IRC log of swhack on 2002-03-27

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03:26:40 [logster]
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03:26:40 [vinge.openprojects.net]
topic is: Welcome back, calliope!
03:26:40 [vinge.openprojects.net]
Users on #swhack: logster chumpster xena oierw` eikeon walloper deltab tansaku AaronSw sbp deus_x notZakim logster-bak
03:26:50 [AaronSw]
* AaronSw bows
03:27:09 [sbp]
phew
03:27:22 [sbp]
now transfer the logs, restart things
03:27:27 [sbp]
and you're done
04:02:56 [AaronSw]
heh, deus_x got linked to
04:09:12 [sbp]
* sbp searches for his full name on Google - no matches! Woohoo!
04:27:35 [sbp]
Hmph, I'm so hungry...
04:40:52 [sbp]
Gotta run
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04:57:49 [AaronSw]
hey redmonk, wmf was looking for you
04:57:57 [redmonk]
ok...
04:58:00 [AaronSw]
i think he wanted someone to distract him from packing ;)
04:58:04 [redmonk]
heh
04:59:24 [redmonk]
really - any idea what e wanted?
04:59:28 [redmonk]
er, he
05:00:36 [AaronSw]
i told you what I thought he wanted
05:00:46 [redmonk]
ah. just checking
05:01:02 [AaronSw]
unless you're really good at AYB/packing puns
05:01:23 [redmonk]
all your space are belong to us?
05:01:33 [AaronSw]
pack the planet
05:01:38 [redmonk]
lol
05:01:48 [redmonk]
that's the best
05:01:50 [redmonk]
you win
05:01:53 [AaronSw]
heh
05:02:04 [AaronSw]
i stole it from wmf
05:02:16 [redmonk]
heh
05:02:18 [redmonk]
cool
05:02:22 [redmonk]
we deploy ton ight!!
05:02:27 [redmonk]
aaaauuugh!!!
05:02:27 [AaronSw]
whee!
05:02:37 [AaronSw]
now is when you find the major design flaws
05:02:42 [redmonk]
* redmonk runs in circles, gesticulating
05:02:44 [redmonk]
of course
05:02:54 [redmonk]
found on alreay but i don't think i can fix it
05:02:57 [redmonk]
already
05:03:05 [redmonk]
not horrible, but very inefficient
05:03:10 [redmonk]
anyway - gotta run
05:03:14 [redmonk]
NO DISTRACTIONS!!
05:03:17 [redmonk]
;-)
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wave bye-bye to logster-bak
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* AaronSw sets up http://notabug.com/ with cool grunge look
06:14:50 [AaronSw]
ok, time to paste all the stuff we've been missing...
06:15:15 [AaronSw]
@ http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/020319/168/19xte.html
06:15:40 [AaronSw]
AaronSw has changed the topic to: Welcome back, calliope! Now it's time for chump-o-rama!
06:15:48 [AaronSw]
@ http://www.theatlantic.com/issues/2002/04/rauch.htm
06:15:51 [chumpster]
A: http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/020319/168/19xte.html from AaronSw
06:15:58 [AaronSw]
@ http://wmf.editthispage.com/discuss/msgReader$7284
06:16:08 [AaronSw]
A:from sbp, 2002-03-20
06:16:16 [AaronSw]
A::from sbp, 2002-03-20
06:16:21 [AaronSw]
A::<sbp> "A full-size fully functional virtual keyboard that can be projected and touched on any surface"
06:16:36 [chumpster]
B: http://www.theatlantic.com/issues/2002/04/rauch.htm from AaronSw
06:16:38 [AaronSw]
@ http://www.alternet.org/story.html?StoryID=12420
06:16:59 [AaronSw]
@ http://bitzi.com/developer/xml
06:17:08 [chumpster]
C: http://wmf.editthispage.com/discuss/msgReader$7284 from AaronSw
06:17:10 [AaronSw]
@ http://www.canonical.org/~kragen/bigdb.html
06:17:16 [AaronSw]
@ http://www.google.com/jobs/britney.html
06:17:21 [AaronSw]
@ http://techlens.cs.umn.edu/techlens/
06:17:25 [chumpster]
commented item A
06:17:26 [AaronSw]
@ http://haughey.com/sxsw/2002/
06:17:33 [AaronSw]
@ http://www.redmonk.net/index/2002/03/26#item1095
06:17:42 [chumpster]
commented item A
06:18:16 [chumpster]
D: http://www.alternet.org/story.html?StoryID=12420 from AaronSw
06:18:29 [AaronSw]
B:via Mark Bernstein
06:18:34 [AaronSw]
B::via Mark Bernstein
06:18:45 [AaronSw]
B:|Seeing Around Corners: New artificial societies
06:18:49 [chumpster]
E: http://bitzi.com/developer/xml from AaronSw
06:18:56 [AaronSw]
C:|NYTimes feeds in RSS
06:19:11 [AaronSw]
D:|Noam Chomsky on the Drug-Terror Link
06:19:17 [chumpster]
F: http://www.canonical.org/~kragen/bigdb.html from AaronSw
06:19:25 [AaronSw]
E::via wmf
06:19:30 [AaronSw]
E:|Bitzi XML Ticket Service
06:19:34 [AaronSw]
F:|Kragen on Big Databases
06:19:45 [AaronSw]
i guess i should move swack to vorpal/notabug.com
06:19:49 [chumpster]
G: http://www.google.com/jobs/britney.html from AaronSw
06:20:16 [AaronSw]
G:|Mispellings Britney Spears in Google Queries
06:20:17 [chumpster]
H: http://techlens.cs.umn.edu/techlens/ from AaronSw
06:20:27 [AaronSw]
H:|TechLens: Collaboratively filtered research papers
06:20:49 [chumpster]
I: http://haughey.com/sxsw/2002/ from AaronSw
06:20:58 [AaronSw]
I:|Matt Haughey: SXSW 2002
06:21:04 [AaronSw]
I::Includes Steve Mann footage
06:21:18 [chumpster]
J: http://www.redmonk.net/index/2002/03/26#item1095 from AaronSw
06:21:32 [AaronSw]
J:|Stupid Political Stuff
06:21:35 [chumpster]
commented item B
06:21:38 [AaronSw]
J::#swhack makes redmonk.net
06:21:52 [chumpster]
titled item B
06:22:08 [AaronSw]
A:|Projection Keyboard
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titled item C
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titled item D
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commented item E
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titled item E
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titled item F
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titled item G
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titled item H
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titled item I
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commented item I
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titled item J
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commented item J
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titled item A
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streeetch
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09:59:40 [sbp]
cool, chumpster and logster are back
11:09:28 [sbp]
@ http://www.virtualtimes.com/writers/harper/ianap01.htm
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[prod]
11:10:01 [chumpster]
K: http://www.virtualtimes.com/writers/harper/ianap01.htm from sbp
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K:|I Am Not A Pig
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titled item K
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11:42:38 [sbp]
http://www.zmag.org/GlobalWatch/chomskymit.htm is a good article/transcription (via. Aaron)
11:43:13 [sbp]
the bit about the liberals not choosing to understand the reason behind the terrorism is quite weird, though
11:43:54 [sbp]
I would have thought it's because those out on the left are in a vulnerable position
11:44:54 [sbp]
usually, they can be extreme in saying whatever they want... but now, when people expect them to, they can't because there's a lot of emotion, and a lot of misplaced persecution for siding with the terrorists, even if they aren't isding - just looking for reasons
12:02:38 [sbp]
@ http://web.archive.org/web/20000229083850/http://www.santafe.edu/~shalizi/Russell/Hearst_Essays/On_Sales_Resistance.html
12:03:13 [chumpster]
L: http://web.archive.org/web/20000229083850/http://www.santafe.edu/~shalizi/Russell/Hearst_Essays/On_Sales_Resistance.html from sbp
12:03:18 [sbp]
L:|"On Sales Resistance"
12:03:28 [sbp]
L::by Bertrand Russell
12:03:34 [chumpster]
titled item L
12:03:44 [sbp]
L::"""In former times, it was thought that bread is baked in order to be eaten; nowadays we think that it is eaten in order to be baked."""
12:03:51 [chumpster]
commented item L
12:04:10 [chumpster]
commented item L
12:08:25 [sbp]
funny that Aaron equates the legislative branch with democratic voting on his homepage
12:09:34 [sbp]
especially seeing as how he went to all the trouble of humourously tying the executive into fighting, and so on
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14:32:44 [sbp]
Hey Morbus, Aaron
14:33:39 [AaronSw]
what's wrong with it?
14:33:56 [AaronSw]
i don't think I was being humorous
14:34:59 [sbp]
sure it is. Most people wouldn't make the comparison, so you can't argue that it's "normal"
14:35:05 [sbp]
I meant: I know you're serious... but it's still funny
14:35:19 [AaronSw]
oh, ok
14:35:44 [AaronSw]
Well, I do see those as the three systems of resolving issues - I can't think of anything else.
14:35:53 [AaronSw]
It was sort of clever of our founders to tie all three together.
14:38:17 [sbp]
whose founders? it's not as if these ideals magiced themselves out of thin air. They come from years of development over in England and France. You guys just got a chance to start anew
14:38:35 [AaronSw]
yeah, well there you go
14:38:39 [AaronSw]
Ian: "Conclusion: Don't pay 5 times the price for crap. Listen to Hugo."
14:38:57 [AaronSw]
why do you think we started anew? because england sucked
14:39:32 [AaronSw]
New watson out: http://www.karelia.com/watson/
14:39:37 [AaronSw]
it's catching up to xena ;-)
14:39:37 [sbp]
hey, we don't suck. We just liked to tax the bollocks off of you all. And frankly, I think you had it coming; running off across the atlantic like that
14:40:15 [AaronSw]
why do you think we ran across the atlantic? [chorus: because you sucked]
14:40:46 [sbp]
Hmm... I always thought it was because there are more potatoes over there
14:41:15 [AaronSw]
ah, could be that too
14:41:30 [AaronSw]
but you'd still suck for not having enough potatoes
14:41:33 [Morbus]
watson looks good, but i don't like the shareware evil of it.
14:41:40 [Morbus]
never used it because of that.
14:41:52 [sbp]
Aaron: then we're agreed :-)
14:42:12 [AaronSw]
Morbus, hey! you use omnioutliner
14:42:29 [Morbus]
yeah, true, but the stuff that watson does isn't anything i can't do on my own.
14:42:43 [AaronSw]
i guess so
14:44:42 [AaronSw]
woo, Matt Haughey is a genius
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(i.e. he agrees with me) ;-)
14:45:16 [sbp]
he
14:45:35 [sbp]
append h, times three, intersperse with commas
14:46:02 [AaronSw]
:-) Actually, I think the thing is that he has taste, so it works out about the same.
14:46:49 [sbp]
.google "Matt Haughey" Genius
14:46:51 [xena]
"Matt Haughey" Genius: http://a.wholelottanothing.org/archived.blah/3/01/2001
14:47:47 [sbp]
heh: "pimps have to eat too"
14:48:11 [sbp]
heh, heh:-
14:48:12 [sbp]
[[[
14:48:13 [sbp]
XML? XSL? XHTML? Semantic web? Huh?
14:48:13 [sbp]
Forget all that. It's about monkey vs robot. That is the explanation for everything.
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]]]
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* sbp listens to "She's Electric"
14:48:31 [AaronSw]
lol
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'lo all
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* eikeon wonders how to turn on timestamps in his IRC client
17:10:35 [Morbus]
what irc client?
17:11:19 [deltab]
ircii - something like /set timestamp on I imagine
17:12:07 [eikeon]
[root@jungle /root]# rpm -qa | grep irc
17:12:09 [eikeon]
ircii-4.4Z-4
17:12:49 [deltab]
ùíù CTCP VERSION reply from eikeon: ircII 4.4Z Linux 2.4.2-2 :ircii 2.9: AT&T
17:12:54 [eikeon]
I should just look for my old .ircrc file... not sure why it is no longer in my home dir
17:22:49 [AaronSw]
* AaronSw looks for the fabled inspector gadget techno remix
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OONTZ OONTZ OONTZ
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'lo?
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18:07:13 [AaronSw]
hi
18:07:20 [redmonk]
hi
18:07:28 [redmonk]
i see the swhack weblog is back!
18:07:36 [redmonk]
likewise blogspace
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;-)
18:07:40 [redmonk]
cool
18:07:41 [AaronSw]
calliope is back :)
18:07:51 [redmonk]
w00t!
18:23:05 [Morbus]
moooOo./
18:24:26 [redmonk]
hi morb
18:24:37 [Morbus]
more work being done on ampheta today.
18:24:38 [Morbus]
yay.
18:24:43 [redmonk]
yay!
18:24:47 [redmonk]
what work?
18:24:55 [Morbus]
more modularization stuff.
18:25:00 [redmonk]
excellent
18:25:07 [Morbus]
we're fiddling with the My Channels stuff, and making that cleaner, faster, etc.
18:25:15 [redmonk]
ah
18:25:28 [Morbus]
once that finishes, we'll have a decent amount of code done for the new Add A Channel stuff, so that should go pretty easily as well.
18:25:29 [redmonk]
sweet
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18:26:34 [sbp]
er... w
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b
18:27:38 [Morbus]
hey sbp. wrong flipping button ;)
18:27:41 [Morbus]
er, keycommand, rather.
18:28:36 [AaronSw]
woo, the Apple "build web page" applescript rocks
18:28:49 [Morbus]
haven't seen it. link?
18:28:57 [AaronSw]
it comes with os x
18:29:05 [AaronSw]
it's in image capture
18:29:07 [Morbus]
ah.
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18:40:25 [sbp]
just surprising that you and rm went at the same time, more or les
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s
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* sbp is too n happ
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y
18:41:08 [Morbus]
heh
18:42:55 [AaronSw]
hm, watson now starts up with an "Understanding Watson" dialog
18:43:14 [AaronSw]
"What you think of as the ³Watson application² may be affected by changes in business models, business closures, changes in acceptable usage terms, etc. As such, Karelia¹s primary goal is to provide Watson users with ever increasing levels of functionality in the face of constant change in the web services landscape."
18:43:59 [Morbus]
whaaa?!
18:44:23 [sbp]
you and your stupid quote characters...
18:45:11 [Morbus]
yeah, i see em to.
18:45:19 [Morbus]
him and his stupid black text in the topic.
18:45:24 [sbp]
:-)
18:45:50 [AaronSw]
hm: http://www.vex.net/parnassus/apyllo.py?i=497721587
18:46:07 [AaronSw]
"Watch him extract jumbled code into well ordered classes. Gasp, as he renames all occurrences of a method. Thank You Bicycle Repair Man!"
18:46:35 [sbp]
heh: "Thank You Bicycle Repair Man!". And Aaron just quoted it. Crud
18:47:04 [redmonk]
mmmmm, burrito
18:47:05 [sbp]
I checked this time!
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wb rm
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thx
18:47:39 [sbp]
no problem at all. glad to be of service
18:47:46 [redmonk]
heh
18:48:09 [Morbus]
speaking of /me abuse:
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[13:48] * llllllll afk for food
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ugh
18:51:02 [AaronSw]
heh: "Naturally, computer translation isn't perfect, but the results will be at most useful, and at least amusing."
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Gotta run
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20:07:39 [redmonk]
heh
20:07:55 [redmonk]
looks like the AZ-NY blogger get-together is growing
20:08:48 [redmonk]
we now have mrbarrett.com, redmonk.net, 120degrees.com, iblog@mac.com, and possibly www.lemurzone.com
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in attendence ;-)
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http://www.redmonk.net/2002/03/22#item1090
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20:55:05 [AaronSw]
there are scientists/theorists/engineers and coders/programmers/hackers. i don't believe our industry has any artists (or 'hackists') yet.
20:55:38 [Morbus]
what about the old demo scene?
20:55:53 [Morbus]
and the ansi / rip / ascii art scene from bbs's.
20:56:08 [AaronSw]
well, the ascii people don't write code
20:56:24 [Morbus]
do they have to?
20:56:36 [Morbus]
technically ansi isn't code either.
20:56:37 [AaronSw]
well, that's what i was referring to by 'our industry'
20:56:44 [AaronSw]
what's ansi?
20:56:46 [Morbus]
unless you start considering the bleeps and so forth.
20:56:56 [Morbus]
if you customize your bash prompt with colors, you're using ansi
20:57:03 [AaronSw]
yeah, that's not code
20:57:07 [Morbus]
stuff like ]32m; is like "blue" or something.
20:57:12 [AaronSw]
in the sense i was considering, at least
20:57:17 [Morbus]
ok. well, then there's still the demo scene.
20:57:45 [AaronSw]
I was actually talking about beautiful works of programming, not programming that created beautiful works of art.
20:57:54 [Morbus]
oh.
20:57:56 [AaronSw]
I guess there is the rare exception: some really clean C or assembler programs, I hear.
20:58:04 [Morbus]
... ... what about perl poetry? which is both programming, and art? ;)
20:58:19 [AaronSw]
it doesn't do anything tho...
20:58:25 [Morbus]
sure, they do.
20:58:37 [Morbus]
damian conway wrote a perl poetry script that generated poetry, and was itself, poetic.
20:58:48 [AaronSw]
that's pretty cool.
20:58:51 [AaronSw]
.google damian perl poetry
20:58:53 [xena]
damian perl poetry: http://www.samag.com/tpj/issues
20:59:09 [Morbus]
boredom note: http://www.hornet.org/
20:59:13 [Morbus]
demo scene archives
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argh.
21:02:13 [MorbusIff]
here's the other one: http://www.hugi.de/main.php?page=hugi
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21:02:36 [MorbusIff]
wasn't damian conway.
21:02:40 [MorbusIff]
http://www.samag.com/documents/s=1274/sam05010012/
21:02:45 [MorbusIff]
ronald kimbal instead
21:02:50 [SeanP]
Grpmgprmgprmgpmph
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21:04:37 [Morbus]
i have the actual issue at home with the code.
21:06:50 [AaronSw]
cool
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sbp joins #infoanarchy and he causes a netsplit, great
21:08:56 [sbp]
not me, guvner
21:09:23 [AaronSw]
.wn fecking
21:09:47 [AaronSw]
The New Yorker used feckless the other day, it was sort of funny.
21:09:52 [sbp]
feck: from Father Ted. Man, I love that show
21:09:55 [sbp]
feckless: heh, heh!
21:09:58 [AaronSw]
'stupid art created by feckless youth' or some suck
21:10:00 [AaronSw]
err such
21:10:09 [AaronSw]
.wn feckless
21:10:10 [xena]
feckless defined as:
21:10:11 [xena]
- adj 1: not fit to assume responsibility
21:10:12 [xena]
- 2: generally incompetent and ineffectual; "feckless attempts to repair the plumbing"; "inept handling of the account" [syn: {inept}]
21:11:14 [sbp]
lol @ some suck
21:11:57 [sbp]
when portmanteaued as "somesuck", that's a great new word
21:14:44 [sbp]
phwoaar, that Morbus is a right piece of ASS
21:14:52 [Morbus]
hey! i don't even know any applescript!
21:15:10 [AaronSw]
* AaronSw chuckles
21:15:17 [sbp]
Apple Script Scripting? heh, heh
21:15:32 [sbp]
[OLM]
21:15:40 [AaronSw]
AS Studio
21:15:49 [sbp]
.google "AS Studio"
21:15:50 [xena]
"AS Studio": http://as-studio.com
21:16:02 [AaronSw]
i meant applescript studio
21:16:11 [Morbus]
way to ruin a joke, sbp, sheesh.
21:16:11 [Morbus]
<G>
21:16:24 [sbp]
sorry. trouble is, it doesn't really work: right bit of AS Studio. Well, perhaps it does
21:17:09 [sbp]
man, I'm gonna owe what's-his-name a quid now
21:17:16 [Morbus]
quidditch?
21:17:24 [sbp]
at least! or a punch in the arm
21:17:29 [AaronSw]
who?
21:17:35 [sbp]
what's-his-name
21:17:59 [AaronSw]
_:what's-his-name ?x ?y ?
21:18:30 [sbp]
?x = :menionedInIRCBy; ?y = [ foaf:nick "sbp" ] .
21:18:50 [Morbus]
^ mentioned
21:18:54 [sbp]
yep
21:19:08 [AaronSw]
thanks for being <sarcasm>soooooooo</> helpful
21:19:11 [sbp]
.wn menion
21:19:27 [sbp]
np
21:19:37 [Morbus]
menion defined as:
21:19:52 [Morbus]
a man minion. a sexist term used in the days of feudal egypt.
21:19:58 [Morbus]
* Morbus shrugs.
21:20:14 [sbp]
* sbp is sneezing, coughing, laughing, and typing
21:20:19 [sbp]
that's a skill
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.spam <theworld@internet> check out the #swhack logs.
21:21:54 [sbp]
nOoO!
21:22:05 [Morbus]
mmm... nooo is the sound of Morbus going all wonky in the humors again
21:22:09 [AaronSw]
whoa, calliope is getting worlddotted
21:22:17 [sbp]
heh, heh, heh
21:22:48 [AaronSw]
sbp and I should switch places on IRC for a day, methinks
21:22:54 [AaronSw]
that'd be funny
21:23:04 [sbp]
no it wouldn't
21:23:09 [sbp]
actually, it might be
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21:23:24 [AaronSw]
i could practice my 'heh, heh, heh' and you could practice your '/me is away: sneezing'
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21:23:37 [AaronSw]
weird
21:23:46 [eikeon]
wowa
21:23:52 [eikeon]
whoa
21:23:55 [AaronSw]
oh! freaky. I'm typing stuff, but Aaron's saying it! aaargh! twilight zone!
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21:24:07 [AaronSw]
frag URIs should be banned forever!
21:24:17 [sbp]
heh, heh, heh
21:24:17 [wkearney99]
i don't think we should ban them.
21:24:25 [eikeon]
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21:24:26 [wkearney99]
maybe we should just stick them in a comment tag.
21:24:43 [AaronSw]
what do you know kearney? you're not even on the RSS-DEV WG thing. I am
21:25:04 [noekie]
lol
21:25:09 [noekie]
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21:25:13 [sbp]
comment tags. Interesting, maybe I will try hacking that up in CWM.
21:25:43 [wkearney99]
well, see, i'm away from the working groups, so i have a better perspective of what's being done.
21:26:07 [wkearney99]
it's much easier to code comment support than uncoding the support, changing DTDs everywhere, you know.
21:26:09 [AaronSw]
this new article by (Lessig|Chomsky|Zooko) is quite interesting
21:26:34 [sbp]
cite?
21:26:52 [AaronSw]
mid:94ut092u4t9u249t24t924ut92w@fakestreet.com
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21:27:52 [AaronSw]
I'm not sure who we all are anymore
21:28:33 [sbp]
that reminds me of a (Beatles|Dylan|randomOldGuy) song
21:28:57 [AaronSw]
I can't spell "stronly" (see my homepage for more details)
21:29:16 [sbp]
it's spelled strongly
21:29:54 [AaronSw]
so what? I built my own server. How dare you question my authoritae?!
21:30:47 [Morbus]
you get your bitchass in the kitchen!
21:31:09 [Morbus]
AaronSw, tell me a dirty secret about yourself.
21:31:23 [AaronSw]
* AaronSw tries to remember if that's Morbus, Kearney, or rm. It sounds like Morbus...
21:31:40 [AaronSw]
I don't have any dirty secrets. I archive my entire life, and put it online for all to see
21:31:48 [AaronSw]
well, all the clean bits, anyway
21:31:51 [AaronSw]
oops. I've said too much
21:31:56 [Morbus]
yeah, i want the dirty bits.
21:32:07 [sbp]
heh, heh, heh
21:32:13 [Morbus]
youknow, the first time you shat yourself, the second time you shat yourself, and so on and so forth.
21:32:40 [sbp]
* sbp creates a infomesh.net/2002/03/27/12/42/37/aaronsw/dirtysecrets/ page
21:33:09 [AaronSw]
make sure you keep it - don't you take it down, or I'm telling your mom!
21:33:16 [Morbus]
that's right!
21:33:19 [Morbus]
cos once you create it...
21:36:59 [AaronSw]
I should get started on PyBlogspace again
21:37:28 [sbp]
again? Did I ever start in the first place?
21:37:53 [AaronSw]
no, you didn't start it, I did. Me. Aaron
21:38:56 [AaronSw]
So, Sean, written any new songs today?
21:39:28 [sbp]
well, I've written several short bits -- I'm working on combining them now.
21:40:11 [Morbus]
AaronSw: we were talking about this earlier: http://www.chc-3.com/pub/beautifulsoftware.htm
21:40:15 [Morbus]
well, the concept, at least.
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21:41:07 [sbp]
right now, I'm working on getting CWM to generate MIDI files
21:41:11 [AaronSw]
Interesting:-
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[[[
21:41:13 [AaronSw]
Excuse me, computational hypertext, if you mean what we called "virtual
21:41:13 [AaronSw]
hypertext"
21:41:13 [AaronSw]
was introduced in the form of the CERN phone book in in 1991 before the web
21:41:13 [AaronSw]
software was announced on usenet. What was introduced in 1993?
21:41:18 [AaronSw]
]]] - http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-tag/2002Mar/0257
21:41:38 [AaronSw]
You and your crazy projects.
21:41:48 [Morbus]
huh?
21:42:06 [AaronSw]
To sbp.
21:42:27 [redmonk]
* redmonk was daydreaming about using macromedia director to generate hypertextual animations with the lyrics to songs by parsing the rdf from...
21:42:36 [redmonk]
that music site.
21:42:45 [redmonk]
damn can't remember the name
21:42:58 [AaronSw]
<sarcasm>By the way, I've decided to use sbp's quoting style, because it's clearly much better than mine.</>
21:43:05 [Morbus]
heh, heh.
21:43:15 [sbp]
it's good to see you've finally come around.
21:43:28 [AaronSw]
rm: MusicBrainz?
21:43:34 [redmonk]
asw:yes
21:43:36 [redmonk]
thx
21:43:50 [AaronSw]
It's the project that I worked on! How could you forget? ;-)
21:44:27 [sbp]
don't worry Aaron, nobody remembers the time I got CWM to make dinner. Sometimes we just have to move on to other projects
21:44:45 [redmonk]
asw: what?
21:46:54 [AaronSw]
MusicBrainz is the project that I helped with. See: http://logicerror.com/musicbrainzArticle
21:47:04 [redmonk]
ah! did not know that
21:47:14 [redmonk]
you get your hands in everything, aaron
21:47:39 [AaronSw]
I try my best.
21:48:06 [redmonk]
including oopblick
21:48:10 [redmonk]
hahaha
21:48:16 [redmonk]
that's programming goo
21:48:18 [sbp]
heh, heh!
21:48:32 [AaronSw]
The MB article was published in IEEE, in fact.
21:48:38 [AaronSw]
Did you download the movie?
21:48:57 [redmonk]
* redmonk quotes TPB: "yes, you're very smart. shut up."
21:49:01 [redmonk]
yeah
21:49:02 [AaronSw]
logicerror.com is a bit slow - can someone try hitting it for me?
21:49:03 [redmonk]
cute
21:49:09 [redmonk]
i am - and yes it's slow
21:49:19 [AaronSw]
I'll have to sort that out.
21:49:22 [sbp]
hitting it? won't that hurt the prescious data?
21:50:00 [AaronSw]
Not hitting it *hitting* it, silly!
21:50:24 [AaronSw]
Ahem. Aaron Swartz, "MusicBrainz: A Semantic Web Service", IEEE Intelligent Systems, Jan/Feb 2002, pp. 76-77. (PDF, old HTML).
21:50:29 [AaronSw]
;-)
21:52:13 [sbp]
Aaron, how come http://www.aaronsw.com/about returns XML instead of HTML?
21:52:24 [sbp]
I have to add the .html as in http://www.aaronsw.com/about.html
21:52:50 [AaronSw]
Why not? I can submit it to DanBri's FOAF database then.
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21:53:06 [sbp]
well, you could by adding .xrdf
21:53:49 [eikeon]
Or do it by content negotiation?
21:54:10 [sbp]
Apache should be doing that...
21:54:13 [AaronSw]
Why add all that extra redundancy?
21:54:24 [AaronSw]
The extension, I mean.
21:54:55 [sbp]
how is it redundant?
21:55:36 [AaronSw]
What's the point in making the URI longer, when I want to serve XML as the default?
21:55:49 [sbp]
why do you want to serve XML as the default?
21:56:00 [sbp]
and oh dear, you're using fragments!
21:56:02 [AaronSw]
Note the Content-Location header.
21:56:26 [AaronSw]
Oops, I've got to go. Dinner
21:56:31 [sbp]
what does that have to do with anything?
21:56:32 [AaronSw]
* AaronSw is away: dinner
21:56:42 [sbp]
oh, feck!
21:56:46 [sbp]
Gotta run
21:59:02 [Morbus]
oh hey, AaronSw or sbp, i had a question.
21:59:04 [Morbus]
mmkay.
21:59:15 [Morbus]
currently, in the ampheta OPML, i use "xmlurl" to represent the URL to the RSS file.
21:59:20 [Morbus]
of course, it starts with http://
21:59:34 [Morbus]
what i'd like to do is have the ability to do something like plugin://pluginname
21:59:48 [redmonk]
hm
21:59:50 [redmonk]
go on
21:59:51 [Morbus]
which would say "hey, we got a scraper named <pluginname> in ~/plugins, so use that for the XML data.
21:59:52 [Morbus]
thoughts?
22:00:29 [redmonk]
what does the plugin scrape?
22:00:32 [redmonk]
just one site?
22:00:52 [AaronSw`]
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22:00:53 [Morbus]
right. there'd be one plugin whose purpose would be to suck down the HTML and create a valid RSS file from it.
22:00:53 [redmonk]
or should it be <pluginname>://source
22:01:02 [AaronSw`]
* AaronSw` waves from the dinnertable
22:01:04 [redmonk]
ah
22:01:05 [redmonk]
hehe
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* redmonk waves, spills drink
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* AaronSw` reads logs
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Ugh, not new URI schemes!
22:01:34 [Morbus]
well, i don't like <pluginname>:// becuase it doesn't adequately say that its a plugin.
22:01:41 [Morbus]
yeah, i knew you'd say that AaronSw`, thats why i was asking.
22:01:52 [redmonk]
fine
22:01:55 [redmonk]
have it your way
22:01:56 [redmonk]
;-)
22:02:02 [Morbus]
i don't want to use :// but that's my intention. so, thoughts?
22:02:12 [AaronSw`]
you can't tell the plugin from the file?
22:02:20 [Morbus]
hmm?
22:02:31 [AaronSw`]
There's no way to tell which plugin to use just by looking at the file?
22:02:32 [Morbus]
like plugin.pl would create a <filename>.rss in the normal place.
22:02:40 [Morbus]
just as if <filename>.rss had been downloaded from the web.
22:02:47 [AaronSw`]
I see...
22:02:53 [Morbus]
instead of GETting the data, we're having the plugin create the rss with a scrape
22:03:19 [redmonk]
morb - why are you using opml - wanted to ask that
22:03:22 [AaronSw`]
You're probably best off with a contenttype attribute with the plugin as a value.
22:03:26 [Morbus]
compatibility with radio userland.
22:03:33 [redmonk]
ah. why?
22:03:56 [Morbus]
because amphetadesk was greatly influenced by the agg. in the first RU release.
22:03:57 [AaronSw`]
I think RU uses something like that... maybe it's nodeType
22:04:05 [Morbus]
and anything I did, I wanted easy swapping between the two.
22:04:11 [redmonk]
cool
22:04:23 [Morbus]
AaronSw, but then that would leave xmlurl blank.
22:04:28 [Morbus]
right. ok.
22:04:32 [Morbus]
so...
22:04:38 [AaronSw`]
Doesn't the plugin need to know a URL to scrape?
22:05:05 [Morbus]
<outline type="plugin.pl" htmlurl="valid URI">
22:05:15 [AaronSw`]
yeah, that looks good
22:05:21 [Morbus]
k.
22:05:28 [Morbus]
plugins may be in the next version, btw :)
22:05:48 [Morbus]
basically, with the outlne above, there'd also be a filename="" attribute.
22:06:16 [Morbus]
as long as the plugin could be "run" by AmphetaDesk, passed the (htmlurl, filename) as parameters, then the internals wouldn't matter.
22:06:36 [Morbus]
the plugin would be expected to save the rss into ~/channels/filename and that'd be it.
22:07:45 [Morbus]
thoughts?
22:08:02 [AaronSw`]
sounds cool
22:08:09 [Morbus]
with this current idea, AaronSw`, you could create a perl plugin that just system's a python script.
22:08:17 [Morbus]
suddently, you can write python plugins, assuming python is on the system.
22:08:24 [AaronSw`]
why can't you just write the plugin in Python?
22:08:32 [AaronSw`]
and use normal UNIX calling
22:08:39 [Morbus]
right, that's the idea.
22:08:41 [AaronSw`]
(system, i guess in perl)
22:08:47 [Morbus]
oh, i gotcha...
22:08:48 [Morbus]
hmm...
22:09:02 [Morbus]
well, then, there'd have be to command line flag support on the OS.
22:09:11 [Morbus]
and i don't think that's possible on Classic Mac.
22:09:27 [AaronSw`]
i'm pretty sure it is...
22:09:29 [Morbus]
like "plugin.pl -htmlurl= -filename="
22:09:47 [Morbus]
welp, then i'd have to start worrying about executables and permissions and so forth.
22:10:08 [Morbus]
if plugin.pl wasn't executable (how do you make a os 9 file "executable") then a simple command like that wouldn't work.
22:10:14 [AaronSw`]
yeah, i gues
22:10:44 [Morbus]
i'd have to start worrying about "perl plugin.pl" and "python plugin.py" and so forth.
22:10:57 [AaronSw`]
no, that's what shbang is for
22:11:16 [AaronSw`]
#!/usr/bin/python
22:11:19 [redmonk]
shebang never works for me
22:11:20 [AaronSw`]
hmm, not very cross-platform
22:11:22 [Morbus]
well, assuming that the file is executable, yeah.
22:11:25 [Morbus]
right.
22:11:42 [redmonk]
[[[
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[staging:/Build/Scripts] sid% ./tarApps.sh
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./tarApps.sh: Command not found.
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]]]
22:11:59 [Morbus]
yeah.
22:12:01 [AaronSw`]
what's the first line?
22:12:05 [AaronSw`]
of tarApps.sh
22:12:11 [Morbus]
i'd rather just have a one line perl script that systems() off to the right stuff, controlled by the plugin author.
22:12:26 [AaronSw`]
it's in /bin/sh i think
22:12:34 [AaronSw`]
no /usr/
22:12:37 [redmonk]
ah
22:13:00 [redmonk]
funny how that helps.
22:13:04 [Morbus]
heh, heh
22:13:08 [redmonk]
* redmonk smacks forehead
22:13:32 [Morbus]
AaronSw`, via python, what's the easiest way to send CL flags to a script?
22:13:49 [AaronSw`]
to call another script from within python?
22:13:50 [redmonk]
on the command line ;-)
22:13:58 [Morbus]
no...
22:14:11 [Morbus]
like say ./script.py could accept two CL arguments.
22:14:26 [redmonk]
-arg val -arg val
22:14:28 [Morbus]
what's easier: -htmlurl="" --htmlurl="", or just
22:14:29 [Morbus]
k
22:14:34 [redmonk]
IMO only
22:14:45 [Morbus]
k.
22:14:48 [redmonk]
* redmonk defers to asw + sbp
22:14:59 [Morbus]
once i get that plugin stuff built in, i'd like to test it with some of you then.
22:15:14 [AaronSw`]
oh, I see what you mean
22:15:28 [AaronSw`]
easiest is probably ./script.py htmlurlhere otherthinghere
22:15:37 [Morbus]
k
22:15:39 [redmonk]
oh yeah
22:16:17 [Morbus]
see, at least with a perl plugin wrapper, i don't have to worry about executable permissions or even shabangs - i can eval right within the code.
22:16:53 [Morbus]
AaronSw: tell me why "type" is the best solution for representing the plugin in the <outline>
22:17:01 [Morbus]
pff. god, i said "solution".
22:17:04 [Morbus]
you know what i mean.
22:17:13 [AaronSw`]
well, using an enterprise management system...
22:17:26 [Morbus]
heh heh
22:17:31 [AaronSw`]
it's because new url schemes are bad and metadata is good
22:17:39 [AaronSw`]
it doesn't have to be called type, tho
22:17:40 [Morbus]
right, i know about the url stuff.
22:17:51 [Morbus]
i didn't want to use url stuff, but thats the quickest way i could get across what i wanted ;)
22:18:03 [Morbus]
i mean, could i just name it plugin="" and be done with it?
22:18:19 [Morbus]
there's nothing "special" about "type"?
22:18:30 [AaronSw`]
type is what RU uses to decide what the type of the outline node is
22:18:32 [redmonk]
well, only in RU
22:18:51 [Morbus]
gimme some examples? rtf? html?
22:18:51 [AaronSw`]
like link/song/buddy/code/comment
22:18:54 [Morbus]
ah. ok.
22:19:01 [Morbus]
ahhh.
22:19:12 [Morbus]
well, if i were to take that to heart, then it'd be like type="plugin".
22:20:34 [redmonk]
yeah
22:20:39 [Morbus]
on a side note, there are plans to have filename=""'s be URIs on other systems.
22:21:02 [AaronSw`]
what do you mean?
22:21:03 [redmonk]
* redmonk remembers again why he hates OPML in it's current incarnation
22:21:08 [Morbus]
so someone with an always on machine could either host the scraper data himself for everyone, or else upload it every hour to a always on server, allowing other people to use the scraper data.
22:21:15 [redmonk]
* redmonk must one day rewrite OPML as rdf
22:21:55 [AaronSw`]
ah
22:22:04 [Morbus]
what do you think about that?
22:22:09 [AaronSw`]
neat
22:22:27 [Morbus]
becuause i want the scrapers on the local ampheta install, but i do want the data to be shared too.
22:22:41 [Morbus]
remove the server tech, but release the data garnered.
22:23:27 [Morbus]
actually...
22:23:30 [Morbus]
i wouldn't even have to do that.
22:23:38 [Morbus]
have filename="" be a remote uri.
22:23:59 [Morbus]
i could just have a prefernece of "upload scraped data to host|un|pw|dir" and then have a function that plugins could call.
22:24:06 [Morbus]
mirror_to_scraped_server or whatever.
22:24:45 [Morbus]
downside to that is I'm forcing plugin authors to *use* mirror_to_scraped_server as opposed to save_to($filename);
22:24:57 [Morbus]
where save_to would do the work for the local system and the remote server
22:25:14 [redmonk]
why not put the login in save_to
22:25:20 [redmonk]
er, logic
22:25:28 [Morbus]
yeah... thats what i'm thinking.
22:25:32 [Morbus]
actually, i could go even further.
22:25:36 [Morbus]
instead of passing $filename to the plugin.
22:25:53 [Morbus]
i could just assume that the plugin is going to return the RSS file to Ampheta, and then ampheta would handle the saving.
22:26:02 [redmonk]
"actually, i could go even further..."
22:26:08 [Morbus]
then, the plugin would truly ONLY be the scraper, as opposed to being a scraper and a filesaver.
22:26:18 [redmonk]
"actually, i could go even further..."
22:26:20 [Morbus]
yeah, that would work a lot better.
22:26:21 [redmonk]
;-)
22:26:26 [Morbus]
hehehe
22:26:35 [Morbus]
shuddup ;)
22:27:09 [redmonk]
i think every perl hacker is really in the process of trying to (possibly unconsciously) create the perl os
22:27:17 [redmonk]
"actually, i could go even further..."
22:27:22 [Morbus]
hehehe.
22:27:26 [Morbus]
there has been work on a perl os.
22:27:30 [AaronSw`]
sorta like zawinski's law
22:27:30 [redmonk]
i know
22:27:37 [Morbus]
and a complete redux of all the gnu utils in perl.
22:27:41 [AaronSw`]
ewww!
22:27:50 [AaronSw`]
that's the most disgusting thing i've ever heard
22:27:52 [redmonk]
<shudder>
22:27:54 [AaronSw`]
i need to go lie down now...
22:28:07 [Morbus]
AaronSw`: http://www.perl.com/language/ppt/
22:28:57 [Morbus]
yeah...
22:29:00 [Morbus]
the more i think about it.
22:29:12 [Morbus]
the plugin wil just accept a URL and return a RSS file.
22:29:20 [Morbus]
ampheta would do the rest.
22:29:29 [Morbus]
that would make them far more transportable to things outside of ampheta too.
22:33:01 [redmonk]
cool
22:36:52 [Morbus]
this also would allow me to make a blogifyYourPage plugin.
22:36:57 [Morbus]
that could be passed on.
22:37:13 [Morbus]
which would allow me to say "hey! use this XMLURL first, but if it fails, then use the plugin="" instead"
22:38:14 [sbp`]
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22:38:57 [sbp`]
Nice conneg setup on /about
22:39:05 [Morbus]
huh?
22:39:39 [sbp`]
On aaronsw.com
22:40:01 [eikeon]
Do not think he is doing content negotiation... could do though :)
22:40:09 [sbp`]
He is
22:40:16 [eikeon]
Cool.
22:41:04 [sbp`]
indeed
22:43:15 [Morbus]
you could even go further...
22:43:39 [Morbus]
multiple plugins could be odne like plugins="morbus,geomisk,sbp"
22:43:51 [Morbus]
morbus would run, pipe to geomisk, pipe to sbp, and sbp would be used as the final RSS feed.
22:44:04 [sbp`]
geomisk?
22:44:12 [Morbus]
good friend of mine. he suggested the idea.
22:44:15 [Morbus]
logster, where am i?
22:44:15 [Morbus]
See http://blogspace.com/swhack/chatlogs/2002-03-27#T22-44-15
22:45:33 [sbp`]
* sbp` reads
22:46:32 [Morbus]
yeah, just missed an ampheta plugin discussion.
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22:56:03 [SeanP]
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22:57:22 [SeanP]
this "range of HTTP" discussion on www-tag get weirder by the minute
22:57:24 [SeanP]
Tim still maintains that the range of HTTP is a generic document
22:57:25 [SeanP]
I do think that most people off of the street would agree if you reasoned with them a bit
23:07:14 [SeanP]
Hmm...
23:07:22 [SeanP]
I tried making a conversational text editor once
23:08:35 [thc]
that could be interesting
23:09:15 [thc]
I think Emacs has such a feature, optionally
23:09:23 [SeanP]
really? odd
23:10:01 [thc]
I remember something about a text editor with AI-incorporation... I think Emacs.
23:10:17 [SeanP]
AI?
23:10:47 [thc]
for conversation...
23:10:49 [SeanP]
I meant conversational editing mode: no AI invloved
23:10:57 [thc]
OK :-)
23:11:04 [SeanP]
I guess the phrase is misleading... :-)
23:11:31 [thc]
Yes, misleading in the sense of having exatly one (real) meaning, which isn't the one you intended.
23:11:35 [SeanP]
cf. http://www.w3.org/DesignIssues/Conversations
23:11:43 [thc]
Oh
23:11:44 [SeanP]
no
23:11:55 [thc]
:o) my mistake, probably
23:12:13 [SeanP]
Well, I didn't really expect you to have read that document... :-)
23:12:38 [SeanP]
Sorry... I tend to talk to myself in #swhack. It's quite a shock to have someone reply!
23:13:17 [Morbus]
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23:14:08 [SeanP]
Hey Morbus.
23:14:23 [thc]
*hmm* so is a conversational text editor a line editor?
23:14:35 [SeanP]
thc: yep. got it in one
23:14:46 [SeanP]
as you can probably tell, it didn't work all that well
23:15:06 [SeanP]
actually, it may have done. but only for editing very small files
23:15:31 [thc]
OK
23:16:00 [SeanP]
OTOH, you may as well just scribble into IRC
23:16:14 [SeanP]
but you can't do search and replaces on IRC :-)
23:16:18 [thc]
:-)
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23:23:14 [sbp`]
hey Morbus
23:23:26 [Morbus]
Hey sbpster
23:24:55 [sbp`]
working on Ampheta tonight?
23:24:56 [Morbus]
Ampheta work has gone well today
23:25:12 [Morbus]
snap
23:25:16 [sbp`]
what'd you get done?
23:25:40 [Morbus]
more modularization stuff.
23:26:12 [sbp`]
any multithreading?
23:26:26 [Morbus]
nup, not yet. gonna be doing the Channels stuff soon.
23:26:51 [Morbus]
* Morbus respawns
23:27:24 [AaronSw]
AaronSw has changed the topic to: Welcome to the Twilight Zone
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23:27:53 [Morbus]
heh
23:28:15 [SeanP]
chumpster didn't like that
23:28:34 [MorbusIff]
MorbusIff is now known as redmonk`
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redmonk is now known as MorbusIf`
23:29:04 [MorbusIf`]
ha
23:29:26 [jillzilla]
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23:29:29 [jillzilla]
hello
23:29:33 [sbp`]
isn't it with two f's?
23:29:37 [sbp`]
hey jillzilla.
23:29:39 [AaronSw`]
hi jill
23:29:42 [jillzilla]
hey.
23:29:44 [MorbusIf`]
MorbusIf` is now known as redmonk
23:30:01 [AaronSw`]
* AaronSw` will disappear in a second for a couple days
23:30:06 [redmonk`]
passover?
23:30:16 [AaronSw`]
yeah
23:30:21 [jillzilla]
* jillzilla will disappear for ten days in a couple of days.
23:30:34 [sbp`]
where are you going?
23:30:41 [redmonk`]
* redmonk` readies his rocket launcher...
23:30:41 [jillzilla]
Michigan and Ontario.
23:30:45 [redmonk]
redmonk has changed the topic to: Welcome to the Twilight Zone
23:30:50 [redmonk]
huh
23:30:54 [redmonk]
weird
23:30:54 [sbp`]
stupid black text.
23:31:04 [redmonk]
not my idea
23:31:15 [redmonk]
was exploring snak channnel options
23:31:24 [sbp]
Michigan: fun!
23:31:36 [jillzilla]
* jillzilla raises an eyebrow.
23:31:40 [MorbusIff]
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23:31:52 [sbp`]
hey MorbusIff
23:31:59 [MorbusIff]
hey sbpster
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23:32:06 [MorbusIff]
jillllll!
23:32:13 [redmonk`]
* redmonk` snipes Morbus
23:32:17 [jillzilla]
* jillzilla is Untrusting.
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23:32:44 [sbp`]
AaronSw, I think dirc is screwing up again
23:32:51 [AaronSw]
\nick sbp
23:32:52 [AaronSw`]
hmm
23:33:06 [AaronSw]
slashy slashy slash slash
23:33:08 [redmonk`]
who's jillzilla?
23:33:08 [AaronSw]
AaronSw is now known as sbp
23:33:12 [AaronSw`]
* AaronSw` checks, yep i'm the real AaronSw
23:33:15 [jillzilla]
jillzilla is now known as AaronSw
23:33:20 [sbp]
* sbp prods self
23:33:23 [sbp`]
ow!
23:33:41 [sbp]
* sbp shall be softer next time
23:33:59 [MorbusIff]
heh
23:33:59 [sbp`]
and gentler!
23:34:27 [redmonk`]
http://www.redmonk.net/2002/03/26#item1095
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23:35:36 [MorbusIff]
* MorbusIff respawns
23:35:38 [MorbusIff]
blam!
23:35:55 [sbp`]
two Morbus'. i don't know what to do with myself.
23:36:08 [MorbusIff]
prod yourself again.
23:36:13 [sbp]
* sbp prods himself
23:36:22 [sbp`]
argh! dammit. softer!
23:36:40 [MorbusIff]
by the way, the plural for Morbus is Morbuses, you freak.
23:36:51 [thc]
:-)
23:36:56 [sbp`]
i always thought it was Morbusii.
23:37:05 [MorbusIff]
Morbii!
23:37:15 [MorbusIff]
like in \x70.
23:37:15 [AaronSw]
Morbes.
23:38:11 [AaronSw`]
so what brings you here, jill?
23:38:20 [AaronSw`]
or AaronSw
23:38:31 [AaronSw]
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23:38:34 [jillzilla]
I was asked.
23:38:39 [AaronSw`]
* AaronSw` is too far asleep to make sense anymore
23:38:52 [AaronSw`]
AaronSw` is now known as AaronSw
23:38:58 [jillzilla]
asleep?
23:39:03 [AaronSw]
Yeah
23:39:11 [jillzilla]
Is everybody his or her usual self now?
23:39:14 [jillzilla]
Why are you asleep?
23:39:17 [AaronSw]
Oh, interesting. Now I just need to figure out who asked you.
23:39:34 [AaronSw]
asleep: dunno, i think it's because I stayed up too late last night.
23:39:37 [MorbusIff]
MorbusIff has changed the topic to: I heard that Who's Who just gave up on #swhack
23:39:58 [sbp`]
yup.
23:39:59 [sbp`]
i think.
23:40:02 [jillzilla]
jillzilla has changed the topic to: I heard that Who's Who just gave up on #swhack | But Who's What is interested.
23:40:06 [sbp`]
Morbus needs to kill himself.
23:40:33 [MorbusIff]
BwahaHahHa!
23:41:02 [AaronSw]
I think I liked the world better with one sbp instead of three...
23:41:13 [jillzilla]
* jillzilla sends MorbusIff a cyanide placebo.
23:41:33 [MorbusIff]
* MorbusIff gulps. farts. carries on with life.
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23:42:00 [AaronSw]
See, if MorbusIff kills Morbus, then he can impersonate Morbus... oh never mind
23:42:15 [jillzilla]
Didn't I see a movie like this once?
23:42:21 [sbp`]
face off?
23:42:21 [jillzilla]
Or an old Star Trek episode?
23:42:31 [sbp`]
mirror, mirror?
23:42:48 [AaronSw]
There was a scene in Monkey Island 4...
23:42:48 [jillzilla]
* jillzilla notes that sbp is an answerbot.
23:43:03 [jillzilla]
I thought it was Italian Girls in Prison...
23:43:04 [MorbusIff]
Mirror, mirror was great. The beard!
23:43:08 [sbp`]
heh!
23:43:09 [thc]
Invasion of the Body Snatchers?
23:43:20 [MorbusIff]
heheheh
23:45:09 [MorbusIff]
* MorbusIff respawns
23:45:59 [AaronSw]
* AaronSw slowly becomes less asleep
23:46:04 [MorbusIff]
/me runs screaming into a wall.
23:46:42 [MorbusIff]
* MorbusIff smacks Snak.
23:47:05 [sbp]
whheeeeeeee!
23:47:08 [sbp]
*splutch*
23:47:21 [MorbusIff]
you said it, boy.
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23:48:55 [AaronSw]
ta ta
23:48:56 [AaronSw]
* AaronSw disappears into the mists of time, perhaps never to return
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23:49:14 [sbp]
bye then
23:49:39 [sbp]
get us something nice
23:50:56 [jillzilla]
* jillzilla peers into the mist after AaronSw.
23:50:58 [jillzilla]
Ah, well.
23:51:24 [redmonk]
morbus: were you redmonk`?
23:51:36 [sbp]
*splutch*
23:51:43 [Morbus]
huh? no. weirdo.
23:52:03 [redmonk]
was wondering who posted the url
23:52:11 [Morbus]
i assumed you.
23:52:12 [redmonk]
(ie, who's been reading my site... ;-))
23:52:14 [redmonk]
nope
23:52:19 [Morbus]
odd.
23:52:23 [redmonk]
* redmonk has no `
23:52:28 [Morbus]
wait.
23:52:31 [Morbus]
how do i know you're redmonk?
23:52:35 [Morbus]
isn't he normally rm?
23:52:44 [redmonk]
not for a while now, morbus
23:52:48 [redmonk]
iregistered redmonk
23:52:50 [Morbus]
uh huh.
23:52:50 [jillzilla]
Wait, did I tell all those fantasies to someone other than Morbus?
23:52:57 [Morbus]
fantasies?
23:52:57 [Morbus]
pff.
23:53:01 [Morbus]
i think i would have remembered.
23:53:02 [redmonk]
* redmonk snickers
23:53:05 [Morbus]
what fantasies?
23:53:08 [sbp]
* sbp snickers even more
23:53:15 [Morbus]
* Morbus butterfingers.
23:53:19 [jillzilla]
Well, like, the one about the My Little Pony dolls.
23:53:30 [sbp]
Morbus butterfingers: was that one of them?
23:53:30 [Morbus]
my pony! my pony! my pony and MmemeeeEE!
23:53:40 [jillzilla]
* jillzilla combs the pony's long silky hair.
23:54:03 [jillzilla]
sbp: The butter came in later.
23:54:09 [sbp]
wow, did *everyone* on the planet have a My Little Pony, or what?
23:54:13 [jillzilla]
I didn't.
23:54:17 [sbp]
aw...
23:54:26 [jillzilla]
How many did you have?
23:54:31 [sbp]
not many
23:55:25 [jillzilla]
I didn't know they were a bothsexes toy. I thought they were girltoys.
23:55:38 [sbp]
they are, AFAIK
23:56:56 [sbp]
slow tonight
23:59:37 [sbp]
PP is doing more REST wonders on TAG