IRC log of swhack on 2002-03-06

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00:00:01 [talli]
i may have everything messed up
00:00:09 [talli]
whoops, i do
00:00:18 [sbp]
neat, we've turned into #openacs
00:00:22 [hazmat]
;)
00:00:23 [talli]
i was reading through SWAG last nigth
00:00:40 [hazmat]
i think the cr designers had dublin core in mind when it was designed.
00:00:43 [talli]
so what i am asking about is dublic core, not RDF
00:01:08 [talli]
is this channel logged?
00:01:20 [sbp]
yep http://blogspace.com/swhack/chatlogs/
00:01:28 [talli]
because i only chat in channels that could ruin my political career
00:01:31 [talli]
ok, cool
00:01:34 [sbp]
lol!
00:01:47 [hazmat]
* hazmat thinks we should head back to #openacs if anyone here is bothered by the topic
00:01:55 [sbp]
no! certainly not
00:01:57 [talli]
what's the topic again?
00:01:58 [hazmat]
cool.
00:02:05 [sbp]
this channel is a free-for all crapfest
00:02:08 [hazmat]
dublin core in the oacs content repository
00:02:08 [Morbus]
heh, heh.
00:02:13 [talli]
right.
00:02:15 [Morbus]
is this too much innuendo:
00:02:15 [Morbus]
<p>In these dull times, you've got plenty of freedom to dive deeper into the Apache Love Pit of Satisfaction. Below, we'll learn a little bit more about the features Apache gives you free of charge. As such, we'll run through each of Apache's default modules and dissect what tricks they provide and how they can succumb to your desires.</p>
00:02:17 [talli]
not vinod;s pants
00:02:43 [sbp]
no, although I'm sure you mention jello in the next paragraph
00:02:43 [AaronSw]
anyone know how to turn a next cube on?
00:02:57 [sbp]
you probably just breathe on it, and it springs to life
00:03:08 [hazmat]
lol
00:03:41 [Morbus]
here's some mod's:
00:03:41 [Morbus]
<p>In these dull times, you've got plenty of freedom to dive deeper into the Apache Love Pit of Satisfaction. Below, we'll trace our fingers around the features Apache gives you free of charge. As our excitement heightens, we'll ease our way through each of Apache's default modules and dissect what tricks they provide and how they can succumb to your desires.</p>
00:03:48 [hazmat]
so talli if the info is already there, then all thats needed is a template method to export the metadata in rdf/xml.
00:04:02 [Morbus]
s/our way through/ourselves in/
00:04:26 [sbp]
it's all good, it's all good
00:04:51 [Morbus]
i'm wodnering now if i should take out the Love Pit.
00:04:57 [Morbus]
with the new revisions, i don't think it'd get past the censors
00:05:12 [Morbus]
the arms of Apache.
00:05:12 [Morbus]
yeah, that sound sbetter
00:05:45 [sbp]
how about just "Pit"
00:05:53 [sbp]
you have to have something a bit dark there
00:05:54 [talli]
talli has left #swhack
00:06:05 [sbp]
"Apache" and "Pit" really contrast each other well
00:06:23 [Morbus]
here's the final, i think
00:06:23 [Morbus]
<p>In these dull times, we've got plenty of freedom to fall deeper into the arms of Apache, tracing our fingers around the features we get free of charge. As our excitement heightens, we'll ease ourselves into Apache's default modules and enjoy the tricks they provide and how they can succumb to your desires.</p>
00:06:53 [Morbus]
the armpits of apache doesn't sound romanitc.
00:06:53 [Morbus]
<g>
00:06:57 [sbp]
lol
00:07:01 [sbp]
fair enough
00:14:09 [AaronSw]
it's crazy how much the next is like os x
00:14:16 [AaronSw]
except in black and white...
00:16:37 [Morbus]
there's a black and white hack for osx.
00:16:37 [Morbus]
it inverts the screen colors, i believbe
00:18:12 [AaronSw]
yeah, that's a 10.0.x feature
00:18:15 [AaronSw]
* AaronSw is away: dinner
00:30:47 [tansaku2]
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00:38:34 [sbp]
I have a strong urge to be pedantic about something
00:38:36 [sbp]
ah: should "Yeti" be capitalized, or not?
00:38:52 [sbp]
nah. of course not
00:39:03 [Morbus]
nope.
00:39:08 [Morbus]
but Abominable Snowman should be
00:39:26 [Morbus]
same with Bigfoot.
00:39:26 [Morbus]
sasquatch should not
00:39:35 [sbp]
but "abominable snowmen"?
00:39:54 [sbp]
hey, why shouldn't sasquatch?
00:40:02 [Morbus]
hmm. i would still capitalize it myself.
00:40:08 [Morbus]
its like afootbal team.;
00:40:08 [Morbus]
sasquatch and yeti's are races.
00:40:11 [sbp]
well, it's not the name of something, then
00:40:23 [sbp]
abominable snowmen can be a race!
00:40:27 [Morbus]
Abominable Snowman and Bigfoot are famous personifications of that race
00:40:27 [Morbus]
like mouse and Mickey Mouse
00:40:39 [sbp]
I suppose
00:40:44 [Morbus]
abominable snowman are yeti.
00:40:46 [Morbus]
bigfoot are sasquatch
00:40:52 [sbp]
bigfeet, you mean
00:41:12 [Morbus]
heh, heh
00:41:41 [sbp]
O.K., so I shift my attention to "repairsmen"
00:42:00 [sbp]
now, in this case it's not sexist since there aren't any women on the channel that it can possibly refer to
00:42:23 [sbp]
but if a competent female motherboard repairsperson did enter the channel, I'd suddenly become a git
00:42:23 [Morbus]
right.
00:42:23 [Morbus]
there's no sasquatetta's.
00:42:23 [Morbus]
<g>
00:42:28 [sbp]
lol
00:42:50 [sbp]
I'd better play it safe
00:42:56 [sbp]
sbp has changed the topic to: Swhack: home of drain-yetis, and competent motherboard repairspeople
00:43:15 [Morbus]
wow, that 20 minutes went fast.
00:43:15 [Morbus]
* Morbus coughs
00:43:30 [sbp]
heh. You summoned Kronos, eh?
00:43:50 [Morbus]
mmhmm.
00:43:56 [Morbus]
the stupid little thing bit into my hand, drew blood, and i enjoyed it
00:44:10 [sbp]
sure it wasn't a tick?
00:44:31 [Morbus]
i have a tick movie.
00:44:38 [Morbus]
.google disobey the horror section tick
00:44:39 [xena]
disobey the horror section tick: http://www.disobey.com/collected/c_barry_slough/fever_on_a_sunny_day.shtml
00:44:56 [Morbus]
"disobey the horror section tick"?
00:45:03 [Morbus]
heh. sounds like a foreign translation of a terrorist movie
00:45:34 [sbp]
lol
00:48:45 [AaronSw]
do folks mind if i bring wallopper in here?
00:48:59 [AaronSw]
* AaronSw is looking for ways to cut down on channels
00:49:22 [Morbus]
wallopper?
00:49:22 [Morbus]
what's that?
00:49:30 [sbp]
wallopper: please do
00:49:46 [sbp]
and tell the people who control the wallops that they're being logged!
00:49:54 [AaronSw]
walloper is my secret weapon in the war on elephants
00:50:17 [sbp]
hey! what's wrong with elephants?
00:50:17 [Morbus]
ohhh.
00:50:17 [Morbus]
i thought it was some guy in charge of the walls.
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00:51:02 [sbp]
another chapter in the #swhack story is started
00:51:23 [AaronSw]
"the #swhack story" sounds like a bad documentary film
00:51:32 [sbp]
what do you think I'm working on?
00:52:10 [sbp]
* sbp needs to sketch out a storyboard
00:52:48 [AaronSw]
AaronSw has changed the topic to: Swhack: home of drain-yetis, and competent motherboard repairspeople
00:53:09 [Morbus]
i hate when you set it to black.
00:53:14 [AaronSw]
hey, when'd i do that?
00:53:15 [sbp]
ACT I. Narrator: An unassuming channel. Nothing out of the ordinary. Suddenly, something stirs! Morbus: OooOh, I have ass-cramp! Narrator: Yes, it's the #swhack story [music]
00:53:18 [AaronSw]
AaronSw has changed the topic to: Swhack: home of drain-yetis, and competent motherboard repairspeople
00:53:21 [AaronSw]
sorry, that was total accident
00:53:31 [Morbus]
you do that every stinking time
00:53:44 [Morbus]
eheehehehe.
00:53:45 [AaronSw]
i didn't mean to edit the topic
00:53:57 [AaronSw]
sbp, lol
00:53:57 [Morbus]
we should do an mp3 of the play
00:54:05 [sbp]
heh, yeah!
01:00:00 [sbp]
GWS/2.0
01:00:01 [sbp]
?
01:00:17 [AaronSw]
Google Web Server
01:00:28 [sbp]
ah
01:02:49 [Morbus]
:)
01:04:00 [AaronSw]
and what are you?
01:04:21 [AaronSw]
the illusive seanpalmer
01:04:23 [sbp]
http://xmlns.org/0.1/foaf/Person
01:04:47 [sbp]
make that http://xmlns.com/foaf/0.1/Person
01:04:55 [AaronSw]
heh
01:06:51 [sbp]
I'm a kind of mix of illusive, odd, annoying, pedantic, weird, funny, idiotic, pessimistic, optimistic, sweet, priggish, arrogant, and laughable
01:07:33 [AaronSw]
(aka ioapwfipospal)
01:07:52 [sbp]
of course, if you'd read my homepage properly, you'd already know
01:08:12 [sbp]
I mean, it's in big letters bordered with a dotted blue outline
01:08:18 [sbp]
what more do you want?
01:08:19 [AaronSw]
:anargram soap-wifipopal
01:08:34 [sbp]
?
01:08:57 [AaronSw]
"illusive, odd, annoying, pedantic, weird, funny, idiotic, pessimistic, optimistic, sweet, priggish, arrogant, and laughable" :acronym "ioapwfipospal" .
01:08:58 [sbp]
ah, right
01:09:05 [AaronSw]
"ioapwfipospal" :anagram "soap-wifipopal" .
01:09:32 [sbp]
:sbp a :soapWifipopoal .
01:10:40 [AaronSw]
You've got such a cool homepage.
01:11:01 [sbp]
it just keeps getting odder and odder :-)
01:11:15 [AaronSw]
odder/better
01:11:46 [sbp]
:SoapWifipopoal rdfs:subClassOf :Illusive, :Odd, :Annoying, :Pedantic, :Weird, :Funny, :Idiotic, :Pessimistic, :Optimistic, :Sweet, :Priggish, :Arrogant, :Laughable .
01:11:50 [Morbus]
AaronSw, how do you feel about ocs?
01:11:55 [sbp]
one day, it'll be the only reason for the Web to exist!
01:12:02 [AaronSw]
Morbus, should be an rss vocab
01:12:50 [sbp]
I still think that your and Connolly's hps are the best
01:13:14 [AaronSw]
really? even after the redesign of mine?
01:14:03 [sbp]
Hmm... yes. But only because you call me a famous person
01:14:10 [AaronSw]
heh
01:14:49 [sbp]
wow, how have you been in the news that many times? it's obscene
01:16:02 [sbp]
heh, this doesn't read right: "Brent Simmons is leaving UserLand. Brent always had a provoking thought, a kind word and a helping hand. I wish..."
01:16:10 [sbp]
I think it cut off at a bad place
01:16:27 [AaronSw]
lol!
01:16:32 [sbp]
heh, heh. That gets my blunder of the week award
01:16:48 [AaronSw]
it's done automatically by MT
01:17:00 [AaronSw]
* AaronSw adds some sbp quotes
01:17:41 [Morbus]
AaronSw, you should fix that. that's the excerpt? just change the rss to use your EntryBody. it's much better
01:17:48 [Morbus]
the excerpt, for me, is useless.
01:18:04 [AaronSw]
why?
01:18:06 [Morbus]
.md5 text
01:18:14 [AaronSw]
.py import md5
01:18:17 [Morbus]
hmm. is there an auto md5er around here?
01:18:23 [sbp]
the funny thing is, I really did read it that way, untill I noticed that all of the others had ellipses after them
01:18:24 [AaronSw]
.py md5.new('text').hexdigest()
01:18:24 [xena]
'1cb251ec0d568de6a929b520c4aed8d1'
01:18:25 [Morbus]
.md5 text
01:18:38 [Morbus]
.md5 text
01:18:50 [AaronSw]
.md5 text
01:18:52 [Morbus]
k
01:18:52 [Morbus]
thanks
01:18:59 [sbp]
s/until/unti/
01:19:42 [Morbus]
.py md5.new('http://www.gamegrene.com/index.xml').hexdigest()
01:19:43 [sbp]
heh, heh
01:19:48 [AaronSw]
"""
01:19:50 [AaronSw]
I've been in the news several times: Boston Herald, Chicago Tribune, USA Today, Associated Press, Mass High Tech (JPEG), Metafilter, Sunday Times, Eight-Forty-Eight (RealAudio), Ask Tim.
01:19:50 [AaronSw]
<sbp> wow, how have you been in the news that many times? it's obscene
01:19:51 [AaronSw]
"""
01:19:56 [Morbus]
* Morbus grumbles
01:20:03 [Morbus]
not registered? burn in hell, xena
01:20:04 [AaronSw]
.py md5.new('http://www.gamegrene.com/index.xml').hexdigest()
01:20:04 [xena]
'69ef607143c3e0ee3b1d43cfbef4b734'
01:20:15 [AaronSw]
but that's not the md5 of the content, just the url
01:20:25 [Morbus]
yeah, i'm gonna need like 12 more though
01:20:31 [Morbus]
http://www.disobey.com/about/presspit.shtml ;)
01:20:31 [Morbus]
yeah, I know, AaronSw
01:20:34 [AaronSw]
then download python you git
01:20:38 [AaronSw]
;-)
01:20:41 [Morbus]
blogs what?
01:20:52 [Morbus]
bah! ;)
01:20:53 [AaronSw]
[OLM]
01:21:02 [AaronSw]
Why are you hashing the URIs?
01:21:42 [Morbus]
internal ids for a new OPML attr for ampheta
01:21:51 [AaronSw]
um, weird.
01:22:07 [sbp]
oh wow, I had *huge* lag
01:22:09 [Morbus]
hmm?
01:22:09 [sbp]
I was getting bits of your text through like minutes after you wrote it
01:22:11 [sbp]
I didn't even know that Morbus was speaking!
01:22:29 [Morbus]
why weird, AaronSw?
01:22:34 [AaronSw]
what's the point?
01:22:42 [AaronSw]
why not store the urls themselves?
01:22:49 [AaronSw]
fink install python
01:23:06 [Morbus]
what else would you use for an internal ID?
01:23:11 [AaronSw]
the urls themselves
01:23:35 [AaronSw]
or just a number
01:23:39 [Morbus]
* Morbus thinks.
01:24:05 [Morbus]
welp, i'm gonna be using an ID everywhere to represent the feed in question - in GET/POST's, etc.
01:24:14 [AaronSw]
so a number would be better then
01:24:20 [sbp]
BLURB:No news today. Go away
01:24:27 [Morbus]
and i'd rather not have to worry about encoding chars in the uri.
01:25:13 [Morbus]
what sort of number would you suggest AaronSw? i don't want to keep track of "last number used" - i'd rather it be some large very-hard-to-get-similar number
01:25:23 [AaronSw]
oh, fine
01:25:40 [sbp]
.py import urllib; print urllib.quote('!4æ4õ65ÈÉ6~68656"6A4A4Æ456645D4@6T@6Ð4A656')
01:25:40 [xena]
ImportError: untrusted dynamic module: _socket
01:25:52 [sbp]
Pff
01:28:24 [sbp]
I should have UTFed it first, anyway
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* MorbusIff grumbles
01:29:51 [MorbusIff]
logster, where am i?
01:29:52 [MorbusIff]
See http://blogspace.com/swhack/chatlogs/2002-03-06#T01-29-51
01:30:31 [MorbusIff]
so, anyyyways ;)
01:31:58 [MorbusIff]
how about a ten digit number, randomly determined?
01:34:18 [deltab]
wouldn't you rather have one you can be sure won't be repeated?
01:34:38 [MorbusIff]
well, it does't need to be unique across the whole world - just on the user's machine.
01:34:46 [MorbusIff]
i don't want to go nuts with it.
01:35:00 [sbp]
how about 8 alphanum?
01:35:03 [MorbusIff]
i was just gonna use md5, but AaronSatan over there got pissed.
01:35:09 [deltab]
a timestamp with sufficiently high resolution would do
01:36:05 [deltab]
012651Z <AaronSw:#swhack> oh, fine
01:36:22 [deltab]
hmm, what was that in reference to?
01:38:52 [MorbusIff]
any issues with using "date_added" and "date_checked" as attribute names?
01:41:12 [davb]
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01:50:04 [sbp]
* sbp plays Night And Day, Billie Holliday
01:50:16 [walloper]
<lilo> "I lift this clavicle to worlds without number, and bring a new light to the Way, guiding this gate that all may prosper, those who guide and are guided, who light the Way and bask in the light so given....Behold, I open a new world."
01:50:19 [sbp]
s/Holliday/Holiday/
01:51:15 [walloper]
<lilo> Please welcome back simak.openprojects.net in Sydney, Australia! :)
01:51:20 [sbp]
Hmm...
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02:50:06 [AaronSw]
wow, barlow's daughters are cute: http://www.eff.org/~barlow/Barlowettes(5-00)big.jpg
03:01:47 [AaronSw]
String Cheese Incident is good!
03:01:49 [sbp]
[some mumbling]
03:01:53 [sbp]
SCI?
03:02:39 [AaronSw]
@ http://www.stringcheeseincident.com/
03:02:50 [chumpster]
A: The String Cheese Incident from AaronSw
03:03:03 [AaronSw]
A::A hot new band, with a fun groove.
03:03:05 [chumpster]
commented item A
03:03:41 [AaronSw]
A::John Perry Barlow: ["like Grateful Dead 2.0"|http://news.com.com/2008-1082-843349.html]
03:03:42 [chumpster]
commented item A
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03:12:22 [sbp]
Pöpli is a nice word
03:12:27 [sbp]
oh, wow!
03:12:33 [sbp]
the meaning of nice changed quickly
03:12:48 [sbp]
in the early 20th century, the current meaning was just a colloquialism
03:12:57 [sbp]
although it had been around a while...
03:28:30 [jeremiah]
anyone know what backend system handles urls like "http://www.diynet.com/DIY/article/0,2058,3354,FF.html"
03:28:49 [AaronSw]
storyserver, i think
03:29:00 [jeremiah]
aah, thanks
03:29:03 [jeremiah]
does CNET use that?
03:29:04 [jeremiah]
or did they?
03:29:07 [AaronSw]
I BELIEVE SO
03:29:10 [AaronSw]
oops, sorry
03:32:45 [sbp]
.AaronSw { font-transform: lowercase; }
03:32:52 [AaronSw]
Heh, heh
03:36:07 [jeremiah]
I have two jobs now
03:36:07 [jeremiah]
woo woo
03:36:07 [jeremiah]
and lots of school bullshit
03:36:08 [jeremiah]
did you get network code working?
03:36:08 [AaronSw]
Not yet... been busy.
03:36:08 [jeremiah]
btw: congrats on the RDF thing for lessig
03:36:08 [jeremiah]
ok
03:36:08 [AaronSw]
many thanks
03:36:09 [jeremiah]
did you get linked from somewhere important?
03:36:09 [jeremiah]
i got 2 hits from your site today
03:36:38 [AaronSw]
i just added a link to you today
03:37:01 [jeremiah]
oh
03:37:15 [jeremiah]
well I suppose that's it then
03:37:28 [jeremiah]
my weblog has gotten less interesting lately
03:37:32 [jeremiah]
I'm away from home so damn much
03:38:50 [AaronSw]
:(
03:39:14 [jeremiah]
wel most of it is me out hanging out with friends and other useless things
03:39:19 [jeremiah]
but I have to blow off my steam somewhere
03:40:27 [jeremiah]
odd that I still have steady readers
03:40:28 [jeremiah]
I wonder why
03:41:11 [jeremiah]
everyone probably mistakes me being quiet for me working on something really cool, it's the transmeta effect
03:42:14 [monokrom]
you're not?
03:42:28 [AaronSw]
Heh heh
03:44:42 [jeremiah]
ssssh
03:44:52 [jeremiah]
I got that in my email today
03:44:54 [jeremiah]
interesting
03:44:59 [AaronSw]
[OLM]
03:46:02 [jeremiah]
going to sleep everyone, seeya
03:46:03 [jeremiah]
* jeremiah is back (gone 122:37:51)
03:46:04 [jeremiah]
(wow)
03:46:06 [jeremiah]
* jeremiah is away: I'm busy
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05:00:13 [sbp]
sometimes, I could do with a semi-comma
05:00:24 [sbp]
.google "semi-comma"
05:00:24 [xena]
"semi-comma": http://www.ed-fuzeau.fr/pedago/Francais/Instruments/Carillons_8.asp
05:01:54 [sbp]
perhaps ",,"
05:02:17 [sbp]
nah... doesn't look write
05:02:42 [sbp]
even Strunk notes that comma application is difficult: "This rule is difficult to apply; it is frequently hard to decide whether a single word, such as however, or a brief phrase, is or is not parenthetic."
05:02:49 [sbp]
- http://www.bartleby.com/141/strunk.html
05:15:05 [AaronSw]
oh, awesome! HTML-generating proof notation
05:15:12 [AaronSw]
see http://www.cs.ucsd.edu/groups/tatami/kumo/exs/sqrt2/SqrtRoot/duck.html
05:15:17 [AaronSw]
and http://www.cs.ucsd.edu/groups/tatami/kumo/exs/sqrt2/SqrtRoot/page1.html
05:17:55 [AaronSw]
hmm, awfully stilted
05:46:10 [sbp]
heh: http://www.strw.leidenuniv.nl/~vdmeulen/deeper/Misspellings_of_my_name.html
05:46:14 [walloper]
<lilo> So far the two new servers we've tried today have both split; so we're not doing great on new server reliability. Removed the one from rotation. If you're interested in helping us by sponsoring a server and have excellent bandwidth and reliability, please take a look at http://openprojects.net/sponsoring_servers.shtml . Thanks!
05:53:27 [sbp]
argh, I just want a list of 1000 common misspellings, or something similar
05:54:34 [AaronSw]
One of my spelling teachers gave us that.
05:54:44 [AaronSw]
She had us spell the 500 most mispelled words.
05:55:53 [sbp]
I'm an averagely pitiful speller... I don't mind too much, but I'd like a good spellchecker in Python
05:57:37 [sbp]
ah, the good olde days of English...
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06:07:58 [sbp]
hey rm
06:08:41 [rm]
ello
06:09:05 [rm]
sup?
06:09:23 [sbp]
just hangin'
06:11:55 [rm]
how did things end up last night?
06:12:06 [rm]
i saw the logs - tav showed up?
06:12:11 [AaronSw]
We gots ourselves a mediator.
06:13:23 [rm]
ah
06:13:34 [rm]
things worked out peacably?
06:13:48 [rm]
(sp?)
06:14:23 [AaronSw]
not yet, but i think we just need time to heal the wounds.
06:15:10 [rm]
ah
06:15:13 [rm]
cool
06:15:19 [rm]
glad to see things going, though
06:15:41 [rm]
i need a bit more help understanding how python import modules
06:16:07 [rm]
if it does not barf on the "import" statement, then it at least found the module, right?
06:16:23 [AaronSw]
i'd think so
06:18:39 [rm]
ok, so in my little cgi i 'import eep'
06:18:46 [rm]
(eep is on site-packages)
06:18:52 [rm]
and it seems to like that
06:19:07 [rm]
but if i then call eep.parse() on something...
06:19:40 [sbp]
Gotta run
06:19:56 [rm]
eep.parse("") NameError: global name 'eep' is not defined
06:19:58 [rm]
bye
06:20:01 [AaronSw]
Odd.
06:20:23 [rm]
yes
06:20:25 [AaronSw]
even with just that two line script?
06:21:20 [rm]
[tifighter:/Library/WebServer/CGI-Executables] sid% python
06:21:20 [rm]
Python 2.2 (#1, Jan 9 2002, 15:28:46)
06:21:20 [rm]
[GCC 2.95.2 19991024 (release)] on darwin
06:21:20 [rm]
Type "help", "copyright", "credits" or "license" for more information.
06:21:20 [rm]
>>> import eep
06:21:21 [rm]
>>> epp.parse("")
06:21:23 [rm]
Traceback (most recent call last):
06:21:25 [rm]
File "<stdin>", line 1, in ?
06:21:27 [rm]
NameError: name 'epp' is not defined
06:21:29 [rm]
>>>
06:21:32 [rm]
oops
06:21:34 [AaronSw]
you spelled it epp
06:21:35 [AaronSw]
:)
06:21:35 [rm]
doh!
06:21:56 [rm]
>>> eep.parse("")
06:21:56 [rm]
Traceback (most recent call last):
06:21:56 [rm]
File "<stdin>", line 1, in ?
06:21:57 [rm]
AttributeError: 'module' object has no attribute 'parse'
06:21:57 [rm]
>>>
06:22:12 [AaronSw]
now that's more interesting
06:22:22 [AaronSw]
can you do:
06:22:24 [AaronSw]
>>> eep
06:22:27 [AaronSw]
>>> dir(eep)
06:22:51 [rm]
>>> eep
06:22:51 [rm]
<module 'eep' from '/sw/lib/python2.2/site-packages/eep/__init__.py'>
06:22:51 [rm]
>>> dir(eep)
06:22:51 [rm]
['__builtins__', '__doc__', '__file__', '__name__', '__path__']
06:25:46 [rm]
hm
06:27:01 [AaronSw]
oh...
06:27:41 [AaronSw]
where's the eep code?
06:27:49 [AaronSw]
i don't think parse is in the eep module...
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06:30:28 [deltab]
you have a package
06:30:39 [deltab]
what's in the eep directory?
06:30:53 [rm]
got it
06:31:12 [rm]
from eep import eep, infer, query
06:31:17 [rm]
thast works
06:31:20 [AaronSw]
Cool.
06:31:23 [rm]
yeah
06:31:29 [rm]
like, duh
06:31:35 [rm]
* rm sighs
06:32:52 [rm]
i'm kindof suprised sean has no "Store" class in eep
06:33:04 [rm]
do you know why it's like that?
06:33:05 [AaronSw]
eep is like super-slim
06:33:59 [rm]
i'm trying to work on my cgi and thought to build my store programmatically
06:34:01 [rm]
bzzt
06:34:12 [rm]
have to it w/ strings i guess
06:36:46 [AaronSw]
lists?
06:36:52 [AaronSw]
pickled listd
06:36:54 [AaronSw]
err lists
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06:37:55 [rm]
well, was going to serialize to triples
06:38:03 [AaronSw]
that could work too
06:38:18 [rm]
that makes the most sense to me
06:38:35 [rm]
eep.parse(file.open().read())
06:38:54 [rm]
file.open().write(eep.serialize(store))
06:39:05 [rm]
that's the 'easy' part ;-)
06:39:29 [rm]
what are you working on, aaron?
06:39:49 [AaronSw]
* AaronSw is away: studying
06:42:22 [AaronSw]
the solution is wu-wei
06:42:30 [rm]
huh?
06:43:05 [rm]
well, while no one is listening...
06:43:33 [rm]
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* sbp waves
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14:56:48 [AaronSw]
A::PBS: ["a musically brilliant group of former ski bums who mix and distill a myriad of styles ‹ everything from rock, jazz, Celtic, bluegrass, son, samba, and cha cha ‹ into their own distinctive sound."|http://www.pbs.org/klru/austin/artists/program324.html]
14:56:55 [chumpster]
commented item A
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A:
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A::]
15:04:41 [chumpster]
commented item A
15:04:42 [sbp]
blargh
15:04:45 [AaronSw]
Heh.
15:04:48 [AaronSw]
A::
15:04:48 [chumpster]
http://www.stringcheeseincident.com/
15:04:49 [chumpster]
The String Cheese Incident
15:04:50 [chumpster]
(AaronSw) A hot new band, with a fun groove.
15:04:51 [chumpster]
(AaronSw) John Perry Barlow: ["like Grateful Dead 2.0"|http://news.com.com/2008-1082-843349.html]
15:04:52 [chumpster]
(AaronSw) PBS: ["a musically brilliant group of former ski bums who mix and distill a myriad of styles ‹ everything from rock, jazz, Celtic, bluegrass, son, samba, and cha cha ‹ into their own distinctive sound."|http://www.pbs.org/klru/austin/artists/program324.html]
15:04:53 [chumpster]
(sbp) ]
15:05:00 [Morbus]
.google rdfpic
15:05:01 [xena]
rdfpic: http://jigsaw.w3.org/rdfpic
15:05:02 [AaronSw]
I need to install the new chump..
15:05:05 [sbp]
thanks :-)
15:05:10 [sbp]
yeah, editing would be nice...
15:05:39 [AaronSw]
they have a grateful dead policy about their songs: homemade recordings can be freely trated
15:05:44 [AaronSw]
err traded
15:06:35 [AaronSw]
makes a great demo for p2p systems :)
15:06:36 [AaronSw]
* AaronSw is away: school
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15:23:20 [sbp]
hey rm
15:25:25 [redmonk]
hi sbp
15:25:29 [redmonk]
how's it?
15:25:41 [sbp]
not too bad, thanks
15:25:45 [redmonk]
when is eep going to get a "Store" class?
15:25:46 [sbp]
and yourself?
15:25:55 [redmonk]
not tooooo bad.
15:26:01 [sbp]
a Store class: maybe soon, maybe never :-)
15:26:04 [redmonk]
had a wacky evening last night
15:26:08 [sbp]
do you want me to write one?
15:26:08 [redmonk]
hehe
15:26:19 [redmonk]
it seems to make sense to me
15:26:26 [sbp]
think it'd be useful?
15:26:45 [redmonk]
since you work with them all the time in eep, and things like "remove" seem to me to belong to it
15:26:52 [redmonk]
but that's just my thoughts
15:26:56 [sbp]
wacky evening: do tell! well, if you can. Remember that anything you say on here could one day ruin your political career (as some guy said)
15:27:12 [sbp]
no, I agree
15:27:22 [sbp]
actually, the Query module started out that way...
15:27:25 [redmonk]
nahh - got a letter from lawyers about us leaving our apartment
15:27:29 [sbp]
as qands: query and store
15:27:34 [sbp]
but I dropped the "Store" part
15:27:46 [redmonk]
really would rather not go into it right now
15:27:52 [redmonk]
as qands?
15:28:01 [sbp]
fair enough. Sounds sucky
15:28:02 [redmonk]
oh
15:28:15 [sbp]
well, qands doesn't exist anymore: it because query
15:28:24 [sbp]
s/because/became/
15:28:24 [redmonk]
right
15:28:47 [redmonk]
annyway, it seems to be if i say eep.parse(text)
15:29:09 [redmonk]
i should get a Store back, instead of a list that i may later forget was a store ;-)
15:29:14 [sbp]
what seems to be what?
15:29:29 [sbp]
yep... well, it is a store. A Python list makes a good store!
15:29:35 [sbp]
heh... I keep on telling people that
15:29:48 [redmonk]
no argument
15:30:21 [redmonk]
buuut, maybe this is just me coming from java - i actually like knowing what a thing IS
15:30:22 [sbp]
well, my thinking was that the builtin list class has lots of decent functions already, and is surely optimized for speed
15:30:35 [redmonk]
i hear you
15:30:44 [sbp]
I mean, the people who wrote Python are better coders than me, and their stuff is in every Python distro :-)
15:30:52 [sbp]
a list is a class
15:31:13 [sbp]
well, *a* list is an instance of that class... blargh, you know what I mean
15:31:24 [sbp]
I could sub class it, of course
15:31:28 [redmonk]
what about just wrapping a list, and implementing the list-ish methods on Store, then add remove()
15:31:31 [sbp]
or "extend" to all you odd Java folk
15:31:43 [sbp]
snap
15:31:48 [redmonk]
and add()! i want an add(triple) method!
15:31:54 [sbp]
well, my way's better
15:31:57 [redmonk]
haha
15:32:01 [redmonk]
ok, ok
15:32:03 [redmonk]
i had to try
15:32:05 [sbp]
.append() not good enough for you?
15:32:23 [sbp]
heh, heh. No, I'll write a store class for you
15:32:26 [redmonk]
oh, there you go, thinking like a list again
15:32:42 [redmonk]
no - you don't have to - i just forgto about append()
15:33:03 [sbp]
pff, how can you "forget" about append? that's no excuse! :-)
15:33:06 [redmonk]
i'm also thinking about the API in the future
15:33:26 [redmonk]
i've been coding python for TWO WEEKS! gimme some slack
15:33:27 [redmonk]
man
15:34:02 [redmonk]
OO, man - you have functions and methods all mixed up
15:34:38 [sbp]
good
15:35:07 [redmonk]
eep.remove() is a function that operates on a store/list, while append() is a method on the list object
15:35:15 [redmonk]
it's not intuitive to someone just learning the API
15:35:22 [redmonk]
sure, after talking it out with you i can use it
15:35:41 [redmonk]
but i poked around a while last night trying to figure out how to do stuff
15:35:45 [sbp]
yep, that's fair enough
15:35:58 [redmonk]
i really like eep - i don't mean to criticize
15:36:09 [redmonk]
hope you don't get me wrong
15:36:33 [sbp]
no! I welcome comments that can improve the damn thing
15:36:55 [redmonk]
good
15:37:35 [sbp]
you'll find it pretty difficult to offend me
15:37:42 [redmonk]
heh
15:37:48 [redmonk]
good for you
15:38:15 [Morbus]
redmonk?
15:38:18 [Morbus]
from redmonk.net?
15:38:42 [redmonk]
yes
15:38:52 [Morbus]
kickass. i've been reading your rss feed for months now.
15:38:57 [redmonk]
(i'm famous!)
15:38:58 [redmonk]
no shit
15:39:02 [Morbus]
:)
15:39:07 [redmonk]
i din't think anyone used that damn thing ;-)
15:39:11 [Morbus]
heh, heh. yup :)
15:39:41 [redmonk]
i recently added an rdf version - not that it makes any diff to the content
15:39:44 [redmonk]
hehe
15:39:59 [Morbus]
what do you use for an aggregator, if any?
15:40:32 [redmonk]
none. I use blogtracker to follow sites, but i kind of gave up on the aggregator thing
15:40:39 [redmonk]
none of them quite fit
15:40:47 [Morbus]
ah. ever tried amphetadesk?
15:40:52 [Morbus]
that's what i used. pretty good.
15:40:54 [redmonk]
i use mac os x, and i'm actually not really into desktop websites
15:41:00 [Morbus]
hey, i use os x too ;)
15:41:41 [redmonk]
i used radio userland for a while, but never really used the aggregator in it
15:41:45 [redmonk]
then my trial ran out
15:41:57 [Morbus]
ah. you shoudl try out amphetadesk.
15:42:01 [redmonk]
i
15:42:04 [redmonk]
will
15:42:08 [sbp]
yeah, Amphetadesk rocks!
15:42:11 [Morbus]
the aggregator is similar to radio, without all the fuss.
15:42:16 [redmonk]
i want the plex ;-)
15:42:26 [redmonk]
i'd like to be able to say
15:42:28 [Morbus]
some people over at Forwarding Address: OS X recently swtiched from Radio to Ampheta.
15:42:31 [sbp]
* sbp too
15:42:51 [redmonk]
"stuff from this site, in thie category, goes in this custom channel"
15:43:20 [redmonk]
anyway
15:43:25 [redmonk]
i'll check it out
15:43:28 [redmonk]
URI?
15:46:32 [redmonk]
ok, d/l-ing it
15:46:37 [redmonk]
so, morbus...
15:46:46 [redmonk]
what do you think of redmonk.net?
15:46:56 [redmonk]
if i may ask
15:48:01 [Morbus]
phone
15:49:25 [Morbus]
redmonk: on a side note, i'm the creator of amphetadesk. i tricked you ;)
15:49:58 [Morbus]
and i'm a super fan of bbedit too - i mention them frequenty in my O'Reilly articles on OS X.
15:50:14 [Morbus]
but annnyways, yah, i've read your site for a few months now, and my reading habits ebb and flow with the moon.
15:50:26 [Morbus]
so the fact that you're still in my list suggests that it's content I find worthwhile ;)
15:50:45 [redmonk]
re: creator - i just saw that!
15:50:58 [redmonk]
re: reading - cool!
15:55:09 [redmonk]
re amphetadesk
15:55:23 [redmonk]
will it run on osx - no classic?
16:05:44 [redmonk]
hm.
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16:09:05 [redmonk]
morbus?
16:11:14 [Morbus]
sorry.
16:11:15 [Morbus]
at work.
16:11:18 [Morbus]
afk randomly.
16:11:33 [Morbus]
yeah, it'll run under os x, assuming you know how to install perl modules, and the like.
16:11:37 [Morbus]
i've instructions on it if you wish.
16:11:56 [Morbus]
i've got a native os x gui working on my box, care of deus_x, but that won't be released until the next one
16:14:36 [redmonk]
aw... can i test it? please please? ;-)
16:15:03 [Morbus]
heh, heh.
16:15:09 [redmonk]
oh, and i would like instructions on the os x install
16:15:11 [Morbus]
it won't do you any good.
16:15:17 [Morbus]
the code is changing massively from this release to the next.
16:15:21 [redmonk]
ah
16:15:24 [redmonk]
d'oh!
16:15:26 [redmonk]
;-)
16:15:39 [redmonk]
at least gimme the os x install instructions
16:15:42 [redmonk]
steve@redmonk.net
16:15:45 [Morbus]
yup.
16:15:45 [Morbus]
getting them now.
16:15:47 [Morbus]
its a url.
16:15:50 [redmonk]
thx
16:15:51 [redmonk]
oh ok
16:15:54 [redmonk]
easy enough
16:16:08 [Morbus]
http://cvs.sourceforge.net/cgi-bin/viewcvs.cgi/amphetadesk/AmphetaDesk/README.txt?rev=1.2&content-type=text/vnd.viewcvs-markup
16:16:24 [deus_x]
* deus_x realizes someone mentioned his name, ears perkup
16:16:25 [Morbus]
if you feel up to that, lemme know. there are two more steps (caused by my stupidity) that you'll have to do under os x.
16:16:34 [Morbus]
hey deus :)
16:16:59 [deus_x]
I love xchat for the lil blue tab color when your nick appears in a channel :)
16:17:11 [Morbus]
i have a sound on my box at home.
16:17:13 [redmonk]
hehee
16:17:19 [Morbus]
this client (trillian) doesn't support anything though.
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besides just blinking the window when new text comes in (not key'd text, just any text)
16:19:03 [redmonk]
hey deus
16:19:12 [redmonk]
is arboretum dead?
16:31:50 [deus_x]
redmonk: Not dead, just neglected. I'll eventually be getting back to it.
16:32:14 [deus_x]
I probably shouldn't have spent the time to make a nifty site for it if I didn't have the time to put decent effort into it :)
16:33:48 [redmonk]
hehe
16:33:59 [redmonk]
well, time to go to work. cyall
16:34:09 [deus_x]
I do have nifty plans for it though, I just had a bunch of other little project ideas I wanted to do first :)
16:34:19 [deus_x]
Have fun storming the castle :)
16:34:21 [redmonk]
morbus - will have to hack on amph later - got some errors in bundle::lwp
16:34:35 [redmonk]
it'll take a miracle
16:34:37 [deus_x]
* deus_x realizes he's punctuating sentences with emoticons again.
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16:36:34 [Morbus]
yeah, typical on os x.
16:36:47 [Morbus]
i'll be around - just let me know whenever and i'll help you out.
16:38:20 [sbp]
* sbp listens to SCI; isn't as keen as Aaron seems to be
16:39:29 [sbp]
Heh, listening to "Restless Wind" and then "Immigrant Song" is quite funny
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17:09:44 [sbp]
Morbus, did you know that "guapo" originally meant "scoundrel"?
17:10:07 [Morbus]
nope, i didn't.
17:10:09 [Morbus]
that's hilarious
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* Morbus cackles.
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18:25:41 [Morbus]
wow.
18:25:51 [Morbus]
i just got the greatest compliment in a while from derrick at oreilly.
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18:28:34 [Morbus]
i just got the greatest compliment in a while from derrick at oreilly.
18:31:44 [sbp]
uh huh?
18:31:58 [Morbus]
yeah, lemme spit it out in your clipboard
18:33:21 [sbp]
don't forget to wipe up afterwards
18:33:44 [Morbus]
awww.
18:33:50 [Morbus]
you always make me clean up
18:34:15 [sbp]
well, just in case we have visitors
18:34:24 [hazmat]
anyone know of any python libs for ical?
18:36:48 [MysticOne]
[GlobalNotice] Hey everyone, please bear with us while we get things sorted out. Apparently, some of our hubs have lost connectivity in numerous geographic locations. Not sure what the deal is, but we're working on it. We'll give more information as it becomes available. We appreciate your understanding, and as always thank you for using Open Projects.
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18:42:26 [sbp]
.google python libs for ical
18:42:27 [xena]
python libs for ical: http://wuarchive.wustl.edu/systems/linux/mklinux/DR3/RedHat/base/comps
18:47:24 [hazmat]
i've been looking, haven't found anything thats remotely useful.
18:48:29 [sbp]
Hmm...
18:49:01 [MysticOne]
[GlobalNotice] Okay, most of the servers and all are back up now. A few hubs have lost connectivity, as well as a few normal servers, and unfortunately services. It looks like the possibility of a few backbone providers having a few lines cut, though I'm not completely sure on that.
18:49:44 [MysticOne]
[GlobalNotice] Anyway, we're still working on it, though the stability will have hopefully returned for now. Again, we really appreciate your understanding in this matter, as well as your patronage for the Open Projects Network.
18:54:37 [AaronSw]
lol:
18:54:37 [AaronSw]
<Morbus> ah. ever tried amphetadesk?
18:54:37 [AaronSw]
<Morbus> that's what i used. pretty good.
18:55:02 [AaronSw]
heh! and morbus keeps going on about it...
18:55:19 [AaronSw]
heh:
18:55:19 [AaronSw]
<Morbus> redmonk: on a side note, i'm the creator of amphetadesk. i tricked you ;)
18:56:44 [MysticOne]
[GlobalNotice] Okay, last one unless anything else pops up. Services are back and looks like we're in business. Though we couldn't have forseen it, apologies for the interruption in services. Every have a great day! :)
18:56:46 [Morbus]
heheheh.
18:56:49 [Morbus]
hi AaronSw :)
18:57:16 [AaronSw]
hi
18:58:49 [AaronSw]
sbp didn't like SCI. aww.
18:59:15 [AaronSw]
They're like good jazz.
19:06:29 [AaronSw]
cool, they're coming to chicago in april!
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19:16:54 [AaronSw]
hello
19:30:42 [Morbus]
.wn Synchronicity
19:30:43 [xena]
synchronicity defined as:
19:30:44 [xena]
- n : the relation that exists when things occur at the same time; "the drug produces an increased synchrony of the brain waves" [syn: {synchronism}, {synchrony}, {synchroneity}, {synchronization}, {synchronisation}, {synchronizing}] [ant: {asynchronism}, {asynchronism}, {asynchronism}]
19:31:30 [AaronSw]
NeXT update:
19:31:32 [AaronSw]
The cube doesn't boot: it just makes a loud grinding noise. The pizza box boots fine, and we can log in as guest, but we really need a mouse for it.
19:31:42 [Morbus]
:(
19:32:04 [AaronSw]
We got a cube and a pizza box yesterday, but only one (black-and-white) monitor.
19:32:15 [AaronSw]
seems like redmonk has some next thing too
20:04:59 [sbp]
SCI: didn't like them, didn't dislike them. I'm undecided at the moment - I guess I need to listen to more of their stuff
20:18:33 [deus_x]
Heh, the xml-rpc that would not die.
20:19:18 [deus_x]
A co-worker keeps telling me "XML-RPC's dead, use SOAP!
20:19:31 [sbp]
lol
20:19:40 [deus_x]
and then I show him the dozen or so new things people did with XML-RPC this week, and the arguments people are having about SOAP.
20:20:11 [sbp]
aaah, the weird and wacky world of webservices
20:20:23 [Morbus]
ack! sbp said "web services"
20:20:25 [Morbus]
<g>
20:20:33 [deus_x]
(This in reference to the latest lil XML-RPC calls from Adobe's SVG viewer on http://www.protocol7.com)
20:20:36 [sbp]
heh
20:26:44 [sbp]
things to avoid during interviews, part 1: apodyopsis
20:27:04 [AaronSw]
.wn apodyopsis
20:27:20 [AaronSw]
.define apodyopsis
20:27:41 [AaronSw]
.webster apodyopsis
20:27:51 [sbp]
heh, heh
20:28:19 [AaronSw]
ah, it's in the grandiloquent dictionary
20:31:15 [sbp]
does that mean that I slipped into grandiloquese?
20:32:08 [AaronSw]
perhaps so
20:32:46 [sbp]
I have to say, #swhack can actually be quite annoying sometimes
20:33:11 [sbp]
whenever I search for stuff, all I get it #swhack, #swhack, and more #swhack. Research has become impossible
20:33:16 [sbp]
for example:-
20:33:18 [sbp]
.google deeley thing wotsit
20:33:19 [xena]
deeley thing wotsit: http://blogspace.com/swhack/chatlogs/2001-12-06.html
20:33:27 [sbp]
I mean, what's up with that?!?!
20:33:59 [sbp]
yes, that's a good example of the sort of thing that I search for daily on Google
20:34:30 [sbp]
but it's a better example of Swhack's nutkicking abilities
20:35:07 [sbp]
ah, crap. Now when I have to do future research on nutkicking, all I'm going to come up with is these logs
20:35:15 [sbp]
that's it! I'm talking off-log from now on
20:35:15 [AaronSw]
why's that?
20:35:25 [sbp]
why's what?
20:37:03 [AaronSw]
Heh!
20:37:03 [AaronSw]
google needs a "o Search the Web ; o Search the Web except Swhack" choice
20:37:33 [sbp]
heh, true
20:39:10 [Morbus]
grumble.
20:39:19 [Morbus]
what's the css to give a table border a color?
20:39:31 [sbp]
table { border-color: Morbus; }
20:39:38 [Morbus]
that's what i have.
20:39:49 [Morbus]
whats the border-width equivalent?
20:39:51 [AaronSw]
there's your problem. Morbus isn't a color
20:40:01 [Morbus]
ie, how do i turn on borders, and choose their appearance.
20:40:52 [sbp]
table { border: 2px solid Morbus; }
20:41:31 [Morbus]
perfect. thanks
20:42:35 [sbp]
what color is Morbus on your box, out of interest?
20:43:27 [sbp]
heh, heh
21:20:29 [AaronSw]
<sbp> what color is Morbus on your box, out of interest?
21:20:29 [AaronSw]
<Morbus> #000, what else ;)
21:20:49 [sbp]
?
21:21:18 [AaronSw]
#000 got ignored by logs
21:21:59 [sbp]
ah
21:22:07 [sbp]
use !!
21:22:15 [sbp]
er... use "!"!
21:22:40 [sbp]
like two little feet: !!
21:23:04 [sbp]
could make one of those coreographic maps deeleys
21:24:45 [sbp]
ii could be two feet the other way
21:24:58 [sbp]
so you can have dancing partners:-
21:24:59 [sbp]
ii
21:25:00 [sbp]
!!
21:25:20 [sbp]
yeeeeeaaaah! ASCII dance routines. I knew #swhack had a purpose...
21:25:25 [sbp]
a reason d'etre
21:27:33 [sbp]
I wonder if there's a technique for typing pseudo-random binary numbers?
21:30:40 [AaronSw]
Heh! "Do you think any of these questions were biassed or prejudicial? If
21:30:40 [AaronSw]
so, don't you think you're being a bit overly sensitive for a pompous blowhard?"
21:30:49 [sbp]
lol
21:30:51 [AaronSw]
sbp, flip a coin?
21:30:56 [sbp]
where's that from?
21:31:08 [AaronSw]
- http://lists.debian.org/debian-vote/2002/debian-vote-200203/msg00087.html
21:31:14 [sbp]
without the aid of coins, computers, or green mice
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21:52:03 [AaronSw]
heh:
21:52:03 [AaronSw]
<Nuke> "can NE1 help me aim nuclear weaponz????? /MSG ME!!"
21:57:28 [Morbus]
here's a question.
21:57:53 [Morbus]
on some sites, and lord knows i can't remember em, i'll see certain words with red squigglies underneath them - like they're a link, but instead of u, its a squiggly.
21:57:57 [Morbus]
i can never get them to do anything.
21:58:01 [Morbus]
anyone have any clue what i'm talking about?
21:58:45 [AaronSw]
what are you surfing in? office 98?
21:59:26 [Morbus]
no, i've seen these on the mac, i swear.
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* Morbus shuffles off to work on 6.