IRC log of swhack on 2001-11-27

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00:00:02 [AaronSw]
webizingPython?
00:00:05 [GabeW]
yah
00:00:09 [AaronSw]
I didn't realize it was related at all
00:00:22 [AaronSw]
* AaronSw twists his head a bit
00:00:35 [GabeW]
ok, maybe I'm reading tooo too fast
00:00:38 [AaronSw]
I guess it's sorta related... but not really.
00:00:54 [Morbus]
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00:01:08 [GabeW]
well, bobo binds urls to methods (so you can invoke a method via a url)
00:01:24 [AaronSw]
yeah, that's true... but it's not really what I was thinking of.
00:01:25 [GabeW]
but that's not what you are talkig bout
00:01:30 [GabeW]
I'm reading now
00:01:41 [Morbus]
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00:01:45 [GabeW]
ah - making python code referenceable via URIs
00:01:45 [bob2]
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00:01:49 [GabeW]
bob!
00:01:56 [AaronSw]
everyone say hi to bob2
00:01:59 [AaronSw]
bob2: say hi to everyone
00:02:00 [bob2]
No group 2
00:02:11 [AaronSw]
bob2: have a really happy thanksgiving
00:02:12 [bob2]
No group 2
00:02:16 [tansaku]
ooops
00:02:17 [GabeW]
bob2: whats your name?
00:02:18 [bob2]
No group 2
00:02:18 [bob2]
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00:02:21 [AaronSw]
lol
00:02:23 [Morbus]
bah. stupid computer
00:02:43 [sbp]
heh, heh
00:02:54 [AaronSw]
AaronSw has changed the topic to: LET'S DO THE TIME WARP AGAIN!
00:02:59 [sbp]
it got more welcomes than you, Morbus
00:03:02 [tansaku]
let's try that again
00:03:05 [Morbus]
who ohoo!
00:03:07 [Morbus]
huh?
00:03:46 [tansaku]
okay that's better
00:03:56 [bob2]
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00:04:01 [tansaku]
bob2 : hi
00:04:07 [tansaku]
bob2: hi
00:04:07 [bob2]
What precisely do you mean by 'hi'
00:04:11 [AaronSw]
Heh.
00:04:16 [tansaku]
bob2: difficult to say
00:04:16 [bob2]
difficult to say
00:04:18 [AaronSw]
bob2: have a really happy thanksgiving
00:04:19 [bob2]
thankyou, have a good one too
00:04:27 [AaronSw]
bob2: food is good
00:04:28 [bob2]
food is good
00:04:40 [sbp]
bob2: can you do laundry?
00:04:40 [bob2]
What precisely do you mean by 'can you do laundryH'
00:04:40 [GabeW]
bob2: poo opo
00:04:41 [bob2]
That's easy for you to say
00:05:38 [sbp]
I mean, find a washing machine, shove some clothes in it (and some of that cleaning junk), and turn it on. Remove the clothes as necessary
00:05:44 [tansaku]
he's got basic single variable handling now, so he can say things like "what do you mean by X" in response to X, but the java regexp is fucked and I can't do some of the more advanced things I wanted, damn.
00:05:57 [sbp]
er, that is...
00:06:03 [sbp]
bob2: I mean, find a washing machine, shove some clothes in it (and some of that cleaning junk), and turn it on. Remove the clothes as necessary
00:06:04 [bob2]
That's easy for you to say
00:06:16 [sbp]
heh, heh: Java RegExp. I laugh
00:06:21 [tansaku]
bob2: I'm having a bad hair day
00:06:21 [bob2]
sucks to be you
00:06:23 [sbp]
What package are you using?
00:06:29 [AaronSw]
bob2: .rule <.*sbp.*> --> "i know sbp"
00:06:30 [bob2]
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00:06:34 [AaronSw]
Hmm.
00:06:42 [sbp]
heh, heh
00:06:48 [sbp]
it didn't like that...
00:06:48 [tansaku]
Aaron: you needed quotes round the left hand side of the rule ....
00:06:54 [tansaku]
* tansaku goes to fix bob2
00:06:57 [AaronSw]
Oops.
00:07:03 [GabeW]
whats bob2 do?
00:07:12 [tansaku]
my bad - I mean he should have better error handling
00:07:25 [GabeW]
hey, AaronSw - initially, the webizing python sounds interesting
00:07:35 [tansaku]
sbp: it's all java - java1.4beta3 for the regexp
00:07:40 [AaronSw]
GabeW, thanks
00:07:46 [AaronSw]
worth posting to python-dev, you think?
00:07:50 [tansaku]
GabeW: you can teach him rules and then he'll use them in speech
00:07:52 [GabeW]
so, is it grabbing bytecode?
00:07:56 [bob2]
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00:07:58 [GabeW]
tansaku - ooh
00:08:03 [AaronSw]
GabeW, me or bob2?
00:08:13 [GabeW]
AaronSw - you (but that would be cool for a bot)
00:08:18 [AaronSw]
yeah
00:08:32 [GabeW]
well, or source, I guess it doesn't matter
00:08:32 [tansaku]
bob2: .rule "<.*sbp.*>" --> "i know sbp"
00:08:32 [bob2]
yum
00:08:38 [AaronSw]
bob2: "<.*>sbp<.*>" --> "i know that shady character. stay away from him"
00:08:38 [bob2]
i know sbp
00:08:45 [AaronSw]
bob2: .rule "<.*>sbp<.*>" --> "i know that shady character. stay away from him"
00:08:45 [bob2]
yum
00:08:53 [AaronSw]
bob2: say sbp
00:08:54 [bob2]
i know that shady character. stay away from him
00:09:44 [tansaku]
bob2: what do you think of sbp?
00:09:44 [bob2]
i know that shady character. stay away from him
00:09:54 [Morbus]
bob2: what about morbus?
00:09:55 [bob2]
what about morbusH
00:10:05 [Morbus]
um <g>
00:10:32 [GabeW]
aaronsw- how would you propose implementing webizing python
00:10:35 [sbp]
you mean: yum :-)
00:10:42 [sbp]
bob2: botsnack
00:10:42 [bob2]
yum!
00:10:46 [AaronSw]
GabeW, what part?
00:10:59 [GabeW]
well, say "import <URI>"
00:11:25 [AaronSw]
Well, it'd go to that URI and get back some Python code, hash it and see if it trusts it.
00:11:31 [tansaku]
bob2: .rule "think<.*>morbus" --> "he's weird|morbus rocks my world|morbus who?"
00:11:32 [bob2]
yum
00:11:36 [GabeW]
but as patches to CPython?
00:11:40 [AaronSw]
yeah
00:11:43 [tansaku]
bob2: what do you think about morbus?
00:11:43 [bob2]
what do you think about morbusH
00:11:59 [tansaku]
bob2:do you think about morbus?
00:11:59 [bob2]
he's weird
00:12:06 [Morbus]
i am not!
00:12:07 [AaronSw]
you guys mind taking bob2 to #decent?
00:12:09 [Morbus]
i'm home cooking.
00:12:16 [sbp]
bob2: do you think about Morbus all the time?
00:12:16 [bob2]
.time
00:12:17 [xena]
2001/11/27 00:13:49.5081 Universal
00:12:23 [Morbus]
heh
00:12:29 [tansaku]
AaronSw: I was just about to do that join bob2 in #Decent
00:12:30 [sbp]
lol
00:12:41 [bob2]
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00:12:43 [sbp]
bob2: do you think about Morbus always?
00:18:30 [AaronSw]
sbp, on tav's suggestion I upped the milestones for the plex
00:18:44 [AaronSw]
1.CodeCon - February 15-17, 2002
00:18:45 [AaronSw]
We should have a working network which can support some simple queries. We should also have some client-side inferencing working.
00:18:45 [AaronSw]
2.O'Reilly Emerging Technology Conference - April 22-25, 2002
00:18:45 [AaronSw]
We should have network-based inferencing and more advanced Goynifiad queries.
00:18:52 [tav`]
why is sbp not in fucking #plex?
00:19:06 [AaronSw]
because he's _____ lazy
00:19:07 [sbp]
I didn't know that #plex could fuck
00:19:19 [sbp]
yeah, I'm really underscore lazy
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00:23:40 [sbp]
* sbp finds it interesting how Aaron avoids saying "fuck" unless quoting
00:23:52 [Morbus]
i avoid saying marmalade.
00:24:01 [AaronSw]
You said it, Morbus!
00:24:12 [AaronSw]
You lose 3 points.
00:24:23 [sbp]
He typed it, that's allowed
00:24:30 [sbp]
s/saying/typing/
00:36:49 [sbp]
Homer: Homer, Homer Simpson, he's the greatest guy in history. From the town of Springfield, he's about to hit a chestnut tree.... aaaaaargh!
00:37:41 [Morbus]
hey, sbp, the latest toyfare has an article on every saying possible in all the released simpson playset.s.
00:38:01 [sbp]
pardon?
00:38:10 [Morbus]
heh. nevermind.
00:39:13 [sbp]
sbp has changed the topic to: Homer: Where people throw ducks at balloons, and nothing's the way it seems
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00:46:50 [AaronSw]
lol: http://www.userfriendly.org/cartoons/archives/01nov/xuf003691.gif
00:48:59 [tansaku]
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00:49:07 [sbp]
heh, heh
00:51:31 [AaronSw]
dinner, c'ya
00:52:02 [tansaku]
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00:56:14 [Morbus]
Morbus has quit (Ping timeout: 181 seconds)
00:59:07 [sbp]
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01:00:16 [sbp]
Homer: Stupid gravity
01:08:35 [AaronSw]
heh
01:08:41 [Morbus]
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01:10:55 [Morbus]
ping
01:11:01 [sbp]
Hi Morbus
01:11:13 [Morbus]
hmf.
01:11:34 [AaronSw]
hi
01:12:44 [Morbus]
bugger
01:12:47 [Morbus]
ah well.
01:12:58 [sbp]
what's up?
01:13:18 [Morbus]
can't connect to this irc network.
01:13:22 [Morbus]
no big deal.
01:13:35 [sbp]
Erm... you're on it
01:13:35 [AaronSw]
you seem to have connected just fine
01:13:42 [Morbus]
not this one, that one ;)
01:14:02 [Morbus]
when you ask a question, make sure you're starign at the same window i am, ok? ;)
01:14:47 [AaronSw]
which one?
01:14:55 [Morbus]
its a private one.
01:14:58 [Morbus]
from good friends.
01:15:01 [AaronSw]
pah
01:15:01 [Morbus]
long time friends.
01:15:11 [AaronSw]
see, if it wasn't private, then there wouldn't be this prob
01:15:47 [sbp]
yeah
01:16:34 [AaronSw]
ok, i'm going to step out for a bit. be back later
01:16:44 [sbp]
c'ya
01:18:50 [sbp]
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01:20:38 [sbp]
there, that's better
01:21:12 [sbp]
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01:25:58 [Morbus]
hey sbp
01:26:06 [sbp]
hi there
01:26:17 [Morbus]
i smell bad.
01:26:55 [sbp]
you should stop washing yourself in mud and dogshit. I keep telling you
01:27:15 [Morbus]
yeah, but i like the sounds they make. water just doesn't have that squish, i'm tellin ya.
01:27:21 [sbp]
but do you listen? no, you never do. I don't know why I bother...
01:27:41 [sbp]
put some gelatin in the water
01:27:51 [Morbus]
you bother because you love me, and... gulp... i love you!
01:27:54 [sbp]
washing in falvourless jelly should be alright
01:28:07 [sbp]
not me, him!
01:29:23 [Morbus]
almost done my email. sigh.
01:29:51 [sbp]
how many do you have left?
01:30:08 [Morbus]
22
01:30:22 [Morbus]
been working on them for 2 1/2 hours.
01:30:30 [sbp]
cool
01:30:59 [Morbus]
and i get another five every time i check. bah.
01:31:46 [sbp]
that's quite annoying when that happens... you answer one, and get another three in the same time... lovely
01:34:00 [sbp]
heh: ""Symposium" is the Greek term for a drinking-party." - http://www.utm.edu/research/iep/s/symposiu.htm
01:35:37 [sbp]
Morby, what do you have as your homepage?
01:35:44 [Morbus]
nothing.
01:35:59 [Morbus]
i'm not a fan of homepages.
01:36:18 [sbp]
Hmm... I use Google
01:36:32 [sbp]
I find it's the page I'm most likely to want to go to when I open a new window :-)
01:36:48 [Morbus]
heh
01:38:38 [deltab]
my usual browser doesn't have a concept of a homepage, but I often go to Google as the unremovable first entry in the history stack :-)
01:39:20 [deltab]
wonders whether there was any point in saying that
01:39:38 [Morbus]
heh. you just wanted to feel special.
01:40:33 [sbp]
heh, heh!: http://www.ananova.com/news/story/sm_458773.html?menu=news.quirkies
01:40:34 [deltab]
I just woke up from a weird dream. Perhaps that has something to do with it.
01:40:57 [tansaku]
tansaku is now known as tansaku_meeting
01:40:58 [sbp]
you dreamed you weren't a sysadmin anymore, and that you were happy?
01:41:32 [GabeW]
see ya's l8r
01:41:56 [deltab]
heh, no
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01:44:09 [sbp]
weird, it looks like it's driving down with rain outside from one angle, but from another, it doesn't
01:45:58 [deltab]
sounds vaguely thixotropic
01:49:41 [Morbus]
brb
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01:52:54 [sbp]
thixotropic?
01:53:38 [deltab]
but of course it isn't; that'd be silly
01:54:25 [sbp]
yes, rather
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01:57:55 [Morbus]
thanks, sbp. i love you too. bastard.
01:58:42 [sbp]
heh, heh!
01:59:47 [sbp]
ah, a new email in my inbox... could it be?
02:00:03 [sbp]
yes, it is!
02:00:46 [sbp]
well, it wouldn't have been a real accomplishment had you not had to deal with one of my rants too
02:01:44 [tav`]
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02:02:59 [Morbus]
sigh. i've sent 12 emails since we chatted, and i still have 20 to go.
02:03:09 [Morbus]
that is not a very good ratio.
02:03:41 [tav`]
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02:05:01 [sbp]
heh, especially as you had 22 to answer
02:05:56 [tav`]
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02:06:04 [sbp]
has anyone everr bought you something off your wish list? has some sick depraved weirdo actually bought you something? has some utterly insance, twisted, contorted, demented, tortured, smegged up fool...
02:06:11 [Morbus]
happily, most of the remaining stuff is mailing list stuff.
02:06:22 [Morbus]
yeah, sbp, i've gotten three books from two people off my list.
02:06:47 [Morbus]
see, only 14 left now.
02:06:48 [sbp]
* sbp decides to get a wish list... :-)
02:06:52 [Morbus]
heh.
02:06:58 [Morbus]
you should buy something off mine. come on.
02:07:00 [Morbus]
wink, wink.
02:07:25 [sbp]
if I have so little money that I need to create a wish list...
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02:07:48 [sbp]
of course, we could do a swap deal. I'll buy something from yours if you buy something from mine :-)
02:08:06 [sbp]
but then we may as well just buy a book that we like each, and be done with it
02:08:06 [Morbus]
heh./
02:08:28 [sbp]
in fact, we may as well just forget it. Just forget that this weird little conversation ever took place
02:08:32 [sbp]
Hi Morbus
02:08:43 [sbp]
have you done your emails yet?
02:09:02 [Morbus]
i'm at 13 now
02:13:19 [Morbus]
down to 6. works for me.
02:16:30 [sbp]
WFM
02:17:20 [Morbus]
wfm?
02:19:04 [sbp]
logster, grep 1-15 -i WFM
02:19:19 [logster]
I'm logging. I found 1 answer for '-i WFM' (showing 1...1)
02:21:30 [sbp]
Grpgmrpgrgh
02:21:38 [sbp]
logster, grep -i 1-15 WFM
02:21:47 [logster]
I'm logging. I found 46 answers for 'WFM' (showing 1...15)
02:21:48 [logster]
1) 2001-11-27 02:19:04 <sbp> logster, grep 1-15 -i WFM
02:21:49 [logster]
2) 2001-11-27 02:17:20 <Morbus> wfm?
02:21:50 [logster]
3) 2001-11-27 02:16:30 <sbp> WFM
02:21:51 [logster]
4) 2001-11-01 17:12:15 <sbp> <dajobe> WFM
02:21:52 [logster]
5) 2001-10-12 23:21:22 <sbp> WFM, a new acronym!
02:21:53 [logster]
6) 2001-10-07 23:24:44 <AaronSw> WFM!
02:21:54 [logster]
7) 2001-10-07 21:04:37 <AaronSw> I was trying to show deltab what WFM meant
02:21:55 [logster]
8) 2001-10-07 21:03:29 <sbp> WFM, what was all the acroynm stuff about?
02:21:56 [logster]
9) 2001-10-07 17:12:40 <AaronSw> logster, grep 100 WFM
02:21:57 [logster]
10) 2001-10-01 07:36:10 <sbp> WFM, it's 8:37AM. AM!
02:21:58 [logster]
11) 2001-09-26 19:55:54 <sbp> WFM, it connected on the first attempt
02:21:59 [logster]
12) 2001-09-21 02:15:27 <sbp> WFM
02:22:00 [logster]
13) 2001-09-21 01:43:50 <sbp> WFM, no results!
02:22:01 [logster]
14) 2001-09-21 01:43:11 <sbp> neat: http://www.google.com/search?q=WFM+%22well+fuck+me%22&hl=en
02:22:02 [logster]
15) 2001-09-21 01:08:02 <sbp> "00:43:23 <sbp> * sbp coins WFM" - http://blogspace.com/swhack/chatlogs/2001-09-21.txt
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02:26:03 [AaronSw]
lo
02:26:11 [Morbus]
'l
02:26:22 [sbp]
'i
02:27:09 [AaronSw]
'l?
02:27:21 [Morbus]
'l!\
02:28:30 [sbp]
l(?:[^l]+?)l!
02:28:44 [AaronSw]
deltab speaks! you should speak more, deltab
02:29:29 [sbp]
where does he speak?
02:29:53 [AaronSw]
up a little bit
02:30:13 [AaronSw]
he talks about google
02:30:21 [AaronSw]
I just built google into my address bar.
02:30:30 [lilo]
[GlobalNotice] Hi all. Not sure who reads the wallops these days. We've reduced the length of our ping frequency for clients. When people ping out, they will start to have shorter timeouts. But the question is, are more of them pinging out, or less? ;) Let us know. :)
02:30:32 [AaronSw]
making it my homepage was too slow
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02:47:56 [AaronSw]
side effects of being ranked highly on google: You get people asking for homeowrk help
02:48:12 [sbp]
heh, heh
02:48:17 [sbp]
such as?
02:48:44 [AaronSw]
someone wants to know what I htink of Medusa and the Snail.
02:49:22 [AaronSw]
.google medusa and the snail homework
02:49:23 [xena]
medusa and the snail homework: http://www.cecs.csulb.edu/~jewett/engr350/hw3example.html
02:49:36 [AaronSw]
.google how to hack wesley felter
02:49:37 [xena]
how to hack wesley felter: http://wmf.editthispage.com
02:50:20 [sbp]
so, what do you think of it?
02:50:28 [AaronSw]
I don't remember.
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02:51:59 [deltab]
why'd you want to hack Wesley Felter?
02:52:15 [AaronSw]
Heh heh. Just testing Wesley's google power.
02:52:17 [AaronSw]
.google how to hack
02:52:18 [xena]
how to hack: http://wmf.editthispage.com
02:52:34 [AaronSw]
.google hack
02:52:35 [xena]
hack: http://wmf.editthispage.com
02:52:47 [sbp]
cool
02:52:50 [AaronSw]
that's scary.
02:52:54 [AaronSw]
xmlhack is like #2
02:53:18 [sbp]
I thought it would be more like Pi
02:53:22 [AaronSw]
.todo Meet deltab
02:53:41 [AaronSw]
ah, it is #2
02:55:13 [AaronSw]
Hmm, you're not on the front page.
02:55:15 [AaronSw]
oops
02:55:31 [AaronSw]
no, never mind
02:55:32 [AaronSw]
you
02:55:34 [AaronSw]
you're not
02:57:42 [AaronSw]
hey, sbp:
02:57:42 [AaronSw]
Hello,
02:57:42 [AaronSw]
I was looking for your Wish List at Amazon.com,
02:57:42 [AaronSw]
but I couldn't find it. I want to buy you
02:57:42 [AaronSw]
something and I want to make sure it's
02:57:43 [AaronSw]
something you really want. Create a Wish List
02:57:45 [AaronSw]
at Amazon.com so I know what to get you.
02:57:47 [AaronSw]
Thanks!
02:57:49 [AaronSw]
</quote>
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Hmm, there's an Aaron O. Swartz'
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Wow, Amazon knew I was interested in Squeak. How did it do that?!
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03:51:20 [AaronSw]
Aha, no wonder it recommended Squeak. For some reason it's rated highly with "The Wiki Way". bijan....!
03:53:24 [AaronSw]
ouch: http://www.chronicle.com/free/v48/i14/14a02901.htm
03:53:28 [AaronSw]
(via HTP)
03:55:33 [AaronSw]
(via tomalak.org)
03:56:36 [sbp]
saddening
03:57:05 [AaronSw]
yeah, it really sucks, brainwashing kids like that.
03:57:19 [AaronSw]
I happened to visit my old school on the day they shut down the computer lab because of file sharing.
03:57:36 [AaronSw]
And had a nice chat about it with the principal, who's a great guy.
03:57:37 [sbp]
ugh
03:57:49 [AaronSw]
But the sysadmins there are awful.
04:11:27 [AaronSw]
be back soon
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* AaronSw reconnects
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Gotta run
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* AaronSw upgrades sbp to an Amazon Trusted Friend
04:24:02 [deltab]
what does that entail?
04:24:28 [AaronSw]
Hmm...
04:24:29 [AaronSw]
"""
04:24:30 [AaronSw]
An Amazon Friend is a person who has permission to see a private view of your About You area. This private view can include personal information like name or e-mail and items from your list of Shared Purchases. Amazon Friends appear in your Favorite People list with a star icon next to their name.
04:24:31 [AaronSw]
"""
04:25:13 [AaronSw]
* AaronSw suspects deltab is not the Daniel Biddle of New York, NY.
04:26:09 [AaronSw]
* AaronSw checks tav's wish list out.
04:26:16 [AaronSw]
Hmm, he wants a "Moisture Master 00080-4 Soaker Hose Starter Kit"
04:26:58 [AaronSw]
"""
04:26:58 [AaronSw]
Name: tav
04:26:58 [AaronSw]
Nickname: tav959
04:26:58 [AaronSw]
About me: espian
04:27:00 [AaronSw]
"""
04:27:23 [AaronSw]
Location: Orpington, Kent United Kingdom
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* oierw` waits for tav to attempt to find him
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s/tav/aaronsw/g
04:36:22 [AaronSw]
I know where you live.
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06:26:28 [AaronSw]
wb
06:28:30 [tansaku]
hey dude
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06:44:38 [AaronSw]
The Gummy Guys in the MSN Messenger icon look positively tasty.
07:00:25 [AaronSw]
g'nite everyone
07:00:35 [AaronSw]
i'm off to sleep
07:01:31 [tansaku]
So yesterday I was playing with HP's Jena to get RDF statements printed out in XML etc.
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07:02:04 [tansaku]
and I see that I have options about which RDF formalism to subscribe to
07:02:27 [tansaku]
like, there is DC and RSS, and they all have their own predicates
07:02:59 [tansaku]
so one thing is that I noticed that none of these formalisms had a keyword predicate
07:03:13 [AaronSw]
by formalisms you mean vocabularies?
07:03:20 [AaronSw]
RDF's big thing is mixing vocabularies
07:03:26 [tansaku]
sure, vocabularies
07:03:47 [tansaku]
basically it's very important for NeuroGrid to be able to describe keyword relations
07:03:54 [AaronSw]
ok, formalism sounded sort of mutually exclusive...
07:04:07 [tansaku]
I mean if I want a keyword predicate then I have to create one?
07:04:16 [tansaku]
but then can I mix it with RSS?
07:04:24 [AaronSw]
Unless you can find one someplace else...
07:04:25 [AaronSw]
yes
07:04:33 [AaronSw]
and yes to the 2nd question
07:05:14 [AaronSw]
is dc:subject different than keyword?
07:05:25 [tansaku]
So while there is an RSS vocabulary, I'm free to put in other stuff, but that just won't get used by people automatically parsing RSS feeds
07:05:37 [AaronSw]
Exactly.
07:05:49 [AaronSw]
It'll only be used by tools that understand your terms.
07:06:07 [AaronSw]
Hmm, this paper looks somewhat relevant: http://www.scit.wlv.ac.uk/~ex1253/rdf_paper/
07:06:18 [AaronSw]
they seem to be doing automatic keyword weighting for documents in rdf
07:06:37 [tansaku]
dc:subject - I'm not sure - I was looking at other things like dc:relation and just not being sure what gets used for what
07:06:56 [AaronSw]
have you looked at the dc spec?
07:07:08 [AaronSw]
http://dublincore.org/documents/dces/
07:07:22 [tansaku]
excellent reference BTW the automatic meta-data generation
07:07:32 [AaronSw]
cool
07:07:55 [tansaku]
ah thanks for the dublincore spec - I was just looking at the JENA javadocs yesterday
07:08:35 [AaronSw]
hmm, i'm not sure how seriously you should take the scit.wlv.ac.uk stuff -- their schema doesn't even resolve :(
07:08:53 [tansaku]
and I presume there is something similar for RSS - and if you publish an RSS format then other tools (?) can grab your stuff and display it elsewhere
07:09:13 [tansaku]
I'll be careful with the scit.wlv.ac.uk people then ...
07:09:19 [AaronSw]
Yeah, RSS spec is at http://purl.org/rss/1.0/
07:09:28 [AaronSw]
* AaronSw is an RSS co-author
07:09:47 [tansaku]
* tansaku wonders what an RSS co-author is
07:09:56 [AaronSw]
co-author of the RSS spec.
07:10:13 [tansaku]
Ah, you mean you wrote it with some other people
07:10:20 [AaronSw]
yeah
07:10:54 [tansaku]
so what are the tools that people use to handle RSS - I mean I don't know any at all
07:11:16 [AaronSw]
Really? It's one of the most popular RDF, no, XML formats in use...
07:11:46 [tansaku]
* tansaku comes from a different part of the world
07:12:10 [AaronSw]
true
07:12:18 [AaronSw]
It was used by My Netscape
07:12:23 [tansaku]
I mean I hear that RadioUserland has something to so with that, Meerkat, but I don't really know what either of those systems does really
07:12:36 [AaronSw]
Yeah.
07:12:41 [AaronSw]
Their RSS aggregators.
07:12:48 [AaronSw]
They grabn all these RSS feeds and put them on a page for ou.
07:12:48 [tansaku]
ah yeah, maybe I saw some of the Netscape things, but I never hacked - it was just something going on in the background
07:12:55 [AaronSw]
great for news-obsessive people
07:13:00 [AaronSw]
xena speaks rss too
07:13:02 [AaronSw]
.news slashdot
07:13:02 [tansaku]
and you can select which RSS feeds you like?
07:13:03 [xena]
[ SLASHDOT ] - European Space Agency Developing GPS Rival - Wil Wheaton playing for EFF - California Takes Issue With Microsoft Settlement Idea - http://slashdot.org/
07:13:07 [AaronSw]
tansaku, yeah
07:13:16 [AaronSw]
xena's .news works by grabbing RSS feeds
07:13:41 [tansaku]
* tansaku starts swimming out into a new sea of knowledge
07:14:02 [tansaku]
so if I'm publishing an RSS compatible document then how do I let people know it's there?
07:14:12 [tansaku]
I mail Rael and Dave huh?
07:14:17 [AaronSw]
That's one way.
07:14:27 [AaronSw]
Nowadays I recommend that you submit it to syndic8.com
07:14:48 [deltab]
there's also xmltree.com
07:15:02 [AaronSw]
yeah, but they're not as cool ;-)
07:15:19 [tansaku]
Anyways, I see there's an RSS module design thing on purl.org, but what I'm really looking for is guidelines on structuring my RSS feed period.
07:16:01 [AaronSw]
Well, RSS feeds are pretty well structured.
07:16:17 [AaronSw]
There's a channel with some properties, and a bunch of items, each with some properties
07:16:22 [AaronSw]
you should look at some of them
07:16:28 [AaronSw]
there's a long list on syndic8.com
07:16:40 [tansaku]
I was looking at your one that you create with a chumpbot like thing
07:16:48 [AaronSw]
cool
07:16:50 [AaronSw]
that's a good example
07:16:53 [AaronSw]
.news swhack
07:16:54 [xena]
[ SWHACK ] - http://blogspace.com/swhack/weblog/
07:17:18 [AaronSw]
hmm, pretty bland now i guess
07:17:50 [tansaku]
I just wondered if there was some kind of consensus about how to display things - but I guess the aggregators can redisplay stuff in whatever style they like
07:18:13 [AaronSw]
Yep.
07:18:25 [AaronSw]
data like that isn't tied down into one formatting
07:18:28 [AaronSw]
that's why it's so nice
07:19:05 [tansaku]
right - and if I want to parse an RSS feed, then I need to use my own templates, or XSL or something to reformat?
07:19:30 [AaronSw]
Yeah, depends what you're doing really.
07:19:42 [AaronSw]
like xena loads it into a db and then prints it out as text on command
07:19:46 [AaronSw]
so you can do:
07:19:50 [AaronSw]
.news on navy
07:20:01 [AaronSw]
.news on afghanistan
07:20:07 [AaronSw]
* AaronSw kicks xena
07:20:09 [AaronSw]
.news on
07:20:09 [xena]
usage: email <email address> [<subject line> //] <message>
07:20:10 [xena]
- send email from irc! just specify the email address you want to send it to.
07:20:11 [xena]
- you can also provide an optional subject line, provided you close it with //
07:20:16 [AaronSw]
huh?
07:20:18 [AaronSw]
weird
07:20:22 [tansaku]
weird
07:20:37 [deltab]
.help news on
07:20:43 [deltab]
.help news
07:20:43 [xena]
usage: news <channel channel> [/ #] [#] [+]
07:20:44 [xena]
- renders the latest news for the specified channel.
07:20:45 [xena]
- use / # to define the number of news items you want. it defaults to 3.
07:20:46 [xena]
- define # to get the description and link for the news item number.
07:20:47 [xena]
- provide the + option if you want to get the news titles and urls displayed.
07:20:55 [AaronSw]
anywy, it's supposed to do a search against its database
07:21:42 [deltab]
.news on business
07:21:44 [xena]
XML: An Initiative driven largely by business executives - Content-Wire - http://c.moreover.com/click/here.pl?l28209689
07:21:45 [xena]
Andale, with Content Management - Content-Wire - http://c.moreover.com/click/here.pl?l28209673
07:21:46 [xena]
Workshop: Disaster Recovery Planning - AccountingWEB - http://c.moreover.com/click/here.pl?l28209554
07:22:10 [tansaku]
anyways: to summarise (and let you get to bed), I'm basically free to publish RSS feeds with additional predicates, but only the official RSS predicates will be used by common tools - other people will be able to syndicate the content that I display and potentially display it in a different format
07:22:21 [deltab]
I think the word you give is matched against channel names
07:22:43 [AaronSw]
tansaku, sounds right
07:23:11 [AaronSw]
* AaronSw wonders how c.moreover.com got into his adservers-to-block list
07:23:12 [tansaku]
but like with the swhack weblog, the RSS feed is different from any html, but the two might be derived from the same source, database, flat file, whatever
07:23:25 [AaronSw]
right
07:24:10 [tansaku]
thanks for that - sounds like people could really use a NeuroGrid like interface on top of an RSS aggregator - I guess that's what orasis was talkgin about putting NeuroGrid over Meerkat
07:24:27 [AaronSw]
yeah, that definitely sounds cool
07:25:00 [AaronSw]
well, hope i was helpful
07:25:06 [AaronSw]
.time jst
07:25:07 [xena]
Nov. 27, 2001 4:26 pm GMT+9
07:25:20 [AaronSw]
have a nice afternoon
07:25:23 [tansaku]
the whole point being to use usage frequency to rank the feeds for your own organisation, and if you publish, allow others to see your preferences
07:25:33 [tansaku]
* tansaku stops talking
07:25:47 [tansaku]
AaronSw; thanks you were very helpful
07:25:48 [AaronSw]
Heh.
07:25:55 [AaronSw]
ah, no prob
07:25:58 [tansaku]
night then - see you around
07:26:08 [AaronSw]
* AaronSw awaits an RSS/Neurogrid demo
07:26:12 [AaronSw]
.google meerkat
07:26:13 [xena]
meerkat: http://meerkat.oreillynet.com
07:26:17 [AaronSw]
nite
07:29:05 [tansaku]
* tansaku starts to hack
07:29:15 [tansaku]
nite dude
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good timing:-
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[[[
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17:31:30 [GabeW]
hi
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they messed up the mixing on "Brown Eyed Girl" a bit...
18:24:18 [sbp]
I'm sure that at about 2:30 into the song, the volume goes down too much, and then comes back again. Perhaps there was a production mistake, so they had to take a track off
18:25:41 [sbp]
.google "Brown Eyed Girl" production mistake
18:25:42 [xena]
"Brown Eyed Girl" production mistake: http://www.rarb.org/reviews/253.html
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Gotta run
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18:44:38 [Morbus]
la la la.
18:46:49 [AaronSw]
la la la la!
18:46:53 [Morbus]
yay!
18:46:57 [Morbus]
how are you?
18:47:06 [AaronSw]
ok, you?
18:50:02 [Morbus]
alright. got my kity. wish i was home with it.
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18:50:57 [AaronSw]
Ooh, how is it?
18:51:13 [sbp]
How is what? Morbus' cat?
18:51:38 [Morbus]
yeah.
18:51:39 [AaronSw]
AaronSw has changed the topic to: The first rule of swhack: You do not talk about swhack
18:51:41 [Morbus]
she's sleepy./
18:51:43 [Morbus]
heh.
18:51:52 [sbp]
Did you call her "Bunny"?
18:51:55 [Morbus]
i have that sound track.
18:51:57 [Morbus]
no, maya.
18:52:03 [AaronSw]
Whoa, etoy is broadcasting from Sealand now?
18:52:17 [Morbus]
whoa, you get etoy missives too? kickass <g>
18:54:12 [sbp]
What's the second rule of swhack? (I'm aware of the citation)
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18:55:03 [sbp]
yo, etoy boy
18:55:30 [AaronSw]
second rule: You do not talk about swhack
18:55:38 [sbp]
:-)
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Gotta run
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what's up with chumpster today?
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[GlobalSpam] We return you to your regular scheduled programming.
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hi
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* sbp spies Morbus off of the starboard bow
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* Morbus blows a spout of water with blissful glee!
21:21:24 [Morbus]
so how are you, my spear throwing captain?
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21:23:16 [Morbus]
so how are you, my spear throwing captain?
21:24:01 [Morbus]
i bet you're gonna timeout soon. sigh.
21:24:06 [sbp]
spear throwing? Fine, thank you. And you?
21:24:10 [sbp]
Nah, not me guv'ner
21:24:30 [Morbus]
well, i need to lose wait. the brine this year are plentiful, and i haven't been watching what i eat.
21:24:35 [Morbus]
/wait/weight/
21:26:35 [sbp]
that's what plankton does to you
21:27:04 [Morbus]
i wanna go home to my kitty! >:(
21:29:10 [sbp]
Why don'
21:29:20 [sbp]
don't you? What's stopping you? The man?
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* AaronSw makes note not to do web site design
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21:40:01 [Morbus]
yeah, the man.
21:40:08 [Morbus]
AaronSw, i hear ya. i'm burnt out on web design.
21:40:42 [AaronSw]
Well, it's not web design that's my problem. It's my complete inability to express myself visually.
21:40:48 [AaronSw]
It sucks, because I'm a visual thinker.
21:41:02 [sbp]
* sbp laughs a bit
21:41:14 [AaronSw]
laugh it up, fuzzball
21:41:21 [AaronSw]
;-)
21:41:27 [Morbus]
heh/
21:41:40 [Morbus]
hey, can i ask you guys a design related question? <g>
21:41:44 [AaronSw]
sure.
21:41:45 [AaronSw]
* AaronSw wonders whether to share the drek he created...
21:42:17 [Morbus]
http://lists.evolt.org/archive/Week-of-Mon-20011126/018008.html
21:42:26 [AaronSw]
I need visual IRC -- that'll teach me to express myself visually.
21:42:37 [Morbus]
they're used to be ... wait, you mean groove?
21:42:45 [AaronSw]
Hmm.
21:42:45 [Morbus]
hotlinesw used to release a chat program with a whiteboard.
21:43:15 [AaronSw]
Interesting.
21:43:20 [AaronSw]
I wish they had Groove for Mac.
21:43:25 [deltab]
somewhere I've seen mention of a whiteboard extension to irc
21:43:33 [AaronSw]
Heh, only Morbus would pick the PaganWiccan about.com site
21:43:40 [Morbus]
heheheh.e
21:43:46 [Morbus]
gotta spread the gospel any chance i get <g>
21:43:58 [Morbus]
so what do you think?
21:44:06 [Morbus]
i keep thinking they would solve a lot of my disobey.com ia related probels.
21:44:12 [Morbus]
it kept me up at night thinking about it.
21:44:20 [AaronSw]
I don't think there's a navbard on top of the about.com site
21:44:32 [Morbus]
not until you get into a certain section.
21:44:32 [deltab]
heh, navbard
21:44:36 [Morbus]
its a simple navtrail.
21:44:36 [AaronSw]
heh heh
21:44:43 [sbp]
I think you should use black text on a black background for disobey...
21:44:45 [deltab]
a poet who tells you how to get about a site
21:44:49 [AaronSw]
Exactly!
21:44:50 [Morbus]
@ http://www.asktog.com/basics/firstPrinciples.html
21:45:01 [AaronSw]
navbards are _so_ disobey.com
21:45:02 [chumpster]
A: http://www.asktog.com/basics/firstPrinciples.html from Morbus
21:45:13 [Morbus]
what? i hate poetry, mofo.
21:45:19 [Morbus]
A::The following principles are fundamental to the design and implementation of effective interfaces, whether for traditional GUI environments or the web. Of late, many web applications have reflected a lack of understanding of many of these principles of design, to their great detriment. Because an application or service appears on the web, the principles do not change. If anything, applying these principles become even more important.
21:45:20 [chumpster]
commented item A
21:45:34 [Morbus]
first post! <g>
21:45:44 [AaronSw]
if you think this site sucks, send a not do disobey mucks. if you want to see sheep, click here and make your client beep.
21:45:47 [AaronSw]
errm note
21:46:03 [Morbus]
um.
21:46:05 [Morbus]
huh?
21:46:11 [AaronSw]
heh heh heh
21:46:18 [AaronSw]
my attempt at navbardery fails
21:46:26 [Morbus]
:)
21:46:36 [AaronSw]
A:|AskTog: First Principles
21:46:37 [chumpster]
titled item A
21:46:49 [Morbus]
there's a chump around that puts the page title automatically in there.
21:47:30 [AaronSw]
Yeah, ours does that.
21:47:42 [Morbus]
then whydoesnt it everdo it?
21:47:43 [AaronSw]
Just not with slow sites.
21:47:55 [AaronSw]
it does it a lot
21:48:20 [AaronSw]
logster, grep chumpster.*[A-Z]: [^h]
21:49:11 [logster]
I'm logging. I found 65 answers for 'chumpster.*[A-Z]: [^h]' (showing 0...4)
21:49:12 [logster]
0) 2001-11-26 21:04:55 <chumpster> E: svg2swf from sbp
21:49:13 [logster]
1) 2001-11-26 01:31:18 <chumpster> C: Overview of 'Fractal Thicket' Indexing from AaronSw
21:49:14 [logster]
2) 2001-11-26 00:42:25 <chumpster> B: Finnegan's Wake eText / bookwarez from AaronSw
21:49:15 [logster]
3) 2001-11-26 00:36:50 <chumpster> A: The Xtraceroute homepage. from AaronSw
21:49:16 [logster]
4) 2001-11-25 16:47:48 <chumpster> B: ElectionMethods.org: Studying Alternate Voting Systems (http://electionmethods.org/)
21:52:15 [Morbus]
so ignoring all this, what do yout hink of those network bars?
21:52:56 [sbp]
Gotta run
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21:53:58 [AaronSw]
I guess they're a good idea.
21:54:06 [AaronSw]
if you do it well
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22:27:52 [Morbus]
atlantis? http://www.earthfiles.com/earth303.htm
22:30:44 [AaronSw]
wow
22:30:51 [Morbus]
yeah, indeed.
22:33:08 [Morbus]
better or worse?
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22:57:08 [sbp]
* sbp waves
22:58:49 [AaronSw]
hi sbp
22:58:53 [AaronSw]
i didn't see you come in
22:59:11 [AaronSw]
Hmm, I guess you never left
22:59:35 [sbp]
Uh huh
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23:07:08 [AaronSw]
sbp, do you know whwn the W3C Plenary is?
23:07:58 [sbp]
yes, thanks
23:08:18 [sbp]
25 February 2002 - 1 March 2002
23:08:23 [AaronSw]
many thanks
23:08:32 [sbp]
no problem
23:09:15 [AaronSw]
* AaronSw is filling in his new calendar software
23:09:52 [sbp]
cool
23:10:18 [AaronSw]
When's your birthday?
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23:24:48 [AaronSw]
Anybody know what "German post-reform rules" are in the context of spelling?
23:24:54 [AaronSw]
.webster german post-reform rules
23:24:54 [xena]
error: unable to define german post-reform rules
23:29:44 [AaronSw]
Entourage is actually very nice.
23:30:01 [AaronSw]
It's got a great little calendar thing, which stores people birthdays and calculates their age and horoscope.
23:30:06 [AaronSw]
It can also store their picture and nickname.
23:30:16 [AaronSw]
It's got a great system for creating links between items.
23:30:23 [AaronSw]
It's a very pretty interface, if a big too large at times.
23:30:36 [AaronSw]
And it'll even keep track of tasks for you.
23:30:55 [AaronSw]
It has this nice thing called "views" which are like automatically-updated queries.
23:31:06 [AaronSw]
And they added real indexing, so searching is very fast.
23:33:04 [AaronSw]
Did I mention it has a system for storing notes to yourself?
23:34:46 [AaronSw]
Oh, cool, there's a preference to get rid of the annoying button bloat.
23:35:28 [AaronSw]
Hmm, sucky export features tho.
23:35:45 [AaronSw]
Whoa, it can save my calendar as a webpage.
23:36:24 [AaronSw]
It's a sucky frame-based, javascript webpage, tho.
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23:40:24 [AaronSw]
Hey Morbus. Entourage is starting to grow on me.
23:40:29 [AaronSw]
It has an awesome todo list system.
23:40:41 [Morbus]
my kitty is going to the bathroom. i think she's constipated.
23:40:44 [Morbus]
it does? like what? tell me about it.
23:40:55 [Morbus]
can you use it without forcing email usage?
23:41:09 [AaronSw]
Yeah.
23:41:19 [AaronSw]
Open it up for yourself.
23:41:20 [Morbus]
maybe i should try it, eh?
23:41:26 [AaronSw]
yeah
23:41:26 [Morbus]
i didn't even install it.
23:41:32 [Morbus]
lemme throw in my disk here.
23:43:58 [Morbus]
ooh. kitty peed blood.
23:44:00 [Morbus]
brv
23:44:14 [Morbus]
ack! happy soudn on startup!
23:44:43 [AaronSw]
of your kitty?
23:44:48 [Morbus]
no. entourage
23:44:51 [AaronSw]
oh, heh
23:45:36 [Morbus]
so what's so great about this tasks thing?
23:45:49 [AaronSw]
it's got metadata, and search on metadata, and views
23:45:55 [AaronSw]
and links and colors and categories
23:46:01 [AaronSw]
and a cool interface, and a nice tie-in with the calendar
23:46:06 [AaronSw]
and graphical notes
23:46:18 [Morbus]
ooh. nice reoccuring events
23:46:22 [AaronSw]
yeah
23:46:30 [Morbus]
metadata? where?
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23:46:56 [AaronSw]
just priority and categories, really
23:48:29 [Morbus]
nice tasks thing on the calendar.
23:49:09 [Morbus]
ooh. see contact on expedia map
23:49:58 [Morbus]
random signatures. nice.
23:50:12 [AaronSw]
* AaronSw wonders what to plug in his .sigs
23:50:25 [AaronSw]
Ah, swhack weblog
23:50:35 [Morbus]
hmm. this looks good.
23:51:04 [AaronSw]
yeah, i bet it'll even import from eudora
23:51:15 [Morbus]
i['m gonna try that now. ee how fast it is.
23:51:20 [Morbus]
i have one folder with 2500+ emails.
23:51:25 [AaronSw]
heh, probably not very
23:52:05 [Morbus]
eudora runs well with that many.
23:52:19 [Morbus]
one of the main reasons i switched to eudora. i was using oe before that and it started getting real real slow
23:52:41 [AaronSw]
oh, i menat the import is slow
23:52:44 [AaronSw]
the program seems really fast
23:52:48 [AaronSw]
i have 10,000 messages
23:53:05 [Morbus]
oh neat. you can categorize email.
23:54:44 [Morbus]
and i'm running this off the cd still too ;)
23:55:21 [AaronSw]
Heh.
23:56:16 [AaronSw]
Wow, the rules in here are great: "is from a mailing list" "is a reply to me"
23:56:22 [Morbus]
importing
23:56:27 [AaronSw]
"is html mail"
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23:56:38 [Morbus]
whoa? is html mail?
23:56:38 [Morbus]
kickass.
23:56:45 [AaronSw]
yeah
23:57:04 [AaronSw]
and it bursts digests -- cool
23:57:31 [Morbus]
wow. only about 25 seconds on a folder with 1000 items. dunno if it did it right though
23:57:34 [AaronSw]
if is html mail then change status to junk mail
23:57:35 [AaronSw]
;-)
23:57:40 [Morbus]
exactly :)
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