IRC log of swhack on 2002-01-16

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00:03:04 [BenSw]

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00:03:09 [sbp]

Hi Ben

00:03:50 [deltab]

BenSw! I thought you'd expired

00:04:51 [BenSw]

hi

00:20:32 [BenSw]

why would I expire?

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00:31:57 [tav]

* tav notes BenSw is new to deltab's sense of humour

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01:43:59 [sbp]

Hi there finejung

01:45:02 [finejung]

hello

01:45:14 [finejung]

how's life?

01:45:22 [tav`]

hi

01:45:27 [tav`]

good thanks

01:45:45 [finejung]

:)

01:46:48 [sbp]

So, what can we do you for?

01:47:09 [sbp]

BTW, this channel is instantly logged to the Web in several formats, all available at http://blogspace.com/swhack/chatlogs/

01:47:29 [sbp]

to do an off-log comment, prefix your entry with "# "

01:47:32 [finejung]

wonderful

01:47:44 [finejung]

ok

01:48:08 [sbp]

xena is an all-purpose bot with several functions, such as google and time

01:48:12 [sbp]

.google finejung

01:48:32 [xena]

finejung: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-html-editor/2000OctDec/0192.html

01:48:39 [finejung]

I see

01:48:57 [finejung]

what exactly is the channel about?

01:49:26 [sbp]

Basically anything

01:49:50 [sbp]

We also maintain the #swhack Weblog, but on the channel we just chat about whatever. Skip through the archives for more details

01:50:23 [sbp]

Stuff like P2P, cryotography, decentralization, the Semantic Web, XHTML, the weather, The Simpsons, humour, Python...

01:50:53 [finejung]

the sw is semantic web then?

01:50:56 [sbp]

yep

01:51:12 [finejung]

I'm glad my assumptions are not always awry

01:51:14 [tav`]

sbp: you forget to mention sex and analmilking

01:51:31 [CygBot]

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01:51:32 [tav`]

sbp here has this worrying obsession...

01:51:48 [sbp]

ah, yeah. And cracking - we're l33t d00dz, according to Aaron

01:51:49 [finejung]

that's OK, it was also inferred

01:52:13 [sbp]

Heh, heh

01:52:15 [finejung]

well of course

01:52:41 [finejung]

what channel is not full of 1337 d00dz?

01:52:55 [sbp]

that's a very good point

01:53:10 [tav`]

i'm not a w3 guy, so i have to ask, who are you finejung?

01:53:52 [finejung]

nobody

01:54:03 [sbp]

that's strange: tav's nobody too

01:54:18 [finejung]

bizarre, we share an identity

01:54:23 [tav`]

woah!

01:54:23 [sbp]

I, on the other hand, am Sean B. Palmer Esq. None of that anonymous bullshit malarkey for me

01:54:28 [tav`]

maybe we are the same person!

01:55:00 [sbp]

Mwahahaha!

01:55:08 [finejung]

That's nice :)

01:56:47 [finejung]

I'm Tom Henry Croft, I doubt many people care though.

01:57:08 [finejung]

or am I Thomas? such things confuse me

01:57:34 [sbp]

What shall we call you? How about Fred. I don't know many Freds

01:57:43 [finejung]

I used to know a fred

01:58:21 [finejung]

I have never known a male Kim

01:58:44 [sbp]

Hmm... neither have I

01:58:56 [finejung]

nor a male Rowan

01:59:16 [finejung]

it all lerads to genderisation of unisex names unless you balance the scales

01:59:24 [finejung]

lerads? leads.

01:59:25 [sbp]

ah, so you're female?

01:59:30 [finejung]

no male

01:59:34 [finejung]

I think

01:59:43 [sbp]

there's a simple way to check

02:00:10 [finejung]

when no-one's around to see it, does the tree exist?

02:00:17 [sbp]

if you like beer, scratching yourself, watching T.V., farting/burping, and go "hubba hubba" at the sight of any female, then you're male

02:00:41 [sbp]

tree: yeah, sure. God's always around to see it

02:01:21 [finejung]

Accdording to the irish bishop

02:01:32 [finejung]

Berkeley? something like that.

02:01:39 [sbp]

dunno

02:01:41 [finejung]

I have his book somewhere

02:01:49 [sbp]

.google irish bishop Berkeley

02:01:55 [finejung]

yes Berkeley

02:02:11 [finejung]

"The principles of Human Knowledge"

02:02:16 [xena]

irish bishop Berkeley: http://www.knuten.liu.se/~bjoch509/philosophers/ber.html

02:02:26 [sbp]

Mmmkay

02:02:41 [finejung]

the google thing's very cute :)

02:02:46 [sbp]

sure is

02:02:57 [sbp]

.commands

02:03:11 [xena]

valid commands:

02:03:21 [xena]

- +mask, -mask, access, acronym, act, babel, beats, billennium, c2f, change

02:03:21 [xena]

- commands, ctcp, date, dict, die, dns, dtrt, e, email, excuse

02:03:21 [xena]

- f2c, flight, foldoc, fortune, google, help, imdb, intelliquote, isotime, jargon

02:03:21 [xena]

- join, login, masks, modules, msg, news, news on, news source, nick, nickometer

02:03:21 [xena]

- part, pig latin, plexname, poker, quit, quote, raw, register, rfc, rot13

02:03:22 [xena]

- search, seen, server, servers, spell, status, symbol for, time, translate, unixtime

02:03:24 [xena]

- users, weather, webster, when did, whois, wn, zipcode, zope commands

02:03:45 [finejung]

ooh

02:03:55 [sbp]

take your pick

02:03:56 [sbp]

.time

02:04:01 [sbp]

.wn damn

02:04:06 [finejung]

.fortune

02:04:13 [sbp]

.spell greot

02:04:17 [finejung]

I'll never get tired of that :)

02:04:18 [xena]

2002/01/16 02:05:46.1144 Universal

02:04:30 [xena]

Create.

02:04:35 [sbp]

Wow, is she being slow today, or is it just me?

02:04:41 [xena]

potential spellings for greot are: grate, grat, Great, griot, garret, grit, Groote, greet, great, grata

02:04:42 [xena]

damn defined as:

02:04:43 [xena]

- adj 1: used as expletives; "oh, damn (or goddamn)!" [syn: {goddamn}]

02:04:44 [xena]

- 2: expletives used informally as intensifiers; "he's a blasted idiot"; "it's a blamed shame"; "a blame cold winter"; "not a blessed dime"; "I'll be damned (or blessed or darned or goddamned) if I'll do any such thing"; "he's a damn (or goddam or goddamned) fool"; "a deuced idiot"; "tired or his everlasting whimpering"; "an infernal nuisance" [syn: {blasted}, {blame}, {blamed}, {blessed},

02:04:45 [xena]

{damned}, {darned}, {deuced}, {everlasting}, {goddam}, {goddamn}, {goddamned}, {infernal}] n : something of little value; "it is not worth a damn"; "not worth shucks" [syn: {darn}, {hoot}, {shit}, {shucks}, {tinker's damn}, {tinker's dam}] adv : (intensifier) "you are bloody right"; "Why are you so all-fired aggressive?" [syn: {bloody}, {all-fired}] v : wish harm upon; put a curse on; "The bad witch

02:04:47 [xena]

.. a very large amount of text.

02:05:00 [tansaku]

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02:05:10 [finejung]

incredible

02:05:34 [tav`]

.fortune

02:05:35 [xena]

Once when I was in Hawaii, on the island of Kauai, I met a mysterious old stranger. He said he was about to die and wanted to tell someone about the treasure. I said "Okay, as long as it's not a long story. Some of us have a plane to catch, you know." He started telling his story, about the treasure and his life and all, and I thought "This story isn't too long". But then, he kept going, and I

02:05:36 [xena]

started thinking, "Uh-oh, this story is getting long." But then the story was over, and I said to myself: "You know, that story wasn't too long after all". I forgot what the story was about, but there was a good movie on the plane. It was a little long though.

02:06:46 [finejung]

.foldoc semantic web

02:06:47 [xena]

error: unable to define semantic web

02:06:54 [finejung]

.foldoc semantic

02:07:08 [finejung]

this could get rather floody

02:09:15 [tav]

.google hmz

02:09:17 [xena]

hmz: http://www.rzs-hm.si

02:09:21 [tav]

we have to fix that

02:09:34 [tav]

sbp: we need to setup a hmz.asktav.com

02:11:27 [sbp]

heh!

02:12:05 [CygBot]

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02:12:15 [tav`]

what's cygbot?

02:12:18 [tav`]

funny

02:12:26 [tav`]

i seem to use whatever 'tav`' is

02:12:33 [sbp]

haven't you seen my demonstration of CygBot yet?

02:12:38 [tav`]

nope

02:12:44 [sbp]

wow

02:12:59 [CygBot]

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02:13:03 [sbp]

$ pwd

02:13:04 [CygBot]

> /home

02:13:04 [CygBot]

> [end]

02:13:13 [tav`]

$ ls

02:13:13 [sbp]

$ ls util

02:13:17 [CygBot]

Command "ls" has been disabled

02:13:18 [CygBot]

> archive.py

02:13:19 [CygBot]

> browser.py

02:13:19 [finejung]

* finejung gets a fluffy corn-based food

02:13:20 [CygBot]

> browser20020115-054322.py

02:13:21 [CygBot]

> httpuris.py

02:13:22 [CygBot]

> simpsons.py

02:13:23 [CygBot]

> timenow.py

02:13:24 [CygBot]

> timenow.pyc

02:13:25 [CygBot]

> [end]

02:13:27 [tav`]

$ cd util

02:13:32 [tav`]

$ pwd

02:13:32 [CygBot]

> [end]

02:13:37 [CygBot]

> /home

02:13:37 [CygBot]

> [end]

02:13:56 [sbp]

it uses popen, so it's like a new shell each time

02:14:00 [sbp]

cd doesn't work

02:14:06 [tav`]

ah

02:14:09 [sbp]

$ u simpsons

02:14:22 [tav`]

$ find porn

02:14:27 [CygBot]

> The Simpsons are not on today on BBC2

02:14:27 [CygBot]

> The Simpsons are on today on Sky One at 19:00 19:30 20:00 20:30

02:14:27 [CygBot]

> [end]

02:14:29 [CygBot]

Command "find porn" has been disabled

02:14:37 [sbp]

$ cat /bin/u

02:14:39 [CygBot]

> #!/usr/bin/sh

02:14:39 [CygBot]

> ONE=$1; shift 1; /home/util/${ONE}.* $*

02:15:11 [tav`]

what does shift do?

02:15:27 [sbp]

shifts the commands: chops however many off of the front

02:15:46 [finejung]

truncates backwards?

02:15:46 [tav`]

come again?

02:15:47 [sbp]

[Thanks to the tip from d*ltab]

02:16:09 [sbp]

$* = a b c; shift 1; $* = b c

02:16:13 [sbp]

$* = a b c; shift 2; $* = c

02:16:15 [sbp]

etc.

02:16:16 [tav`]

ah

02:16:29 [sbp]

I guess, anyway

02:16:32 [finejung]

$ whoami

02:16:44 [CygBot]

> Palmer

02:16:44 [CygBot]

> [end]

02:16:54 [finejung]

oh what fun

02:17:03 [sbp]

yep :-)

02:17:12 [sbp]

.belikesbp

02:17:12 [CygBot]

I wonder when Morbus will be back?

02:17:15 [sbp]

.belikesbp

02:17:16 [CygBot]

Uh huh?

02:17:17 [sbp]

.belikesbp

02:17:18 [CygBot]

wow, the email on www-html these days is often terrible

02:17:26 [sbp]

heh. I just added that command

02:17:32 [finejung]

:)

02:17:36 [sbp]

heh. I just added that command

02:17:37 [sbp]

ugh

02:17:38 [tav`]

.belikesbp

02:17:39 [CygBot]

Ah, I love to rant

02:17:41 [sbp]

.belikesbp

02:17:41 [tav`]

.belikesbp

02:17:42 [CygBot]

Man, I'm hungry

02:17:42 [CygBot]

I wonder when Morbus will be back?

02:17:46 [tav`]

.belikesbp

02:17:47 [finejung]

.belikesbp

02:17:47 [CygBot]

Argh, Java is so annoying

02:17:47 [CygBot]

Argh, Java is so annoying

02:17:49 [tav`]

heh

02:17:51 [tav`]

heh

02:17:53 [tav`]

.belikesbp

02:17:54 [CygBot]

Homer: Marge, it takes two to lie: one to lie, and one to listen

02:17:58 [sbp]

ugh, repetition already. import random isn't all that good :-)

02:17:59 [tav`]

lol

02:18:04 [sbp]

.belikesbp

02:18:05 [CygBot]

Blargh

02:18:08 [finejung]

.belikesbp

02:18:08 [CygBot]

Hey, Aaron, are you there?

02:18:15 [tav`]

.belikesbp

02:18:15 [sbp]

heh, heh. That's a good one

02:18:16 [CygBot]

Uh huh?

02:18:19 [tav`]

.belikesbp

02:18:19 [CygBot]

Hey, Aaron, are you there?

02:18:21 [tav`]

.belikesbp

02:18:22 [CygBot]

Man, I'm hungry

02:18:25 [tav`]

.belikesbp

02:18:26 [CygBot]

w3c-wai-er-ig has been a bit quiet recently

02:18:29 [tav`]

.belikesbp

02:18:30 [CygBot]

I wonder when Morbus will be back?

02:18:31 [tav`]

.belikesbp

02:18:32 [CygBot]

Argh, Java is so annoying

02:18:33 [tav`]

.belikesbp

02:18:33 [CygBot]

So, how's the Plex coming along?

02:18:34 [finejung]

.belikesbp

02:18:35 [CygBot]

Ugh, damn ' key!

02:18:37 [tav`]

.belikesbp

02:18:37 [CygBot]

wow, the email on www-html these days is often terrible

02:18:39 [tav`]

.belikesbp

02:18:40 [CygBot]

Ah, damnit

02:18:41 [tav`]

.belikesbp

02:18:42 [CygBot]

Hmm... I wonder what other uses of the Semantic Web there are?

02:18:44 [tav`]

.belikesbp

02:18:45 [CygBot]

I wonder when Morbus will be back?

02:18:46 [tav`]

.belikesbp

02:18:46 [finejung]

you repeat yourself alot

02:18:47 [CygBot]

Homer: Woohoo!

02:18:48 [finejung]

.belikesbp

02:18:49 [CygBot]

Man, I'm hungry

02:18:50 [tav`]

.belikesbp

02:18:50 [CygBot]

Homer: Marge, it takes two to lie: one to lie, and one to listen

02:18:51 [tav`]

.belikesbp

02:18:52 [CygBot]

Man, I'm hungry

02:18:53 [tav`]

.belikesbp

02:18:54 [CygBot]

Mwahahahaha!

02:18:55 [tav`]

.belikesbp

02:18:56 [CygBot]

Ugh, damn ' key!

02:18:57 [tav`]

.belikesbp

02:18:58 [CygBot]

Ugh, damn ' key!

02:18:58 [sbp]

I repeat myself a lot?

02:18:59 [tav`]

.belikesbp

02:19:00 [CygBot]

So, how's the Plex coming along?

02:19:00 [sbp]

I repeat myself a lot?

02:19:01 [tav`]

.belikesbp

02:19:02 [CygBot]

I wonder when Morbus will be back?

02:19:03 [tav`]

.belikesbp

02:19:04 [CygBot]

Ah, I love to rant

02:19:05 [tav`]

.belikesbp

02:19:06 [CygBot]

Heh, heh, heh

02:19:07 [tav`]

heh

02:19:12 [tav`]

i guess we've seen all

02:19:15 [tav`]

or pretty much

02:19:19 [tav`]

the homer quote rocks

02:19:28 [finejung]

indeed

02:19:29 [sbp]

I'll paste them all in...

02:19:32 [sbp]

sbpSayings = ['Heh, heh, heh',

02:19:32 [sbp]

'Homer: Woohoo!',

02:19:32 [sbp]

'Homer: Marge, it takes two to lie: one to lie, and one to listen',

02:19:32 [sbp]

'Argh, Java is so annoying',

02:19:32 [sbp]

'Mwahahahaha!',

02:19:40 [sbp]

'Uh huh?',

02:19:40 [sbp]

'Hmm... I wonder what other uses of the Semantic Web there are?',

02:19:40 [sbp]

'Hey, Aaron, are you there?',

02:19:40 [sbp]

'Blargh',

02:19:40 [sbp]

'Ooh, that\'s quite phenomic',

02:19:48 [sbp]

'Man, I\'m hungry',

02:19:48 [sbp]

'Ugh, damn \' key!',

02:19:48 [sbp]

'Mmmkay',

02:19:48 [sbp]

'I wonder when Morbus will be back?',

02:19:50 [sbp]

'Wow, Python is so cool (the show and the language)',

02:19:53 [sbp]

'So, how\'s the Plex coming along?',

02:19:54 [sbp]

'w3c-wai-er-ig has been a bit quiet recently',

02:19:56 [sbp]

'wow, the email on www-html these days is often terrible',

02:20:00 [sbp]

'Marvel at the funkiness!',

02:20:02 [sbp]

'Ah, I love to rant',

02:20:05 [sbp]

'Ah, damnit',

02:20:07 [sbp]

'Ooh, kick-ass']

02:20:19 [tav`]

is heh heh heh yours?

02:20:34 [sbp]

what do you mean "mine"?

02:20:42 [sbp]

sbpSayings[random.randrange(0, len(sbpSayings)-1)]

02:20:43 [finejung]

yeah, he invented that string

02:20:52 [sbp]

I say it often enough

02:21:00 [sbp]

so it goes well in "belikesbp"

02:21:19 [finejung]

do you quote homer simpson often?

02:21:25 [sbp]

very often

02:21:33 [tav`]

sbp is simpson mad!

02:21:41 [sbp]

Homer: Damn straight

02:21:48 [finejung]

$ u big train

02:21:57 [CygBot]

> /home/util/big.*: not found

02:21:58 [CygBot]

> [end]

02:22:05 [sbp]

blargh @ big train

02:22:20 [finejung]

pfft!

02:22:38 [finejung]

I'll admit it's not perfect

02:22:54 [sbp]

well, you know what I say to that?

02:22:55 [sbp]

.belikesbp

02:22:56 [CygBot]

Ugh, damn ' key!

02:23:07 [sbp]

there. That's what I say. Damn ' key

02:23:15 [finejung]

that's good, I thoght you'd say

02:23:19 [finejung]

.belikesbp

02:23:19 [CygBot]

Mmmkay

02:23:26 [sbp]

Heh, heh, heh

02:23:38 [finejung]

Ah, I love to rant

02:23:42 [sbp]

lol

02:23:46 [finejung]

or maybe that's you..

02:23:54 [finejung]

I have an identity crisis

02:23:58 [sbp]

so, you've been tav, me...

02:24:05 [sbp]

yeah, I noticed

02:24:32 [xena]

i'm finejung

02:24:39 [finejung]

*blink*

02:24:46 [sbp]

lol!

02:24:50 [finejung]

oh xena was that woman on C5

02:25:09 [finejung]

the warrior princess, thought I'd seen the name

02:25:21 [tav]

heh

02:25:25 [tav]

this is crazy

02:25:30 [tav]

3 brits on at 2:30 am

02:25:47 [finejung]

.time

02:25:48 [xena]

2002/01/16 02:27:26.0276 Universal

02:25:50 [tav]

and, the americans in the channel are asleep

02:25:50 [finejung]

be more precise

02:26:10 [finejung]

I have something against america

02:26:17 [finejung]

it's called McDonalds

02:26:25 [finejung]

*shudder*

02:27:14 [blargh]

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02:27:31 [blargh]

Just testing out irc through bash

02:27:52 [blargh]

it's adequate, I guess

02:27:55 [finejung]

irc through bash..?

02:27:57 [sbp]

sure is

02:28:04 [blargh]

yeah. $ irc

02:28:06 [finejung]

like ircII or something?

02:28:09 [finejung]

Oh

02:28:12 [blargh]

dunno

02:28:18 [finejung]

OK

02:28:25 [sbp]

$ irc -v

02:28:28 [CygBot]

> ircII version 20010101

02:28:29 [CygBot]

>

02:28:44 [finejung]

aha

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02:28:59 [finejung]

is that a backwards date?

02:29:06 [sbp]

Um...

02:29:15 [finejung]

I mean a date that doesn't confuse americans, or helps the chinese or something

02:29:16 [sbp]

Did they write browsers in 1010?

02:29:18 [finejung]

ISO

02:29:21 [sbp]

yeah

02:29:25 [sbp]

YYYYMMDD

02:29:28 [finejung]

:)

02:29:30 [sbp]

it's a normal date

02:29:30 [finejung]

yes

02:29:41 [finejung]

yes I try to write them like that

02:29:42 [sbp]

.google use ISO date format

02:29:44 [xena]

use ISO date format: http://www.saqqara.demon.co.uk/datefmt.htm

02:29:51 [finejung]

it's OK I read it

02:29:58 [sbp]

Uh huh

02:30:09 [finejung]

I usually write ddmmyy if I'm using a pen

02:30:24 [finejung]

habit?

02:30:26 [sbp]

yeah, me too (for many forms, which seem to expect it)

02:30:30 [finejung]

yes

02:30:50 [finejung]

avoid confusing the cattle

02:30:59 [finejung]

oh what an awful thing to say it must be getting late

02:31:10 [finejung]

*yawn*

02:31:26 [finejung]

is our society composed of cows?

02:31:30 [finejung]

I think not.

02:32:24 [sbp]

Pff, who gives a cowpat?

02:32:28 [finejung]

*breathe*

02:34:39 [finejung]

*hmm*

02:35:04 [sbp]

* sbp wonders about bookmarks stored in RDF

02:35:28 [sbp]

I don't really use Bookmarks all that often, because once you get more than about 100 of them, they become unusable

02:35:49 [finejung]

I'm still looking for a way into RDF

02:35:51 [sbp]

But Bookmarking is really the lowest form of hypertext editing

02:36:01 [finejung]

I tried Dublin Core and DAML+OIL

02:36:02 [sbp]

into: semanticWeb-long, swintro

02:36:12 [sbp]

http://logicerror.com/semanticWeb-long

02:36:18 [sbp]

http://infomesh.net/2001/swintro/

02:36:26 [finejung]

hmm

02:36:34 [finejung]

I've heard of logicerror.com before

02:36:47 [sbp]

It's Aaron's domain

02:37:02 [finejung]

Ahh

02:37:07 [finejung]

yes OK

02:37:27 [sbp]

$ u browser http://logicerror.com/semanticWeb-long

02:37:29 [finejung]

I've seen that infomesh article before toto

02:37:32 [finejung]

*too

02:37:40 [sbp]

neat

02:37:50 [sbp]

I wrote the infomesh.net article...

02:38:00 [CygBot]

> Got it: text/html

02:38:01 [CygBot]

> The Semantic Web In Breadth

02:38:01 [finejung]

On Tim Finin's AgentNews thing

02:38:02 [CygBot]

> @ The Semantic Web In Breadth

02:38:03 [CygBot]

>

02:38:04 [CygBot]

> by <<AaronSw> Aaron Swartz> (with <<#acks> much assistance>)

02:38:04 [finejung]

I think

02:38:05 [CygBot]

>

02:38:06 [CygBot]

> I keep trying to explain the <<semanticWeb> Semantic Web> to non-technical

02:38:07 [CygBot]

> people. Unfortunately, decent non-technical explanations of what the Semantic

02:38:08 [CygBot]

> Web is and how it works seem non-existent. This is an attempt to break the

02:38:09 [CygBot]

> Semantic Web down into its component parts and to provide a quick summary of

02:38:10 [CygBot]

> each part. Be aware that this explanation is both oversimplified and not as

02:38:12 [CygBot]

> simple as I'd like it to be. Please <<mailto:me@aaronsw.com> let me know>

02:38:14 [CygBot]

> where the wording is unclear or incorrect so that I can continue to improve

02:38:16 [CygBot]

> this page.

02:38:18 [CygBot]

>

02:38:20 [CygBot]

> @ Identifiers: Uniform Resource Identifier (URI)

02:38:22 [CygBot]

>

02:38:24 [CygBot]

> If I want to discuss something, I must first identify it. How else will you

02:38:26 [CygBot]

> [...]

02:38:29 [sbp]

wow, it spews a lot of text out. I should trim it down

02:38:31 [finejung]

:)

02:38:34 [finejung]

yes

02:38:37 [sbp]

.google Tim Finin's AgentNews swintro

02:38:38 [xena]

no results found.

02:38:42 [finejung]

hmm

02:38:43 [sbp]

.google Tim Finin's AgentNews Semantic Web

02:38:45 [xena]

Tim Finin's AgentNews Semantic Web: http://agents.umbc.edu

02:38:58 [finejung]

he generates a newsletter from his page

02:39:18 [sbp]

$ lynx http://agents.umbc.edu -dump | grep -i semantic

02:39:19 [finejung]

or something... I read it when I'm feeling that way inclined

02:39:27 [CygBot]

> 66 [74]E-Services and the Semantic Web workshop (ESSW2002) (1/11)

02:39:28 [CygBot]

> 97 [82]Semantic Web Workshop at WWW2002 (1/6) [83]Who points to it?

02:39:28 [CygBot]

> 241 [130]ISWC2002 -- Semantic Web Conference (12/9) [131]Who points to

02:39:30 [CygBot]

> 574[188] Semantic Web (Sheth, UGA) (11/5) [189]Who points to it?

02:39:31 [CygBot]

> 523[202] The semantic web: How RDF will change learning technology

02:39:32 [CygBot]

> [234]Semantic Web Conference

02:39:33 [CygBot]

> [240]Semantic Web News

02:39:34 [CygBot]

> 82. http://agents.umbc.edu/cgi-bin/raw?url=http://semanticweb2002.aifb.uni-karlsruhe.de/

02:39:34 [CygBot]

> 83. http://www.hotbot.com/?clickSrc=search&MT=http://semanticweb2002.aifb.uni-karlsruhe.de/&SM=url&DC=50

02:39:36 [CygBot]

> 130. http://agents.umbc.edu/cgi-bin/raw?url=http://iswc.semanticweb.org/

02:39:37 [CygBot]

> 131. http://www.hotbot.com/?clickSrc=search&MT=http://iswc.semanticweb.org/&SM=url&DC=50

02:39:39 [CygBot]

> 234. http://www.multiagent.com/cgi-bin/r?url=http://iswc.semanticweb.org/

02:39:41 [CygBot]

> 240. http://www.moreover.com/cgi-local/page?o=profportal&h=Search+results+for...++%22semantic+web%22+OR+DAML+OR+%22RDF+schema%22+OR+%22topic+maps%22&query=+%22semantic+web%22+OR+DAML+OR+%22RDF+schema%22+OR+%22topic+maps%22

02:39:44 [CygBot]

> [end]

02:39:49 [sbp]

cool

02:39:53 [finejung]

:)

02:40:08 [sbp]

Quite a lot of conference stuff

02:41:33 [finejung]

I will read your articles sometime

02:41:41 [finejung]

soon

02:41:42 [finejung]

:)

02:42:42 [sbp]

Heh, heh

02:49:18 [finejung]

it is not yet 3am

02:49:27 [finejung]

time is a slow thing

02:51:37 [sbp]

e

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03:01:16 [finejung]

would having a BIOS chip on one's keyring be chic or a bit too 80s cyberpunk?

03:02:47 [sbp]

80s cyberpunk, almost certainly :-)

03:03:11 [sbp]

Unless you engraved "the 80's suck" on it, in which case it would be acceptable

03:03:17 [finejung]

Yes, but too the point of unacceptability?

03:03:21 [finejung]

Ahh

03:03:21 [finejung]

:)

03:03:26 [sbp]

:-)

03:03:30 [finejung]

but I like The Smiths

03:03:45 [finejung]

they were 80s I believe

03:04:28 [finejung]

*sigh* decisions decisions

03:07:12 [AaronSw]

* AaronSw succumbs

03:07:21 [finejung]

hello

03:07:31 [AaronSw]

hi there

03:07:46 [AaronSw]

hmm: python.dialup.pol.co.uk

03:08:38 [finejung]

"If I want to discuss something, I must first identify it" - AaronSw

03:09:02 [AaronSw]

who is this finejung, digging up imprecise statements from my past

03:09:36 [AaronSw]

;_)

03:09:47 [finejung]

I named myself Tom Croft earlier, I think. People like names here.

03:09:55 [sbp]

Fred

03:10:00 [finejung]

Kim?

03:10:10 [finejung]

Oh well Fred's OK

03:10:12 [AaronSw]

i like uris, personally

03:10:33 [finejung]

thankyou :) *flutters his is*

03:10:45 [finejung]

that was *um* eyes

03:10:50 [finejung]

I'm tired, ignore

03:11:25 [finejung]

I suppose I've been trying to find out what's Off Topic.

03:11:25 [AaronSw]

oh, right. i was here to blog

03:11:36 [AaronSw]

BLURB:Web Graffiti?

03:11:44 [chumpster]

A: Web Graffiti? from AaronSw

03:12:04 [sbp]

asking what is off-topic is off-topic. Please refrain from doing it

03:12:05 [AaronSw]

A::I went to [download QuickTime|http://www.apple.com/quicktime/download/] and I found some strange sidebars.

03:12:07 [chumpster]

commented item A

03:12:56 [AaronSw]

A::[Mac's Rule!|http://www.apple.com/quicktime/download/images/mac1.jpg], [Smiley Face|http://www.apple.com/quicktime/download/images/mac2.jpg] and [Macs are cool|http://www.apple.com/quicktime/download/images/mac3.jpg].

03:12:58 [chumpster]

commented item A

03:13:27 [sbp]

Mac's what rule?

03:13:37 [sbp]

s/what/whats/

03:13:39 [finejung]

hehe

03:13:57 [AaronSw]

i know, it's graffiti -- they don't no grammar

03:14:45 [finejung]

Maybe Mac owns a straight thing.

03:15:12 [AaronSw]

<sbp> [18:15] argh, when doing comparisons of objects using ==, it tests by object, not by string

03:15:12 [AaronSw]

do: repr(a) == repr(b)

03:15:22 [AaronSw]

most (all?) __foo__ have a foo built-in

03:15:29 [sbp]

thanks

03:15:32 [AaronSw]

well except for __add__ and stuff which have +

03:16:24 [AaronSw]

<sbp> [01:51] We also maintain the #swhack Weblog, but on the channel we just chat about whatever. Skip through the archives for more details

03:16:24 [AaronSw]

it's the Swhack Weblog!

03:16:39 [sbp]

Mmmkay

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03:16:56 [AaronSw]

hi thc

03:16:59 [AaronSw]

what can we do you for?

03:17:09 [AaronSw]

being outlawed in the US?

03:17:21 [thc]

Of course

03:17:28 [sbp]

thc appears to be Mr. Fred

03:17:34 [thc]

Indeed

03:17:37 [AaronSw]

Mr. fred?

03:17:46 [sbp]

no, Mr. Fred

03:17:47 [thc]

I was imitating my hero sbp

03:17:56 [AaronSw]

Who is Mr. Fred?

03:18:08 [thc]

Just Fred is fine

03:18:24 [AaronSw]

fred ?x finejung ?

03:18:48 [thc]

‘?x’?

03:19:11 [AaronSw]

translation: what is the relationship between Mr. Fred and finejung

03:19:34 [thc]

do I have to express it in RDF?

03:19:44 [AaronSw]

nah

03:20:03 [thc]

Oh :) Fred appears to be an alias of finejung

03:20:24 [thc]

Or maybe Mr. Fred

03:20:33 [AaronSw]

aha

03:20:37 [thc]

I don't make the rules up, I just live by them

03:20:57 [AaronSw]

your writing style is eerily rerminiscent of sbp's

03:21:18 [AaronSw]

my real reason for coming is that i hit a snag in my PyChord work... but it is running now.

03:21:44 [sbp]

His writing style's nothing like mine. His is competent

03:22:05 [thc]

Is sbp a haluciogenic chemical?

03:22:10 [thc]

eurgh

03:22:32 [thc]

remind me of that .spellchecker

03:22:43 [thc]

I think I merely missed an n

03:24:12 [thc]

I think I've obliterated fears of competance

03:25:28 [sbp]

correct

03:25:33 [sbp]

you inept so-and-so

03:25:54 [thc]

:)

03:26:27 [thc]

anyone know a better way into a hard drive than a hacksaw?

03:26:46 [thc]

I want to look at the twirly bits

03:27:13 [sbp]

lol!

03:27:34 [sbp]

Oh man, this is *so* funny

03:27:35 [sbp]

http://monkeyfist.com/DailyChurn/

03:27:44 [sbp]

"RSS 1.0, it's the damn details."

03:28:05 [sbp]

Bijan on RSS not allowing repeating elements: "FOR THE LOVE OF GOD WHAT WERE THEY THINKING!!!"

03:28:06 [AaronSw]

.belikesbp

03:28:30 [AaronSw]

for the record, that was kenm's idea. i tried to talk him out of it... but no. now he regrets it, tho

03:29:04 [sbp]

lol:-

03:29:05 [sbp]

[[[

03:29:06 [sbp]

(rBijan) So, ANYTIME you want repeated stuff on an item (like, oh, COMMENTS!!??!?!) you have to wrap it in something.

03:29:06 [sbp]

(rBijan) BUT RDF IS FREAKING FLAT, MAN. FLAT TRIPLES YOU GITS!!!

03:29:06 [sbp]

]]]

03:29:46 [AaronSw]

heh

03:29:53 [AaronSw]

good thing bijan wasn't on the WG

03:30:06 [sbp]

Oh man, this is so great

03:30:18 [AaronSw]

(rBijan) Curses be to Sean Palmer who pointed out that 5.4 image and 5.4.4 image elements are, well, radically distinct!

03:31:04 [sbp]

* sbp laughs out loud at 3:30AM, and tries to shut up

03:31:07 [sbp]

"""(rBijan) Amazing as it may be, the RSS1.0 team managed, in far shorter time, with a much smaller team, and NO FUNDING, to produce a spec that horks on RDF and RDF users as hard as W3C schemas horks on XML and XML users. Ye gods of the nether regions."""

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03:34:54 [AaronSw]

--

03:34:55 [AaronSw]

(rBijan) Oo, I have a new theory which saves the RSS1.0 spec writers from an eternity of severe jock itch and intranostril acne.

03:34:55 [AaronSw]

(rBijan) They were in a state of shock and confusion from trying to sort out RDF M&S!!!

03:34:55 [AaronSw]

(AaronSw) That's it!

03:34:56 [AaronSw]

--

03:35:17 [sbp]

Heh, heh!

03:36:46 [AaronSw]

uh oh: OOOO, AARON JUST TOlD ME THAT THAT MIDWESTERN FREAK BISKO IS TO BLAME FOR THE NON-REPEATABILITY OF TOP LEVEL OBJECT PROPERTIES.

03:37:03 [AaronSw]

.acronym MPH

03:37:05 [xena]

MPH: Miles Per Hour, Championship Auto Racing Teams, Inc. (NYSE stock symbol), Half-Duplex Modulation Parameters (V.34 Negotiation), Manlius Pebble Hill, Masters in Public Health (degree), Minimum Path Heuristic, Mobile Parts Hospital

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03:39:51 [sbp]

Wow, RSS has really driven bijan to the break of insanity: "(rBijan) Ohhhhhhhh KEN! Ken KEN!!! Wherefore art thou KEN. I want to beat the crap OUT of you!"

03:40:18 [sbp]

s/break/brink/

03:40:20 [AaronSw]

<rBijan> Good fun and steam blowing and ADVERTING PHYSICAL VIOLENCE AGAINST YOUR PERSON...er...friendship!

03:42:40 [sbp]

.wn hork

03:42:49 [sbp]

Blargh

03:43:03 [thc]

...

03:44:00 [AaronSw]

Where's CygBot when you need him.

03:44:55 [CygBot`]

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03:45:05 [AaronSw]

.belikesbp

03:45:06 [CygBot`]

Ah, I love to rant

03:45:15 [AaronSw]

.belikesbp

03:45:17 [CygBot`]

wow, the email on www-html these days is often terrible

03:46:33 [thc]

.wd need

03:46:45 [sbp]

.wn need

03:46:47 [xena]

need defined as:

03:46:48 [xena]

- n 1: a condition requiring relief; "she satified his need for affection"; "God has no need of men to accomplish His work"; "there is a demand for jobs" [syn: {demand}]

03:46:49 [xena]

- 2: anything that is necessary but lacking; "he had sufficient means to meet his simple needs"; "I tried to supply his wants" [syn: {want}]

03:46:50 [xena]

- 3: the psychological feature that arouses an organism to action; the reason for the action; "we did not understand his motivation"; "he acted with the best of motives" [syn: {motivation}, {motive}]

03:46:51 [xena]

- 4: a state of extreme poverty or destitution; "their indigence appalled him"; "a general state of need exists among the homeless" [syn: {indigence}, {penury}, {pauperism}]

03:46:53 [sbp]

.belikesbp

03:46:54 [CygBot`]

w3c-wai-er-ig has been a bit quiet recently

03:46:57 [thc]

wn?? :)

03:47:07 [sbp]

.google WordNet

03:47:09 [xena]

WordNet: http://www.cogsci.princeton.edu/~wn

03:47:50 [thc]

.acronym wn

03:47:51 [xena]

wn: Southwest Airlines (FAA designation), Warning Notice, Washington State (legal abbreviation), What's New?, White Noise, Will Not

03:48:22 [thc]

I suppose WordNet is somewhat unofficial

03:48:41 [AaronSw]

No, it's a licensed Dictionary Professional.

03:48:54 [sbp]

.wn DP

03:48:55 [xena]

DP defined as:

03:48:56 [xena]

- n : a person forced to flee from home or country [syn: {displaced person}, {DP}, {stateless person}]

03:49:06 [sbp]

.acronym DP

03:49:07 [xena]

DP: Data Processing, Doctor of Pharmacy, Dot Pitch, (USN Rating) Data-Processing Technician, By Direction of the President, Data Package, Data Systems Interoperability Panel, DCS/Personnel, Death Penalty, Decision Paper/Package, Decision Point, Deck Paint, Deep, Deep (drafting), Defect Prevention, Defective Pricing, Defense Program, Definitely Promote, Delhi Police, Delivery Point

03:50:22 [sbp]

what was the Lovecraftian tidbit?

03:51:32 [sbp]

.acronym MIW

03:51:33 [xena]

MIW: Make It Work, Marketing Information Warehouse, Mechanical Impact Wrench, Mine Warfare, Minimum Income Widow/er (DoD SBP), Modernization Input Worksheet

03:51:54 [sbp]

DoD SBP? I'm in the DoD now, am I?

03:52:17 [thc]

:o)

03:52:19 [thc]

.acronym HP

03:52:21 [xena]

HP: Hewlett-Packard, Horsepower, Hale Pohaku (Dormitory at Mauna Kea Observatories), Half-Pint, Hand Phone (cellular phone), Hand Picked (groundnuts), Harmonic Power, Harp, Harry Potter, Headphone(s), Health Physicist, Health Physics, Health Practitioner, Heat Pipe, Helmerich & Payne (oil company), Hemi-Pelvectomy (amputation), Heptode, Hide Position, High Pass (Filter), High Performance

03:52:34 [sbp]

WTF: Dormitory at Mauna Kea Observatories

03:52:40 [sbp]

.google HP Dormitory at Mauna Kea Observatories

03:52:43 [xena]

HP Dormitory at Mauna Kea Observatories: http://www.hawaii.edu/news/kulama/970321/kulama970321.html

03:53:16 [thc]

doesn't look lovecraftian

03:53:29 [sbp]

.wn lovecraft

03:53:41 [sbp]

Blargh

03:53:45 [sbp]

.google lovecraftian

03:53:46 [thc]

.wn cthulhu

03:53:48 [xena]

lovecraftian: http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Corridor/8611/cthulhu.htm

03:55:10 [thc]

.spell arkham

03:55:22 [xena]

potential spellings for arkham are: archaism, archaic, archaea, arcade, archaeal, arcane, Archaean, archaean, archaize, archeol

03:55:39 [sbp]

.spell xena

03:55:40 [xena]

potential spellings for xena are: scena, Sanaa, senna, sana, Sana, xenia, xeno-, Xenia, zener, sennas, saner, scenas, senate

03:55:55 [thc]

.spell orc

03:55:55 [sbp]

rename xena senate!

03:56:03 [xena]

potential spellings for orc are: orch, Ork, orach, orache, orca, OCR, Orczy, ort, Orsk, Ark, ARC

03:56:08 [thc]

I like Scena

03:56:30 [sbp]

Heh, we're really smegging up the logs today. t*v will be furious

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03:57:01 [thc]

* thc takes a vow of silance

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03:57:11 [thc]

silence?

03:57:58 [CygBot]

something like that

03:58:25 [AaronSw]

aargh. he's doing the talky thing again

03:58:27 [AaronSw]

.say ok

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03:58:38 [CygBot]

Make me

03:58:48 [AaronSw]

.sean make me

03:58:57 [AaronSw]

.msg #swhack ok

03:58:58 [xena]

ok

03:58:59 [CygBot]

WTF?

03:59:14 [CygBot]

ah, you're trying to work out what channel/msg syntax I'm using!

03:59:18 [sbp]

Heh, heh

03:59:19 [AaronSw]

Yeah.

03:59:33 [sbp]

* sbp wonders if he'll find it

03:59:37 [AaronSw]

$ cat coolbot.py | grep msg

04:00:02 [CygBot]

Command "$ cat coolbot.py | grep msg" has been disabled

04:00:06 [AaronSw]

pfft.

04:00:09 [sbp]

Heh, heh

04:00:26 [AaronSw]

I should have installed a trapdoor when I was there.

04:00:40 [sbp]

Blargh

04:00:44 [AaronSw]

wait -- you run windows! it comes with trapdoors built-in!

04:00:49 [sbp]

Heh

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04:02:19 [AaronSw]

make it say something again

04:02:34 [sbp]

er... it's not up at the moment, and I'm just hacking it

04:02:49 [AaronSw]

blargh

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04:05:35 [CygBot]

There, that's better

04:07:00 [AaronSw]

It's no fun with you having to approve everything

04:07:16 [sbp]

sure it is

04:07:17 [AaronSw]

$ cat cygbot.py

04:07:24 [CygBot]

> cat: cygbot.py: No such file or directory

04:07:25 [CygBot]

> [end]

04:07:31 [AaronSw]

$ cat coolbot*

04:07:33 [CygBot]

Command "cat coolbot*" has been disabled

04:07:52 [sbp]

it'd only do the top anyway, and pollute the channel

04:08:15 [AaronSw]

$ cat cygbot.py | grep say(

04:08:20 [CygBot]

Command "cat cygbot.py | grep say(" has been disabled

04:08:41 [AaronSw]

$ man cygwin

04:08:55 [CygBot]

> man: not found

04:08:55 [CygBot]

> [end]

04:08:59 [AaronSw]

$ man bash

04:09:07 [CygBot]

> man: not found

04:09:08 [CygBot]

> [end]

04:09:14 [AaronSw]

hmmph

04:09:29 [CygBot]

Heh, heh

04:09:47 [AaronSw]

i hate that feature

04:10:02 [sbp]

what, the "not found" feature? It's not a feature of the bot :-)

04:10:28 [sbp]

It's pretty obvious why I have to have that much security. I'm not going to open up my hard drive to absolutely anyone

04:10:41 [AaronSw]

it's not anyone -- it's me!

04:10:47 [sbp]

Heh, heh

04:10:47 [thc]

:)

04:10:58 [AaronSw]

you can trust me.

04:11:16 [AaronSw]

Here, just download this program -- it's called Back Orifice.

04:11:21 [sbp]

heh, heh, heh

04:11:39 [sbp]

Yeah, I've heard that it's very good at what it does

04:11:59 [AaronSw]

remote administration -- it's for people like me to assist you with your computer difficulties

04:12:26 [sbp]

Well, you can still do the commands

04:12:29 [sbp]

$ pwd

04:12:30 [CygBot]

> /home

04:12:30 [CygBot]

> [end]

04:12:48 [AaronSw]

$ wget http://crackz.org/BackOrifice.zip

04:12:53 [CygBot]

Command "wget http://crackz.org/BackOrifice.zip" has been disabled

04:12:59 [AaronSw]

pff

04:13:13 [sbp]

s/the/sensible/

04:13:25 [CygBot]

Yeah, be sensible, Aaron

04:13:51 [AaronSw]

now I know why I didn't want to come on IRC.

04:13:55 [sbp]

Wow, you hacked spankybot so easily, I'm quite surprised with this bot

04:14:21 [sbp]

I can get rid of it, if you like

04:14:32 [sbp]

e

04:14:33 [CygBot]

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04:14:41 [AaronSw]

pff, ruin all the fun

04:14:49 [sbp]

fine

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04:14:58 [AaronSw]

e

04:15:03 [sbp]

:-)

04:15:05 [thc]

heh

04:15:34 [sbp]

I can also make it quit using the console, but, y'know, that'd involve opening the other window...

04:15:49 [AaronSw]

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04:15:54 [sbp]

lol!

04:16:03 [sbp]

He was flooding CygBot on PMSG

04:16:08 [AaronSw]

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04:16:09 [thc]

ahh

04:16:15 [sbp]

yeah :-)

04:16:34 [AaronSw]

.seen AaronSw 2

04:16:35 [xena]

AaronSw seen in #p2p-hackers saying: [ sigcomm; yes ] ~ 3 sec(s) ago

04:16:38 [AaronSw]

.seen AaronSw 3

04:16:39 [xena]

AaronSw seen in #p2p-hackers saying: [ sigcomm; yes ] ~ 7 sec(s) ago

04:16:46 [AaronSw]

oh, xena doesn't log quits

04:17:08 [sbp]

*** AaronSw has quit IRC (Excess Flood)

04:17:13 [AaronSw]

flood?

04:17:15 [AaronSw]

oh

04:17:16 [AaronSw]

that

04:17:25 [sbp]

yeah, we know what you did... :-)

04:18:38 [thc]

$ ls

04:18:48 [CygBot]

> 0.95-schema.html

04:18:50 [CygBot]

> 0.95-sopjgj.n3.text

04:18:50 [CygBot]

> 0.95-think.n3

04:18:51 [CygBot]

> 0.95.html

04:18:52 [CygBot]

> 0.95.n3

04:18:53 [CygBot]

> 2000

04:18:54 [CygBot]

> 2001-12-31.txt

04:18:55 [CygBot]

> 20020112-141032.bash_history

04:18:57 [CygBot]

> 20020112-184806.sha

04:18:57 [CygBot]

> 4a59e80b6a5bfb4c8d8a592086a290b347c5d2b62418abe878cfa8037063ca268edeadd184bc3d54bf683584f294caf7a3109c90458b45f93d25587618070fa1

04:19:01 [CygBot]

> ATCS2.html

04:19:02 [CygBot]

> ATCS2.txt

04:19:04 [CygBot]

> Copy of 20020109-223625.sh

04:19:06 [CygBot]

> Copy of 20020109-223634.sh

04:19:08 [CygBot]

> Copy of 20020109-223647.sh

04:19:10 [CygBot]

> Copy of SimpleText.py

04:19:12 [CygBot]

> Copy of rdfstoxhtml.n3

04:19:14 [CygBot]

> Copy of simpsons.py

04:19:16 [CygBot]

> [...]

04:19:27 [thc]

that's alot of output

04:19:35 [sbp]

DCC? That's clever, Aaron

04:19:59 [sbp]

yeah, I should trim the output down

04:20:14 [sbp]

I've been wondering about: n$ command, where n is the max. number of lines to output

04:20:39 [thc]

to allow larger outputs if needed

04:20:52 [thc]

then limit to something smaller, say only 6 lines

04:20:56 [sbp]

yep

04:21:23 [AaronSw]

http://cvs.plexdev.org/viewcvs/viewcvs.cgi/plex/plex/chord/

04:21:25 [thc]

an absolute maximum of something less than 25 would help

04:21:40 [AaronSw]

except by privmsg

04:23:18 [AaronSw]

deltab, feel free to tell me why http://cvs.plexdev.org/viewcvs/viewcvs.cgi/plex/plex/chord/main.py?rev=1.3&content-type=text/vnd.viewcvs-markup doesn't work

04:26:14 [sbp]

e

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04:27:00 [AaronSw]

I like the "die, die, die" syntax a lot better than "e"

04:27:18 [sbp]

heh, heh

04:29:09 [AaronSw]

* AaronSw minimiezes

04:29:14 [AaronSw]

err minimizes

04:32:45 [thc]

.time

04:32:46 [xena]

2002/01/16 04:34:24.165 Universal

04:33:07 [CygBot]

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04:33:14 [thc]

$ date

04:33:20 [CygBot]

> Wed Jan 16 04:34:07 2002

04:33:20 [CygBot]

> [end]

04:33:45 [thc]

.spell discrepency

04:34:07 [xena]

potential spellings for discrepency are: discrepancy, discrepancies, discordancy, discreteness, discreetness, descriptions, discordancies, discreetnesses, disaccharides, discordances

04:34:33 [thc]

aha a discrepancy

04:36:02 [sbp]

ugh, Aaron: 55. Aaron Swartz 59

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04:36:57 [sbp]

wb

04:37:16 [thc]

ty; hit some strange key combination

04:37:23 [sbp]

Heh, cool

04:40:15 [thc]

$ have fun

04:40:23 [CygBot]

> have: not found

04:40:23 [CygBot]

> [end]

04:40:30 [thc]

$ touch yourself

04:40:39 [CygBot]

> [end]

04:40:58 [AaronSw]

.google mac os x watson

04:41:00 [thc]

& ls -l yourself

04:41:00 [xena]

mac os x watson: /url?sa=U&start=1&q=http://www.allosx.com/&e=42

04:41:12 [AaronSw]

.google karelia watson

04:41:13 [xena]

karelia watson: http://www.karelia.com/watson

04:42:40 [sbp]

$ ls -l yourself

04:42:42 [CygBot]

> ls: yourself: No such file or directory

04:42:42 [CygBot]

> [end]

04:42:56 [sbp]

s/&/$/

04:43:05 [thc]

I noticed

04:43:14 [thc]

I was sidetracked by watson though

04:43:28 [thc]

or kaelia or something

04:44:37 [sbp]

* sbp did a sneaky $ rm yourself

04:44:49 [thc]

* thc guessed as much

04:44:57 [sbp]

Heh, heh

04:46:10 [thc]

$ /usr/games/fortune

04:46:16 [CygBot]

> /usr/games/fortune: not found

04:46:16 [CygBot]

> [end]

04:46:34 [sbp]

feel free to download it

04:46:34 [thc]

.fortune

04:46:35 [xena]

Constraints imposed on pleasure incite the pleasure of living without constraints.

04:47:02 [thc]

download it how?

04:47:28 [sbp]

dunno. find it on the Web for me, and use wget, or whatever. You have access to my shell :-)

04:47:51 [sbp]

actually, I should get it through CygWin, but that means I'll have to restart it

04:47:53 [thc]

I assumed such things would be restricted

04:48:05 [sbp]

no, not restricted for that

04:48:22 [thc]

$ wget --help

04:48:29 [CygBot]

> Usage: wget [OPTION]... [URL]...

04:48:30 [CygBot]

>

04:48:31 [CygBot]

> Mandatory arguments to long options are mandatory for short options too.

04:48:32 [CygBot]

>

04:48:33 [CygBot]

> Startup:

04:48:34 [CygBot]

> -V, --version display the version of Wget and exit.

04:48:35 [CygBot]

> -h, --help print this help.

04:48:36 [CygBot]

> -b, --background go to background after startup.

04:48:37 [CygBot]

> -e, --execute=COMMAND execute a `.wgetrc'-style command.

04:48:38 [CygBot]

>

04:48:39 [CygBot]

> Logging and input file:

04:48:41 [CygBot]

> -o, --output-file=FILE log messages to FILE.

04:48:43 [CygBot]

> -a, --append-output=FILE append messages to FILE.

04:48:45 [CygBot]

> -d, --debug print debug output.

04:48:47 [CygBot]

> -q, --quiet quiet (no output).

04:48:49 [CygBot]

> -v, --verbose be verbose (this is the default).

04:48:51 [CygBot]

> -nv, --non-verbose turn off verboseness, without being quiet.

04:48:53 [CygBot]

> -i, --input-file=FILE download URLs found in FILE.

04:48:55 [CygBot]

> [...]

04:49:00 [thc]

I should really pmsg this sort of thing

04:49:16 [sbp]

it'll spew it to the channel still. I need to fix that

04:49:18 [sbp]

* sbp does so

04:49:26 [tav]

$ wget http://google.com

04:49:36 [CygBot]

> --04:50:21-- http://google.com/

04:49:37 [CygBot]

> => `index.html'

04:49:37 [CygBot]

> Connecting to google.com:80... connected!

04:49:38 [CygBot]

> HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 302 Moved Temporarily

04:49:40 [CygBot]

> Location: http://www.google.com/ [following]

04:49:40 [CygBot]

> --04:50:22-- http://www.google.com/

04:49:42 [CygBot]

> => `index.html'

04:49:43 [CygBot]

> Connecting to www.google.com:80... connected!

04:49:44 [CygBot]

> HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK

04:49:45 [CygBot]

> Length: 2,202 [text/html]

04:49:46 [CygBot]

>

04:49:48 [CygBot]

> 0K .. 100% @ 4.89 KB/s

04:49:50 [CygBot]

>

04:49:52 [CygBot]

> 04:50:23 (4.89 KB/s) - `index.html' saved [2202/2202]

04:49:54 [CygBot]

>

04:49:56 [CygBot]

> [end]

04:49:59 [thc]

cool :-)

04:50:15 [sbp]

* sbp hopes there wasn't anything decent in index.html

04:50:41 [tav]

w00p! we can download stuff to sbp's computer

04:50:46 [thc]

:o)

04:50:50 [sbp]

:-)

04:51:54 [tav]

$ wget http://www.bushmen-tribe.com/usr/ost/Shakira%20-%20Whenever,%20Wherever.mpeg

04:51:59 [CygBot]

Command "wget http://www.bushmen-tribe.com/usr/ost/Shakira%20-%20Whenever,%20Wherever.mpeg" has been disabled

04:52:08 [tav]

damnit!

04:52:12 [tav]

$ ls

04:52:15 [sbp]

".mpeg"? Pff

04:52:18 [CygBot]

> 0.95-schema.html

04:52:19 [CygBot]

> 0.95-sopjgj.n3.text

04:52:20 [CygBot]

> 0.95-think.n3

04:52:21 [CygBot]

> 0.95.html

04:52:22 [CygBot]

> 0.95.n3

04:52:23 [CygBot]

> 2000

04:52:24 [CygBot]

> 2001-12-31.txt

04:52:25 [CygBot]

> 20020112-141032.bash_history

04:52:26 [CygBot]

> 20020112-184806.sha

04:52:27 [CygBot]

> 4a59e80b6a5bfb4c8d8a592086a290b347c5d2b62418abe878cfa8037063ca268edeadd184bc3d54bf683584f294caf7a3109c90458b45f93d25587618070fa1

04:52:29 [CygBot]

> ATCS2.html

04:52:31 [CygBot]

> ATCS2.txt

04:52:33 [CygBot]

> Copy of 20020109-223625.sh

04:52:35 [CygBot]

> Copy of 20020109-223634.sh

04:52:38 [CygBot]

> Copy of 20020109-223647.sh

04:52:39 [CygBot]

> Copy of SimpleText.py

04:52:41 [CygBot]

> Copy of rdfstoxhtml.n3

04:52:43 [CygBot]

> Copy of simpsons.py

04:52:45 [CygBot]

> [...]

04:53:00 [CygBot]

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04:53:07 [tav]

heh

04:53:12 [sbp]

* sbp cuts the spew length down to 10

04:53:16 [tav]

$ du -s

04:53:41 [CygBot]

Command "du -s" has been disabled

04:53:44 [tav]

heh

04:53:48 [tav]

$ df

04:53:57 [CygBot]

Command "df" has been disabled

04:54:03 [tav]

$ pwd

04:54:07 [CygBot]

> /home

04:54:07 [CygBot]

> [end]

04:54:14 [tav]

$ pwd; wget wget http://www.bushmen-tribe.com/usr/ost/Shakira%20-%20Whenever,%20Wherever.mpeg

04:54:21 [CygBot]

Command "pwd; wget wget http://www.bushmen-tribe.com/usr/ost/Shakira%20-%20Whenever,%20Wherever.mpeg" has been disabled

04:54:28 [sbp]

".mpeg"? Heh, heh

04:54:38 [tav]

it's a good music vid

04:54:46 [sbp]

Uh huh? How big?

04:54:51 [tav]

40 odd megs

04:54:54 [sbp]

:-)

04:54:59 [thc]

hehe

04:56:34 [thc]

$ pwd; wget http://ils.student.utwente.nl/main/s/simon_and_garfunkel/america.crd # oh what a thrill!

04:56:47 [CygBot]

> --04:57:33-- http://ils.student.utwente.nl/main/s/simon_and_garfunkel/america.crd

04:56:48 [CygBot]

> => `america.crd'

04:56:49 [CygBot]

> Connecting to ils.student.utwente.nl:80... connected!

04:56:50 [CygBot]

> HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK

04:56:51 [CygBot]

> Length: 4,993 [text/plain]

04:56:52 [CygBot]

>

04:56:53 [CygBot]

> 0K .... 100% @ 4.76 MB/s

04:56:54 [CygBot]

>

04:56:55 [CygBot]

> 04:57:34 (4.76 MB/s) - `america.crd' saved [4993/4993]

04:56:56 [CygBot]

> [...]

04:56:58 [thc]

*hmm*

04:56:59 [AaronSw]

heh!

04:57:03 [sbp]

"America" is a great song

04:57:09 [thc]

indeed

04:57:14 [sbp]

But I can already play it

04:57:15 [thc]

$ pwd

04:57:20 [CygBot]

> /home

04:57:20 [CygBot]

> [end]

04:57:22 [thc]

Oh :-)

04:57:25 [sbp]

So I didn't really need the chords...

04:57:31 [thc]

everyone should be able to play that song

04:57:35 [sbp]

indeed

04:57:39 [thc]

well it's for reference

04:57:42 [thc]

:D

04:57:45 [sbp]

:-)

04:59:48 [sbp]

e

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05:01:26 [CygBot]

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05:01:30 [sbp]

$ ls

05:01:31 [CygBot]

> 0.95-schema.html

05:01:32 [CygBot]

> 0.95-sopjgj.n3.text

05:01:33 [CygBot]

> 0.95-think.n3

05:01:34 [CygBot]

> 0.95.html

05:01:35 [CygBot]

> 0.95.n3

05:01:36 [CygBot]

> 2000

05:01:38 [CygBot]

> [...]

05:01:42 [sbp]

5$ ls

05:01:43 [CygBot]

> 0.95-schema.html

05:01:43 [CygBot]

> 0.95-sopjgj.n3.text

05:01:43 [CygBot]

> 0.95-think.n3

05:01:43 [CygBot]

> 0.95.html

05:01:44 [CygBot]

> [...]

05:01:48 [sbp]

3$ ls

05:01:48 [thc]

:-))

05:01:49 [CygBot]

> 0.95-schema.html

05:01:49 [CygBot]

> 0.95-sopjgj.n3.text

05:01:50 [CygBot]

> [...]

05:02:00 [thc]

0$ ls

05:02:08 [sbp]

it seems to work. It'll probably crash if you do 1$ ls, but oh well

05:02:11 [thc]

-2$ ls

05:02:15 [thc]

oh

05:02:20 [sbp]

1$ ls

05:02:21 [CygBot]

> [...]

05:02:27 [thc]

hehe cool

05:02:28 [sbp]

ooh, it didn't crash

05:02:45 [thc]

and is there a maximum?

05:03:02 [sbp]

yep: 15/20

05:03:07 [sbp]

ooh, I messed that up

05:03:40 [sbp]

"if the maximum length is bigger than 15, set the maximum length to 20" - paraphrasing the CygBot source code

05:03:49 [sbp]

what shall I set it to?

05:03:49 [thc]

Ah

05:04:03 [thc]

hm

05:04:15 [thc]

will privmsg be longer?

05:04:24 [sbp]

I can make it so

05:04:35 [thc]

that would be a good idea

05:04:35 [CygBot]

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05:04:51 [thc]

then in-channel can limit to maybe 12

05:05:05 [thc]

half a terminal

05:05:44 [thc]

sorta makes sense :)

05:06:36 [sbp]

sorta

05:07:06 [thc]

.spell sorta

05:07:07 [xena]

potential spellings for sorta are: Sorata, sutra, Surat, Seurat, sorts, Srta, souter, sortie, sauter, suiter, Soria, Surtees, Souter

05:07:40 [thc]

sortie... I associate that word with parties and french lingerie

05:07:45 [thc]

wonder what it means

05:08:03 [sbp]

aviation thing, I think

05:08:04 [sbp]

.wn sortie

05:08:05 [xena]

sortie defined as:

05:08:06 [xena]

- n 1: a military action in which besieged troops burst forth from their position [syn: {sally}]

05:08:07 [xena]

- 2: an operational flight by a single aircraft (as in a military operation)

05:08:41 [thc]

*hmm* Maybe I should see a psychologist

05:09:08 [thc]

s/psychologist/psychiatrist

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05:11:53 [thc]

99$ cat `ls` `ls` `ls`

05:12:48 [CygBot]

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05:13:02 [sbp]

heh, it allowed it, but it took too long. You got greedy

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05:13:14 [thc]

oh sorry :o)

05:13:39 [thc]

20$ ls

05:13:50 [CygBot]

> 0.95-schema.html

05:13:52 [CygBot]

> 0.95-sopjgj.n3.text

05:13:53 [CygBot]

> 0.95-think.n3

05:13:54 [CygBot]

> 0.95.html

05:13:55 [CygBot]

> 0.95.n3

05:13:56 [CygBot]

> 2000

05:13:56 [CygBot]

> 2001-12-31.txt

05:13:57 [CygBot]

> 20020112-141032.bash_history

05:13:59 [CygBot]

> 20020112-184806.sha

05:14:00 [CygBot]

> [...]

05:14:24 [sbp]

maxlen = 10

05:14:37 [thc]

yes

05:14:53 [thc]

9 real lines

05:15:06 [thc]

.spell abstemious

05:15:07 [xena]

potential spellings for abstemious are: abstemious, abstemiously, abstains, abstentious, abstainers, obesities, epistomes, abscises, abscissas, Abbasids

05:16:57 [AaronSw]

http://www.apple.com/myths/.

05:17:07 [AaronSw]

http://www.apple.com/myths/

05:17:10 [thc]

thc has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer))

05:20:06 [thc]

thc (lambda@modem-4332.orangutan.dialup.pol.co.uk) has joined #swhack

05:21:14 [sbp]

wb

05:21:30 [thc]

ty

05:21:36 [sbp]

np

05:21:41 [thc]

ok

05:21:47 [sbp]

hh

05:21:59 [thc]

vg

05:22:10 [sbp]

pm

05:22:16 [thc]

nt

05:22:40 [sbp]

um

05:22:46 [thc]

er

05:22:49 [sbp]

lol

05:23:16 [thc]

$ w

05:23:29 [CygBot]

> w: not found

05:23:29 [CygBot]

> [end]

05:23:47 [thc]

$ who

05:23:55 [CygBot]

> who: /var/run/utmp

05:23:56 [CygBot]

> [end]

05:24:24 [thc]

$ file /var/run/utmp # *blink*

05:24:35 [CygBot]

Command "file /var/run/utmp # *blink*" has been disabled

05:24:41 [thc]

no file?

05:24:52 [sbp]

doesn't seem so

05:25:14 [sbp]

$ file /var/run/utmp

05:25:15 [CygBot]

> /var/run/utmp: empty

05:25:15 [CygBot]

> [end]

05:25:37 [thc]

file is a very good command

05:25:48 [sbp]

Perhaps I should allow your natty [sic] comments? :-)

05:25:53 [sbp]

$ file --help

05:25:54 [CygBot]

> Usage: file [-bciknsvzL] [-f namefile] [-m magicfiles] file...

05:25:54 [CygBot]

> Usage: file -C [-m magic]

05:25:54 [CygBot]

> [end]

05:26:09 [thc]

Ahh

05:26:25 [sbp]

yes, it is a cool command

05:26:40 [sbp]

5$ file blargh*

05:26:41 [CygBot]

> blargh mCrypto: directory

05:26:41 [CygBot]

> blargh-out.text: empty

05:26:41 [CygBot]

> blargh.bat: ASCII text, with CRLF line terminators

05:26:41 [CygBot]

> blargh.txt: ASCII text, with CRLF line terminators

05:26:41 [CygBot]

> [...]

05:26:56 [thc]

hehe

05:27:29 [sbp]

$ ls blargh\ mCrypto | wc

05:27:30 [CygBot]

> 24 24 267

05:27:31 [CygBot]

> [end]

05:28:05 [thc]

$ ls -1 *blargh* | wc

05:28:14 [CygBot]

> 34 34 381

05:28:14 [CygBot]

> [end]

05:29:08 [thc]

1$ grep --help

05:29:12 [CygBot]

> [...]

05:29:18 [thc]

2$ grep --help

05:29:21 [CygBot]

> Search for PATTERN in each FILE or standard input.

05:29:22 [CygBot]

> [...]

05:29:24 [sbp]

So, thc, do you have a homepage or other Web presence?

05:29:34 [thc]

not... exactly

05:29:55 [thc]

I suffer from content defficiency

05:30:04 [sbp]

really? I wouldn't have guessed

05:30:28 [thc]

because I'm stupid and shallow?

05:30:40 [thc]

:D

05:30:58 [sbp]

argh, no sarcasm intended

05:31:16 [sbp]

which is odd, for me

05:31:17 [AaronSw]

sbp, what was it you wanted me to do to my website?

05:32:05 [AaronSw]

how's this:

05:32:14 [AaronSw]

$ u browser http://www.aaronsw.com/

05:32:27 [AaronSw]

.http://www.aaronsw.com/

05:32:30 [xena]

Aaron Swartz | AaronSw | my.life my.life: the wacky story of aaron swartz Nearby: swartzfam.com | crit this page | google backlinks If this page seems devoid of color and excitement, you need a browser that supports CSS. If you're interested you can find a CSS-compliant browser. Prose School Curious how I'm doing? Check out schoolyard subversion my real-life weblog of the plot to change my

05:32:31 [xena]

school. My best piece so far is on unschooling, a program to learn on your own. Other highlights include my plan for Apprentice Education, my questioning of school rules and my review of ArsDigita University. Join the revolution. Swhack Weblog My friends and I run the Swhack Weblog where we post links and notes we find interesting. I also "chump" interesting Semantic Web-related sites on the RDF IG

05:32:31 [xena]

.. a very large amount of text.

05:32:32 [CygBot]

> Code was 302 (http://swartzfam.com/aaron/), continue? [Y/N]: Getting http://swartzfam.com/aaron/...

05:32:33 [CygBot]

> Got it: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1

05:32:34 [CygBot]

> Aaron Swartz | AaronSw | my.life

05:32:35 [CygBot]

> <<doorknob.jpg> My face reflected in a doorknob.>

05:32:36 [CygBot]

> @ my.life: the wacky story of aaron swartz

05:32:37 [CygBot]

>

05:32:38 [CygBot]

> [...]

05:32:46 [sbp]

ah, cool

05:32:54 [AaronSw]

"If this page seems devoid of color and excitement, you need a browser that supports CSS. If you're interested you can find a CSS-compliant browser."

05:33:08 [sbp]

yep, I realized. It's kinda funny

05:33:19 [AaronSw]

Why's that?

05:33:30 [sbp]

it's not what most people say on their sites :-)

05:33:49 [sbp]

BTW, new syntax: d$ command, where d is a digit indicating length of output

05:33:53 [sbp]

maximum: 10

05:34:11 [AaronSw]

i saw

05:35:31 [thc]

.time

05:35:32 [xena]

2002/01/16 05:37:10.2903 Universal

05:35:34 [thc]

Heh my mother just got up.

05:35:48 [sbp]

:-)

05:35:52 [sbp]

How old are ya?

05:37:00 [thc]

18

05:37:11 [thc]

too old, imho

05:37:23 [sbp]

Heh. Well I'm 19, so that's way too old :-)

05:38:54 [AaronSw]

and i'm not, so that's, um...

05:38:54 [AaronSw]

anyway, how are things with the misses?

05:39:23 [sbp]

I don't miss much

05:39:23 [AaronSw]

that's one way to deal with it, i guess

05:39:23 [sbp]

:-)

05:39:23 [AaronSw]

thc probably was thinking of soiree not sortie

05:39:23 [thc]

:-)

05:39:23 [thc]

no soiree crossed my mind at the time

05:39:23 [thc]

I just didn't know what sortie meant

05:39:41 [AaronSw]

i meant re: <thc> sortie... I associate that word with parties and french lingerie

05:39:46 [tav]

tav is now known as this-channel-sux

05:39:52 [thc]

I know.

05:39:52 [this-channel-sux]

this-channel-sux is now known as tav

05:39:55 [AaronSw]

hmm, but whcih channel is that?

05:40:02 [sbp]

Heh! I was just wondering that

05:40:11 [thc]

tav on #swhack

05:40:14 [thc]

*hmm*

05:40:15 [sbp]

That was a really bad case of nick-change-joke-spill

05:40:23 [AaronSw]

i think that was the joke.

05:40:27 [AaronSw]

maybe..

05:40:31 [sbp]

Hmm...

05:40:47 [AaronSw]

xena needs a scroll up feature for times like this.

05:40:53 [sbp]

heh, heh

05:41:03 [AaronSw]

.seen tav 3

05:41:04 [xena]

tav seen in #swhack saying: [ 40 odd megs ] ~ 46 min(s) 12 sec(s) ago

05:41:07 [AaronSw]

.seen tav 2

05:41:08 [xena]

tav seen changing nickname to this-channel-sux ~ 1 min(s) 21 sec(s) ago

05:41:10 [tav]

heh

05:41:12 [AaronSw]

hmm

05:41:14 [sbp]

Hmm...

05:42:01 [sbp]

so thc, how on earth did you find #swhack?

05:42:30 [AaronSw]

I'm guessing it's Wave Diner's fault.

05:42:52 [sbp]

how so?

05:42:54 [thc]

part of logicerror, some time ago

05:43:08 [thc]

I've been here briefly before

05:43:13 [sbp]

Ah, it's Aaron

05:43:17 [AaronSw]

Well, I ate at Wave Diner once, but the food wasn't very good...

05:43:18 [thc]

indeed

05:43:19 [sbp]

Aaron's fault

05:43:23 [sbp]

damn ' key

05:43:26 [sbp]

.belikesbp

05:43:27 [CygBot]

wow, the email on www-html these days is often terrible

05:43:29 [sbp]

.belikesbp

05:43:30 [CygBot]

Hmm... I wonder what other uses of the Semantic Web there are?

05:43:31 [sbp]

.belikesbp

05:43:32 [CygBot]

Ugh, damn ' key!

05:43:35 [sbp]

hooray!

05:43:36 [AaronSw]

Heh.

05:43:39 [thc]

hehe

05:43:42 [AaronSw]

bad random number generator

05:43:45 [sbp]

:-)

05:44:06 [sbp]

what didya call yourself when you were here before?

05:44:16 [thc]

checking logs?

05:44:20 [thc]

probably finejung

05:44:24 [AaronSw]

finejung... i wondered if he was fine tuning for a second

05:44:26 [sbp]

can do. We have logster grep

05:44:34 [thc]

cool

05:44:38 [AaronSw]

.seen finejung

05:44:39 [xena]

finejung seen in #swhack saying: [ Maybe Mac owns a straight thing. ] ~ 2 hr(s) 29 min(s) 54 sec(s) ago

05:44:47 [sbp]

logster, grep 1-1 finejung

05:45:00 [logster]

I'm logging. I found 149 answers for 'finejung' (showing 1...1)

05:45:01 [logster]

1) 2002-01-16 05:44:39 <xena> finejung seen in #swhack saying: [ Maybe Mac owns a straight thing. ] ~ 2 hr(s) 29 min(s) 54 sec(s) ago

05:45:03 [sbp]

greps take ages

05:45:17 [AaronSw]

heh

05:45:23 [thc]

heh you'll need to go previous to today

05:45:25 [AaronSw]

that was two hours ago?

05:45:43 [sbp]

yeah

05:45:53 [thc]

2.5, time is bizarre

05:45:56 [AaronSw]

oh, finejung saying it was.

05:47:17 [thc]

I could supply a time for when I was here, probably

05:47:29 [sbp]

ah: 2001-12-19

05:48:35 [thc]

Session Start: Mon Dec 17 01:39:43 2001

05:48:35 [AaronSw]

2001-12-19

05:48:45 [thc]

hmm

05:48:51 [thc]

:)

05:49:19 [AaronSw]

http://blogspace.com/swhack/chatlogs/2001-12-17

05:50:03 [sbp]

$ lynx http://blogspace.com/swhack/chatlogs/2001-12-17 -dump | grep 1:39

05:50:12 [CygBot]

> 01:39:18 [AaronSw]

05:50:13 [CygBot]

> 01:39:30 [sbp]

05:50:14 [CygBot]

> 01:39:57 [AaronSw]

05:50:15 [CygBot]

> 02:51:39 [sbp]

05:50:16 [CygBot]

> 21:39:37 [Stu]

05:50:17 [CygBot]

> 22:01:39 [Morbus]

05:50:18 [CygBot]

> [...]

05:50:23 [sbp]

yeah, that sucked

05:50:30 [sbp]

$ lynx http://blogspace.com/swhack/chatlogs/2001-12-17.txt -dump | grep 01:39

05:50:31 [thc]

:)

05:50:37 [CygBot]

> 01:39:08 <AaronSw> "The most challenging and thoughtful Web design book of 2001

05:50:38 [CygBot]

> 01:39:18 <AaronSw> He could write the back-of-book blurbs all by himself!

05:50:38 [CygBot]

> 01:39:30 <sbp> is my site reviewed?

05:50:38 [CygBot]

> 01:39:57 <AaronSw> I think you'd fall into "HTML Minimalism"

05:50:38 [CygBot]

> 22:01:39 <Morbus> ciao.

05:50:38 [CygBot]

> [end]

05:50:58 [sbp]

Heh: HTML Minimalism. I remember that

05:51:13 [thc]

I've always wondered where the word wiki- came from.

05:51:26 [sbp]

It's Hawaiian for "quick"

05:51:33 [AaronSw]

wikiwiki, actually

05:51:40 [thc]

Ah wikiwiki

05:51:42 [thc]

OK

05:51:48 [sbp]

WikiWiki means "very quick"

05:51:56 [sbp]

I think. Dunno

05:52:07 [tav]

rofl!

05:52:08 [tav]

--

05:52:09 [tav]

It's official. Tav is a genius! Read this, and tell me if this guy shouldn't be part of the Radio team? Dave, are you listening? Hire this guy. He knows how to make your products even greater than they are.

05:52:09 [sbp]

.google Hawaiian quick Wiki

05:52:10 [tav]

--

05:52:10 [xena]

Hawaiian quick Wiki: http://www.leuf.net/zhurnal/zw?WikiWikiWeb

05:52:19 [sbp]

lol!

05:52:20 [AaronSw]

tav, hwo said that?

05:52:23 [sbp]

where's that from?

05:52:31 [tav]

some phil ackley guy

05:52:36 [tav]

http://radio.weblogs.com/0100165

05:52:42 [sbp]

You were right, Aaron: "Wikiwiki" means "quick" in Hawaiian.

05:52:47 [AaronSw]

Cool.

05:52:52 [tav]

sbp: you no know that?

05:52:54 [tav]

foo!

05:53:00 [tav]

.google wiki

05:53:01 [xena]

wiki: http://c2.com/cgi/wiki

05:53:06 [AaronSw]

he thought it meant "very quick"

05:53:12 [tav]

^ go read every page there!

05:53:22 [AaronSw]

Heh, he's read them all twice -- that's why he forgot.

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05:54:29 [AaronSw]

heh, i've been wanting the "who's talking about me?" thing on advogato

05:54:31 [AaronSw]

Charlie Goodier has been reading our logs.

05:54:39 [AaronSw]

He says the secure voting thing should go into the Plex.

05:54:49 [AaronSw]

Along with Ebay 2.0.

05:55:03 [sbp]

Charlie? Where?

05:55:09 [AaronSw]

via email

05:55:11 [sbp]

.google "Charlie Goodier" Plex

05:55:12 [sbp]

oh

05:55:13 [xena]

no results found.

05:56:02 [AaronSw]

ok, now i really must go to sleep.

05:56:06 [AaronSw]

read my blog if you miss me

05:56:10 [sbp]

all I need to be able to do now is check my email my IRC

05:56:14 [sbp]

miss you? Heh, heh, heh!

05:56:16 [AaronSw]

heh

05:56:18 [sbp]

will do

05:56:19 [sbp]

c'ya

05:56:23 [AaronSw]

and let me know if my server comes. http://wwwapps.ups.com/etracking/tracking.cgi?InquiryNumber1=1Z423E7W4202551871&TypeOfInquiryNumber=T&HTMLVersion=4.0&tracknums_displayed=5&sort_by=status&line1=1Z423E7W4202551871%2C303187891862bb0000df8eaacbedaafba7202020%2C%2C303187891862bb0000df8eaacbedaa3948202020%2CI%2C%2C20020114%2C215700%2CCACH%2CIL%2CUS%2C%2C%2C%2C%2C%2C20020114%2CHIGHLAND+PARK%2CIL%2CUS%2CGROUND%2C40.00%2CLBS%2C1%2C20020117%2C%2C%2C+%2Ctdts%2C

05:56:23 [AaronSw]

02020202020202020202020202020202020202020202020202020%2C2020202020202020202020202020202020202020%2C423E7W%2C%2C%2C423E7W%2C%2C%2C%2C%2C&DCRError=0&tdts1.x=7&tdts1.y=15

05:56:28 [AaronSw]

now that's a URL!

05:56:37 [AaronSw]

nite

05:57:06 [thc]

:)

05:57:23 [sbp]

heh, heh: """The last time I tracked a UPS package, I reloaded the tracking page and found that it had been delivered. Somewhat surprised, I went downstairs and opened the door and there it was!"""

05:57:51 [sbp]

- http://radio.weblogs.com/0100663/, Aaron Swartz: Secret Agent

05:58:04 [sbp]

Hmm... if I could just check my mail now via. IRC, I'd be set

05:58:10 [sbp]

ah, I could do it via. Python

05:58:22 [thc]

:o)

05:58:25 [AaronSw]

just put it on the web and use cygbot and lynx

05:58:33 [sbp]

Heh!

05:58:34 [AaronSw]

oops, i'm supposed to be sleeping

05:58:38 [sbp]

yeah. Pff

05:58:50 [sbp]

Go count some sheep

05:58:53 [sbp]

imaginary sheep

05:58:53 [AaronSw]

i need to get aimbot running on OPN

05:59:03 [sbp]

aimbot? That'd be funny

05:59:13 [AaronSw]

err, i guess it's IMBot.

05:59:15 [AaronSw]

it's cool

05:59:27 [sbp]

I don't hear counting of sheep

05:59:35 [AaronSw]

* AaronSw vanishes under the covers

06:00:53 [thc]

$ date

06:01:19 [thc]

.time

06:01:20 [xena]

2002/01/16 06:02:58.379 Universal

06:01:42 [sbp]

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06:02:05 [thc]

xena should not quote so many significant figures in her time reports.

06:02:22 [sbp]

That's the best bit!

06:02:37 [thc]

it's bound to be somewhat inaccurate.

06:02:42 [thc]

:D

06:02:55 [sbp]

* sbp considers creating a weblog, possibly a R8 weblog, but then figures that it'd be too mad, too scary, too out-there. Oh, alright: I'm too lazy. There, are you happy?

06:03:12 [sbp]

inaccurate: they should set it using NTP

06:03:13 [thc]

R8?

06:03:18 [sbp]

Radio 8

06:03:32 [thc]

.acronym NTP

06:03:34 [xena]

NTP: National Tasking Plan, National Toxicity Program, National Toxicology Program, Naval Tactical Publication, Naval Telecommunications Procedure, Naval Threat Product, Naval Training Program, Navy Technological Projection, Navy Technology Projections, Navy Training Plan, Network Termination Point, Network Time Protocol, Network Topology Processor, None Too Pretty, Nontobacco Premium

06:03:35 [xena]

(insurance), Normal Temperature & Pressure, Nortriptyline (tranquilizer and tricyclic antidepressant), Notice To Proceed, Nucleotide Triphosphate

06:03:42 [thc]

whoo popular one

06:03:43 [sbp]

Network Time Protocol

06:03:48 [thc]

ok :)

06:04:17 [sbp]

It's incredible how people stay up so late on here

06:04:21 [thc]

I should figure this stuff out soon

06:04:26 [thc]

yes, I blame you

06:04:34 [thc]

well this channel

06:04:40 [sbp]

fine, go ahead, blame me, everyone else does

06:04:50 [sbp]

never blame #swhack! how dare you?!

06:04:51 [thc]

mostly CygBot's fault

06:04:53 [sbp]

:-)

06:04:55 [sbp]

yeah

06:05:03 [thc]

$who am i

06:05:06 [thc]

muhahaha

06:05:18 [thc]

erm space required

06:05:24 [thc]

$ who am i

06:05:25 [sbp]

it's not up: that's a GHOST

06:05:31 [sbp]

$ ls

06:05:31 [thc]

Oh

06:05:35 [sbp]

$ rm *

06:05:39 [thc]

:)

06:05:39 [sbp]

$ pwd

06:05:41 [sbp]

:-)

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06:06:02 [sbp]

$ echo "I keep people awake"

06:06:03 [CygBot]

> I keep people awake

06:06:03 [CygBot]

> [end]

06:06:10 [thc]

$ who am i

06:06:12 [thc]

muhahaha

06:06:15 [CygBot]

> [end]

06:06:19 [thc]

*cough*

06:06:53 [thc]

.acronym thc

06:06:54 [xena]

thc: Tetrahydrocannabinol (psychoactive compound in marijuana), Target Heading Change, Target Homing Correlator, Temperature and Humidity Control, Terminal Handling Charge, Texas Hemp Campaign, Texas Historical Commission (aka Texas SHPO), The Happy Chemical, Thunder Hill Crew, Total Hydrocarbon, Trace Heating Control, Tsinghua Class of Changsha First Middle School, Hunan, PR China

06:07:14 [thc]

the happy chamical

06:07:27 [thc]

s/chamical/chemical

06:08:13 [thc]

*yawn* :-)

06:08:23 [thc]

.google Tsinghua Class of Changsha

06:08:25 [xena]

Tsinghua Class of Changsha: http://www-personal.engin.umich.edu/~zhangwg/album.htm

06:09:26 [thc]

.acronym pc

06:09:28 [xena]

pc: Personal Computer, Piece, Politically Correct, Post Cibum (Latin: After Meals), Professional Corporation (business legal entity), (USN Rating) Postal Clerk, Coastal Patrol (Ship, US Navy), La Presse Canadienne (Canadian Press News Service), Pacific Coast Railroad, Pacing Count, Package Coordinator, Panama Canal, Panama City (Florida), Paper Change, Paper Clip, Para-Commander (type of

06:09:28 [xena]

parachute), Pareto Chart, Parsec (astronomical unit of distance), Parti Communiste (French Communist Party), Passport Control (checkpoints in the EcoChallenge race)

06:09:57 [thc]

*hmm* must limit output

06:10:11 [sbp]

xena basically gets to do what she wants

06:10:22 [sbp]

.don't you, xena?

06:10:49 [sbp]

but when I bring a bot in - oh no! can't do that. Must limit all output length

06:10:56 [sbp]

*sigh*

06:11:11 [thc]

:)

06:11:20 [sbp]

Oh well. CygBot proves my mighty bot programming capabilities! Well, perhaps not...

06:11:30 [thc]

I meant xena must be limiting her output since pa*c* wasn't completed

06:12:09 [thc]

if that makes any sense...

06:12:15 [sbp]

Nope, none whatsoever

06:12:18 [sbp]

Do you program?

06:12:43 [thc]

not enough to write something genuinely useful

06:12:58 [sbp]

I didn't either until I found Python - http://www.python.org/

06:13:03 [thc]

yes

06:13:09 [thc]

I've wondered about python

06:13:24 [sbp]

CygBot is written in Python, of course

06:13:29 [sbp]

just a few lines of code

06:13:30 [thc]

it always seemed perl was the popular one

06:13:36 [sbp]

$ wc coolbot.py

06:13:37 [CygBot]

> 351 1220 11348 coolbot.py

06:13:37 [CygBot]

> [end]

06:13:46 [sbp]

and most of that is stuff that I didn't even write

06:14:18 [sbp]

$ wc bitiwrote.txt

06:14:19 [CygBot]

> 80 332 3442 bitiwrote.txt

06:14:19 [CygBot]

> [end]

06:14:21 [thc]

borrowed functions?

06:14:32 [thc]

I see

06:14:35 [sbp]

Yep. I used DanC's ASync IRC bot

06:14:41 [thc]

Ahh

06:14:43 [sbp]

the bit I wrote is only 80 lines long

06:14:49 [thc]

I saw

06:14:51 [thc]

yes

06:14:58 [sbp]

.google Connolly site:w3.org Async IRC

06:14:59 [xena]

no results found.

06:15:02 [sbp]

Blargh

06:15:11 [thc]

ESR recommends python as a first or second language

06:15:14 [sbp]

$ rm bitiwrote.txt

06:15:15 [CygBot]

> [end]

06:15:16 [thc]

I believe.

06:15:20 [tav]

.google asynirc

06:15:21 [xena]

no results found.

06:15:26 [sbp]

yep. It's rather good

06:15:26 [tav]

.google asyncirc

06:15:28 [xena]

no results found.

06:15:30 [tav]

hmz

06:15:30 [sbp]

* sbp searches through CVS

06:15:41 [tav]

.google asyncore irc

06:15:43 [xena]

asyncore irc: http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/2000/scribe-bot/ircAsync.py?annotate=1.1&sortby=file

06:15:50 [sbp]

nice one, tav

06:16:05 [sbp]

http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/~checkout~/2000/scribe-bot/ircAsync.py?rev=1.8&content-type=text/plain

06:16:32 [sbp]

1.8 is the version that CygBot is built on top of

06:16:45 [sbp]

really, I should have ircAsync.py as a separate file... oh well

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06:18:44 [sbp]

$ lynx http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/~checkout~/2000/scribe-bot/ircAsync.py?rev=1.8&content-type=text/plain -dump > ircAsync.py

06:18:46 [CygBot]

> content-type=text/plain: not found

06:18:46 [CygBot]

> )07[?47h[1;24r[m[4l[?1h=[H[2J[21B[7mGetting http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/~checkout~/2000/scribe-bot/ircAsync.py?rev=1.[m

06:18:46 [CygBot]

>

06:18:46 [CygBot]

> [24;1H[2J[?47l8

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06:19:00 [sbp]

ugh

06:19:09 [sbp]

8$ cat ircAsync.py

06:19:10 [CygBot]

> cat: ircAsync.py: No such file or directory

06:19:11 [CygBot]

> [end]

06:19:24 [tomc]

what exactly are yuo doing?

06:19:35 [sbp]

trying to save the damn thing

06:19:42 [tomc]

ah

06:20:00 [tomc]

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06:20:23 [sbp]

$ wc ircAsync.py

06:20:24 [CygBot]

> 276 895 8097 ircAsync.py

06:20:25 [CygBot]

> [end]

06:21:10 [thc]

whatis ircAsync.py

06:22:19 [thc]

Oh

06:22:29 [sbp]

yep

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06:23:34 [hazmat]

hi folks

06:23:40 [sbp]

Hi there

06:24:02 [hazmat]

anything exciting happening in the land of sw hackers.

06:25:00 [sbp]

$ wc ircAsync.py

06:25:07 [sbp]

argh

06:25:12 [sbp]

just a bit of bot-play

06:25:13 [thc]

heh

06:26:00 [hazmat]

thc: esr, also recommends lisp for enlightenment.

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06:26:06 [sbp]

$ wc ircAsync.py

06:26:08 [CygBot]

> 273 882 7903 ircAsync.py

06:26:08 [CygBot]

> [end]

06:26:13 [sbp]

$ wc CygBot.py

06:26:15 [CygBot]

> 160 575 5409 CygBot.py

06:26:15 [CygBot]

> [end]

06:26:23 [thc]

I have touched lisp a little already

06:26:24 [sbp]

There, I split it into two files

06:26:38 [sbp]

* sbp read a LISP tutorial the other day

06:26:42 [hazmat]

is ircAsync built around asyncore or just a custom select?

06:26:55 [sbp]

import asyncore, asynchat

06:27:09 [sbp]

it subclasses asynchat.async_chat

06:27:14 [hazmat]

i'd like to pick up haskell

06:28:05 [hazmat]

you guys interested in seeing some demos?

06:28:15 [sbp]

sure

06:29:03 [hazmat]

lucene indexing comp.lang.python http://66.123.57.58:12080/test/comppython/

06:30:04 [sbp]

ugh, make it use GET!

06:31:45 [sbp]

ooh, it's neat, though

06:32:31 [hazmat]

i'll change it to get, its mainly just a demo for a client, that wants to pipe results into vrml.

06:33:20 [sbp]

lol @ "Is learning Python "extraordinary"?"

06:33:31 [sbp]

fair enough

06:33:45 [sbp]

it is good, I'll give you that :-)

06:36:09 [hazmat]

wow marcelo tosatti is 18 years old...

06:38:39 [sbp]

Gotta run

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06:39:07 [thc]

leaving?

06:40:03 [tav]

.weather 55108

06:40:06 [xena]

several possible locations found: Saint Paul (United States), Saint Paul Island Meteorological Aeronautical Presentation System (Canada)

06:40:22 [tav]

.weather saint paul, united states

06:40:25 [xena]

[ Saint Paul, United States ] : light rain; mist | temperature 0° C | humidity 86% | dewpoint -1° C | wind 90 | visibility 2 mile(s) | pressure 996 millibars | conditions overcast

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13:18:33 [BenSw``]

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13:25:20 [BenSw``]

Hello

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13:29:21 [AaronSw]

Lobster Thermidor a Crevette with a mornay sauce served in a

13:29:21 [AaronSw]

Provencale manner with shallots and aubergines garnished with

13:29:22 [AaronSw]

truffle pate, brandy and with a fried egg on top and spam.

13:29:34 [AaronSw]

Lobster Thermidor a Crevette with a mornay sauce served in a Provencale manner with shallots and aubergines garnished with truffle pate, brandy and with a fried egg on top and spam.

13:29:56 [BenSw``]

(in backround) SPAM SPAM SPAM

13:32:50 [AaronSw]

it's much too early for this

13:33:47 [BenSw``]

But I dont like spam

13:34:06 [AaronSw]

Well, why don't you have eggs, spam, sausage and spam?

13:34:26 [BenSw``]

can I have that with out the spam

13:34:32 [AaronSw]

Urrrgh!

13:35:22 [BenSw``]

Well it doesn't have as much spam as egg spam spam spam sausage, fried eggs spam spam spam

13:35:24 [BenSw``]

(in backround) SPAM SPAM SPAM

13:35:28 [BenSw``]

ShutUp!!

13:35:29 [BenSw``]

ShutUp!!

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13:44:25 [BenSw``]

wb tansaku

13:45:51 [AaronSw]

and i'm off

13:46:17 [BenSw``]

bye bye Aaron

14:09:01 [tansaku]

wb?

14:09:08 [tansaku]

ah, welcome back

14:09:17 [tansaku]

I'm clearly not spending enough time on irc

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15:57:33 [BenSw``]

Hello

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17:03:55 [sbp]

lol! Aaron and Ben did the Spam sketch!

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17:14:48 [sbp]

heh, heh: http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/nm/20020116/od/scales_dc_1.html

17:14:51 [sbp]

via. #ia

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17:23:56 [sbp]

HI thc

17:24:00 [sbp]

s/HI/Hi/

17:24:15 [thc]

hello

17:24:35 [thc]

enjoying life?

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17:44:18 [BenSw``]

hello

17:44:32 [BenSw``]

* BenSw`` watches simpsons

17:45:08 [BenSw``]

Im on Hallowen special VII

17:48:12 [AaronSw]

They make you go bluerhuguiher!

17:50:39 [AaronSw]

sbp, Morbus tell you about this? http://www.computerbytesman.com/privacy/pythondirdemo.htm

18:03:20 [BenSw``]

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18:05:18 [AaronSw]

The Evil Geniuses Transport Protocol: If it's written by Evil Geniuses it must be good.

18:06:19 [AaronSw]

I'm glad somebody told me about this: http://yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au/~pfh/circle/

18:17:48 [AaronSw]

Oooh! http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/entertainment/new_media/newsid_1763000/1763836.stm

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18:29:39 [sbp]

* sbp returns

18:29:45 [sbp]

<thc> enjoying life?

18:29:47 [sbp]

yeah, thanks

18:29:52 [AaronSw]

Ooh, Dave Winer pointed to "Tav"!

18:30:01 [sbp]

* sbp looks at http://www.computerbytesman.com/python/pythondirdemo.htm

18:30:08 [sbp]

scripting.com?

18:30:11 [AaronSw]

yeah

18:30:51 [sbp]

oh wow, that Dir demo is neat

18:31:04 [AaronSw]

Heh, it works on your machine?

18:31:09 [sbp]

Yep

18:31:34 [AaronSw]

man... i've been trying to hack your computer for so long and the answer was right under my nose!

18:31:55 [sbp]

Heh, heh

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18:32:17 [AaronSw]

heh: http://scriptingnews.userland.com/backissues/2002/01/16#l960481d83f9d686131bbbc781c2d6ff4

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18:39:58 [sbp]

Blargh, Microsoft Works exports really inconsistent tab-delimited records. My RegExp had more conditions in it than a hair salon

18:40:08 [sbp]

Oh wait - that's *conditioners*

18:41:30 [AaronSw]

lol

18:42:14 [AaronSw]

David McCusker reveals more:

18:42:14 [AaronSw]

"""

18:42:15 [AaronSw]

Sometimes families don't amount to much. Ours certainly didn't.

18:42:15 [AaronSw]

Mine decided I could fend for myself at an early age, and so I did.

18:42:15 [AaronSw]

I probably deserved it, since I was an asshole. (Maybe I still am.)

18:42:16 [AaronSw]

However, I bristle at the idea that maybe I owe someone something.

18:42:17 [AaronSw]

I put myself through school without support, starving on the way.

18:42:19 [AaronSw]

""" - http://www.treedragon.com/ged/map/ti/newJan02.htm#14jan02-loving

18:42:52 [sbp]

Poor David McCusker.

18:44:01 [sbp]

Or "D McC" as I'm thinking of calling him.

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18:44:03 [sbp]

"David McCusker" is almost as long as "William Loughborough".

18:44:39 [AaronSw]

He calls himself Ged or DMc it seems.

18:44:49 [AaronSw]

neato: http://www.bvsystems.com/Products/WLAN/Locust/locust.htm

18:46:25 [sbp]

Wow: wonderfully weird

18:47:33 [AaronSw]

even weirder: http://www.lilbill.net/ [via Boing Boing]

18:55:44 [AaronSw]

lol. Rael imitating a user of speech recognition software in the cubicle next door: "Open this." "Save that." "Deer... No, Dear... No, not Beer... Bloody hell... NO... Erase, erase..."'

18:55:48 [AaronSw]

- http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/a/network/2002/01/15/edlist.html

18:56:42 [tav]

hmz

18:56:46 [tav]

you don't read #plex ?

18:56:54 [tav]

i put it in #plex earlier

18:56:57 [AaronSw]

I did for a while but no one said anything.

18:57:16 [AaronSw]

Rael is a great storyteller. Especially in person.

18:57:19 [sbp]

Gotta run

18:57:29 [AaronSw]

$ u simpsons

18:57:30 [AaronSw]

.time

18:57:31 [xena]

2002/01/16 18:59:09.14622 Universal

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18:59:57 [tav]

well, i'm waiting for a reply from paul

19:03:21 [AaronSw]

tav, you should set up radio-xena that reads every weblog and greps for tav, aaron or plex

19:04:14 [tav]

actually, i'm creating a notify product for maur, that should be pretty easy to extend into that

19:05:06 [tav]

do you think winer would take it bafly if i created a radio-killer?

19:05:13 [tav]

^badly

19:05:24 [AaronSw]

no, he's big about competition

19:05:39 [AaronSw]

he likes it a lot, because it validates what he does.

19:05:50 [AaronSw]

number four referer: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=who%20discovered%20the%20radio&spell=1

19:06:32 [AaronSw]

wow, i'm number two for that.

19:06:35 [tav]

swica

19:06:53 [AaronSw]

eh?

19:07:01 [tav]

and here i was thinking it was tesla

19:07:22 [AaronSw]

i thought it was marconi

19:07:30 [tav]

no, tesla

19:07:41 [BenSw|watchingsimpsons]

Hi tav

19:07:47 [AaronSw]

.google tesla radio invent

19:07:48 [xena]

tesla radio invent: http://www.apc.net/bturner/tesla.htm

19:07:55 [AaronSw]

.google marconi radio invent

19:07:56 [xena]

marconi radio invent: http://www.invent.org/book/book-text/71.html

19:08:05 [tav]

marconi just used his british backed financers to reverse patents on poor tesla

19:09:12 [AaronSw]

"Sorry, your query could not be answered because the Plex is not currently in service."

19:09:34 [tav]

? heh

19:09:58 [AaronSw]

anyone know if there's a dtop, that's like top or ntop except tells me who's hitting the disk?

19:10:14 [tav]

deltab query

19:10:25 [AaronSw]

i get sort of freaked out at the grinding noises.

19:10:56 [AaronSw]

.google ntop

19:10:57 [xena]

ntop: http://www.ntop.org

19:11:14 [BenSw|watchingsimpsons]

hello tav

19:13:36 [AaronSw]

think different: http://www.ntop.org/makelove.gif

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19:25:27 [AaronSw]

Whee! It's really snowing this time.

19:25:38 [AaronSw]

AaronSw has changed the topic to: Winter wonderland has finally arrived.

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20:27:16 [sbp]

could someone put the plex-dev archives up? http://lists.plexdev.org/pipermail/plex-talk/

20:27:26 [sbp]

.http://lists.plexdev.org/pipermail/plex-talk/

20:27:27 [xena]

404 Not Found Not Found The requested URL /pipermail/plex-talk/ was not found on this server. Apache/1.3.22 Server at lists.blazingfast.net Port 80

20:28:19 [sbp]

blargh, I should paste this into #plex

20:33:33 [AaronSw]

[and he does]

20:43:05 [AaronSw]

<xena> <sbp@opn> You should set up a FOAS list

20:43:06 [AaronSw]

<AaronSw> i did, it's called logicerror.com

20:43:06 [AaronSw]

<xena> <sbp@opn> Pff, I still wouldn't make the grade - you'd leave me off just to spite me

20:43:06 [AaronSw]

<AaronSw> heh

20:43:06 [AaronSw]

<xena> <sbp@opn> what@logicerror.com?

20:43:06 [AaronSw]

<AaronSw> no, it's just a website for now

20:43:08 [AaronSw]

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20:43:10 [AaronSw]

<AaronSw> might add email notifications someday

20:43:12 [AaronSw]

<xena> <sbp@opn> Ah. That's not quite a mailing list then

20:43:15 [sbp]

you missed the best bit:-

20:43:17 [sbp]

<sbp> Pff, I'm not on either of the FOXX lists

20:43:17 [sbp]

<xena> <AaronSw@esp> FOXX?

20:43:17 [sbp]

<sbp> Friends Of XX

20:43:29 [AaronSw]

* AaronSw was thinking simpsons pr0n for a sec...

20:43:36 [sbp]

Heh, heh

20:43:39 [AaronSw]

that'd be FOXXX

20:43:45 [sbp]

Heh, yeah

20:44:07 [AaronSw]

who said it needed to be a mailing list?

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20:44:34 [AaronSw]

[we've done more damage]

20:44:37 [sbp]

No one, but that seems to be convention

20:44:55 [AaronSw]

well i wanted to show how much cooler the web can be than a mailing list

20:45:04 [sbp]

it's not much of a FO area if your F's can't contribute

20:45:11 [sbp]

damage: heh

20:45:42 [AaronSw]

sure they can using the (not-yet-implemented) comments feature

20:45:49 [AaronSw]

then i choose the best comments and add them to the page

20:45:53 [AaronSw]

same thing with incoming links

20:46:03 [AaronSw]

I planned a ton of blogspace features...

20:46:13 [AaronSw]

<sigh /> if only someone else would build it for me

20:46:13 [sbp]

Blargh@ NYI

20:46:21 [AaronSw]

want to implement it for me?

20:46:39 [sbp]

Have you ported it to Python yet? No, of course you haven't

20:46:45 [AaronSw]

no wait, don't you dare implement it! go work on your screwly little browser.py

20:46:50 [AaronSw]

[reverse psychology]

20:47:03 [sbp]

Yeah! browser.py is absolutely state-of-the-art. O.K., I will

20:47:20 [sbp]

brb

20:47:45 [AaronSw]

heh

20:52:19 [sbp]

* sbp tries to import/export address book entries into Outlook, but the damn file formats are incompatible... argh!

20:53:38 [AaronSw]

Outlook<-->???

20:54:32 [sbp]

Microsoft Works => Outlook => Outlook, via. various weird hacks

20:54:44 [AaronSw]

Why Outlook to Outlook?

20:54:51 [sbp]

Don't ask :-)

20:54:58 [AaronSw]

too late

20:55:07 [sbp]

Heh, heh

20:55:29 [sbp]

Outlook on two different computers

20:56:50 [AaronSw]

lol! http://nat.org/camera/dsc03697-336x252-border.jpg

20:57:49 [sbp]

Aha! I did it. I had to export to VCard, but it worked

20:59:18 [sbp]

Microsoft Works => Tab separated =Python RegExp=> CSV => Outlook WAB => VCard => Outlook WAB

20:59:48 [sbp]

Man, that was wacky

21:00:22 [AaronSw]

Heh. gnat: "My hobbies include reading, collecting shellfish from the bay where I grew up, pornography, recreational drugs, and piracy. My favourite authors include Douglas Adams, Terry Pratchett, and P.J. O'Rourke. Yes, admitting to liking Terry Pratchett carries the same stigma as being a 14-year-old spotty boy named Nigel with no friends and a silly laugh, but I do not fear your taunts."

21:01:07 [sbp]

Heh, where's that from?

21:01:13 [AaronSw]

- http://www.frii.com/~gnat/

21:01:20 [AaronSw]

gnat is an official W3 Person, BTW.

21:01:36 [sbp]

He loves Perl?

21:01:40 [sbp]

W3 Person?

21:02:14 [sbp]

And he plays the banjo. A banjo playing Perl programmer - he must be great at parties

21:02:16 [AaronSw]

yeah, he's on timbl's old list

21:02:23 [sbp]

cool

21:02:36 [AaronSw]

here's his marriage pics: http://www.funhouse.com/vegas/

21:03:28 [sbp]

* sbp notes that his comment about banjo playing Perl programmers was in jest, especially as I'm learning Perl, and would quite like to learn a bit of banjo playing, although it couldn't tear me away from the guitar

21:03:35 [sbp]

there are only about 3 decent songs in the world that have a banjo on them

21:03:43 [AaronSw]

you're learning Perl?!

21:03:59 [sbp]

well, I read a tutorial, and I can do a bit

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21:05:02 [AaronSw]

that's it! our relationship is OVER!

21:05:28 [sbp]

Mwahahahaha! Did it ever start?

21:05:37 [sbp]

Ooh, that reminds me of a Peanuts strip

21:06:33 [sbp]

8$ cat CygBot.py

21:06:34 [AaronSw]

please return all emails from me, unopened

21:06:36 [CygBot]

> import socket

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> import asyncore, asynchat, urllib, time

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>

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> MyChannel = '#swhack'

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> Port = 6667

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>

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> SPC="\x20"

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> [...]

21:06:59 [AaronSw]

hmm

21:07:01 [AaronSw]

awesome: awesome: http://snoopy.com/comics/peanuts/archive/images/peanuts20024374420116.gif

21:07:02 [sbp]

can I return emails without reading them? anyway, you should have a copy in your sent folder

21:07:31 [AaronSw]

you mean you've been tresspassing on my computer?!

21:07:39 [sbp]

perhaps

21:07:46 [sbp]

what are you gonna do about it, eh?

21:07:58 [sbp]

* sbp catches up on snoopy.com

21:08:31 [AaronSw]

Heh: "Write to me in care of the tower of london!" http://snoopy.com/comics/peanuts/archive/images/peanuts20365615020115.gif

21:09:11 [sbp]

Heh, just read that one

21:11:03 [sbp]

Heh, Snoopy has many occupations/hobbies

21:11:14 [AaronSw]

Dave Winer: "Welcome to the third installment of Going Crazy with Macros, the only tutorial service on the Internet that helps you lose your mind. Today we are going to invent a new Web Service called The XML Coffee Cup. Now if that isn't sheer lunacy, tell me what is!"

21:13:12 [AaronSw]

- http://scriptingnews.userland.com/backissues/2002/01/16#l2dda180429520a08d4b32d16c3f32cdf

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21:14:24 [BenSw|watchingsimpsons]

Hello

21:21:49 [sbp]

* sbp listens to SIBLY (live version)

21:21:53 [sbp]

Hi there Ben

21:22:12 [sbp]

I loved your "Spam, spam, spam" rendition this morning

21:22:50 [BenSw|watchingsimpsons]

Oh no someone actually reads the logs

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21:26:29 [AaronSw]

Heh.

21:26:34 [AaronSw]

That was fun.

21:27:09 [BenSw|watchingsimpsons]

What?

21:28:25 [AaronSw]

Dave Winer: "I already admit to being funny farm material."

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21:31:20 [AaronSw]

lol: http://www.thebrainstrust.co.uk/pretzel.php

21:32:41 [sbp]

heh, heh

21:32:54 [sbp]

Good advice

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?

21:49:49 [deus_x]

O_o

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* SeanP is using irc on CygWin

21:52:34 [SeanP]

For some reason, mIRC and IE have folded

21:52:48 [SeanP]

IRC won't connect at all, and IE refuses to load Googl

21:52:50 [SeanP]

Google

21:53:04 [SeanP]

however, blogspace.com works, and so does IRC through CygWin

21:53:40 [SeanP]

mIRC gives:

21:53:49 [SeanP]

argh, can't paste into this fecking thing

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help?

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21:55:11 [SeanP]

Hmm... that was mIRC, but nothing worked

21:55:30 [AaronSw]

heh

21:55:45 [SeanP]

Argh, and now Frasier's on. I'll shut the computer off and try again in an hour

21:55:50 [AaronSw]

heh!

21:55:51 [SeanP]

this is bizarre

21:55:55 [AaronSw]

yeah, really

21:56:04 [AaronSw]

perhaps it's a frasier-reminder

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21:56:29 [sbp]

Hooray!

21:56:31 [sbp]

Right, gotta run. Man, that was really weird

21:56:51 [AaronSw]

c'ya

21:56:56 [BenSw|watchingsimpsons]

c'ya

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* AaronSw wanders off to have a snowball fight.

22:16:39 [AaronSw]

snow! snow! it's awesome

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22:30:56 [sbp]

snow? great!

22:31:35 [sbp]

* sbp is back on mIRC, has no idea what happened before

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22:37:35 [sbp]

Hi thc

22:38:24 [thc]

hello (again)

22:38:34 [sbp]

Wow, Bert Jansch was only 19 when he recorded his first album

22:40:28 [thc]

I feel I should know of him

22:41:37 [sbp]

Heh, heh, stereotypeorama: http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/sci/tech/newsid_1754000/1754818.stm

22:41:48 [sbp]

Bert Jansch: excellet folk guitarist

22:41:56 [sbp]

s/excellet/excellent/

22:42:11 [thc]

yes, I just glanced at a brief biography

22:42:16 [sbp]

""""A lot of women want permission to buy the cute version of something," said Ms France."""

22:42:40 [sbp]

@ http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/sci/tech/newsid_1754000/1754818.stm

22:42:52 [chumpster]

B: http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/sci/tech/newsid_1754000/1754818.stm from sbp

22:42:56 [sbp]

B:|Gadget makers target women

22:42:58 [chumpster]

titled item B

22:43:35 [sbp]

B::Shield your sensibilities, it's stereoptype time.

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22:43:49 [sbp]

oh, you big pile-o'-crap

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22:44:56 [sbp]

ooh, I think it's broken

22:45:02 [sbp]

someone borked it!

22:45:05 [sbp]

B::

22:45:27 [sbp]

sbp has changed the topic to: Someone borked the Weblog!

22:45:43 [sbp]

.http://blogspace.com/swhack/weblog/

22:45:44 [xena]

Swhack Weblog: Someone borked the Weblog!Swhack WeblogSomeone borked the Weblog! Last update: 2002-01-16 22:45 UTCNearby: RSS/RDF/XML versionArchives: 2001, 2002 posted by AaronSw at 2002-01-16 22:43 (permalink) Swhack? No, we're not here to give j00 c00l crackz. 'Swhack!' is the sound made when you hit someone with a clue-by-four, likely some l33t d00d. This is a weblog run by the Swhack

22:45:45 [xena]

Cabal. Who are they? Let's just say There Is No Global RDF Conspiracy. Data: AaronSw, bernstein, blanu, bricklin, chris, danbri, doc, edd and his PANTS, glenn, jorn, kenm's PRTnews, McC, Morbus, rael, rdfig, sbp, tansaku, tav, Uncle Gravy, whump, wmf, Zooko. Metadata: Blogdex, Crit, Social Network (from Blogdex), Google Backlinks, Validator. Aaron Swartz and Sean B. PalmerRun by the Daily Chump bot

22:45:46 [xena]

.. a very large amount of text.

22:48:24 [thc]

"If it has to do with communication, if it has to do with instant messaging, wireless, anything like that, girls know all about it"

22:48:49 [sbp]

Aaron, fix the bot!

22:49:11 [thc]

heh

22:49:15 [sbp]

my favourite bit: "The minute I hear a word like 'sub-woofer', you've lost me," she said. "I want as little information as possible to make an intelligence purchase."

22:49:33 [sbp]

an intelligence purchase? Are you buying for the millitary?

22:50:00 [thc]

Oh! My god I didn't notice that

22:50:15 [sbp]

It's classy. I wanna chump it! Damn bot

22:50:36 [thc]

I must be tired :)

22:50:43 [sbp]

* sbp plays Carole King, Up On The Roof

22:57:27 [sbp]

* sbp plays some Nina Simone

22:58:49 [sbp]

heh: """Sean just called. So I am happy. Yay. No, really, I know that sounded half-assed, but I am. Heh. So today was nice. I'm really getting into that "fuck that like a ... whore", ... being replaced with whatever I feel like.""" - http://www.fuh-q.com/laura/

22:59:25 [sbp]

* sbp plays John Lee Hooker - Hobo Blues

23:00:17 [AaronSw]

man, that was fun

23:00:17 [BenSw|watchingsimpsons]

.htttp://rangersofdereth.dyndns.org/

23:00:28 [BenSw|watchingsimpsons]

.htttp://rangersofdereth.dyndns.org/

23:00:35 [BenSw|watchingsimpsons]

g

23:01:32 [AaronSw]

B::

23:01:37 [sbp]

there's only two t's in HTTP

23:01:50 [BenSw|watchingsimpsons]

whoops

23:01:52 [BenSw|watchingsimpsons]

lol

23:01:56 [AaronSw]

wow, it's screwed.

23:01:57 [BenSw|watchingsimpsons]

.http://rangersofdereth.dyndns.org/

23:01:58 [xena]

The Rangers of Dereth - WintersEbb Current News Posted on Wed, January 16th 12:44 PM by ced: Van does it again! Grats to Van on winning the GSA in the recent Scavenger Hunt. A --HUGE-- Thankyou to Ugly Mofo and Alseyn T\'seif for organizing the event. Next Scavenger Hunt Prize will be a Diamond Shield. Posted on Sun, January 13th 12:22 PM by ced: Vanyel Kills Lady Aerfalle!!! The Rangers

23:02:00 [xena]

first ever Aerlinthe Quest lead by ourselves. Myself, Elanor and Vanyel managed the whole trip and it was a blast! Posted on Mon, November 26th 7:20 AM by ced: Rescue Squad - Spaces open for players of ALL levels. Contact Hiute in game. He will take your name/Player type and level down. Questions, comments, death threats? - send them to Webmistress Stacy

23:02:15 [sbp]

Argh, debork it!

23:02:48 [BenSw|watchingsimpsons]

Homer: Baby on Board something something something

23:03:10 [AaronSw]

BLURB:Web Graffiti?

23:03:13 [chumpster]

B: Web Graffiti? from AaronSw

23:03:25 [AaronSw]

you can't mess with it when it's broken.

23:03:27 [AaronSw]

B::I went to [download QuickTime|http://www.apple.com/quicktime/download/] and I found some strange sidebars.

23:03:30 [sbp]

Homer: Baby on Board, something, something, Burt Ward

23:03:37 [chumpster]

commented item B

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23:04:04 [sbp]

Argh. You borked it again!

23:04:34 [sbp]

* sbp plays Billie Holliday - On The Sunny Side Of The Street

23:04:38 [AaronSw]

i did it on purpose this time

23:04:42 [AaronSw]

i'm fixing it, you borkers

23:04:43 [sbp]

s/Holliday/Holiday/

23:04:49 [sbp]

Heh, heh

23:05:03 [sbp]

heh, love it: <!DOCTYPE churn>

23:05:07 [sbp]

<churn>

23:05:07 [sbp]

<last-updated value="1011222215.833035">2002-01-16 23:03</last-updated>

23:05:07 [sbp]

<itemcount value="2" />

23:05:07 [sbp]

<topic>Someone borked the Weblog!</topic>

23:05:07 [sbp]

<link type="blurb">

23:05:08 [sbp]

<time value="1011222190.031179">2002-01-16 23:03</time>

23:05:08 [BenSw|watchingsimpsons]

* BenSw|watchingsimpsons watches Homers Barbershop quartet

23:05:10 [sbp]

<nick>AaronSw</nick>

23:05:12 [sbp]

<title>Web Graffiti?</title>

23:05:14 [sbp]

<comment nick="AaronSw">I went to <a href="http://www.apple.com/quicktime/download/">download QuickTime</a> and I found some strange sidebars.</comment>

23:05:17 [sbp]

</link>

23:05:19 [sbp]

<link type="blurb">

23:05:21 [sbp]

<time value="1011221034.747875">2002-01-16 22:43</time>

23:05:23 [sbp]

<nick>AaronSw</nick>

23:05:25 [sbp]

</link>

23:05:27 [sbp]

</churn>

23:05:29 [sbp]

argh

23:05:30 [AaronSw]

i know what it is now, geez

23:05:31 [sbp]

wow, it didn't kick me for flooding. I'm impressed

23:06:27 [AaronSw]

anyone know the python time for 2002-01-16 03:12:05?

23:06:47 [sbp]

Wha?

23:06:51 [AaronSw]

"python time" being something like 1011221034.747875

23:07:10 [sbp]

No idea

23:07:22 [sbp]

.py pythontime('2002-01-16 03:12:05')

23:07:23 [xena]

NameError: name 'pythontime' is not defined

23:07:31 [sbp]

heh, heh

23:08:24 [BenSw|watchingsimpsons]

Bart: you where idiots like the beatles and said that you were bigger than jesus

23:09:21 [BenSw|watchingsimpsons]

Number 8 *burp* Number 8 *burp* Number 8 *burp* Number 8 *burp*

23:09:58 [sbp]

heh, that bit kicks-ass

23:11:27 [BenSw|watchingsimpsons]

lol the Be-sharps album is like meet the beatles, on the front, and sgt peppers on the back

23:11:41 [BenSw|watchingsimpsons]

lol its a copy of the beatles

23:12:17 [sbp]

Have you not seen that one before?

23:12:24 [BenSw|watchingsimpsons]

actually no

23:12:36 [BenSw|watchingsimpsons]

seen most of them though

23:13:21 [tav]

.unixtime

23:13:21 [xena]

1011222921.92

23:13:43 [BenSw|watchingsimpsons]

.goggle be sharps

23:14:03 [BenSw|watchingsimpsons]

.google be sharps

23:14:04 [xena]

be sharps: http://home.vicnet.net.au/~fitshop/welcome.html

23:14:16 [BenSw|watchingsimpsons]

ach im mispelling today

23:17:43 [BenSw|watchingsimpsons]

Ralph:Mrs. Hoover, I glued my head to my shoulder

23:18:31 [sbp]

Aaron? Have you fixed the bot?

23:18:36 [AaronSw]

almost

23:18:46 [sbp]

Cool

23:19:23 [sbp]

and back in Primitive Pattern Land...

23:19:36 [sbp]

.belikesbp

23:19:41 [CygBot]

Hmm... I wonder what other uses of the Semantic Web there are?

23:19:44 [AaronSw]

ok, it's fixed.

23:19:58 [AaronSw]

chumpster will return in a moment, in a meantime...

23:19:59 [sbp]

thanks

23:20:09 [AaronSw]

make sure you don't repeat anything: http://blogspace.com/swhack/weblog/

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23:20:26 [AaronSw]

hmzigly?!

23:20:40 [sbp]

don't repeat anything?

23:20:48 [sbp]

how so?

23:21:02 [sbp]

B::

23:21:02 [chumpster]

blurb

23:21:03 [chumpster]

Gadget makers target women

23:21:04 [chumpster]

(sbp) Shield your sensibilities, it's stereoptype time.

23:21:08 [AaronSw]

like that.

23:21:57 [sbp]

.http://blogspace.com/swhack/weblog/

23:21:59 [xena]

2002-01-16 23:03 Someone borked the Weblog! 2002-01-16 22:42 http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/sci/tech/newsid_1754000/1754818.stm sbp Gadget makers target women Shield your sensibilities, it's stereoptype time. 2002-01-16 03:12 AaronSw Web Graffiti? I went to download QuickTime and I found some strange sidebars. Mac's Rule!, Smiley Face and Macs are cool.

23:22:03 [AaronSw]

odd

23:22:11 [AaronSw]

can you please stop that.

23:22:46 [sbp]

get xena to trim responses

23:22:56 [AaronSw]

to what?

23:23:09 [sbp]

B::"A lot of women want permission to buy the cute version of something," said Ms France."

23:23:10 [chumpster]

commented item B

23:23:21 [sbp]

To a length that doesn't make you whinge

23:23:29 [AaronSw]

that's not possible

23:23:42 [thc]

nice use of quotes :-)

23:23:44 [sbp]

B::My favourite bit: "The minute I hear a word like 'sub-woofer', you've lost me," she said. "I want as little information as possible to make an intelligence purchase."

23:23:45 [chumpster]

commented item B

23:23:55 [sbp]

B::An intelligence purchase? Is she buying for the millitary?

23:23:59 [chumpster]

commented item B

23:24:48 [sbp]

I wanted to point out that it's still broken - I get the <!DOCTYPE churn> version

23:24:55 [AaronSw]

i knew that.

23:25:09 [AaronSw]

you could have just said, instead of spewing

23:25:19 [sbp]

I like to spew

23:26:11 [sbp]

what's the point of having the .URI function? You may as well can it

23:26:42 [AaronSw]

it has its uses, you're just an abuser.

23:26:47 [AaronSw]

i should probably turn it off for you.

23:26:57 [sbp]

it's funny, because when I bring in bots that spew things all over the channel, they get banned

23:27:06 [sbp]

do so

23:27:06 [AaronSw]

well, you know why?

23:27:21 [sbp]

perhaps I can guess

23:27:30 [AaronSw]

go on

23:28:31 [AaronSw]

it's becaus you're a no good stinky smelly potato-spitting, spweing, spanking, frying, fronking, frinking, throwing, banging, breaking, borking, blogging, botanical, breaking, profanic, piece of podsnop!

23:28:47 [AaronSw]

* AaronSw bows. The curtain falls.

23:29:07 [sbp]

hooray, I've bought the word "borking" into regular circulation

23:29:19 [sbp]

.google borking

23:29:21 [xena]

borking: http://www.prospect.org/print/V12/12/kennedy-r.html

23:29:44 [BenSw|watchingsimpsons]

.acronym atm

23:29:45 [xena]

atm: Asynchronous Transfer Mode (broadband switching and transmission technology), Automated Teller Machine, Able Toast Master (now Advanced Toastmaster), Abstinence 'Till Marriage, Acetone Toluene Methanol, Addicted To Music, Adobe Type Manager, Advanced TEMPEST Microcomputer, Advanced Test Module, Advanced Testing Mode, Advanced Toastmaster (formerly Able Toastmaster), Advanced Traffic Mapping,

23:29:47 [xena]

Advanced Trauma Management, Aerosol Trajectory Model, Air Target Materials, Air Targeting Mode (military radar), Air Traffic Management, Air Turbine Motor, Airborne Thematic Mapper, Aircrew Training Manual

23:29:53 [sbp]

WTG @ fronking

23:30:03 [AaronSw]

.acronym wtg

23:30:05 [xena]

wtg: Way To Go, Wind Turbine Generator

23:30:52 [sbp]

ATM is usually either "At the moment" or "Automatic telling machine" depending on context

23:30:57 [BenSw|watchingsimpsons]

.acronym sw

23:30:59 [xena]

sw: (USN Rating) Steelworker, Salt Water, Sand Wedge (Golf), Sea Watch/Water, Semantic Web, Server Wallet, Severe Weathering, Shareware, Shipboard Weapon, Short Wave, Short Wave (see HF), Shotgun Wedding, Sidewinder, Signals Warfare, Slepian-Wolf (source network), Small World, Social Worker, Socialist Worker, Socialist Worker's Party (also seen as SWP), Software

23:31:07 [sbp]

WTG == Wind Turbine Generator

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23:31:35 [BenSw|watchingsimpsons]

(shocke) no Aaron Swartz

23:31:54 [BenSw|watchingsimpsons]

s/shocke/shocked/

23:32:21 [sbp]

that'd be AS

23:32:23 [AaronSw]

huh?

23:32:36 [BenSw|watchingsimpsons]

for Swartz

23:32:37 [sbp]

Ooh, what's Aaron's middle name?

23:32:42 [BenSw|watchingsimpsons]

nm

23:32:43 [AaronSw]

don't tell him!

23:32:48 [BenSw|watchingsimpsons]

nm

23:32:54 [sbp]

Mwahahaha!

23:33:08 [BenSw|watchingsimpsons]

I WONT TELL YOU MUAHAHAHAHA

23:33:23 [BenSw|watchingsimpsons]

I have no idea why I just said that

23:34:05 [sbp]

* sbp neither, but we have to behave now that Aaron is bearing down on us with his OP

23:34:35 [sbp]

Argh!

23:34:44 [AaronSw]

they do the dirty work

23:34:52 [BenSw|watchingsimpsons]

* BenSw|watchingsimpsons woders why is he oping his bots

23:35:02 [sbp]

* sbp too

23:35:09 [sbp]

<sbp> danja: you look spookily like David Baddiel

23:35:12 [sbp]

<dajobe> lol

23:35:15 [sbp]

<danja> ouch2!

23:35:38 [sbp]

- #rdfig

23:35:48 [AaronSw]

pic of danja?

23:35:54 [BenSw|watchingsimpsons]

its hillel

23:36:04 [AaronSw]

what is?

23:36:33 [BenSw|watchingsimpsons]

oops, wrong channel

23:37:16 [sbp]

<dajobe> that comment deservers this: http://lookinside-images.amazon.com/Qffs+v35leq9SS0/6r+OjznKfgIqPLiK2XjSMN2zXl517YCu4/rwBtKGR03ERCKDvTLXcmBZwCg=

23:37:17 [sbp]

<dajobe> 2nd from left on top row, right?

23:37:25 [sbp]

[...]

23:37:25 [sbp]

<danja> for the record : http://www.isacat.net/misc/images/danny1.gif

23:37:57 [AaronSw]

heh

23:40:16 [BenSw|watchingsimpsons]

Hey sbp whats the line about the impsons family?

23:44:32 [sbp]

.google "Impson family" site:snpp.com

23:44:33 [xena]

"Impson family" site:snpp.com: http://www.snpp.com/episodes/3F20.html

23:45:04 [sbp]

$ lynx http://www.snpp.com/episodes/3F20.txt -dump | grep "Impson family" -A 2

23:45:21 [CygBot]

> [end]

23:45:31 [sbp]

Pff

23:45:32 [AaronSw]

heh

23:45:42 [sbp]

$ lynx http://www.snpp.com/episodes/3F20.html -dump | grep "Impson family" -A 2

23:45:43 [AaronSw]

$ lynx http://www.snpp.com/episodes/3F20.txt -dump | grep -i "Impson family" -A 2

23:45:54 [sbp]

.txt doesn't exist

23:45:58 [AaronSw]

pff

23:46:21 [CygBot]

> = There was no writing on the mailbox until Homer said "Impson family."

23:46:23 [CygBot]

> {mar}

23:46:23 [CygBot]

>

23:46:23 [CygBot]

> [end]

23:46:25 [CygBot]

Command "lynx http://www.snpp.com/episodes/3F20.txt -dump | grep -i "Impson family" -A 2" has been disabled

23:46:43 [BenSw|watchingsimpsons]

$ lynx http://rangersofdereth.dyndns.org

23:46:46 [sbp]

Hmm... that was a disappointment

23:46:51 [CygBot]

Command "lynx http://rangersofdereth.dyndns.org" has been disabled

23:47:19 [BenSw|watchingsimpsons]

$ lynx http://rangersofdereth.dyndns.org

23:47:33 [AaronSw]

BenSw|watchingsimpsons, get a {life, browser}

23:47:51 [sbp]

Homer: Uh oh, looks like a spot of bother for the [leans forwards] "Impson" family

23:48:23 [AaronSw]

it's funny because he said "spot of bother"

23:48:35 [AaronSw]

ok, looks like the weblog is fixed

23:50:10 [sbp]

Good

23:50:14 [sbp]

Well done

23:50:38 [sbp]

except that the link doesn't work

23:50:51 [AaronSw]

hmm

23:51:13 [sbp]

can you fix that, or should I do B::[http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/sci/tech/newsid_1754000/1754818.stm|blargh] ?

23:51:20 [AaronSw]

i'll fix it in a sec

23:51:29 [sbp]

O.K.

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23:53:12 [sbp]

ah, Homer actually says...

23:53:26 [sbp]

Homer: Heh, heh: looks like bad news for the "Impson" family

23:53:57 [sbp]

Spot of bother was my own idiomatization

23:54:43 [sbp]

Homer: I apologize for misleading you and urge

23:54:46 [sbp]

you to watch as many FOX shows as possible.

23:55:54 [sbp]

Hmm... they had the one where the dog gets ill, and the Bible stories one today

23:55:59 [sbp]

Homer: Down in front!

23:56:02 [chumpster]

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23:56:04 [sbp]

ooh, and

23:56:22 [sbp]

Homer: You don't know your sister's birthday? What kinda brother are you?

23:56:27 [AaronSw]

B::

23:56:27 [chumpster]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/sci/tech/newsid_1754000/1754818.stm

23:56:28 [chumpster]

Gadget makers target women

23:56:29 [chumpster]

(sbp) Shield your sensibilities, it's stereoptype time.

23:56:30 [chumpster]

(sbp) "A lot of women want permission to buy the cute version of something," said Ms France."

23:56:31 [chumpster]

(sbp) My favourite bit: "The minute I hear a word like 'sub-woofer', you've lost me," she said. "I want as little information as possible to make an intelligence purchase."

23:56:32 [chumpster]

(sbp) An intelligence purchase? Is she buying for the millitary?

23:56:54 [sbp]

Thanks

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23:57:46 [sbp]

"I'm just a child of nature. I'm one of nature's childeren"

23:57:59 [sbp]

Good song - evolved into Jealous Guy

23:58:22 [sbp]

sbp has changed the topic to: Someone de-borked the Weblog!