00:00:01 i may have everything messed up 00:00:09 whoops, i do 00:00:18 neat, we've turned into #openacs 00:00:22 ;) 00:00:23 i was reading through SWAG last nigth 00:00:40 i think the cr designers had dublin core in mind when it was designed. 00:00:43 so what i am asking about is dublic core, not RDF 00:01:08 is this channel logged? 00:01:20 yep http://blogspace.com/swhack/chatlogs/ 00:01:28 because i only chat in channels that could ruin my political career 00:01:31 ok, cool 00:01:34 lol! 00:01:47 * hazmat thinks we should head back to #openacs if anyone here is bothered by the topic 00:01:55 no! certainly not 00:01:57 what's the topic again? 00:01:58 cool. 00:02:05 this channel is a free-for all crapfest 00:02:08 dublin core in the oacs content repository 00:02:08 heh, heh. 00:02:13 right. 00:02:15 is this too much innuendo: 00:02:15

In these dull times, you've got plenty of freedom to dive deeper into the Apache Love Pit of Satisfaction. Below, we'll learn a little bit more about the features Apache gives you free of charge. As such, we'll run through each of Apache's default modules and dissect what tricks they provide and how they can succumb to your desires.

00:02:17 not vinod;s pants 00:02:43 no, although I'm sure you mention jello in the next paragraph 00:02:43 anyone know how to turn a next cube on? 00:02:57 you probably just breathe on it, and it springs to life 00:03:08 lol 00:03:41 here's some mod's: 00:03:41

In these dull times, you've got plenty of freedom to dive deeper into the Apache Love Pit of Satisfaction. Below, we'll trace our fingers around the features Apache gives you free of charge. As our excitement heightens, we'll ease our way through each of Apache's default modules and dissect what tricks they provide and how they can succumb to your desires.

00:03:48 so talli if the info is already there, then all thats needed is a template method to export the metadata in rdf/xml. 00:04:02 s/our way through/ourselves in/ 00:04:26 it's all good, it's all good 00:04:51 i'm wodnering now if i should take out the Love Pit. 00:04:57 with the new revisions, i don't think it'd get past the censors 00:05:12 the arms of Apache. 00:05:12 yeah, that sound sbetter 00:05:45 how about just "Pit" 00:05:53 you have to have something a bit dark there 00:05:54 talli has left #swhack 00:06:05 "Apache" and "Pit" really contrast each other well 00:06:23 here's the final, i think 00:06:23

In these dull times, we've got plenty of freedom to fall deeper into the arms of Apache, tracing our fingers around the features we get free of charge. As our excitement heightens, we'll ease ourselves into Apache's default modules and enjoy the tricks they provide and how they can succumb to your desires.

00:06:53 the armpits of apache doesn't sound romanitc. 00:06:53 00:06:57 lol 00:07:01 fair enough 00:14:09 it's crazy how much the next is like os x 00:14:16 except in black and white... 00:16:37 there's a black and white hack for osx. 00:16:37 it inverts the screen colors, i believbe 00:18:12 yeah, that's a 10.0.x feature 00:18:15 * AaronSw is away: dinner 00:30:47 tansaku2 has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 00:38:34 I have a strong urge to be pedantic about something 00:38:36 ah: should "Yeti" be capitalized, or not? 00:38:52 nah. of course not 00:39:03 nope. 00:39:08 but Abominable Snowman should be 00:39:26 same with Bigfoot. 00:39:26 sasquatch should not 00:39:35 but "abominable snowmen"? 00:39:54 hey, why shouldn't sasquatch? 00:40:02 hmm. i would still capitalize it myself. 00:40:08 its like afootbal team.; 00:40:08 sasquatch and yeti's are races. 00:40:11 well, it's not the name of something, then 00:40:23 abominable snowmen can be a race! 00:40:27 Abominable Snowman and Bigfoot are famous personifications of that race 00:40:27 like mouse and Mickey Mouse 00:40:39 I suppose 00:40:44 abominable snowman are yeti. 00:40:46 bigfoot are sasquatch 00:40:52 bigfeet, you mean 00:41:12 heh, heh 00:41:41 O.K., so I shift my attention to "repairsmen" 00:42:00 now, in this case it's not sexist since there aren't any women on the channel that it can possibly refer to 00:42:23 but if a competent female motherboard repairsperson did enter the channel, I'd suddenly become a git 00:42:23 right. 00:42:23 there's no sasquatetta's. 00:42:23 00:42:28 lol 00:42:50 I'd better play it safe 00:42:56 sbp has changed the topic to: Swhack: home of drain-yetis, and competent motherboard repairspeople 00:43:15 wow, that 20 minutes went fast. 00:43:15 * Morbus coughs 00:43:30 heh. You summoned Kronos, eh? 00:43:50 mmhmm. 00:43:56 the stupid little thing bit into my hand, drew blood, and i enjoyed it 00:44:10 sure it wasn't a tick? 00:44:31 i have a tick movie. 00:44:38 .google disobey the horror section tick 00:44:39 disobey the horror section tick: http://www.disobey.com/collected/c_barry_slough/fever_on_a_sunny_day.shtml 00:44:56 "disobey the horror section tick"? 00:45:03 heh. sounds like a foreign translation of a terrorist movie 00:45:34 lol 00:48:45 do folks mind if i bring wallopper in here? 00:48:59 * AaronSw is looking for ways to cut down on channels 00:49:22 wallopper? 00:49:22 what's that? 00:49:30 wallopper: please do 00:49:46 and tell the people who control the wallops that they're being logged! 00:49:54 walloper is my secret weapon in the war on elephants 00:50:17 hey! what's wrong with elephants? 00:50:17 ohhh. 00:50:17 i thought it was some guy in charge of the walls. 00:50:47 walloper (~nobody@63.149.73.20) has joined #swhack 00:51:02 another chapter in the #swhack story is started 00:51:23 "the #swhack story" sounds like a bad documentary film 00:51:32 what do you think I'm working on? 00:52:10 * sbp needs to sketch out a storyboard 00:52:48 AaronSw has changed the topic to: Swhack: home of drain-yetis, and competent motherboard repairspeople 00:53:09 i hate when you set it to black. 00:53:14 hey, when'd i do that? 00:53:15 ACT I. Narrator: An unassuming channel. Nothing out of the ordinary. Suddenly, something stirs! Morbus: OooOh, I have ass-cramp! Narrator: Yes, it's the #swhack story [music] 00:53:18 AaronSw has changed the topic to: Swhack: home of drain-yetis, and competent motherboard repairspeople 00:53:21 sorry, that was total accident 00:53:31 you do that every stinking time 00:53:44 eheehehehe. 00:53:45 i didn't mean to edit the topic 00:53:57 sbp, lol 00:53:57 we should do an mp3 of the play 00:54:05 heh, yeah! 01:00:00 GWS/2.0 01:00:01 ? 01:00:17 Google Web Server 01:00:28 ah 01:02:49 :) 01:04:00 and what are you? 01:04:21 the illusive seanpalmer 01:04:23 http://xmlns.org/0.1/foaf/Person 01:04:47 make that http://xmlns.com/foaf/0.1/Person 01:04:55 heh 01:06:51 I'm a kind of mix of illusive, odd, annoying, pedantic, weird, funny, idiotic, pessimistic, optimistic, sweet, priggish, arrogant, and laughable 01:07:33 (aka ioapwfipospal) 01:07:52 of course, if you'd read my homepage properly, you'd already know 01:08:12 I mean, it's in big letters bordered with a dotted blue outline 01:08:18 what more do you want? 01:08:19 :anargram soap-wifipopal 01:08:34 ? 01:08:57 "illusive, odd, annoying, pedantic, weird, funny, idiotic, pessimistic, optimistic, sweet, priggish, arrogant, and laughable" :acronym "ioapwfipospal" . 01:08:58 ah, right 01:09:05 "ioapwfipospal" :anagram "soap-wifipopal" . 01:09:32 :sbp a :soapWifipopoal . 01:10:40 You've got such a cool homepage. 01:11:01 it just keeps getting odder and odder :-) 01:11:15 odder/better 01:11:46 :SoapWifipopoal rdfs:subClassOf :Illusive, :Odd, :Annoying, :Pedantic, :Weird, :Funny, :Idiotic, :Pessimistic, :Optimistic, :Sweet, :Priggish, :Arrogant, :Laughable . 01:11:50 AaronSw, how do you feel about ocs? 01:11:55 one day, it'll be the only reason for the Web to exist! 01:12:02 Morbus, should be an rss vocab 01:12:50 I still think that your and Connolly's hps are the best 01:13:14 really? even after the redesign of mine? 01:14:03 Hmm... yes. But only because you call me a famous person 01:14:10 heh 01:14:49 wow, how have you been in the news that many times? it's obscene 01:16:02 heh, this doesn't read right: "Brent Simmons is leaving UserLand. Brent always had a provoking thought, a kind word and a helping hand. I wish..." 01:16:10 I think it cut off at a bad place 01:16:27 lol! 01:16:32 heh, heh. That gets my blunder of the week award 01:16:48 it's done automatically by MT 01:17:00 * AaronSw adds some sbp quotes 01:17:41 AaronSw, you should fix that. that's the excerpt? just change the rss to use your EntryBody. it's much better 01:17:48 the excerpt, for me, is useless. 01:18:04 why? 01:18:06 .md5 text 01:18:14 .py import md5 01:18:17 hmm. is there an auto md5er around here? 01:18:23 the funny thing is, I really did read it that way, untill I noticed that all of the others had ellipses after them 01:18:24 .py md5.new('text').hexdigest() 01:18:24 '1cb251ec0d568de6a929b520c4aed8d1' 01:18:25 .md5 text 01:18:38 .md5 text 01:18:50 .md5 text 01:18:52 k 01:18:52 thanks 01:18:59 s/until/unti/ 01:19:42 .py md5.new('http://www.gamegrene.com/index.xml').hexdigest() 01:19:43 heh, heh 01:19:48 """ 01:19:50 I've been in the news several times: Boston Herald, Chicago Tribune, USA Today, Associated Press, Mass High Tech (JPEG), Metafilter, Sunday Times, Eight-Forty-Eight (RealAudio), Ask Tim. 01:19:50 wow, how have you been in the news that many times? it's obscene 01:19:51 """ 01:19:56 * Morbus grumbles 01:20:03 not registered? burn in hell, xena 01:20:04 .py md5.new('http://www.gamegrene.com/index.xml').hexdigest() 01:20:04 '69ef607143c3e0ee3b1d43cfbef4b734' 01:20:15 but that's not the md5 of the content, just the url 01:20:25 yeah, i'm gonna need like 12 more though 01:20:31 http://www.disobey.com/about/presspit.shtml ;) 01:20:31 yeah, I know, AaronSw 01:20:34 then download python you git 01:20:38 ;-) 01:20:41 blogs what? 01:20:52 bah! ;) 01:20:53 [OLM] 01:21:02 Why are you hashing the URIs? 01:21:42 internal ids for a new OPML attr for ampheta 01:21:51 um, weird. 01:22:07 oh wow, I had *huge* lag 01:22:09 hmm? 01:22:09 I was getting bits of your text through like minutes after you wrote it 01:22:11 I didn't even know that Morbus was speaking! 01:22:29 why weird, AaronSw? 01:22:34 what's the point? 01:22:42 why not store the urls themselves? 01:22:49 fink install python 01:23:06 what else would you use for an internal ID? 01:23:11 the urls themselves 01:23:35 or just a number 01:23:39 * Morbus thinks. 01:24:05 welp, i'm gonna be using an ID everywhere to represent the feed in question - in GET/POST's, etc. 01:24:14 so a number would be better then 01:24:20 BLURB:No news today. Go away 01:24:27 and i'd rather not have to worry about encoding chars in the uri. 01:25:13 what sort of number would you suggest AaronSw? i don't want to keep track of "last number used" - i'd rather it be some large very-hard-to-get-similar number 01:25:23 oh, fine 01:25:40 .py import urllib; print urllib.quote('!4æ4õ65ÈÉ6~68656"6A4A4Æ456645D4@6T@6Ð4A656') 01:25:40 ImportError: untrusted dynamic module: _socket 01:25:52 Pff 01:28:24 I should have UTFed it first, anyway 01:29:15 MorbusIff (~Morbus@s100.terminal3.totalnetnh.net) has joined #swhack 01:29:45 * MorbusIff grumbles 01:29:51 logster, where am i? 01:29:52 See http://blogspace.com/swhack/chatlogs/2002-03-06#T01-29-51 01:30:31 so, anyyyways ;) 01:31:58 how about a ten digit number, randomly determined? 01:34:18 wouldn't you rather have one you can be sure won't be repeated? 01:34:38 well, it does't need to be unique across the whole world - just on the user's machine. 01:34:46 i don't want to go nuts with it. 01:35:00 how about 8 alphanum? 01:35:03 i was just gonna use md5, but AaronSatan over there got pissed. 01:35:09 a timestamp with sufficiently high resolution would do 01:36:05 012651Z oh, fine 01:36:22 hmm, what was that in reference to? 01:38:52 any issues with using "date_added" and "date_checked" as attribute names? 01:41:12 davb has left #swhack 01:50:04 * sbp plays Night And Day, Billie Holliday 01:50:16 "I lift this clavicle to worlds without number, and bring a new light to the Way, guiding this gate that all may prosper, those who guide and are guided, who light the Way and bask in the light so given....Behold, I open a new world." 01:50:19 s/Holliday/Holiday/ 01:51:15 Please welcome back simak.openprojects.net in Sydney, Australia! :) 01:51:20 Hmm... 01:51:30 Morbus has quit (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 02:24:50 MorbusIff has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 02:50:06 wow, barlow's daughters are cute: http://www.eff.org/~barlow/Barlowettes(5-00)big.jpg 03:01:47 String Cheese Incident is good! 03:01:49 [some mumbling] 03:01:53 SCI? 03:02:39 @ http://www.stringcheeseincident.com/ 03:02:50 A: The String Cheese Incident from AaronSw 03:03:03 A::A hot new band, with a fun groove. 03:03:05 commented item A 03:03:41 A::John Perry Barlow: ["like Grateful Dead 2.0"|http://news.com.com/2008-1082-843349.html] 03:03:42 commented item A 03:06:54 tansaku2 (~sam@mtl10gw.mtl.t.u-tokyo.ac.jp) has joined #swhack 03:12:22 Pöpli is a nice word 03:12:27 oh, wow! 03:12:33 the meaning of nice changed quickly 03:12:48 in the early 20th century, the current meaning was just a colloquialism 03:12:57 although it had been around a while... 03:28:30 anyone know what backend system handles urls like "http://www.diynet.com/DIY/article/0,2058,3354,FF.html" 03:28:49 storyserver, i think 03:29:00 aah, thanks 03:29:03 does CNET use that? 03:29:04 or did they? 03:29:07 I BELIEVE SO 03:29:10 oops, sorry 03:32:45 .AaronSw { font-transform: lowercase; } 03:32:52 Heh, heh 03:36:07 I have two jobs now 03:36:07 woo woo 03:36:07 and lots of school bullshit 03:36:08 did you get network code working? 03:36:08 Not yet... been busy. 03:36:08 btw: congrats on the RDF thing for lessig 03:36:08 ok 03:36:08 many thanks 03:36:09 did you get linked from somewhere important? 03:36:09 i got 2 hits from your site today 03:36:38 i just added a link to you today 03:37:01 oh 03:37:15 well I suppose that's it then 03:37:28 my weblog has gotten less interesting lately 03:37:32 I'm away from home so damn much 03:38:50 :( 03:39:14 wel most of it is me out hanging out with friends and other useless things 03:39:19 but I have to blow off my steam somewhere 03:40:27 odd that I still have steady readers 03:40:28 I wonder why 03:41:11 everyone probably mistakes me being quiet for me working on something really cool, it's the transmeta effect 03:42:14 you're not? 03:42:28 Heh heh 03:44:42 ssssh 03:44:52 I got that in my email today 03:44:54 interesting 03:44:59 [OLM] 03:46:02 going to sleep everyone, seeya 03:46:03 * jeremiah is back (gone 122:37:51) 03:46:04 (wow) 03:46:06 * jeremiah is away: I'm busy 04:47:32 monokrom has quit ("It ain't easy bein greasy") 05:00:13 sometimes, I could do with a semi-comma 05:00:24 .google "semi-comma" 05:00:24 "semi-comma": http://www.ed-fuzeau.fr/pedago/Francais/Instruments/Carillons_8.asp 05:01:54 perhaps ",," 05:02:17 nah... doesn't look write 05:02:42 even Strunk notes that comma application is difficult: "This rule is difficult to apply; it is frequently hard to decide whether a single word, such as however, or a brief phrase, is or is not parenthetic." 05:02:49 - http://www.bartleby.com/141/strunk.html 05:15:05 oh, awesome! HTML-generating proof notation 05:15:12 see http://www.cs.ucsd.edu/groups/tatami/kumo/exs/sqrt2/SqrtRoot/duck.html 05:15:17 and http://www.cs.ucsd.edu/groups/tatami/kumo/exs/sqrt2/SqrtRoot/page1.html 05:17:55 hmm, awfully stilted 05:46:10 heh: http://www.strw.leidenuniv.nl/~vdmeulen/deeper/Misspellings_of_my_name.html 05:46:14 So far the two new servers we've tried today have both split; so we're not doing great on new server reliability. Removed the one from rotation. If you're interested in helping us by sponsoring a server and have excellent bandwidth and reliability, please take a look at http://openprojects.net/sponsoring_servers.shtml . Thanks! 05:53:27 argh, I just want a list of 1000 common misspellings, or something similar 05:54:34 One of my spelling teachers gave us that. 05:54:44 She had us spell the 500 most mispelled words. 05:55:53 I'm an averagely pitiful speller... I don't mind too much, but I'd like a good spellchecker in Python 05:57:37 ah, the good olde days of English... 06:06:15 redmonk (sid@ip68-2-179-170.ph.ph.cox.net) has joined #swhack 06:06:29 redmonk is now known as rm 06:07:58 hey rm 06:08:41 ello 06:09:05 sup? 06:09:23 just hangin' 06:11:55 how did things end up last night? 06:12:06 i saw the logs - tav showed up? 06:12:11 We gots ourselves a mediator. 06:13:23 ah 06:13:34 things worked out peacably? 06:13:48 (sp?) 06:14:23 not yet, but i think we just need time to heal the wounds. 06:15:10 ah 06:15:13 cool 06:15:19 glad to see things going, though 06:15:41 i need a bit more help understanding how python import modules 06:16:07 if it does not barf on the "import" statement, then it at least found the module, right? 06:16:23 i'd think so 06:18:39 ok, so in my little cgi i 'import eep' 06:18:46 (eep is on site-packages) 06:18:52 and it seems to like that 06:19:07 but if i then call eep.parse() on something... 06:19:40 Gotta run 06:19:56 eep.parse("") NameError: global name 'eep' is not defined 06:19:58 bye 06:20:01 Odd. 06:20:23 yes 06:20:25 even with just that two line script? 06:21:20 [tifighter:/Library/WebServer/CGI-Executables] sid% python 06:21:20 Python 2.2 (#1, Jan 9 2002, 15:28:46) 06:21:20 [GCC 2.95.2 19991024 (release)] on darwin 06:21:20 Type "help", "copyright", "credits" or "license" for more information. 06:21:20 >>> import eep 06:21:21 >>> epp.parse("") 06:21:23 Traceback (most recent call last): 06:21:25 File "", line 1, in ? 06:21:27 NameError: name 'epp' is not defined 06:21:29 >>> 06:21:32 oops 06:21:34 you spelled it epp 06:21:35 :) 06:21:35 doh! 06:21:56 >>> eep.parse("") 06:21:56 Traceback (most recent call last): 06:21:56 File "", line 1, in ? 06:21:57 AttributeError: 'module' object has no attribute 'parse' 06:21:57 >>> 06:22:12 now that's more interesting 06:22:22 can you do: 06:22:24 >>> eep 06:22:27 >>> dir(eep) 06:22:51 >>> eep 06:22:51 06:22:51 >>> dir(eep) 06:22:51 ['__builtins__', '__doc__', '__file__', '__name__', '__path__'] 06:25:46 hm 06:27:01 oh... 06:27:41 where's the eep code? 06:27:49 i don't think parse is in the eep module... 06:28:12 hazmat has quit (Remote closed the connection) 06:30:28 you have a package 06:30:39 what's in the eep directory? 06:30:53 got it 06:31:12 from eep import eep, infer, query 06:31:17 thast works 06:31:20 Cool. 06:31:23 yeah 06:31:29 like, duh 06:31:35 * rm sighs 06:32:52 i'm kindof suprised sean has no "Store" class in eep 06:33:04 do you know why it's like that? 06:33:05