IRC log of openacs on 2001-11-26

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00:00:14 [markd2]

was this the great anti^H^H^H^H social?

00:03:39 [davb]

I meant here, alot of people are logged in, appartenly still asleep though.

00:04:00 [markd2]

ah

00:04:11 [markd2]

I've gotten one thwapaphylax

00:04:25 [markd2]

and the obligatory connect/disconnect messages from aaronsw

00:04:38 [AaronSw]

thwap

00:04:45 [markd2]

heh

00:04:59 [markd2]

figured you'd hear your name

00:05:01 [markd2]

and reappear, Kibo style

00:05:19 [AaronSw]

Actually, i'd been reading #openacs before then

00:05:21 [AaronSw]

* AaronSw is looking for Disk Copy >= 6.4

00:05:41 [markd2]

hey - have you used netalk on a linux box, and connected to it from os/x?

00:05:53 [markd2]

I'm working on that now, with no joy

00:06:21 [AaronSw]

Nope, sorry.

00:06:38 [markd2]

* markd2 returns to the nose grinder

00:07:05 [Psychephylax]

* Psychephylax thwaps© davb

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00:07:40 [davb]

aigh

00:07:42 [davb]

hu

00:07:43 [davb]

hi

00:08:26 [Psychephylax]

hu hi ho?

00:09:26 [davb]

Psychephylax: did you go on your trip?

00:15:11 [Psychephylax]

yeah

00:19:24 [Psychephylax]

Roll call!

00:20:01 [markd2]

dinner rolls!

00:20:12 [Psychephylax]

Mmmm@!

00:20:25 [Psychephylax]

I almost got arrested :-<

00:20:32 [markd2]

LOL

00:20:59 [Psychephylax]

it's not funny

00:21:23 [markd2]

I knew that "I *heart* Bin-ladin" T-Shirt would be bad news

00:21:48 [Psychephylax]

lol no

00:21:53 [Psychephylax]

it was a folding knife in my pocket

00:22:53 [markd2]

* markd2 sighs

00:23:04 [Psychephylax]

i brought it with me by total freakish accident

00:23:05 [markd2]

balloons are also forbidden from airplanes

00:23:17 [markd2]

and little cross-stitch needles are banned as well

00:23:32 [markd2]

although if you have a black-belt in Imgonnagetchu, you're welcome to board the plane

00:23:33 [markd2]

it's nuts

00:23:40 [Psychephylax]

lol

00:23:42 [Psychephylax]

Yeah tell me about it

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00:32:14 [davb]

* davb goes to play games, see ya all tomorrow!

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00:33:27 [Psychephylax]

hi?

00:33:55 [markd2]

'lo

00:34:14 [Psychephylax]

heh

00:34:16 [Psychephylax]

lost service

00:35:00 [Psychephylax]

Anyone here a certified scuba diver?

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00:41:18 [markd2]

not I

00:54:36 [Psychephylax]

Dang

00:54:40 [Psychephylax]

Have you ever gone?

00:54:45 [markd2]

nope

00:54:53 [Psychephylax]

Bah!

00:54:55 [Psychephylax]

You have to try it

00:55:11 [markd2]

do the masks fit over glasses?

00:55:18 [Psychephylax]

no

00:55:22 [Psychephylax]

I had to take mine off

00:55:25 [Psychephylax]

:)

00:55:29 [markd2]

All I'd be able to see would be the end of my nose

00:55:32 [markd2]

* markd2 is *quite* nearsighted

00:55:33 [Psychephylax]

heh

00:55:37 [Psychephylax]

so am I

00:56:03 [Psychephylax]

I can't read the text on this monitor if I take my glasses off unless it's like font size 20+

00:56:39 [Psychephylax]

my bad

00:56:45 [Psychephylax]

Unless it's 72 and it's still blurry

00:57:43 [Psychephylax]

Underwater you see better

00:57:51 [markd2]

I need a 200 point size ot see

00:57:58 [markd2]

without glasses

00:57:58 [markd2]

(really!)

00:58:04 [markd2]

-14 diopter correction

00:58:12 [markd2]

and at 200 it's blurry

00:59:05 [Psychephylax]

damn

00:59:26 [Psychephylax]

Well, I was going to say

01:00:23 [Psychephylax]

If you get into scuba diving and don't like contacts, they can make a mask for you that has a corrective glass so you're back to 20/20 or whatever you want

01:00:38 [markd2]

* markd2 ponders the cost

01:00:47 [markd2]

my glasses are like $350

01:00:52 [Psychephylax]

heh

01:01:01 [markd2]

super-duper high density resin

01:01:05 [markd2]

if they were glass, they'd crush my nose

01:01:08 [Psychephylax]

I'm considering that if I get my scuba diving certificate

01:01:25 [Psychephylax]

I have those

01:01:29 [Psychephylax]

they're thin

01:01:53 [markd2]

heh. mine are still thick :-)

01:01:53 [Psychephylax]

They're more expensive than the plain plastic corrective lenses because they're like 1/3 thin

01:02:06 [Psychephylax]

that sucks

01:02:15 [markd2]

the ultimate in the refractive lenses don't come in my perscription

01:02:24 [markd2]

the opto was going on and on about how good it was, then said "oops, sorry. not yet"

01:02:49 [Psychephylax]

you ever considered lasik surgery?

01:03:43 [markd2]

arrgh

01:03:43 [markd2]

no way

01:03:51 [Psychephylax]

why?

01:03:54 [markd2]

nobody comin' *near* my eyes with no damn laser

01:04:01 [Psychephylax]

lol

01:04:15 [Psychephylax]

yeah I'm waiting until it's a lot more common

01:04:41 [markd2]

and to see what the longer-range behavior is

01:04:54 [markd2]

like what happens to folks as the eyes get older with that treatment

01:05:08 [markd2]

near blindness I can handle. total blindness.... no thanks

01:05:56 [Psychephylax]

right

01:06:08 [Psychephylax]

Well, you can still scuba dive

01:06:13 [Psychephylax]

You might need a guide :)

01:06:26 [markd2]

and a big white cane

01:06:30 [markd2]

with flippers

01:06:40 [Psychephylax]

I had to get within 5 inches of things to see them well enough

01:07:01 [Psychephylax]

If you see a dark hunk of stuff don't swim faster :)

01:07:11 [docwolf]

hi all

01:07:18 [markd2]

hiya

01:07:34 [Psychephylax]

hi docwolf

01:07:42 [Psychephylax]

Are you a certified scuba diver?

01:07:58 [docwolf]

no, i'm not even an uncertified one.

01:08:18 [Psychephylax]

hehe

01:09:25 [docwolf]

hmm... looks like human cloning works.

01:09:57 [markd2]

cool

01:10:08 [docwolf]

i'm trying to figure out exactly what they did

01:10:23 [Psychephylax]

Mark, since I'm lacking good vision I took pictures underwater when I went scuba diving

01:11:05 [markd2]

cool

01:11:07 [markd2]

any online?

01:11:29 [Psychephylax]

Not the underwater ones

01:11:39 [Psychephylax]

those were on old-skool film

01:11:56 [Psychephylax]

Had to send them to get developed and on a Kodak cd too

01:12:05 [Psychephylax]

29th I should get them back

01:12:15 [markd2]

heh "kodak CD" and "old-skool" in the same thought

01:12:15 [Psychephylax]

i really hope they come out well

01:12:26 [Psychephylax]

hmm?

01:12:47 [markd2]

just amused at Today's Youth :-)

01:12:53 [Psychephylax]

heh

01:12:57 [Psychephylax]

Hey it's all digital

01:12:58 [Psychephylax]

:)

01:13:01 [markd2]

as I sit here wrestling with netatalkd

01:13:35 [docwolf]

psyche: you used real film?? gasp.

01:13:45 [Psychephylax]

Well, anyhoo, when they get developed I'll put them up on the web

01:13:59 [markd2]

cool

01:14:09 [markd2]

I found three mystery rolls of film as I cleaned up my desk

01:14:11 [markd2]

we just got them back

01:14:17 [markd2]

alas nothing exciting

01:14:34 [docwolf]

nothing blackmail worthy?

01:14:37 [markd2]

well, save for that one of docwolf in a grass skirt holding that liter of Rumblemintz

01:14:56 [docwolf]

haha

01:14:58 [Psychephylax]

heh

01:17:06 [docwolf]

ugh... looks like afghanistan is getting crazier by the minute.

01:17:34 [docwolf]

that whole "prison riot" story is insane.

01:19:02 [markd2]

which one's that?

01:19:10 [markd2]

* markd2 was at a gig this afternoon and missed it

01:19:30 [docwolf]

like near 1000 taliban surrendered

01:19:41 [docwolf]

and were taken to a fort used as a POW camp

01:19:48 [docwolf]

(the fort was like 1 sq. kilometer)

01:19:55 [docwolf]

apparently, these dudes weren't searched too well

01:20:02 [docwolf]

because many were carrying weapons

01:20:12 [docwolf]

so.. once inside the fort, they decided to go postal

01:20:22 [markd2]

ooof

01:20:26 [docwolf]

and there was a massive battle.

01:20:30 [docwolf]

1 american dead so far.

01:20:35 [markd2]

:-(

01:20:39 [markd2]

my brother-in-law is over there

01:20:44 [docwolf]

double :-(

01:20:50 [docwolf]

what service?

01:20:53 [markd2]

Maines

01:20:57 [markd2]

he's an NBC specialist

01:21:00 [docwolf]

yikes

01:21:21 [docwolf]

well, it looks like the american that was killed was CIA (!)

01:21:29 [markd2]

wow

01:21:30 [docwolf]

anyway, what was so insane about this battle is

01:21:32 [docwolf]

once it started

01:21:38 [docwolf]

like all hell broke loose

01:21:42 [docwolf]

the entire facility was in anarchy

01:21:53 [docwolf]

and apparently the order came down to just eliminate everyone.

01:21:54 [docwolf]

so...

01:22:06 [docwolf]

_airstrikes_ were called in against the dudes who were rebelling (!)

01:22:13 [docwolf]

picture that!

01:22:14 [markd2]

sweet

01:22:20 [docwolf]

9 airstrikes total

01:22:29 [docwolf]

that must have been some insane shit for our guys inside

01:22:42 [docwolf]

directing the airstrikes like 200 yards away from their position

01:22:58 [docwolf]

it is like a game of half-life or something

01:23:28 [docwolf]

so anyway... i think all the taliban inside the fort were killed.

01:23:31 [docwolf]

like 800 or so.

01:23:38 [markd2]

whoa. Japanese naval vessels

01:23:51 [docwolf]

but the real problem is that it's going to be difficult for anyone to accept surrendering taliban from now on

01:24:19 [markd2]

I know I'll be double-checking any Taliban that surrender to me

01:24:27 [docwolf]

haha

01:28:46 [Psychephylax]

man

01:29:00 [Psychephylax]

It's 9:30 in RD and I'm tired already by NY time

01:36:49 [markd2]

I'm always tired

01:38:15 [Psychephylax]

heh

01:42:21 [Psychephylax]

wtf

01:42:34 [Psychephylax]

I just tried pinging my computer at work

01:42:51 [Psychephylax]

And they did something to the DNS because my ip is no longer lucy.eng.cv.net

01:43:06 [Psychephylax]

but bimbo.eng.cv.net and I don't even know if I still have a desk there

01:49:56 [markd2]

bimbo?

01:51:16 [Psychephylax]

yeah

01:51:31 [Psychephylax]

I guess they were cleaning the DNS entries

02:11:42 [Psychephylax]

anyone awake?

02:12:44 [markd2]

hi

02:13:19 [Psychephylax]

hey

02:13:36 [Psychephylax]

Stupid question but what's a 550 error code for email?

02:14:08 [markd2]

550 is relaying denied (I think)

02:14:26 [Psychephylax]

no

02:14:31 [Psychephylax]

It's mailbox not available

02:14:35 [Psychephylax]

And I figured out why

02:15:31 [Psychephylax]

I set up a .vacation before I left

02:15:38 [Psychephylax]

someone sent me spoofed mail

02:15:52 [Psychephylax]

and the reply was bounced to me with a 550

02:16:56 [markd2]

ah

02:17:19 [Psychephylax]

:/

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02:26:26 [Psychephylax]

* Psychephylax thwaps© talli

02:27:32 [talli]

* talli refers Psychephylax to the decades of prior art with regards to the use of "thwap" in cartoons

02:27:54 [talli]

* talli then quickly and viciously gives Psychephylax a falloosh to his groin.

02:32:03 [Psychephylax]

ouchies

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02:35:35 [Psychephylax]

* Psychephylax goes to bed

02:57:10 [AaronSw]

AaronSw is now known as DanC2

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DanC2 is now known as AaronSw

04:00:36 [markd2]

http://smc.keenspace.com/d/20011125.html

04:00:43 [markd2]

no chump?!?

04:00:46 [markd2]

* markd2 sighs

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13:41:06 [davb]

davb has changed the topic to: OpenACS | Free Web Toolkit | http://openacs.org

13:57:04 [ola]

hi dave.

13:58:08 [davb]

hi

13:59:05 [ola]

you know any good screen shot programs?

14:00:41 [davb]

no really...I haven't needed one lately. I usually just use Alt-PrtScrn in Windows.

14:01:20 [ola]

ok

14:05:07 [davb]

argh

14:05:36 [davb]

looks like the cat unplugged something again :)

14:07:13 [ola]

hehe

14:10:19 [davb]

nope. darn. not sure what it is. the hub and cable modem look ok...

14:11:10 [davb]

at least according to the wife... I guess I'll have to wait until I get home.

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14:41:43 [davb]

http://www.desktoplinux.com/news/NS2419968593.html

14:41:51 [davb]

argh!

14:42:02 [davb]

anyway RedHat offers to enhance MS settlement.

14:42:12 [Psychephylax]

doh

14:42:46 [davb]

Morning.

14:43:22 [davb]

http://www.pcmag.com/article/0,2997,s%253D1582%2526a%253D18853,00.asp

14:43:22 [davb]

more on the same

14:45:13 [davb]

http://www.pcmag.com/article/0,2997,s%253D1493%2526a%253D18493,00.asp

14:45:17 [davb]

Free OS/2!

14:46:34 [Psychephylax]

I hate work

14:47:34 [davb]

sorry to hear that.

14:47:38 [Psychephylax]

Eh

14:47:42 [Psychephylax]

it's just the vacation wearing off

14:49:22 [davb]

that'll do it

14:49:44 [Psychephylax]

Oh, you missed my scuba diving rants

14:58:07 [AaronSw]

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15:05:34 [Psychephylax]

Hi Mark

15:05:44 [markd2]

goot morning!

15:07:14 [Psychephylax]

how is it that I get this error:

15:07:16 [Psychephylax]

can't read "available_problems(problem_id)": no such variable

15:07:26 [Psychephylax]

But I definetly have this:

15:07:43 [Psychephylax]

} -properties {

15:07:43 [Psychephylax]

available_problems:multirow

15:07:43 [Psychephylax]

}

15:07:43 [Psychephylax]

15:07:43 [Psychephylax]

db_multirow available_problems problems_select {

15:07:44 [Psychephylax]

select * from incident_map

15:08:20 [markd2]

since it's select * , I have no idea what your columns are

15:08:38 [Psychephylax]

Didn't someone tell me that * takes them all?

15:08:48 [markd2]

it does

15:08:54 [markd2]

but it doesn't tell the person reading the code what they are

15:09:01 [Psychephylax]

heh

15:09:05 [markd2]

plus it's an opportunity for errors to creep in later

15:09:29 [davb]

* davb nods

15:09:33 [Psychephylax]

SQL> desc incident_map;

15:09:33 [Psychephylax]

Name Null? Type

15:09:33 [Psychephylax]

----------------------------------------- -------- ----------------------------

15:09:33 [Psychephylax]

PROBLEM_ID NOT NULL NUMBER(38)

15:09:33 [Psychephylax]

PROBLEM_DESC VARCHAR2(50)

15:09:33 [Psychephylax]

VISIBLE CHAR(1)

15:09:35 [Psychephylax]

SQL>

15:09:57 [markd2]

ok

15:10:05 [markd2]

are you seeing that error in the adp page, or in the tcl page?

15:10:27 [Psychephylax]

ADP

15:10:32 [Psychephylax]

as far as I understand it

15:10:35 [markd2]

ok

15:11:01 [markd2]

and you've got @available_problems.problem_id@ inside of your <multiple> tag?

15:11:16 [vinod]

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15:11:21 [davb]

hi vinod!

15:11:25 [Psychephylax]

<multiple name=available_problems>

15:11:29 [vinod]

hey dave!

15:11:30 [Psychephylax]

<tr>

15:11:30 [Psychephylax]

<td>@available_problems.problem_id@</td>

15:11:30 [Psychephylax]

<td>@available_problems.problem_desc@</td>

15:11:30 [Psychephylax]

</tr>

15:11:35 [Psychephylax]

Hey vinod

15:11:38 [vinod]

wb Psychephylax!

15:11:49 [Psychephylax]

Thank you thank you!

15:12:10 [Psychephylax]

Psychephylax has changed the topic to: OpenACS | Free Web Toolkit | http://openacs.org | Scuba Diving is fun!

15:12:18 [Psychephylax]

:)

15:12:38 [vinod]

cool!

15:13:28 [Psychephylax]

Mark, I copied the structure out of my other working page

15:13:50 [markd2]

that shuld work

15:14:02 [markd2]

make sure you don't have an @available_problems.problem_id@ outside of the miultiple tag

15:14:43 [Psychephylax]

aha

15:15:01 [Psychephylax]

Brain not enough coffee

15:15:07 [Psychephylax]

Missing </multiple>

15:16:11 [markd2]

ah

15:16:20 [davb]

http://www.students.tut.fi/~tuomov/ion/ - ION another window manager via Sweetcode for markd2

15:16:30 [markd2]

heh

15:16:51 [markd2]

at least that one's not Yet Another Blackbox Clone

15:17:02 [markd2]

did you see the adventures of blogboy?

15:17:07 [davb]

actually that one is cool. it is geared for all keyboard use.

15:17:13 [davb]

yes :)

15:17:32 [vinod]

yeah - that reminds me of my blog :-)

15:17:49 [markd2]

current mood: smelly

15:18:09 [davb]

aha the joys of working at home

15:18:12 [markd2]

nah - you don't change your layout often enough

15:18:32 [vinod]

haha

15:25:25 [Psychephylax]

hmmmm

15:27:50 [davb]

you want a link that changes based on the state of visible?

15:27:57 [Psychephylax]

Checkbox

15:28:08 [Psychephylax]

if it's visible the box is checked

15:28:17 [Psychephylax]

if it's not visible, the box is unchecked

15:28:47 [Psychephylax]

then you can toggle and hit submit

15:28:53 [Psychephylax]

And it changes the state

15:29:03 [davb]

ok.

15:29:07 [Psychephylax]

and the thing below is for adding new problems

15:29:54 [Psychephylax]

bear with me, this week is "Remember what ACS is? week"

15:30:33 [davb]

np

15:30:51 [Psychephylax]

I killed all my brain cells with beer there :)

15:31:14 [davb]

Ok. so you need to add a checkbox inside the multiple. You need an <if> that sets the checkout one way and an <else> that sets it the other way.

15:31:26 [davb]

Do you want one submit button for the whole page?

15:32:17 [Psychephylax]

Nah

15:32:19 [Psychephylax]

two will work

15:32:23 [ola]

can I comment ETP documents?

15:32:31 [Psychephylax]

Hola ola!

15:32:34 [ola]

* ola is too lazy to check

15:32:39 [Psychephylax]

Tu habla Espaniol muy bien?

15:32:43 [davb]

Kind of. There is sample code, but I don't know if its official.

15:32:58 [davb]

Unless its changed lately.

15:33:10 [ola]

hola Psychephylax. si, si senor

15:34:05 [Psychephylax]

I always mess up Tu = I and Yo = you unless I messed up again

15:34:17 [davb]

http://openacs.org/sdm/package-repository.tcl?current_entry=FILE%20%2fopenacs%2d4%2fpackages%2fedit%2dthis%2dpage%2ftcl%20etp%2dgc%2etcl&package_id=9

15:34:29 [davb]

etp-gc.tcl in the tcl directory

15:34:33 [ola]

Psychephylax: you did:-)

15:34:55 [ola]

it's tu hablas...

15:34:56 [Psychephylax]

Figures

15:35:06 [Psychephylax]

Heh

15:35:17 [Psychephylax]

Spanish is not my language

15:35:21 [ola]

did you have a nice trip?

15:35:35 [ola]

mine neither:-)

15:35:38 [Psychephylax]

Kinda

15:36:39 [Psychephylax]

My car did not start and the hotel is saying the travel agency didn't transfer the funds to them

15:37:05 [davb]

ack.

15:37:09 [Psychephylax]

Does the adp eq operator compare chars too?

15:37:15 [Psychephylax]

syn.

15:37:52 [davb]

sure.

15:38:11 [davb]

<if @char_variable@ eq "t"> or something like that

15:40:22 [Psychephylax]

coolness

15:40:32 [ola]

heh

15:41:03 [davb]

ola: let me know how that general comments thing works. I'll need it for my site.

15:41:48 [ola]

davb: sure thing. I'll probably try it later today.

15:42:38 [davb]

cool.

15:43:59 [Psychephylax]

how do I bind this checkbox to the specific problem though?

15:44:18 [davb]

heh. I am looking at computer science books and amazon.com thinks I will like this magazine...:http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B00005NIPP/ref=pd_mec_a/002-1649289-0226447

15:44:55 [davb]

Psychephylax: I was thinking about that...there is a way to pass a multirow variable back to the tcl page...I just am not sure what it is.

15:45:18 [Psychephylax]

oh

15:45:57 [markd2]

"computer science nerds who bought this technical book also need to look at pictures of scantily clad models"

15:46:03 [davb]

look in the templating docs

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16:07:18 [Psychephylax]

hmmm

16:08:02 [Psychephylax]

That check eq 't' does not work right at all

16:10:02 [davb]

what does it do?

16:10:16 [davb]

I can't access my server to see my code right now

16:10:19 [Psychephylax]

Depends on what I surround t with

16:10:29 [Psychephylax]

It either checks everything or nothing

16:10:41 [davb]

weird.

16:10:42 [Psychephylax]

oh

16:10:45 [Psychephylax]

wait

16:10:45 [Psychephylax]

I think I know

16:11:35 [Psychephylax]

Bingo!

16:11:40 [Psychephylax]

I forgot to commit

16:12:16 [davb]

heh

16:12:30 [markd2]

you've always had problems with commitment

16:12:44 [Psychephylax]

yes yes I did

16:34:46 [Psychephylax]

Where are the templating docs?

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16:37:34 [davb]

heh

16:37:44 [davb]

doc/acs-templating on your server I think

16:38:26 [Psychephylax]

aha

16:38:27 [Psychephylax]

thank you

16:39:05 [davb]

np

16:50:38 [Psychephylax]

hmm

16:51:26 [Psychephylax]

Is this it? http://167.206.9.143:8080/doc/acs-templating/TclDocs/form.html#template::form::get_combined_values

16:53:25 [davb]

heh, you have to be admin to look at the docs... hang on, I'll check at aD

16:58:00 [davb]

I think ad_page_contract will handle it. the template::foo commands are non-standard in ACS.

16:59:17 [davb]

try something like this:

16:59:37 [davb]

array

16:59:37 [davb]

This syntax maps query variables into Tcl arrays. If you specify customfield:array, then query var customfield.foo will translate into the Tcl array entry $customfield(foo). In other words: whatever comes after the dot is used as the key into the array, or, more mathematically: x.y=z => set x(y) z. If you use dot or comma is part of your key (i.e., y above contains comma or dot), then you can easily split on it in your Tcl code. Remember that you can use

16:59:50 [davb]

in you ad_page_contract as the datasource.

17:00:22 [davb]

or use a multiple if you can be sure of the order of the data

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17:00:52 [davb]

then you would end up with a list { T F T F ... }

17:01:04 [Psychephylax]

hmmm

17:01:07 [Psychephylax]

* Psychephylax processes

17:06:21 [Psychephylax]

heh, me no understand

17:08:30 [davb]

I think its like this. to turn your checkboxes into a tcl array name them like this:

17:08:44 [davb]

name="checkbox.row1"

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17:08:50 [davb]

name="checkbox.row2"

17:08:53 [davb]

etc...

17:09:04 [Psychephylax]

ok

17:09:10 [davb]

this turns into checkbox(row1) checkbox(row2) etc... when you specify

17:09:11 [Psychephylax]

i named them diff

17:09:16 [davb]

checkbox: array

17:09:20 [Psychephylax]

<td bgcolor=#FFFFFF><input type="Checkbox" name=@available_problems.problem_id@></td>

17:09:31 [davb]

That works.

17:09:44 [Psychephylax]

i don't get the checkbox: array part

17:10:20 [davb]

in ad_page_contract specify :array as the type and it will stick all the values into an array.

17:10:48 [Psychephylax]

oh

17:10:58 [davb]

but you need to name em like thos available_problems.@available_problems.problem_id@

17:11:16 [Psychephylax]

aha

17:11:24 [Psychephylax]

ok

17:11:29 [Psychephylax]

let me ask you this

17:11:53 [davb]

i.e. name="available_problems.@available_problems.problem_id@"

17:12:06 [Psychephylax]

I have tcl.page1 which gets all the problem ids and their descriptions and if they are visible or not

17:12:53 [Psychephylax]

adp.page1 displays the id, description and a toggle checkbox

17:13:10 [Psychephylax]

here, i have 2 submit buttons (Update/Add)

17:13:44 [Psychephylax]

If the user hits Update I want to go to tcl.page2 and update the database where the checkboxes have changed

17:14:09 [Psychephylax]

then show adp.page2 to show him what was changed or some confirmation screen

17:14:27 [Psychephylax]

if the user hits add I go to tcl.page3 and add that entry to the database

17:14:55 [Psychephylax]

and go back to adp/tcl.page1

17:15:06 [Psychephylax]

Makes sensei?

17:15:39 [davb]

yes.

17:15:43 [davb]

you need two forms.

17:15:50 [Psychephylax]

I have two forms

17:16:15 [davb]

Ok, you are all set.

17:16:19 [Psychephylax]

heh

17:16:32 [davb]

The tricky part is getting them to click on the right button.

17:16:49 [Psychephylax]

I'm having the confusion/lack of knowledge on how to make the tcl.page2 process the entries and update the database

17:17:01 [davb]

I did it like this.

17:17:25 [davb]

Pass all the checkbox results in the query. You end up with an array or list of values.

17:17:56 [davb]

compare this to the current state in the database and change it, or just update every row with the value in the query.

17:18:07 [Psychephylax]

ok

17:18:13 [Psychephylax]

that sounds like what I want to do

17:18:37 [davb]

http://slashdot.org/articles/01/11/26/1543245.shtml - Idiots and web servers don't mix.

17:19:04 [Psychephylax]

Lol

17:19:25 [davb]

People are complaining that google is finding the stuff on their site for a change...

17:19:42 [Psychephylax]

hahahaha

17:20:28 [davb]

I shouldn;t store all my passwords in a plain text file under the web server root?

17:21:04 [Psychephylax]

lol

17:22:08 [Psychephylax]

ok

17:22:12 [Psychephylax]

well, here's a problem

17:22:23 [Psychephylax]

it's not passing the off values

17:22:28 [Psychephylax]

add-problem2?1=on&2=on&3=on

17:22:33 [Psychephylax]

should be

17:22:40 [Psychephylax]

add-problem2?1=on&2=on&3=on&4=off

17:22:48 [davb]

hmmm...

17:23:24 [Psychephylax]

let me see something

17:23:52 [Psychephylax]

Aha

17:23:57 [Psychephylax]

it just passes the on values

17:24:03 [Psychephylax]

so I can set those

17:24:12 [Psychephylax]

I'll do this

17:24:43 [Psychephylax]

1. update blah set visible='f'

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2. update blah set visible = 't' where Passed = 'on'

17:29:17 [davb]

use a case in there, then you only need one step.

17:29:32 [davb]

or is it decode... whichever is for Oracle

17:30:17 [markd2]

oracle has case also

17:30:56 [davb]

really?

17:30:59 [davb]

ok.

17:31:29 [Psychephylax]

yeah but won't I have the problem where someone unchecks the value?

17:31:37 [Psychephylax]

Then it won't show up and it won't be set to off

17:31:50 [davb]

aha.

17:32:11 [davb]

It should pass them though..

17:32:23 [Psychephylax]

yeah, you tell it to the dudes who designed the forms thing

17:32:41 [davb]

HTML?

17:32:46 [Psychephylax]

yes

17:33:15 [davb]

I mean I think there is a way to make it work.

17:33:17 [Psychephylax]

aha

17:33:18 [Psychephylax]

I know

17:33:21 [Psychephylax]

yes there is

17:34:55 [Psychephylax]

wait

17:36:18 [davb]

aha that is the way it works..."specifies the value to be returned to the server if the checkbox is selected when the form is submitted. The default value is ON, but you can specify a different value if you want. When the form is submitted, only the name/value pairs for selected checkboxes are sent to the invoked CGI program. "

17:37:07 [Psychephylax]

right

17:38:42 [davb]

I wish I could see my server... I already programmed this exact same problem...

17:40:43 [Psychephylax]

shame on you dave :P

17:41:12 [Psychephylax]

i got approved for a MasterCard =)

17:41:15 [Psychephylax]

yay!

17:42:09 [davb]

yippee for the economy!

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18:01:33 [Psychephylax]

heh

18:02:38 [Psychephylax]

So Dave, how do I catch this into a list?

18:02:43 [Psychephylax]

or array

18:03:07 [Psychephylax]

actually

18:03:13 [Psychephylax]

hold that thought, it's time for food in my belly

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19:05:26 [Psychephylax]

roll call?

19:05:46 [adler]

oi

19:05:49 [Psychephylax]

:)

19:06:08 [adler]

&{}

19:06:38 [Psychephylax]

brb

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19:07:43 [adler]

hey rbm

19:09:07 [Psychephylax]

bah

19:12:44 [Psychephylax]

Dave?

19:14:34 [davb]

hello

19:15:08 [Psychephylax]

Hi

19:15:49 [Psychephylax]

ok

19:16:04 [Psychephylax]

how does it create the list/array for me?

19:16:39 [davb]

its magic :) ad_page_contract creates it from the query variables

19:16:52 [Psychephylax]

So how do I do this?

19:17:31 [adler]

I've been poling acs-mail and I've notice there's a capability dump incoming mail from the MTA to the RDBMS, but it seems Oracle specific and therefore infrequently used...

19:18:26 [adler]

It just seems like it woudl be very interesting to be able to feed information in via email

19:18:35 [Psychephylax]

name=problem_list.@available_problems.problem_id@

19:18:44 [Psychephylax]

so you're saying my problem_list is a list?

19:19:10 [davb]

Psychephylax: that looks like the array syntax. To make it a list just use all the same name.

19:19:29 [Psychephylax]

I did

19:19:31 [davb]

for an array you would have problem_list:array in ad_page_contract

19:19:53 [Psychephylax]

right

19:19:58 [davb]

doesn't this: name=problem_list.@available_problems.problem_id@ give it a number:

19:20:01 [davb]

?

19:20:10 [Psychephylax]

yeah

19:20:15 [adler]

(I'm just a bot programed to contribute on-topic background noise)

19:20:21 [Psychephylax]

:)

19:21:21 [Psychephylax]

dave, is that a problem?

19:22:51 [davb]

no, just then they aren't all the same :) so use an array. that is probably better, that way you don't have to rely on the position of the variable in the list.

19:24:21 [Psychephylax]

right

19:24:44 [Psychephylax]

but how do I do "For each element number, update the db where problem_id = number

19:25:01 [davb]

I have to think about it...

19:25:26 [davb]

adler: I think all the mail stuff was done inside Oracle before...

19:26:29 [Psychephylax]

aha

19:26:55 [davb]

Psychephylax: you might have to turn the array into a list

19:27:16 [Psychephylax]

Naaah

19:27:33 [Psychephylax]

array nextelement arrayName searchId

19:27:37 [Psychephylax]

Should work

19:29:11 [davb]

ok.

19:30:04 [Psychephylax]

or maybe not

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19:30:26 [davb]

hi talli

19:31:16 [Psychephylax]

hi talli, wb

19:31:31 [Psychephylax]

arg

19:31:46 [adler]

davb: I really don't know for sure, but I think oracle just handled the outgoing mail- mta stuff. I talking about incoming mail and wondering why that hasn't been implemented very much

19:31:51 [Psychephylax]

how come i can't do this: ns_log Notice "your problem_list is $list" and it's saying it's an array

19:31:53 [adler]

hey talli

19:31:59 [adler]

happy cranksgiving

19:32:12 [Psychephylax]

can I do [array get problem_list] instead of $problem_liost?

19:32:18 [davb]

yes.

19:32:43 [Psychephylax]

aha

19:33:40 [Psychephylax]

Notice: your problem list is 1 t 3 t

19:33:54 [Psychephylax]

now I need to update the database

19:34:30 [davb]

right.

19:34:33 [adler]

davb: like wouldn't it be convenient to be able to respond to the bboard spam via your email client?

19:34:46 [davb]

adler: yes, very

19:34:57 [davb]

its in the works I suspect. or on the wish list anyway.

19:35:01 [adler]

or have a generic way to feed input in via mail

19:35:23 [Psychephylax]

Dave, is my problem_list a list or a string?

19:35:26 [davb]

It would be nice.

19:35:34 [davb]

array get creates a list.

19:35:45 [Psychephylax]

ok

19:35:50 [davb]

the odd ones are the index, even are the value

19:35:50 [adler]

where is vinod, Mr Mail Stud

19:35:56 [Psychephylax]

now, how do I grab pairs out of that list?

19:36:01 [markd2]

probably out PERFORMing somewhere

19:36:50 [adler]

heh

19:37:40 [talli]

hey guys, sorry i was on the phone

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19:39:07 [Psychephylax]

yeah but how do I get the odd ones and the even ones?

19:40:06 [adler]

there seems to be provisions in acs-mail for some other process to dump mails into one of its tables. and there is an oracle specific script which seems to perform that. But I think we need a deeper api which matches patterns in incoming mails, or does PGP authentication... just thought I'd poll for ideas

19:41:56 [davb]

adler: sounds like a good candidate for acs-service-contract enabled package

19:43:45 [adler]

davb: what the best documentation on that so far?

19:45:23 [davb]

just what is in the acs-service-contract/www/doc

19:45:49 [davb]

and the sample code in search and openfts-driver

19:46:32 [adler]

great. that calls for a sandwich

19:48:22 [Psychephylax]

Dave

19:48:46 [davb]

yes?

19:48:55 [Psychephylax]

how do I get 2 values from the list at a time?

19:48:57 [davb]

oh yeah.

19:49:01 [Psychephylax]

:)

19:49:02 [davb]

like this:

19:49:04 [Psychephylax]

* Psychephylax waves

19:49:06 [davb]

set i 0

19:49:12 [davb]

foreach item $list {

19:49:21 [Psychephylax]

oh I can just do incr i twice

19:49:27 [davb]

yeah...

19:49:45 [Psychephylax]

won't there be an array out of bounds error?

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19:50:31 [davb]

isn't it a list?

19:50:31 [talli]

hey guys

19:50:37 [Psychephylax]

yeah it's a list

19:50:49 [Psychephylax]

<--thinking java here

19:50:51 [davb]

wait...

19:51:20 [davb]

my method is for when you have two parallel lists.

19:51:26 [davb]

yoy need a for not a foreach

19:51:34 [Psychephylax]

right

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20:01:29 [Psychephylax]

Dave?

20:19:02 [adler]

w

20:19:56 [Psychephylax]

nblyumbe p2 pool197:S.0 Sun09AM - BitchX

20:20:00 [Psychephylax]

:)

20:20:05 [davb]

back

20:20:33 [Psychephylax]

wb

20:20:41 [Psychephylax]

ok, i am very close to solving my problem

20:20:51 [Psychephylax]

The array indexing is whacked

20:22:15 [davb]

Psychephylax: remember its not a real array. the indexes are whatever you say they are...

20:25:30 [Psychephylax]

Well that doesn't work very well does it

20:26:29 [Psychephylax]

I tried it like this:

20:26:31 [Psychephylax]

set p_list [array get problem_list]

20:26:31 [Psychephylax]

set list_length [array size problem_list]

20:26:31 [Psychephylax]

for {set i 0} {$i < $list_length} {incr i 2} {

20:26:31 [Psychephylax]

db_dml update_values "update incident_map set visible = '[lindex $p_list [expr $i+1]]' where problem_id = '[lindex $p_list $\

20:26:31 [Psychephylax]

i]'"

20:26:33 [Psychephylax]

}

20:27:40 [davb]

actually that looks ok.

20:29:10 [Psychephylax]

looks can be deceiving

20:29:14 [davb]

aha

20:29:24 [davb]

problem_id = ' '

20:29:35 [Psychephylax]

hmmm?

20:29:36 [davb]

it thinks it a string? maybe. just guessing

20:29:45 [Psychephylax]

hmmm

20:29:51 [Psychephylax]

Here's another thing

20:29:56 [davb]

try it without the ''s for problem_id

20:29:58 [Psychephylax]

if I have nothing checked

20:30:24 [Psychephylax]

it craps out saying that I did not supply a value for problem_list

20:30:44 [Psychephylax]

any suggestions on how to get around that>?

20:30:59 [davb]

isn't it $problem_list?

20:31:04 [davb]

maybe not, not sure

20:31:37 [Psychephylax]

no no

20:31:44 [davb]

you are right.

20:31:53 [Psychephylax]

It's doing error checking for me

20:32:01 [davb]

in the page_contract?

20:32:04 [Psychephylax]

yes

20:32:14 [Psychephylax]

and I want to allow null values

20:32:20 [Psychephylax]

actually

20:32:24 [Psychephylax]

I guess not really

20:34:40 [Psychephylax]

Since you gotta have a problem of some sorts

20:34:40 [Psychephylax]

:)

20:34:40 [Psychephylax]

Aha

20:34:40 [Psychephylax]

It works, if I check one thing at a time

20:34:43 [Psychephylax]

tcl lists start with 0

20:34:57 [davb]

yes

20:36:35 [Psychephylax]

well

20:36:37 [Psychephylax]

this is whacked

20:36:56 [Psychephylax]

[26/Nov/2001:15:32:20][19810.28][-conn8-] Notice: Your p_list is 4 t 1 t 2 t 3 t

20:36:56 [Psychephylax]

[26/Nov/2001:15:32:20][19810.28][-conn8-] Notice: Your list length is 4

20:37:03 [Psychephylax]

it's about 4 elements off

20:37:30 [markd2]

are you calculating the list length in that loop?

20:37:34 [markd2]

which is incrementing by twos?

20:38:11 [Psychephylax]

no

20:38:13 [Psychephylax]

I have this

20:38:36 [Psychephylax]

set list {1 t 2 f 4 t 3 f} for example

20:38:48 [Psychephylax]

now, I need to update Oracle

20:39:03 [Psychephylax]

so I try i=0 (first element)

20:39:14 [Psychephylax]

and i+1 (second element in pair)

20:39:22 [Psychephylax]

but it's leaving off like half the list

20:40:06 [Psychephylax]

Aha!

20:40:07 [Psychephylax]

Stupid mistake

20:40:08 [Psychephylax]

:)

20:41:26 [Psychephylax]

yup

20:41:27 [Psychephylax]

:)

20:49:21 [Psychephylax]

Anyone know meta tags?

20:52:35 [davb]

which ones?

20:53:59 [Psychephylax]

Well,

20:54:04 [Psychephylax]

This is what I want to do

20:54:56 [Psychephylax]

go here http://167.206.9.143:8080/snmp/www/add-problem

20:55:44 [davb]

ok

20:55:58 [Psychephylax]

there?

20:56:02 [davb]

yes

20:56:11 [Psychephylax]

all boxes are checked right?

20:56:21 [davb]

yeah

20:56:28 [Psychephylax]

uncheck a few and hit submit

20:56:32 [Psychephylax]

just hit it once

20:56:44 [davb]

ok

20:57:06 [Psychephylax]

see how it updated the database but it didn't "look" like it did?

20:57:25 [davb]

no. it looks ok to me.

20:57:27 [Psychephylax]

I wanna make it "cool" and like have a few second delay in there before it updates

20:57:33 [davb]

really?

20:57:38 [Psychephylax]

yeah

20:57:49 [Psychephylax]

like stick a "Database updated" type thing

20:58:17 [davb]

How about a message that displays on that page... like pass an updated parameter to it.

20:58:25 [davb]

add-problem?updated=yes

20:58:38 [Psychephylax]

hmmm

20:58:45 [davb]

They say "Database Updated" at the top or something.

20:58:59 [Psychephylax]

i see, I see

20:59:01 [Psychephylax]

* Psychephylax thinks

20:59:09 [davb]

or, have a page that says "database updated, click here to continue"

20:59:19 [Psychephylax]

yeah that's what I tried doing

20:59:27 [Psychephylax]

but it bugged out

20:59:40 [Psychephylax]

watch

20:59:45 [Psychephylax]

click it again and watch what happens

21:00:09 [Psychephylax]

ack

21:00:12 [davb]

put a link in there also...

21:00:12 [Psychephylax]

I got rid of that meta tag

21:00:13 [Psychephylax]

hold on

21:00:14 [davb]

heh

21:00:15 [talli]

does anybody in here know anything about Access?

21:00:20 [davb]

Yes

21:00:27 [davb]

unfortunately

21:01:18 [Psychephylax]

Try now

21:01:56 [davb]

its redirecting to itself...

21:01:59 [talli]

davb: if i have a group of data and i would like to print the data out as labels on a 3 column page, do you know how i might do this? does my question make sense?

21:02:04 [Psychephylax]

Does it have to be an absolute link or can it be a relative link?

21:02:17 [davb]

talli: sure. hang on...

21:02:29 [davb]

Psychephylax: make it absolute to be safe, IE sucks with redirects

21:02:43 [davb]

talli: access 2000?

21:02:51 [talli]

davb: yes

21:05:50 [davb]

talli: go to reports - click on the new button on the toolbar, label wizard.

21:06:59 [davb]

typical microsoft: Create New Report without using a wizard to select the Label Wizard

21:07:30 [davb]

It is impossible to use the label wizard by clicking "create report by using wizard"

21:08:09 [davb]

talli: Access consultant option: pay me $90 and I will click the button for you

21:08:43 [davb]

talli: or Insert - > Report

21:13:08 [talli]

ah, label wizard. sounds about right

21:13:39 [Psychephylax]

* Psychephylax gives Mark a cookie

21:15:31 [markd2]

* markd2 wakes up

21:16:28 [talli]

davb: thanks a bunch, solved my prob

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21:17:35 [davb]

np. access has everything, its finding the secret incantation thats the trick part.

21:18:40 [Psychephylax]

Mark, how do I find out if I Made a trigger, and what value it is at now?

21:18:57 [Psychephylax]

s/trigger/sequence

21:19:05 [markd2]

describe user_Sequences;

21:19:10 [Psychephylax]

I did select sequence_name from user_sequences;

21:19:24 [markd2]

to find the "current vlaue", do a select trigger_name.nextval from dual;

21:20:44 [Psychephylax]

Is there a way to advance the sequence?

21:20:57 [Psychephylax]

I already have numbers 1-4

21:21:00 [markd2]

that advances the sequence

21:21:05 [Psychephylax]

I want nextval to return 5

21:21:06 [markd2]

or you can drop the sequence

21:21:19 [markd2]

and recreate it with 'create sequence cookies starting with 500"

21:21:21 [markd2]

or whatever

21:21:30 [Psychephylax]

aha

21:21:44 [Psychephylax]

so if I do a query and it says it's at 4

21:21:47 [Psychephylax]

the next one is 5?

21:21:56 [markd2]

it'll be greater than 4

21:22:00 [Psychephylax]

or is the next one a 4 and the one after it is a 5?

21:22:05 [Psychephylax]

ah

21:22:06 [Psychephylax]

ok

21:22:10 [markd2]

when you do nextval, it bumps th sequence

21:22:19 [markd2]

due to caching, you're not guarnteed it'll increment by 1

21:22:27 [markd2]

usually it will be, but you can't depend n it

21:24:30 [ola]

ok, exqueeze me for intruding... how do I remove everything after the last slash in a url?

21:25:14 [ola]

davb? :-)

21:25:52 [davb]

looking...

21:27:30 [davb]

try this: [string trimright $fs_root "/"]

21:27:30 [davb]

21:27:42 [markd2]

remove as in truncating, or remove as in you want the stuff after the last slash?

21:27:59 [ola]

truncating.

21:28:21 [markd2]

the tcl 'file' commands might do it for you

21:29:06 [markd2]

club-over-the-head approach would be to split the list on /, then join it back without the last element

21:29:27 [davb]

file dirname

21:29:54 [davb]

[string trimright $fs_root "/"]

21:29:54 [davb]

21:29:56 [davb]

oops

21:30:23 [Psychephylax]

won't that trim everything after http:/

21:31:07 [markd2]

trimright

21:31:16 [davb]

if its a URL yes. I thought we were talking a filesystem path.

21:31:16 [markd2]

it'll take off any trailing '/'s

21:31:47 [davb]

file dirname gives the directory part of a filename

21:32:14 [Psychephylax]

:P (<ola> ok, exqueeze me for intruding... how do I remove everything after the

21:32:14 [davb]

"Returns a name comprised of all of the path components in name excluding the last element"

21:32:14 [Psychephylax]

last slash in a url?

21:32:22 [davb]

Psychephylax wins

21:32:29 [Psychephylax]

if anything it would be trimleft /

21:32:34 [Psychephylax]

ack

21:32:40 [Psychephylax]

hang on

21:34:59 [ola]

ok it's not a filename. [string trimright /foo/bar "/"] becomes /foo/bar. I'd like it to be /foo/...

21:35:13 [ola]

trimleft removes the first slash.

21:35:30 [Psychephylax]

right

21:35:44 [Psychephylax]

You would have to use regular expressions

21:35:45 [ola]

no left!

21:35:50 [ola]

:-)

21:37:03 [davb]

* davb thinks RE is the way to go

21:37:12 [Psychephylax]

here http://www.scriptics.com/doc/howto/regexp81.html

21:37:30 [Psychephylax]

Scroll down to Noncapturing subpatterns

21:37:33 [Psychephylax]

that should help

21:37:49 [til]

* til suggests regexp {^(.*)/} $url match stripped_url

21:38:30 [Psychephylax]

til, I think that would match only the http:/ part once again

21:38:47 [til]

* is greedy per default i think

21:38:57 [Psychephylax]

you're right

21:39:41 [Psychephylax]

But that's a problem as well

21:39:43 [til]

{^(.*)/?} maybe, then the last slash is optional (like in http://openacs.org )

21:39:56 [Psychephylax]

what happens if you have http://www.openacs.org/4/markd/likes/cookies

21:40:25 [Psychephylax]

it will get everything up to and including likes/

21:40:44 [til]

that would return "http://www.openacs.org/4/markd/likes" not the slash (guessing)

21:40:58 [Psychephylax]

Ola, what are you trying to cut out?

21:42:58 [ola]

everything after the last slash.

21:43:22 [Psychephylax]

So if you have http://openacs.org/4/markd/likes/cookies

21:43:25 [Psychephylax]

you want cookies?

21:43:33 [ola]

I wanna keep the last slash...

21:43:40 [Psychephylax]

so /cookies?

21:44:16 [til]

put the slash inside (), like this {^(.*/?)}

21:44:24 [ola]

no. I want to get rid of cookies - too much calories.

21:44:30 [til]

not sure if that works

21:44:39 [Psychephylax]

So what do you want from that url?

21:45:28 [til]

no it doesn't - the slash can't be made optional this way

21:45:31 [ola]

Psychephylax: I want "http://openacs.org/4/markd/likes/"

21:45:37 [Psychephylax]

ok

21:46:48 [Psychephylax]

^(.*/)

21:46:52 [Psychephylax]

would be my guess

21:47:33 [Psychephylax]

which is what til gave you but it's greedy so it gets up to likes and grabs the / with it

21:48:04 [til]

Psychephylax: yeah, but in case of just a hostname "http://openacs.org">http://openacs.org" that matches "http://"

21:48:25 [Psychephylax]

aha

21:48:34 [Psychephylax]

hmm hang on

21:49:41 [ola]

I don't have a host name, just /foo/bar/baz...

21:50:26 [Psychephylax]

then this will work ^(.*/)

21:50:41 [Psychephylax]

if he had a hostname he could use bounds to fix it :)

21:51:34 [Psychephylax]

Or lookahead stuff that I don't understand well enough

21:52:56 [davb]

bye

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22:00:04 [ola]

yippee! thanks til and Psychephylax and markd2 and davb! IT WORKS.

22:00:39 [ola]

what's the difference between 4match and $ stripped_url?

22:00:55 [ola]

s/4match/$match

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22:04:47 [Psychephylax]

Yippies

22:04:55 [ola]

heh

22:05:43 [Psychephylax]

i got my shit working too

22:06:03 [ola]

cool

22:06:42 [Psychephylax]

yup

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22:10:18 [Psychephylax]

wooohoooo

22:10:23 [Psychephylax]

I'm totally AOL free now

22:12:22 [ola]

what are you saying? no AOLserver??

22:15:43 [Psychephylax]

heh

22:15:47 [Psychephylax]

no, I'm not paying for AOL

22:15:59 [Psychephylax]

i went to their 9.95$ plan a long time ago

22:16:06 [Psychephylax]

and today finally cancelled it

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22:23:07 [ola]

bye guys

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