00:08:23 tansaku_xz has quit (Connection timed out) 00:14:07 A:|America, WAKE-UP! "Quadrant Sign Code"--EXPOSED! 00:14:09 @ http://www.capnasty.org/issues/7/10/1207 00:14:09 titled item A 00:14:17 B: http://www.capnasty.org/issues/7/10/1207 from sbp 00:14:29 B:|The Thunderthief: Take the bull by the horns, darling, what do you say? 00:14:37 titled item B 00:14:48 * sbp needs his own Weblog again. oh well 00:17:48 B::Normally, it's difficult to make "it rocks" stretch out for eight paragraphs... The Thunderthief is certainly an album worth buying, though, especially if you're a musician yourself: there are such an enourmous range of influences expressed on the album it's incredible. Anyway, judge from the review. 00:17:50 commented item B 00:18:43 "B::Buy it! Buy it now!" 00:22:42 gu 00:22:51 er, hi 00:23:15 hey there 00:23:58 gruuu...,,.,. 00:24:17 wow, you wrote a review for capnasty? 00:24:26 * sbp did indeed 00:24:26 I knew that IRC server was nothing but bad for you. 00:24:30 heh, heh 00:25:06 Sean B. Palmer: now cooler, swhackier; more chic, proactive, and phenomic. 00:25:17 yeah, well, I had to work "phenomic" in there somehow :-) 00:25:36 It's a bit odd seeing your review next to "How to Drive Home Drunk" 00:25:43 and "swhack", even in it's comparative adjective form... 00:25:47 heh, yeah 00:26:06 they're an eclectic lot 00:26:20 s/it's/its/ 00:26:26 and before: "PERFECTLY MARKETABLE MATERIAL! Heh heh. I mean, how many times have YOU wanted to express those sentiments with someone else's words, by mail, with someone else's artwork...?" 00:26:37 [off] Joshua Allen is back 00:26:40 sentiments like: 00:26:40 "Crumbs beginning to mold... 00:26:40 fingertip twitches on the remote... 00:26:40 I begin to drool... 00:26:40 and somehow 00:26:41 I'm reminded of you..." 00:27:04 [off] where? 00:27:23 [off] his blog 00:27:35 [off] whoa -- that blog needs some line height 00:30:11 @ http://www2.iro.umontreal.ca/~pinard/traiter.cgi/wdiff 00:30:22 C: Welcome to the %(long_package_name)s site from AaronSw 00:30:31 C:|GNU wdiff 00:30:32 titled item C 00:32:30 [off] IBM VP stymied by Radio UserLand 00:38:44 I'm hungry 00:38:53 eat 00:38:53 what should I eat? let's put it to a vote 00:38:59 ooh 00:39:07 1) last night's pizza 00:39:18 there is no last night's pizza 00:39:26 s/pizza/leftovers/ 00:39:34 none of that either 00:39:35 wmf... leftovers... heh 00:39:38 2) his keys (then you'll not lose them) 00:39:51 no nutritional value there 00:39:54 AaronSw has changed the topic to: What should Wes Felter eat? 00:39:58 coat them in chocolate 00:40:16 further decreasing nutritional value... 00:40:26 I disagree 00:40:45 yeah. you have to mush some vitamin pills into it, or it's just not chocolate 00:40:46 chocolate has more nutritional value than plastic and metal 00:41:10 dunno. some metals are rich in iron, others in magnesium 00:41:43 yes, I've heard iron is rich in iron 00:42:08 and possibly steel, which is comprised mainly of iron, plus some other crap 00:42:36 come on! you call yourselves swhackers? 00:42:46 yeah. sorry. we suck ass 00:43:18 dogcow has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 00:43:25 eat a bagel, or some fish, or poulty, or a pizza, or some kind of cuttlefish. yum yum: cuttlefish 00:43:51 give us some choices, man. 00:43:58 a vote's no fun without multiple choice 00:44:23 or when they're rigged 00:44:37 that's my problem; everything that I can think of just doesn't interest me 00:44:51 How about your foot? 00:45:13 (monty python impression) I'm kinda using it right now 00:45:14 can't you get your supercomputer cluster to simulate some food or soemthign? 00:45:21 what's so interesting about his foot? has it had an article published about it in the NYT? 00:46:29 I've heard that raw fish is considered quite a delicacy in some parts. why don't you get a hamburger? 00:47:00 go Hawaiian and eat some poi with something. or just by itself 00:47:02 aaaah sotp talking about food! 00:47:06 chalky 00:47:09 make us 00:47:15 theres like 0 food in my house ;\ 00:47:18 i'm starvin 00:47:26 actually, I'm pretty hungry too now. damnit, wmf 00:47:29 hmm, there's Korea House but it's a bit far 00:47:40 mwahahaa! you will all suffer along with me! 00:49:13 perhaps you should go to your fridge/cupboard, and eat the first thing that you see (tip: don't look at the lightbulb/handle) 00:49:48 ok, I think I'll get a sandwich 00:49:54 wmf has quit ("[BX] Pretzel Boy uses BitchX. Shouldn't you?") 00:50:19 so, whilst Pretzel Boy goes to get a sandwich... 00:53:48 i'm gonna fry up some eggs, sausage, pepperjack cheese and taco sauce 00:57:50 Gotta run 01:01:21 bip0lar (~bipolar@adsl-64-109-205-201.dsl.milwwi.ameritech.net) has joined #swhack 01:02:15 hi all, finally got my linux to work 01:04:14 bipolar__ (~bipolar@adsl-64-109-205-201.dsl.milwwi.ameritech.net) has joined #swhack 01:04:44 bipolar__ has left #swhack 01:08:06 bipolar has left #swhack 01:17:48 bip0lar_ (~bipolar@adsl-64-109-205-201.dsl.milwwi.ameritech.net) has joined #swhack 01:19:08 bip0lar_ has left #swhack 01:22:47 Seth has quit () 01:23:45 last scriptingNews update: 5:55:55 PM 01:25:03 hmmm 01:52:13 wmf (~wmf@cs666868-69.austin.rr.com) has joined #swhack 01:54:30 swhack? 01:54:34 wmf? 01:54:41 howdy 01:54:55 how was dinner? 01:55:07 I am not starving 01:55:27 can you think of any documents that deserve a global mirror network? 01:55:44 besides HTP? 01:55:47 :-) 01:55:53 um.... yeah 01:56:16 how about this image of Alan Cox with a ridiculously small computer? 01:56:18 http://images.dibona.com/pictures/showpic/index.shtml?Kernel02/convs/6x4_dscn3999.jpg 01:56:31 heh! 01:56:47 danbri had a libretto that was about that size 02:02:31 Morbus (morbus@s90.terminal3.totalnetnh.net) has joined #swhack 02:03:36 [off] i just got a cease and desist from moreover concerning something about amphetadesk. 02:03:38 [off] ummm. huh? 02:03:50 [off] concerning what? 02:04:20 [off] i really don't know. 02:04:36 interesting. Mark "schlub" Fraunfelder wrote this semweb article http://www.technologyreview.com/articles/frauenfelder1101.asp 02:04:38 [off] they just said I am, and i needed to contact them. 02:04:53 http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=106900 02:05:30 [off] I want some contact, contact! ... 02:05:57 [off] i mean, i use their logo on the finding_more.html page. 02:06:05 [off] maybe that's in breach, but they specifically said "Services" 02:06:09 AaronSw: you been listening to Citizen Cope or am I projecting? 02:06:20 [off] and the only way i can think of is that Syndic8.com is listing their feeds, and thus, it spiders down to me. 02:06:20 I've been listening to Citizen Cope. 02:06:32 [off] or else, a user has used the "Search" feature of their site, and added it to AmphetaDesk. 02:06:53 [off] they probably have a patent on rss files lol 02:07:14 [off] heh, heh. or their proprietary search URL parameters 02:08:09 * wmf puts on some Citizen Cope 02:08:38 what kind of music is citizen cope? 02:08:40 argh. it won't let me repair my drive. 02:08:40 stupid thing. 02:08:53 blues? 02:09:01 * wmf doesn't have a good sense of genres 02:09:14 i don't think they're blues 02:09:33 one of my failings is wanting to categorize all music into genres :\ 02:09:43 i never use id3 genres/ 02:09:43 blues-inspired generic rock & roll? 02:10:08 heh. thelsdj should get together with ruaok 02:10:11 "The album combines an ever-so-slight bit of island flavor, R&B, hip-hop, smoky-club lounge, and blues." 02:10:12 it comes from having 35 gigs of mp3s that are all over the board in different types of music 02:11:58 * thelsdj starts reading The Tao of Physics 02:13:28 Morbus has quit ("http://www.disobey.com/") 02:15:00 Woo! Carl said yes! 02:15:51 aren't you a little young for that? 02:16:32 .time +3 02:16:32 Wed, 26 Jun 2002 06:17:37 +3 02:20:25 AaronSw: Malamud? 02:20:31 yes. 02:20:37 what about? 02:21:01 I want to build a global mirror system at web.resource.org 02:23:40 hosting namespaces and stuff, maybe also rfcs and media type info 02:23:50 i'm trying to thinnk of content that deserves a permanent home on the web 02:26:27 is news articles from small independent publishers who might go out of business in your realm of interest? 02:26:46 actually, yeah 02:27:54 when you have your server setup, maybe you just advertise somehow so publishers just contact you to preserve their historical journalism 02:36:03 @ http://builder.com.com/article.jhtml?id=u00420020617DGS01.htm 02:36:15 D: Space shuttle engineers use Python to streamline mission design from AaronSw 02:54:07 oh.. duh! Project Gutenberg 02:54:30 does Project Gutenberg need more mirrors? 02:54:39 it needs a better interface... 02:56:26 but yeah, you have a point 02:57:00 if anything needs mirrors, it's *.sf.net 02:57:15 why's that? 02:57:19 it seems really slow lately 03:01:02 heh, so much for permanence. looks like carl's servers just keeled over 03:01:18 serving up that huge proposal 03:02:55 yeah, charging $30,000 to read it doesn't seem quite as unreasonable as before 03:03:07 what? 03:03:16 oh, I get it 03:03:24 ICANN has a fee of $30,000 per proposal submitted 03:03:27 yeah 03:03:37 I actually found it quite interesting 03:04:10 since ICANN appears to be all lawyers and politicians, they ought to enjoy it :-) 03:04:14 i had some trouble following the mix of icann-speak and informal carl stuff 03:04:26 i liked the network diagram 03:04:38 "we have like 4000 redudancy everywhere" 03:05:31 yeah 03:05:43 and they're STILL lowering prices! take that, VeriSign! 03:06:14 It'd be cool if .org went back to being free to register. 03:06:27 I'm not sure why they're worried about speculation. 03:06:32 * AaronSw downloads all the RFCs... 03:07:08 somebody has to pay for all those sweet DS20Ls 03:07:58 i was seriously tempted to suggest they use djbdns 03:08:05 that'd show vixie 03:08:49 I wonder if we could convince ibiblio to host AudioGalaxy. 03:09:02 That would rock. 03:09:12 ibiblio, of course, is immune to copyright law. 03:17:21 .time pdt 03:17:22 Tue, 25 Jun 2002 21:18:27 PDT 03:22:02 .time +3 03:22:02 Wed, 26 Jun 2002 07:23:07 +3 03:22:43 .time est 03:22:43 Tue, 25 Jun 2002 23:23:49 EST 03:23:06 .time edt 03:23:06 Wed, 26 Jun 2002 00:24:11 EDT 03:36:36 kensaku has quit (Connection timed out) 03:42:36 wmf has quit ("BitchX: now Y2K compatible!") 04:41:07 * AaronSw -> sleep 04:55:08 bipolar__ (~bipolar@adsl-64-109-205-201.dsl.milwwi.ameritech.net) has joined #swhack 05:07:07 Ash-w (~aaron@166.70.121.30) has joined #swhack 05:18:55 I need a cute web designer like webchick, then I can be really productive. 05:19:46 HEY AARONSW 05:19:50 IT'S THE BRAK SHOW 05:19:55 brak? 05:20:33 heh! webchick is a registered trademark. 05:20:57 helakrhjlekarliweij 05:21:01 well my new UPSes KICK ASS 05:21:02 woo hoo! 05:21:04 * Ash-w dances 05:21:45 AaronSw has changed the topic to: IT'S THE ASH SHOW! 05:43:38 doid has left #swhack 05:46:33 doid (~chatzilla@host217-39-60-161.in-addr.btopenworld.com) has joined #swhack 06:06:40 bip0lar has quit (Remote closed the connection) 06:07:13 bipolar__ has quit (Remote closed the connection) 06:07:58 doid has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 06:20:48 * sbp waves 06:21:01 howdy 06:21:03 you're up early/late 06:21:24 early 06:21:30 [groan] 06:21:37 ah, right. 06:21:58 the sun is shining on the wrong side of buildings! 06:22:01 * AaronSw sends sbp a draft website 06:25:09 right. how did you spin that? 06:25:19 spin what? 06:25:22 well, perhaps I'm just delerious, but it seems like a good idea 06:25:31 um... how much can I discuss in here? 06:25:32 woohoo! 06:25:37 whatever you want 06:26:05 ah, good. spin: I mean, media.org? 06:26:26 [off] heh, I'm *so* tired I barely know what I'm talking about. I love days like these 06:26:43 it sounds rather webns-ish 06:26:52 yes 06:27:08 but better because of the distribution. the only problem will be if the site is mega-popular 06:27:19 getting lots of people to mirror the data is a really nice idea 06:27:19 yeah, i was so surprised. i emailed carl malamud (of media.org, ims, etc.) and he was like "oh yeah, becky and i love you too!" 06:27:35 Hmm... the name rings a bell 06:28:11 he was a featured super hero on my aaronsw weblog 06:28:18 and yet I don't have a single email from him... 06:28:23 aah, that'll be it, then 06:32:35 i realized several hours after i sent him that he was in bucharest, so i'm really surprised he replioed 06:32:35 .time +3 06:32:35 poor datum 06:32:35 Wed, 26 Jun 2002 10:33:40 +3 06:32:35 ah, so it's not just me 06:32:36 anyway, I'll try to deliver some new, fresh, updated, and improved thoughts later on 06:32:44 for now, I'm off 06:32:46 c'ya 06:32:50 thanks 06:32:54 ttyl 06:33:56 ooh, ICANN meeting 06:37:11 bip0lar__ (~bipolar@adsl-64-109-205-201.dsl.milwwi.ameritech.net) has joined #swhack 06:37:31 bip0lar__ has quit (Client Quit) 06:43:31 Mali[x]_ (~MAmiox@81.22.67.4) has joined #swhack 06:43:35 hi 06:48:17 wow, how did we get into this ICANN mess 06:49:32 me? 06:49:34 bIPOlar (~bipolar@adsl-64-109-205-201.dsl.milwwi.ameritech.net) has joined #swhack 06:49:41 bip0lar_ (~bipolar@adsl-64-109-205-201.dsl.milwwi.ameritech.net) has joined #swhack 06:55:46 Interesting: http://www.root-servers.org/ 06:57:15 mgrt ? 06:57:37 So we need to take those people over to fix ICANN. 06:57:59 well, UMD and ISC are pretty easy. 07:02:23 bye 07:02:31 Mali[x]_ has left #swhack 07:23:36 bip0lar_ has quit (Remote closed the connection) 07:23:37 bIPOlar has quit (Remote closed the connection) 07:30:56 wow, shazzam sounds awesome 07:31:34 .time +3 07:31:34 Wed, 26 Jun 2002 11:32:39 +3 07:31:41 .time cdt 07:31:41 Wed, 26 Jun 2002 03:32:46 CDT 07:32:03 * AaronSw -> sleep (attempt 2) 07:35:31 Ash-w has quit (Network is unreachable) 07:36:30 Ash-w (~aaron@166.70.121.30) has joined #swhack 07:36:39 bip0lar__ (~bipolar@adsl-64-109-205-201.dsl.milwwi.ameritech.net) has joined #swhack 07:40:20 BenSw has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 07:40:37 BenSw (~yoda@12-249-96-16.client.attbi.com) has joined #swhack 07:51:32 Hello Aaron, hello Ben 07:52:11 you two are busy coding away, eh? 08:46:10 Ash-w has quit (Excess Flood) 08:46:55 Ash-w (~aaron@166.70.121.30) has joined #swhack 08:50:29 bIPOlar (~bipolar@adsl-64-109-205-201.dsl.milwwi.ameritech.net) has joined #swhack 08:50:44 bIPOlar has quit (Client Quit) 09:17:04 I think they're probably asleep 09:17:07 .time -6 09:17:07 Wed, 26 Jun 2002 04:18:12 -6 09:27:01 that could be so 09:27:06 Hello, this is Kham 10:12:48 [GlobalNotice] Hi all. Apologies for interrupting your work. Currently #openprojects is +m. It's sad that on a network that's here to be a friendly forum for projects, a vocal minority can so control the main administrative channel. Please don't let those people be the only people expressing their viewpoints. Thanks. 10:43:53 pixel (~pixel@ns.bhsi.com) has joined #swhack 11:51:43 Morbus (~morbus@morbus.totalnetnh.net) has joined #swhack 11:53:45 hehehe 11:53:48 12:40:47 pixel is now known as brutus_ 12:52:10 brutus_ is now known as pixel 13:48:53 Hello. 13:52:54 .time +3 13:52:54 Wed, 26 Jun 2002 17:53:58 +3 14:02:20 ooh, vint cerf is leading the proposals 14:15:02 "some people think Verisign is the brother of satan... part of the axis of evil" 14:15:36 heh, heh. 14:16:06 eikeon has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 14:22:27 Heh, there's a DotOrg Foundation and a .Org Foundation 14:27:21 heh: "next is the period-org foundation" 14:28:39 wow, this group has Microsoft on their board... the other satan 14:29:15 heh, he says so 14:30:08 ugh, he was the ceo of homegrocer 14:41:42 ISOC uses PBG4 14:44:17 vint: "it's not fair that you should be screwed by an unscrewed screw" 14:44:33 (they're having problems with their laptop's vga connection) 14:47:24 the last people were clueless "there's no technical difference between a registrar and a registry" 14:47:36 ISOC is contracting with afilias... does anyone plan to actually do this? 14:47:49 Seth (~seth@12-230-243-179.client.attbi.com) has joined #swhack 14:48:01 * Seth waves at sbp 14:55:49 woohoo! malamud! 14:56:27 he uses a TiBook - yes! 14:57:23 vint: "another one of my faovirte mottos: power corrupts, powerpoint corrupts absolutely" 14:57:59 hm, 2 yrs old... maybe not a tibook 14:58:31 @ http://trusted.resource.org/presentation/ 14:58:52 E: http://trusted.resource.org/presentation/ from AaronSw 14:59:06 E:|IMS/ISC ICANN Briefing 14:59:08 titled item E 15:00:25 BSD licenses 15:00:43 E::BSD licenses for registrar and registry software 15:00:44 commented item E 15:03:44 eikeon (~eikeon@jungle.ne.client2.attbi.com) has joined #swhack 15:05:12 E::heh, the [anti-mcluhanites|http://www.media.org/] use [the term global village|http://trusted.resource.org/presentation/presentation-6.html]. 15:05:16 commented item E 15:08:55 * sbp waves 15:09:03 E::"Literally put our computers in the back of a station wagon, drove down to the SEC and configured their T1 line." 15:09:05 commented item E 15:09:27 full-stop-org! 15:12:03 hi sean 15:12:20 heh! http://not.invisible.net/participate/individuals/raffles/fathers.html 15:13:07 heh, neat 15:13:16 and I seem to recognize those names at the bottom... 15:23:42 ahem. *cough* 15:26:21 heh: http://www.PetitionOnline.com/mod_perl/signed.cgi?savelilo&1 15:27:27 heh! the signatories are quite funny 15:27:27 ash is clearly number 11 15:27:37 i'm glad he supports lilo 15:28:02 heh, heh 15:29:03 Hmm... "17. lilo-should-get-a-job irc_isnt_a_fulltime_job_or_even_parttime #lilo_stop_panhandling_you_tosser 9,000,000 " 15:29:24 bwahahaha! 15:29:51 poor lilo 15:30:45 heh: pandacop@prisoner.in.jai1.net 15:31:16 ah, I think it might be rejecting the channel name length 15:32:19 Hmm... 10 people signed it for real, vs. 16 that, well, didn't 15:32:46 which is kinda silly since they're still bumping the numbers up :-) 15:34:06 yeah 15:36:55 heh, => #openprojects 15:37:05 vint: "it's enormously tempting to imagine there might be another org called BAIT and that they'd join up with SWITCH" 15:37:09 lol: 15:37:09 wow, I just figured something out 15:37:09 the trolls have been filling up that petition 15:45:44 wassa GN? 15:45:58 GlobalNotice, i guess 15:46:09 SWITCH: "we're using industry standard TCP as our protocol" 15:46:17 ah, right 15:47:12 ROTFL 15:47:37 s/ROTFL/BWAHAHA!@ ROFFLE/ 15:47:41 please 15:47:43 heh heh 15:47:50 sbp: How are you enduring your anarchy today? 15:48:02 Ash-w, sbp left #infoanarchy a while ago 15:48:13 heh, heh. I was just about to say something rather similar 15:48:29 but it probably had more rude words 15:48:39 a plethora 15:48:57 AaronSw: I wasn't implying that he's in #infoanarchy 15:49:03 I just thought sbp was an anarchy kinda-guy. 15:49:15 I am a little bit anarchic, aren't I? 15:49:22 I was hoping that no one would notice 15:49:24 like a chicken 15:49:36 chicken anarchy rocks 15:49:54 of course while chickens merely run around, you actually chat on irc 15:50:03 far less productive 15:50:04 which is surprising, because i'm not sure how you'd be able to see the screen 15:50:46 if you were a chicken, you'd have like a little step-ladder or something 15:50:59 or your own little chicken-lift if you were a particularly rich chicken 15:50:59 "we bring new blood to the registry busines... esp since we're very near to the transylvania mountains" 15:51:08 muahahaha! 15:51:34 well, i mean a step ladder is going to help an anarchich chicken see the screen 15:51:51 right 15:53:03 lol 15:53:12 Man, lilo is such a wanker 15:53:21 It astounds me that people don't realize they're wankers 15:54:15 so you're saying that all OPN patrons are wankers? 15:54:24 * sbp is a great interviewer 15:54:39 sbp should be asking questions about these dot-org proposals 15:54:57 sbp: Yes, I'm saying that all OPN patrons are wankers. 15:54:58 Except me. 15:55:02