00:00:51 heh 00:00:56 they are such a cute couple 00:01:17 GabeW has quit ("ChatZilla 0.8.7 [Mozilla rv:1.0.0/20020530]") 00:01:59 in addition to alt *attributes*, I think Google Images should also look at title and longdesc attributes 00:03:44 http://htmlhelp.com/reference/html40/special/img.html 00:04:48 this is why i love deltab 00:05:02 :-) 00:05:02 that's in response to http://google.blogspace.com/archives/000350 btw 00:05:38 :-) 00:05:46 GabeW (~chatzilla@adsl-216-101-18-99.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net) has joined #swhack 00:06:24 oh, I've just realised what "display images on that page" means 00:06:39 oh? 00:07:12 I thought it meant "put the images on that page to display them", and I was wondering what page 00:07:30 but now I realise it means "display images from that page" 00:08:01 * AaronSw fixes 00:08:07 That was a really poorly written piece. 00:09:11 those are great ideas 00:10:00 oierw` has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 00:10:12 I'd thought of using alt, but not the other two ideas 00:11:06 Ah, good! I couldn't tell if I was just stupid... 00:11:22 They seem so obvious, but Google Images seems to totally be focused on filenames to the exclusion of all else. 00:12:13 I can't figure out why it thinks these results are relevant 00:14:28 I was confused by the third image on the search for Scripting News - Google took me to Guido van Rossum's home page 00:14:56 (and the thumbnail was missing) 00:16:19 Hm. Did I screw that up? 00:17:08 heh. Ev is funny 00:18:23 pointing to ascii babes? 00:19:01 ^for 00:19:13 yeah 00:21:42 AaronSw: no, Google Images did 00:25:53 oierw` (~mathew@pcp994425pcs.goosck01.sc.comcast.net) has joined #swhack 00:27:28 @ http://www.typorganism.com/ 00:27:41 A: http://www.typorganism.com/ from AaronSw 00:29:01 * wmf feeds AaronSw into the ASCII-O-Matic 00:30:46 * AaronSw feeds wmf 00:31:04 I just ate, thanks 00:31:34 heh 00:33:09 Morbus (morbus@s86.terminal3.totalnetnh.net) has joined #swhack 00:33:57 "Are you compatible with Quartz Extreme?" -- bad punch line of a future Joy of Tech strip 00:35:41 you know, i really don't care. 00:38:15 my blogrolling technique is too efficient 00:38:26 * thelsdj gets down on his hands and keen and mourns the loss of audiogalaxy 00:39:01 sent: 8,956.19 MB / recv: 35,984.57 MB (my file transfer stats on ag) 00:39:16 i'm something like 1/3 gigs, i think 00:39:29 lol: http://www.geekculture.com/joyoftech/joyarchives/330.html 00:39:56 hahhaah http://www.geekculture.com/joyoftech/joyarchives/328.html 00:40:12 yeah, the ballmer one is great 00:40:44 soulseek in python: http://www.sensi.org/~ak/pyslsk/ 00:41:11 the emacs joke is so obvious 00:41:12 it 00:41:18 it's just obligatory 00:41:42 heh: http://www.geekculture.com/joyoftech/joyarchives/323.html 00:44:14 * wmf wonders whether being Stallmanized is worse than being Napsterized 00:48:08 heh, Error: element "wmf" not defined in this HTML version 00:48:15 stallmanized? 00:49:01 you have no chance to validate make your time 00:51:19 woo, it validates! haha, sucker 00:51:36 take off every ! 00:51:50 * AaronSw does the i-just-wasted-way-too-much-time-for-stupid-standards dance 00:53:55 see! 00:53:58 someone appreciates me: 00:53:59 [[[ 00:53:59 This is great!! I'll format it for WebWord in the next day 00:53:59 or so. When it is done I'll post it and forward the link 00:53:59 along to you. 00:54:00 By the way, given how much you are doing right now, 00:54:01 your turn around was amazing. 00:54:03 ]]] 00:54:05 concerning the interview. 00:54:07 i feel loved. 00:58:06 awwww 00:58:32 * Morbus nods pitifully. 01:03:35 heh. "Quite frankly, this new ad campaign is terrifying. No, it's worse than that - it's a theatre of cruelty that makes victims of Apple's loyal Macintosh user base. " 01:04:06 that's not *exactly* what I'd say, but I think they have a point 01:04:48 doesn't Apple already have the entire freelance writer/DJ market? 01:04:48 why do they put 'Mark Fraunfelder' in scare quotes? 01:05:01 good point 01:05:01 that's not his real name, silly 01:05:38 (or at least that's what El Reg is implying) 01:05:47 phew, i was worried that i'd have to tell him he was "the kind of twitchy, self-loathing bore from whom women flee" 01:06:20 don't you know? those ads are all fake 01:06:50 right, because no *real* person could possibly be that stupid/ugly/disgusting/insane/bland 01:06:50 i have a silly question, who/what is to blame/praise for apples sucess lately? i can remember a few years ago when it seemed like apple was going down the tubes, what changed? 01:06:56 OS X? 01:07:01 Steve 01:07:06 Steve! 01:07:19 is that the same ad campaign Cory Doctorow appears in? 01:07:51 heh 01:07:52 Cory Doctorow does not appear in an ad campaign. Are you thinking of his parterner in boinging, Mark Fraunfelder? 01:08:04 probably 01:08:17 "partner in boinging"? that sounds... uh... 01:08:20 so when steve came back is when it turned around? 01:08:21 heh 01:08:31 thelsdj: yeah 01:08:32 [[[ 01:08:32 [10:08] what is an "out of the box" server? 01:08:33 [10:09] * Morbus peers at EpA. 01:08:33 [10:09] you buy a computer. you turn on the computer. it works. whoO! you go back to having sex. 01:08:33 ]]] 01:09:06 ah, so that's what "thinking out of the box" means 01:09:14 heh! 01:09:32 our babies think out of the box 01:09:59 Only Cory can turn a rumor about 802.11g into a BDPG rant. http://boingboing.net/2002_06_01_archive.html#85176561 01:10:18 yeah, I thought that was a bit convoluted 01:10:44 ah, boingboing, the site with quarter-megabyte pages 01:10:53 heheh 01:10:56 (pounding fist repeatedly) 01:11:07 BDPG! BDPG! BDPG! 01:11:17 (goes back to pounding fist) 01:11:32 * Cory bangs iBook, Shoe, Audience members on table 01:12:39 and the cellphone 01:13:23 0.67% click through percentage so far with my ad on kuro5hin heh 01:18:47 hm, i'd sent rusty some cash but i already sent all of it to lilo 01:21:14 i think the only solution is going to be rusty getting a job but who knows 01:21:29 yeah, that was my first thought 01:21:30 GabeW has quit ("ChatZilla 0.8.7 [Mozilla rv:1.0.0/20020530]") 01:23:55 i'm gonna buy an ad on kuro5hin for ampheta if i can think of a good 60 character or less description 01:25:56 AmphetaDesk: Let your favorite sites come to you. 01:28:30 How to find Cory quotes: http://www.google.com/search?q="technology%20boner%20that%20could%20cut%20glass" 01:30:32 AaronSw: where'd you find that quote? 01:30:41 boingboing 01:30:46 he also said it in person 01:30:52 really? 01:30:58 is this recent? 01:30:59 where the frel have I been? 01:31:20 from June 15 01:32:09 i dont see it. 01:32:29 under the Ben Hammersly story 01:33:22 heh, heh. ok. i'm dumb, I think. 01:33:39 i see " It's a small, mad, mad, small, mad, small (wireless) world " under June 15th. 01:33:42 and that's all. 01:33:58 yeah, it's under that article 01:34:08 "Distance from the nearest nuclear waste route: 1.5 miles" 01:34:10 uh oh 01:34:13 so I click the little "link" thing. 01:34:20 heheh 01:34:32 what? 01:39:43 lol: http://www.photoshopcontest.com/posts.php?forum=127 01:39:48 gerald was so asking for it, tho 01:39:52 AaronSw, i have no clue what you're talking about. 01:42:46 oh well 01:48:18 BTW, I've got mathematica working. let me know if you need any differential equations solved, wmf 01:49:27 uh, ok 01:49:57 can you use mathematica to simulate the singularity with a CA? 01:51:40 Sure, if you know the CA. 01:52:04 it's not in the book? 01:52:42 No, I don't think it covered the Singularity. 01:54:27 I can compute the square root of Pi to 5000 digits, tho 01:55:00 ripoff 01:55:00 only takes 0.06 seconds 01:55:18 yeah 01:56:12 I can also generate large prime numbers. 02:01:59 i know someone who got sent alot of equipment by some bio company and they get to sit around and play with mathmatica and try to figure out the best way to distribute computations for cancer research 02:02:52 oierw` has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 02:03:29 oierw` (~mathew@pcp994425pcs.goosck01.sc.comcast.net) has joined #swhack 02:08:04 street performer protocol buys DW an iPod: http://pycs.net/workbench/stories/2002/06/17/thankingDaveWiner.html 02:13:18 heh: http://pf.johncglass.com 02:14:47 woa 02:15:03 C.T. Percentage: 11.11% on the amphetadesk ad so far 02:15:12 wow. that's insane. 02:15:14 2 clicks, 18 impressions 02:15:19 CT is nromally like .02 02:15:21 ah. 02:15:32 hehe 02:15:41 tansaku_xt (~sam@n144-001.tokyu-net.catv.ne.jp) has joined #swhack 02:15:47 man, this pornforge is funny 02:20:54 from small pieces loosely joined: "To provide the obligatory twist on Andy Warhol's ironically enduring comment: on the Web, everyone will be famous to fifteen people." 02:21:25 so what is pornforge? I'm too lazy to get an account 02:21:27 heh, i feel the same way as Ben: http://rhumba.pair.com/ben/archives/2001/05/000031.shtml 02:21:50 wmf: it looks like a meta search engine for porn. 02:22:05 people upload images, describe them in detail (color of hair, shaved, clothing, color, age, etc.) 02:22:15 and then you can search down to any criteria. 02:22:20 [off] it doesn't look too good, actually. 02:22:24 [off] i'm not impressed. 02:22:47 so corucopia of the commons... applied to porn 02:22:56 kensaku (~sam@h133-179.tokyu-net.catv.ne.jp) has joined #swhack 02:23:04 welp, installing ie 5.2. 02:23:04 i don't see no cornucopia here 02:23:08 gonna have to sell my soul. 02:23:09 brb. 02:23:09 Morbus has quit ("http://www.disobey.com/") 02:23:22 does MomSw know you're looking at that? 02:24:25 Morbus (morbus@s86.terminal3.totalnetnh.net) has joined #swhack 02:24:27 i'm not looking at it. just working from morbus' description 02:25:31 aaron's a good kid. 02:25:41 ie 5.2 resets homepage. 02:25:56 congrats, you are the 29932 person to let us know 02:26:03 http://people.debian.org/~branden/official_motto.jpg 02:26:15 ah. damn. 02:26:25 only 68 off from a milestone 02:28:01 68 whats? 02:28:36 peoples. 02:35:52 tansaku_xt has quit (Connection timed out) 02:40:00 Morbus has quit ("http://www.disobey.com/") 02:45:56 AaronSw` (~aaronsw@12-249-96-16.client.attbi.com) has joined #swhack 02:47:07 AaronSw is multiplying 02:47:10 maybe he's a CA 02:48:32 Nah, just testing AthenaIRC 03:03:46 wmf has quit ("that is all") 03:27:01 AaronSw` has quit () 03:27:15 bleh. bering sick suyx 04:07:04 heyyyyy 04:07:07 * Ash danc3es 04:07:21 oierw` has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 05:16:00 tansaku_xt (~sam@n144-001.tokyu-net.catv.ne.jp) has joined #swhack 05:19:10 tansaku (~sam@h133-013.tokyu-net.catv.ne.jp) has joined #swhack 05:34:05 kensaku has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 05:34:50 tansaku_xt has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 08:08:49 tansaku has quit ("http://www.neurogrid.net or nothing at all") 10:16:28 tansaku (~sam@h131-018.tokyu-net.catv.ne.jp) has joined #swhack 10:40:31 eikco has quit (Ping timeout: 14400 seconds) 11:12:29 inoxxx (~Snak@194.65.67.98) has joined #swhack 11:12:38 hi to all 11:12:40 :) 11:14:02 looking for help with Snack 4.8.3 for mac :) 11:45:32 inozzz (~Snak@194.65.67.98) has joined #swhack 11:54:26 * sbp waves 11:59:41 Morbus (morbus@s119.terminal3.totalnetnh.net) has joined #swhack 12:00:47 @ http://webword.com/interviews/iff.html 12:01:06 B: http://webword.com/interviews/iff.html from Morbus 12:01:41 B:|AmphetaDesk and the Adventures of Morbus Iff 12:01:49 B::Another, more serious, interview with Morbus Iff. 12:01:50 titled item B 12:02:00 commented item B 12:05:06 inoxxx has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 12:15:49 pixel (~pixel@ns.bhsi.com) has joined #swhack 12:28:22 any new word on Dave? 12:28:46 nope. 12:30:16 at least, no word form the 156 new sources in my amphetadesk =) 12:30:24 that 156 should be 256. 12:30:25 heh, heh 12:30:26 hehe 12:31:49 yeaaah. 12:41:18 gac (~chatzilla@gw.wamsystems.com) has joined #swhack 12:46:58 Morbus: u said: 12:47:03 # to get past the 30 minute killer, delete ~/Library/Preferences/Adobec Font Library 12:47:12 could u help me ? :P 12:47:23 MorbusIff (morbus@s89.terminal3.totalnetnh.net) has joined #swhack 12:48:17 how can i do this? 12:48:31 Morbus has quit (Killed (NickServ (Ghost: MorbusIff!morbus@s89.terminal3.totalnetnh.net))) 12:48:41 # to get past the 30 minute killer, delete ~/Library/Preferences/Adobec Font Library 12:48:44 how can i do this? 12:49:07 MorbusIff is now known as Morbus 12:49:25 where'd you find that? 12:49:29 hehe 12:49:42 http://notabug.com/swhack/chatlogs/2002-04-24 12:49:48 logs :) 12:50:04 ah. well, that was commented, and shouldn't have been logged. 12:50:09 therefore, it no longer exists, so I have no clue what you're talking about. 12:50:18 hehehe 12:50:23 k 12:52:34 AaronSw: so all commented logs are freely available? that's rather cute. 12:55:14 Dr_Qwerty (slava@213.170.77.165) has joined #swhack 12:55:56 Dr_Qwerty has left #swhack 13:08:57 hehe 13:09:03 all availabe :) 13:17:20 hahah 13:17:41 let me suck all logs from the site :))) 13:17:55 AaronSw has kicked inozzz from #swhack 13:17:56 inozzz (~Snak@194.65.67.98) has joined #swhack 13:17:56 Hey, there's commented out text in here 13:18:15 inozzz has left #swhack 13:18:33 inozzz (~Snak@194.65.67.98) has joined #swhack 13:18:48 no, no no :) 13:18:52 im kidding :) 13:19:06 hmm 13:19:12 AaronSw has changed the topic to: can a swhacker think for itself? 13:19:18 AaronSw has changed the topic to: can a swhacker think for itself? 13:19:33 AaronSw: now you kick whatshisname. 13:19:49 i'll kick if he keeps doing annoying stuff 13:20:24 Like logging commented text? 13:20:25 ehhe 13:22:16 inozzz has left #swhack 13:46:18 [[[ 13:46:19 [10:45] damn spammers 13:46:19 [10:46] i lika the spammahs. 13:46:19 [10:46] i bought 30 milion emals for only 19.95 13:46:19 [10:46] what's yer emal? 13:46:31 [10:46] Morbus: director@fbi.gov 13:46:31 [10:47] thanks. i'll sen u an emal 13:46:31 [10:47] try also head_honcho@fcc.gov 13:46:32 [10:47] wow. u have a lot :) 13:46:32 ]]] 13:54:12 [[[ 13:54:13 [10:52] k. davdw, i jus snt you u emal. did u get it? 13:54:13 [10:54] Bah. I forgot my Cookbook today. 13:54:13 [10:54] i haf a cokbook. only 24.95. u wat me to snd u an emal? 13:54:14 [10:55] * DrBacchus eyes Morbus warily 13:54:14 [10:55] ok. for u, 22.95. 13:54:15 ]]] 13:55:01 I'm surprised Morbus hasn't been kickbanned yet :) 13:55:08 in #apache, i mean 13:55:08 heh, heh. 13:55:32 same sorta in-joke "that's not really Morbus" crowd. 13:55:34 we're all gleeful. 13:55:55 AaronSw, read my interview? love me! 13:57:21 heh, k 13:59:22 is there a feed for yesterday's (relative) swhack log? 14:02:21 MorbusIff (morbus@s109.terminal3.totalnetnh.net) has joined #swhack 14:03:09 grumble, grumble 14:03:31 Morbus has quit (Killed (NickServ (Ghost: MorbusIff!morbus@s109.terminal3.totalnetnh.net))) 14:03:43 [[[ 14:03:45 [11:04] ha ha. snding so many emals. crashed my cpu. 14:03:47 ]]] 14:04:15 MorbusIff is now known as Morbus 14:09:20 MorbusIff (morbus@s126.terminal3.totalnetnh.net) has joined #swhack 14:09:21 what I'm thinking for the feed is something like http://blogspace.com/swhack/weblog/yesterday.rss which could just be a symlink to the previous day's rss feed... that way you could include the yesterday.rss feed into amphetadesk, and always see the full list of links (in case some were added after the last time you looked at the feed). 14:14:58 "You give developers a good name because you write good code and you obviously care about your users." 14:15:13 awwww. 14:15:14 14:16:20 btw, we own "Morbus Iff" on google 14:16:20 i am the savior of coding worldwide! 14:16:22 mwahaha 14:16:43 heh, heh. rock on 14:17:01 CONDUCTED VIA EMAIL 14:17:15 pixel, wanna code it? :) 14:25:45 Morbus has quit (No route to host) 14:28:31 not a problem! 14:28:39 there's a few ways it can be done. 14:28:59 have a cron script that changes the symlink every night. 14:29:03 MorbusIff has quit ("http://www.disobey.com/") 14:29:38 woo, apple rocks 14:29:48 or chump could publish the "yesterday.rss" at midnight, as an actual file. 14:30:09 i'm a bit wary of messing with the chump, since it makes it harder to upgrade 14:30:23 (you all love to rub in that apple rocks. got $1000? I can rock with apple too fi you do :) ) 14:30:30 good point. 14:30:31 apple is replacing the display, the keyboard, the cdrom drive, the logic board, the main board and the display bezel on an out-of-warrantee machine for $300 14:30:43 wow. 14:30:49 what happened to the machine? 14:30:50 (actually, we were given $1000 from the insurance co. for this repair) 14:31:09 normal wear and tear, i say :) 14:31:55 that's some good customer service. 14:32:20 no kidding 14:32:22 so the yesterday.rss should be a symlink. 14:32:46 ok, so you just need to calculate yesterday's day at midnight? 14:33:24 yup. 14:33:48 at midnight, have a cron script that creates the symlick in the proper place, pointing to yesterday's file. 14:34:38 I'll see what I can come up with. all I have to work on is a redhat box though (should be pretty much the same.) 14:34:52 this box is a redhat box, so it should be fine 14:34:58 cool. 14:41:39 @ http://www.nytimes.com/2002/06/18/technology/18LINU.html 14:41:53 C: http://www.nytimes.com/2002/06/18/technology/18LINU.html from AaronSw 14:42:05 C:|Disney Embraces GNU/Linux for Film Animation 14:42:12 titled item C 14:43:02 Pixar has always used unix, and Disney has been using unix in various functions since the mid 80s 14:43:14 C::Probably part of their cost-cutting plan: get labor from China, code from the net... 14:43:18 (I was an aspiring computer animator in a previous life) 14:43:22 commented item C 14:43:27 pixel, pls tell the chump 14:46:50 C::Also, Pixar (now nearly a division of Disney) has been using Unix render farms since it's inception, and Disney has been using Unix in various functions (cell coloring, background matte paintings) since the mid 80's 14:47:00 commented item C 14:48:04 I can't imagine Jobs selling out to Disney, but you've got a point there 14:48:55 I don't imagine he'd ever seel out either, but the vast majority of pixar's income is currently from Disney licensing. 14:50:54 Aaron: I thought you'd skimmed all of the comments from the notabug.com logs? could you do so, and/or set a robot.txt file in the meantime to prevent the Web archive from picking it up? 14:51:16 sbp, wanna code it? :) 14:51:29 grep -v "> #" 14:51:33 hehe 14:51:49 well, i skimmed the comments to read them ;) 14:52:12 well it shouldn't be too difficult to do a search and replace by line, then 14:52:26 it's easy for the text ones, but how about the rdf, eh? 14:52:44 robots.txt should do for now until you figure it out 14:52:58 I'm sure that if you want to do something badly enough, you'll figure it out rather quickly 14:53:03 eh, i looked thru them -- there wasn't much that was that incriminating 14:53:16 even if i skimmed the logs from there, they'd still be in the loggy/logster thing 14:54:08 well, we switched from # to [off] at some point. I'll find out when that was 14:54:25 but [off] will appear in the blogspace logs 14:54:34 we gotta do a big merge sometime 14:55:09 2002-06-04 14:55:34 yes. just delete # comments from before 2002-06-04 from notabug, and [off] from logster after 2002-06-04 14:56:01 in fact, if you just take the blogspace logs for before 2002-06-04 and the notabug logs from after 2002-06-04, it'll do it automatically 14:56:24 what about spots where one dropped out? 14:56:26 (there's just the gap where blogspace went down to account for) 14:56:42 well, pick them up from notabug.com and run grep -v "> #" over it or whatever 14:57:17