http://blogspace.com/swhack/weblog/Swhack WeblogThe Preeminent "Mr. Grape" Discussion Grouphttp://blogspace.com/swhack/weblog/2001/12/11/2001-12-11.html#1008107808.598155W3C Technical Architecture Group (TAG) Dream TeamAaronSw: Roy Fielding, Henrik Frystyk Nielsen, Larry Masinter, Mark Baker, Aaron Swartz ;); AaronSw: Luminaries: David Gelernter, Mark Miller; AaronSw: Friends: Dan Brickley, Sean B. Palmer, Mark Nottingham; AaronSw: Interesting people: Dave Winer, Clay Shirky; AaronSw: Wild guesses: Rohit Khare, Pat Hayes, Edd Dumbill, Ray Ozzie, Philip Greenspun; AaronSw: Obviously a lot of W3C people would be appropriate, but I wanted to spread things around a little.; AaronSw: See the TAG homepage for more.; AaronSw: The current five elected members are: Paul Cotton, Roy Fielding, David Orchard, Normal Walsh, Stuart Williams.;
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http://www.w3.org/2001/09/chump/annoChump OverviewAaronSw: From Eric Miller;
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http://blogspace.com/swhack/weblog/2001/12/11/2001-12-11.html#1008104888.700577WWW History FunAaronSw: TimBL's first post.; AaronSw: TimBL summarizes the WorldWideWeb project.; AaronSw: TimBL's original proposal quotes a Usenet article in '89, of which we can only find remnants.; AaronSw: DanC's first post has him starting a flame war.; AaronSw: DanC's first mention of the WWW back in 1991 seems to use some ancient N3.; AaronSw: DanC asks for help with his HTML DTD: "It's a fairly mundane DTD, with headers, lists and such; no minimization or anything. The idea is that mere mortals should be able to write parsers and generators for this language."; AaronSw: Even back in 1992, DanC was looking for "information processing where the computer has knowledge of the semantics of the information behind the presentation", after hearing Douglas Engelbart speak on it.; AaronSw: DanC says "I have fought tooth-and-nail with implementors and information providers to acutally use the SGML standard, and I'm gaining ground."; AaronSw: DanC uses his catch-phrase "We believe in the interconnectedness of all things" for the first time.; AaronSw: Actually, TimBL's very first post was reporting a GCC bug.; AaronSw: TimBL announces his new release which surfs all sorts of protocols.; AaronSw: TimBL announces the new "XMosaic" browser. I vaguely remember seeing an announcement about this.; AaronSw: TimBL corrects a "FUNDAMENTAL MISUNDERSTANDING" by explaing the power of downwards compatibility: "Hypertext turns out to be a neat idea BECAUSE it can represent menus to start with. When you really get into it, you often find that you need a little more. (Look at the Panda project which started just so as to get a little descriptive text above a gopher menu!)."; sbp: cf. the first (main) www-talk message; not started until October 1991; sbp: It's hillarious that the only follow-ups in the 6484@cernvax.cern.ch thread completely ignored TimBL; AaronSw: It just goes to show you the value of persistence. I'm sure that even nowadays if you tried to suggest the Semantic Web was a solution to somebody's problem they'd ignore you.;
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http://loki.stockton.edu/~ken/ceresly/Ceres-Ly -- A Ceres WeblogAaronSw: Kenneth Tompkins really likes Ceres.; AaronSw: If only it was Carbonized...;
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http://www.google.com/googlegroups/archive_announce_20.html20 Year Archive now Available on Google GroupsAaronSw: Some highlights include TimBL's summary of the WorldWideWeb project and the GNU Announcement.; AaronSw: I'm now convinced more than ever that they need to team up with The Internet Archive.;
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http://www.mojonation.net/download/download.shtmlMojoNation 0.999 Released (Really Good Edition)AaronSw: I'm a mojo multimillionaire!;
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http://news.independent.co.uk/world/asia_china/story.jsp?story=109257Incredible First-Person Story of Afghan Anger
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http://www.pbs.org/cringely/pulpit/pulpit20011206.htmlBob Cringely on the Microsoft SettlementAaronSw: Includes a DIY email to the DOJ.; AaronSw: Gates for his part says: "We will focus more on how our actions affect other companie. We resolve ourselves to becoming an even better industry leader."; AaronSw: Is it just me or does that sound like "We'll try even harder to be ruthless monopolists."?;
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