IRC log of swhack on 2002-06-20

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00:06:58 [AaronSw]
http://infomesh.net/2002/n3s/
00:15:19 [Morbus]
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00:18:39 [eikeonborg]
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00:18:45 [eikeonborg]
Muhahhahahaha :)
00:18:53 [eikeonborg]
spam?
00:20:29 [eikeonborg]
spam?
00:21:29 [AaronSw]
spam?
00:21:29 [eikeonborg]
spam, spam, eggs, and spam!
00:21:38 [AaronSw]
evil
00:21:43 [eikeonborg]
It is working when I send to myself...
00:21:49 [eikeonborg]
Ah... did you get the response.
00:22:01 [AaronSw]
i only got it when i asked
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00:22:07 [eikeonborg]
Its working then!
00:22:15 [AaronSw]
whee!
00:22:24 [sbp]
n3s?
00:22:31 [AaronSw]
good job
00:22:35 [eikeonborg]
I feel half human half machine ;)
00:22:37 [AaronSw]
bye bye bot
00:22:48 [eikeonborg]
Only have the one rule ;)
00:22:51 [AaronSw]
:-)
00:22:52 [eikeonborg]
Good try.
00:23:13 [eikeonborg]
I am pysched!
00:24:54 [eikeonborg]
* eikeonborg replacement day :-)
00:25:17 [eikeonborg]
s/eikeonborg/eikeon/
00:25:25 [eikeonborg]
eikeon->eikeonborg
00:43:04 [AaronSw]
:-)
00:49:52 [AaronSw]
sbp, sent an rdf schema your emailly way
01:02:05 [AaronSw]
on patents:
01:02:06 [AaronSw]
Kramer: What are you guys talking about?
01:02:06 [AaronSw]
Seinfeld: They're re-opening the Rainbow Room at Rockefeller Center.
01:02:06 [AaronSw]
Kramer: What? That was MY idea!
01:02:06 [AaronSw]
Seinfeld: Which part of the idea was yours? The million dollars you don't
01:02:06 [AaronSw]
HAVE, or the building you don't OWN?
01:18:20 [sbp]
Pff, Seinfeld. I had that idea ages ago
01:18:52 [sbp]
* sbp checks his emaily way and finds an emaily email
01:20:25 [AaronSw]
lol @ Salon's Webby Speech
01:20:26 [AaronSw]
Salon.com: "We know deep throat is..."
01:21:39 [sbp]
yeah, read that. it's quite interesting
01:22:05 [sbp]
actually, I also read the site of that class that has been investiagting the thing for years
01:24:55 [AaronSw]
read what now?
01:25:08 [sbp]
ah: http://www.comm.uiuc.edu/spike/deepthroat/
01:25:33 [AaronSw]
ah, they put the article up finally
01:25:38 [AaronSw]
i was quoting their webby speech, actually
01:26:15 [sbp]
ah
01:26:33 [AaronSw]
oh, you bought the book?
01:26:44 [sbp]
pardon?
01:27:12 [AaronSw]
Salon.com has a new book, "Unmasking Deep Throat"
01:27:24 [sbp]
I read the salon.com article (about the book), and the class report in Spike
01:29:01 [sbp]
it's interesting that Woodward says he'll tell people who it was when he (Woodward) dies
01:30:13 [sbp]
I don't know why he doesn't just say who it is now. "Journalistic ethics" he says, but it seems a bit weird that he's prepared to blab about it in his obituary or whatever
01:31:04 [AaronSw]
yeah, it's apparently a very complicated thing in his will
01:31:16 [AaronSw]
it has to be 25 years after he dies, unless deep throat dies first
01:31:43 [sbp]
aha
01:45:42 [AaronSw]
wow, google archived it
01:54:31 [anex_]
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01:54:36 [AaronSw]
.google plex
01:54:41 [AaronSw]
.google google plex
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01:55:06 [AaronSw]
.google google plex
01:55:18 [AaronSw]
.google google plex
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01:58:28 [AaronSw]
.google google plex
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02:00:28 [AaronSw]
.google google plex
02:00:29 [anex_]
google plex: http://www.google.com/plex/
02:00:44 [eikeonborg]
* eikeonborg is leaving to go modify himself some more.
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02:02:22 [sbp]
javascript:var%20d=new%20Date();d.setTime(d.getTime());month=(d.getMonth()+1);if(%20month<10){month=%220%22+month};void(location=('http://blogspace.com/swhack/chatlogs/'+(d.getFullYear())+%22-%22+month+%22-%22+d.getDate()+%22.txt%22))
02:02:54 [AaronSw]
is this a script to do the equivalent of http://blogspace.com/swhack/chatlogs/latest ?
02:02:57 [sbp]
might want to escape that "<" too: %3C
02:03:02 [sbp]
yep
02:03:08 [sbp]
heh. oh well
02:06:02 [AaronSw]
neat!
02:06:02 [AaronSw]
useful for the notabug logs
02:06:24 [sbp]
revised: javascript:var%20d=new%20Date();d.setTime(d.getTime());month=(d.getMonth()+1);if(%20month%3C10){month='0'+month};void(location=('http://blogspace.com/swhack/chatlogs/'+(d.getFullYear())+'-'+month+'-'+d.getDate()+'.txt'))
02:07:29 [anex]
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02:07:37 [sbp]
annex!
02:08:00 [AaronSw]
nothing to worry about, m'dear
02:08:07 [AaronSw]
the new improved anex with Google is comign!
02:08:11 [sbp]
ooh
02:08:15 [anex]
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02:08:23 [sbp]
m'dear?! now that's something to worry about :-)
02:08:28 [sbp]
.google sbp
02:08:30 [anex]
sbp: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dsbp%26hl%3Den%26lr%3D%26sa%3DI&q=stocks:SBP+
02:08:38 [sbp]
Mmmkay
02:09:05 [AaronSw]
you have a problem with being dear to me?
02:09:25 [AaronSw]
hahah, santander bancorp holdings wins again
02:09:28 [AaronSw]
.google aaron
02:09:30 [anex]
aaron: http://www.aaronsw.com/
02:09:33 [sbp]
oh, sorry, I thought you said "deer"
02:09:38 [AaronSw]
heh
02:09:38 [sbp]
yeah, damn thing
02:09:45 [anex]
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02:09:48 [sbp]
it's the bane of my Googly homepage presence
02:09:52 [anex]
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02:10:02 [sbp]
now that the State Bank of Pakistan is no longer a problem
02:11:01 [AaronSw]
.google infomesh
02:11:03 [anex]
infomesh: http://infomesh.net/
02:11:04 [AaronSw]
.google infomesh sbp
02:11:13 [sbp]
aw
02:11:14 [anex]
infomesh sbp: http://infomesh.net/sbp/
02:11:19 [sbp]
oh, just slow
02:11:32 [AaronSw]
I wonder why it's so slow
02:11:53 [sbp]
you probably archive all of the search results
02:12:01 [sbp]
spider the entire sites...
02:12:16 [sbp]
not such a bad idea, actually :-)
02:12:20 [AaronSw]
heh
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02:12:57 [AaronSw]
.google infomesh
02:12:59 [AaronSw]
.google infomesh
02:13:00 [AaronSw]
.google infomesh sbp
02:13:02 [anex]
infomesh: http://infomesh.net/
02:13:04 [anex]
infomesh: http://infomesh.net/
02:13:06 [anex]
infomesh sbp: http://infomesh.net/sbp/
02:13:09 [sbp]
.google quicker
02:13:09 [AaronSw]
.google infomesh sbp
02:13:10 [anex]
quicker: http://www.pageresource.com/zine/quicker.htm
02:13:11 [anex]
infomesh sbp: http://infomesh.net/sbp/
02:13:18 [AaronSw]
that's a little better, i guess
02:13:22 [sbp]
yeah
02:13:34 [AaronSw]
oh wait. i didn't change anything. heh
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02:13:50 [AaronSw]
.google infomesh sbp
02:13:51 [sbp]
heh, it's the placebo effect
02:13:51 [AaronSw]
.google infomesh sbp
02:13:53 [AaronSw]
.google infomesh
02:13:54 [anex]
infomesh sbp: http://infomesh.net/sbp/
02:13:56 [anex]
infomesh sbp: http://infomesh.net/sbp/
02:13:57 [sbp]
.google placebo
02:13:58 [anex]
infomesh: http://infomesh.net/
02:14:00 [anex]
placebo: http://www.thebsh.com/
02:14:03 [AaronSw]
.google infomesh
02:14:03 [anex]
infomesh: http://infomesh.net/
02:14:08 [AaronSw]
.google the bends
02:14:09 [anex]
the bends: http://www.pbs.org/ktca/newtons/11/bends.html
02:14:19 [sbp]
.google Sir Issac Newton
02:14:21 [anex]
Sir Issac Newton: http://www-gap.dcs.st-and.ac.uk/~history/Mathematicians/Newton.html
02:14:29 [sbp]
.google for all sorts of Googly stuff
02:14:30 [anex]
for all sorts of Googly stuff: http://www.geocities.com/dragonsprite587/Fanfic.html
02:14:47 [AaronSw]
whoa!
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02:15:23 [sbp]
what up?
02:15:36 [AaronSw]
twas an interesting result
02:16:10 [anex]
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02:16:15 [sbp]
perhaps "Googley" is the proper spelling
02:16:20 [sbp]
flood?
02:16:33 [AaronSw]
guess i should put back in the anti-flood code. sigh
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02:17:27 [sbp]
heh
02:17:59 [sbp]
if that's the demonstration of the new anti-flood code, I have to say that I'm a little underwhelmed by it
02:18:01 [anex]
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02:18:09 [AaronSw]
heh
02:18:52 [AaronSw]
'twas the 15 senses of stuff that did it in
02:19:25 [sbp]
ah, you're wordnetting it behind the curtain?
02:19:41 [AaronSw]
yep
02:20:01 [AaronSw]
the nice thing about the new API is that if you just 'return' the response it'll support /msgs too
02:20:12 [sbp]
neat
02:20:18 [AaronSw]
well, one nice thing :)
02:20:33 [sbp]
indumbledybump
02:21:15 [AaronSw]
i think anex hits an 80/20 point
02:21:28 [AaronSw]
80 percent of the things people ask it, 20 percent of the code size :)
02:21:59 [AaronSw]
<A> all things are like visions beyond the reach of the human mind
02:21:59 [AaronSw]
<B> You and Marge Simpson need to get drunk and have a long existential chat.
02:22:00 [sbp]
yeah. how big are anex/xena, then?
02:22:16 [sbp]
heh, um... <G>
02:22:30 [AaronSw]
from #infoanarchy, of course
02:22:39 [AaronSw]
anex is 106 lines... xena is at least 106 files :)
02:22:46 [sbp]
ah, it suddenly makes sense
02:22:54 [sbp]
sounds about right
02:23:05 [sbp]
but that makes it more like 80/1
02:23:41 [anex]
I lost weight!
02:23:45 [sbp]
lol
02:24:07 [sbp]
wow, you got all that AI in in just 106 lines?
02:24:10 [AaronSw]
:-)
02:24:24 [AaronSw]
we need a catchy name for our irc lib
02:24:33 [anex]
That's the magic of $CATCHYNAME!
02:24:41 [sbp]
irclib
02:24:47 [sbp]
cliber
02:24:58 [sbp]
climber
02:25:02 [AaronSw]
cribil
02:25:03 [sbp]
limber
02:25:13 [AaronSw]
bilcri
02:25:16 [sbp]
pentyunderskefflewad
02:25:21 [sbp]
Hmm... too long
02:25:36 [anex]
I lost 105 files on the pentyunderskefflewad diet... yeah, too long.
02:26:07 [sbp]
"Aaron Swartz's Monstorama IRC Library, Now With Added Maple Syrup"
02:26:12 [AaronSw]
I guess I should put password proection on the puppeteer functions.
02:26:19 [AaronSw]
er, nick protection at least
02:26:51 [sbp]
* sbp tries to guess the mechanism, briefly
02:27:08 [anex]
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02:27:16 [sbp]
heh. oh well
02:27:17 [AaronSw]
oops, guess that function needs some work
02:27:55 [sbp]
ah, was I rightomundo?
02:28:13 [AaronSw]
no, i think that was me
02:28:19 [sbp]
tsk
02:28:33 [AaronSw]
well, it was eik's bug :)
02:28:49 [sbp]
I like Eik
02:29:11 [sbp]
now, why did you mention n3s earlier?
02:29:27 [AaronSw]
to increase its googlejuice
02:30:00 [anex]
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02:30:04 [AaronSw]
it wasn't first on the obcvious query
02:30:06 [AaronSw]
.google n3s
02:30:08 [anex]
n3s: http://www.simulog.fr/is/2n3s1.htm
02:30:11 [sbp]
by giving it a good old swhacking over? thanks :-)
02:30:16 [sbp]
heh!
02:30:23 [AaronSw]
gotta counter balance http://infomesh.net/2002/n3s/
02:30:29 [AaronSw]
oops, guess that bug is still there...
02:30:35 [AaronSw]
errf, a new bug this time. my fault
02:30:49 [AaronSw]
no wait, still eik's fault
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02:31:18 [sbp]
for the logs: [anex:#swhack ACTIONdodges] sbp's guesses
02:31:36 [AaronSw]
huh?
02:31:47 [sbp]
try putting a space in there
02:31:59 [anex]
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02:32:06 [AaronSw]
i did... guess i didn't cvs up fast enough
02:32:09 [anex]
* anex dodges sbp's guesses
02:32:13 [AaronSw]
there we go
02:32:16 [sbp]
wonderblump
02:33:13 [sbp]
Hmm... I think I'm going to make a foray for food
02:33:22 [AaronSw]
heh: "How much of this was voluntary and how much due to reflex nerve action is speculation. Most nations with science sophisticated enough to determine this question have long since abandoned decapitation as a legal tool."
02:35:49 [AaronSw]
ok, it's now passworded so only the trusted three may use it
02:36:50 [sbp]
trusted three: sbp, eik, and thee?
02:36:55 [AaronSw]
indeed
02:37:23 [anex]
This is a test of the emergency notice system. Were this a real emergency I would have run out of the room screaming long ago.
02:37:24 [sbp]
many thanks served up on a platter with parsely to garnish
02:37:28 [sbp]
heh
02:38:24 [AaronSw]
did you see that notice in other channels?
02:38:34 [sbp]
nope
02:42:05 [AaronSw]
* AaronSw looks at integrating his other sundry bots
02:46:19 [sbp]
capital idea Mr. Swartz! top-o
02:47:43 [sbp]
.google servitudal
02:47:50 [anex]
servitudal: http://www.acts.co.za/sec_titles/30__Anci.htm
02:48:04 [sbp]
damn
02:48:22 [sbp]
Aaron: .googlecount, per chance?
02:48:49 [AaronSw]
can you mail me the code to u googlecount?
02:48:57 [AaronSw]
ah, tx
02:49:47 [sbp]
:-)
02:53:19 [AaronSw]
any more feature reqs while i'm at it?
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02:56:05 [sbp]
make it able to coin words, perhaps?
02:56:05 [AaronSw]
.googlecount servitudal
02:56:06 [anex_]
servitudal: 27
02:56:09 [sbp]
whoo!
02:56:24 [AaronSw]
.relay 12.249.96.16
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02:56:32 [sbp]
relay?
02:56:35 [AaronSw]
.relay 12.249.96.16
02:56:36 [anex_]
added 12.249.96.16 to relay-ctrl, you have 900000 seconds.
02:57:05 [AaronSw]
it decides who gets to relay thru my smtp server
02:57:12 [sbp]
ooh
02:58:36 [sbp]
I think it should have an Ash mode, where everything is capitalized and mispelt
02:58:41 [AaronSw]
heh
02:59:07 [AaronSw]
.ashize i love you
02:59:17 [anex]
I LUVVE JOO!!!!(!(!&*@&*@
02:59:17 [sbp]
I LUV YOUE!?!
02:59:20 [sbp]
heh, heh
02:59:38 [thelsdj]
you know the riaa is evil when they make my 54 year old mother cry when she hears they forced audiogalaxy to shut down
03:00:07 [thelsdj]
(effectivly shut down i should say)
03:00:08 [AaronSw]
awww
03:00:18 [thelsdj]
of course my mothers always moody but jeeez!
03:00:19 [sbp]
\topic RIAA: Making people's 54 year old mothers cry since 19xx
03:00:21 [AaronSw]
yeah, even lisa rein's songs are blocked
03:01:07 [thelsdj]
she uses osx and my sister uses linux so there is really no foolproof system for them to get music anymore
03:01:41 [thelsdj]
my sister could figure out some of the other ones but my mother would never be able to understand things like kazaa, ag was just so easy
03:03:01 [thelsdj]
i always get scared when i see a referer for a google search for "adam wendt" like the FBI is looking for me or something
03:03:50 [thelsdj]
over half my google referers today are for 'audiogalaxy closed' and things like that
03:04:04 [sbp]
[off] You mean "Adam Wendt" the cyber porn hippie freak sex Britney Spears terrorist pron magnate?
03:04:32 [thelsdj]
probably
03:04:48 [sbp]
[off] [off]! unless you *really* want that in the logs :-)
03:05:28 [thelsdj]
[off] lol i think i've sent that kind of thing in a few emails, there is SOOOO much dirt on me on the internet already
03:05:38 [sbp]
[off] heh, heh
03:05:48 [sbp]
[off] .google dirt on Adam Wendt
03:06:08 [AaronSw]
NEWS UPDATE: RIAA, MPAA, BDPG, Disney Merge To Create RIMPBDisneyAAAAPG
03:06:14 [remoford]
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03:06:43 [thelsdj]
[off] amazingly 'dirt on adam wendt' returns nothing about me in the top 10 results
03:07:06 [jeremiah]
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03:07:11 [jeremiah]
morning
03:07:15 [AaronSw]
evening
03:07:18 [thelsdj]
[off] so maybe i am safe
03:07:19 [sbp]
yo remoford, Jeremiah
03:07:29 [sbp]
[off] maybe you are, chief... maybe you are...
03:07:29 [remoford]
hi sbp
03:07:41 [jeremiah]
sbp: why are you awake at 5 am local time?
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03:08:03 [AaronSw]
.time bst
03:08:03 [anex_]
Thu, 20 Jun 2002 05:08:06 BST
03:08:03 [anex]
Thu, 20 Jun 2002 05:08:38 BST
03:08:07 [sbp]
heh
03:08:19 [wmf]
the channel's overrun with bots!
03:08:22 [sbp]
* sbp is either drunk or...
03:08:25 [jeremiah]
did you just wake up or have you not yet gone to sleep?
03:08:31 [sbp]
not gone to sleep yet
03:08:38 [sbp]
I've had a busy day
03:08:44 [jeremiah]
oh
03:08:53 [jeremiah]
I just saw The Bourne Identity
03:08:55 [anex_]
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03:08:58 [jeremiah]
good movie
03:09:00 [sbp]
although I'm usually up at around this time
03:09:05 [sbp]
.google "The Bourne Identity"
03:09:07 [anex]
"The Bourne Identity": http://www.apple.com/trailers/universal/the_bourne_identity/
03:09:12 [wmf]
that looks good
03:09:29 [jeremiah]
it has some awesome fight scenes
03:09:34 [jeremiah]
and an interesting plot
03:10:14 [wmf]
so who here wants a cell phone in their tooth?
03:10:27 [sbp]
Aaron: BTW, anex sounds like an anal gel to me. you might want to think about that
03:10:36 [AaronSw]
heh
03:10:42 [wmf]
thank you for sharing
03:10:43 [AaronSw]
cell phone in their tooth?
03:10:45 [jeremiah]
sbp: how often do you shop for anal gel :)
03:10:56 [wmf]
oh yeah, AaronSw doesn't read /,
03:11:18 [sbp]
never. but Morbus often talks about it, and... :-)
03:11:41 [sbp]
.google slashcomma
03:11:42 [anex]
slashcomma: http://stewarts.slashcomma.com/
03:11:51 [jeremiah]
oh SHIT
03:11:54 [sbp]
it's so great having .google capabilities back again
03:11:57 [jeremiah]
apple dropped 3 points today
03:12:02 [thelsdj]
[off] my writing was amazingly bad 4 years ago: http://groups.google.com/groups?q=%22adam+wendt%22&start=10&hl=en&lr=&safe=off&scoring=d&selm=36E231DC.A1A34510%40hotmail.com&rnum=19 (not that its any better now)
03:12:24 [thelsdj]
[off] thats my first usenet post i can find
03:13:13 [sbp]
J: don't worry, they'll probably be bought out by MS or something tomorrow
03:13:15 [sbp]
[off] heh
03:13:36 [jeremiah]
at least I'm still somewhat in the black
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03:14:37 [jeremiah]
wait... nope I'm not in the black
03:14:49 [thelsdj]
[off] and i was spouting stuff i wasn't sure about: http://groups.google.com/groups?q=%22adam+wendt%22&start=10&hl=en&lr=&safe=off&scoring=d&selm=slrn7e5mua.78b.bem%40thorin.cmc.net&rnum=18
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03:15:49 [jeremiah]
thelsdj: that last one isn't too far off
03:15:54 [wmf]
http://www.theregus.com/content/53/25289.html
03:16:15 [thelsdj]
[off] i asked stupid questions: http://groups.google.com/groups?q=%22adam+wendt%22&start=10&hl=en&lr=&safe=off&scoring=d&selm=36EB67C1.8811286E%40goo.dynip.com&rnum=16 (actually to this day i still think that should be a feature)
03:16:38 [AaronSw]
Sun Linux?
03:16:45 [wmf]
read more
03:16:53 [AaronSw]
heh: http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/31/10719.html
03:17:13 [wmf]
El Reg bashes InfoWorld's hyperlinks
03:17:15 [AaronSw]
ah, they complain about the mornonic hyperlingks
03:17:17 [AaronSw]
jinx
03:17:39 [AaronSw]
i like how they unlinked infoworld as punishment
03:17:39 [jeremiah]
oh wait you're the comment above not the well informed one talking about micro-kernels
03:18:04 [AaronSw]
heh! "Fancy an Editors' Award for your very dull product? Simply rush your free sample to us (no WAP phones, please) and a highly sought after Register Golden Vulture accolade can be yours for a mere £1000."
03:18:19 [AaronSw]
they finger moles?!
03:18:24 [AaronSw]
* AaronSw stops reporting to the reg
03:18:37 [wmf]
heh
03:20:42 [jeremiah]
I stopped in and read some of Wolfram's book today at barnes and noble
03:20:45 [jeremiah]
I wasn't very impressed
03:22:07 [thelsdj]
thats like kurzweil's links, half of his don't even link to the same context as what he's writing about
03:22:27 [AaronSw]
thelsdj, that's the power of AI!
03:22:31 [thelsdj]
lol
03:22:32 [wmf]
damn, look at k5
03:22:38 [thelsdj]
giving you things in the incorrect context?
03:22:46 [wmf]
I wonder if I could make $70K in a week
03:23:02 [thelsdj]
hahah, i've blogged the k5 thing twice
03:23:02 [jeremiah]
wmf: I've got some emails about that I could forward you...
03:23:04 [AaronSw]
you didn't see that on boingboing?
03:23:12 [thelsdj]
already 'donated' $120
03:23:35 [AaronSw]
oh, they have a counter
03:24:04 [AaronSw]
pro: less annoying than NPR pledge drives
03:24:14 [sbp]
what chance in there of an ESPRA server coming back online?
03:24:15 [jeremiah]
what're we talking about here?
03:24:19 [sbp]
s/in/is/
03:24:35 [AaronSw]
sbp, very good
03:24:40 [wmf]
I think Raph's the only one who actually read that SEDA paper
03:25:14 [AaronSw]
groan, K5 swimsuit edition
03:25:49 [wmf]
uh oh, agl is taking me to task
03:25:52 [AaronSw]
i think the best part about k5 is the logo
03:26:00 [sbp]
Gotta run
03:26:14 [jeremiah]
AaronSw: I never realized the logo until you mentioned it
03:26:52 [AaronSw]
heh, htp has gotten shorter for sure
03:27:04 [jeremiah]
.google SEDA
03:27:05 [xena]
SEDA: http://www.seda.demon.co.uk/
03:27:16 [wmf]
.google Matt Welsh SEDA
03:27:17 [xena]
Matt Welsh SEDA: http://www.cs.berkeley.edu/~mdw/
03:28:06 [jeremiah]
ok
03:29:09 [AaronSw]
heh: http://web.archive.org/web/20020127175549/slashdot.org/robots.txt
03:29:28 [jeremiah]
heh
03:29:54 [wmf]
hey, I didn't know slashdot was hosted at UserLand :-)
03:30:03 [AaronSw]
ba-dump-ching
03:30:16 [AaronSw]
you'd think /. could handle being /.ed
03:30:22 [wmf]
thank you, I'm here all week
03:30:57 [wmf]
swapswap
03:31:25 [AaronSw]
atadatem
03:33:15 [wmf]
Swaporage
03:36:43 [wmf]
whoa, 6751 hits yesterday
03:38:42 [wmf]
benefit #671 of working for a BigCo: when your paycheck gets delivered to somewhere that only marginally approximates where you work
03:39:41 [wmf]
anyway, time for bed
03:39:46 [AaronSw]
Don't tell me you need 300 more comps to narrow
03:39:52 [AaronSw]
the heisenlocation of your paycheck
03:39:58 [AaronSw]
s/comps/computers/
03:40:08 [AaronSw]
man, you're off to sleep early
03:40:13 [wmf]
beer
03:40:20 [AaronSw]
ah
03:40:47 [wmf]
I redesigned the experiment so that it's less realistic and we may get by with 20 machines
03:45:29 [jeremiah]
anyone know of any rdf-based systems to handle filesystems?
03:45:37 [jeremiah]
err, wait
03:45:48 [jeremiah]
I mean, like an actual filesystem that uses RDF for all it's stuff?
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03:46:10 [jeremiah]
I'm thinking of taking that project for a filesystem I wanted to work on a while ago and merging it with the goals that Plesh has
03:46:23 [jeremiah]
or making it run on top of the semplesh
03:51:29 [jeremiah]
http://humor.student.utwente.nl/index.php?n=6 < oh dear
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farewell, walloper. you have served us well
04:03:23 [Ash]
Ash has changed the topic to: walloper you suck
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ehehehe
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09:50:35 [lilo]
[GlobalNotice] Hi all. If you haven't had a chance, please take a look at http://somegeek.org/status.html (updated June 19). The site may be overloaded at first but please give it a try. Thanks.
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12:11:43 [pixel]
you there morb?
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hi sean
12:40:55 [SethR]
how's your api comming?
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* SethR waves to deltab
13:14:56 [deltab]
* deltab notices, waves back
13:21:45 [SethR]
deltab, how do you stop the server (besides of course ctrl+alt+delete) ?
13:21:55 [deltab]
what server?
13:22:23 [SethR]
the server you sketched for me http://robustai.net/sailor/
13:22:51 [deltab]
ctrl-c
13:24:11 [SethR]
nope, ctrl-c dont stop it
13:24:31 [deltab]
what OS?
13:24:42 [SethR]
windows dos box
13:25:01 [deltab]
close the window
13:25:14 [SethR]
does ctrl-c stop it on unix ?
13:25:25 [deltab]
yes, and should in windows too
13:25:36 [deltab]
hmm, try ctrl-break
13:28:00 [SethR]
ctrl-break works
13:28:57 [SethR]
you know of a unix internet domain where i can test the server at ?
13:29:15 [deltab]
a what?
13:29:59 [SethR]
i havent tested it running in a domain, just as localhost
13:31:09 [SethR]
i want to go http://somedomain:729/somewhere/introApi.html and get the server
13:32:15 [SethR]
all ive tested so far is http://localhost:729/introApi.html
13:33:34 [deltab]
yours is 12-230-243-179.client.attbi.com
13:34:07 [SethR]
hmmm .. let me try
13:36:42 [SethR]
socket.error: (10049, "Can't assign requested address")
13:37:06 [deltab]
give the IP address instead
13:37:33 [SethR]
you mean 12.230.243.179
13:37:39 [deltab]
yes
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13:38:14 [SethR]
same thing
13:38:27 [deltab]
or 0, which will bind to all addresses on your machine
13:40:05 [SethR]
same error with 12.230.243.0 ... i got a router between me and the cabel modem ... do you think that is the prob?
13:42:15 [AaronSw]
six degrees seems less helpful that Apple Mail's incremental search
13:43:19 [SethR]
aaron, can you help with running a server behind a router + att cabel ?
13:43:41 [AaronSw]
i think att blocks port 80
13:43:58 [deltab]
ah, a router with nat?
13:44:00 [SethR]
but i am using port 729
13:44:41 [SethR]
router is an smc ... what is a nat?
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13:47:08 [deltab]
NAT is network address translation
13:47:48 [SethR]
i got the router admin up where do i look to answer your question?
13:49:16 [deltab]
anything about addresses?
13:49:37 [SethR]
title of the page says:
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Multi-Functional Broadband NAT Router(R1,86)
13:50:01 [SethR]
Access Control
13:50:12 [SethR]
Enable is not checked
13:51:32 [SethR]
im gonna try enable, allow, ports 729
13:53:28 [deltab]
by the way, that port is registered: netviewdm1 729/tcp IBM NetView DM/6000 Server/Client
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apparently i disabeled my irc
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14:03:44 [SethRuss]
i guess i got to call for help on the SMC router, dont's know how to figure this out
14:04:31 [SethRuss]
first im not sure what the ip address of my computer is, second i dont know how to get any port through the router
14:06:17 [Ash-w]
How do you not know what the IP address of your computer is?
14:06:34 [SethRuss]
im stupid ?
14:06:58 [Ash-w]
Like that's not obvious already. Usually you can type in a command to find out what your current IP is.
14:07:03 [Ash-w]
Win2k: ipconfig /all
14:07:09 [Ash-w]
Linux: /sbin/ifconfig
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etc
14:07:41 [SethRuss]
fine, so what's the command for win32
14:07:52 [Ash-w]
Umm.
14:07:58 [Ash-w]
ipconfig /all should work if you're on NT or win2k.
14:08:05 [Ash-w]
winipcfg if you're on win98 or something.
14:08:18 [Ash-w]
It's really not hard.
14:10:23 [SethRuss]
ok, so far so good .. got a long list of stuff ... what am i looking for ?
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14:11:29 [SethRuss]
should i just use my Host Name which is
14:11:45 [Ash-w]
You wanted the IP address, didn't you?
14:11:50 [Ash-w]
It should be listed in there.
14:12:53 [SethRuss]
i got Ethernet adapter IP address = 192.168.123.101
14:12:56 [SethRuss]
is that it?
14:13:06 [Ash-w]
Yes.
14:15:37 [SethRuss]
Kewl, thanks Ash it works .. now can you see it?
14:15:39 [SethRuss]
http://192.168.123.101:729/introApi.html
14:15:43 [deltab]
that will work on your side of the router only
14:15:52 [Ash-w]
192.168.0.0 is a private subnet.
14:16:17 [SethRuss]
so how do it get it out to the world?
14:16:19 [Ash-w]
If you want to know your external IP address, go to www.whatismyipaddress.com and it should tell you what your IP address is on the outside world
14:16:53 [deltab]
when you make connections out, the NAT function of the router translates internal addresses to your external address
14:17:24 [deltab]
and keeps track of which machines on your network made which connections
14:17:31 [SethRuss]
ok but that is the ip address that the server will not bind to :(
14:17:46 [Ash-w]
SethRuss: You need more help than we can provide.
14:18:09 [deltab]
SethRuss: can you bind to 192.168.123.101?
14:18:29 [Ash-w]
SethRuss: the SMC box translates the outside address to the inside address if you've set that up.
14:18:37 [SethRuss]
yep i can bind to 192.168.123.101 :)
14:19:10 [Ash-w]
So theoretically you should be able to set up a NAT rule on the SMC box to translate all incoming traffic for 12.230.243.179 to 192.168.123.101
14:19:33 [deltab]
not all, just on the chosen port
14:19:56 [SethRuss]
hmmmm .. where be the NAT rules ?
14:20:19 [Ash-w]
deltab: Indeed.
14:20:25 [deltab]
well, it may be smart enough to handle both
14:20:41 [Ash-w]
SethRuss: Usually settings on the SMC box. Check your documentation, look for nat or Network Address Translation
14:20:43 [Ash-w]
anyway bbiaf
14:21:13 [deltab]
SethRuss: do you have a model number for the SMC?
14:22:05 [SethRuss]
SMC7004BR
14:22:43 [deltab]
yay, the user guide is on the Web
14:24:56 [SethRuss]
its got a page that looks like Virtual Server .. got to reboot the router to make it effect
14:24:58 [deltab]
see pages 20 onwards
14:32:34 [sbp]
* sbp waves
14:38:37 [AaronSw]
hey sbp
14:42:40 [AaronSw]
So the policy is borne of "either cluelessness or evil -- and I'd like to think that the Car Talk and tote bag people aren't evil."
14:42:44 [AaronSw]
- Cory Doctorow
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AaronSw has changed the topic to: Cory: "I'd like to think that the Car Talk and tote bag people aren't evil."
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* AaronSw parodies NPR on his weblog
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--
14:53:04 [AaronSw]
<Loki> btw y'all if we're going to be a world-class irc team we need to communicate.
14:53:04 [AaronSw]
<Ash-w> Yeah.
14:53:04 [AaronSw]
<Loki> We have the talent, and the dedication.
14:53:04 [AaronSw]
<Ash-w> COMMUNICATE
14:53:04 [AaronSw]
<Loki> We could make it to the majors, man.
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--
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hehe
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* SethRuss waves at sbp
16:43:45 [sbp]
yo
16:44:09 [AaronSw]
yo sbpster
16:44:18 [sbp]
sup ma' Swartzster?
16:44:53 [sbp]
[off] wot iz yo been up ta m th doin, widjya skip for to me bro?
16:45:32 [sbp]
[off] [whistle] coherance? here boy!
16:49:59 [SethRuss]
sbp, how's you api comming?
16:50:38 [sbp]
haven't worked on it for a while, but it's been "done" for ages now
16:50:41 [sbp]
just a case of releasing it
16:50:57 [SethRuss]
can i have a copy?
16:51:04 [sbp]
yep
16:51:08 [sbp]
=> PMSG
17:00:33 [sbp]
Gotta run
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*BAMPH!*
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* redmonk appears
17:07:13 [AaronSw]
redmonk!
17:08:30 [redmonk]
aaronsw!
17:09:46 [AaronSw]
how's the jobsearching going (<lilo> check out #jobs)
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17:12:27 [redmonk]
not bad. had an interview on tuesday
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which went on
17:13:15 [redmonk]
er, ok
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18:02:47 [sbp]
s'happening people?
18:06:41 [quasi]
people are probably busy upgrading their servers ;)
18:09:15 [AaronSw]
upg?
18:14:37 [pixel]
I think everyone dissappeared.
18:15:37 [pixel]
anyone have any insight on how perl handles the .= operator and memory?
18:17:50 [quasi]
pixel: perldoc perlguts might givr you hints
18:18:23 [pixel]
hadn't gotten that far down the docs yet =)
18:18:26 [pixel]
thanks,
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18:19:48 [pixel]
I think he's alseep.
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18:36:02 [Morbus]
i am not asleep.
18:36:05 [Morbus]
i was in a meeting.
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now, i sleep.
18:36:59 [pixel]
hehe
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Gotta run
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hi ho!
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[[[
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[6:13] * ronwalf stares at Wilbur
21:15:10 [Morbus]
[6:13] * Morbus peers at ronwalf
21:15:10 [Morbus]
[6:15] <ronwalf> Wilbur is probably more intruiging
21:15:10 [Morbus]
[6:15] <Morbus> is he a pig?
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[6:15] * Morbus looks for a semantic Web.
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]]]
21:20:46 [Morbus]
AaronSw, you round?
21:20:46 [Morbus]
i miss you.
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21:24:47 [Morbus]
GabeW: HOW DO YOU like chatzilla?
21:24:56 [GabeW]
Love it
21:25:03 [GabeW]
its great - some little bugs
21:25:06 [GabeW]
but nothing showstopping
21:25:45 [Morbus]
what's special about it?
21:25:45 [Morbus]
or just a straightforward irc?
21:26:05 [GabeW]
its part of mozilla - written with the XUL stuff in mozilla - ie in javascript
21:26:11 [GabeW]
but you'd never know it using it
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whoo. expat 1.95.3 compiles cleanly on os x
21:30:04 [GabeW]
whoo whoo - expat is now on cygwin
21:30:11 [GabeW]
on the installer to be specific
21:30:18 [sbp]
whoo!
21:30:22 [Morbus]
there's an expat for win32 too :)
21:30:26 [GabeW]
ah well
21:31:09 [sbp]
things taste better in CygWin
21:31:25 [Morbus]
argh.
21:31:41 [GabeW]
i'm waiting for cygwin to become its own os
21:31:47 [sbp]
heh
21:32:14 [GabeW]
i can run X with windowmaker full screen and I can almost imagine it
21:33:04 [Morbus]
oh.
21:33:09 [Morbus]
have to rebuild XML::Parser.
21:33:46 [Morbus]
woo, woo, no more seg falt
21:33:52 [Morbus]
now, i get to try the same thing on windows.
21:33:52 [Morbus]
hah, that will be fun.
21:33:52 [Morbus]
sigh.
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i think i have arthritis in my legs.
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* Morbus adds another dumb easter egg to Ampheta.
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ooh
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