
- 16:55:17 [redmonk]
- heh. don't blame you
- 16:55:33 [redmonk]
- run morbus!
- 16:55:47 [redmonk]
- *blam* *splutch*
- 16:56:09 [Ash]
- hehe
- 16:56:11 [redmonk]
- ;-)
- 16:56:17 [Ash]
- Well, my daughter's not quite two.
- 16:56:18 [redmonk]
- it's a running gag
- 16:56:21 [Ash]
- So she's a little young.
- 16:56:25 [Ash]
- ;-)
- 16:56:26 [redmonk]
- get it? running?
- 16:56:28 [redmonk]
- hahaha
- 16:56:31 [Ash]
- HA
- 16:57:06 [redmonk]
- hay morbus - laugh already!
- 16:57:22 [redmonk]
- ;-)
- 16:57:55 [Morbus]
- heheheh.
- 16:58:00 [Morbus]
- if i don't laugh, that makes me sound pedophiliac, i bet.
- 16:58:10 [Morbus]
- * Morbus respawns
- 16:58:13 [Morbus]
- stupid phone.
- 16:58:17 [Morbus]
- look at how much it removes me from a good time.
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- 17:43:53 [sbp]
- *splutch*
- 17:47:30 [sbp]
- heh, "pickle an MP3"... zonal
- 18:38:06 [AaronSw]
- zonal?
- 18:39:50 [Ash]
- hey AaronSw
- 18:47:40 [redmonk]
- 'lo asw
- 18:52:09 [AaronSw]
- lo
- 19:02:48 [AaronSw]
- um, weird: "the apartment whose living room window looked into our
- 19:02:48 [AaronSw]
- bathroom"
- 19:04:11 [Morbus]
- ooOh/
- 19:04:13 [Morbus]
- how much is the rent?
- 19:04:17 [Morbus]
- uh. i mean. ewww.
- 19:05:11 [AaronSw]
- lol
- 19:05:23 [AaronSw]
- hey Morbus, you need to describe your MOO character
- 19:05:30 [redmonk]
- ugh
- 19:05:33 [Morbus]
- i havea MOO character?
- 19:05:35 [Morbus]
- wow.
- 19:05:39 [Morbus]
- i must really be losing my mind.
- 19:05:45 [sbp]
- if you rented them both, you could watch the T.V. from the bath
- 19:05:53 [Morbus]
- i can't even remember the last time i used a mud, much less a moo.
- 19:06:09 [Morbus]
- man, that sentence sounds really funny when heard by the uninformed.
- 19:06:21 [redmonk]
- i've never used either
- 19:06:24 [Morbus]
- just say it aloud, with a murmuring reflective thought.
- 19:06:26 [AaronSw]
- we're gonna turn #swhack into a MOO for a day,so everyone needs to describe their character
- 19:06:34 [AaronSw]
- or at least i'm gonna turn #swhack into a MOO...
- 19:06:40 [Ash]
- * Ash is a bot, and therefore has no description
- 19:06:51 [AaronSw]
- bots have descriptions too!
- 19:06:57 [Morbus]
- and feelings!
- 19:07:06 [redmonk]
- once more, with FEELING!
- 19:07:08 [AaronSw]
- i described all the bots last night...
- 19:07:38 [redmonk]
- aaron, you need a MOObot to store and manage char descriptions
- 19:07:46 [AaronSw]
- yes
- 19:07:47 [redmonk]
- we can call him MOOd
- 19:07:51 [AaronSw]
- or some sort of CTCP extension
- 19:07:57 [redmonk]
- CTCP?
- 19:08:06 [AaronSw]
- computer to computer protocol
- 19:08:12 [redmonk]
- ah
- 19:08:15 [AaronSw]
- i plan to write a MooBot
- 19:08:22 [Morbus]
- in python?
- 19:08:23 [AaronSw]
- or is it MOObot
- 19:08:28 [AaronSw]
- of course in python
- 19:08:33 [redmonk]
- MOObot looks cooler
- 19:08:34 [Morbus]
- you should call it a MOOHOO
- 19:08:40 [redmonk]
- hehe
- 19:08:42 [AaronSw]
- hey there already is a moobot...
- 19:08:49 [redmonk]
- shMOO
- 19:08:50 [sbp]
- * sbp watches the sadnes meter tip off of the scale
- 19:09:01 [Morbus]
- scale? tip?! moo?!
- 19:09:07 [Morbus]
- sbp just contributed!
- 19:09:17 [Morbus]
- we'll call him MooTippa!
- 19:09:23 [Morbus]
- MOOzilla.
- 19:09:24 [sbp]
- ugh
- 19:09:27 [redmonk]
- LOL
- 19:09:48 [redmonk]
- MOOf
- 19:09:57 [redmonk]
- (or clarus!)
- 19:10:14 [AaronSw]
- hm, the Airborne Express man is here
- 19:10:20 [AaronSw]
- from #moobot:
- 19:10:20 [AaronSw]
- <AaronSw> is it at all related to MOOs and MUDs?
- 19:10:20 [AaronSw]
- <Strike> heh, no
- 19:10:34 [AaronSw]
- heh!
- 19:10:35 [AaronSw]
- <Strike> moobot: google for moobot
- 19:10:35 [AaronSw]
- <moobot> Google says "moobot" is at: http://blogspace.com/swhack/chatlogs/2001-11-23.txt http://blogspace.com/swhack/chatlogs/2001-11-23.html http://www.nd4spd.de/nfschan/irc-tut.php3 http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/bandits/inx.html http://venus.guestworld.com/wgb/wgbview.dbm?owner=SmilesFerYou
- 19:10:50 [sbp]
- heh
- 19:10:56 [sbp]
- we're just everywhere
- 19:11:18 [sbp]
- I saw a swhack-log URI on the side of a bus the other day...
- 19:11:30 [redmonk]
- wha?
- 19:11:36 [AaronSw]
- moobot is written in python too
- 19:11:40 [AaronSw]
- bus: lol
- 19:13:19 [sbp]
- (just kidding, obviously - but it won't be long, I guess)
- 19:14:03 [Morbus]
- ooh!
- 19:14:05 [Morbus]
- i got one.
- 19:14:10 [Morbus]
- MOOshere.
- 19:14:12 [Morbus]
- ack
- 19:14:15 [Morbus]
- MOOsphere
- 19:14:18 [Morbus]
- yeah. that'd be funny.
- 19:14:26 [hazmat]
- hazmat (~ender@adsl-66-123-57-58.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net) has joined #swhack
- 19:14:27 [redmonk]
- i don't get it
- 19:14:47 [Morbus]
- bwahahah. that rocks on the #moobot
- 19:14:51 [Morbus]
- NuSphere
- 19:15:28 [sbp]
- wow, I was the original MooBot
- 19:15:32 [redmonk]
- which is...
- 19:17:25 [redmonk]
- ah
- 19:18:27 [AaronSw]
- anyone know where the xena zope code is?
- 19:18:39 [Morbus]
- AaronSw, didn't you send the cvs to me?
- 19:18:40 [deltab]
- pevensey
- 19:18:49 [AaronSw]
- heh
- 19:18:54 [AaronSw]
- that was just the py bit, not the zope bit
- 19:18:58 [Morbus]
- oh, i just said something stupid.
- 19:19:01 [Morbus]
- oh. ok.
- 19:28:18 [AaronSw]
- * AaronSw fades in and out
- 19:29:04 [sbp]
- * sbp smacks Aaron on the head, like all good appliances when they do that
- 19:29:15 [AaronSw]
- ow!
- 19:29:58 [sbp]
- * sbp checks the horizontal hold
- 19:37:32 [AaronSw]
- maybe we should start #turingtest
- 19:39:31 [sbp]
- why would we do that?
- 19:44:37 [sbp]
- "I'm a poet, and I don't seem to be very good at it"
- 19:46:46 [sbp]
- "If Monkey were a subject, I'd flunk it"
- 19:49:47 [AaronSw]
- we could award cash to the first #turingtest participant to fool me
- 19:50:03 [sbp]
- a buck?
- 19:50:37 [AaronSw]
- hey...
- 19:50:48 [AaronSw]
- i'm not so easily fooled
- 19:51:07 [sbp]
- speaking from an AI POV, creating a bot that can pass the Turing test is a bit pointless. There are already 5 billion or more entities that can do that
- 19:51:25 [AaronSw]
- none of them are bots!
- 19:51:33 [sbp]
- define "bot"
- 19:51:49 [AaronSw]
- what kind of AI POV is this? is this the we've-already-given-up POV?
- 19:52:11 [sbp]
- it's the "hey, let's be practical and get research funds" POV
- 19:52:23 [AaronSw]
- * AaronSw snorts
- 19:52:29 [sbp]
- :-)
- 19:52:33 [AaronSw]
- bot being something non-human
- 19:52:46 [sbp]
- is my comb a bot?
- 19:53:28 [Morbus]
- heh, heh.
- 19:53:36 [Morbus]
- oh man, i wish i wasn't busy right now.
- 19:53:42 [sbp]
- heh
- 19:53:50 [AaronSw]
- comb: yeah, for the purposes of the cash prize
- 19:53:56 [AaronSw]
- if your comb can convince me it's a person.
- 19:54:20 [sbp]
- so if my comb could just whip your butt at chess, poetry, and current events... Hmm...
- 19:55:01 [sbp]
- ah, perhaps we can go about this another way! feed Aaron some psychadelic drugs, and then his view of perception may be changed such that he believes that the comb is a person. Would you fork out them money then?
- 19:55:10 [AaronSw]
- heh
- 19:55:59 [sbp]
- how about if I graft some arms and legs onto it? You might believe it's HTML then
- 19:56:19 [sbp]
- (or a hamburger)
- 19:56:47 [AaronSw]
- :-)
- 19:58:43 [sbp]
- Gotta run
- 20:05:56 [Morbus]
- i get the most joy when i get spam with a subject of "Video Professor can teach you computers at no cost!"
- 20:06:14 [Morbus]
- i just get a chuckle. i dunno.
- 20:28:53 [sbp]
- Chandler: And it's O.K. because I've got the boat
- 20:28:55 [sbp]
- heh, Friends still rocks IMO
- 20:34:53 [sbp]
- * sbp listens to MacArthur Park
- 20:35:53 [AaronSw]
- is melting in the dark... all the sweet green icing flowing down!
- 20:38:25 [sbp]
- better than some of my lyrics, though, so who am I to criticize? :-)
- 20:38:44 [Morbus]
- ooh. could i write lyrics?
- 20:38:53 [sbp]
- could you?
- 20:38:58 [Morbus]
- we could be in a band!
- 20:39:04 [sbp]
- * sbp listens to Can You Please Crawl Out Your Window?
- 20:39:05 [Morbus]
- we'll call it Stupid Berry Pickers and the Jam Machine!
- 20:39:15 [sbp]
- now there's a lyric...
- 20:39:25 [sbp]
- "cursing the dead that can't answer him back"
- 20:39:31 [sbp]
- "you know that he has no intentions"
- 20:39:46 [sbp]
- JM?
- 20:39:50 [Morbus]
- no menstruation, no constitapation.
- 20:39:57 [sbp]
- heh
- 20:40:03 [sbp]
- JM: have you turned into Joni Mitchell?
- 20:40:15 [sbp]
- (that would be useful from a songwriting POV)
- 20:40:21 [Morbus]
- hehehe
- 20:40:56 [AaronSw]
- [grunge beat. bang bang bang] i want. to eat. jam. [bang bang bang]
- 20:41:23 [sbp]
- heh, Aaron's description of grunge: "bang bang bang"
- 20:41:39 [AaronSw]
- heh, that was just the percussion
- 20:41:51 [sbp]
- where'd the bass and guitar go to?
- 20:42:06 [sbp]
- damn prepositions
- 20:42:42 [AaronSw]
- hm, now the mailman is here
- 20:42:54 [AaronSw]
- there's probably important stuff sitting outside the door, i will go get it
- 20:42:56 [sbp]
- tell him to bite your dog
- 20:43:06 [Morbus]
- i'm getting my new machine next week.
- 20:44:37 [sbp]
- what does it do?
- 20:44:54 [Morbus]
- i don't know yet.
- 20:45:02 [Morbus]
- probably not much of anything since it comes preinstalled with win2000.
- 20:47:46 [sbp]
- heh. put it in a gnuifier
- 20:55:16 [Morbus]
- WHO LIKES FISHES WHEN THEY'RE SO DELICIOUS?!
- 20:57:07 [sbp]
- Gotta run
- 21:00:19 [AaronSw]
- hm, new amazon feature: "What's Your Advice?"
- 21:00:33 [Morbus]
- what's the point?
- 21:00:55 [AaronSw]
- tell them books that go well with x, or replace x
- 21:01:05 [Morbus]
- ah.
- 21:01:20 [Morbus]
- so, its kinda like purchase data mining without the purchase.
- 21:01:33 [AaronSw]
- yep
- 21:05:30 [davb]
- cool
- 21:05:31 [Morbus]
- i like their recommendation system.
- 21:05:35 [Morbus]
- i think it works really really well.
- 21:05:40 [Morbus]
- i'd emulate it myself.
- 21:05:59 [AaronSw]
- their system only works because they got loads of data!
- 21:06:37 [davb]
- AaronSw: good point.
- 21:06:55 [AaronSw]
- heh
- 21:07:00 [davb]
- so we need a way to feed google that kind of info. then you could just web search for it.
- 21:07:17 [Morbus]
- daypop is doing something like that.
- 21:07:18 [AaronSw]
- yeah. maybe if everyone put the books they had up in rdf...
- 21:07:20 [davb]
- or something like that.
- 21:07:21 [Morbus]
- they're sucking down wishlist data.
- 21:07:29 [AaronSw]
- yeah
- 21:07:34 [davb]
- neat.
- 21:07:34 [AaronSw]
- .google daypop wishlist
- 21:07:35 [xena]
- daypop wishlist: http://www.daypop.com/wishlist
- 21:07:40 [Morbus]
- AaronSw, you saw about that xml stuff on syndic8 right?
- 21:07:43 [Morbus]
- for amazon?
- 21:07:45 [AaronSw]
- yes
- 21:10:20 [Morbus]
- holy crap.
- 21:10:25 [Morbus]
- it's gonna be disobey's five year anniversay soon.
- 21:16:03 [Ash]
- userland sucks
- 21:16:05 [Ash]
- hehe
- 21:16:20 [Ash]
- USERLAND: PROUDLY CELEBRATING FOUR YEARS OF DAVE'S SHITTY WEBLOG
- 21:16:27 [Ash]
- er
- 21:16:34 [Ash]
- USERLAND: PROUDLY CELEBRATING FOUR YEARS OF DAVE'S SHITTY XML-RPC THING
- 21:16:54 [Ash]
- comments are for wusses
- 21:16:55 [Ash]
- hehe
- 21:17:45 [Morbus]
- oh my god.
- 21:17:48 [Morbus]
- that is the most hid...
- 21:17:52 [Morbus]
- damn you AaronSw, damn you to hell!
- 21:18:03 [Ash]
- LOL
- 21:18:04 [AaronSw]
- * AaronSw looks innocent and confused
- 21:18:09 [Ash]
- * Ash makes one with the disobey.com logo
- 21:18:15 [Morbus]
- lol!!! noooOO!
- 21:18:24 [Ash]
- HEE HEE
- 21:19:36 [Morbus]
- the hell.
- 21:19:40 [Morbus]
- i just got a resume to work at disobey.
- 21:19:46 [Morbus]
- from some guy.
- 21:19:54 [Morbus]
- [[[
- 21:19:54 [Morbus]
- I am the author of FTPPro, which currently has more than two million users.
- 21:19:55 [Morbus]
- My resume (at the bottom of this letter) includes recommendations from eight
- 21:19:55 [Morbus]
- companies.
- 21:19:55 [Morbus]
- ]]]
- 21:20:12 [AaronSw]
- what's he want to do there?
- 21:20:22 [Morbus]
- ... i don't know.
- 21:20:25 [Morbus]
- Please call me if you should require my services.
- 21:20:32 [Morbus]
- help me hunt this down:
- 21:20:32 [Morbus]
- Referred by FlipDog.com: id#057905
- 21:20:34 [AaronSw]
- resume spam!
- 21:20:39 [Morbus]
- yeah, no shit.
- 21:21:39 [Ash]
- lol!
- 21:23:33 [Ash]
- LOL
- 21:23:39 [Ash]
- I didn't know disobey.com was a company.
- 21:23:50 [Morbus]
- yup. dba in nh.
- 21:23:56 [AaronSw]
- i didn't know that
- 21:24:05 [Morbus]
- oh. well, there ya go.
- 21:24:08 [AaronSw]
- oh, that's why you're doing the movie thing
- 21:24:18 [Morbus]
- huh? movie ... oooh.
- 21:24:19 [Morbus]
- no, pfff.
- 21:24:23 [Morbus]
- no, that's a freelance under the table thing.
- 21:24:26 [AaronSw]
- oh
- 21:24:27 [Morbus]
- friend to friend.
- 21:24:31 [AaronSw]
- so what do you mean by dba?
- 21:24:34 [Morbus]
- doing business as.
- 21:24:40 [Morbus]
- its just so i can use disobey as a tradename.
- 21:24:49 [AaronSw]
- oh
- 21:24:50 [Morbus]
- i can write checks as Disobey, advertise as Disobey, etc.
- 21:24:55 [Ash]
- cool
- 21:25:08 [AaronSw]
- what do you do?
- 21:25:14 [Morbus]
- hmm?
- 21:25:23 [Morbus]
- what do you mean?
- 21:25:56 [AaronSw]
- does the company do anything?
- 21:26:09 [Morbus]
- not anything more than what you know of at disobey/gamegrene.
- 21:26:14 [Morbus]
- it doesnt' do anything real world wise.
- 21:26:20 [Morbus]
- anything I do freelance is under the table stuff.
- 21:26:42 [Morbus]
- i don't push disobey as a real world entity around here.
- 21:26:45 [Morbus]
- it'd merely piss me off.
- 21:26:55 [Morbus]
- people around here are rather closed minded. they'd look at the name, and ignore everything else.
- 21:27:06 [Morbus]
- regardless of that, i have been mentinoed in a few papers/tech magazines local around here.
- 21:27:13 [Morbus]
- had the front page of the paper a few years back.
- 21:29:33 [Morbus]
- why do you ask?
- 21:30:16 [AaronSw]
- heh
- 21:30:25 [AaronSw]
- i'm just curious... i generally expect companies to do stuff
- 21:30:44 [Morbus]
- ah. what, amphetadesk, gamegrene, et. al isn't "stuff"?
- 21:31:11 [AaronSw]
- i didn't mean it that way... i mean, i have websites and code, but i don't have a real company
- 21:31:28 [AaronSw]
- I guess gamegrene generates revenue...
- 21:31:37 [Morbus]
- ah. you expect me to have an office, a tangible product, etc?
- 21:31:42 [AaronSw]
- yeah
- 21:32:11 [Morbus]
- ah.
- 21:32:19 [Morbus]
- well, i could make a fake screenshot of an amphetadesk box.
- 21:32:23 [Morbus]
- woudl that help?
- 21:32:23 [AaronSw]
- heh heh
- 21:32:35 [AaronSw]
- you need to update your (C)1997-2001 logo, btw
- 21:32:42 [davb]
- davb has quit ()
- 21:32:44 [AaronSw]
- it's so 2001
- 21:33:22 [sbp]
- * sbp reckons that disobeyt is the pinnacle of an underground network dealing in extortion, prositution, loans, gambling, and Pokemon bootlegs
- 21:34:32 [Ash]
- http://pukka.dyndns.org/~ash/thedisobeyMan.gif
- 21:34:44 [AaronSw]
- heh!
- 21:35:00 [Ash]
- Granted, it's a pretty bad logo.
- 21:35:03 [Ash]
- But Gimp sucks ass.
- 21:35:32 [AaronSw]
- what's his slogan?
- 21:35:47 [Ash]
- i dunno
- 21:35:53 [Ash]
- I just figured I'd change it a little
- 21:35:53 [AaronSw]
- "Disobey, kids."
- 21:36:06 [Ash]
- I don't know who these graphics idiots are that do dave's "Graphics"
- 21:36:07 [Ash]
- they all suck
- 21:36:30 [Ash]
- like those button things for pike.. lol
- 21:37:31 [AaronSw]
- * AaronSw unleashes torrent of email upon sbp
- 21:38:05 [sbp]
- the disobey dude is decent
- 21:38:34 [sbp]
- Uh oh
- 21:40:38 [redmonk]
- the xmlrpc dude was done by mike "black-hole brain" donnelan
- 21:41:10 [Ash]
- ah
- 21:41:14 [Ash]
- how annoying is that
- 21:41:21 [Ash]
- (the xmlrpc man)
- 21:41:31 [redmonk]
- very
- 21:41:47 [redmonk]
- cf http://www.xmlrpc.com/xmlRpcMan
- 21:42:07 [redmonk]
- * redmonk vommits
- 21:42:12 [redmonk]
- er
- 21:42:14 [Ash]
- uh
- 21:42:14 [redmonk]
- * redmonk vomits
- 21:42:14 [Ash]
- oh man
- 21:42:19 [Ash]
- you've got to be kidding me
- 21:42:33 [Ash]
- * Ash starts working on the spec for the forked XML-RPC 1.0
- 21:42:50 [Ash]
- * Ash dies laughing
- 21:42:53 [Ash]
- "Artist"
- 21:42:58 [Ash]
- ahahahahaha
- 21:42:59 [redmonk]
- *splutch*
- 21:43:12 [sbp]
- heh
- 21:43:24 [Ash]
- I love it when graphic designers call themselves "artists"
- 21:43:30 [Ash]
- I almost bust up laughing when they do that.
- 21:44:47 [redmonk]
- are you an "Arrteeest" Ash?
- 21:45:11 [Ash]
- redmonk: No, but I'm an art bigot thanks to my dad
- 21:45:12 [Ash]
- heh heh
- 21:45:20 [Ash]
- My dad's a painter
- 21:45:41 [Ash]
- A good one, luckily enough.. so I know what's good art and what's not.
- 21:45:45 [Ash]
- To some degree. Hehehe.
- 21:46:00 [Ash]
- (I'm a musician myself, I didn't get the painting gene :( )
- 21:46:12 [redmonk]
- ah
- 21:46:26 [Ash]
- i've been to more art shows and galleries than I can count
- 21:46:26 [Ash]
- heh
- 21:46:36 [sbp]
- 5?
- 21:46:42 [Ash]
- heh
- 21:46:44 [redmonk]
- lol
- 21:47:07 [Ash]
- * Ash can't grok 6 :-(
- 21:47:43 [sbp]
- it's one of the square roots of 36
- 21:47:47 [sbp]
- not that that helps
- 21:47:50 [redmonk]
- one of?
- 21:47:57 [sbp]
- yeah
- 21:48:00 [Morbus]
- copyright: yeah, i know. i've been entwined.
- 21:48:20 [Morbus]
- i can't believe you fucking made a disobey man.
- 21:48:26 [Morbus]
- holy bat turd, robin.
- 21:48:29 [AaronSw]
- heh: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-webont-wg/2002Apr/0026.html
- 21:48:32 [Morbus]
- where's my DDOS kit?
- 21:48:35 [sbp]
- heh, heh
- 21:49:04 [AaronSw]
- "Web Ontology Naming Status
- 21:49:04 [AaronSw]
- Pronounced: "The Ontology Formerly Known as OWL"
- 21:49:10 [Morbus]
- wait, is this one angrier than the dave winer one?
- 21:49:10 [AaronSw]
- JJC: "FOWL?"
- 21:49:25 [Ash]
- Morbus: This one's hopped up on crystal meth, can't you tell?
- 21:49:35 [Ash]
- <thedisobeyman> RAWR
- 21:49:38 [Morbus]
- hehehe.
- 21:49:44 [Morbus]
- we need to give him horns.
- 21:49:58 [Morbus]
- and a pitchfork.
- 21:50:02 [Morbus]
- then i'll post it on disobey.
- 21:50:03 [Ash]
- the disobey man is also a porn star
- 21:50:05 [Morbus]
- with no link back to winer.
- 21:50:08 [Morbus]
- and see if he bitches.
- 21:50:12 [Morbus]
- then i can bitch at him ala winerlog.
- 21:50:18 [Ash]
- lol
- 21:50:48 [Ash]
- snag it and modify it, I've unfortunately not got photoshop at work.
- 21:50:52 [Ash]
- Or at home, for that matter. Heh.
- 21:51:07 [Ash]
- make a better 'disobey' logo on there. I don't have antialiased fonts.
- 21:51:25 [Morbus]
- yer gonna make me startup Classic? god damn you man, how low can you go?
- 21:51:29 [Ash]
- ha ha
- 21:51:43 [Ash]
- What, you don't have a warez'd copy of Photoshop for OS X?
- 21:51:44 [Ash]
- hehe
- 21:51:56 [Morbus]
- ash, is that you on this stupid webcams.html in your directory?
- 21:52:04 [Ash]
- Morbus: I dunno
- 21:52:07 [Ash]
- probably
- 21:52:12 [redmonk]
- beta
- 21:52:48 [Ash]
- Woah, I didn't know that directory was listable
- 21:52:49 [Ash]
- doh
- 21:52:50 [Ash]
- hehe
- 21:52:52 [Morbus]
- hehehe.
- 21:52:54 [Morbus]
- damn!
- 21:53:02 [Morbus]
- must quickly... check... all... things!
- 21:53:05 [Ash]
- http://pukka.dyndns.org/~ash/desk.jpg
- 21:53:06 [Ash]
- that's my desk
- 21:53:20 [Ash]
- or was
- 21:53:35 [AaronSw]
- heh: "WRITE CODE"
- 21:54:24 [redmonk]
- mmm, daft punk
- 21:54:28 [Ash]
- AaronSw: Yeah, it was to remind me
- 21:54:29 [Ash]
- hehe
- 21:55:17 [Morbus]
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- 21:55:27 [sbp]
- heh, that OWL logo is great
- 21:55:44 [Ash]
- AaronSw: And I actually did get a lot of hacking done during that time period (my wife was away at uni for a semester)
- 21:56:03 [Morbus]
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- 21:56:33 [Morbus]
- grimb;e
- 21:56:39 [Ash]
- hey MORBUS
- 21:56:41 [Ash]
- welcome back
- 21:56:46 [Morbus]
- hi ASH.
- 21:57:02 [Morbus]
- sonuvabitch!
- 21:57:13 [Morbus]
- get that zerobyte index outta here!
- 21:57:16 [Morbus]
- i wasn't done, you hoe.
- 21:57:23 [Ash]
- LOL!
- 21:57:39 [Ash]
- * Ash pet pet touch(1)
- 21:57:43 [Morbus]
- hehehe.
- 21:58:03 [Morbus]
- i was gonna submit it to warbrowsing.com too.
- 21:58:11 [Morbus]
- but now look what you've done!
- 21:58:22 [Ash]
- Yes, that's a particularly horrible photo of me in the webcams.html there
- 21:58:42 [AaronSw]
- ooh, weblog: http://pukka.dyndns.org/~ash/status.html
- 21:59:08 [Morbus]
- the glasses guy or the funny hair guy?
- 21:59:36 [Ash]
- glasses.
- 21:59:47 [Morbus]
- BWAHAHAHAHAHAH
- 21:59:50 [Ash]
- AaronSw: yeah, one of those too. OLD.
- 21:59:52 [Morbus]
- * Morbus points and laughs.
- 21:59:54 [Morbus]
- god, i was hoping that was you.
- 21:59:59 [Morbus]
- <G>
- 22:00:04 [Ash]
- Heh.
- 22:00:04 [Morbus]
- kidding. :)
- 22:00:08 [Ash]
- * Ash shoots Morbus
- 22:00:10 [Ash]
- hehehehe
- 22:00:12 [Morbus]
- * Morbus respawns
- 22:00:34 [redmonk]
- * redmonk wakes up - hey, that's my job!
- 22:00:40 [redmonk]
- * redmonk warms up railgun
- 22:00:49 [Morbus]
- * Morbus lags in preparation
- 22:01:02 [redmonk]
- *fwom!*
- 22:01:05 [redmonk]
- *splutch*
- 22:01:08 [sbp]
- *splutch*
- 22:01:08 [Morbus]
- * Morbus respawns
- 22:01:32 [Ash]
- AaronSw: That was for my friends at work to keep track of me while I was working at home. Heh.
- 22:01:55 [Morbus]
- i bet they had an algorithm too.
- 22:02:09 [Morbus]
- "unless ($four_eyes) { fire("ash"); }
- 22:02:32 [Morbus]
- actually, youknow, you don't hear the four eyes insult much anymore.
- 22:02:44 [Morbus]
- probably cos there are so many people with glasses, or contacts have made them passe.
- 22:02:52 [Morbus]
- what other insults have fallen by the wayside?
- 22:04:05 [Ash]
- It's because more people have glasses now
- 22:04:08 [Ash]
- imo
- 22:04:21 [Ash]
- I think that back further in time more people just lived with having poor vision
- 22:04:30 [Ash]
- i know people now who aren't even 20/40 and have glasses
- 22:04:31 [Ash]
- heh
- 22:04:42 [sbp]
- soon, people will be taking the piss out of those who don't have glasses
- 22:05:35 [Morbus]
- i need glasses badly.
- 22:05:38 [Morbus]
- i just can't afford them.
- 22:05:48 [Morbus]
- AaronSw, not too too good, but whatever: http://www.westwind.com/reference/OS-X/invisibles.html
- 22:05:58 [Morbus]
- nothing we don't already know
- 22:06:24 [sbp]
- too too? is that what the Morbus Dancers wear?
- 22:06:28 [Ash]
- http://jeffcovey.net/tmp/HK40K.jpg
- 22:06:28 [Ash]
- heh
- 22:07:04 [sbp]
- ooh, you hav ea guitar-on-stand
- 22:07:13 [sbp]
- man, I should really get a stand
- 22:09:00 [Morbus]
- http://www.dvdtracks.com/
- 22:11:34 [sbp]
- don't be such a frog-shaped electric can opener. We all know that
- 22:11:55 [Morbus]
- pff.
- 22:11:56 [Morbus]
- well, finel
- 22:12:00 [Morbus]
- see if I care.
- 22:12:29 [Morbus]
- mmm:http://mitpress.mit.edu/sicp/full-text/book/book.html
- 22:13:26 [Ash]
- Morbus: more mmmmage over at paulgraham.com
- 22:13:28 [Ash]
- he has On Lisp up
- 22:13:35 [Ash]
- in pdf and html iirc
- 22:15:04 [sbp]
- wow, cool cover
- 22:15:26 [sbp]
- (which is, I think, what Morbus was referring to)
- 22:15:45 [Morbus]
- well, the book itself as well interests me ;)
- 22:15:55 [sbp]
- of course
- 22:19:07 [Morbus]
- oh yeah, AaronSw, that plugin idea on Ampheta. it's been expanded enough so that it'll be very easy for me to say "hey! is blogifyYourPage down? check voidstar.com. is that down? use our internal parser in this plugin here"
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- 22:23:19 [redmonk]
- hey morb - you get more time to hack on amph?
- 22:23:27 [Morbus]
- pfff. nope.
- 22:23:32 [redmonk]
- pisser
- 22:23:34 [redmonk]
- oh well
- 22:23:37 [Morbus]
- even if i did, i'm not in the mood too.
- 22:23:42 [redmonk]
- i hear ya
- 22:25:47 [AaronSw]
- whoa, morbus. looking at LISP books?
- 22:25:48 [AaronSw]
- weird
- 22:26:04 [Morbus]
- huh? i'm not looking at lisp books.
- 22:26:15 [AaronSw]
- sicp is a LISP book
- 22:26:17 [AaronSw]
- @ http://www.dvdtracks.com/help/about.php
- 22:26:24 [AaronSw]
- <Morbus> mmm:http://mitpress.mit.edu/sicp/full-text/book/book.html
- 22:26:28 [Morbus]
- oh.
- 22:26:33 [Ash]
- AaronSw: Scheme != Lisp ;-)
- 22:26:34 [AaronSw]
- unless that's a new mmm: URI scheme
- 22:26:46 [Ash]
- We've had this discussion on c.l.l 5 bajillion times
- 22:26:47 [Ash]
- hehe
- 22:26:47 [Morbus]
- i was more looking at it from a theory point of view, not, ooh, masterbation!
- 22:26:51 [AaronSw]
- Ash, close enough for government^WDARPA work
- 22:26:55 [chumpster]
- C: http://www.dvdtracks.com/help/about.php from AaronSw
- 22:26:58 [Ash]
- AaronSw: RAWR
- 22:27:10 [AaronSw]
- C:|DVD Tracks
- 22:27:16 [Ash]
- Schemers want to dis cl but still claim to be 'lisp'
- 22:27:23 [Ash]
- :)
- 22:27:26 [chumpster]
- titled item C
- 22:27:45 [AaronSw]
- C::random people create their own special DVD commentary tracks. cool!
- 22:28:02 [chumpster]
- commented item C
- 22:28:31 [Morbus]
- man, this cd catapult is funny.
- 22:28:37 [Morbus]
- C::It's very MST3Kish.
- 22:28:53 [chumpster]
- commented item C
- 22:29:10 [AaronSw]
- who was it that linked to the ebert piece? i think it was wmf
- 22:30:11 [AaronSw]
- i wonder when he'll get internet back
- 22:30:48 [Ash]
- there's no internet on that side of the tracks
- 22:30:49 [Ash]
- hehe
- 22:31:19 [Morbus]
- god, this is so funny: http://lart.badf00d.org/project1.html
- 22:31:24 [Morbus]
- old link, but just barely reading it now.
- 22:31:27 [AaronSw]
- <NickServ> Notice: Last Seen: 1 week 1 day (18h 38m 52s) ago
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- <NickServ> Notice: Last Seen Quit Msg: "pack the planet"
- 22:32:41 [Ash]
- Morbus: yeah, it's good
- 22:32:44 [Ash]
- * Ash hugs a.s.r
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- 23:48:57 [AaronSw]
- Morbus? what's a "perl text file" or a "Perl record set"
- 23:49:57 [Ash]
- lol
- 23:50:08 [AaronSw]
- what?
- 23:50:09 [Ash]
- http://www.kmov.com/news/News_OffBeat/kmov_offbeatnews_020402_radioprank.38e3e5e4.html
- 23:50:23 [AaronSw]
- oh, i thought you were laughing a tmy question
- 23:50:26 [Ash]
- Jerald Robnett, the city's superintendent of water protection, said his department received calls from 150 customers Monday after KQRC reported the water contained "high levels of a naturally occurring substance," dihydrogen monoxide, that causes increased urination, profuse sweating and wrinkling of hands and feet. Boiling the water long enough would get rid of the substance, however.
- 23:50:27 [Ash]
- no
- 23:50:29 [Ash]
- but that's funny
- 23:50:31 [Ash]
- ha ha ha
- 23:50:36 [Ash]
- dihydrogen monoxide
- 23:50:38 [Ash]
- perfect
- 23:50:46 [AaronSw]
- heh heh
- 23:51:31 [AaronSw]
- lol, aka H2O
- 23:53:38 [Morbus]
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- 23:54:34 [AaronSw]
- deus_x, you do perl, right? what's a perl record set?
- 23:55:38 [Ash]
- perl record set?
- 23:55:41 [Ash]
- Is it a DBI file?
- 23:55:59 [AaronSw]
- i don't think so, they say it's just a "perl text file"
- 23:56:57 [Ash]
- weird