IRC log of swhack on 2001-10-12

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topic is: #swhack: winner of the prestigious Morbus/disobey.com "pathetic" award, 2001

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Users on #swhack: logster Morbus deltab AaronSw

00:01:55 [deltab]

nope

00:02:11 [Morbus]

and you're logged in? and you've got reviewer status?

00:02:43 [deltab]

hmm, the first page has my username, status, and "Start reviewing", but the pages after that don't

00:02:56 [Morbus]

and when you lcick on start reviewing, you don't see em?

00:03:02 [deltab]

no

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what browser are you using?

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links

00:03:20 [Morbus]

not familiar with that one.

00:03:34 [deltab]

it's got cookie support

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and css?

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not yet

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maybe that's it.

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the buttons are colored via css

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there simply aren't any buttons

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I checked the html

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well, that's weird.

00:06:00 [AaronSw]

Bush!

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Pygmy!

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You can just see him stall as someone types new words into his teleprompter. ;-)

00:10:18 [Morbus]

hehe

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...dinnertime!

00:13:07 [Morbus]

afk for a bit.

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D'ya know what I say? Bollocks is what I say. It's taken nearly half an hour to connect

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boloocks.

00:23:02 [Morbus]

hey, do you read warren ellis?

00:23:05 [Morbus]

or garth ennis?

00:25:02 [sbp]

me? are you talking to me? me?!

00:25:14 [Morbus]

yes you! you, i dare say, youoOOuu!

00:25:27 [sbp]

nope, I don't

00:27:18 [Morbus]

* Morbus is listening to PowerPuff FM again

00:27:38 [deltab]

what's that?

00:27:47 [Morbus]

a radiu station of just cartoon theme songs

00:27:57 [Morbus]

streaming mp3

00:28:08 [Morbus]

works great over 56k

00:28:11 [Morbus]

:)

00:28:12 [deltab]

where?

00:28:42 [Morbus]

animehardcore.net is the parent site and the mp3 link is...

00:28:51 [Morbus]

http://pri.kts-af.net/redir/index.pls?esid=94321d77332591e0b1461453e1b2f661&url_no=2&client_id=7&uid=68efed4d03ec7e45fd3978262c107180&clicksrc=xml

00:28:57 [deltab]

eek

00:29:06 [Morbus]

heh. at least, that's how itunes reports it :)

00:29:30 [sbp]

do they ever play the Simpsons' theme?

00:29:41 [Morbus]

nope, but they rotate the play list every month or so

00:29:52 [Morbus]

they play some old simpson tracks from the cd that came out though

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the bartman, lisa it's your birthday, that sorta crap

00:30:21 [Morbus]

they're playing earthworm jim right now

00:30:35 [deltab]

* deltab dereferences

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http://166.90.143.142:10820

00:30:47 [Morbus]

ehehehheeh. that works too? man, that's funny

00:34:25 [Morbus]

you listening deltab?

00:35:24 [sbp]

Homer: Marge, it takes two to lie. One to lie, and one to listen

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00:47:14 [AaronSw]

Let's all join hands and send a dollar to Afghanistan!

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00:53:46 [AaronSw]

Yuck, UserLand is spreading RSS 1.0 misinformation.

00:56:15 [Morbus]

what now?

00:56:33 [AaronSw]

They are telling people with RSS 1.0 feeds that they are broken and should switch to 0.91.

00:56:42 [Morbus]

whaaa? how'd you find that out?

00:56:56 [AaronSw]

I've been getting emails from people complaining.

00:57:05 [AaronSw]

They ask why I serve up RSS 1.0 since it's not compatible with UserLand.

00:57:14 [AaronSw]

And quote messages from UserLand employees.

00:57:21 [AaronSw]

(OK, just one person has done this, but still.)

00:57:53 [Morbus]

sheesh. you should post that somewhere.

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or recommend readers that read 1.0 fine.

00:58:22 [Morbus]

whistle, whistle, nudge, nudge

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;)

00:58:42 [AaronSw]

Heheh, I will take it up with the employee mentioned.

01:00:10 [Morbus]

lemme know how it goes. i'll be interested to see the response

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01:00:55 [AaronSw]

'lo

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'i

01:01:02 [Morbus]

'

01:01:18 [Morbus]

heh

01:01:21 [AaronSw]

'ot again!

01:01:23 [sbp]

'?

01:01:28 [sbp]

he he he

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* sbp underlines the topic

01:01:43 [Morbus]

heheh

01:01:43 [sbp]

I just published: http://infomesh.net/2001/10/dothtml/

01:02:55 [Morbus]

am i lagging?

01:03:06 [Morbus]

nope. guess not.

01:03:10 [Morbus]

took me forever to coonect to that wsite

01:03:18 [AaronSw]

hmm

01:03:25 [AaronSw]

Sean's server does that sometimes.

01:03:40 [Morbus]

hey!

01:03:45 [AaronSw]

Huh? "The world and it's dog use ".html" as a part of a URI"

01:03:47 [Morbus]

sbp, did you read my xml-rpc rant?

01:03:52 [AaronSw]

Where? Where?

01:04:12 [Morbus]

aaron, you didn't read it? it was on syndication aw hile ago. well received by a lot of people. linked a bunch of places, etc.

01:04:17 [Morbus]

and mentioned a DOG as an example cahracter.

01:04:23 [Morbus]

i think sean's ripping me off.

01:04:28 [AaronSw]

Hmm, I think I remember it.

01:04:30 [sbp]

* sbp sends the rant to www-qa

01:04:39 [Morbus]

hat rant?this rant/

01:04:40 [sbp]

DOG? Aw, I missed it

01:04:57 [Morbus]

did you see that xml-rpc rant, sbp?

01:05:02 [sbp]

nope

01:05:18 [sbp]

URI? (with or without ".html")

01:05:24 [AaronSw]

Look who's talking sbp -- you're the one who always chops off the .html on stuff!

01:05:31 [sbp]

I know

01:05:36 [Morbus]

don't condone him

01:05:40 [sbp]

[[[

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I'm just noodling on something TimBL wrote about ".html" file extenisons

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being counter to persistence axioms. I'm not sure I can totally defend the

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".html" position, and I still go to great lengths to avoid file

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extensions... but enjoy the note anyway.

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]]]

01:05:41 [Morbus]

devil's advocate is a very neccessary thing

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http://groups.yahoo.com/group/syndication/message/2217

01:05:56 [sbp]

cheers, Morby

01:06:35 [Morbus]

you know, this is the first time i've been to your site.

01:06:40 [sbp]

heh: "share the love!"

01:06:44 [Morbus]

heheheh

01:06:45 [AaronSw]

where's that "just noodling" quote from?

01:06:47 [sbp]

ooh, your first time

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i know.

01:06:52 [Morbus]

it hurts.

01:06:53 [sbp]

just noodling: www-qa

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lol!

01:08:14 [sbp]

[[[

01:08:14 [sbp]

I'm sure everyone on this list knows what that means. But my dog? Nope, my

01:08:15 [sbp]

dog is gonna lick his nuts in feverish confusion. And I don't even have a

01:08:15 [sbp]

dog, so that means an awful lot of confusion.

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]]]

01:08:20 [Morbus]

hehehehe

01:08:24 [Morbus]

thats what i'm talking about :)

01:08:31 [sbp]

that's a masterpiece

01:08:34 [Morbus]

lol

01:12:20 [sbp]

heh: "Hey! In your current listing,

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thirteen other people linked to this site. You're not

01:12:20 [sbp]

being very original, binky. AmphetaDesk will now crash in

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a fit of Koontz inspired anger."

01:12:43 [sbp]

does it really have that function built-in?

01:13:14 [Morbus]

hehe. not yet :)

01:13:31 [Morbus]

do you get the Koontz joke?

01:14:08 [sbp]

Dean Koontz?

01:14:11 [AaronSw]

nope

01:14:38 [sbp]

Abraham Koontz?

01:14:52 [AaronSw]

oops, the nope was that i don't get it, not re dean

01:15:22 [sbp]

Koontz is a horror writer... 'tis all I know

01:15:37 [AaronSw]

an unoriginal horror writer

01:15:40 [Morbus]

exactly.

01:15:41 [AaronSw]

Roland F. Koontz, it might be

01:15:51 [Morbus]

read two or three of his books, and you've read them all

01:15:58 [Morbus]

dean koonz.

01:16:01 [Morbus]

is the right one

01:16:02 [AaronSw]

that's what epinions says

01:16:11 [Morbus]

oh yeah? didn't know that.

01:16:28 [sbp]

ah, so it's anger inspired by wasting too much money on Dean Koontz books?

01:16:30 [AaronSw]

[[[

01:16:31 [AaronSw]

Dean Koontz has never been on my top list of must-read authors... his books have always been the fillers for me: filling in the space between books by authors I stalk the library for, if you know what I mean.

01:16:32 [AaronSw]

]]]

01:16:38 [Morbus]

heh...

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money, time, and brainpower, yes.

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:)

01:17:03 [sbp]

yeah, well imagine how Dean Koontz feels, then

01:17:55 [sbp]

Ooh, a reply from Ian already on www-qa

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[[[

01:18:05 [sbp]

Up to now, .html has been the only game in town for document markup.

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For image formats, we typically leave off the extension. Now that SVG is

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a Recommendation, we'll probably start publishing several versions of an

01:18:05 [sbp]

image, so that you get the best format your browser supports.

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]]]

01:18:34 [sbp]

- http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-qa/2001Oct/0038

01:19:37 [sbp]

Whenever someone writes a confusing letter to me from now on, I can just say, "stop it! my Dog's balls are red enough as it is, give the poor chap a break!"

01:21:19 [sbp]

IE 6PR had a bug where it wouldn't display GIF files that didn't have a ".gif" extension. That was sooo annoying

01:21:30 [sbp]

they've fixed it in the full version

01:23:22 [Morbus]

you should, it'll be our little joke

01:23:37 [Morbus]

give an xhtml document an .xml extension and ie6 will display it as raw code

01:23:46 [Morbus]

happens on amphetadesk when people delete=filename.xml

01:24:19 [sbp]

Mozilla treats it "right" though, I think

01:24:38 [sbp]

but neither of the things let you access the "default" stylesheet and bugger about with it

01:25:25 [AaronSw]

maybe because they don't have one

01:28:05 [sbp]

yeah

01:28:11 [sbp]

well no, they must have

01:28:20 [sbp]

but not an accessible one

01:28:41 [AaronSw]

Why must they?

01:28:55 [AaronSw]

accessible as in get at it or Accessible as in WAI?

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as in "get it"

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which is a function of the latter sense :-)

01:31:08 [AaronSw]

The UserLand rep kindly apologized and said: "This was a misunderstanding on my part, though I don't remember the specific channel, or what its XML looked like."

01:31:26 [sbp]

what's that in reference to?

01:32:14 [AaronSw]

In reference to the fact he was spreading misinformation about RSS 1.0 before.

01:32:15 [Morbus]

ah, well, thats' good then

01:41:25 [AaronSw]

Dave Winer: "Whitepapers are a dime a dozen. I bet most don't even pass a Turing Test."

01:44:12 [Morbus]

wha?

01:44:17 [Morbus]

oh. o.

01:44:20 [Morbus]

ok. i get it.

01:44:52 [Morbus]

just sent a big email out concernign syncasaurus. sheesh.

01:45:11 [AaronSw]

where to?

01:45:30 [Morbus]

the -develop mailing list at sf.

01:45:43 [Morbus]

some guy did a screen by screen grab of the bookmarksync process.

01:45:55 [Morbus]

the email concerns that process, and the one we've currently drafted

01:46:57 [Morbus]

heheh

01:49:53 [Morbus]

you know what i hate?

01:49:59 [sbp]

what?

01:50:00 [Morbus]

i hear about new xml standards or whatever or what have you.

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so i rush off to the site, and the first thing i look for is a big old example link

01:50:19 [Morbus]

i don't care about the methology, or the dtd or the white paper or who implemented it.

01:50:27 [Morbus]

i just want to see an xml document. even if it's alpha.

01:50:34 [Morbus]

it's the whole code shui thing. i like things to look OK.

01:50:39 [AaronSw]

me too!

01:50:42 [Morbus]

i hate OCS, cos it looks ugly as hell.

01:50:43 [sbp]

yeah, me too

01:51:02 [sbp]

er... about the XML documents

01:51:22 [Morbus]

so, i remember checking out humanML (and syncML too) and not seeing any examples, and running away

01:51:29 [Morbus]

see, now, xkitchensink gave me an example.

01:51:34 [Morbus]

:)

01:51:41 [sbp]

ah! XKitchenSink is a good standard

01:51:43 [AaronSw]

we did? we better take that out...

01:51:48 [sbp]

lol

01:51:56 [Morbus]

i heard crucial ram was pretty good too

01:51:57 [Morbus]

lol

01:52:47 [AaronSw]

Yeah, my server went down today and I thought I should buy some crucial ram for it

01:53:05 [AaronSw]

but its ram slots were full with... curcial ram!

01:53:16 [Morbus]

i'm tellin ya, there was a pigeon on my a/c today. i threw some crucial ram at it, and everything was roses

01:53:16 [AaronSw]

and you know what, the box was sold to me by the folks who own crucial ram!

01:56:35 [AaronSw]

Sean, you don't

01:56:39 [AaronSw]

use CVS., do you?

01:56:52 [sbp]

CVS? On IIS? Heh, heh, heh, heh, heh!

01:57:01 [AaronSw]

it's independent of the web server

01:57:03 [AaronSw]

So why do you insist on sticking cryptic: $Id: sbp:OhYeah, 01 July 2001 00:58:32 spalmer Exp $ gunk on your pages?

01:57:09 [Morbus]

heh

01:57:13 [Morbus]

its reet.

01:57:21 [sbp]

because I wrote a CVS style program in ASP

01:57:26 [AaronSw]

oh dear

01:57:32 [sbp]

oh dear is right!

01:57:43 [Morbus]

i wrote a module called Log::Simple, which uses stuff like $Log::Simple::Config->{$config} and I kept wondering why it was breaking after being CVS'd ;)

01:57:55 [AaronSw]

heh

01:57:56 [sbp]

heh heh

01:58:24 [AaronSw]

Why do you even insisit on sticking Exp in there? Do you even know what it means?

01:58:38 [AaronSw]

Your website still says "I'm also a HumanMarkup TC member, for some reason." btw

01:58:51 [sbp]

Whoopsy bollocks

01:59:10 [Morbus]

so, get me on HumanMarkup, sbp, where's an example?

01:59:21 [AaronSw]

There aren't any.

01:59:28 [AaronSw]

They haven't decided on what it is yet.

01:59:32 [Morbus]

ah.

01:59:35 [Morbus]

bah.

01:59:41 [AaronSw]

(I learned this from sbp's rant.)

01:59:49 [Morbus]

the first thing i'd look at would be interactive fiction projects

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they've done a lot of work on what people are and how they can be shown in code.

02:00:14 [Morbus]

particularly erazmatazz.com (i think thats it - lemme know if it 404s).

02:01:09 [Morbus]

but what the hell do i know? i just give out awards

02:02:05 [Morbus]

ok. hold on

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ack!

02:03:28 [Morbus]

where the hell did i put my ifiction bookmarks <g>

02:03:31 [Morbus]

too many damn bookmarks.

02:03:43 [AaronSw]

time for syncasaurus ;)

02:03:54 [Morbus]

:)

02:04:17 [sbp]

O.K., I fixed my homepage

02:04:21 [AaronSw]

I had this weird dream where I finally visited Sean one day, and I couldn't stand to talk to him face to face so we logged on to IRC to chat.

02:04:25 [sbp]

actually, I'm still preparing a new one

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dream: lol"

02:04:32 [Morbus]

lol

02:04:36 [AaronSw]

new one: ugh, not again

02:05:01 [Morbus]

sean, ever looked at thebrain?

02:05:08 [Morbus]

actually, you wanna talk about humanml?

02:05:09 [sbp]

if you ever do visit me, that's probably what will end up happening

02:05:21 [sbp]

briefly, someone pointed it out to me

02:05:26 [sbp]

humanml; not really

02:05:34 [Morbus]

k. here we go:

02:05:35 [Morbus]

http://www.erasmatazz.com/

02:05:37 [Morbus]

thats what i meant

02:06:20 [AaronSw]

if, pah! there's no escaping a visit from Aaron

02:06:26 [AaronSw]

Or, as Bush said tonight, "The Evil One"

02:06:38 [Morbus]

the evil one? oh god.

02:06:42 [Morbus]

sigh.

02:06:52 [Morbus]

town leaders should not submit to those sorts of phrases.

02:06:55 [Morbus]

thats the job of the media

02:07:33 [AaronSw]

Heh -- there was a comic in the New Yorker this week that read: "Bush is starting to grow on me -- he's sounding positively mayoral."

02:07:45 [Morbus]

heh

02:08:09 [AaronSw]

The evil one on IRC brings up Society > Subcultures > Anti Social > Evil Geniuses

02:08:21 [sbp]

lol; Gerald!

02:09:37 [AaronSw]

Yep!

02:10:18 [AaronSw]

Aww, Gerald is only the 7th evil genius named Gerald on Google.

02:11:22 [sbp]

dear oh dear

02:12:06 [AaronSw]

Gerald Oskoboiny is an Evil Genious: http://impressive.net/people/gerald/

02:12:17 [AaronSw]

We should insert that in random highly-ranked google pages ;)

02:12:32 [sbp]

good idea. Seed it, eh?

02:13:26 [AaronSw]

yep

02:13:33 [Morbus]

we should put it in our signatures.

02:13:39 [sbp]

ooh, yeah

02:13:48 [Morbus]

works great for disobey ;)

02:13:52 [AaronSw]

You can do funny thing with titling links and Google.

02:14:05 [sbp]

like what?

02:14:15 [AaronSw]

Someone did <a href="http://george-bush-website">big fat stupid idiot</a>

02:14:24 [Morbus]

new joho out

02:14:25 [AaronSw]

and then told people to search for big fat stupid idiot on google

02:14:36 [Morbus]

yeah, i heard of that.

02:14:36 [AaronSw]

and guess what came up first? ;)

02:16:55 [Morbus]

i've used the same address for about five years. not so good :)

02:17:09 [sbp]

yeah, you should rotate

02:17:28 [Morbus]

four years old and no longer used

02:19:19 [Morbus]

man, there's a huge orgy going on in #opensourcesex

02:19:31 [Morbus]

hehehe

02:19:32 [Morbus]

perverts

02:20:01 [sbp]

* sbp is laughing quite hard at the moment

02:20:05 [Morbus]

hehehehe

02:25:02 [Morbus]

god, i've been answering email for the four hours, and its really starting to drag

02:25:14 [sbp]

send me one, send me one!

02:25:32 [Morbus]

um. ok.

02:25:34 [Morbus]

hold on.

02:25:38 [Morbus]

what's your email?

02:25:45 [sbp]

I don't know!

02:25:50 [Morbus]

heh.

02:26:18 [sbp]

SeanBert@butt.com

02:26:45 [sbp]

I wonder if that's a real email address? That would actually be quite funny

02:27:07 [sbp]

going for a job interview... "so, what's your email address?"

02:35:49 [Morbus]

see. warez doods do the letters/numbers predominantly

02:35:57 [Morbus]

z people use zzz almost exclusively as s subsititues.

02:36:02 [Morbus]

like "freddy rulllzzzz"

02:36:12 [sbp]

but aren't both groups scum? teach me

02:36:13 [Morbus]

or "jason could kick michael's butt dudezzzzz"

02:36:19 [Morbus]

i shall teach you the way.

02:36:28 [sbp]

please do, Morby-poo

02:36:28 [Morbus]

after seeing that jedi is a religion, i have decided to register my own.

02:36:35 [sbp]

Morbism?

02:36:39 [Morbus]

i call it "kiss the ass of morbus"

02:36:52 [sbp]

and you're the only member, eh?

02:36:53 [Morbus]

just like satan and the witches.

02:36:54 [sbp]

* sbp runs

02:37:24 [sbp]

anyway, you were teaching me the way?

02:37:25 [Morbus]

ah well. no more email for me tonight. i'm sick of it.

02:37:52 [sbp]

ah, I got an email. I wonder who that's from?

02:38:00 [Morbus]

heh.

02:38:03 [sbp]

could it be?!

02:38:13 [Morbus]

thats the only one of any relevance that you'd get without context.

02:38:26 [sbp]

yes! a letter from the incredible one... the most gracious leader of the new kiss ass thing: Morby!

02:38:36 [Morbus]

Morby Dick!

02:39:14 [sbp]

lol!!!

02:39:32 [AaronSw]

Ooh, now I need an email too!

02:39:36 [Morbus]

ol

02:39:40 [Morbus]

il

02:39:44 [Morbus]

outloudilaugh

02:39:55 [AaronSw]

Heheh.

02:40:03 [Morbus]

thats how an english professor chuckles ;)

02:40:37 [sbp]

too much more of this and I'm going to piss myself. Now, where'd my bathroom go...?

02:40:40 [Morbus]

you want an email aaron? k. lemme send ya one

02:40:42 [Morbus]

lol

02:42:01 [sbp]

phew: remembered at the last second that my toilet is *adjacent* the the bathroom, and not in it...

02:42:06 [sbp]

s/the/to

02:43:54 [sbp]

WTF are you talking about here: Do not imagine that Art is something designed to give gentle uplift and self - confidence. Art is not a brassiere. At least, not in the English sense. But do not forget that brassiere is French for life-jacket.

02:44:14 [Morbus]

uh.

02:44:29 [Morbus]

what do you mean?

02:45:22 [sbp]

heh: Let's ban flowers. All those pistels and stamens and pollen -- why, those wicked, wicked plants are having sex RIGHT IN FRONT OF THE CHILDREN.

02:45:26 [sbp]

cool quote engine

02:45:31 [sbp]

mean: I'm not sure

02:45:46 [Morbus]

the badthing about the quote engine is that it's not fortune based.

02:45:54 [Morbus]

been meaning to do that for a while. i got tons of new quotes to ad

02:45:55 [Morbus]

add

02:46:09 [AaronSw]

jwz's text-generating thing says some weird stuff.

02:46:17 [AaronSw]

it was plotting to blow up buildings the other day

02:46:59 [AaronSw]

what's the url for the quote engine?

02:47:08 [Morbus]

disobey/detergent/quote.htm

02:47:19 [Morbus]

sean, check out disobey/detergent/sheep.htm

02:47:39 [sbp]

"Hope you enjoy it, and don't forget to tell Morbus how you found this"

02:47:46 [sbp]

ah! I was just reading that page

02:47:47 [sbp]

weird

02:47:50 [Morbus]

heh

02:48:00 [Morbus]

sent ya an email aar

02:48:17 [sbp]

I was going to say that I found it through your site, but now I can say that you pointed me at it. It's all good

02:48:27 [Morbus]

its quicktime. you got quicktime?

02:48:35 [Morbus]

i've got so much stuff to add to the site, but no time

02:48:41 [Morbus]

all this coding mania

02:48:55 [AaronSw]

Ugh, now I actually have to read it.

02:49:05 [AaronSw]

:-)

02:49:25 [Morbus]

hey you asked

02:49:25 [sbp]

QuickTime: I should have, but it doesn't seem to be loading... perhaps I haven't installed it on this new computer yet

02:49:42 [Morbus]

its quicktime 3 format.:)

02:49:49 [Morbus]

should work in most anything nowadays

02:49:59 [AaronSw]

Heh, that email's pretty funny.

02:50:09 [Morbus]

i get crap like that every day.

02:50:32 [AaronSw]

That's what you get for keeping a wacko site. ;)

02:50:37 [Morbus]

lol

02:50:39 [deltab]

you need segregable bookmarks :-)

02:51:07 [Morbus]

heh. actually, one of the ideas in syncasaurus was that you could flag bookmarks for which computer you want them on

02:51:19 [Morbus]

so that you could have them all in the xbel, but only convert some of them for your work computer

02:51:38 [deltab]

ooh, xbel

02:51:42 [Morbus]

:)

02:51:52 [Morbus]

yeah, we just finished an xbel parser using xml::parser

02:51:57 [Morbus]

reads and writes

02:52:05 [Morbus]

and converts to ns. we're working on ie now

02:53:22 [deltab]

whenever I hear about someone doing YA-bookmark-convertor, I tell them about xbel

02:53:33 [Morbus]

well, its not just a converter.

02:53:39 [Morbus]

have i spammed you with the design doc?

02:53:46 [Morbus]

but yeah, i'm surprised how many people DON't use it.

02:53:51 [sbp]

* sbp donloads the .mov to disc...

02:54:28 [Morbus]

sean, you want me to send you my out of date "movies i have on cd"

02:54:34 [Morbus]

list/index?

02:55:34 [sbp]

Um... sure

02:55:41 [Morbus]

ok. nevermind.

02:55:50 [sbp]

no, do it! do it!

02:56:02 [Morbus]

nope. nope. i don't like your lack of enthusiasm.

02:56:07 [Morbus]

there's only one thing you can do to make me send them to you

02:56:20 [sbp]

heh! that sheep

02:56:24 [sbp]

name it

02:56:33 [Morbus]

kiss my ass

02:56:34 [Morbus]

<g>

02:57:26 [sbp]

Hmm... although I *do* want the list, weighing it up against kissing you ass makes me suggest...

02:57:30 [sbp]

that you can kiss mine :-)

02:57:48 [sbp]

that sheep is so funny!

02:58:03 [sbp]

"hey, I'll just jump into this bar here and see what happens..."

02:58:08 [Morbus]

sent

02:58:13 [Morbus]

hehehe

02:58:23 [Morbus]

yeah, thats been up there for years. its one of the more popular pages

02:58:36 [sbp]

it's a shame one can't set movies as backgrounds...

02:58:51 [Morbus]

well. you kinda can in win98

02:59:06 [sbp]

yeah, with the active desktop thing...

02:59:07 [Morbus]

just create a page that plugins the movie, then use active desktop to run that page

02:59:12 [Morbus]

yeah, exactl

02:59:30 [sbp]

but I was thinking more of a fullscreen-image thing, I need a fullscreen version!

03:00:33 [Morbus]

ah. that i don't have.

03:00:55 [sbp]

* sbp watches is again and again

03:00:59 [sbp]

s/is/it

03:01:00 [Morbus]

hheh

03:01:07 [Morbus]

whenever i'm down, i just load that movie

03:01:11 [sbp]

apple rejects RAND!: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-patentpolicy-comment/2001Oct/1488

03:01:24 [sbp]

yeah, who needs drink!

03:01:48 [Morbus]

rand, nice

03:02:03 [Morbus]

aaron, did you check out that snapper head thing? you should try it.

03:02:08 [Morbus]

i'm about to install it now

03:02:18 [AaronSw]

Yeah, but why would I want to use it? I'll just watch you.

03:02:24 [Morbus]

hehe.

03:02:29 [Morbus]

watch me talk to you.

03:02:32 [Morbus]

um. narcissist

03:02:51 [AaronSw]

i bet it wouldn't work since you're on the second monitor

03:03:10 [Morbus]

second monitor?

03:03:40 [AaronSw]

yeah, I have two

03:04:31 [Morbus]

hehehe

03:06:57 [Morbus]

i haven't found a good disktracker util for os x, so none of these are cataloged.

03:08:12 [sbp]

aw...

03:08:17 [deltab]

movie playing in the background of a web page, or of the desktop?

03:08:51 [deltab]

I stumbled across a player that does the later today

03:08:59 [deltab]

^the latter

03:09:16 [sbp]

the latter stumbled across a player that does the later today?

03:09:26 [deltab]

sbp: no

03:09:28 [sbp]

it's in the Web page...

03:09:32 [Morbus]

sean, 63.173.138.115

03:09:45 [Morbus]

what was the other one you wanted?

03:10:07 [sbp]

ah Morby, I bow before thee

03:10:11 [deltab]

sbp: ah, okay. I think I've seen Mozilla do animated backgrounds

03:10:20 [sbp]

er... the enema and Beer Baron ones would be cool :-)

03:10:34 [Morbus]

beerbaron is there

03:10:42 [Morbus]

what's the naem of the enema? location?

03:11:23 [sbp]

fireworks.mov

03:11:45 [AaronSw]

Let me know when you get that screen capture thingy running

03:11:49 [Morbus]

thats simpsons too?

03:12:05 [Morbus]

k. its downloaded.

03:12:13 [Morbus]

but i'm busy serving up movies right now ;

03:12:13 [Morbus]

)

03:12:35 [sbp]

:-)

03:12:56 [sbp]

* sbp eats Morby's bandwidth...

03:13:17 [Morbus]

my 56k bandwidth too <g>

03:13:34 [sbp]

well, me too, no no worries there...

03:13:42 [Morbus]

ah. ok

03:13:47 [Morbus]

oh right. i knew that

03:13:57 [Morbus]

i dl'd all these movies and oh so much more off this puppy ;)

03:14:27 [sbp]

ah, is this the same bollock licking puppy?

03:14:49 [Morbus]

nope.

03:14:58 [Morbus]

puppy being 56k connection

03:15:20 [deltab]

what movies?

03:15:23 [sbp]

that's what I mean: the invisible puppy

03:15:54 [Morbus]

fireworks is there

03:16:03 [Morbus]

lemme know when you're done

03:16:33 [Morbus]

deltab, seans looking through a list of movieclips i've downloaded and is leeching pieces of my simpsons collection ;)

03:16:34 [sbp]

it's still going through the first two... grgmprgmprmgh

03:16:53 [Morbus]

hmm?

03:21:16 [Morbus]

you on the first or the second?

03:22:08 [sbp]

I'm nearly finished on the second, and started on the third

03:22:31 [Morbus]

ah. ok

03:25:10 [Morbus]

whoa now kiddies

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hmm?

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03:37:09 [Morbus]

63.173.138.135:2000

03:37:12 [AaronSw]

Morbus, hold still!

03:37:15 [Morbus]

aaronSw, that's the snapperhead thing

03:37:27 [AaronSw]

Neat.

03:37:41 [Morbus]

it worked that quick? nice.

03:38:53 [Morbus]

huh.

03:38:58 [Morbus]

can't see my own damn webserver

03:39:01 [Morbus]

ie keeps dying

03:39:09 [AaronSw]

* AaronSw reads secret Morbus notes... "...ledge stockpiles"

03:39:24 [Morbus]

hehe. here. let me move that outta the way

03:39:41 [AaronSw]

cute background -- where'd you get it?

03:39:52 [Morbus]

don't remember. had it for awhile.

03:39:59 [Morbus]

i've got a load of good backgrounds.

03:40:08 [AaronSw]

Hmm, either it takes pictures badly or your irc client has a weird display bug

03:40:27 [Morbus]

well, i've got it on low low quality

03:41:38 [AaronSw]

Oooh, em's email address is there.

03:41:45 [Morbus]

gasp!

03:41:52 [Morbus]

they did warn me about privacy <g>

03:42:21 [Morbus]

he and i had a talk about ampheta, and syndic8 before it was known as syndic8

03:43:06 [Morbus]

goddamit

03:43:20 [Morbus]

oOH.

03:43:24 [Morbus]

its an ie issue. icab reaches it fine

03:43:33 [Morbus]

hey, aaronSw, have you ever had problems seeing yourself locally via ie?

03:43:44 [AaronSw]

Haven't tried.

03:45:45 [Morbus]

nope. icab doesn't work either

03:45:57 [Morbus]

Ooh. it doesn't for IP

03:46:02 [Morbus]

but does for localhost

03:46:05 [AaronSw]

You need more windows open, man

03:46:16 [Morbus]

got my email open :)

03:46:19 [AaronSw]

lol at this infinite loop in snapperhead!

03:46:26 [Morbus]

hehehehe

03:47:20 [Morbus]

you should try this.

03:47:25 [Morbus]

i lkike it. i may do this

03:48:01 [Morbus]

:D

03:48:18 [Morbus]

63.173.138.135:2000

03:48:20 [Morbus]

sean, check that out :)

03:48:30 [Morbus]

ooh. lemme turn on ituns :)

03:49:06 [sbp]

"fireworks.mov" didn't download, BTW...

03:49:25 [Morbus]

yeah, i know. you and aaronSw called a kernel panic on me :)

03:49:54 [AaronSw]

that sux

03:50:02 [Morbus]

yeah. i notice it a lot on uploading.

03:50:04 [sbp]

http://63.173.138.135:2000/ won't do anything

03:50:11 [Morbus]

try agin

03:50:23 [Morbus]

it seems to have a problem with "close to same time" connects

03:51:18 [AaronSw]

ouch, IE crashed

03:51:30 [Morbus]

quick, try sean :)

03:51:55 [sbp]

I am trying, but it's just sitting there

03:52:05 [Morbus]

yeah, i see ya coming in.

03:52:12 [Morbus]

but its not doing anything here either

03:52:16 [sbp]

lol

03:52:18 [Morbus]

:(

03:52:26 [Morbus]

wha?

03:53:20 [sbp]

still not working. What was it supposed to be doing?

03:53:44 [Morbus]

showing you a live snap from my desktop

03:53:53 [sbp]

ah

03:55:12 [Morbus]

try one more time for me

03:55:43 [sbp]

trying...

03:56:23 [Morbus]

nope. ok. gimme another sec

03:56:38 [AaronSw]

Wow, http://impressive.net/people/gerald/2001/10/11/wtc.html is weird.

03:56:57 [Morbus]

k, try it now

03:57:29 [Morbus]

ooh, that shoulda worked

03:57:33 [Morbus]

are you getting anything?

03:58:09 [sbp]

yes, that is weird

03:58:19 [sbp]

ah yes! I am

03:58:25 [Morbus]

woo. ok. good.

03:58:37 [Morbus]

they had a thing in here about "if browsers can't connect".

03:58:40 [sbp]

lol @ the note

03:58:42 [Morbus]

apparently i had to do that for ya

03:58:43 [Morbus]

:D

03:58:57 [sbp]

:-)

04:00:19 [Morbus]

ok. well, i'm out. its midnight

04:01:17 [sbp]

yeah, I'm tired too

04:01:28 [Morbus]

aaron, this is a neat thing. get it.

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04:01:42 [AaronSw]

Heh, what a closing line!

04:04:19 [AaronSw]

I better get to sleep too

04:04:28 [AaronSw]

g'nite y'all

04:04:45 [sbp]

c'ya

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ooh: http://www.gnu.org/directory/AmphetaDesk.html

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12:10:01 [AaronSw]

cool

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morning aaron

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[GlobalNotice] Hi all. Services will be back up in a moment, accompanied by the usual splits. Thanks for your patience.

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17:50:27 [AaronSw]

Words for a standards body to live by:

17:50:37 [AaronSw]

We will write specs, but we write specs only to write code.

17:50:45 [AaronSw]

We will do things wrong, and we will ship them, and we will keep on shipping them until they are done Right.

17:50:53 [AaronSw]

He who writes the code makes the rules.

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17:54:39 [AaronSw]

'lo

17:54:49 [sbp]

'i

17:54:56 [sbp]

Morbus: '

17:55:15 [AaronSw]

?

17:55:22 [sbp]

', '!

17:55:32 [sbp]

anyway...

17:55:58 [AaronSw]

* AaronSw looks up res ipsa loquitur

17:56:13 [sbp]

"the matter speaks for itself"

17:56:43 [AaronSw]

res ipsa loquitur n : a rule of evidence whereby the negligence of an alleged wrongdoer can be inferred from the fact that the accident happened

17:57:28 [sbp]

nope, that's an incorrect definition

17:57:34 [sbp]

[[[

17:57:34 [sbp]

res ipsa loquitur - Latin. "the thing speaks for itself"

17:57:40 [sbp]

]]] - http://www.domainhandbook.com/resipsa.html

17:57:41 [AaronSw]

You're arguing with wordnet?

17:57:47 [sbp]

it's a very well known phrase

17:57:55 [AaronSw]

Wordnet is the font of all knowledge.

17:58:03 [AaronSw]

:)

17:58:14 [sbp]

well, the definition makes sense, but it that's only an example of its use within the legal context

17:58:31 [sbp]

which is where it is often used... but the general definition is more widely known

17:58:36 [sbp]

anyhoo...

17:58:37 [sbp]

Gotta run

17:59:28 [AaronSw]

That was quick.

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18:54:29 [AaronSw]

hi morbo

18:55:03 [AaronSw]

* AaronSw is trying to make up a new word to use as the name for his meshy-plexy project

18:55:32 [Morbus]

you want my help?

18:56:19 [AaronSw]

If you want... I guess I'm not very good at making up words.

18:56:38 [Morbus]

call it the teshmesh.

18:56:44 [Morbus]

it'll be an injoke concerning tesh and storyserver

18:56:45 [Morbus]

:)

18:56:57 [AaronSw]

heheh... what's tesh, tho?

18:57:15 [Morbus]

john tesh. he sued storyserver cos "it wasn't doing what they promised".

18:57:28 [AaronSw]

Ah, right, I remember that.

18:58:37 [AaronSw]

hmm... flow, mesh, plex, giga, inter, triple, tuple...

18:59:17 [AaronSw]

hmm, mowplesh

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18:59:26 [AaronSw]

sbp, just in time!

18:59:37 [AaronSw]

I'm trying to make up a new word for my plexy-meshy thing

18:59:41 [sbp]

great!

18:59:41 [Morbus]

meshine

18:59:43 [sbp]

for what?

18:59:43 [AaronSw]

I'm using flow, mesh, plex, giga, inter, triple, tuple...

18:59:45 [sbp]

great!

18:59:47 [sbp]

brb...

18:59:49 [Morbus]

hehe

19:00:01 [Morbus]

meshtropic

19:00:05 [AaronSw]

heh

19:00:08 [Morbus]

meshopotamia <g>

19:00:11 [Morbus]

hey, that's a good one.

19:00:16 [AaronSw]

Heheh.

19:00:23 [AaronSw]

meshopotomaus

19:00:26 [Morbus]

lol

19:00:29 [Morbus]

yeah!

19:00:34 [Morbus]

that'd go along with my syncasaurus!

19:00:35 [Morbus]

<g>

19:00:41 [Morbus]

dude, i say that one.

19:00:42 [Morbus]

:)

19:00:56 [AaronSw]

Heheh, but it sounds too fat and dumb.

19:01:24 [Morbus]

sooo?

19:01:32 [sbp]

Mr. Flow

19:01:37 [Morbus]

if you believe in your product, you give it a dumb name and make people like it.

19:01:40 [Morbus]

amazon. fat brain.

19:01:44 [Morbus]

what the hell do those mean?

19:01:52 [Morbus]

amazon sounds like a disease ridden river that people shit in.

19:01:54 [AaronSw]

fat brain makes sense.

19:01:58 [AaronSw]

tunatoes!

19:01:58 [Morbus]

but no! it's the world's biggest book store.

19:02:02 [AaronSw]

* AaronSw owns tunatoes.com

19:02:09 [sbp]

gigaflex!

19:02:11 [Morbus]

tunatoes? why do yoy own that?

19:02:17 [Morbus]

i own severebeating.com :)

19:02:30 [AaronSw]

i bought it for a friend who was enamored with the word

19:02:42 [AaronSw]

gigaplesh

19:02:49 [AaronSw]

pleshine

19:02:58 [Morbus]

meshtex

19:02:58 [AaronSw]

gigaflex is good...

19:03:16 [Morbus]

meshom and gomorrah

19:03:18 [AaronSw]

texmex!

19:03:27 [Morbus]

moilmesh for the jewish folk <g>

19:03:27 [AaronSw]

:)

19:03:34 [Morbus]

hehehe. texmex.

19:04:12 [AaronSw]

interplesh

19:04:28 [AaronSw]

that's not bad, actually.

19:04:42 [Morbus]

i'm not sure i like the l.

19:04:48 [Morbus]

i see inter and think of r or t.

19:04:56 [Morbus]

interstate, interpret, etc.

19:05:16 [AaronSw]

the l?

19:05:20 [AaronSw]

oh, i see

19:05:26 [AaronSw]

hmm, gigaflex is already used

19:05:37 [AaronSw]

metaplesh

19:05:38 [Morbus]

meshturbate

19:05:42 [sbp]

lol

19:05:44 [AaronSw]

heheh

19:05:46 [Morbus]

<g>

19:05:53 [sbp]

Aaron, how does one load N3 into n3tordf again?

19:06:05 [AaronSw]

I think it's the data parameter

19:06:09 [AaronSw]

data=...

19:06:29 [sbp]

aw man, so I have to do the form...

19:06:59 [AaronSw]

digimesh... digiplesh

19:07:55 [AaronSw]

pleshigo

19:08:04 [sbp]

POST/GET?

19:08:12 [AaronSw]

What?

19:08:20 [AaronSw]

the converter is always GET... it just converts

19:08:30 [sbp]

cool

19:08:47 [AaronSw]

sorry, it was text, not data

19:09:12 [AaronSw]

pikaplesh ;)

19:10:45 [AaronSw]

That's it! Megaplesh.

19:10:51 [AaronSw]

Hmm, maybe not.

19:10:52 [Morbus]

pikaplesh. that's good.

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19:11:15 [AaronSw]

boss walk by? ;)

19:11:19 [Morbus]

the flippin x button jumped right at me!

19:11:24 [AaronSw]

heheh

19:11:41 [Morbus]

fridays' i'm actually with the bosses clueless wife :)

19:11:57 [sbp]

data= didn't work

19:12:03 [sbp]

http://swag.webns.net/n3tordf?data=@prefix+%3A+%3C%23%3E+.%0D%0A%0D%0A%3Ax+%3Ay+%3Az+.

19:12:13 [AaronSw]

yeah, it's text

19:12:14 [AaronSw]

sorry

19:12:18 [AaronSw]

text=

19:12:19 [sbp]

O.K.

19:12:47 [AaronSw]

clueplesh

19:13:00 [AaronSw]

netplesh

19:13:10 [AaronSw]

netplesh... i like that

19:13:28 [AaronSw]

If this works, this is the word that's going to be replacing Internet, so it better be good. ;)

19:13:54 [sbp]

aw, Aaron... sort it out! http://swag.webns.net/n3tordf?text=@prefix+%3A+%3C%23%3E+.%0D%0A%0D%0A%3Ax+%3Ay+%3AZ+.

19:14:01 [sbp]

"must supply a value for uri"

19:14:33 [AaronSw]

hmm

19:15:01 [AaronSw]

try now.

19:16:20 [sbp]

now it

19:16:25 [sbp]

it's just sitting there

19:16:29 [AaronSw]

yikes, where'd all these blogspace threads come from

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* sbp cancells the browser actions...

19:16:55 [AaronSw]

* AaronSw reboots webservers

19:18:52 [sbp]

How

19:18:56 [sbp]

gmpogmgpgh

19:18:59 [sbp]

How's it doing?

19:19:05 [sbp]

I've got to move my ' button...

19:19:19 [AaronSw]

almost there...

19:19:27 [AaronSw]

boy, blogspace is getting a ton of RSS hits

19:19:41 [AaronSw]

OK, looks like it's working now

19:19:57 [sbp]

great, I'll try it...

19:20:06 [AaronSw]

wtf is nt2.interplay.com?

19:20:16 [sbp]

I've got no idea

19:20:46 [sbp]

Aaron, your thing's just sitting there staring blankly again...

19:20:54 [wendy]

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19:21:01 [sbp]

and that nt2 thing won't load either, damnit

19:21:13 [AaronSw]

it works for me

19:21:14 [sbp]

ah no, here we go

19:21:18 [sbp]

Hi Wendy

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19:21:23 [wendy]

hey there.

19:21:30 [sbp]

hi Morby

19:21:37 [Morbus]

hey there.

19:21:55 [AaronSw]

Anyone here heard of WinHttp.WinHttpRequest.5? because it's gone insane

19:22:05 [sbp]

heh:

19:22:06 [sbp]

[[[

19:22:07 [sbp]

ERROR

19:22:07 [sbp]

Required white space was missing.

19:22:08 [sbp]

]]]

19:22:22 [sbp]

ah, that'll be my fault

19:22:52 [AaronSw]

Wendy, do I know you from somewhere?

19:22:57 [AaronSw]

Wendy Chisolm?

19:22:57 [sbp]

it's still just timing out

19:23:12 [sbp]

s/Chisolm/Chisholm

19:23:19 [AaronSw]

Yeah, I knew I spelled it wrong.

19:23:31 [wendy]

Hey Aaron. We've not met.

19:23:48 [AaronSw]

Well, nice meeting you then. ;)

19:23:57 [Morbus]

neither have we wendy. any relation to dave?

19:23:58 [wendy]

yes, nice to meet you.

19:24:11 [wendy]

no, don't know any dave in the family tree.

19:24:17 [AaronSw]

so, Wendy Chisholm?

19:24:34 [Morbus]

oh. the dave i know makes great burgers/

19:24:40 [wendy]

yes, Aaron Swartz?

19:24:50 [AaronSw]

Yep.

19:25:10 [AaronSw]

See, I do know you. Welcome to our humble channel.

19:25:29 [AaronSw]

AaronSw has changed the topic to: Please give a warm welcome to today's special guest: Wendy Chisholm!

19:25:34 [sbp]

* sbp wonders how many threads he's started on WebNS...

19:25:48 [AaronSw]

* AaronSw counts

19:25:53 [sbp]

He he he

19:26:01 [Morbus]

* Morbus offers Wendy a spritzer.

19:26:06 [wendy]

lol. well folks, i'm just honored to be here. so, what's up with this n3 to rdf app?

19:26:16 [Morbus]

speech! speech! <g>

19:26:19 [AaronSw]

13, sbp

19:26:19 [sbp]

* sbp notes that this channel is logged. Use # to comment junk out

19:26:23 [sbp]

13: not bad

19:26:51 [AaronSw]

ls

19:26:54 [AaronSw]

oops

19:26:57 [Morbus]

bwahaha

19:27:09 [Morbus]

now, is that a raw ls, or an aliased one? <g>

19:27:49 [AaronSw]

raw

19:27:55 [AaronSw]

what do you alias it to?

19:28:02 [Morbus]

ls -al

19:28:55 [AaronSw]

Wendy, the app is http://swag.webns.net/n3tordf

19:29:01 [AaronSw]

and it doesn't always work so well...

19:29:25 [wendy]

so i discovered, i tried it with http://www.w3.org/2001/10/xag.n3 but I'm not sure if the problem

19:29:28 [Morbus]

Wendy, do you have a site that I can stal^H^H^H^H find out more about your work?

19:29:30 [wendy]

is w/the app or with the n3.

19:30:06 [wendy]

morbus: http://www.w3.org/ER/ or http://www.w3.org/WCAG/ or http://www.w3.org/People/wendy/

19:30:17 [sbp]

s/so well/at all

19:30:23 [wendy]

oops - first two are w3.org/WAI/ER and w3.org/WAI/WCAG/

19:30:34 [AaronSw]

oops, i really killed it there for a second

19:30:40 [Morbus]

yup, i've already got those ones bookmarked, so moving on to people/

19:31:45 [sbp]

ah! it's working

19:31:48 [sbp]

well, kind of

19:31:57 [sbp]

xmlns="file:/home/aol33/#"???

19:32:01 [Morbus]

has anyone else been mailbombed by a 9k email with "hey mom...." in the usbject line?

19:32:10 [Morbus]

i've gotten, literally, 400+ of them since i was here last night

19:32:33 [sbp]

Hmm... no. Some idiot has been sending me hundreds of "we're an offshore investment company" type emails

19:32:38 [AaronSw]

nope... not me, must be your mom

19:32:45 [sbp]

heh

19:32:56 [Morbus]

recently? like in the past day?

19:33:05 [sbp]

O.K., well I've put a form up: http://infomesh.net/2001/10/n3tordf/

19:33:05 [Morbus]

is the email full of javascirpt?

19:33:19 [sbp]

no, it's plain text, and quite well written

19:33:45 [sbp]

"Subject: Software programming and development"

19:34:33 [AaronSw]

Hmm, the annoying RSS seems to have left.

19:34:54 [sbp]

* sbp kicks his browser... now the form isn't working

19:35:02 [AaronSw]

now that i finally have my logger set up to track him... grr

19:35:17 [sbp]

perhaps it doesn't like me doing a GET with that much data?

19:35:33 [AaronSw]

ahh, perhaps -- what are you getting?

19:35:47 [AaronSw]

I think I have a limit on the amount... want me to increase it?

19:35:55 [sbp]

it's just not moving. I push "submit" and nothing happens at all

19:36:01 [sbp]

yes please, if you could

19:36:50 [wendy]

yes, must be the problem. if I cut down what trying to submit, it actually does something.

19:37:02 [sbp]

Wendy: the N3 file on the site is invalid, that

19:37:05 [sbp]

that's the problem

19:37:12 [sbp]

damn ' key...

19:37:27 [wendy]

i thought that might be the case.

19:37:33 [AaronSw]

Why don't you two just stick it at a URL?

19:37:34 [sbp]

[[[

19:37:35 [sbp]

dc:title "XHTMLTM 1.0: The Extensible HyperText Markup Language

19:37:35 [sbp]

" .

19:37:36 [AaronSw]

would it be that hard?

19:37:36 [sbp]

]]]

19:37:44 [sbp]

it is at a URL!

19:37:47 [wendy]

http://www.w3.org/2001/10/xag.n3

19:37:56 [sbp]

but a form would be very useful too...

19:38:37 [AaronSw]

Well, here you go then: http://swag.webns.net/n3tordf?uri=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.w3.org%2F2001%2F10%2Fxag.n3&from=n3

19:38:43 [AaronSw]

BadSyntax on line 349.

19:38:46 [sbp]

Hmm... and s/earl:suite/earl:id

19:38:55 [sbp]

yeah, it has a line break in the wrong place...

19:39:40 [wendy]

* wendy goes to fix...

19:40:55 [wendy]

doh! my password expired on the w3c machine.

19:40:57 [wendy]

* wendy laughs

19:41:11 [AaronSw]

sbp, is the stuff you have problems with longer than 8192 bytes?

19:42:02 [AaronSw]

W3C passwords expire?

19:42:20 [sbp]

5678

19:42:35 [sbp]

out of the cache?

19:43:43 [sbp]

this gets an 8 on the yeach-o-meter: @prefix : <#g_10_9_2001123034AM> .

19:43:53 [sbp]

and it's my fault! Oh well

19:44:44 [AaronSw]

OK, you should be able to try the long GET now.

19:46:18 [sbp]

my computer's being a bit weird, hang on a sec.

19:46:55 [sbp]

oops, I started a really worthless thread on www-amaya

19:47:07 [sbp]

well, actually, I didn't start start it, but...

19:48:21 [AaronSw]

Odd: http://www.google.com/press/zeitgeist/9-11-search.html

19:48:27 [AaronSw]

CNN was the number sept. 11 query?

19:48:36 [AaronSw]

On Google?

19:48:44 [AaronSw]

why didn't people type cnn.com instead of google.com?

19:49:30 [sbp]

I think it's actually a browser limitation

19:50:05 [AaronSw]

Ahh, you're using IE right.

19:50:17 [AaronSw]

It has a limit of 2,308, as I recall.

19:50:29 [Morbus]

hehe

19:50:41 [Morbus]

from what i know, 30% of yahoo's requests are browser urls

19:51:01 [sbp]

* sbp tries it in Mozilla...

19:51:09 [sbp]

browser URLs: heh heh

19:51:17 [AaronSw]

Aww, poor Homer: http://www.google.com/press/zeitgeist/superheroes.gif

19:51:18 [Morbus]

i had jeff fix his dns for syndic8.

19:51:32 [sbp]

I do that sometimes though: it bungs the cursor in the search box rather than the address bar

19:51:35 [AaronSw]

thanks, Morbus

19:51:37 [Morbus]

forcing me to type www each time. bach!

19:51:53 [AaronSw]

Annoyed me too

19:51:57 [sbp]

Mozilla did it, but it came up with:-

19:51:57 [sbp]

<rdf:RDF xmlns:log="http://www.w3.org/2000/10/swap/log#"

19:51:58 [sbp]

xmlns:rdf="http://www.w3.org/1999/02/22-rdf-syntax-ns#">

19:51:58 [sbp]

</rdf:RDF>

19:52:08 [AaronSw]

lol

19:52:22 [wendy]

sbp: all s/earl:suite/earl:id?

19:55:54 [sbp]

yeah, I'm currently doing it by hand: I'll send the corrected/reified version by email

19:56:03 [AaronSw]

Ouch, Polaroid went Chapter 11

19:56:09 [AaronSw]

http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/ap/20011012/bs/polaroid_bankruptcy.html

19:56:17 [wendy]

sbp: i can do it.

19:56:19 [wendy]

no worries.

19:58:31 [sbp]

too late... I took the liberty of reifying it anyway

19:58:46 [wendy]

ah. ok. well, updated teh one at w3.org

19:58:52 [sbp]

cool

19:59:33 [wendy]

still says bad char at 349.

19:59:55 [sbp]

* sbp refreshes

20:00:32 [sbp]

yeah it's still broken:-

20:00:33 [sbp]

[[[

20:00:34 [sbp]

dc:title "XHTMLTM 1.0: The Extensible HyperText Markup Language

20:00:34 [sbp]

" .

20:00:34 [sbp]

]]]

20:00:46 [sbp]

s/\n//

20:00:48 [Morbus]

that sucks for poloroid.

20:01:54 [sbp]

ugh: "The company could be sold off in its entirety or essentially stripped for parts under the supervision of a bankruptcy court."

20:02:20 [Morbus]

oh yeah, aaron, that iswipe software i pointed you too yesterday - don't try it. it sucks.

20:02:31 [AaronSw]

OK.

20:02:35 [Morbus]

ack!

20:02:43 [Morbus]

some flipping moron just sent me 30 copies of flipping sircam!

20:02:50 [Morbus]

i had disabled my filters to try out some ORBS lists.

20:03:01 [Morbus]

and now Jozef Walczak is beating me down.

20:03:06 [Morbus]

sigh. how the hell do these people know me?

20:03:19 [sbp]

'cause you're such a star, of course

20:03:20 [AaronSw]

I blame those sheep

20:03:27 [Morbus]

it must be the sheep.

20:03:28 [sbp]

yeah! always blame the sheep

20:03:30 [Morbus]

damn sheep farmers.

20:03:41 [Morbus]

wendy: http://www.disobey.com/detergent/sheep.htm

20:03:52 [sbp]

* sbp watches the video again...

20:03:58 [Morbus]

sbp, i can set up for you to get fireworks.mov tonight if you want.

20:04:08 [sbp]

I've got fireworks.mov!

20:04:16 [Morbus]

oh. which one are you missing?

20:04:18 [Morbus]

beerbaron?

20:04:37 [sbp]

I've got all the ones that you posted!

20:04:42 [sbp]

(cheers)

20:05:20 [wendy]

poor sheep.

20:05:25 [wendy]

lol

20:06:05 [sbp]

I think it's incredible how he does it *every* time I play the movie

20:06:20 [sbp]

s/he/she\/it

20:06:42 [sbp]

you think it'd learn its lesson...

20:06:44 [Morbus]

heheheh

20:08:23 [AaronSw]

Syndic8.com is really screwing up data.

20:08:34 [AaronSw]

wtf is up with http://www.syndic8.com/feedinfo.php?FeedID=2227&Section=headlines&SummaryID=64&Mode=show ?

20:08:39 [sbp]

ooh, it works now. gj, Wendy/Aaron

20:08:46 [AaronSw]

hj?

20:08:46 [sbp]

http://swag.webns.net/n3tordf?uri=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.w3.org%2F2001%2F10%2Fxag.n3&from=n3

20:08:50 [sbp]

gj

20:08:52 [AaronSw]

err, gj?

20:08:58 [sbp]

good job

20:09:06 [AaronSw]

ahh, np

20:09:14 [sbp]

:-)

20:09:26 [Morbus]

olil

20:09:45 [sbp]

* sbp plays HomerPants.mov

20:10:26 [wendy]

it works..i.e., it doesn't barf. but...where's all the data?

20:10:55 [sbp]

er... it's right there

20:11:10 [sbp]

oh, try viewing the source. What browser are you using? can it render XML?

20:11:38 [sbp]

Aaron: why so much whitespace at the top?

20:11:45 [wendy]

ah ha. ran it again. weird. hit "back" and it only gave me the text i.e., "Charles McCathieNevile...etc." ran it again, and now I get the goods.

20:11:50 [AaronSw]

the top of what?

20:12:18 [sbp]

at the top of the results. stripping the comment crud that CWM gives, perhaps?

20:12:27 [sbp]

text: weird

20:12:58 [sbp]

but note the log:quote garbage: <earl:asserts rdf:parseType="log:Quote">

20:13:18 [AaronSw]

Hmm, there's only three blank lines... not sure why they're there, tho

20:13:30 [sbp]

that's what CWM does to contexts; a kind of substitute for reification (except that in log:Quote you can group statements... aha!)

20:14:17 [sbp]

* sbp should go through the PFPS datatype stuff

20:18:17 [Morbus]

i saw someone complained about the broken rss on winerlog today

20:18:51 [sbp]

Gotta run

20:19:00 [wendy]

ciao. thx for your help.

20:19:43 [AaronSw]

c'ya

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20:28:33 [sbp]

* sbp continues to play "Love And Theft"... such a good album!

20:29:09 [AaronSw]

Oooh, NPR "On the Media"... why do they have to put it on at such an awful time?

20:29:57 [sbp]

Hmm... http://logicerror.com/dateUri

20:30:23 [AaronSw]

I like Dan Connolly's latest message to rdfcore-wg

20:30:55 [AaronSw]

Eek, these Anthrax letters sound awful.

20:31:16 [AaronSw]

Grr, I thought I stopped following the news.

20:31:53 [Morbus]

yeah, i know.

20:31:59 [Morbus]

maybe that rosenfeld guy sent me anthrax.

20:34:14 [Morbus]

ohno!

20:34:18 [Morbus]

livejournal is a pay site now.

20:34:38 [Morbus]

http://www.theendoffree.com

20:35:04 [AaronSw]

Eek.

20:35:24 [Morbus]

that's gonna stop new victims to my ... .. "habit".

20:36:08 [Morbus]

well, the source code is free. maybe you and i should start up a free version.

20:36:28 [sbp]

and I'll sit back and watch you both

20:36:28 [AaronSw]

You can go do that.

20:36:40 [Morbus]

well, fine, you guys just let the world charge ya.

20:36:44 [Morbus]

did you know cable used to be free?

20:37:23 [sbp]

not over here

20:37:23 [AaronSw]

Really?

20:37:44 [Morbus]

that's what i've read - tv used to be entirely free.

20:38:07 [AaronSw]

Yeah, back before cable.

20:38:56 [sbp]

I don't think it's ever been free over here. BBC insist on charging license fees rather than advertising

20:42:25 [Morbus]

good fun anthrax news on scripting.com

20:44:35 [AaronSw]

Ooh, Winnie the Pooh anniversary

20:44:47 [Morbus]

and four year anniversary of john denver's death.

20:44:54 [Morbus]

not that i care - heard it on the oldfolks radio

20:46:16 [AaronSw]

Woohoo! http://www.macslash.com/article.pl?sid=01/10/10/1828238

20:46:23 [AaronSw]

Hacking IE 5.1 To Search Google From The Address Bar

20:46:43 [Morbus]

hey cool

20:47:20 [Morbus]

done anything new or exciting with os x?

20:47:33 [sbp]

Hmm... http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,36218,00.html

20:48:09 [Morbus]

one thousand and one.

20:48:13 [Morbus]

and from sbp no less. sigh.

20:50:16 [sbp]

pardon me?

20:50:31 [Morbus]

the bert thing.

20:51:17 [AaronSw]

We even talked about it last night

20:51:40 [sbp]

oh. well sooooooory

20:51:53 [AaronSw]

whee, this google address bar rocks

20:52:04 [sbp]

aw, I want the google address bar thing!

20:52:53 [Morbus]

download the google toolbar then.

20:53:03 [AaronSw]

Wow, the Sean Palmer fan site: http://www.geocities.com/nonogyor/

20:53:51 [sbp]

alas, no Sean B. Palmer fan sites that I know of yet

20:54:07 [AaronSw]

He changed his name from Tony Manero just so he could be like you!

20:54:13 [sbp]

great!

20:54:52 [Morbus]

hehehehe: "In three days, SirCam -- the "I send you this file in order to have your advice" worm -- will go into phase two, randomly deleting files from infected users' hard drives. I figger that if you're still infected by now, chances are that all your important files have already been emailed to your addressbook, so you've got a backup, right? Link Discuss "

20:55:06 [sbp]

I wonder if it's in the registry (the search thing...)

20:56:46 [sbp]

nope. bugger

20:57:01 [Morbus]

http://www.v-2.org/articles/fengshui.html

20:59:54 [AaronSw]

Ugh, is that an iframe?

21:00:08 [Morbus]

i dunno.

21:00:36 [AaronSw]

it's some stupid css trick, looks like

21:01:02 [AaronSw]

Invader Zim Quote: I hate [it]! I HATE [IT] SO MUCH!

21:01:09 [Morbus]

yesss!

21:01:12 [Morbus]

i love invader zim.

21:01:23 [AaronSw]

That's the only episode I've seen.

21:01:26 [Morbus]

although nick isn't releasing any dvd's/videos according to my contact at slave labor

21:01:39 [AaronSw]

it was funny

21:01:45 [AaronSw]

slave labor?

21:01:59 [Morbus]

yeah, jhnonen vasquez is the creator of invader zim.

21:02:06 [AaronSw]

ah, cool

21:02:17 [Morbus]

he has done johnny the homicidal maniac and squee for slave labor graphics. both comics.

21:03:16 [AaronSw]

I will not let my son die because of a freak piggy accident!

21:03:22 [Morbus]

hehehehe.

21:03:41 [Morbus]

its funny. if you've read squee/jthm, you'll see snippets all over invader zim.

21:03:45 [Morbus]

like the question sleep campaign, and so on.

21:08:01 [sbp]

aha: http://www.google.com/options/defaults.html

21:08:44 [AaronSw]

Hmm, people disagree on question sleep at http://www.eeggs.com/items/28997.html

21:09:36 [Morbus]

i dunno. i'm sticking to my guns. i'll investigate tonight. remind me :)

21:09:44 [Morbus]

i have most of his stuff.

21:11:17 [Morbus]

heheh http://www.livejournal.com/users/jthm

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21:13:03 [AaronSw]

heheh

21:13:15 [sbp]

crap, all that and it didn't work

21:13:52 [AaronSw]

what didn't?

21:14:04 [sbp]

the Google search bar thingy

21:14:12 [AaronSw]

hmm

21:15:06 [Morbus]

http://mac.scripting.com/

21:15:21 [AaronSw]

yeah, that's where i found the hack for ie

21:15:31 [Morbus]

ah. i just saw it on macslash.com

21:17:36 [Morbus]

anyone played with movabletype yet?

21:20:49 [Morbus]

hey aaron, you know those colored menus we've been seeing in osx?

21:20:57 [AaronSw]

yep

21:20:58 [Morbus]

John Schilling (of StimpSoft) reminds (see previous posting) us: "This is an issue with applications made with REALbasic 3.5 or lower. Any application made with REALbasic below version 3.5.1 can display this problem."

21:21:10 [Morbus]

stimpsoft is the guy who makes that desktop thing we played with last night

21:21:18 [AaronSw]

Ah... blame realbasic -- that always works ;)

21:21:22 [Morbus]

hehe

21:21:35 [Morbus]

apparently, recompiling with 351 makes em go awya

21:23:37 [AaronSw]

Hmm, you played with movabletype?

21:24:11 [Morbus]

not yet. it's not OSI, so i'm kinda standing back and seeing how things play out.

21:24:24 [Morbus]

i don't like contributing perl code to non-OS projects. it just seems so wrong.

21:24:55 [AaronSw]

heh

21:25:27 [Morbus]

SEND ME THE COFFEE! http://www.ananova.com/news/story/sm_420650.html

21:26:35 [sbp]

hey, great

21:26:49 [AaronSw]

Ananova has the weirdest stories.

21:26:53 [Morbus]

yeah! now i can pursue my agenda over a cup of breast enlarging coffee.

21:27:04 [sbp]

lol

21:32:58 [sbp]

Marge: Who's using the powertools?

21:33:06 [sbp]

Homer: I dunno. Some guy, I guess

21:33:56 [sbp]

Gotta run

21:34:29 [AaronSw]

c'ya

21:36:56 [sbp]

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21:38:02 [wendy]

ciao. gotta walk the dogs.

21:38:08 [Morbus]

scratch them for me

21:38:16 [wendy]

:)

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21:39:12 [Morbus]

ooh. moz 95 is out

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21:41:17 [Morbus]

http://www.electrotank.com/games/playGames.cfm?gameID=34

21:41:47 [sbp]

http://www.audiogalaxy.com/articles/index.php?a=153&&&

21:42:15 [Morbus]

uh. you a country fan?

21:44:12 [AaronSw]

the AI for that air hockey really sucks

21:44:18 [sbp]

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21:45:18 [Morbus]

hehe.

21:45:21 [Morbus]

i know, it just drifts around.

21:45:31 [Morbus]

can't wait until they add two realtime players though

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Hmm, are there more dead people than living ones? In the history of humanity, I mean.

21:57:09 [AaronSw]

I'd suspect so, but with such astounding growth rates you never know.

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topic is: Please give a warm welcome to today's special guest: Wendy Chisholm!

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logster, die die die

22:06:57 [AaronSw]

I'm logging. I don't understand 'die die die', AaronSw. Try /msg logster help

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topic is: Please give a warm welcome to today's special guest: Wendy Chisholm!

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Users on #swhack: logster AaronSw deltab

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22:08:12 [AaronSw]

Note to self: remember to chmod +x file sbefore executing them.

22:08:32 [AaronSw]

hmm, let me turn off auto-opping

22:08:53 [AaronSw]

OK, try now.

22:10:02 [AaronSw]

sbp?

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+v?

22:13:54 [AaronSw]

"voiced"

22:14:00 [AaronSw]

Well, it's better than being opped

22:14:05 [sbp]

ugh, and I can't even devoice myself!

22:14:07 [AaronSw]

On my machine you're a beautiful neon green ;)

22:14:12 [sbp]

put back autoops, could ya?

22:14:25 [AaronSw]

but you keep disopping!

22:14:34 [sbp]

yeah, that's fine

22:14:42 [AaronSw]

it's annoyinh

22:14:45 [AaronSw]

err annoying

22:14:48 [sbp]

I don't mind: if I wanted to, I could do it automatically

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so is being voices

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err voiced

22:15:07 [AaronSw]

I'll switch it to nothing.

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Try now.

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can you still op yourself?

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Aw...

22:16:07 [sbp]

nope

22:16:18 [AaronSw]

Hmm, that sucks

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Try now.

22:16:51 [AaronSw]

Heh, http://www.magic-mushrooms.de/mm/os_hifi.mp3 is funny

22:16:58 [AaronSw]

"Open Source" ist der offizielle Song des LinuxTag 2001 und auf der OpenMusic-CD des LinuxTag e.V. erhältlich. Nähere Infos unter www.linuxtag.org.

22:17:19 [sbp]

heh

22:18:23 [AaronSw]

Hmm, I wonder why it never auto-ops me.

22:18:44 [sbp]

I would guess that you set it not to?

22:19:02 [AaronSw]

Nope... I don't think you can.

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* AaronSw creates http://blogspace.com/swhack/

22:21:23 [sbp]

cool!

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the link works...

22:21:43 [sbp]

yes, it does

22:21:47 [AaronSw]

hey -- they're two of you!

22:21:49 [sbp]

oh that's funny...

22:21:54 [SeanP]

what's funny?

22:21:59 [AaronSw]

LOL!

22:22:05 [sbp]

the ordering in the windows is different. One is delayed

22:22:16 [SeanP]

oh, I see... yes, that it weird

22:22:19 [AaronSw]

the ordering?

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s/it/is

22:22:32 [SeanP]

yeah, that's what I meant

22:22:39 [sbp]

yes: the ordering of the statements

22:22:51 [SeanP]

<sbp> yes, it does

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<AaronSw> hey -- they're two of you!

22:22:53 [SeanP]

<sbp> oh that's funny...

22:22:53 [SeanP]

<SeanP> what's funny?

22:22:59 [sbp]

<sbp> yes, it does

22:23:01 [sbp]

<sbp> oh that's funny...

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<AaronSw> hey -- they're two of you!

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<SeanP> what's funny?

22:23:13 [AaronSw]

Heh, that's IRC for you.

22:23:20 [sbp]

actually that's a crap example... but it's quite different: take my word for it

22:23:29 [SeanP]

yeah Sean, you dumbwad

22:23:38 [sbp]

hey, you're the dumbwad!

22:23:50 [SeanP]

yeah: that's what I just said

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he he he

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this reminds me of the Fraiser where he does a kind of theraputic excercise, and has himself on the phone

22:24:46 [SeanP]

that's funny, it reminds me of that too

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* AaronSw giggles hysterically

22:25:03 [sbp]

well, whad'dya know

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so SeanP, like The Simpsons?

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I suppose so

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good

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ah, now who are we, eh?

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Oh dear.

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he he he

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ooh, cool quit message!

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22:28:07 [deltab]

AaronSw: I read somewhere that there's about thirty dead to each living

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there: some degree of normality

22:28:29 [AaronSw]

Ah, thanks... so at our current growth rate it'd take...

22:28:35 [AaronSw]

hmm

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beats me

22:28:47 [deltab]

heh

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sbp has changed the topic to: Please give a warm welcome to today's special guest: logster!

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* sbp plays "Do You Know The Way To San Jose?"

22:32:14 [AaronSw]

hehe @ topic

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22:34:26 [sbp]

Morby!!!

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* sbp does the Morby dance

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* sbp decides to refrain from doing the Morby dance

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sbp has changed the topic to: Do the Morby! Do do do do do do do do do, do do do do do...

22:37:30 [AaronSw]

Heheh.

22:42:46 [Morbus]

you know, i leave you guys for two minutes to make some flipping chicken things, and you do dances.

22:42:50 [Morbus]

i like being a tribal god.

22:42:59 [sbp]

lol

22:43:11 [sbp]

I won't ask what chicken things...

22:43:29 [Morbus]

actually, they're spicy shrimp things. frozen food.

22:43:48 [sbp]

ah of course: shrimp, chicken, same thing

22:43:55 [deltab]

"Flipping Chicken Things"? don't you get those from KFC?

22:44:09 [Morbus]

hehe

22:44:43 [Morbus]

my gf is a state employee so we get 10% off at KFC

22:45:37 [Morbus]

you two should join a group and pish files to ya

22:45:44 [Morbus]

you having problems with ag anymore?

22:45:54 [AaronSw]

pish files to ya?

22:45:59 [Morbus]

push files to each other

22:45:59 [sbp]

ag?

22:46:15 [AaronSw]

nope, AG is doing pretty well... at least until they get sued (which according to rumors should be in two weeks)

22:46:28 [sbp]

why would we want to do that? :-)

22:46:33 [sbp]

AG sued: ugh

22:47:23 [Morbus]

ok. remind me in 13 minutes my flipping chicken/shrimp thingies are done

22:50:44 [Morbus]

aaron, we need to write a program that monitors the windows/favorites folder, or any other bookmark, and automatically blogs bookmarks you put nito your root to a site

22:50:52 [Morbus]

i add bookmarks like the devil, but never have time to blog a comment on them

22:51:13 [AaronSw]

Yeah, that should be a syncasaurus feature

22:51:27 [Morbus]

i'm thinking so, yes

22:52:11 [AaronSw]

Seen on another channel: "I eat food two, three times every day, and I still get hungry, I just can't kick the habit"

22:52:14 [Morbus]

you knwo what 've always wanted.

22:52:20 [Morbus]

i want a smart TO-DO program.

22:52:21 [AaronSw]

No, I don't actually.

22:52:29 [Morbus]

something where i could throw in all the stuff to do, and sections to go with them.

22:52:38 [sbp]

it's called the WWW

22:52:38 [Morbus]

and possible durations on how long they'll take.

22:52:41 [AaronSw]

That'd be nice... I've been using omnioutliner

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I know there're lots of webbased ones

22:53:02 [Morbus]

and then, when it sees that i haven't worked on asection for awhile, it would say 'hey! devilshat is old! do this. it'll only take you 20 minutes"

22:53:04 [AaronSw]

just wait until AppleScript Studio comes out! I can code all these apps!

22:53:11 [Morbus]

no shit! you and me both.

22:53:15 [AaronSw]

yeah, that'd be awesome

22:53:20 [Morbus]

omnioutliner any good?

22:53:32 [AaronSw]

it's ok, but not good enough for me to pay up

22:53:35 [AaronSw]

i mean, it's a good outliner

22:53:41 [Morbus]

i hear ya.

22:53:43 [AaronSw]

but it just doesn't do everything i need in a todo app

22:54:41 [Morbus]

no. i rarely download stuff that's not freeware anyways.

22:54:46 [Morbus]

bwahaha.

22:54:48 [Morbus]

ah twell

22:58:54 [sbp]

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ah, space

22:59:26 [AaronSw]

hmm, all sorts of cool stuff to write if only applescript studio was out

22:59:41 [Morbus]

don't tell me there's not a bit of difference between a null and a space, because that's exactly how much there is

22:59:49 [Morbus]

i know. wish they would hurry up.

22:59:57 [Morbus]

not that i know applescript, but i'll learn anything if the power feels good

23:00:08 [AaronSw]

Oh, I was just going to use Python with it. ;-)

23:00:35 [Morbus]

oh? it ho... .. well, then, that's hella cool.

23:00:55 [Morbus]

i wonder if it will make classic appls ;)

23:01:01 [AaronSw]

Is there a Perl OSA?

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Nah, we'll just make you learn Python ;)

23:01:19 [Morbus]

... i dunna what OSA entails

23:02:41 [Morbus]

so, aaron, teach me how to outline here.

23:02:47 [Morbus]

i don't grasp the main concept.

23:02:53 [Morbus]

what's the "right" way to do this sort of thing

23:03:02 [AaronSw]

Umm... type return to go down, tab to go in.

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shift-tab to go out

23:03:26 [AaronSw]

you create nesting lists

23:04:51 [sbp]

er, Morby, your thing is burnt

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oh shit!

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oh fuck

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um. someone call the firedept. i gotta run downstairs

23:05:36 [sbp]

aren't you glad you've got me here to point out these things? :-)

23:05:44 [Morbus]

heh. justkidding. i took them out a bit ago.

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he he he

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form: 3501A-C00-002106

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page pro: 2801a-c00-091108 Registration 06244393

23:06:11 [AaronSw]

wrong window

23:06:53 [Morbus]

what, you don't like my internal ID scheme for webpage identitifaction?

23:07:10 [AaronSw]

it's just too long

23:07:25 [Morbus]

i started out with md5.

23:07:36 [sbp]

I was just about to jokingly suggest that :-)

23:07:45 [Morbus]

heh

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shame there isn't a hash for hashes

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in perl there is :)

23:08:23 [Morbus]

er, a hash of hashes, rather

23:08:55 [AaronSw]

heh

23:09:28 [AaronSw]

that todo app would rock, morbus... i'm always feeling lame but don't know what i should work on

23:09:51 [Morbus]

exactly.

23:09:52 [AaronSw]

OK, well I better sign off now -- you guys think up good names for me while i'm gone.

23:09:56 [Morbus]

i mean, i have all my todo in an excel file.

23:10:05 [Morbus]

but it just stares at me, and indeciison win

23:10:11 [sbp]

goobomorekozo

23:10:14 [Morbus]

i want some uncaring ai to say "slave, morbus! slave!"

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supermesh

23:10:23 [AaronSw]

heheh... i was in Stickies... now omnioutliner

23:10:26 [sbp]

meshozoid

23:10:28 [Morbus]

I've alwats like Dave.

23:10:29 [sbp]

meshzilla

23:10:33 [Morbus]

change your name from AaronSw to Dave

23:10:35 [sbp]

infozilla

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infozoid

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infomesh

23:10:42 [sbp]

oh, hang on...

23:10:45 [AaronSw]

not info -- data

23:10:49 [Morbus]

i love stickes :)

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datafudge

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datariffic

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datashaft

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data or datan't he'

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dataoid

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databation.

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dataculation

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datox

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c'yas

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c'ya

23:12:31 [Morbus]

aaron, you keep omnithingy open all the time?

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c'

23:12:35 [AaronSw]

yep

23:12:51 [Morbus]

ok good.

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least its stable :)

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wb

23:19:24 [Morbus]

you really mean that?

23:19:31 [sbp]

nah

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just saying it to make conversation

23:19:44 [Morbus]

ok. phew. that'd be messed up

23:19:55 [sbp]

how so?

23:20:35 [Morbus]

well, i mean, you should be welcoming my face, not my shoulder blades

23:21:02 [sbp]

wf

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doesn't work as well... :-)

23:21:22 [sbp]

WFM, a new acronym!

23:21:41 [Morbus]

heheh

23:21:50 [Morbus]

you've got the opposing steeples on each end

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sbp has changed the topic to: #swhack the word and acronym machine (TWAAM: giblify)

23:22:02 [Morbus]

if there was a backwards F, we'd be set

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sbp has changed the topic to: #swhack: the word and acronym machine (TWAAM - giblify)

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backwards F... yes...

23:22:32 [sbp]

will a Y do?

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or a 3

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but a 3 is a backwards E, you see

23:22:52 [Morbus]

i was thinking 3, but all i can think of is that horrific heart thing

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<3

23:23:10 [sbp]

we could do something like W3EM

23:23:41 [Morbus]

that seems ok. we need an old terminal font for that truly to work well though

23:23:47 [sbp]

yes

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3WME

23:24:23 [sbp]

Free Willy, my elephant!

23:24:29 [Morbus]

ooh, thats deliciously chaotic n my machine

23:24:40 [Morbus]

oh man, i have a funny story about free willy

23:24:47 [Morbus]

i've always made fun of free willy, same with my gf

23:24:56 [Morbus]

so we're sitting arund on a weekend, bored, flipping channels.

23:25:02 [sbp]

you've made fun of your gf?

23:25:10 [Morbus]

and we see this movie. and it didn't look that bad. we watch, and we're like hey, this isn't that bad.

23:25:30 [Morbus]

welp, it was flipping free willy 3. we almost jumped out the window in an attempt to resolve our flagrant violation of the pathetic police

23:26:11 [sbp]

wow, that is quite shocking. How long did you watch it for?

23:26:19 [Morbus]

about 15 minutes.

23:26:40 [Morbus]

when i think back, that's a long time to be under the evil spell of whale adulation.

23:26:43 [sbp]

* sbp plays "Old Love"

23:29:05 [sbp]

yes, I agree

23:29:29 [sbp]

any other films/music/TV that you particularly hate? I'm always ready to moan about things

23:29:53 [Morbus]

hmm... well, spice world. :)

23:30:02 [sbp]

well, of course...

23:30:15 [Morbus]

and dude where's my car.

23:30:35 [sbp]

yeah! I only saw the trailers of that, but man...

23:30:51 [Morbus]

there's so much i dislike :)

23:31:15 [Morbus]

aaronSw: when you come back, this looks pretty good: http://www.mindlube.com/screenshots/

23:31:21 [Morbus]

called "slacker"

23:31:29 [sbp]

how about: Temptation Island, the Dixie Chicks, and Yanni

23:31:37 [Morbus]

well, temptation island was entertaining

23:32:09 [Morbus]

the dixie chicks sing songs about killing boyfriends or something, and people cheer.

23:32:17 [Morbus]

like happy country racist bigot sort of people.

23:32:19 [sbp]

considering that it's one of only a few mainstream shows to have been *sooooooo* crap that they had to take the piss out of it on The Simpsons...

23:32:50 [sbp]

yeah, they just suck [full stop]

23:33:08 [sbp]

Britney Spears! Christina Aguilera... aaaaaargh!

23:33:30 [sbp]

Pink Floyd

23:33:40 [Morbus]

nsync,

23:33:45 [sbp]

yeah

23:34:30 [Morbus]

i have to defecate. i shall return.

23:35:26 [sbp]

lol

23:39:20 [sbp]

that'd be good as your quit message

23:39:57 [Morbus]

heh

23:41:50 [sbp]

<nick_kew> 1580 invalid pages at www.w3.org

23:41:52 [sbp]

<sbp> but only 5000-ish pages? I think it's missing a few

23:41:52 [sbp]

<sbp> still, that's a 1/5 ratio of invalid pages. Not suprising

23:42:13 [Morbus]

heh

23:43:46 [sbp]

(taking into account the "ish" and the historical archives)

23:44:59 [Morbus]

wow. 419 servers on carracho. its really growing

23:46:06 [sbp]

that's the new P2P Napster-esque thing, yes?

23:46:56 [Morbus]

not really. its been around for a year and a half or so.

23:47:10 [sbp]

wow, total amount of files: Total Files: 694

23:47:16 [Morbus]

it just was never popular.

23:47:17 [sbp]

- http://weasel.carracho.com/

23:47:17 [Morbus]

what's that?

23:47:25 [sbp]

yeah, seems so...

23:47:26 [Morbus]

oooh. well, that's new, yeah.

23:47:28 [sbp]

dunno

23:47:33 [Morbus]

but i'm talking about the client/server stuff

23:47:35 [Morbus]

not the weasel

23:48:00 [sbp]

ah