IRC log of swhack on 2002-03-28

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00:00:40 [sbp]
Many \Ma"ny\, n.
00:00:41 [sbp]
[...]
00:00:46 [sbp]
2. A large or considerable number.
00:00:57 [sbp]
=>
00:01:12 [sbp]
Not many: Not a large or considerable number.
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=>
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:NotMany :couldEqual "0" .
00:01:35 [sbp]
* sbp bows
00:02:02 [redmonk]
* redmonk marvels at feats of logic
00:02:15 [Morbus]
i'm working on ampheta. yay!
00:02:24 [sbp]
I'm quite impressive when I get going. You should see me with numberlines
00:02:30 [redmonk]
yay
00:02:35 [redmonk]
(morbus(
00:02:36 [sbp]
WTF is loggy?
00:02:37 [redmonk]
)
00:02:41 [sbp]
)
00:02:47 [redmonk]
heh
00:02:56 [sbp]
you missed one!
00:03:28 [sbp]
LISP would eat you alive
00:03:36 [jillzilla]
It's not every channel that has such displays of synchronized IRCing.
00:03:48 [redmonk]
sbp and i are an act
00:04:03 [redmonk]
* redmonk bows
00:04:08 [jillzilla]
And sbp and Morbus are an act. sbp seems to be drawn to acthood.
00:04:16 [jillzilla]
* jillzilla applauds.
00:04:40 [redmonk]
"IRC: the new Vaudeville"
00:05:25 [sbp]
Have you seen it?
00:05:34 [sbp]
Where's me washboard?
00:05:43 [sbp]
[points under arm]
00:05:44 [sbp]
eh?
00:05:51 [sbp]
'ave ya seen it?
00:06:43 [sbp]
* sbp is cheeky, nimble, and a little bit sassy
00:06:58 [redmonk]
*snap*
00:07:00 [jillzilla]
* jillzilla pinches sbp's cheek.
00:07:07 [sbp]
ooh, er, missus!
00:07:07 [redmonk]
awwww
00:08:22 [sbp]
* sbp hears multitasking
00:10:57 [redmonk]
* redmonk listens to "Mysterious Ways" remix...
00:13:24 [thc]
thc has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out))
00:21:54 [sbp]
The big lemon bug sat in the dippy tree and pondered her new future: "what was I thiking, to romp in the ways of my old cream pie, and subdue the eloquent verse of the harp lumber song!"
00:22:34 [sbp]
Homer: Lumber... we need lumber
00:33:05 [GabeW]
GabeW (~Gabe@12-236-237-100.client.attbi.com) has joined #swhack
00:33:34 [jillzilla]
hey, Gabe.
00:33:56 [GabeW]
what are you doing here?
00:33:58 [sbp]
[sound of Gabe wondering if he's in the right channel]
00:34:12 [GabeW]
yeah
00:34:23 [jillzilla]
* jillzilla feels unwelcome.
00:34:27 [sbp]
noooooo!
00:34:29 [jillzilla]
No, seriously, I'm wasting time.
00:34:31 [Morbus]
NOOO!
00:34:34 [Morbus]
jillzilla!
00:34:38 [Morbus]
i'll tell you a fantasy!
00:34:40 [GabeW]
I'm hardly the personto make you feel unwelcome here
00:34:42 [jillzilla]
* jillzilla blushes. I was just kidding. :-)
00:34:47 [sbp]
* sbp shackles jillzilla to the #swhack fence
00:34:48 [GabeW]
I usually am not as chatty here because its logged ;-)
00:34:56 [Morbus]
terrorist!
00:35:00 [Morbus]
teerRRRrororrist!
00:35:11 [jillzilla]
Hee. I wasn't fishing for compliments, but I'm very cheerful all of a sudden. :-)
00:35:15 [GabeW]
Note to FBI/NSA/DSA/CIA/ - I am not a terrorist
00:35:28 [redmonk]
OHS
00:35:30 [redmonk]
too
00:35:30 [Morbus]
(addendum to note: he's lying)
00:35:38 [GabeW]
Note: Morbus *is* a terrorist
00:35:43 [jillzilla]
note to OSHA: I am being careful of RSI.
00:35:50 [Morbus]
* Morbus eyes get all big.
00:35:52 [redmonk]
heh!
00:36:03 [redmonk]
* redmonk *is* RSI
00:36:03 [Morbus]
* Morbus runs screaming into a building.
00:36:07 [Morbus]
*thunk*
00:36:10 [sbp]
*splutch*
00:36:12 [Morbus]
fall! topple! muhahah!
00:36:22 [redmonk]
morbus respawns
00:36:39 [Morbus]
* Morbus runs screaming into a building.
00:36:50 [jillzilla]
This channel reminds me of the RPG Paranoia. Where you roll up six versions of each character because they die so often.
00:36:52 [redmonk]
* redmonk wonders if OSHA is after him
00:37:00 [Morbus]
heheh
00:37:06 [Morbus]
sounds like CoC too
00:37:11 [jillzilla]
CoC?
00:37:16 [Morbus]
call of cthulhy
00:37:20 [Morbus]
hu, rather
00:37:22 [jillzilla]
<butt-head> You said CoC.
00:37:25 [jillzilla]
</butt-head>
00:37:32 [Morbus]
your investigators have sanity points
00:39:50 [jillzilla]
I just said this on #infoanarchy, but:
00:39:51 [jillzilla]
I think the second-best thing about being employed is the office-supplies cabinet.
00:40:05 [jillzilla]
mmmmmm...pens....
00:40:11 [jillzilla]
* jillzilla goes for some new pens.
00:40:22 [GabeW]
endless supplies of paperclips
00:40:24 [Morbus]
jillzilla, you wanna play in my CoC campaign?
00:40:29 [Morbus]
it's alluring, arousing, and lessens your sanity ;)
00:40:34 [sbp]
better than CaC?
00:40:57 [Morbus]
Command and Conquer?
00:41:03 [redmonk]
* redmonk CaCkles
00:41:08 [sbp]
* sbp loves that game
00:41:32 [Morbus]
paperclips?!
00:41:33 [Morbus]
clippy?!
00:41:35 [Morbus]
die! die!
00:41:40 [Morbus]
* Morbus runs screaming into an office store.
00:42:01 [Morbus]
"it looks like your typing your WILL, clippy?!"
00:42:05 [Morbus]
"let me help you with it!"
00:42:12 [Morbus]
* Morbus staccatos.
00:42:14 [Morbus]
die! die!
00:42:35 [redmonk]
can i put him out of his misery, sbp?
00:42:40 [sbp]
go ahead
00:42:40 [redmonk]
* redmonk warms up railgun
00:42:45 [sbp]
:-)
00:42:49 [redmonk]
*zwang!*
00:42:55 [redmonk]
*splutch*
00:42:59 [Morbus]
* Morbus respawns
00:43:08 [Morbus]
you know, i'll never get tired of #swhack
00:43:13 [redmonk]
lol
00:43:24 [redmonk]
me either i think
00:43:59 [sbp]
* sbp neither
00:44:07 [Morbus]
/me abuse!
00:45:11 [sbp]
and just think: all of this is being logged!
00:45:13 [sbp]
wheeeeee!
00:45:28 [sbp]
no political careers for us
00:45:37 [Morbus]
for the world, nay, for all worlds of all times, to see!
00:45:48 [redmonk]
if that's the ONLY result of this, it's enough
00:45:48 [GabeW]
* GabeW has preserved his political career with those notes to the federal agencies mentioned above!
00:46:07 [Morbus]
don't make me build you a cave!
00:46:08 [sbp]
just you wait till you leave. We'll snitch on ya
00:46:13 [GabeW]
hhe\
00:46:15 [Morbus]
snitch! snitch!
00:46:24 [redmonk]
"yes, Senator, I *do* recal what I said in #swhack on that date..."
00:46:32 [Morbus]
we'll be all like "coo! coo! i'm a motherfucking pigeon, and Gabe is a terrorrist, bittccchhh"
00:46:45 [GabeW]
somehow, I'm not terribly worried about that
00:46:46 [sbp]
indeed
00:47:12 [sbp]
just you wait till Morbus respawns
00:48:00 [Morbus]
oh, yeah, monk!
00:48:10 [Morbus]
oh nevermind.
00:48:12 [Morbus]
i forgot, you were here.
00:48:24 [Morbus]
you know fred gwynn? i think he was the absent minded professor.
00:48:28 [Morbus]
sometimes, i feel like him a lot.
00:48:46 [redmonk]
the absent -minded prof was not fred gwynn
00:48:50 [redmonk]
it was...
00:48:57 [Morbus]
he was the father of my three sons, right?
00:48:58 [redmonk]
guy in a lot of disney movies
00:49:03 [redmonk]
nope
00:49:05 [redmonk]
Car 54
00:49:08 [redmonk]
herman munster
00:49:09 [Morbus]
dammit. ... car 54?
00:49:25 [Morbus]
oh, right, well, i mean, the real absentminded prof... was he also in my three sons?
00:49:30 [redmonk]
yes
00:49:47 [Morbus]
i used to watch donna reed, and dennis the menace. you?
00:49:48 [redmonk]
.google the absent-minded professor
00:49:49 [xena]
the absent-minded professor: http://www.yesterdayland.com/popopedia/shows/movies/mv1004.php
00:50:13 [redmonk]
fred macmurray
00:50:16 [Morbus]
fred macmurray!
00:50:19 [Morbus]
i knew it had a similar name.
00:50:27 [Morbus]
they kinda look the same too.
00:50:32 [Morbus]
an old fred gwynn looked like macmurray.
00:50:33 [redmonk]
yeah a bit
00:50:37 [redmonk]
tall lanky
00:50:40 [redmonk]
goofy ;-0
00:50:41 [sbp]
gwynn and macmurray? those names are not similar
00:50:55 [redmonk]
i bet they're both celtic
00:50:59 [Morbus]
shuddup berry picker.
00:51:27 [Morbus]
you guys! /sips coffee. i am *trying* to *create*! i need silence!
00:51:33 [sbp]
that's like saying that Morbus and Aaron are similar because they both use Macs
00:51:37 [Morbus]
* Morbus fiddles in wiki.
00:51:41 [jillzilla]
* jillzilla caresses her pens.
00:51:44 [Morbus]
AaronSw and I both have penises.
00:51:50 [Morbus]
jillzilla would like to meet each of us.
00:51:59 [sbp]
and a pen
00:52:09 [Morbus]
missed a "i" there, jill.
00:52:11 [jillzilla]
Only if you have really tasty office supplies.
00:52:20 [sbp]
mine are made out of pizza
00:52:22 [Morbus]
ooOh! i have office supplies!
00:52:30 [Morbus]
i have folders! i have many types of paper!
00:52:40 [Morbus]
a stapler, tape, a staple remover.
00:52:42 [Morbus]
and refills for all!
00:52:43 [jillzilla]
* jillzilla yawns. Binders, baby. Talk to me about binders.
00:52:49 [Morbus]
binders!
00:52:49 [jillzilla]
Oooh, stapler!
00:52:55 [Morbus]
i have like ten i'm not even using!
00:52:59 [Morbus]
and not wussly 1" either.
00:53:06 [jillzilla]
rowr.
00:53:06 [Morbus]
D rings, baby!
00:53:15 [sbp]
* sbp seems to recall having like 10 staplers at one point
00:53:19 [sbp]
they're all different sizes
00:53:21 [sbp]
that's the problem
00:53:24 [Morbus]
and if you're feeling particularly saucy, I have black electrical tape for those binding situations.
00:53:31 [sbp]
now, if you want to talk about stapler sizes...
00:53:39 [Morbus]
my stapler is pink!
00:53:42 [Morbus]
* Morbus prances around.
00:53:43 [jillzilla]
black electrical tape is cool when it's left in the sun and gets all gooey.
00:53:50 [sbp]
pink? pink??
00:53:53 [sbp]
pink?!?
00:53:56 [jillzilla]
what size?
00:54:19 [Morbus]
pink!
00:54:24 [Morbus]
lemme turn on my cam. i'll show you.
00:54:27 [sbp]
ooh... GUI
00:55:51 [Morbus]
sean, what's my port 80?
00:55:53 [sbp]
.google "office porn" "naked staplers"
00:55:54 [xena]
no results found.
00:55:55 [Morbus]
i'm too lazy to look.
00:56:01 [sbp]
http://s92.terminal3.totalnetnh.net/
00:56:24 [sbp]
good: jill and Morbus' fantasies will be #1 for that search soon
00:56:59 [jillzilla]
* jillzilla looks innocent.
00:57:28 [sbp]
but she's not really
00:57:38 [jillzilla]
* jillzilla polishes her halo.
00:57:52 [sbp]
what do you use?
00:58:18 [Morbus]
mmkay: http://s92.terminal3.totalnetnh.net//~morbus/webcam.jpg
00:58:44 [sbp]
classic!
00:58:51 [Morbus]
its an adventure in pathological 3d!
00:58:52 [redmonk]
very
00:58:53 [jillzilla]
It's Big. It's Pink!
00:58:56 [sbp]
that's just stunning!
00:59:10 [redmonk]
haha!
00:59:11 [sbp]
it looks like: attack of the giant pink staplers!
00:59:12 [redmonk]
very cool morb
00:59:15 [Morbus]
:)
00:59:25 [redmonk]
naked computing?
00:59:32 [jillzilla]
Do I never delete email?
00:59:35 [redmonk]
btw - what do you use for webcam?
00:59:39 [jillzilla]
* jillzilla deletes piles of electronic crap.
00:59:47 [jillzilla]
Hey, does anyone here run a webcam from a linux box?
00:59:52 [Morbus]
i use a 3com homeconnect that had a beta driver out for Classic.
00:59:57 [Morbus]
its meant for pc only.
01:00:00 [redmonk]
ah
01:00:01 [Morbus]
doesn't work nativley under os x.
01:00:07 [Morbus]
i use coolcam for the cam software.
01:00:11 [redmonk]
* redmonk wants os x compat. webcam + software
01:00:12 [Morbus]
shareware, but unlmited trial
01:00:18 [Morbus]
coolcam has an os x version
01:00:24 [jillzilla]
I have a webcam, and have the kernel module that's supposed to work for it under linux, but have no idea what software to use to grab the images.
01:00:34 [Morbus]
cat /dev/webcam
01:00:36 [Morbus]
;)
01:01:01 [jillzilla]
speaking of webcams and cats, where is Maya?
01:01:12 [Morbus]
the stapler got to her last night
01:01:18 [jillzilla]
tsk tsk.
01:01:39 [sbp]
* sbp is gonna send that photo to WWN
01:01:51 [redmonk]
* redmonk is going o send it to ORA
01:01:56 [sbp]
heh, heh
01:02:03 [Morbus]
jillzilla: there are old maya pictures in the ~morbus root.
01:02:06 [Morbus]
wwn? heh.
01:02:11 [Morbus]
ora?! redmonk.
01:02:13 [Morbus]
check this out:
01:02:36 [redmonk]
* redmonk waits...
01:02:42 [sbp]
* sbp prods Morbus
01:02:50 [Morbus]
argh,
01:02:52 [Morbus]
must find it?
01:02:55 [redmonk]
ha
01:03:18 [Morbus]
this was one i sent for my bio picture on ora:
01:03:18 [Morbus]
http://127.0.0.1/~morbus/33936937.jpg
01:03:22 [Morbus]
er, you know.
01:03:25 [Morbus]
replace with the hostname above ;)
01:04:24 [sbp]
that stapler picture is just hillarious. I'm gonna send it to people and tell them it's me
01:04:31 [Morbus]
heheheheh.
01:04:32 [sbp]
8/10 will believe me, I reckon
01:04:34 [redmonk]
i remember seeing the head shot on your articles...
01:04:41 [redmonk]
you look pathological ;-)
01:04:42 [Morbus]
yeah, that was from a diff image.
01:04:44 [Morbus]
heeheheh
01:04:55 [Morbus]
sbp, lemme know if you do do anything with that image
01:04:56 [Morbus]
:)
01:05:02 [sbp]
he's saying, "I'm hungry. I'm going to eat a frying pan for lunch"
01:05:12 [sbp]
do do: will do
01:05:21 [sbp]
I won't pass it beyond these walls :-)
01:05:29 [Morbus]
hehehe
01:12:51 [redmonk]
anyone know what cvsweb is written in?
01:12:58 [Morbus]
python, i thought.
01:13:03 [redmonk]
hmmm.
01:13:35 [Morbus]
i'm not sure thoguh
01:14:14 [redmonk]
was thinking about rss feeds of last 10 commits...
01:28:03 [Morbus]
sigh.
01:28:11 [Morbus]
amphetadesk beckons, but its bell does not toll for me!
01:29:13 [redmonk]
oh yes it does!
01:29:14 [redmonk]
go
01:29:18 [redmonk]
go!
01:29:35 [redmonk]
i want myy items sorted by time not source!
01:33:52 [jillzilla]
I'm starving. I should have had real lunch.
01:33:52 [redmonk]
you were too busy caressing your pens
01:33:52 [jillzilla]
silly me.
01:33:52 [Morbus]
heh.
01:33:52 [redmonk]
heh
01:33:52 [Morbus]
in the new ampheta, that'd be easy.
01:33:53 [redmonk]
well?
01:33:53 [redmonk]
what are you waiting for?
01:33:53 [Morbus]
look, you <G>
01:33:53 [Morbus]
i need to write another 800 words
01:33:53 [jillzilla]
* jillzilla goes to the kitchen to look for something...anything...must have protein...
01:33:53 [Morbus]
i hear human meat has protein.
01:35:14 [Morbus]
well, fine!
01:36:56 [Morbus]
whoo. i just wrote 4 words!
01:37:07 [sbp]
just one more, and you're done!
01:37:12 [Morbus]
796!
01:39:02 [redmonk]
*poit* *NARF*!
01:39:13 [sbp]
hey, no narfing in here
01:39:33 [Morbus]
what about nerfing?
01:39:59 [Morbus]
i'm gonna get you redmonk! i'm gonna ge...
01:40:04 [Morbus]
*nerfsplotch*
01:40:06 [Morbus]
* Morbus respawns.
01:40:08 [sbp]
nerfing is fine
01:40:11 [redmonk]
lol
01:40:20 [redmonk]
* redmonk loads nerf railgun
01:40:27 [redmonk]
*thwump*!
01:40:32 [redmonk]
*splutch*
01:40:33 [jillzilla]
I know how to say *NARF* in German because I have a copy of the P&tB theme song in that language.
01:40:49 [sbp]
this channel has taken on a whole new meaning since rm and jillllll showed up
01:40:56 [Morbus]
man, i have only gotten another 6 words done.
01:41:02 [Morbus]
this is insane. swhack is bad.
01:41:20 [jillzilla]
Oh, this is a *new* meaning?
01:41:20 [sbp]
but you know you want it
01:41:29 [sbp]
yeah. usually we're civlized
01:41:34 [jillzilla]
* jillzilla goes back to the microwave to show her soup who is boss. brb
01:41:37 [Morbus]
and sober. hiccup!
01:41:43 [Morbus]
what kinda soup!?
01:41:45 [sbp]
heh, I lie. And I can't spell civillized
01:41:52 [Morbus]
dribble it on your breasts! driiible! DRIBBLE!
01:41:57 [Morbus]
uh.
01:41:58 [Morbus]
i mean.
01:41:59 [redmonk]
oh brother
01:42:01 [sbp]
one l
01:42:07 [Morbus]
i'm not your brother!
01:42:20 [Morbus]
why don't you go to oh-town and look
01:42:25 [Morbus]
i hear they're making a band.
01:42:40 [sbp]
the oh-town sound? hillarious
01:42:58 [Morbus]
as opposed to mountumor.
01:43:23 [Morbus]
maybe i should just cut and paste 800 words of swhack and then say "needs revisions"
01:43:26 [sbp]
I'm just lost. http://kigaru.gaiax.com/home/syohei2001 is quite good, though
01:43:29 [sbp]
heh!
01:43:34 [Morbus]
hilarious (HILL)arious.
01:43:47 [Morbus]
humor (MOUNT[ain])umor
01:43:48 [sbp]
ugh
01:43:52 [Morbus]
yeah, i knwo.
01:44:15 [sbp]
I was pronouncing it: high-lair-eeeeee-ous
01:44:19 [Morbus]
aw, maya came to visit me!
01:44:23 [sbp]
which is rare for me
01:44:24 [Morbus]
* Morbus commences heavy petting
01:44:26 [sbp]
* sbp waves to Maya
01:45:05 [Morbus]
* Maya rolls around on the floor
01:45:11 [sbp]
Morbus! jill will be jealous
01:45:22 [sbp]
jealous jill! I deserve an award for that
01:45:26 [Morbus]
maya has more nipples than you, jill, phbtttt!
01:45:56 [jillzilla]
* jillzilla returns. Maya!
01:46:01 [jillzilla]
* jillzilla snuggles Maya.
01:46:01 [redmonk]
(who need pr0n, we have shwack)
01:46:14 [sbp]
shwack? are you drunk?
01:46:24 [redmonk]
not yet!
01:46:28 [sbp]
:-)
01:46:33 [redmonk]
i just can't type ;-)
01:46:34 [jillzilla]
mmmmm...drunkenness...
01:46:35 [sbp]
that's the spirit!
01:46:40 [Morbus]
heheheh
01:46:55 [Morbus]
ooh! the moon's shining in.
01:47:06 [jillzilla]
Morbus: Me spilling food on myself is not particularly erotic. Nor unusual.
01:47:29 [Morbus]
soup isn't food. it's a lotion.
01:47:31 [jillzilla]
This is why I typically wear shirts with the same pattern front and back, so I can turn the shirt around after I spill all it.
01:47:35 [Morbus]
... with chunks
01:47:44 [jillzilla]
still looking for reversible trousers.
01:47:51 [sbp]
there, I learned something tonight
01:47:54 [sbp]
two things!
01:47:54 [Morbus]
why wear shirts? just sya they're tatoos.
01:48:03 [jillzilla]
Two things! Which ones?
01:48:04 [sbp]
a) soup == chunky lotion
01:48:14 [sbp]
b) jill wants reversible trousers
01:48:24 [Morbus]
i have pantaloons!
01:48:33 [jillzilla]
Ohhh, pantaloons would do!
01:48:39 [sbp]
are they reversible?
01:48:42 [jillzilla]
back to the microwave!
01:48:47 [Morbus]
* Morbus turns around...
01:48:49 [Morbus]
yeah!
01:48:52 [sbp]
jill is just a slave for that micro
01:49:09 [Morbus]
this is all ihave writtne.
01:49:10 [Morbus]
thanks swhack.
01:49:10 [Morbus]
You have a need to catalog thousands of image files, but you don't have the time or inclination to create a decent PHP/MySQL
01:49:14 [Morbus]
you know
01:49:24 [Morbus]
when amphetadesk is late, redmonk is gonna be crushed, and its all swhack's fault
01:49:34 [sbp]
yeeeeeeaaah! #swhack rules
01:49:52 [redmonk]
* redmonk hears "amph... late", loads rocket launcher...
01:50:05 [redmonk]
*swoosh*..........
01:50:06 [sbp]
swhack rules are based on Robert's Rules of order. founded in the 1800's, Robert's rules...
01:50:11 [redmonk]
*splutch*
01:50:17 [Morbus]
* Morbus respawns
01:50:21 [sbp]
Morbus! res...ah
01:50:41 [sbp]
...
01:50:52 [Morbus]
you know, there's smething distinctly delicious about reading a cut-off sentence.
01:50:53 [jillzilla]
Aha!
01:50:56 [jillzilla]
Dinner!
01:50:57 [jillzilla]
* jillzilla runs.
01:51:02 [redmonk]
* redmonk looks funny sitting at a tibook with a railgun and rocket launcher
01:51:08 [Morbus]
the laziness between multiple deletes, and a mere ellipses is just ... .. well.
01:51:30 [sbp]
,.-'-.,.-'-.,.-'-.,.-'-.,.-'-.,
01:51:31 [sbp]
indeed
01:51:48 [Morbus]
oh, you just copied that outta some signature block, yu cheater
01:51:54 [sbp]
no way jose!
01:52:07 [Morbus]
jose can you see?
01:52:10 [sbp]
I sat sat and hammered a few dots, bitch
01:52:11 [Morbus]
by the dawn's early light?!
01:52:20 [sbp]
ugh
01:52:42 [redmonk]
* redmonk sighs and looks for chain gun
01:53:05 [redmonk]
* redmonk gives up and chases Morbus with guantlet
01:53:14 [Morbus]
heh.
01:53:14 [redmonk]
*whack*
01:53:18 [Morbus]
ow!
01:53:19 [redmonk]
*splutch*
01:53:31 [sbp]
.google splutch
01:53:32 [xena]
splutch: http://obsidian.wizards.com/stats/tfc/index.php?mode=playerinfo&player=3148
01:53:34 [Morbus]
* Morbus respawns... embarrassed.
01:53:35 [redmonk]
announcer: "HUMILIATION"
01:53:51 [sbp]
man, we're going to womp arse delight on Google with the result for splutch when tyhe new edition arrives
01:53:52 [Morbus]
heh ,heh.
01:54:02 [Morbus]
i just bought virtua fighter 4. good game.
01:54:24 [sbp]
humil! said the seven sailors, cast off to shores under the pine moon sky. Bees? Frees? And the delilah to me
01:54:33 [sbp]
Grrrrrrr
01:54:37 [Morbus]
oh, my darlin'! oh, my darlin'!
01:54:47 [Morbus]
swhack is one big word asssociation to me.
01:54:54 [sbp]
heh, heh
01:55:15 [sbp]
Crescent moon!
01:55:24 [Morbus]
Sailor Uranus!
01:55:30 [jillzilla]
Oh, did I miss the humiliation of Morbus? Pity.
01:55:43 [sbp]
hey, weren't you meant to be eating dinner?
01:55:46 [jillzilla]
I have soup.
01:55:52 [Morbus]
i bet she dropped it on her breast.
01:55:56 [jillzilla]
I'll go for the rest of dinner once I finish the soup.
01:56:04 [sbp]
only one?
01:56:05 [jillzilla]
* jillzilla gazes upon chest lard. No soup yet.
01:56:12 [Morbus]
mMMm. cheestt lard.
01:56:18 [sbp]
heh, cool term
01:56:22 [sbp]
.google "chest lard"
01:56:24 [xena]
"chest lard": http://locococos.tripod.com/hatpicks.htm
01:56:33 [Morbus]
yeah, i just hope mr. trombley doesn't assign us as much homework.
01:57:07 [sbp]
heh, now that's a fun page
01:57:51 [sbp]
heh, if i say "heh," one more time, I go in the Records Book
01:57:55 [Morbus]
heh.ummm.
01:58:00 [jillzilla]
"admire it's [sic] bigness!"
01:58:59 [sbp]
s/he has a significant problem with possesives
01:59:41 [sbp]
I wonder how many people have problems with possums?
01:59:42 [jillzilla]
* jillzilla finishes soup, burps, and heads for the rest of dinner.
01:59:48 [Morbus]
goddamit.
01:59:51 [Morbus]
now i want some soup.
01:59:57 [Morbus]
* Morbus goes to check his soup cupboard
01:59:59 [sbp]
and that brings me to my real question: do you think that wallabys and possums get along?
02:00:10 [jillzilla]
wallabies! O wallabies!
02:00:17 [jillzilla]
stupid animals.
02:00:35 [jillzilla]
little heads the size of a walnet.
02:00:38 [jillzilla]
er, walnut.
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02:00:52 [Morbus]
i'm gonna eat beans instead
02:00:59 [Morbus]
.py hello
02:01:04 [jillzilla]
Should I be glad that you are 3000 miles away?
02:01:06 [sbp]
$ u googlecount wallabies
02:01:12 [CygBot]
> wallabies: 58,300
02:01:13 [CygBot]
> [end]
02:01:17 [sbp]
$ u googlecount wallabys
02:01:23 [CygBot]
> wallabys: 1,210
02:01:23 [CygBot]
> [end]
02:01:27 [sbp]
well, nads
02:01:27 [Morbus]
$ u googlecount naked pictures of jillzilla
02:01:33 [CygBot]
> naked pictures of jillzilla: 0
02:01:33 [CygBot]
> [end]
02:01:40 [Morbus]
dammit, jillzilla!
02:01:42 [Morbus]
bad girl!
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02:01:59 [jillzilla]
sbp: You could just type "wallabys" in and see if you get a spelling correction.
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02:02:11 [jillzilla]
Which you do.
02:02:18 [sbp]
I do do
02:02:22 [jillzilla]
Really off to dinner now! Ta ta!
02:02:26 [sbp]
heh, c'ya
02:02:42 [Morbus]
i'm making beans.
02:02:44 [Morbus]
brb
02:02:47 [sbp]
ta ta is bad for your gums really
02:03:41 [sbp]
I miss redmonk's splutchiness, jill's soupiness, and Morbus' respawniness
02:04:41 [sbp]
if I had said "spawniness", although technically incorrect, it would have made the phrase above much more entertaining, hillarious, and jazzy. I apologize for misleading the public in this way, and hope that everyone missed this comic blunder. thank you for your time
02:05:00 [Morbus]
* Morbus points finger
02:07:24 [sbp]
it's rude to point you arseholistictockaymartistictokay...
02:11:41 [sbp]
and after all, when all is said and done... there's nothing left to say or do
02:11:57 [sbp]
except talk about what's been said and done, perhaps. but that's doing something
02:12:01 [sbp]
what a conundrum!
02:12:40 [Morbus]
604 words.
02:12:41 [Morbus]
whoo!
02:13:10 [sbp]
but there's a gherkin in my cumberbund, and it gives me such delight. what a fraptuous resin, created amidst the old grey embers of the forest mirror
02:13:16 [sbp]
well done
02:13:36 [sbp]
I note that the embers belonged to the mirror
02:13:43 [sbp]
mirrors in the old days used to posses all sorts of things
02:13:54 [Morbus]
200 more words and i can fiddle with ampheta. happy days!
02:13:57 [sbp]
mirrors these days are comparatively poor
02:14:08 [sbp]
it might be argued as to whether they even own the space of wall that they hang on
02:14:16 [sbp]
I would say "yes", that they do
02:14:20 [sbp]
or rather, that they should
02:14:44 [sbp]
but really, this isn't my field. I don't really have much of a background in the rights and privliges of mirrors in this day and age
02:14:56 [sbp]
but when it comes to the rights of ancient mirrors
02:15:02 [sbp]
ah, well, that's a bit different
02:15:09 [Morbus]
o you even participate on mysterylights@yahoo? i unsub'd cos i never saw your comments
02:15:15 [sbp]
actually, no it's not. I don't really know anything about the rights of ancient mirrors either
02:15:32 [sbp]
I wonder if the framemakers for old mirrors were any wiser than the framemakers for today's mirrors?
02:15:38 [sbp]
it might actually be the other way around
02:15:49 [Morbus]
its like shoe cobbling.
02:15:52 [sbp]
I mean, you'd think that the science (or art?) would have progressed a little since then
02:15:58 [Morbus]
there are really no shoe cobblers any more.
02:16:02 [sbp]
participate: not often
02:16:02 [Morbus]
you just buy new shoes.
02:16:10 [sbp]
that's true. Quite saddening
02:16:17 [Morbus]
in the future, there will be new mirrors, you'll just buy bottled water and look at your reflection
02:16:32 [Morbus]
did i ever tell you that evian spelled abckwards is naive? a wonderful statement on the art of buying bottled water
02:16:41 [sbp]
heh, heh, heh
02:16:44 [Morbus]
evian being, a name brand of bottled water.
02:16:53 [sbp]
yep, I know
02:17:00 [sbp]
with no comma
02:17:04 [Morbus]
right
02:17:05 [Morbus]
:)
02:17:20 [Morbus]
ack.
02:17:22 [Morbus]
no mirrors, not new mirros.
02:17:28 [Morbus]
stupid beans. confusing me. <G>
02:17:32 [sbp]
will water be more reflective in the future, then?
02:17:42 [Morbus]
no, our faces will be plainer
02:17:50 [sbp]
ah. could be
02:17:52 [Morbus]
i have a link on that, btw.
02:17:54 [Morbus]
lemme find it.
02:18:11 [Morbus]
http://www.octapod.org.au/webdweller/averageface/
02:18:51 [sbp]
that's quite funny
02:18:54 [deltab]
if the water leaves a metallic film on the bottom of the container, you get a mirror
02:19:14 [sbp]
I think that it's just three people
02:19:21 [sbp]
yeah: because you get internal reflection
02:19:25 [deltab]
so with increased metal content in water, maybe it will become more reflective
02:19:34 [Morbus]
that would make sense.
02:19:42 [Morbus]
becuase a lot of people aren't getting enough iron in their diets
02:19:57 [sbp]
Pff: total internal reflection
02:20:04 [sbp]
well, juist drink mercury
02:20:09 [sbp]
not good for you, but shiny
02:20:52 [sbp]
mercury domes
02:20:56 [sbp]
quite hilarious
02:21:34 [Morbus]
if it were any more hilarious, it'd be not as quite hilarious
02:21:49 [sbp]
that's bollocks, and you kno wit
02:22:00 [sbp]
you have no wit, I mean
02:22:16 [Morbus]
yes, you are.
02:22:28 [sbp]
perhaps I don't. I can't really tell anymore. I'm tired of this conversation. Let's talk about clouds
02:22:40 [sbp]
Gotta run
02:22:47 [Morbus]
you mean, soar.
02:22:51 [Morbus]
into the clouds.
02:22:54 [Morbus]
butterfly in the sky
02:22:59 [Morbus]
i can fly twice as high
02:31:06 [Morbus]
whoo hoo! amphetadesk!
02:37:18 [sbp]
it has been said that Amphetadesk rocks
02:38:26 [sbp]
[lots of sneezing]
02:38:40 [sbp]
well, I'm really going to go, this time
02:39:02 [sbp]
just to note that I'm tired and ill, so the http://blogspace.com/swhack/chatlogs/2002-03-28.txt log should probably be chucked into the well
02:39:23 [Morbus]
sniff.
02:39:24 [sbp]
OTOH, it may be the source of considerable amusement
02:39:32 [sbp]
:-)
02:39:32 [Morbus]
i'll miss you sbp!
02:39:48 [sbp]
well, the sbp client will still be here
02:39:53 [Morbus]
heh.
02:39:54 [sbp]
and you also have xena
02:40:12 [jillzilla]
awww, sbp is ill.
02:40:29 [sbp]
anyway, I think we should have a closedown routine
02:40:36 [sbp]
like, we play the national anthem
02:40:43 [sbp]
and then switch over the teletext
02:40:53 [sbp]
yep. poor me
02:40:59 [sbp]
* sbp sniffles
02:41:00 [jillzilla]
Which nation?
02:41:03 [jillzilla]
* jillzilla sings O Canada.
02:41:16 [sbp]
the Swhack national anthem, of course
02:41:25 [sbp]
that's as good as any
02:41:29 [jillzilla]
What's the tune?
02:41:34 [jillzilla]
* jillzilla attempts to hum it.
02:41:43 [sbp]
* sbp harks back to the South Park T&P movie special
02:42:40 [sbp]
but I'd better not get started on national anthems, else I'll start ranting about small magic butterflies with raddish hats and strawberry umbreallas again
02:43:00 [sbp]
and that won't be pretty. Hmm... well, I guess it is sort of pretty. Even dainty
02:43:09 [jillzilla]
It's utterly charming.
02:43:12 [jillzilla]
Once, but not twice.
02:43:13 [sbp]
anyway
02:43:24 [sbp]
threeeeee times a lady!
02:43:32 [jillzilla]
* jillzilla sways...
02:43:34 [sbp]
and I loooooove, you
02:43:40 [jillzilla]
* jillzilla sniffles.
02:43:53 [sbp]
just give me once
02:43:54 [sbp]
twice
02:43:54 [sbp]
[boom boom]
02:43:54 [sbp]
three times a lady
02:43:55 [sbp]
cause I looooove you
02:43:59 [sbp]
yes I looooove, you
02:44:06 [sbp]
[music]
02:44:06 [sbp]
* sbp bows
02:44:11 [jillzilla]
* jillzilla is touched.
02:44:30 [sbp]
heh. If you heard it in real life, it'd peel the enamel from your teeth
02:44:40 [jillzilla]
This is not real?
02:44:42 [jillzilla]
Uh-oh.
02:44:55 [jillzilla]
* jillzilla looks around nervously.
02:45:13 [sbp]
well, I can't clonk anything, so it's at most pseudo-real
02:45:13 [sbp]
* sbp tries to clonk Morbus' feet against xena's thighs
02:45:21 [Morbus]
?
02:45:22 [jillzilla]
xena has thighs?
02:45:28 [sbp]
* sbp listens
02:45:31 [sbp]
not a peep
02:45:32 [jillzilla]
The word "thighs" always brings Morbus running.
02:45:38 [Morbus]
mMMm.
02:45:38 [sbp]
metal thighs, I would guess
02:45:47 [sbp]
heh: he has it on his keywords list
02:46:09 [sbp]
it's probably got a special "sex chat" tone, too
02:46:26 [jillzilla]
xena made of metal...that would be lovely. I always pictures xena as consisting of Net Essence.
02:46:39 [sbp]
argh, this channel is like some kind of whirlpool/black hole/drain
02:46:48 [sbp]
well, it sucks, anyway
02:47:11 [sbp]
sucks you in, that is
02:47:14 [sbp]
or somesuck, as Aaron might say
02:48:00 [jillzilla]
* jillzilla pines for Aaron.
02:48:03 [jillzilla]
* jillzilla oaks for Morbus
02:48:11 [jillzilla]
* jillzilla elms for sbp.
02:48:11 [Morbus]
heh.
02:48:22 [Morbus]
* Morbus pussy willows for jillzilla.
02:48:23 [jillzilla]
I think those might be the worst puns I've made in a very long time.
02:48:31 [jillzilla]
* jillzilla awards Morbus a point.
02:48:49 [deltab]
Morbus: that sounds very well informed
02:49:09 [jillzilla]
deltab. is. here.
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GabeW. is. not.
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03:27:46 [redmonk]
what up
03:51:54 [redmonk]
hey aaron
03:52:11 [redmonk]
i started hacking on a OG python script...
03:52:13 [redmonk]
;-)
03:52:19 [redmonk]
(OmniGraffle)
03:53:33 [redmonk]
ugh
03:53:58 [redmonk]
what's the python version of a case statement?
03:55:26 [jillzilla]
if ...: elif...: elif...: [else...:]
03:55:44 [redmonk]
ugh.
03:55:52 [redmonk]
very few lanuages do switch/case well
03:55:56 [redmonk]
thx jill
03:56:00 [redmonk]
zilla
03:56:22 [jillzilla]
np. I was horrified at first and then found that in practice the python if/elif/else syntax was unobtrusive enough that I didn't mind it at all.
03:56:26 [jillzilla]
Let's hope it's the same for you.
04:02:15 [redmonk]
yeah doesn't seem to bad
04:10:58 [redmonk]
jillzilla: do you python for google?
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15:02:52 [Morbus]
monk monk.
15:04:55 [redmonk]
hiya
15:06:56 [redmonk]
* redmonk pokes aaronsw in the ribs
15:07:02 [redmonk]
you awake aaron?
15:07:10 [Morbus]
he probably won't be here at all today.
15:07:13 [Morbus]
it's passover.
15:07:16 [redmonk]
ohhhh.... right
15:07:40 [redmonk]
this practive of leaving oneself logged in to irc when gone is...
15:07:43 [redmonk]
disconcerting
15:07:54 [Morbus]
heheh.
15:07:55 [redmonk]
(at least in AIM you have idle and away)
15:08:26 [AaronSw]
no
15:08:42 [Morbus]
the sleeper awakens!
15:08:49 [AaronSw]
no
15:09:00 [Morbus]
oh.
15:09:05 [Morbus]
goddamit, he's ircing in his sleep again
15:09:45 [redmonk]
heh
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15:10:38 [redmonk]
hm. sbp?
15:10:46 [redmonk]
i need a python wizard.
15:10:53 [redmonk]
or at least an advanced apprectice
15:10:58 [redmonk]
er,
15:10:59 [deltab]
hi
15:11:00 [redmonk]
apprentice
15:11:46 [redmonk]
can anyone tell my why i get an IndentationError with this code?
15:12:05 [deltab]
there's an error in your indentation
15:12:07 [redmonk]
if obType == type({}):
15:12:21 [redmonk]
xmlStr+="<dict>"
15:12:52 [redmonk]
the marker is between the xmlStr and the "+"
15:13:55 [deltab]
any more lines to that?
15:13:56 [redmonk]
hm.
15:14:09 [redmonk]
[[[
15:14:30 [redmonk]
def typeToXML(ob):
15:14:30 [redmonk]
15:14:30 [redmonk]
obType = type(ob)
15:14:31 [redmonk]
15:14:31 [redmonk]
xmlStr = ""
15:14:32 [redmonk]
15:14:33 [redmonk]
if obType == type({}):
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xmlStr+="<dict>"
15:14:37 [redmonk]
15:14:39 [redmonk]
for item in ob.keys():
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xmlStr += "<key>" + item + "</key>"
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xmlStr += typeToXML(ob[item])
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xmlStr += "</dict>"
15:14:47 [redmonk]
]]]
15:14:49 [redmonk]
well shit
15:14:51 [redmonk]
stupid copy/paste
15:15:30 [redmonk]
i found it
15:15:37 [redmonk]
turned on invisibles in bbedit
15:15:38 [deltab]
hmm, probably a tab/space inconsistency
15:15:48 [redmonk]
exactly
15:15:52 [redmonk]
oy
15:18:03 [Morbus]
vey
15:18:11 [redmonk]
picky python
15:18:32 [redmonk]
if amphetadesk ain't done, shuddup morb ;-)
15:18:43 [redmonk]
* redmonk cracks whip
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15:21:43 [Morbus]
heh.
15:21:50 [Morbus]
finished the new MyChannels code yesterday.
15:21:58 [Morbus]
working on Add A Channels next.
15:22:10 [Morbus]
once i finsih that, the modularizaiton will be complete.
15:22:19 [Morbus]
they'll be a closed alpha test, and then .93 will be released.
15:24:50 [redmonk]
sweet!
15:25:03 [Morbus]
AaronSw, an old article about beautiful software: http://www.chc-3.com/pub/globe_07_06_99.htm
15:25:12 [Morbus]
you want in on the closed alpha?
15:27:30 [Morbus]
hmmm.
15:27:31 [redmonk]
but of course. ;-)
15:27:40 [Morbus]
the article sounds like a draft 1 of the other one i showed you yesterdya.
15:27:44 [redmonk]
will this have the new backend?
15:27:45 [Morbus]
rm: ok.
15:27:50 [redmonk]
(database?)
15:28:02 [Morbus]
no, redmonk, it won't.
15:28:08 [redmonk]
ok
15:28:10 [Morbus]
this won't have much in the way of new features *at all*.
15:28:16 [redmonk]
that's cool
15:28:19 [Morbus]
its just a restructuring/simplification of the existing codebase.
15:28:24 [Morbus]
which will make it easier for the new features.
15:28:28 [redmonk]
simple is better
15:28:29 [redmonk]
yeah
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16:58:15 [Morbus]
* Morbus coughs.
17:00:22 [Morbus]
what's the trial / sw nag of Watson again?
17:00:26 [Morbus]
stops after 30 days?
17:14:08 [sbp]
* sbp wakes up from a strange but funny dream to a very sunny day
17:14:25 [Morbus]
ooh, tell me the dream!
17:14:50 [sbp]
I went to visit Aaron et al. in America :-)
17:15:21 [sbp]
* sbp notes that his fever (which seems to be gone) probably contributed to the vividness
17:15:43 [Morbus]
ahh.
17:15:48 [Morbus]
well, good that the fever is gone.
17:15:57 [sbp]
indeed
17:16:35 [sbp]
* sbp goes to get some food
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17:31:35 [Morbus]
is there an unless statement in php?
17:31:40 [Morbus]
or do I have to negate an if?
17:32:01 [sbp]
* sbp takes a whole page of statements
17:32:10 [sbp]
I think you have to negate an if statement
17:32:13 [Morbus]
pff.
17:32:19 [sbp]
s/statements/notes/
17:32:20 [Morbus]
where's my beloved perl?!
17:32:30 [Morbus]
if the negation of file_exists is true.
17:32:34 [deltab]
there doesn't seem to be
17:32:34 [sbp]
heh, where indeed
17:32:36 [Morbus]
unless file_exists returns true.
17:32:38 [Morbus]
bastards.
17:34:20 [redmonk]
whya re you in php?
17:34:53 [Morbus]
welp, a) i want to learn it myself, and b) i'm taking over administration of this public radio site.
17:35:39 [redmonk]
ah
17:36:47 [redmonk]
why do so few languages have a decnet case/switch statement?
17:36:56 [redmonk]
er, decent
17:37:05 [Morbus]
perl doesn't have one at all.
17:37:08 [sbp]
because case is terrible
17:37:16 [Morbus]
thats why perl doesn't have one ;)
17:37:16 [sbp]
.google programming "case sucks"
17:37:17 [xena]
programming "case sucks": http://www.epinions.com/511077_SONICblue_RioVolt/display_~reviews
17:37:19 [redmonk]
ok, sbp, why?
17:37:33 [Morbus]
.google case considered harmful
17:37:35 [xena]
case considered harmful: http://www.acm.org/classics/oct95
17:37:55 [sbp]
some people are even opposed to elif
17:38:31 [redmonk]
i don't get it
17:40:19 [sbp]
dunno; I must hav read something about it that was fairly convincing. I'll do some research...
17:40:51 [redmonk]
from that last link:-
17:40:53 [redmonk]
[[[
17:40:54 [redmonk]
Wirth and Hoare together make a remark in the same direction in motivating the case construction: "Like the conditional, it mirrors the dynamic structure of a program more clearly than go to statements and switches, and it eliminates the need for introducing a large number of labels in the program."
17:40:55 [redmonk]
]]]
17:41:15 [redmonk]
that sounds to me like they are making a differentiation between 'case' anc 'switch'
17:41:18 [redmonk]
and
17:41:40 [redmonk]
'go to' i can see as evil
17:41:57 [redmonk]
what is the diffence between 'case' and 'switch'
17:44:55 [redmonk]
perhaps an example of a case statement that I like would help:
17:45:21 [redmonk]
in UserTalk (algol/c-like scripting language from Frontier) you do something like this:
17:45:32 [redmonk]
case expr
17:45:40 [redmonk]
val1
17:45:47 [redmonk]
do such and such
17:45:52 [redmonk]
val2
17:45:57 [redmonk]
do other thing
17:46:01 [redmonk]
OR
17:46:03 [redmonk]
you can do
17:46:07 [redmonk]
[[[
17:46:11 [redmonk]
case true
17:46:20 [redmonk]
expr
17:46:26 [redmonk]
do duch and such
17:46:34 [redmonk]
expr2
17:46:39 [redmonk]
ddo other thing
17:46:44 [redmonk]
else
17:46:49 [redmonk]
do last thing
17:46:51 [redmonk]
]]]
17:47:26 [redmonk]
anyway, it's frightfully easy, esp for things like objToXML(obj)
17:47:27 [redmonk]
;-)
17:48:00 [redmonk]
so, my "case" is made, I'll shut up now.
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17:50:23 [sbp]
Mmmkay
17:50:36 [redmonk]
heh.
17:50:54 [redmonk]
that weird, huh?
17:51:08 [sbp]
why can't you remodel those as if cascades?
17:51:37 [sbp]
if expr == val1: do such and such
17:51:40 [sbp]
else: do other thing
17:51:41 [redmonk]
of course i can, but it seems cleaner (and i think i read once that - at least in usertalk - it's faster)
17:52:03 [redmonk]
if i was talking about 3 cases, then yesm the if/else works
17:52:24 [redmonk]
but when i have 6 or 10 cases, it's nice to have the case statement
17:53:12 [redmonk]
anyway - it's not THAT big a deal, i suppose
17:53:23 [sbp]
perhaps if you gave a real example, comparing to the same code in languages without case... I'll be convinced
17:53:34 [sbp]
but I don't really care anyway :-)
17:54:20 [redmonk]
heh
17:54:31 [sbp]
anyway, The Simpsons will be on soon
17:54:32 [sbp]
Gotta run
17:54:36 [redmonk]
bye
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18:23:41 [Geryon]
Hey guys
18:23:44 [jarv]
hi
18:23:46 [redmonk]
'lo
18:23:55 [Geryon]
What's this #swhack channel all about?
18:23:58 [Mantene_1]
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18:24:07 [jarv]
It's semantic web.. what did you think?
18:24:07 [redmonk]
depends on who you ask ;-)
18:24:20 [Mantene_1]
So what is this channel about Jarv?
18:24:22 [Geryon]
semantic web?
18:24:32 [jarv]
why would you just randomly go into a channel without knowing what it was?
18:24:36 [redmonk]
or if you ask morbus or jill, it's about staplers
18:24:39 [Geryon]
Ok redmonk... What's this channel all about ? :)
18:24:43 [Geryon]
stplers?
18:24:46 [Geryon]
like paper staplers?
18:24:49 [redmonk]
nevermind
18:24:51 [Mantene_1]
lol
18:24:52 [Geryon]
ok
18:24:54 [redmonk]
semantic web hack
18:24:58 [redmonk]
swhack
18:24:58 [Geryon]
ahh
18:25:00 [Geryon]
ok
18:25:02 [Geryon]
gotcha
18:25:21 [jarv]
you obviously need to go into #swnewbie
18:25:33 [jarv]
before you take on the #swhack
18:25:38 [Mantene_1]
hehehe
18:25:43 [redmonk]
swhack!
18:26:44 [Mantene_1]
seed is leaving our channel fo rthe weekend guys, say goodbye
18:27:03 [Mantene_1]
u missed him
18:33:21 [Geryon]
later guys
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18:33:49 [Morbus]
damn.
18:33:52 [Morbus]
i miss the new guys.
18:34:02 [Morbus]
you know, actually, half the people in this room, I have no clue who they are.
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18:42:16 [sbp]
* sbp wonders who the feck this jarv guy/gal is
18:42:50 [davb]
they were all brought here by AaronSw, the pied-piper of IRC
18:43:10 [Morbus]
who the hell does AaronSw think he is?
18:43:17 [Morbus]
bringing all these people here, and then not introducing them.,
18:43:22 [Morbus]
bollocks, and bullox!
18:45:17 [sbp]
* sbp shrugs
18:45:30 [sbp]
18 people? must be the best turn out yet
18:50:58 [sbp]
sbp has changed the topic to: Welcome to Hamelin
18:52:09 [kham]
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18:52:22 [kham]
hello all
18:52:32 [sbp]
Hey
18:52:39 [sbp]
29 and climbing!
18:52:42 [sbp]
er... 19
18:53:46 [sbp]
* sbp plays "Fool In The Rain"
18:54:45 [sbp]
notZakim, agenda?
18:54:45 [notZakim]
I see nothing on the agenda
18:55:11 [sbp]
notZakim, who's here?
18:55:11 [notZakim]
sorry, sbp, I don't know what conference this is
18:55:31 [sbp]
it's swhack!
18:55:46 [sbp]
the world's longest conference
18:56:01 [sbp]
.google Zakim instructions
18:56:02 [xena]
Zakim instructions: http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/2001/sw/zakim/Monitor.pl?sortby=file
18:57:18 [jarv]
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18:57:41 [sbp]
aha, from the public source: http://www.w3.org/2001/11/zakim
18:57:45 [sbp]
member-only, though
18:57:57 [sbp]
er... http://www.w3.org/2001/11/zakim.html
18:58:50 [sbp]
notZakim, this conference is Swhack
18:58:50 [notZakim]
sorry, sbp, I do not see a conference named 'Swhack'
18:58:55 [sbp]
Gprmgprmgprmh
18:59:03 [sbp]
Gotta run
19:02:59 [redmonk]
notZakim, this conference is swhack
19:02:59 [notZakim]
sorry, redmonk, I do not see a conference named 'swhack'
19:03:03 [redmonk]
oh well
19:03:17 [redmonk]
notZakim, this conference is #swhack?
19:03:17 [notZakim]
sorry, redmonk, I do not see a conference named '#swhack?'
19:03:22 [redmonk]
notZakim, this conference is #swhack ?
19:03:22 [notZakim]
sorry, redmonk, I do not see a conference named '#swhack ?'
19:03:26 [redmonk]
notZakim, this conference is #swhack
19:03:26 [notZakim]
sorry, redmonk, I do not see a conference named '#swhack'
19:03:32 [redmonk]
stupid bots
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19:30:45 [redmonk]
argh!
19:31:35 [redmonk]
just found out that Doc Searls and Dan Gillmor were in PHX the last fwe days at PCForum.
19:31:48 [redmonk]
i had no idea it was even INphx
19:31:53 [redmonk]
er, IN phoenix
19:32:12 [Morbus]
jillium.
19:32:19 [jillium]
Morbus.
19:32:25 [redmonk]
i gotta get used to living somewhere where things happen (no net conference ever happpened in SE VA)
19:32:35 [redmonk]
staplers!
19:32:50 [jillium]
net conferences are only in some places, but staplers are universal.
19:33:12 [redmonk]
paper comes and goes, but the stapler is forever
19:33:41 [jillium]
* jillium thinks of the interiors of stars, where hydrogen is turned into staplers.
19:34:26 [redmonk]
hehh
19:34:36 [redmonk]
and steno pads.
19:34:43 [redmonk]
god i love steno pads
19:34:56 [jillium]
plastic accordion files.
19:35:04 [redmonk]
* redmonk drools
19:35:36 [redmonk]
the ulimate steno pad is 3/4" think and has no lines.
19:35:47 [redmonk]
i don't believe it exists
19:35:53 [redmonk]
er, thick
19:39:01 [jillium]
no lines...oooh.
19:39:08 [jillium]
sounds like a drawing pad.
19:39:22 [redmonk]
i'm a designo-geek
19:39:37 [redmonk]
i think in pictures, but like my pads to act like normat legal pads
19:39:49 [redmonk]
i tend to make lists and mix them with boxes-and-arrows
19:40:12 [jillium]
so external lines get in your way.
19:40:12 [redmonk]
hence, no-lines == goood!
19:40:15 [redmonk]
yes
19:42:11 [jillium]
have you checked art stores for such a steno pad? It would likely not be cheap, but you might find it.
19:42:40 [redmonk]
not worth it ;-)
19:42:59 [redmonk]
back in the day of Real Office Supplies (tm)
19:43:13 [jillium]
* jillium hears the nostalgic music swelling.
19:43:18 [redmonk]
my dad had this can of red goo you could put on the edges of a stack of paper
19:43:35 [redmonk]
just like "real" legal pads
19:43:48 [redmonk]
so i would just make up a stack of copier paper
19:43:55 [redmonk]
and "goo-it"
19:43:57 [jillium]
red goo signifying what? I never knew.
19:43:58 [redmonk]
tada!
19:44:16 [jillium]
* jillium goes to get her clean clothes from the dryer.
19:44:20 [jillium]
brb
19:44:25 [redmonk]
it hardened into that same kind of rubber that holds legal pads at the top
19:44:48 [redmonk]
(you would "paint" it on one edge
19:44:49 [redmonk]
)
19:44:53 [jillium]
aha
19:46:23 [redmonk]
cool, huh?
19:46:51 [redmonk]
that was back in the day of 'LetterPress' rub-on type, too. I made the best school projects
19:47:03 [redmonk]
(my dad was an architect)
20:04:49 [sbp]
where do you get red goo from?
20:07:04 [davb]
I think it is available office supply stores.
20:09:38 [sbp]
cool
20:09:56 [sbp]
"One can of red goo, please"
20:10:08 [redmonk]
yeah ;-)
20:10:18 [redmonk]
it looked like an old can of rubber cement
20:10:25 [redmonk]
(which i guess is was)
20:10:29 [redmonk]
er, it
20:10:29 [sbp]
:-)
20:10:30 [redmonk]
hehe
20:10:58 [redmonk]
hey sbp; you're doing java in school, correct?
20:11:08 [sbp]
Uni, yes
20:11:19 [redmonk]
have you looked at jython yet?
20:11:22 [sbp]
yep
20:11:26 [redmonk]
(just doing so myself)
20:11:32 [redmonk]
what do you think?
20:12:05 [sbp]
haven't used it much, personally
20:12:52 [redmonk]
ah
20:15:37 [jillium]
* jillium loops infinitely.
20:16:32 [sbp]
.google Befunge93
20:16:33 [xena]
Befunge93: http://blogspace.com/swhack/chatlogs/2001-09-23.txt
20:16:36 [sbp]
heh
20:16:38 [sbp]
.google Befunge
20:16:39 [xena]
Befunge: http://www.catseye.mb.ca/esoteric/befunge
20:16:50 [redmonk]
heh
20:16:51 [redmonk]
thx
20:17:14 [sbp]
[OLM]
20:18:32 [redmonk]
heh
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20:22:18 [sbp]
WTF?!
20:22:20 [sbp]
I was K-lined!
20:22:45 [sbp]
wow, we all were
20:22:50 [jillium]
I wonder what that meant. Was I?
20:23:34 [sbp]
* sbp pmsgs lilo
20:26:04 [sbp]
I got: -carter.openprojects.net- *** Banned: lilo; clonebot (2002/03/28 20.20)
20:30:05 [sbp]
* sbp reverts to email
20:32:07 [sbp]
.dns vorpal.logicerror.com
20:32:07 [xena]
vorpal.logicerror.com - 63.149.73.20
20:33:01 [sbp]
why was redmonk K-lined?
20:34:48 [sbp]
oh, he was running dp on Vorpal
20:37:05 [sbp]
* sbp mails OPN
20:38:46 [sbp]
* sbp mails Steve, who was wondering what happened :-)
20:44:01 [sbp]
it may have just been a random sweep, rather than a calculated ban
20:44:18 [sbp]
the addition of loggy to the Vorpal clan is probably what clinched it
20:47:20 [sbp]
aha, it's been fixed
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20:49:15 [Morbus]
i wsan't k-lined.
20:49:20 [Morbus]
i don't even know what that means.
20:50:13 [SeanP]
it means we got banned :-)
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20:55:41 [Morbus]
oh. heh.
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21:35:17 [sbp]
* sbp emerges from watching Friend
21:35:19 [sbp]
Friends
21:35:21 [sbp]
and why do I watch Friends?
21:35:23 [sbp]
Chandler: Because it's awesome!
21:35:44 [sbp]
(i.e. It was the Ms. PacMan one)
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21:40:37 [redmonk]
um, ok...
21:40:46 [redmonk]
i more or less can't stand Friends
21:41:15 [redmonk]
i'm sure that, and the affinity for case, is putting me on sbp's 'bad' list ;-)
21:42:50 [sbp]
welcome back :-)
21:43:05 [sbp]
Hmm...
21:43:07 [sbp]
yes
21:43:28 [sbp]
lots of people can't stand Friends, though. Dunno why
21:44:17 [redmonk]
Ross, Chandler, Rachel, Joey, Monica...
21:44:35 [redmonk]
those are my reasons... ;-)
21:44:35 [Morbus]
i love friends!
21:45:07 [redmonk]
* redmonk whips out BFG...
21:45:23 [redmonk]
* FOOM* *FOOM* *FOOM*!!!
21:45:28 [redmonk]
*splutch*
21:45:29 [Morbus]
hey, anyone in here use a Wiki before?
21:45:32 [Morbus]
* Morbus respawns.
21:45:36 [redmonk]
only as a user
21:45:47 [Morbus]
do you know how to change a WikiName?
21:45:47 [sbp]
so you like Phoebe, then?
21:45:51 [sbp]
Wiki: duh
21:46:04 [redmonk]
(phoebe is cool)
21:46:04 [sbp]
you delete one, and make another
21:46:27 [Morbus]
can normal users delete a page from the wiki?
21:46:31 [Morbus]
or only admins?
21:46:47 [sbp]
it depends upon the Wiki
21:46:52 [sbp]
but usually, anyone can
21:47:07 [Morbus]
[[[
21:47:08 [Morbus]
[16:47] <Ry4an> You want to rename one? W/ moinmoin you do that by renaming the file and then deleting the contents of the 'cache' directory
21:47:08 [Morbus]
[16:47] <Morbus> ah. so you have to be an admin?
21:47:08 [Morbus]
[16:47] <Morbus> yeah, its moinmoin
21:47:08 [Morbus]
[16:47] <Ry4an> yeah you'll need to be an admin.
21:47:09 [Morbus]
]]]
21:51:14 [Morbus]
but apparently there's an add on called delete pages.
21:51:19 [Morbus]
and i could delete and re-add that way.
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22:24:59 [Morbus]
ok.
22:25:04 [Morbus]
whoever wrote this needs to take a breath:
22:25:05 [Morbus]
"However, the diversity of free software systems in competition as regards security as well as thousands of details to which to adapt certainly makes it harder for virus developers to write a virus that can adapt to all the varying conditions met in the diverse systems they will have to target, as opposed to the uniform conditions imposed in the monocultures that proprietary software systems are"
22:30:05 [sbp]
heh
22:31:16 [jillzilla]
* jillzilla gasps for air.
22:31:43 [jillzilla]
The writer is correct. However, that very diversity also makes it much much harder to support commercial products that interact with free software.
22:32:07 [Morbus]
oh yes, the writer is certainly correct, as is most of the rest of his article.
22:32:21 [jillzilla]
* jillzilla confirms that she can indeed use her US passport to enter the USA. Some moron at Amtrak told me otherwise.
22:32:23 [Morbus]
he just needs to be a little ... less.. .. .. you know.
22:32:40 [jillzilla]
He needs to remember that punctuation is not a limited resource.
22:32:55 [jillzilla]
And that sentences can be begun as easily as they are stopped.
22:33:06 [sbp]
what. no. way.
22:33:31 [jillzilla]
* jillzilla decides that henceforth she will take three deep breaths between any two words she speaks.
22:33:47 [sbp]
the funniest thing is that s/he doesn't even use a comma
22:34:00 [jillzilla]
* jillzilla mutters about the moron at Amtrak who gave her misinformation and made her waste time confirming what was clearly true.
22:52:58 [Morbus]
Morbus has quit ("http://www.disobey.com/")
22:54:11 [sbp]
actually, they use two commas
22:54:24 [sbp]
dunno why I said none: I *knew* that there was a comma in there...
22:54:36 [jillzilla]
You were possessed.
22:55:17 [sbp]
er... by something that stops you from saying that you've spotted commas even when you have?
22:55:23 [jillzilla]
Indeed.
22:55:27 [sbp]
<humoring>Mmmkay...</humoring>
22:55:28 [jillzilla]
It's not a nice thing.
22:55:52 [jillzilla]
You lost your yous.
22:56:03 [jillzilla]
er, your 'u's
22:56:13 [jillzilla]
Damned thing "fixes" what I type.
22:56:41 [sbp]
"humoring" is an acceptable variant
22:57:08 [jillzilla]
* jillzilla feels accepted. But humored.
22:57:49 [sbp]
you're lucky that I didn't bring CygBot in here
23:17:36 [Morbus]
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23:35:37 [sbp]
.google XQuery implementation
23:35:38 [xena]
XQuery implementation: http://www.x-hive.com/xquery
23:35:58 [redmonk]
hi Morbus
23:36:04 [Morbus]
hey monk monk
23:36:06 [sbp]
wow
23:47:59 [Morbus]
wow?
23:48:15 [jillzilla]
wow!
23:48:50 [Morbus]
olestra!
23:49:22 [Morbus]
anyone have a clue?
23:50:57 [jillzilla]
nope, no clue here.
23:51:03 [jillzilla]
jillzilla is now known as duuuuuh
23:51:15 [Morbus]
jeez.
23:51:21 [Morbus]
WOW! chips, from Lays, have olestra in them to make them fat free, or low fat or whatever.
23:51:29 [Morbus]
olestra is known to give explosive diarhhea to people
23:52:12 [duuuuuh]
duuuuuh is now known as duhzilla
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23:54:25 [Morbus]
well.
23:54:25 [Morbus]
jeez.
23:54:37 [sbp]
what did you just do to her?
23:55:05 [Morbus]
i guess she has issues with diahrrea.
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23:55:19 [Morbus]
or else is the inventor of olestra
23:55:19 [Morbus]
wtf?
23:55:31 [Morbus]
maybe they're having an olestra date
23:55:56 [Morbus]
[6:55] <Morbus> i guess she has issues with diahrrea.
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23:57:01 [duhzilla]
Ahhhh, I couldn't stay away from Morbus!
23:57:04 [duhzilla]
Or from Olestra!
23:57:13 [Morbus]
all hail the creator of olestra!
23:57:19 [Morbus]
* Morbus farts in your general direction.
23:57:43 [duhzilla]
I was riding my bike last night and wondering if a well-timed fart could function like a turbo charger.
23:58:13 [duhzilla]
<pedalpedalpedal><kaBLOOOM!><pedalpedalpedalpedalpedal>
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23:58:31 [Morbus]
heh.
23:58:37 [Morbus]
that's a good idea.
23:58:43 [Morbus]
if bike seats came with a gas converter.
23:58:53 [sbp]
* sbp patents it
23:58:58 [Morbus]
you could fart into a tube which would be turned into energy
23:59:11 [Morbus]
of course, the converter would probably weigh the bike down.
23:59:11 [Morbus]
thus negating the energy benefit
23:59:17 [duhzilla]
* duhzilla bikes, her wind making her go like the wind.
23:59:39 [Morbus]
it could be called the FlatuBike.
23:59:57 [Morbus]
slogan: Break Wind and Make Wind!