00:06:58 http://infomesh.net/2002/n3s/ 00:15:19 Morbus has quit (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 00:18:39 eikeonborg (~eikeon@jungle.ne.client2.attbi.com) has joined #swhack 00:18:45 Muhahhahahaha :) 00:18:53 spam? 00:20:29 spam? 00:21:29 spam? 00:21:29 spam, spam, eggs, and spam! 00:21:38 evil 00:21:43 It is working when I send to myself... 00:21:49 Ah... did you get the response. 00:22:01 i only got it when i asked 00:22:01 MorbusIff has quit ("http://www.disobey.com/") 00:22:07 Its working then! 00:22:15 whee! 00:22:24 n3s? 00:22:31 good job 00:22:35 I feel half human half machine ;) 00:22:37 bye bye bot 00:22:48 Only have the one rule ;) 00:22:51 :-) 00:22:52 Good try. 00:23:13 I am pysched! 00:24:54 * eikeonborg replacement day :-) 00:25:17 s/eikeonborg/eikeon/ 00:25:25 eikeon->eikeonborg 00:43:04 :-) 00:49:52 sbp, sent an rdf schema your emailly way 01:02:05 on patents: 01:02:06 Kramer: What are you guys talking about? 01:02:06 Seinfeld: They're re-opening the Rainbow Room at Rockefeller Center. 01:02:06 Kramer: What? That was MY idea! 01:02:06 Seinfeld: Which part of the idea was yours? The million dollars you don't 01:02:06 HAVE, or the building you don't OWN? 01:18:20 Pff, Seinfeld. I had that idea ages ago 01:18:52 * sbp checks his emaily way and finds an emaily email 01:20:25 lol @ Salon's Webby Speech 01:20:26 Salon.com: "We know deep throat is..." 01:21:39 yeah, read that. it's quite interesting 01:22:05 actually, I also read the site of that class that has been investiagting the thing for years 01:24:55 read what now? 01:25:08 ah: http://www.comm.uiuc.edu/spike/deepthroat/ 01:25:33 ah, they put the article up finally 01:25:38 i was quoting their webby speech, actually 01:26:15 ah 01:26:33 oh, you bought the book? 01:26:44 pardon? 01:27:12 Salon.com has a new book, "Unmasking Deep Throat" 01:27:24 I read the salon.com article (about the book), and the class report in Spike 01:29:01 it's interesting that Woodward says he'll tell people who it was when he (Woodward) dies 01:30:13 I don't know why he doesn't just say who it is now. "Journalistic ethics" he says, but it seems a bit weird that he's prepared to blab about it in his obituary or whatever 01:31:04 yeah, it's apparently a very complicated thing in his will 01:31:16 it has to be 25 years after he dies, unless deep throat dies first 01:31:43 aha 01:45:42 wow, google archived it 01:54:31 anex_ (~xena@12-249-96-16.client.attbi.com) has joined #swhack 01:54:36 .google plex 01:54:41 .google google plex 01:54:42 anex_ has quit (Remote closed the connection) 01:55:03 anex_ (~xena@12-249-96-16.client.attbi.com) has joined #swhack 01:55:06 .google google plex 01:55:18 .google google plex 01:55:21 anex_ has quit (Excess Flood) 01:55:56 anex_ (~xena@12-249-96-16.client.attbi.com) has joined #swhack 01:55:58 anex_ has quit (Remote closed the connection) 01:56:21 anex_ (~xena@12-249-96-16.client.attbi.com) has joined #swhack 01:56:21 anex_ has quit (Remote closed the connection) 01:58:12 anex_ (~xena@12-249-96-16.client.attbi.com) has joined #swhack 01:58:12 anex_ has quit (Remote closed the connection) 01:58:18 anex_ (~xena@12-249-96-16.client.attbi.com) has joined #swhack 01:58:28 .google google plex 01:58:28 anex_ has quit (Remote closed the connection) 02:00:26 anex_ (~xena@12-249-96-16.client.attbi.com) has joined #swhack 02:00:28 .google google plex 02:00:29 google plex: http://www.google.com/plex/ 02:00:44 * eikeonborg is leaving to go modify himself some more. 02:00:50 eikeonborg has quit ("Client Exiting") 02:00:57 anex_ has quit (Remote closed the connection) 02:02:22 javascript:var%20d=new%20Date();d.setTime(d.getTime());month=(d.getMonth()+1);if(%20month<10){month=%220%22+month};void(location=('http://blogspace.com/swhack/chatlogs/'+(d.getFullYear())+%22-%22+month+%22-%22+d.getDate()+%22.txt%22)) 02:02:54 is this a script to do the equivalent of http://blogspace.com/swhack/chatlogs/latest ? 02:02:57 might want to escape that "<" too: %3C 02:03:02 yep 02:03:08 heh. oh well 02:06:02 neat! 02:06:02 useful for the notabug logs 02:06:24 revised: javascript:var%20d=new%20Date();d.setTime(d.getTime());month=(d.getMonth()+1);if(%20month%3C10){month='0'+month};void(location=('http://blogspace.com/swhack/chatlogs/'+(d.getFullYear())+'-'+month+'-'+d.getDate()+'.txt')) 02:07:29 anex has quit (Remote closed the connection) 02:07:37 annex! 02:08:00 nothing to worry about, m'dear 02:08:07 the new improved anex with Google is comign! 02:08:11 ooh 02:08:15 anex (~xena@63.149.73.20) has joined #swhack 02:08:23 m'dear?! now that's something to worry about :-) 02:08:28 .google sbp 02:08:30 sbp: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dsbp%26hl%3Den%26lr%3D%26sa%3DI&q=stocks:SBP+ 02:08:38 Mmmkay 02:09:05 you have a problem with being dear to me? 02:09:25 hahah, santander bancorp holdings wins again 02:09:28 .google aaron 02:09:30 aaron: http://www.aaronsw.com/ 02:09:33 oh, sorry, I thought you said "deer" 02:09:38 heh 02:09:38 yeah, damn thing 02:09:45 anex has quit (Remote closed the connection) 02:09:48 it's the bane of my Googly homepage presence 02:09:52 anex (~xena@63.149.73.20) has joined #swhack 02:10:02 now that the State Bank of Pakistan is no longer a problem 02:11:01 .google infomesh 02:11:03 infomesh: http://infomesh.net/ 02:11:04 .google infomesh sbp 02:11:13 aw 02:11:14 infomesh sbp: http://infomesh.net/sbp/ 02:11:19 oh, just slow 02:11:32 I wonder why it's so slow 02:11:53 you probably archive all of the search results 02:12:01 spider the entire sites... 02:12:16 not such a bad idea, actually :-) 02:12:20 heh 02:12:50 anex has quit (Remote closed the connection) 02:12:56 anex (~xena@63.149.73.20) has joined #swhack 02:12:57 .google infomesh 02:12:59 .google infomesh 02:13:00 .google infomesh sbp 02:13:02 infomesh: http://infomesh.net/ 02:13:04 infomesh: http://infomesh.net/ 02:13:06 infomesh sbp: http://infomesh.net/sbp/ 02:13:09 .google quicker 02:13:09 .google infomesh sbp 02:13:10 quicker: http://www.pageresource.com/zine/quicker.htm 02:13:11 infomesh sbp: http://infomesh.net/sbp/ 02:13:18 that's a little better, i guess 02:13:22 yeah 02:13:34 oh wait. i didn't change anything. heh 02:13:39 anex has quit (Remote closed the connection) 02:13:48 anex (~xena@63.149.73.20) has joined #swhack 02:13:50 .google infomesh sbp 02:13:51 heh, it's the placebo effect 02:13:51 .google infomesh sbp 02:13:53 .google infomesh 02:13:54 infomesh sbp: http://infomesh.net/sbp/ 02:13:56 infomesh sbp: http://infomesh.net/sbp/ 02:13:57 .google placebo 02:13:58 infomesh: http://infomesh.net/ 02:14:00 placebo: http://www.thebsh.com/ 02:14:03 .google infomesh 02:14:03 infomesh: http://infomesh.net/ 02:14:08 .google the bends 02:14:09 the bends: http://www.pbs.org/ktca/newtons/11/bends.html 02:14:19 .google Sir Issac Newton 02:14:21 Sir Issac Newton: http://www-gap.dcs.st-and.ac.uk/~history/Mathematicians/Newton.html 02:14:29 .google for all sorts of Googly stuff 02:14:30 for all sorts of Googly stuff: http://www.geocities.com/dragonsprite587/Fanfic.html 02:14:47 whoa! 02:15:05 eikeon has quit ("Client Exiting") 02:15:23 what up? 02:15:36 twas an interesting result 02:16:10 anex has quit (Excess Flood) 02:16:15 perhaps "Googley" is the proper spelling 02:16:20 flood? 02:16:33 guess i should put back in the anti-flood code. sigh 02:17:18 anex (~xena@63.149.73.20) has joined #swhack 02:17:22 anex has quit (Excess Flood) 02:17:27 heh 02:17:59 if that's the demonstration of the new anti-flood code, I have to say that I'm a little underwhelmed by it 02:18:01 anex (~xena@63.149.73.20) has joined #swhack 02:18:09 heh 02:18:52 'twas the 15 senses of stuff that did it in 02:19:25 ah, you're wordnetting it behind the curtain? 02:19:41 yep 02:20:01 the nice thing about the new API is that if you just 'return' the response it'll support /msgs too 02:20:12 neat 02:20:18 well, one nice thing :) 02:20:33 indumbledybump 02:21:15 i think anex hits an 80/20 point 02:21:28 80 percent of the things people ask it, 20 percent of the code size :) 02:21:59 all things are like visions beyond the reach of the human mind 02:21:59 You and Marge Simpson need to get drunk and have a long existential chat. 02:22:00 yeah. how big are anex/xena, then? 02:22:16 heh, um... 02:22:30 from #infoanarchy, of course 02:22:39 anex is 106 lines... xena is at least 106 files :) 02:22:46 ah, it suddenly makes sense 02:22:54 sounds about right 02:23:05 but that makes it more like 80/1 02:23:41 I lost weight! 02:23:45 lol 02:24:07 wow, you got all that AI in in just 106 lines? 02:24:10 :-) 02:24:24 we need a catchy name for our irc lib 02:24:33 That's the magic of $CATCHYNAME! 02:24:41 irclib 02:24:47 cliber 02:24:58 climber 02:25:02 cribil 02:25:03 limber 02:25:13 bilcri 02:25:16 pentyunderskefflewad 02:25:21 Hmm... too long 02:25:36 I lost 105 files on the pentyunderskefflewad diet... yeah, too long. 02:26:07 "Aaron Swartz's Monstorama IRC Library, Now With Added Maple Syrup" 02:26:12 I guess I should put password proection on the puppeteer functions. 02:26:19 er, nick protection at least 02:26:51 * sbp tries to guess the mechanism, briefly 02:27:08 anex has quit (Remote closed the connection) 02:27:16 heh. oh well 02:27:17 oops, guess that function needs some work 02:27:55 ah, was I rightomundo? 02:28:13 no, i think that was me 02:28:19 tsk 02:28:33 well, it was eik's bug :) 02:28:49 I like Eik 02:29:11 now, why did you mention n3s earlier? 02:29:27 to increase its googlejuice 02:30:00 anex (~xena@63.149.73.20) has joined #swhack 02:30:04 it wasn't first on the obcvious query 02:30:06 .google n3s 02:30:08 n3s: http://www.simulog.fr/is/2n3s1.htm 02:30:11 by giving it a good old swhacking over? thanks :-) 02:30:16 heh! 02:30:23 gotta counter balance http://infomesh.net/2002/n3s/ 02:30:29 oops, guess that bug is still there... 02:30:35 errf, a new bug this time. my fault 02:30:49 no wait, still eik's fault 02:31:06 anex has quit (Remote closed the connection) 02:31:12 anex (~xena@63.149.73.20) has joined #swhack 02:31:18 for the logs: [anex:#swhack ACTIONdodges] sbp's guesses 02:31:36 huh? 02:31:47 try putting a space in there 02:31:59 anex has quit (Remote closed the connection) 02:32:03 anex (~xena@63.149.73.20) has joined #swhack 02:32:06 i did... guess i didn't cvs up fast enough 02:32:09 * anex dodges sbp's guesses 02:32:13 there we go 02:32:16 wonderblump 02:33:13 Hmm... I think I'm going to make a foray for food 02:33:22 heh: "How much of this was voluntary and how much due to reflex nerve action is speculation. Most nations with science sophisticated enough to determine this question have long since abandoned decapitation as a legal tool." 02:35:49 ok, it's now passworded so only the trusted three may use it 02:36:50 trusted three: sbp, eik, and thee? 02:36:55 indeed 02:37:23 This is a test of the emergency notice system. Were this a real emergency I would have run out of the room screaming long ago. 02:37:24 many thanks served up on a platter with parsely to garnish 02:37:28 heh 02:38:24 did you see that notice in other channels? 02:38:34 nope 02:42:05 * AaronSw looks at integrating his other sundry bots 02:46:19 capital idea Mr. Swartz! top-o 02:47:43 .google servitudal 02:47:50 servitudal: http://www.acts.co.za/sec_titles/30__Anci.htm 02:48:04 damn 02:48:22 Aaron: .googlecount, per chance? 02:48:49 can you mail me the code to u googlecount? 02:48:57 ah, tx 02:49:47 :-) 02:53:19 any more feature reqs while i'm at it? 02:55:52 anex_ (~xena@12-249-96-16.client.attbi.com) has joined #swhack 02:56:05 make it able to coin words, perhaps? 02:56:05 .googlecount servitudal 02:56:06 servitudal: 27 02:56:09 whoo! 02:56:24 .relay 12.249.96.16 02:56:24 anex_ has quit (Remote closed the connection) 02:56:32 anex_ (~xena@12-249-96-16.client.attbi.com) has joined #swhack 02:56:32 relay? 02:56:35 .relay 12.249.96.16 02:56:36 added 12.249.96.16 to relay-ctrl, you have 900000 seconds. 02:57:05 it decides who gets to relay thru my smtp server 02:57:12 ooh 02:58:36 I think it should have an Ash mode, where everything is capitalized and mispelt 02:58:41 heh 02:59:07 .ashize i love you 02:59:17 I LUVVE JOO!!!!(!(!&*@&*@ 02:59:17 I LUV YOUE!?! 02:59:20 heh, heh 02:59:38 you know the riaa is evil when they make my 54 year old mother cry when she hears they forced audiogalaxy to shut down 03:00:07 (effectivly shut down i should say) 03:00:08 awww 03:00:18 of course my mothers always moody but jeeez! 03:00:19 \topic RIAA: Making people's 54 year old mothers cry since 19xx 03:00:21 yeah, even lisa rein's songs are blocked 03:01:07 she uses osx and my sister uses linux so there is really no foolproof system for them to get music anymore 03:01:41 my sister could figure out some of the other ones but my mother would never be able to understand things like kazaa, ag was just so easy 03:03:01 i always get scared when i see a referer for a google search for "adam wendt" like the FBI is looking for me or something 03:03:50 over half my google referers today are for 'audiogalaxy closed' and things like that 03:04:04 [off] You mean "Adam Wendt" the cyber porn hippie freak sex Britney Spears terrorist pron magnate? 03:04:32 probably 03:04:48 [off] [off]! unless you *really* want that in the logs :-) 03:05:28 [off] lol i think i've sent that kind of thing in a few emails, there is SOOOO much dirt on me on the internet already 03:05:38 [off] heh, heh 03:05:48 [off] .google dirt on Adam Wendt 03:06:08 NEWS UPDATE: RIAA, MPAA, BDPG, Disney Merge To Create RIMPBDisneyAAAAPG 03:06:14 remoford (~remoford@h-64-105-194-115.ATLNGAHP.covad.net) has joined #swhack 03:06:43 [off] amazingly 'dirt on adam wendt' returns nothing about me in the top 10 results 03:07:06 jeremiah (~jeremiah@ip68-10-31-209.hr.hr.cox.net) has joined #swhack 03:07:11 morning 03:07:15 evening 03:07:18 [off] so maybe i am safe 03:07:19 yo remoford, Jeremiah 03:07:29 [off] maybe you are, chief... maybe you are... 03:07:29 hi sbp 03:07:41 sbp: why are you awake at 5 am local time? 03:07:52 wmf (~wmf@cs666868-69.austin.rr.com) has joined #swhack 03:08:03 .time bst 03:08:03 Thu, 20 Jun 2002 05:08:06 BST 03:08:03 Thu, 20 Jun 2002 05:08:38 BST 03:08:07 heh 03:08:19 the channel's overrun with bots! 03:08:22 * sbp is either drunk or... 03:08:25 did you just wake up or have you not yet gone to sleep? 03:08:31 not gone to sleep yet 03:08:38 I've had a busy day 03:08:44 oh 03:08:53 I just saw The Bourne Identity 03:08:55 anex_ has quit (Remote closed the connection) 03:08:58 good movie 03:09:00 although I'm usually up at around this time 03:09:05 .google "The Bourne Identity" 03:09:07 "The Bourne Identity": http://www.apple.com/trailers/universal/the_bourne_identity/ 03:09:12 that looks good 03:09:29 it has some awesome fight scenes 03:09:34 and an interesting plot 03:10:14 so who here wants a cell phone in their tooth? 03:10:27 Aaron: BTW, anex sounds like an anal gel to me. you might want to think about that 03:10:36 heh 03:10:42 thank you for sharing 03:10:43 cell phone in their tooth? 03:10:45 sbp: how often do you shop for anal gel :) 03:10:56 oh yeah, AaronSw doesn't read /, 03:11:18 never. but Morbus often talks about it, and... :-) 03:11:41 .google slashcomma 03:11:42 slashcomma: http://stewarts.slashcomma.com/ 03:11:51 oh SHIT 03:11:54 it's so great having .google capabilities back again 03:11:57 apple dropped 3 points today 03:12:02 [off] my writing was amazingly bad 4 years ago: http://groups.google.com/groups?q=%22adam+wendt%22&start=10&hl=en&lr=&safe=off&scoring=d&selm=36E231DC.A1A34510%40hotmail.com&rnum=19 (not that its any better now) 03:12:24 [off] thats my first usenet post i can find 03:13:13 J: don't worry, they'll probably be bought out by MS or something tomorrow 03:13:15 [off] heh 03:13:36 at least I'm still somewhat in the black 03:14:13 anex has quit (Remote closed the connection) 03:14:14 anex_ (~xena@63.149.73.20) has joined #swhack 03:14:29 tansaku_xj has quit ("http://www.neurogrid.net or nothing at all") 03:14:37 wait... nope I'm not in the black 03:14:49 [off] and i was spouting stuff i wasn't sure about: http://groups.google.com/groups?q=%22adam+wendt%22&start=10&hl=en&lr=&safe=off&scoring=d&selm=slrn7e5mua.78b.bem%40thorin.cmc.net&rnum=18 03:15:02 anex_ has quit (Remote closed the connection) 03:15:15 xena (~xena@63.149.73.20) has joined #swhack 03:15:49 thelsdj: that last one isn't too far off 03:15:54 http://www.theregus.com/content/53/25289.html 03:16:15 [off] i asked stupid questions: http://groups.google.com/groups?q=%22adam+wendt%22&start=10&hl=en&lr=&safe=off&scoring=d&selm=36EB67C1.8811286E%40goo.dynip.com&rnum=16 (actually to this day i still think that should be a feature) 03:16:38 Sun Linux? 03:16:45 read more 03:16:53 heh: http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/31/10719.html 03:17:13 El Reg bashes InfoWorld's hyperlinks 03:17:15 ah, they complain about the mornonic hyperlingks 03:17:17 jinx 03:17:39 i like how they unlinked infoworld as punishment 03:17:39 oh wait you're the comment above not the well informed one talking about micro-kernels 03:18:04 heh! "Fancy an Editors' Award for your very dull product? Simply rush your free sample to us (no WAP phones, please) and a highly sought after Register Golden Vulture� accolade can be yours for a mere �1000." 03:18:19 they finger moles?! 03:18:24 * AaronSw stops reporting to the reg 03:18:37 heh 03:20:42 I stopped in and read some of Wolfram's book today at barnes and noble 03:20:45 I wasn't very impressed 03:22:07 thats like kurzweil's links, half of his don't even link to the same context as what he's writing about 03:22:27 thelsdj, that's the power of AI! 03:22:31 lol 03:22:32 damn, look at k5 03:22:38 giving you things in the incorrect context? 03:22:46 I wonder if I could make $70K in a week 03:23:02 hahah, i've blogged the k5 thing twice 03:23:02 wmf: I've got some emails about that I could forward you... 03:23:04 you didn't see that on boingboing? 03:23:12 already 'donated' $120 03:23:35 oh, they have a counter 03:24:04 pro: less annoying than NPR pledge drives 03:24:14 what chance in there of an ESPRA server coming back online? 03:24:15 what're we talking about here? 03:24:19 s/in/is/ 03:24:35 sbp, very good 03:24:40 I think Raph's the only one who actually read that SEDA paper 03:25:14 groan, K5 swimsuit edition 03:25:49 uh oh, agl is taking me to task 03:25:52 i think the best part about k5 is the logo 03:26:00 Gotta run 03:26:14 AaronSw: I never realized the logo until you mentioned it 03:26:52 heh, htp has gotten shorter for sure 03:27:04 .google SEDA 03:27:05 SEDA: http://www.seda.demon.co.uk/ 03:27:16 .google Matt Welsh SEDA 03:27:17 Matt Welsh SEDA: http://www.cs.berkeley.edu/~mdw/ 03:28:06 ok 03:29:09 heh: http://web.archive.org/web/20020127175549/slashdot.org/robots.txt 03:29:28 heh 03:29:54 hey, I didn't know slashdot was hosted at UserLand :-) 03:30:03 ba-dump-ching 03:30:16 you'd think /. could handle being /.ed 03:30:22 thank you, I'm here all week 03:30:57 swapswap 03:31:25 atadatem 03:33:15 Swaporage 03:36:43 whoa, 6751 hits yesterday 03:38:42 benefit #671 of working for a BigCo: when your paycheck gets delivered to somewhere that only marginally approximates where you work 03:39:41 anyway, time for bed 03:39:46 Don't tell me you need 300 more comps to narrow 03:39:52 the heisenlocation of your paycheck 03:39:58 s/comps/computers/ 03:40:08 man, you're off to sleep early 03:40:13 beer 03:40:20 ah 03:40:47 I redesigned the experiment so that it's less realistic and we may get by with 20 machines 03:45:29 anyone know of any rdf-based systems to handle filesystems? 03:45:37 err, wait 03:45:48 I mean, like an actual filesystem that uses RDF for all it's stuff? 03:45:51 wmf has quit ("dreaming of beowulf clusters") 03:46:10 I'm thinking of taking that project for a filesystem I wanted to work on a while ago and merging it with the goals that Plesh has 03:46:23 or making it run on top of the semplesh 03:51:29 http://humor.student.utwente.nl/index.php?n=6 < oh dear 04:01:58 walloper has quit (Remote closed the connection) 04:02:28 farewell, walloper. you have served us well 04:03:23 Ash has changed the topic to: walloper you suck 04:03:26 ehehehe 04:06:25 AaronSw has changed the topic to: say hello to datum 04:06:25 datum (~datum@63.149.73.20) has joined #swhack 04:09:06 datum has left #swhack 04:09:08 datum (~datum@63.149.73.20) has joined #swhack 04:15:25 tansaku_xj (~sam@mtl13gw.mtl.t.u-tokyo.ac.jp) has joined #swhack 07:23:19 Ash has quit (Remote closed the connection) 07:28:05 Ash (~amathews@166.70.45.199) has joined #swhack 07:53:29 tansaku_xj is now known as zooko_ 07:53:43 zooko_ is now known as tansaku_xj 08:24:11 tansaku_xj has quit ("http://www.neurogrid.net or nothing at all") 09:28:16 tansaku_xj (~sam@n144-001.tokyu-net.catv.ne.jp) has joined #swhack 09:50:35 [GlobalNotice] Hi all. If you haven't had a chance, please take a look at http://somegeek.org/status.html (updated June 19). The site may be overloaded at first but please give it a try. Thanks. 11:52:48 Morbus (~morbus@morbus.totalnetnh.net) has joined #swhack 12:11:43 you there morb? 12:35:41 Morbus has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 12:37:54 Morbus (~morbus@morbus.totalnetnh.net) has joined #swhack 12:40:12 SethR (~seth@12-230-243-179.client.attbi.com) has joined #swhack 12:40:29 hi sean 12:40:55 how's your api comming? 12:46:58 MorbusIff (~morbus@morbus.totalnetnh.net) has joined #swhack 12:47:25 Morbus has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 12:48:49 * SethR waves to deltab 13:14:56 * deltab notices, waves back 13:21:45 deltab, how do you stop the server (besides of course ctrl+alt+delete) ? 13:21:55 what server? 13:22:23 the server you sketched for me http://robustai.net/sailor/ 13:22:51 ctrl-c 13:24:11 nope, ctrl-c dont stop it 13:24:31 what OS? 13:24:42 windows dos box 13:25:01 close the window 13:25:14 does ctrl-c stop it on unix ? 13:25:25 yes, and should in windows too 13:25:36 hmm, try ctrl-break 13:28:00 ctrl-break works 13:28:57 you know of a unix internet domain where i can test the server at ? 13:29:15 a what? 13:29:59 i havent tested it running in a domain, just as localhost 13:31:09 i want to go http://somedomain:729/somewhere/introApi.html and get the server 13:32:15 all ive tested so far is http://localhost:729/introApi.html 13:33:34 yours is 12-230-243-179.client.attbi.com 13:34:07 hmmm .. let me try 13:36:42 socket.error: (10049, "Can't assign requested address") 13:37:06 give the IP address instead 13:37:33 you mean 12.230.243.179 13:37:39 yes 13:38:12 MorbusIff is now known as Morbus 13:38:14 same thing 13:38:27 or 0, which will bind to all addresses on your machine 13:40:05 same error with 12.230.243.0 ... i got a router between me and the cabel modem ... do you think that is the prob? 13:42:15 six degrees seems less helpful that Apple Mail's incremental search 13:43:19 aaron, can you help with running a server behind a router + att cabel ? 13:43:41 i think att blocks port 80 13:43:58 ah, a router with nat? 13:44:00 but i am using port 729 13:44:41 router is an smc ... what is a nat? 13:45:39 xena has quit (Remote closed the connection) 13:47:08 NAT is network address translation 13:47:48 i got the router admin up where do i look to answer your question? 13:49:16 anything about addresses? 13:49:37 title of the page says: 13:49:40 tansaku_xe (~sam@h131-028.tokyu-net.catv.ne.jp) has joined #swhack 13:49:56 Multi-Functional Broadband NAT Router(R1,86) 13:50:01 Access Control 13:50:12 Enable is not checked 13:51:32 im gonna try enable, allow, ports 729 13:53:28 by the way, that port is registered: netviewdm1 729/tcp IBM NetView DM/6000 Server/Client 13:58:09 SethRuss (~seth@12-230-243-179.client.attbi.com) has joined #swhack 13:58:26 apparently i disabeled my irc 14:00:22 SethR has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 14:01:11 SethR now knowns as SethRuss 14:01:41 tansaku_xj has quit (Success) 14:03:44 i guess i got to call for help on the SMC router, dont's know how to figure this out 14:04:31 first im not sure what the ip address of my computer is, second i dont know how to get any port through the router 14:06:17 How do you not know what the IP address of your computer is? 14:06:34 im stupid ? 14:06:58 Like that's not obvious already. Usually you can type in a command to find out what your current IP is. 14:07:03 Win2k: ipconfig /all 14:07:09 Linux: /sbin/ifconfig 14:07:15 etc 14:07:41 fine, so what's the command for win32 14:07:52 Umm. 14:07:58 ipconfig /all should work if you're on NT or win2k. 14:08:05 winipcfg if you're on win98 or something. 14:08:18 It's really not hard. 14:10:23 ok, so far so good .. got a long list of stuff ... what am i looking for ? 14:11:18 bitsko (~ken@msp-65-25-239-152.mn.rr.com) has joined #swhack 14:11:29 should i just use my Host Name which is 14:11:45 You wanted the IP address, didn't you? 14:11:50 It should be listed in there. 14:12:53 i got Ethernet adapter IP address = 192.168.123.101 14:12:56 is that it? 14:13:06 Yes. 14:15:37 Kewl, thanks Ash it works .. now can you see it? 14:15:39 http://192.168.123.101:729/introApi.html 14:15:43 that will work on your side of the router only 14:15:52 192.168.0.0 is a private subnet. 14:16:17 so how do it get it out to the world? 14:16:19 If you want to know your external IP address, go to www.whatismyipaddress.com and it should tell you what your IP address is on the outside world 14:16:53 when you make connections out, the NAT function of the router translates internal addresses to your external address 14:17:24 and keeps track of which machines on your network made which connections 14:17:31 ok but that is the ip address that the server will not bind to :( 14:17:46 SethRuss: You need more help than we can provide. 14:18:09 SethRuss: can you bind to 192.168.123.101? 14:18:29 SethRuss: the SMC box translates the outside address to the inside address if you've set that up. 14:18:37 yep i can bind to 192.168.123.101 :) 14:19:10 So theoretically you should be able to set up a NAT rule on the SMC box to translate all incoming traffic for 12.230.243.179 to 192.168.123.101 14:19:33 not all, just on the chosen port 14:19:56 hmmmm .. where be the NAT rules ? 14:20:19 deltab: Indeed. 14:20:25 well, it may be smart enough to handle both 14:20:41 SethRuss: Usually settings on the SMC box. Check your documentation, look for nat or Network Address Translation 14:20:43 anyway bbiaf 14:21:13 SethRuss: do you have a model number for the SMC? 14:22:05 SMC7004BR 14:22:43 yay, the user guide is on the Web 14:24:56 its got a page that looks like Virtual Server .. got to reboot the router to make it effect 14:24:58 see pages 20 onwards 14:32:34 * sbp waves 14:38:37 hey sbp 14:42:40 So the policy is borne of "either cluelessness or evil -- and I'd like to think that the Car Talk and tote bag people aren't evil." 14:42:44 - Cory Doctorow 14:42:52 AaronSw has changed the topic to: Cory: "I'd like to think that the Car Talk and tote bag people aren't evil." 14:46:52 Morbus has quit ("http://www.disobey.com/") 14:47:24 * AaronSw parodies NPR on his weblog 14:48:59 Morbus (~morbus@morbus.totalnetnh.net) has joined #swhack 14:52:00 SethRuss has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 14:53:03 -- 14:53:04 btw y'all if we're going to be a world-class irc team we need to communicate. 14:53:04 Yeah. 14:53:04 We have the talent, and the dedication. 14:53:04 COMMUNICATE 14:53:04 We could make it to the majors, man. 14:53:05 -- 14:53:34 SethRuss (~seth@12-230-243-179.client.attbi.com) has joined #swhack 14:54:41 bitsko has quit ("Leaving") 15:05:10 hehe 15:43:05 SethRuss has quit () 15:53:38 SethRuss (~seth@12-230-243-179.client.attbi.com) has joined #swhack 16:25:10 * SethRuss waves at sbp 16:43:45 yo 16:44:09 yo sbpster 16:44:18 sup ma' Swartzster? 16:44:53 [off] wot iz yo been up ta m th doin, widjya skip for to me bro? 16:45:32 [off] [whistle] coherance? here boy! 16:49:59 sbp, how's you api comming? 16:50:38 haven't worked on it for a while, but it's been "done" for ages now 16:50:41 just a case of releasing it 16:50:57 can i have a copy? 16:51:04 yep 16:51:08 => PMSG 17:00:33 Gotta run 17:05:11 redmonk (~steve@ip68-2-102-26.ph.ph.cox.net) has joined #swhack 17:05:22 *BAMPH!* 17:05:24 * redmonk appears 17:07:13 redmonk! 17:08:30 aaronsw! 17:09:46 how's the jobsearching going ( check out #jobs) 17:10:16 GabeW (~chatzilla@adsl-216-101-18-99.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net) has joined #swhack 17:12:27 not bad. had an interview on tuesday 17:13:12 which went on 17:13:15 er, ok 17:19:22 remoford has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 17:59:25 justme (~justme@rot2-p0750.dial.wanadoo.nl) has joined #swhack 18:02:47 s'happening people? 18:06:41 people are probably busy upgrading their servers ;) 18:09:15 upg? 18:14:37 I think everyone dissappeared. 18:15:37 anyone have any insight on how perl handles the .= operator and memory? 18:17:50 pixel: perldoc perlguts might givr you hints 18:18:23 hadn't gotten that far down the docs yet =) 18:18:26 thanks, 18:19:04 * AaronSw pokes Morbus 18:19:48 I think he's alseep. 18:35:54 gac (~chatzilla@gw.wamsystems.com) has joined #swhack 18:36:02 i am not asleep. 18:36:05 i was in a meeting. 18:36:11 now, i sleep. 18:36:59 hehe 18:39:39 thelsdj has quit (Remote closed the connection) 18:48:37 thelsdj (~adam@p47.tc3.rnktel.net) has joined #swhack 19:11:23 * Morbus pokes Aaron. 19:16:01 GabeW has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 19:30:27 gac has quit ("ChatZilla 0.8.7 [Mozilla rv:1.0.0/20020530]") 19:50:23 * jeremiah is away: work 19:55:43 Gotta run 20:09:25 redmonk has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 20:10:18 justme has quit (No route to host) 20:34:28 * sbp puts on "Walk on the Wild Side" 20:50:59 Morbus has quit ("http://www.disobey.com/") 20:55:16 SethRuss has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 21:11:54 Morbus (morbus@s109.terminal3.totalnetnh.net) has joined #swhack 21:13:08 hi ho! 21:15:10 [[[ 21:15:10 [6:13] * ronwalf stares at Wilbur 21:15:10 [6:13] * Morbus peers at ronwalf 21:15:10 [6:15] Wilbur is probably more intruiging 21:15:10 [6:15] is he a pig? 21:15:15 [6:15] * Morbus looks for a semantic Web. 21:15:15 ]]] 21:20:46 AaronSw, you round? 21:20:46 i miss you. 21:24:23 GabeW (~chatzilla@adsl-216-101-18-99.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net) has joined #swhack 21:24:47 GabeW: HOW DO YOU like chatzilla? 21:24:56 Love it 21:25:03 its great - some little bugs 21:25:06 but nothing showstopping 21:25:45 what's special about it? 21:25:45 or just a straightforward irc? 21:26:05 its part of mozilla - written with the XUL stuff in mozilla - ie in javascript 21:26:11 but you'd never know it using it 21:26:39 MorbusIff (morbus@s109.terminal3.totalnetnh.net) has joined #swhack 21:27:23 MorbusIff has quit (Remote closed the connection) 21:29:32 whoo. expat 1.95.3 compiles cleanly on os x 21:30:04 whoo whoo - expat is now on cygwin 21:30:11 on the installer to be specific 21:30:18 whoo! 21:30:22 there's an expat for win32 too :) 21:30:26 ah well 21:31:09 things taste better in CygWin 21:31:25 argh. 21:31:41 i'm waiting for cygwin to become its own os 21:31:47 heh 21:32:14 i can run X with windowmaker full screen and I can almost imagine it 21:33:04 oh. 21:33:09 have to rebuild XML::Parser. 21:33:46 woo, woo, no more seg falt 21:33:52 now, i get to try the same thing on windows. 21:33:52 hah, that will be fun. 21:33:52 sigh. 22:12:27 Morbus has quit (No route to host) 22:14:45 oierw` is now known as oierw 22:20:17 Morbus (morbus@s100.terminal3.totalnetnh.net) has joined #swhack 22:46:15 i think i have arthritis in my legs. 22:54:54 Seth (~seth@12-230-243-179.client.attbi.com) has joined #swhack 23:10:32 tansaku_xe has quit ("http://www.neurogrid.net or nothing at all") 23:12:14 wmf (~wmf@cs666868-69.austin.rr.com) has joined #swhack 23:12:36 * Morbus adds another dumb easter egg to Ampheta. 23:13:17 ooh 23:17:30 GabeW has quit ("ChatZilla 0.8.7 [Mozilla rv:1.0.0/20020530]") 23:43:06 sbp has quit (Remote closed the connection) 23:43:58 sbp (~sean@63.149.73.20) has joined #swhack