IRC log of swhack on 2002-04-19

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00:03:30 [xoot_]
2! 2!
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00:18:57 [sbp]
+v?
00:19:14 [sbp]
ugh
00:20:13 [AaronSw]
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00:20:16 [AaronSw]
you guys are a bunch of idiots
00:20:22 [sbp]
*chuckle*
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00:21:43 [sbp]
I like swhack. Aaron, do you like swhack too?
00:21:56 [AaronSw]
No. It's filled with idiots.
00:22:03 [sbp]
lol
00:22:07 [AaronSw]
I mean I put it up in 10-foot type!
00:22:13 [AaronSw]
Hellooooooooo?!
00:22:17 [AaronSw]
Anyone inside that brain?
00:22:20 [sbp]
perhaps the 2 was invisible
00:22:23 [AaronSw]
*knock knock*
00:22:33 [sbp]
time for CluePhone, perhaps
00:22:34 [AaronSw]
I guess it's *HOLLOW*!
00:22:57 [xoot_]
xoot_ is now known as CluePhone
00:23:01 [CluePhone]
rrriing! rrrrring!
00:23:04 [CluePhone]
it's for #swhack
00:23:07 [CluePhone]
idiots!
00:23:10 [CluePhone]
CluePhone is now known as loggy__
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loggy__ is now known as _somebody
00:24:14 [_somebody]
a
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_somebody is now known as CluePhone
00:25:50 [CluePhone]
rrring rrring
00:25:52 [CluePhone]
it's for Morbus!
00:25:59 [AaronSw]
Idiot.
00:26:31 [Morbus]
hello, Cluephone!
00:26:33 [Morbus]
what can I do for you?
00:26:41 [CluePhone]
Get a *CLUEEEEEEEE*
00:26:53 [CluePhone]
Was 400 pt type not big enough for you?
00:26:59 [Morbus]
wha? hey, who is this? this isn't funny!
00:27:02 [CluePhone]
apparently not, because you couldn't see the *TWOOOOOOOO*
00:27:10 [AaronSw]
Idiot.
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00:28:24 [Morbus]
i heart omnioutliner
00:28:33 [CluePhone]
Hello?
00:28:37 [sbp]
swhack swhack = ?
00:28:40 [CluePhone]
Is that all you can say for your self?
00:28:50 [BenSw]
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00:28:50 [CluePhone]
Geez, I even said "2! 2!"
00:28:53 [BenSw]
hello
00:29:04 [AaronSw]
Shut up.
00:29:08 [Morbus]
Ben. long time.
00:29:13 [sbp]
Hi Ben. Get a clue! Courtesy of the 2 dispensing CluePhone
00:29:25 [AaronSw]
swhack. 2. swhack + 2 ...
00:29:30 [AaronSw]
aaargh!
00:29:36 [Morbus]
AaronSw, you talking to me?
00:29:44 [AaronSw]
yes i'm talking to you!!
00:29:45 [AaronSw]
_ _ ____
00:29:45 [AaronSw]
_____ _| |__ __ _ ___| | _|___ \
00:29:45 [AaronSw]
__\ \ /\ / / '_ \ / _` |/ __| |/ / __) |
00:29:45 [AaronSw]
\__ \\ V V /| | | | (_| | (__| < / __/
00:29:45 [AaronSw]
|___/ \_/\_/ |_| |_|\__,_|\___|_|\_\_____|
00:29:50 [AaronSw]
2! 2! 2!
00:29:54 [BenSw]
what the..
00:30:41 [sbp]
phew
00:31:15 [AaronSw]
* AaronSw bows; credits roll
00:31:19 [AaronSw]
Aaron as Mr. Bitter
00:31:24 [AaronSw]
CluePhone as himself
00:31:36 [AaronSw]
AaronSw as coughing dude
00:31:48 [AaronSw]
spb as Mr. 10 foot type
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CluePhone has quit ("Idiots.")
00:32:04 [BenSw]
* BenSw is really confused
00:32:28 [sbp]
argh. who's this spb guy? he follows me about
00:32:36 [AaronSw]
sbp as spb
00:32:47 [sbp]
heh, heh
00:32:52 [BenSw]
heh
00:33:05 [AaronSw]
[it was too good a typo to resist]
00:33:09 [AaronSw]
THE END
00:33:17 [AaronSw]
[annoying music]
00:33:26 [BenSw]
seems someone was playing around with ascii art
00:33:30 [AaronSw]
this film has been copyrighted in every country and if you do something bad we'll kill you
00:33:38 [BenSw]
heh
00:33:45 [BenSw]
* BenSw does something bad
00:33:57 [AaronSw]
* AaronSw kills BenSw
00:34:09 [BenSw]
nhtr']
00:34:10 [BenSw]
(^
00:34:11 [BenSw]
]u;p]
00:34:13 [BenSw]
,3o
00:34:19 [BenSw]
,3o
00:34:30 [BenSw]
]eeaaronw
00:34:34 [BenSw]
]as[dPOFSD\]
00:34:40 [BenSw]
AAAARFGH!
00:34:42 [BenSw]
* BenSw DIES
00:34:56 [dnm]
Oh man.
00:35:00 [dnm]
THEY'RE INVADING
00:35:04 [dnm]
THE SWARTZFAM
00:35:06 [dnm]
heh
00:35:37 [BenSw]
that was aaron taking overmy computer
00:37:10 [tomch]
* tomch admits he wondered
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00:39:39 [Morbus]
AaronSw!
00:39:45 [Morbus]
you never read my decepticon thing, did you?
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* sbp sits on #swhackattheendoftheuniverse
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redmonk: swhack has moved to #swhackattheendoftheuniverse
00:42:21 [BenSw]
_ _ ____
00:42:29 [BenSw]
<AaronSw> _ _ ____
00:42:29 [BenSw]
<AaronSw> _____ _| |__ __ _ ___| | _|___ \
00:42:29 [BenSw]
<AaronSw> __\ \ /\ / / '_ \ / _` |/ __| |/ / __) |
00:42:29 [BenSw]
<AaronSw> \__ \\ V V /| | | | (_| | (__| < / __/
00:42:29 [BenSw]
<AaronSw> |___/ \_/\_/ |_| |_|\__,_|\___|_|\_\_____|
00:42:29 [BenSw]
<AaronSw> _ _ ____
00:42:31 [BenSw]
<AaronSw> _____ _| |__ __ _ ___| | _|___ \
00:42:33 [BenSw]
<AaronSw> __\ \ /\ / / '_ \ / _` |/ __| |/ / __) |
00:42:35 [BenSw]
<AaronSw> \__ \\ V V /| | | | (_| | (__| < / __/
00:42:37 [BenSw]
<AaronSw> |___/ \_/\_/ |_| |_|\__,_|\___|_|\_\_____|
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00:51:48 [SeanP]
argh, dp is going nuts
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00:53:06 [SeanP]
O.K., I think we're getting somewhere
00:53:15 [SeanP]
aaaargh!
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00:55:04 [sbp]
ping
00:55:06 [sbp]
alright then...
00:55:21 [SeanP]
shall I quit now, then?
00:55:28 [sbp]
you can risk it, I suppose
00:55:34 [SeanP]
here goes...
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00:56:04 [sbp]
sbp has changed the topic to: A multitude of swhacks to you all
00:56:15 [MysticOne]
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00:59:31 [sbp]
heh, that was fun
01:02:02 [Ash_]
Is AaronSw gone yet?
01:02:07 [Ash_]
* Ash_ pops up his periscope
01:02:11 [sbp]
yep
01:02:16 [Ash_]
hehe
01:02:17 [Ash_]
;-)
01:02:29 [Ash_]
I think he got mad at me after my little internet policing episode
01:02:30 [Ash_]
*g*
01:02:41 [sbp]
which bit was that?
01:02:50 [BenSw]
so sbp were can i get sbppad?
01:03:03 [Ash_]
Oh, when I posted the logs and he realized somebody's machine got blown up
01:03:15 [sbp]
what'ssbppad?
01:03:25 [sbp]
ooh, that got de-whitespaceized
01:03:39 [BenSw]
what do you mean?
01:03:44 [Ash_]
BenSw: Try removing all the tree files from your system
01:03:46 [sbp]
I mean: what's sbppad?
01:04:04 [BenSw]
the word proccesser you made in tkinter
01:04:14 [sbp]
oh, you mean editor.py!
01:04:18 [sbp]
.google sbp editor.py
01:04:23 [sbp]
crap
01:04:25 [BenSw]
ya aaron called it seanpad
01:05:20 [sbp]
http://infomesh.net/2002/editor/
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01:33:28 [sbp]
hey!
01:33:33 [sbp]
get back in there
01:33:39 [AaronSw]
in where?
01:33:44 [sbp]
the other swhack
01:34:19 [sbp]
* sbp is still working on a .sig replacement
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01:35:06 [AaronSw]
* AaronSw coughs
01:35:09 [AaronSw]
*cough*
01:35:25 [sbp]
heh, heh
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01:35:41 [AaronSw]
*cough*
01:37:15 [sbp]
VjJWc2JDQmtiMjVsTGlCWmIzVWdiWFZ6ZENCb1lYWmxJR0psWlc0Z2NISmxkSFI1SUdKdmNtVmtM\nZz09
01:37:44 [AaronSw]
what's that supposed to mean?
01:37:48 [sbp]
:-)
01:38:39 [sbp]
just testing out how cryptographically secure some of my .sig sketches are
01:38:47 [AaronSw]
* AaronSw coughs
01:38:51 [sbp]
if you can't crack it, then it's probably too strong
01:39:15 [AaronSw]
the \n seems sorta pointless
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01:40:02 [sbp]
Hmm... you're right, actually
01:40:14 [sbp]
that was just thrown in for good measure
01:40:16 [AaronSw]
I was not bored!
01:40:18 [AaronSw]
it was easy
01:40:21 [sbp]
heh, heh, heh
01:40:23 [AaronSw]
sheesh
01:40:28 [sbp]
yep, too easy, it seems
01:42:13 [sbp]
how about !\xfc\xa8\xba\x07\xad\xb6\x18\xac"Yaj\xf7\xad\xa2\xb7\xad\x86)\xe4m\xab\x1e
01:44:07 [AaronSw]
aa
01:45:09 [sbp]
aa?
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01:48:11 [AaronSw]
am i here?
01:48:33 [sbp]
yes
01:48:44 [AaronSw]
Is this #swhack?
01:49:26 [sbp]
yep
01:49:31 [AaronSw]
Phew.
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01:49:58 [sbp]
er... O.K.
01:50:02 [sbp]
that wasn't at all strange
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01:51:21 [sbp]
O.K., what the smeg are you doing?
01:58:21 [hazmat]
.seen eikeon
01:58:21 [xena]
hazmat: no match found: eikeon
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02:15:25 [AaronSw]
hi there
02:15:42 [sbp]
hello Mr. Swartz
02:15:52 [sbp]
and what for can we do you today?
02:16:23 [AaronSw]
That's a good question
02:16:30 [AaronSw]
But I fear it will take far too long to answer.
02:16:56 [sbp]
right, don't bother then :-)
02:17:18 [sbp]
spare change for a .sig racer, guv'?
02:17:43 [sbp]
Hmm... .sig races would be pretty cool
02:18:11 [sbp]
you'd each be given a random string
02:18:24 [sbp]
and then the person with the highest googlecount for that string after a month wins
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02:24:34 [AaronSw]
tav's autobiography will be titled "Teach Yourself How I Took Over The World in 21 Days"
02:24:41 [AaronSw]
<deltab> taking over the world, one post office at a time
02:28:58 [AaronSw]
Murphy is clearly out to get me tonight.
02:29:07 [AaronSw]
I am going to log off before anything worse happens. Bye all.
02:32:32 [AaronSw]
ok, i lied
02:32:33 [AaronSw]
@ http://openbsd.org/lyrics.html
02:33:09 [chumpy]
A: http://openbsd.org/lyrics.html from AaronSw
02:33:12 [AaronSw]
that was too funny not to share
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02:33:39 [AaronSw]
A:|OpenBSD Song Tracks
02:33:52 [AaronSw]
A::OpenBSD is shipped on a 3-CD set, and the CDs have music tracks!
02:33:55 [chumpy]
titled item A
02:34:02 [AaronSw]
A::The songs are available here in MP3 in OGG.
02:34:12 [chumpy]
commented item A
02:34:30 [chumpy]
commented item A
02:34:36 [AaronSw]
Now I'm gone
02:40:19 [Morbus]
AaronSw, isn't there a way to click URLs in the terminal, and have them launch in the browser?
02:40:23 [Morbus]
i coulda swore there was some hack running aorund for that.
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dnm has changed the topic to: And yea, verily, I behld thee swhack, and it commandeth me unto thine Web.
02:42:08 [dnm]
dnm has changed the topic to: And yea, verily, I beheld thee swhack, and it commandeth me unto thine Web.
02:42:09 [dnm]
woops
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12:58:13 [devlin.openprojects.net]
topic is: And yea, verily, I beheld thee swhack, and it commandeth me unto thine Web.
12:58:13 [devlin.openprojects.net]
Users on #swhack: logster Morbus davb sbp tansaku_xr eikeon deus_x AaronSw +chumpy +walloper +xena oierw barstool Ash_ Seth Ash hazmat deltab +loggy
12:58:53 [AaronSw]
fink list shows source packages, most packages have binaries available thru apt-get
12:59:17 [AaronSw]
with the exact same name
12:59:32 [Morbus]
but fink will show all packages, regardless? like, I don't have to worry about some binary package not showing up under the source list from fink?
13:00:14 [Morbus]
* Morbus goes to dl 1.0rc1
13:02:00 [AaronSw]
of what?
13:02:04 [Morbus]
moz.
13:02:11 [AaronSw]
yeah, fink shows all packages
13:02:13 [Morbus]
for win32. i totally changed subjects just now. sorry ;)
13:02:20 [AaronSw]
some subset have been compiled for apt
13:07:06 [Morbus]
k. thanks for the info.
13:09:34 [Morbus]
i can't believe.
13:09:36 [AaronSw]
heh: "I'm bringing divinity, but I can bring other things."
13:09:39 [Morbus]
a bug i reported a year ago is still here.
13:09:40 [Morbus]
sigh.
13:09:51 [AaronSw]
Maybe it's not a bug.
13:09:59 [AaronSw]
it's a [waves hands meanacingly] feature
13:10:04 [AaronSw]
[www.notabug.com]
13:10:07 [Morbus]
heh. uh. nah, probably not. its not a crashing bug.
13:10:18 [AaronSw]
What site crashes it?
13:10:21 [Morbus]
its a "the more you choose this window, the more it will grow, eventually being larger than your screen"
13:10:47 [AaronSw]
Does this involve pokemon? (I choose you, window47!)
13:10:54 [Morbus]
and I still cant' delete the History on a right click.
13:10:58 [Morbus]
man oh man.
13:11:02 [Morbus]
hehehe.
13:11:09 [Morbus]
no, but apache #6 has a pokemon refernce ;)
13:13:11 [AaronSw]
heh
13:20:56 [Morbus]
ooh. this is nice.
13:21:15 [Morbus]
with the syncasaurus code i have written, I just need a 10 line script run through nightly cron to keep my moz / ie bookmarks sync'd.
13:22:37 [Morbus]
the sucky thing is that the "quick load" moz thing on windows seems to cache the bookmarks.
13:22:55 [Morbus]
so, if i overwrite the bookmarks when that thing is running, it'll replace the new file with its cached copy on the next moz open.
13:22:55 [Morbus]
sigh.
13:24:37 [AaronSw]
ugh, i'm sneezing stuff on my screen again
13:24:41 [AaronSw]
another interesting telecon...
13:24:52 [sbp]
heh, heh
13:25:03 [Morbus]
weird.
13:25:17 [Morbus]
the new moz displays the ampheta page very long - stretched offscreen horizontally, but ie 6 doesn;t.
13:27:01 [AaronSw]
Ooh, Scoble will be at WWW2002
13:27:26 [AaronSw]
right after libby and danbri and chaals
13:27:45 [Morbus]
oh yeah, AaronSw, if you ever write Oreillynet articles, I wrote a perl script last night that will query all your articles looking for new comments posted in the last three days.
13:28:03 [AaronSw]
heh
13:28:03 [Morbus]
its handy when you get tons of comments (people are still commenting on #1 of mine, for instance, and I think #3 has 120+ comments now).
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13:36:18 [Morbus]
wow. neat!
13:36:27 [Morbus]
mozilla allows you to set any folder as a "personal toolbar folder".
13:36:42 [Morbus]
so I don't have to worry about "Links" in IE, and "Personal Toolbar Folder" in MOz.
13:36:49 [Morbus]
i can just Moz to Links.
13:36:50 [Morbus]
yay.
13:37:12 [Morbus]
hey, where'd pixel go?
13:37:16 [Morbus]
its odd for him not to be online.
13:37:24 [sbp]
he got resized, and rounded down
13:37:33 [Morbus]
great!
13:37:36 [Morbus]
that's a loss of quality, for sure.
13:37:37 [Morbus]
sigh.
13:38:44 [Morbus]
huh.
13:38:52 [Morbus]
the os x moz has far more search engines built in than the pc one.
13:39:01 [Morbus]
maybe it sucks in the sherlock files automatically.
13:41:55 [Morbus]
AaronSw, do you have a list, or know of alist, for plugins to moz? like that weblogs.com update thing, and more?
13:42:14 [AaronSw]
there was one at mozdev.org, i think
13:44:53 [AaronSw]
Hm, wonder where jill went.
13:45:37 [sbp]
away?
13:45:48 [Morbus]
yeah, there's a huge list of stuff there.
13:45:55 [Morbus]
whoa, amoeba's still in development? heh.
13:48:10 [Morbus]
LOL:
13:48:13 [Morbus]
yeaaaaahhhhh: http://lodur.mozdev.org/
13:48:17 [Morbus]
man. i'm in heaven! <TG>
13:49:01 [Morbus]
course, there's no code.
13:49:04 [Morbus]
so I spoke too soon.
13:49:08 [Morbus]
heh. but still.
13:49:17 [AaronSw]
but there are screenshots!
13:49:19 [AaronSw]
almost as good
13:49:25 [AaronSw]
oh, wait, there arent'
13:49:30 [Morbus]
there are? i didn't se... yeah <G>
13:50:22 [Morbus]
jeez, it seems a lot of this stuff is vaporwapor.
13:50:31 [Morbus]
vaporware. its like mozillaforge
13:50:32 [AaronSw]
like mozilla? ;)
13:50:39 [Morbus]
hehehe
13:50:50 [sbp]
vaporwapor?! lol
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there you are.
13:51:12 [pixel]
there I am.
13:51:17 [sbp]
here you be
13:51:30 [pixel]
had a meeting this morning, and I got to work late because I had to clean the coils on my air conditioner.
13:52:31 [AaronSw]
that doesn't sound like a fun morning...
13:53:14 [pixel]
not fun, but stress reducing. The damn air conditioner has been freezing up all week, so it was real hot in the house, and I've been searching for the problem all week. finally found it.
13:54:52 [pixel]
so now, I'm much less stressed, since that's one more problem solved.
13:55:08 [Morbus]
wha? http://us.imdb.com/Title?0199709
13:55:25 [sbp]
heh!
13:55:35 [sbp]
Starring... wait for it... Leonard Nimoy!
13:55:41 [Morbus]
hehehe.
13:55:57 [sbp]
that is just *so* cool
13:56:02 [Morbus]
9.2 out of 10.
13:56:08 [pixel]
hehehe
13:56:09 [Morbus]
oh man, *that's* funny.
13:56:13 [Morbus]
this must be an excellent demo <G>
13:56:16 [AaronSw]
"This movie can only be described as an action-packed sexcapade with enough gore to stop the orbit of the moon. Nimoy is right on the money as the saucy, sassy, wisecracking videodisc operator who shoots all the bad guys and gets all the chicks."
13:56:22 [Morbus]
LO
13:56:24 [Morbus]
yeahahah.a
13:56:27 [Morbus]
i was just gonna paste that <G>
13:56:30 [sbp]
me too!
13:56:34 [sbp]
I have it on clipboard
13:56:36 [Morbus]
hdhehehehe
13:56:40 [Morbus]
we all owe cokes! wheee!
13:56:43 [pixel]
At least it wasn't something Like starring: Gary Coleman playing Leonard Nimoy
13:56:44 [sbp]
heh, heh
13:57:02 [Morbus]
i saw some video of gary coleman in his security uniform sitting on top of a car.
13:57:12 [Morbus]
as if that's gonna stop the car. you're gary fuckign coleman. death wish?
13:57:14 [sbp]
that was probably Leonard Nimoy
13:57:18 [Morbus]
heh
13:57:42 [Morbus]
i really wish I coudl delete History items.
13:57:44 [Morbus]
in the sidebar.
13:57:56 [pixel]
in IE?
13:57:56 [sbp]
try selecting them and then pressing delete
13:58:08 [Morbus]
no, in moz.
13:58:09 [pixel]
or right click on them, and click on delete.
13:58:13 [pixel]
oh.
13:58:14 [sbp]
if that doesn't work, try downloading a real browser
13:58:17 [Morbus]
right click/delete is greyed.
13:58:18 [Morbus]
heh.
13:58:21 [pixel]
that's what I'm sayin.
13:58:27 [Morbus]
oOOoH.
13:58:34 [Morbus]
yeah, only the delete key will work.
13:58:38 [Morbus]
talk about innovation.
13:58:43 [sbp]
heh, heh
13:58:45 [pixel]
total genius.
13:58:46 [Morbus]
.google mozilla mouse gestures
13:58:47 [xena]
mozilla mouse gestures: http://optimoz.mozdev.org/gestures
13:58:58 [pixel]
.google mozilla finger gestures
13:58:59 [xena]
mozilla finger gestures: http://optimoz.mozdev.org/piemenus/wishlist.html
13:59:04 [sbp]
Mozilla: one step ahead and eight steps behind
13:59:18 [Morbus]
heh. mouse gestures for moz is supposedly a port of the opera ones.
13:59:31 [pixel]
.google mozilla "finger gestures"
13:59:32 [xena]
mozilla "finger gestures": http://www.nifl.gov/nifl-ann/1997/0031.html&e=747
13:59:40 [pixel]
damn. 404.
13:59:53 [sbp]
.google "finger gestures"
13:59:54 [xena]
"finger gestures": http://www.eng.taoism.org.hk/religious-activities&rituals/talismans-registers&magic-skills/pg4-3-3.asp
14:00:00 [Morbus]
try the later model: http://www.nifl.gov/nifl-ann/1997/0031.html&e=757
14:00:07 [sbp]
heh, heh
14:00:13 [sbp]
pixel: you have to cut the end bit off
14:00:16 [sbp]
.google mozilla "finger gestures"
14:00:16 [xena]
mozilla "finger gestures": http://www.nifl.gov/nifl-ann/1997/0031.html
14:00:21 [sbp]
like that
14:00:33 [pixel]
cool.
14:00:56 [sbp]
quote deeley coming up
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[[[
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In the twilight cast and lit,
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A bird on perch does land and sit,
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No respite from the gloom of night,
14:01:02 [sbp]
Just bird a rest from travel's flight.
14:01:02 [sbp]
14:01:05 [sbp]
Next e'en a garden spade and twine,
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Perpetuate her fretless quine,
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The song of springtime enters June,
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As moss glows green from lamplight moon.
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]]]
14:01:21 [sbp]
now back to your regular programming...
14:01:31 [Morbus]
regular programming. i get it.
14:01:35 [Morbus]
its a double meaning, right?
14:01:40 [Morbus]
* Morbus looks around expectantly.
14:01:51 [sbp]
what's that you say?
14:02:04 [pixel]
I like irregular programming. You know, using LISP or FORTRAN.
14:02:05 [sbp]
heh, yes it does have punnal overtones
14:02:22 [Morbus]
lol: carpal punnal
14:02:27 [Morbus]
heh, heh.
14:02:28 [pixel]
hehehe
14:02:49 [pixel]
I get Carpal Punnal from my Regular Programming.
14:03:38 [sbp]
Python: keeps you regular
14:03:50 [Morbus]
Perl: fucks you up
14:03:54 [sbp]
heh,h eh
14:04:02 [sbp]
Java: bwahahahaha!
14:04:06 [Morbus]
hehehe.
14:04:11 [Morbus]
JavaScript: see above
14:04:15 [sbp]
:-)
14:04:30 [Ash_]
* Ash_ hides
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C : Helps you to view your world.
14:04:56 [Ash_]
chumpy: The buffer overrun language
14:04:56 [chumpy]
Not understood: The buffer overrun language
14:04:59 [Ash_]
ack
14:05:03 [Ash_]
stupid nick complete
14:05:08 [Ash_]
that was supposed to be C:
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hehe
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chuggle
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14:05:31 [Morbus]
argh. mouse gestures won't install!
14:05:39 [Ash_]
mouse gestures are for sucks
14:05:42 [sbp]
heh:-
14:05:42 [Ash_]
use your keyboard
14:05:42 [sbp]
[[[
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If you like this title, we also recommend...
14:05:43 [sbp]
Laserdisc: What it Is (1980) (V)
14:05:44 [sbp]
]]]
14:05:45 [pixel]
LISP: We've got your parentetical containments right here!
14:05:45 [BenSw]
Hello
14:05:55 [sbp]
Hey there
14:05:58 [Morbus]
man, kamen was around back then?
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14:08:20 [Morbus]
anyone ever tried the Java Outline Editor?
14:08:40 [sbp]
JOE?
14:08:49 [Morbus]
yeah.
14:08:52 [Morbus]
ooh. i've been blogged: http://www.zymm.com/raster/
14:08:53 [Ash_]
Morbus: Outlines are for wusses
14:09:09 [Morbus]
* Morbus waves his hands around.
14:09:27 [sbp]
ooh, so has Ash
14:09:32 [Ash_]
what?
14:09:33 [Ash_]
Where?
14:09:38 [sbp]
"""That's ok, we've got Aaron to dive into perl. You can create a 'Google Box' in perl using Net::Google pretty easily... if that's something you really want to do..."""
14:09:59 [Ash_]
Ah good. Wrong Aaron.
14:10:00 [Ash_]
;-)
14:10:06 [sbp]
oh, heh, wrong one
14:10:09 [sbp]
yep, just got it
14:10:24 [sbp]
sbp has changed the topic to: Attack of the Aarons
14:14:29 [AaronSw]
* AaronSw is on telecon...
14:16:13 [sbp]
fancy omitting an indefinite article...
14:16:24 [Morbus]
heh: http://jim.roepcke.com/2064
14:16:51 [Morbus]
oOh!
14:16:53 [sbp]
heh: "(*cough* bullshit *cough*)"
14:17:03 [Morbus]
i beat him. that's april 25th. ampheta supported OPML back in Jan of 2001 ;)
14:17:19 [Morbus]
of course, its not being used as an outline format.
14:18:38 [pixel]
it sort of is.
14:18:48 [pixel]
just not a very deep outline :)
14:19:17 [Ash_]
OPMAL
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OPIUM: Ouline Programattic Interface Under Markup
14:26:45 [sbp]
sbp has changed the topic to: Welcome to swhacky races: stop that Aaron now!
14:26:55 [sbp]
sbp has changed the topic to: Welcome to Swhacky Races: stop that Aaron now!
14:28:14 [Morbus]
whoo!
14:30:34 [sbp]
yeah, I thought it was a good topic too
14:32:00 [sbp]
.google "Lizard Queen"
14:32:00 [xena]
"Lizard Queen": http://www.lizardqueen.com
14:32:23 [sbp]
Mmmkay
14:33:48 [sbp]
.google Morbus and the their
14:33:49 [xena]
Morbus and the their: http://schaller-family.bei.t-online.de/PompeNeues20010728en.html
14:33:52 [sbp]
.google Morbus and the theif
14:33:53 [xena]
Morbus and the theif: http://e.goo.ne.jp/music/content/ARTLISD18801/d/index_nn.asp
14:34:01 [sbp]
.google Morbus and the fair
14:34:02 [xena]
Morbus and the fair: http://blogspace.com/swhack/weblog/2001/11/06
14:34:05 [sbp]
ah
14:34:17 [Morbus]
heh
14:34:24 [sbp]
I wonder what percentage of Morbus and the x searches come up with blogspace?
14:34:38 [Morbus]
.google Morbus and the noisy neighbors from down stairs
14:34:39 [xena]
Morbus and the noisy neighbors from down stairs: http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Fields/4791/aug1883.html
14:34:55 [sbp]
.google Morbus and the giant squirrel
14:34:55 [xena]
Morbus and the giant squirrel: http://www.uia.ac.be/neurobio/CJD/RefInternet/CJD_1993.txt
14:34:58 [sbp]
heh
14:35:01 [Morbus]
"Peaches and apples are in the market and have formed a partnership with cholera morbus."
14:35:08 [Morbus]
and when were they going to tell *me*
14:35:22 [sbp]
heh, heh
14:35:53 [sbp]
"White Men Talk (Morbus kitahara remix)"
14:36:00 [sbp]
kitahara?
14:36:09 [Morbus]
* Morbus shrugs.
14:36:17 [sbp]
heh, it'd be funny if there was some Japanese site that was a shrine to Morbus
14:36:23 [sbp]
now wouldn't that be freaky?
14:36:27 [Morbus]
heh, heh.
14:37:17 [Morbus]
hmm.
14:37:23 [Morbus]
* Morbus tries to solve a tricky Apache config thingy
14:40:40 [sbp]
heh, heh: http://www.engrish.com/images/loax_sign.jpg
14:40:48 [sbp]
via. http://www.engrish.com/recentdiscoveries.html
14:42:52 [Morbus]
heh.
14:42:56 [Morbus]
this is a good page.
14:43:33 [pixel]
very funny.
14:43:38 [pixel]
non stop fright!
14:44:18 [Morbus]
uh.
14:44:24 [Morbus]
why won't mozilla let me bookmark thus.
14:44:32 [sbp]
oh man, this is just brilliant
14:44:32 [sbp]
"for everyone, everywhore"
14:44:33 [pixel]
haha Eric Crapton.
14:44:44 [Morbus]
odd.
14:44:54 [Morbus]
i had to say "File Bookmark" not "Add To Bookmarks". what's that all about?
14:45:03 [sbp]
* sbp wonders what Pumpkin Poo is
14:45:43 [pixel]
I can't believe they're really using R for L. Rocker Room? Like Romper Room?
14:46:50 [pixel]
Pumpkin Poo is what's left when you drop a pumpkin off a 10 story building.
14:47:10 [sbp]
lol! "Come on my house"
14:47:12 [sbp]
heh,h eh
14:47:18 [sbp]
ooh, good product name: "eat me!"
14:47:32 [pixel]
check out the tshirt. at least their teenagers can really express themselves.
14:48:06 [Morbus]
this is so odd.
14:48:08 [pixel]
eat me, damnit. hehehe
14:48:11 [Morbus]
why Add to Bookmarks doesn't work.
14:48:35 [Ash_]
<Morbus> Why am I Mr. Sparkle?
14:49:20 [pixel]
The garden has Horney feel about it.
14:49:52 [sbp]
Ash: lol!
14:50:00 [sbp]
that's exactly where I got it from
14:50:03 [Morbus]
did I really say that?
14:50:04 [sbp]
damn, someone ratted me out
14:50:57 [pixel]
this website is completely hillarious.
14:51:18 [sbp]
I'm surprised that I haven't come across it before
14:51:23 [sbp]
@ http://www.engrish.com/
14:51:38 [Morbus]
huh.
14:51:38 [Ash_]
pumpkin poo
14:51:45 [Morbus]
it is bookmarking them, but under my personal folder, not the root.
14:51:57 [chumpy]
B: http://www.engrish.com/ from sbp
14:53:03 [sbp]
B:|Japanese + English = Engrish
14:53:04 [Morbus]
and I can no longer select "set as new bookmark folder" in the bookmark manager.
14:53:06 [Morbus]
man, this is dumb.
14:53:20 [chumpy]
titled item B
14:56:30 [sbp]
B::Absolutely hillarious. Sample stuff: "Ladies use the word 'sweat' when the feel it best for their best." (from a coffee house sign)
14:56:49 [chumpy]
commented item B
14:57:24 [Morbus]
anyone know where moz prefs are stored?
14:57:26 [Morbus]
is it still the js?
14:58:40 [pixel]
the alst verion I used it was.
14:58:47 [Morbus]
argh,
14:58:49 [pixel]
that wasn't too long ago.
14:58:54 [pixel]
a couple months.
14:58:54 [Morbus]
yeah, there's a prefs.js but it doesn't have the thing I want <G>
14:58:56 [Morbus]
sigh.
14:58:57 [sbp]
lol @ "Fuck the phone" in http://www.engrish.com/fromyou.html
15:03:39 [sbp]
oh, man:-
15:03:40 [sbp]
[[[
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I was in Bangkok, Thailand one day when I saw a beautiful young
15:03:40 [sbp]
woman wearing a T-shirt that read "I trusted the government, now
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my dick glows in the dark"
15:03:41 [sbp]
15:03:41 [sbp]
I asked her if she read or spoke English, she said no.
15:03:43 [sbp]
I didn't have the heart to tell her what she was wearing.
15:03:45 [sbp]
]]] - ibid.
15:03:51 [Morbus]
oOOh.
15:03:56 [Morbus]
<DT><H3 ADD_DATE="961112773" LAST_MODIFIED="1019228550" NEW_BOOKMARK_FOLDER="true" PERSONAL_TOOLBAR_FOLDER="true" ID="NC:PersonalToolbarFolder">Links</H3>
15:04:03 [Morbus]
just remove "NEW_BOOKMARK_FOLDER="true""
15:04:39 [Morbus]
yeah, that works perfect.
15:04:40 [Morbus]
good.
15:04:53 [pixel]
gotta love text-based configs.
15:05:08 [Morbus]
yup :)
15:06:20 [Morbus]
i love bookmakrs.
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<G>
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bawhaha.
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HELL YEAH!
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http://winerlog.inspiredsites.net/
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oh, DW...
15:26:51 [Morbus]
AaronSw, do you still have that AS to iTunes script? i can't find mine.
15:27:47 [sbp]
.google "Applescript to iTunes"
15:27:47 [xena]
"Applescript to iTunes": http://maccentral.macworld.com/storyforum/forums/2001/05/08/soundjam
15:28:12 [Morbus]
.google wmf hack the planet itunes morbus
15:28:13 [xena]
wmf hack the planet itunes morbus: http://wmf.editthispage.com/discuss/msgReader$6189?mode=day
15:28:19 [Morbus]
whoo!
15:28:54 [Morbus]
close enough.
15:28:59 [sbp]
.google hack iTunes, Morbus
15:28:59 [xena]
hack iTunes, Morbus: http://wmf.editthispage.com/discuss/msgReader$6189?mode=day
15:29:01 [Morbus]
remove the /join,
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add a /me.
15:29:32 [Morbus]
mmhmm.
15:29:41 [Morbus]
course, it still has taht problem with multiple windows.
15:29:54 [Morbus]
but I wonder if it'll work better since I now use the tabbed interface in snak
15:30:03 [sbp]
heh, heh. that was such a cool featu^H^H^H^H^Hbug
15:30:13 [Morbus]
heheh. oh yeha ;)
15:30:20 [Morbus]
man, i played with that for hours and hours.
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couldn't figure it out.
15:31:48 [Morbus]
hey sbp, can you read Word files?
15:32:04 [sbp]
yep
15:32:18 [sbp]
but I'll throw them back at you, officially
15:32:27 [Morbus]
right. cos Word is evil (tm)
15:32:31 [sbp]
heh, heh
15:32:47 [sbp]
(Actually, I can't fully read them, but I can usually screen scrape enough)
15:32:56 [Morbus]
sent.
15:33:00 [sbp]
ty
15:40:31 [Ash]
Morbus: It means sbp is easily confused
15:40:51 [sbp]
[OLM]
15:45:14 [Morbus]
MMMm.
15:45:19 [Morbus]
camelbones 0.2 is out.
15:45:30 [Morbus]
http://sourceforge.net/projects/camelbones/
15:45:50 [Morbus]
hehehe.
15:46:07 [Morbus]
"Kindest Regards"? ya wussed out!
15:46:11 [Morbus]
you need a man's signature.
15:46:14 [sbp]
heh, heh
15:46:17 [Morbus]
like "burn in hell"
15:46:19 [sbp]
"Fuck You"?
15:46:28 [Morbus]
no, that may get caught in filters.
15:46:34 [Morbus]
hell, the word "porn" got caught in filters.
15:46:41 [Morbus]
i can't believe the moronic filters now adays.
15:46:43 [sbp]
ugh. what is the word coming too?
15:46:48 [Morbus]
i had to turn a perfectly good porn into pr0n.
15:46:52 [sbp]
er... world
15:47:07 [sbp]
heh: copporn
15:47:07 [pixel]
how about "die focker die"
15:47:23 [Morbus]
that sounds german
15:47:35 [sbp]
the fucker, the!
15:48:07 [pixel]
ever seen the movie "Meet The Parents?"
15:48:21 [sbp]
nope
15:48:31 [sbp]
with Ben Stiller?
15:48:34 [Morbus]
i have.,
15:48:36 [sbp]
it got advertised a lot
15:48:38 [pixel]
the dude's last name was Focker, and Robert DeNiro kept using his last name in funny situations.
15:48:43 [pixel]
yeah. ben Stilelr.
15:48:51 [pixel]
Good movie.
15:50:08 [Morbus]
"like the "Web Accessibility Initiative" from my Good Buddy SBP (greeetz, nigga!), who define all the standards for HTML, XML, and other web based technologies."
15:50:11 [Morbus]
muhahahahahah
15:50:15 [sbp]
heh, heh
15:50:37 [sbp]
s/the standards/the accessibility standards/
15:52:05 [Morbus]
is it Web Accessibility Init, or Web Access Init?
15:52:11 [sbp]
the former
15:52:25 [Morbus]
oh. the bobby website has it wrong then
15:56:39 [Morbus]
mmm. new NTK
15:57:20 [sbp]
NTK?
15:57:24 [sbp]
.google NTK
15:57:25 [xena]
NTK: http://www.ntk.net
15:58:09 [sbp]
oh, N*T*K
15:58:25 [Morbus]
LOL: http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;q161129
15:58:29 [Morbus]
"* The microwave says "nachos", but it sounds like "nauseous"."
15:58:43 [sbp]
heh, NTK is great
15:58:58 [Morbus]
perpetual toast! "# In Discovery Mode, if you click the toaster again, more slices of bread come out than you put in."
15:59:20 [sbp]
heh, heh
15:59:24 [Morbus]
you've read ntk before?
15:59:27 [sbp]
yep
16:00:05 [Morbus]
[[[
16:00:05 [Morbus]
This eldritch patch to the strange and powerful Japanese text-only
16:00:05 [Morbus]
browser W3M does a - thing - which, if God were alive, would
16:00:05 [Morbus]
strike him dead and all his morality.
16:00:06 [Morbus]
]]]
16:00:10 [Morbus]
heheh
16:00:26 [Morbus]
actually, that is cool: http://www.ntk.net/2002/04/19/w3mbbc.png
16:01:19 [sbp]
heh, heh: http://www.ntk.net/2002/04/12/dohsun.gif
16:01:25 [Morbus]
heh, they have an XML-RPC interface: http://covers.wiw.org/xmlrpc.php
16:02:02 [Morbus]
i don't get the dohsun.gif one.
16:02:23 [Morbus]
i know what they mean, but the URL?
16:02:33 [sbp]
at the bottom
16:02:36 [Morbus]
ooOH.
16:02:38 [Morbus]
bwahahaha
16:02:43 [sbp]
:-)
16:03:22 [Morbus]
heh http://sova.lulea.org/
16:03:33 [pixel]
staroffice survery on IIS hehe.
16:03:50 [sbp]
what the smeg?
16:04:13 [Morbus]
"photos that didn't make the school prospectus this year for some reason:"
16:04:22 [sbp]
they need one of those for people on busses
16:07:12 [sbp]
heh, heh:-
16:07:13 [sbp]
[[[
16:07:14 [sbp]
I chose 'nickdastoor' cause it sounds a bit like Nick Dastoor, and 'hotmail.com' cause it sounds a bit like 'hot male cum'.
16:07:14 [sbp]
-- Nick (nickdastoor@hotmail.com), August 30, 2001.
16:07:19 [sbp]
]]] - http://www.greenspun.com/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg.tcl?msg_id=006EPV
16:07:38 [Morbus]
hehehe.
16:08:05 [Morbus]
newly committed to apache cvs:
16:08:09 [Morbus]
[[[
16:08:10 [Morbus]
* fix for an infinite loop in mod_ssl which could be triggered by
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using Netscape Navigator
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]]]
16:08:14 [Morbus]
flippign Netscape.
16:08:56 [sbp]
heh, heh
16:09:37 [Morbus]
awww.
16:09:42 [Morbus]
bookmarket Clean Read doesn't work in moz.
16:11:13 [pixel]
hahaha
16:11:30 [pixel]
wow. you know, Leonard Nimoy must be the person of the day.
16:12:52 [sbp]
heh, heh
16:13:01 [sbp]
- pixel, talking about <sbp> # heh: 'As far as why I chose, "spockcock", it's just because "nudespock@yahoo.com" was already taken, if you can believe that.'
16:13:03 [AaronSw]
* AaronSw looks around for his keyboard and mouse
16:13:14 [AaronSw]
I hate it when people steal them.
16:13:16 [sbp]
- from the same greenspun.com thread
16:13:18 [Morbus]
t2s recognizes irc commands? cool
16:13:34 [Morbus]
er, s2t, rather.
16:13:44 [AaronSw]
Did you guys see Ben take them? Any idea which way he went?
16:13:52 [sbp]
north
16:13:59 [AaronSw]
* AaronSw goes a-hunting
16:14:01 [Morbus]
yeah, but if you turn around, it's south.
16:14:10 [sbp]
if you keep going, it's south
16:14:15 [sbp]
this planet is spherical
16:14:17 [Morbus]
unless you trip.
16:14:21 [sbp]
true
16:14:34 [Morbus]
wait, what did you just say?
16:14:37 [sbp]
true
16:14:41 [Morbus]
no, no, before that.
16:14:44 [sbp]
this planet is spherical
16:14:53 [Morbus]
uh, no, it's not.
16:15:03 [sbp]
it's pretty close
16:15:08 [Morbus]
I'm an Honorary Member of the Flat Earth society, bub.
16:15:14 [Morbus]
And I take offense to those statements.
16:15:17 [Morbus]
So kindly remove your head from your ass.
16:15:22 [sbp]
honorary member: no you're not
16:15:33 [Morbus]
yeah, I know.
16:15:37 [sbp]
heh, heh
16:16:03 [sbp]
come play with xena on th fantastic swhack bonanza extravaganza!
16:16:31 [Morbus]
.google how much does it cost?
16:16:32 [xena]
how much does it cost: http://www.nzpost.co.nz/ebill/cost.html
16:16:33 [sbp]
marvel in the seven ways of Morbus, frembulate in laughter at the mysterious oierw
16:16:53 [Morbus]
.google I don't have an eBill account, xena. do you take cash?
16:16:53 [xena]
no results found.
16:17:01 [Morbus]
.google ok. how about paypal?
16:17:01 [xena]
ok. how about paypal: http://www.hopstudios.com/nep/writings/journal/paypal.html
16:17:16 [Morbus]
.google whoa! paypal will make you rich? tell me more!
16:17:16 [xena]
no results found.
16:17:22 [Morbus]
.google you dont know?
16:17:23 [xena]
you dont know: http://www.diaryland.com
16:17:33 [Morbus]
ack
16:17:34 [sbp]
insert a token now to maintain a shread of decency!
16:17:35 [Morbus]
too much suteness!
16:17:54 [Morbus]
cuteness, even
16:18:20 [sbp]
mythical mumblings reap plextastic rewards for merchant seamen
16:18:33 [sbp]
.google mythical mumblings reap plextastic rewards for merchant seamen
16:18:33 [xena]
no results found.
16:18:39 [sbp]
give it time...
16:18:40 [AaronSw]
witness was quiet at first but torture made him more forthcoming. unfortunately he was forthcoming with liesx
16:18:50 [sbp]
heh
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$ u googlecount Swhack
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that's no good
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heh, Google's first result:-
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[[[
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Request Error
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... invalid command name "render_webpage" while executing "render_webpage {} /web/blogspace/www/swhack/weblog"
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("eval" body line 1) invoked from within "eval ...
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blogspace.com/swhack/weblog/ - 4k - Cached - Similar pages
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]]]
16:20:45 [sbp]
.http://blogspace.com/swhack/
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Swhack HQ Swhack HQ serving some sense sans sloganity, since 2001 Swhack Chat Room (public logs) Swhack Weblog Aaron Swartz and Sean B. Palmer
16:21:01 [sbp]
there's a swhack nuglet if ever you needed it
16:22:04 [AaronSw]
mission accomplished: further demonstration of threats made witness confess to the truth.
16:22:15 [Morbus]
heh, heh.
16:22:50 [AaronSw]
AaronSw has changed the topic to: Leonard Nimoy Day
16:28:28 [Morbus]
heh. from FAIF:
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[[[
16:28:34 [Morbus]
Jeremy Allison, a Sun user during the late 1980s and programmer destined to run his own free software project, Samba, in the 1990s, recalls that reputation with a laugh. During the late 1980s, Allison began using Emacs. Inspired by the program's community-development model, Allison says he sent in a snippet of source code only to have it rejected by Stallman.
16:28:38 [Morbus]
"It was like the Onion headline," Allison says. "`Child's prayers to God answered: No.'"
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]]]
16:29:36 [AaronSw]
what awful backlogs
16:29:42 [sbp]
.google chewbekkah swhack
16:29:43 [xena]
chewbekkah swhack: http://chewbekkah.blogspace.com/swhack/chatlogs
16:29:57 [sbp]
the backlogs have been great today!
16:30:11 [sbp]
the Japenese English thing was hillarious
16:31:01 [Ash]
.google Britney Spears Guide to RDF Inference
16:31:02 [xena]
no results found.
16:31:06 [Ash]
:-(
16:34:29 [sbp]
.google chewbekkah
16:34:29 [xena]
chewbekkah: http://chewbekkah.blogspot.com
16:35:15 [sbp]
Mmmkay
16:36:52 [AaronSw]
I'm tempted to create #sillyness or something for y'all
16:37:27 [Morbus]
OOh. All hail AaronSw. only he has the ability to create #sillyness.
16:37:52 [sbp]
heh, heh
16:37:59 [AaronSw]
Well, it's not so much that as actively kicking people being silly
16:38:05 [AaronSw]
/kick Morbus making fun of me
16:38:09 [Morbus]
hehehe
16:38:58 [AaronSw]
* AaronSw blacklists fraymondl <fraymondl@peoplepc.com>
16:38:59 [sbp]
hey, but the poem was quite good
16:39:03 [AaronSw]
yep
16:39:12 [Morbus]
?
16:39:26 [Morbus]
i can't justify blacklisting *anyone*.
16:39:42 [AaronSw]
Why not?
16:40:02 [Morbus]
well, i dunno this instance, but I don't think that anyone could have absolutely NOTHING to say that I'd want to hear.
16:40:19 [Morbus]
like this guy. maybe he's a moron today, but maybe tomorrow he posts that he reads Scary Godmother. I"d be like, no shit, me too?
16:40:26 [Morbus]
its like the Winer syndrome.
16:40:38 [Morbus]
yeah, he's a flipping moron, but sometimes he's a "oOOh yeah" moron.
16:40:43 [sbp]
fraymondl?
16:40:56 [AaronSw]
Well he loses my attention for being a moron. Like xoot
16:40:59 [Morbus]
i dunno who fraymondl is or what he said today. i'm tlalking generally.
16:41:12 [AaronSw]
he sends me like three pieces of mail per day
16:41:16 [sbp]
ugh
16:41:18 [AaronSw]
about things i don't care
16:41:24 [Morbus]
who is he?
16:41:29 [sbp]
did you tell him politely to go away?
16:41:30 [AaronSw]
no idea
16:41:41 [AaronSw]
away: no
16:41:55 [AaronSw]
because then i might find out who he is
16:42:04 [sbp]
heh. why not try that first? Sorry mate, but I just don't give a crap
16:42:44 [AaronSw]
And then he'll be like "You jerk! I'm your cousin!" and i'll have started a big inter-family war
16:42:50 [Morbus]
heh, he
16:43:24 [sbp]
heh
16:44:17 [AaronSw]
I'm so tempted to click the "delete all messages" link because it's GET not POST. "That'll show them," I think. Then I realize it's on my website.
16:44:32 [AaronSw]
Well, not my website per se, but one i host.
16:44:48 [sbp]
WTG?
16:44:55 [sbp]
where G here stands for Goblin
16:45:23 [AaronSw]
Um. OK
16:46:13 [sbp]
damn right
16:48:16 [AaronSw]
cute: http://www.rightonmac.com/articles/02/04/18-webmail.html
16:48:32 [AaronSw]
they did a very nice copy of iMail
16:49:13 [AaronSw]
"Apple Computer said on Wednesday that 'incredible' demand for its redesigned iMac desktop computer enabled it to eke out slightly higher-than-expected fiscal second-quarter results."
16:50:04 [AaronSw]
Steve: ". . . we have some remarkable new products in development, and we plan to open an additional 20 Apple retail stores by the end of this calendar year.''
16:50:34 [AaronSw]
That ZDNet dude who was going to try and switch to the Mac for a month: "Mac, enhanced by OS X, has a level of simplicity and transparency in operation that allows it to get out of the way and just let me work. That's something Windows never does."
16:50:46 [AaronSw]
- http://www.zdnet.com/anchordesk/stories/story/0,10738,2861736,00.html
16:50:50 [pixel]
still wish I had a newer Mac.
16:52:20 [AaronSw]
Ooh, interesting! Apple's 5-year contract to ship IE with the Mac has expired, and their latest print ad shows Netscape Navigator, not IE, running.
16:52:31 [AaronSw]
Altho that may be because it was aimed at the UNIX market
16:53:19 [AaronSw]
@ http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2002/04/15/BU178503.DTL
16:53:52 [chumpy]
C: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2002/04/15/BU178503.DTL from AaronSw
16:54:00 [AaronSw]
C:|A use for Bluetooth -- goofing off during boring meetings
16:54:07 [AaronSw]
C::by Henry Norr
16:54:18 [chumpy]
titled item C
16:54:25 [pixel]
anyonw know if OSX will run on a powermac/
16:54:36 [chumpy]
commented item C
16:54:41 [AaronSw]
I think it requires a G3 or greater.
16:55:07 [AaronSw]
oh, but there were some folks who hacked it to work, i think
16:55:27 [pixel]
.google OSX powermac install
16:55:28 [xena]
OSX powermac install: http://www.cc.vt.edu/cc/us/docs/faqlib/ask4help/thirdparty/vtkb399.htm
16:55:42 [pixel]
hmm.
16:55:50 [pixel]
.google OSX PowerMac Port
16:55:50 [xena]
OSX PowerMac Port: http://osx.hyperjeff.net/articles/OSXS_and_675.html
16:56:11 [AaronSw]
.google os x performa
16:56:12 [xena]
os x performa: http://www.apple.co.jp/support/performa
16:56:55 [AaronSw]
what did you say your machine was? you may be able to get a CPU upgrade
16:57:40 [sbp]
Gotta run
16:57:54 [AaronSw]
wow, this Crop Circle Music is good
16:58:12 [AaronSw]
Further proof aliens make better music than us
17:00:14 [davb]
crop circle music?
17:00:46 [AaronSw]
.google mp3 crop circle music
17:00:46 [xena]
mp3 crop circle music: http://www.mp3.com/cropcirclemusic
17:00:55 [AaronSw]
it's apparently made from crop circles
17:02:02 [AaronSw]
weird, built into the OS is: http://www.apple.com/fonts/buy/
17:05:20 [AaronSw]
Heh! I was looking thru all the type faces for a nice big slab but round one, and it turned out to be Lucida Grande!
17:07:24 [pixel]
I have 2084 Truetype fonts, if you need some.
17:08:53 [AaronSw]
Ooh, thanks!
17:09:08 [AaronSw]
I'm trying to find the name of the Edward Tufte font, right now...
17:09:08 [pixel]
want me to zip it? its about 108MB unzipped.
17:09:21 [AaronSw]
yeah, sounds like a good idea :)
17:09:39 [davb]
he has his own font?
17:09:48 [pixel]
61 MB zipped.
17:09:51 [AaronSw]
Well, the one he uses on the cover of Visaul Explanations, I mean.
17:10:16 [AaronSw]
and on edwardtufte.com
17:11:00 [pixel]
is he still alive??
17:11:10 [AaronSw]
Tufte? sure! he just gave a talk around here
17:11:29 [pixel]
NO SHIT. for some reason, I figured he was dead.
17:12:03 [pixel]
I just bought "The Visual Displaty of Quantitative Information."
17:12:11 [pixel]
love it. it's actually, laying right open on my desk. hehe
17:12:12 [AaronSw]
Cool, it rocks.
17:12:40 [pixel]
wow. I'd love to go to one of his seminars.
17:12:49 [AaronSw]
http://www.edwardtufte.com/1958906220/tufte/courses
17:13:15 [pixel]
oooh. I'm all tingly inside.
17:13:34 [pixel]
oooooh. one in chicago.
17:13:42 [AaronSw]
You're near Chicago too?
17:13:49 [AaronSw]
here goes: http://www.edwardtufte.com/1958906220/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg.tcl?topic_id=1&msg_id=00009r
17:13:50 [pixel]
I'm in louisville KY.
17:14:18 [pixel]
cool. I hope you find out. I like the fonts he uses. very crisp and clean.
17:15:04 [pixel]
$320 isn't bad, either. ESPECIALLY since itincludes all 3 books!
17:15:27 [AaronSw]
Yeah, I tried to get in for less without buying the books, but he wouldn't have any of it.
17:15:39 [pixel]
heheh
17:15:47 [pixel]
I'd be happy to have the rest of the books.
17:16:02 [AaronSw]
mappa mundi had a good review...
17:16:02 [AaronSw]
.google tufte seminar mundi
17:16:03 [xena]
tufte seminar mundi: http://mappa.mundi.net/trip-m/tufte
17:16:54 [pixel]
Funny, I thought he was dead, mainly because the books are written and laid out in a manner that would indicate they were done in the early 1900s.
17:17:27 [AaronSw]
Heh, heh. He designs them all himself and prints them himself too, I hear.
17:17:30 [pixel]
like : "Animals in Motion" by Eadweard Muybridge.
17:18:12 [pixel]
(that book was actually from 1957, but it was the first one I thought of0
17:18:30 [pixel]
I suppose that style is post 1930ish though.
17:19:40 [AaronSw]
Ooh, Futura is a good font too.
17:19:58 [pixel]
ok. fonts are zipped at: http://www.perceive.net/download/fotns.zip watch out. it's 64.3 MB
17:20:03 [pixel]
oops.
17:20:10 [AaronSw]
awesome, thanks!
17:20:11 [pixel]
http://www.perceive.net/download/fonts.zip
17:20:17 [pixel]
(i misspelled fonts)
17:20:46 [AaronSw]
yowza! 200k/s!
17:20:48 [pixel]
no, thabnk you for the tuffte stuff. I'm gonna have to get my boss to let me go to one!
17:20:55 [AaronSw]
No problem.
17:21:01 [AaronSw]
That's quite a fast connection you got there
17:21:03 [pixel]
(T3 and 2 T1s)
17:23:35 [AaronSw]
* AaronSw sings "Crosstown Traffic"
17:24:46 [davb]
hey! tufte has a messy desk too! http://www.edwardtufte.com/1958906220/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg?msg_id=00008c&topic_id=1&topic=Ask%20E%2eT%2e
17:25:07 [AaronSw]
i don't believe it! crazy...
17:25:16 [Ash]
most productive people have messy desks
17:25:17 [Ash]
;)
17:25:29 [AaronSw]
I guess I'm not productive.
17:25:38 [Ash]
You must not be productive, AaronSw.
17:25:39 [Ash]
:)
17:25:55 [Ash]
My desk was a mess until we had this open house thing here, since the office construction was done
17:26:01 [Ash]
so I had to clean my office up
17:26:05 [Ash]
now I can't find anything :(
17:26:17 [davb]
exactly. those piles have context.
17:26:31 [pixel]
that was a good article too.
17:27:01 [sbp]
crop circle music? heh
17:27:13 [pixel]
I try to clean mine up about once a week, but it actually turns out to be like once every couple months.
17:27:42 [davb]
i was really happy when I saw the picture of donald norman's desk in Psychology of Everyday things...
17:28:40 [sbp]
* sbp still uses good ol' paper
17:29:02 [AaronSw]
I have a paperless office
17:29:20 [davb]
wow. i have officeless paper.
17:29:25 [sbp]
The problem with paper is that it doesn't auto-date itself, and it's difficult to backup
17:29:28 [Ash]
I like paper
17:29:39 [Ash]
I print out code to read it
17:29:45 [Ash]
1200dpi is better than my monitor
17:29:48 [sbp]
heh, me too
17:30:09 [AaronSw]
As McCarthy says it's a good display mechanism, but bad for storage
17:30:37 [Ash]
I had a script when I worked at an old job that would snag all my morning's news and print it out when I logged in in the morning
17:30:59 [Ash]
back in the day when there were more sysadmins than just me
17:31:00 [Ash]
heh
17:32:47 [AaronSw]
wow, os x has a surprising number of nice fonts
17:33:06 [davb]
I usually print out code, then start another project, so by the time I get to the code, it is stale...
17:34:45 [AaronSw]
hm, where did stuffit put all these fonts
17:35:41 [AaronSw]
oh, in Fonts
17:37:13 [AaronSw]
* AaronSw grabs http://pascal.software.free.fr/#Font%20Viewer
17:51:20 [Morbus]
pixel, leave those fonts up for a little bit. i want to grab 'em too.
17:53:42 [davb]
* davb has corel wordperfect
17:53:55 [davb]
something ridiculous like 2000 TT fonts :)
17:54:12 [pixel]
they're not going anywhere.
17:59:33 [Morbus]
AaronSw, do you use a font manager on os x?
18:02:41 [BenSw]
* BenSw is temporarily AaronSw
18:02:50 [BenSw]
one of the fonts wasn't a font and OS X crashed
18:02:58 [BenSw]
I don't use a Font Manager... yet
18:03:00 [Morbus]
heh, heh.
18:03:04 [Morbus]
i've been looking at suitcase.
18:03:10 [BenSw]
is it for OS X?
18:03:15 [Morbus]
yup.
18:03:20 [BenSw]
[there were jpgs and .txts in there!]
18:03:25 [BenSw]
Hm, I'll have to check it out.
18:03:36 [BenSw]
I'm gonna be such a fancy designer dude... Photoshop and Suitcase.
18:03:41 [BenSw]
And 30541425 fonts...
18:04:52 [BenSw]
Whoa, mIRC does multiple networks now? neat
18:05:18 [BenSw]
hm, no copy and paste
18:05:47 [BenSw]
<a> I broke up w/ my gf this morning. it sucks. luckily i have a really bad hangover to keep me occupied
18:05:56 [BenSw]
<b> ah, good. i'd hate for you to be in pain
18:06:37 [BenSw]
hm, fsck is finding lots of probs
18:07:00 [BenSw]
booting up in text/verbose mode is so cool. it's like someone peeled away the screen of OS X and you're looking at the guts
18:07:21 [BenSw]
BenSw is now known as AaronSw`
18:10:05 [AaronSw`]
AaronSw` is now known as auto_aaronsw
18:10:22 [auto_aaronsw]
auto_aaronsw is now known as AaronSw`
18:10:28 [Morbus]
ooh. tabs are a lot faster in moz now.
18:10:34 [Morbus]
which is good. they sucked in the earlier releases.
18:11:44 [AaronSw`]
* AaronSw` checks on os x again
18:12:13 [AaronSw`]
still fscking. the perils of a big disk
18:12:49 [Morbus]
i need another hd.
18:12:52 [Morbus]
only have a 20g.
18:12:55 [Morbus]
my mp3s are half that now.
18:12:56 [AaronSw`]
only?!
18:13:01 [AaronSw`]
sheehs
18:13:03 [Morbus]
heh, heh.
18:13:10 [AaronSw`]
and i thought having 2 days of MP3s was bad
18:13:16 [Morbus]
you don't understand: i collect *everything*.
18:13:20 [AaronSw`]
i understand that
18:13:25 [Morbus]
roms, images, movies, software, blah blah blah.
18:13:37 [AaronSw`]
it's just that you find more everything than i
18:13:39 [Morbus]
i think i have 5 days now.
18:13:50 [AaronSw`]
i archive every fricking web page i visit, man, and i still don't have that much
18:14:01 [Morbus]
ah! hey, that's something i don't archive.
18:14:22 [Morbus]
it'd be easy to have a ... what's the sucker thing?
18:14:30 [Morbus]
i can't remember the name. w* something or other.
18:14:35 [Morbus]
not curl, but the other one.
18:14:38 [AaronSw`]
wgte
18:14:40 [AaronSw`]
err wget
18:14:41 [Morbus]
yeah!
18:14:48 [Morbus]
it'd be easy to set up a wget wrapper daemon.
18:14:56 [Morbus]
that would just look at the history files, and archive anything it sees.
18:15:02 [Morbus]
screw proxy or cache servers ;)
18:16:47 [AaronSw`]
Zooko on trying to find a job: "Knock knock knock. Hi there! Do you need any secure distributed systems designed or implemented?"
18:21:53 [AaronSw`]
Bad MarkBe he's working on windows before os x is out!
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oops.
18:22:26 [AaronSw`]
"Tinderbox for MacOS X is coming very soon. Since Tinderbox comes with a year of FREE updates, the upgrade will be free. In the meantime, Tinderbox runs beautifully as a Classic applications.
18:22:33 [AaronSw`]
". Well that's good
18:22:43 [AaronSw`]
Mark sayts serious programmers need two machines
18:23:01 [Morbus]
two machines? i got os x and classic. works for me.
18:23:12 [Morbus]
i agree with him though.
18:23:13 [Morbus]
;0
18:23:44 [Morbus]
depends, of course, on the software.
18:24:08 [AaronSw`]
he syas it makes im more productive
18:24:09 [Morbus]
you don't need two machines if you're doing stuff over the net. client apps, I think its relatively important.
18:24:15 [Morbus]
more productive?
18:24:19 [AaronSw`]
no wonder timbl make so many tyupois. these win keybords suck
18:24:33 [Morbus]
i dunno how that works. i was more looking at it from the "developer box", "luser box" ideal
18:25:47 [AaronSw`]
"Serious computer people need several machines; computers are much less costly than time.)
18:26:00 [AaronSw`]
his are named hope, pateince and faith
18:26:07 [Morbus]
* Morbus scratches head.
18:26:09 [AaronSw`]
spelled right, of course
18:26:24 [Morbus]
i could see a build machine, sure. that builds the software from cvs.
18:26:43 [Morbus]
... i guess I don't clearly see his point.
18:26:45 [AaronSw`]
from the land of BenSw's AIM: "<sign on> / hi. / gtg. / <sign off>"
18:27:02 [AaronSw`]
* AaronSw` checks os x again
18:27:19 [AaronSw`]
sheesh, still fscking
18:27:24 [AaronSw`]
now i know why people use resierfs
18:33:24 [pixel]
who is ben?
18:33:32 [Morbus]
AaronSw's bro.
18:33:38 [pixel]
ahh.
18:34:05 [AaronSw`]
he's so cute: http://www.aaronsw.com/photos/misc/
18:34:57 [pixel]
i just poured soup in my lap.
18:35:13 [Morbus]
hardening your penis layer for animal sex?
18:35:15 [pixel]
looks like I crapped my pants.
18:35:39 [pixel]
from the wrong side.
18:37:17 [Morbus]
.wn backstopping
18:37:30 [Morbus]
.wn backstop
18:37:30 [xena]
backstop defined as:
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- n : a fence or screen (as behind home plate in baseball) v : act as a backstop, as in baseball
18:39:08 [Morbus]
pixel, i'm installing python tonight. OOh.
18:39:47 [AaronSw`]
to add to weblog list: http://imperialviolet.org
18:39:53 [pixel]
cool. Helped to install raptor the other day. Watchout. Programs may start consuming one another.
18:39:56 [Morbus]
chpater 11 of faif! almost done. i can find catch up on my zillions of single article reads.
18:40:18 [Morbus]
ew, its got a watermark
18:40:43 [AaronSw`]
what does?
18:40:50 [AaronSw`]
pixel, raptor? the rdf parser?
18:40:51 [Morbus]
that impviolet site
18:41:01 [AaronSw`]
hm i dont see it
18:41:02 [pixel]
hehe, actually raptor's a firewall.
18:41:08 [Morbus]
it shows in napster
18:41:10 [Morbus]
er. mozilla.
18:41:14 [Morbus]
where the hell is my head.
18:41:16 [pixel]
at least the on I'm referring to.
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[[[
18:43:25 [Morbus]
The ultimate breach of taboo would come near the end of the show. During a discussion on the growing market dominance of Microsoft Windows or some similar topic, Torvalds admitted to being a fan of Microsoft's PowerPoint slideshow software program. From the perspective of old-line software purists, it was like a Mormon bragging in church about his fondness of whiskey. From the perspective of Torvalds and his growing band of followers, it was simply
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]]]
18:43:29 [Morbus]
here, here!
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- http://faifzilla.org/ch11.html
18:52:09 [AaronSw`]
wow, CD drives spin fast
18:52:22 [AaronSw`]
i stuck my nail in for a sec and it burned it all off
18:53:17 [pixel]
hehehe
18:56:22 [AaronSw`]
argh. this isn't working. it won't boot and when i try and boot off an old cd it kernel panics
18:56:40 [Morbus]
so boot into 9 and diskwarrior it.
18:56:42 [Morbus]
that's what i do.
18:56:49 [pixel]
you might take your finger out of the cdrom drive.
18:56:50 [Morbus]
when it forgets the startup disk / mbr.
18:56:53 [Morbus]
heh!
18:56:58 [pixel]
:)
18:58:43 [Morbus]
i think, with future amphetadesks, i'm going to have minor linux releases, and major binary releases.
18:58:58 [Morbus]
so, like v0.9 would be for mac/pc/linux, but 91 92 93 94, etc. would be source only
18:59:08 [pixel]
that sucks so much.
18:59:23 [pixel]
oh. envermind. you meant .91 .92 .93
18:59:28 [Morbus]
i just don't have the time to make binaries of each and then send them everywhere, and I don't have the time to make a lot of changes that would justify a release.
18:59:29 [Morbus]
right.
18:59:42 [Morbus]
i want to release early/often, but the binary thing is stopping me right now
18:59:42 [pixel]
I thought you mean like "amphetadesk 91"
18:59:51 [pixel]
I totally agree.
18:59:53 [Morbus]
if i can ever finalize the binary wrapper, that won't be an issue.
19:00:03 [pixel]
plus, the people using the source are the people that want to updates all the time.
19:00:29 [Morbus]
if the binary wrapper works the right way, then the pure source would be usable on pc/win with no worries about binaries (since the wrapper would be unchanging)
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i just need time to perfect the binary.
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yay!
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i've been justified:
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[[[
19:05:51 [Morbus]
"Imperfect systems infuriate hackers," observes Steven Levy, another warning I should have listened to before climbing into the car with Stallman. "This is one reason why hackers generally hate driving cars-the system of randomly programmed red lights and oddly laid out one-way streets causes delays which are so goddamn unnecessary [Levy's emphasis] that the impulse is to rearrange signs, open up traffic-light control boxes . . . redesign the entire s
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]]]
19:06:04 [Morbus]
io flipping hate cars. and i don't know how to drive
19:07:28 [pixel]
WOW. I SO agree with that!!! stop lights completely infuriate me. PEOPLE driving infuriates me. they're not logical.
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* Morbus nods.
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'lo
19:08:53 [Morbus]
i have never wanted to learn to drive.
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i walk everywhere. i hate sitting in the passenger seat.
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i zone out.
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think of better things.
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hey monk monk
19:09:21 [pixel]
I wish everything I needed toget to was close. bicycles don't particuarly like me though. I tend to get thrown off them.
19:09:26 [Morbus]
heh, hhe.
19:09:34 [Morbus]
i'm right in the middle of down town, so I can walk everywhere.
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hi morbie
19:09:45 [pixel]
that'd be nice. I live in suburbia.
19:09:47 [Morbus]
the mall is a few miles off, but who needs that when you've got ecommerce ;)
19:10:05 [redmonk]
i have a 26 mi. commute :-(
19:10:20 [Morbus]
i've actually walked to the mall and back before. about two hours both ways. not that big of a deal on a nice day, but hellish on anything over 65.
19:10:47 [pixel]
my commute is about 20 mins.
19:10:58 [Morbus]
it takes me seven minutes to get to work, walking.
19:10:59 [Morbus]
:)
19:11:12 [Morbus]
thats why i have my computer cron'd to dial in at 6:06.
19:11:12 [pixel]
when I lived in my apartment, and worked downtown, I rollerbladed to work a couple times. took me about an hour each way.
19:11:18 [Morbus]
so when I get home, its waiting for me :)
19:11:25 [pixel]
how nice!
19:11:33 [Morbus]
yah, its kinda sweet :)
19:11:36 [pixel]
that's why I got ISDN. always on =)
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hehe
19:11:53 [Morbus]
pff. that's why I don't have anything besides dialup - no guarentee it'll be on.
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of course, if I got to walk to work, I'd cron my dialing too.
19:13:47 [pixel]
I would love so much not to have to pay for car repairs, gas, etc.
19:14:14 [pixel]
they say that we may be moving our computer center about 1 mile from my house though. it keeps my hope up!
19:14:23 [Morbus]
oOOhh...
19:14:29 [Morbus]
then you could string network cables!
19:14:37 [pixel]
they bought 70 acres of land.
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but no buildings yet.
19:15:14 [pixel]
hehe. I can just see my up late one night hanging cable on the power lines or something. hehehe
19:15:33 [pixel]
my DSL is better though, unless they got some better bandwidth here.
19:15:42 [pixel]
I have more bandwidth to my house than they have here.
19:21:27 [AaronSw`]
no wonder os x boots so slowly
19:21:33 [AaronSw`]
it's startup files are in XML!
19:21:49 [AaronSw`]
so i booted off an emergencyt cd and rmeoved the fonts
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so lets see if it works this time
19:22:08 [pixel]
you didn't add ALL those fonts ddi you?
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PRVs will replace cars!
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Personal Recreational Vehice?
19:23:50 [Morbus]
heh, AaronSw, that's what suitcase is for.
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19:23:55 [Morbus]
you don't have to add em all ;)
19:24:06 [Morbus]
yeah, i've got a few pages on the xml format of the startupitems if you want them, AaronSw`.
19:25:03 [pixel]
@ http://www.news24.com/News24/Wheels24/News/0,3999,2-15-47_1168834,00.html
19:25:27 [pixel]
hello chump.
19:26:04 [pixel]
hmph. anyway... that's a link to a story about volkswagen's 235 mpg car.
19:26:12 [chumpy]
D: http://www.news24.com/News24/Wheels24/News/0,3999,2-15-47_1168834,00.html from pixel
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chump is slow.
19:26:20 [pixel]
there he goes.
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D:: Volkswagen introduces 235 mpg car.
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oops.
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commented item D
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D:| Volkswagen introduces 235 mpg car
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titled item D
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D:: Give me one.
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commented item D
19:28:28 [Morbus]
AaronSw`:
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[[[
19:28:32 [Morbus]
John Brown's slave revolt never got going, but during his subsequent trial he effectively roused national demand for abolition. During the Civil War, John Brown was a hero; 100 years after, and for much of the 1900s, history textbooks taught that he was crazy. During the era of legal segregation, while bigotry was shameless, the US partly accepted the story that the South wanted to tell about itself, and history textbooks said many untrue things about
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]]]
19:30:13 [Morbus]
whoo. i'm on the last FAIF chapter.
19:30:36 [pixel]
woohoo.
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I still haven't started.
19:30:48 [Morbus]
i've got something like 40 bookmarks after it waiting to be read :)
19:31:26 [pixel]
I hate it when I can't remember what I was going to do.
19:32:02 [Morbus]
go home. it's 3:30
19:32:11 [pixel]
got here at 8. leave at 4.
19:32:16 [Morbus]
ah
19:32:19 [pixel]
got here late cause I had to fix the air conditioner.
19:32:23 [Morbus]
well, that gives you another half hour to screw around.
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I know. but what should I do!
19:32:38 [Morbus]
you should add some new books to your amazon wishlist.
19:32:47 [pixel]
HAHAHA. have you SEEN my wishlist?
19:32:52 [Morbus]
yup :)
19:32:56 [Morbus]
it was tongue in cheek ;)
19:32:57 [pixel]
like I need more books.
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hehe
19:33:12 [pixel]
actualyl I could add the other two tuffte books.
19:33:15 [Morbus]
i have some ps2 games on mine. got to remove them.
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no time to play.
19:33:26 [Morbus]
no time to read either, but at least they're easier to justify
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dear log readers: i have plenty of time to read. please keep sending books.
19:33:50 [pixel]
yup.
19:34:04 [Morbus]
i've gotten like a dozen books from my wishlist. it rocks.
19:34:14 [pixel]
at least in a year the books will still be interesting. the games might not be.
19:34:32 [pixel]
once I finish reading "Advanced Perl Programming" you'll have another =)
19:34:48 [Morbus]
hehheeh. yay :)
19:34:54 [Morbus]
that'll go on the stack :)
19:35:02 [Morbus]
i'm barely a few chapters from finishing the ora p2p book
19:35:04 [pixel]
of course, I've only read one more chapter since i met you. hehehe
19:35:10 [Morbus]
heh!
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maybe not even that much.
19:35:21 [Morbus]
great! by the time I get it, perl 6 will be out :)
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maybe!
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MORBAS
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morbass?
19:41:57 [AaronSw`]
ISDN isn't always on, it's just faster to dial
19:41:58 [AaronSw`]
ISDN isn't always on, it's just faster to dial
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why is it beeping?
19:42:35 [pixel]
I had a permanent ISDN connection. In three years it lost connection twice.
19:43:00 [GabeW]
i had a permanent dsl connection. In two years it was up for a full week twice.
19:43:17 [AaronSw`]
why are you telling me about john brown?
19:43:34 [pixel]
I've had DSL for about 3 weeks now, and it's been down once, and that's because my daughter unweittingly unplugged it to plug in a phone. hehe
19:44:04 [GabeW]
must not be in pacbell territory
19:44:21 [AaronSw`]
Hm, i had a router that'd automatically dialup the isdn when it got packets
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so it felt like it was always on
19:46:11 [pixel]
Bellsouth.
19:46:16 [pixel]
not much better.
19:46:31 [pixel]
but my ISP is not bellsouth, which helps considerably.
19:46:35 [AaronSw`]
ugh, now it's fscking again and found all the same problems
19:46:46 [pixel]
I'm also listed as a "Business Customer" although I pay the consumer rate.
19:46:51 [GabeW]
from what I gather, its rarely if ever the isp's problem
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at least for pacbell territory
19:47:21 [pixel]
the only benefit I get from using a different ISP is that they can list me as a business customer, which gives a higher availability rating on the line.
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and since I know the owners fo the ISP, that's what I get, in addition to a static IP.
19:49:33 [AaronSw`]
.wn bromide
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bromide defined as:
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- n 1: any of the salts of hydrobromic acid; used as a sedative
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- 2: a trite or obvious remark [syn: {platitude}, {cliche}, {banality}, {commonplace}]
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- 3: sodium or potassium bromide
19:50:53 [Morbus]
monk: http://radiocomments.userland.com/comments?u=1026&p=1569
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[[[
19:57:02 [Morbus]
I must have been arguing on behalf of the publisher to the very end, because in my notes I managed to save a final Stallman chestnut: "I don't care. What they're doing is evil. I can't support evil. Good-bye."
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]]]
19:57:35 [AaronSw`]
ooh, now WO is starting and... blue! we have blue!
19:57:47 [Morbus]
the fsck took that long?
19:57:50 [Morbus]
how big is your drive?
19:57:56 [Morbus]
i've had fsck scans, but nothing that long.
19:57:56 [AaronSw`]
ooh, it booted!
19:58:02 [AaronSw`]
20GB, maybe
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40?
19:58:11 [Morbus]
you know what I have? every reboot, I stall at "Initializing network"
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it takes about a minute to timeout.
19:58:22 [oierw]
who picked the day?
19:58:25 [Morbus]
every reboot. i don't get it.
19:58:27 [AaronSw`]
maybe because you're on DIALUP
19:58:32 [Morbus]
i don't have a network.
19:58:36 [AaronSw`]
oierw, um, pixel, I htink
19:58:38 [AaronSw`]
Morbus, exactly.
19:58:41 [oierw]
ah, good to know
19:58:44 [Morbus]
well, no, I've verbosed it, and it doesn't attempt to dial.
19:58:58 [AaronSw`]
exactly.
19:59:07 [AaronSw`]
ah, 30GB drive
19:59:07 [Morbus]
so... ?
19:59:16 [AaronSw`]
so it sends packets to nowhere and waits for them to come back
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and they don't
19:59:24 [Morbus]
yeah, but why is it trying to do that?
19:59:33 [Morbus]
i have no network settings configured.
19:59:34 [AaronSw`]
beats me
19:59:39 [AaronSw`]
ok, switching machines...
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see you all monday.
19:59:52 [Morbus]
cioa
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AaronSw` is now known as BenSw
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(yes I picked the day. nimoy came up WAY too many times earlier)
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ciao
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* AaronSw sings "all things must pass..."
20:02:25 [AaronSw]
i assume you mean BenSw|friendsHouse
20:02:35 [BenSw|friendshou]
aaron can you put dwarf invasion on a server so i can get it here?
20:02:56 [AaronSw]
hm, let me see
20:03:05 [BenSw|friendshou]
like vorpal
20:03:11 [AaronSw]
i don't have dwarf invasion
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its on the tangerinr
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ooh, but AG does
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i can't donload anything :(
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just a sec...
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only temp stuff
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bwahahahaa
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[[[
20:04:38 [Morbus]
During dinner, I let the women do the talking and spent most of the time trying to detect clues as to whether the last 12 months had softened Stallman in any significant way. I didn't see anything to suggest they had. Although more flirtatious than I remembered-a flirtatiousness spoiled somewhat by the number of times Stallman's eyes seemed to fixate on my wife's chest-Stallman retained the same general level of prickliness. At one point, my wife utte
20:04:38 [Morbus]
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"I hate to break it to you, but there i
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]]]
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ignore last two lines.
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Hm, sbp might like this: http://www.debianplanet.org/article.php?sid=527
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* sbp tries the debian planet thing
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Debian on Windows? Hmm...
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20:33:36 [Morbus]
done the FAIF! yay.
20:34:01 [AaronSw]
:-)
20:34:17 [Morbus]
i get to add that on my book list at home now.
20:34:17 [AaronSw]
I sent him some patches, he hasn't responded yet.
20:34:24 [Morbus]
i've been keeping a book list since 92.
20:34:26 [AaronSw]
What do you keep your book list in?
20:34:36 [Morbus]
right now, its a tab separated.
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title / author / date finished
20:35:12 [AaronSw]
Neat.
20:35:28 [Morbus]
do you keep one? what in?
20:35:41 [Morbus]
i've been meaning to move a lot of stuff into omni, and then export to opml.
20:35:43 [Morbus]
but no time.
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or, at the very least, bring it into omni.
20:36:08 [AaronSw]
I used to keep one in AppleWorks Database
20:36:18 [Morbus]
oOOh. heheh. back on an Apple II?
20:36:27 [AaronSw]
heh, no. on OS 9/X
20:36:29 [AaronSw]
but i've been sorta lax about it lately
20:36:42 [Morbus]
oh. hehehe. <g>. i used to mess with the appleworks db thing. that was ... interesting.
20:37:04 [AaronSw]
It was like FileMaker with a lot of code commented otu ;)
20:37:14 [Morbus]
hehehehe
20:57:49 [Morbus]
ooh. i blogged swhack: http://www.disobey.com/dnn/2002/04/index.shtml#001314
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maybe now I'll be special.
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Morbus: i just released an applescript renderer for OmniOutliner - it'll let you render your outline to html
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http://www.redmonk.net/stories/omniOutlineRenderer
21:11:43 [AaronSw]
redmonk, 404
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boris@constructiontesting.org
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err Can't find a plugin named "WebOutliner".
21:11:54 [Morbus]
redmonk: doesn't it already have an export to html?
21:12:02 [redmonk]
http://www.redmonk.net/stories/omniOutlineRenderers
21:12:12 [redmonk]
yes but it's not very configurable
21:12:32 [Morbus]
cool. i'll try it out tonight.
21:18:30 [sbp]
hello everybody
21:18:31 [sbp]
Gotta run
21:18:36 [AaronSw]
That was fas.
21:29:26 [sbp]
'twas indeed
21:30:10 [AaronSw]
sbp, come join my rdf fatalism in #rdfig
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will do
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Hi Tom
22:25:07 [tomch]
Hello. How's things?
22:25:21 [sbp]
they're fine, thanks for asking
22:25:25 [sbp]
and your things?
22:25:36 [tomch]
good enough :o)
22:28:55 [tomch]
for some reason HTML email *really* *really* annoys me.
22:29:05 [sbp]
it annoys everyone
22:29:16 [tomch]
Oh good.
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I like to see a URL before I go there ;)
22:30:36 [tomch]
without relying on strange gui devices, that is
22:36:02 [AaronSw]
Ooh, I got an email addressed "Dear Google Friend:"
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dammit.
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stupid snak pref's got corrupted
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23:33:50 [sbp]
I mean, there are so many "other" swhack candidates
23:36:32 [sbp]
esoteric chats
23:37:41 [tomch]
I don't like
23:37:56 [sbp]
why not?
23:38:18 [AaronSw]
do
23:38:33 [sbp]
what?! who are you marrying?
23:38:40 [sbp]
oh, there's more :-)
23:38:58 [sbp]
people
23:39:24 [sbp]
shall we sit back and share the huge channels list? actually, better not
23:39:28 [sbp]
Gotta run
23:39:36 [tomch]
bye?
23:42:28 [tomch]
I'm confusing myself.
23:50:43 [sbp]
IMO, logster is a big part of swhack's swhackiness
23:53:39 [AaronSw]
today is another bad day. maybe the weekend will make up for it.
23:53:39 [Seth]
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23:55:26 [AaronSw]
ooh, Crosstown Traffic has lyris
23:59:34 [sbp]
guessing that Aaron's forking experiments are just another gambit in the swhack-nature quest
23:59:36 [sbp]
Pff, of course it has lyrics
23:59:55 [AaronSw]
I was listening to the "Pickin' on Hendrix" version. i like it better