IRC log of swhack on 2002-06-14

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00:10:53 [walloper]

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00:20:39 [sbp]

* sbp tunes into WXYT...

00:45:46 [wmf]

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00:46:24 [AaronSw]

wmf

00:46:30 [AaronSw]

wmf

00:46:30 [AaronSw]

wmf

00:46:35 [bensw]

welcom wmf

00:46:36 [wmf]

swhack

00:46:37 [wmf]

swhack

00:46:38 [wmf]

swhack

00:46:47 [AaronSw]

* AaronSw dances

00:46:47 [wmf]

hey bensw

00:46:47 [bensw]

s/welcom/welcome/

00:46:58 [AaronSw]

wmf, wmf, wmf could become the new OONTZ

00:47:27 [bensw]

Wh-im-ph? AaronSw

00:48:02 [bensw]

how would you pronunce it?

00:48:11 [AaronSw]

woomph

00:50:02 [jeremiah]

hmm

00:50:34 [jeremiah]

* jeremiah thinks there needs to be an XSL template to translate dave's blogroll OPML files into RDF

00:51:26 [AaronSw]

that sounds like a job for... redmonk!

00:52:12 [jeremiah]

well the idea behind it is great, having people rate websites through links

00:52:29 [jeremiah]

and specified links at that

00:52:49 [jeremiah]

I'm reading the RDF primer and am sort of excited about Plesh again

00:53:19 [wmf]

heh: "Windows is only cheaper than Mac if your time has no value"

00:54:54 [jeremiah]

so I used to want to make everything have XMLRPC interfaces

00:55:01 [jeremiah]

now I want everything to have RDF

00:55:08 [AaronSw]

woohoo!

00:55:30 [jeremiah]

of course I think there is still use for RPC

00:55:45 [jeremiah]

or at least maybe there needs to be a better way to "put" information

00:55:48 [jeremiah]

other than CGI

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00:56:38 [walloper]

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00:57:02 [BenSw]

* BenSw is listenin

00:57:07 [jeremiah]

aaronsw: what kind of actual human interfaces have been recommended for all of this RDF data?

00:57:47 [AaronSw]

Most work has been done for specific types of RDF data now, I think.

00:57:55 [AaronSw]

There are a bunch of people trying to build RDF browsers tho...

00:57:58 [sbp]

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00:58:06 [AaronSw]

Oh, and that Haystack stuff is awesome!

00:58:12 [jeremiah]

I don't know if most people would want to use an RDF browser

00:58:12 [sbp]

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00:58:15 [jeremiah]

.google haystack

00:58:38 [AaronSw]

http://wmf.editthispage.com/discuss/msgReader$7115?mode=topic

00:58:39 [jeremiah]

* jeremiah notes there isn't a bot

00:58:51 [AaronSw]

err http://wmf.editthispage.com/discuss/msgReader$7134?mode=day

00:59:28 [wmf]

heh

00:59:28 [AaronSw]

They demoed at WWW2002, the stuff is really nice.

00:59:52 [jeremiah]

you can embed RDF into html files, right?

00:59:57 [AaronSw]

yep

01:00:00 [jeremiah]

cool

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01:00:43 [jeremiah]

I think the big problem will always be that no one wants to look up a format that they have to follow, they just want to make a document

01:01:01 [AaronSw]

ooh, they redid their website: http://haystack.lcs.mit.edu/

01:01:09 [wmf]

they have some new screenshots in the same directory

01:01:24 [wmf]

I don't like the sound of "Ozone Personal Edition"

01:02:09 [AaronSw]

why's that?

01:02:23 [AaronSw]

because it implies an expensive professional edition?

01:02:31 [wmf]

yep, exactly

01:02:49 [wmf]

* wmf shudders at the thought of Scopeware pricing

01:02:50 [jeremiah]

because it sounds like you have to buy your own atmosphere

01:03:03 [jeremiah]

they want to charge you for the air you breath...

01:03:35 [AaronSw]

I asked them about that

01:04:00 [AaronSw]

They said that it's totally open source, they just have this commercial inferiority complex.

01:04:06 [wmf]

phew

01:04:08 [jeremiah]

hmm

01:04:14 [AaronSw]

well, they didn't say it like that

01:04:29 [AaronSw]

but that's basically what it boiled down to

01:04:36 [AaronSw]

I just hope I can get them to release before they're bought out.

01:04:51 [wmf]

good point

01:04:51 [AaronSw]

heh, the song on WOPN right now is pretty funny. "Ramen Noodles and Some Jolt"

01:04:58 [jeremiah]

so since mozilla has all this RDF stuff built in, it should be easy to make a little app that acts like the "digital dashboard" john robb keeps talking about using Radio for

01:05:32 [wmf]

M-logging?

01:05:43 [jeremiah]

hmm?

01:05:43 [AaronSw]

* AaronSw snorts

01:06:01 [wmf]

Mozilla-logging

01:06:33 [jeremiah]

I suppose it's supposed to be O-Zone not Ozone

01:06:37 [jeremiah]

like "the zone of O"

01:09:27 [AaronSw]

i think it's an oxygen pun

01:09:35 [jeremiah]

probably

01:09:49 [jeremiah]

I'm so out of it I'm loosing the meanings to thinks right and left

01:09:55 [jeremiah]

tommorow is the last day of exams

01:10:02 [AaronSw]

I think it's time to beg them for code again.

01:10:09 [jeremiah]

exams are an absolutely brutal and rediculus concept

01:10:24 [AaronSw]

yep

01:10:34 [BenSw]

* BenSw is awat

01:10:39 [BenSw]

* BenSw is away

01:10:42 [jeremiah]

information flows through me and the important stuff stays

01:10:55 [jeremiah]

I'm not an information bucket, I'm a net

01:12:16 [AaronSw]

lol, Alice and Bob are special guests in the Cryptography group at MIT

01:12:36 [wmf]

of course

01:12:45 [AaronSw]

I bet they have offices.

01:12:57 [AaronSw]

Hm, actually I walked around that floor. I didn't see any.

01:13:41 [AaronSw]

* AaronSw looks for people he can talk into sending him contraband haystack code

01:14:57 [wmf]

heh

01:15:11 [wmf]

<AaronSw> I am leet, give me warez

01:15:32 [AaronSw]

that works on cory

01:15:53 [AaronSw]

I was like, I am leet, please give me your novels

01:15:57 [AaronSw]

and he emailed them to me

01:16:07 [wmf]

cool

01:16:45 [AaronSw]

now he's spamming me with 10% discounts on wolfram's book

01:16:58 [AaronSw]

i already have two copies... anyone here interested?

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01:17:16 [jeremiah]

* jeremiah is

01:17:23 [wmf]

me, me

01:17:24 [jeremiah]

I was gonna buy it until I realized I'm poor

01:18:14 [AaronSw]

it's $40, down from $44: http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/redirect?tag=love102-20&path=stl/3MK4V07B7B8Z3

01:18:27 [redmonk]

hi all

01:18:41 [AaronSw]

hey redmonk. wanna write a script to convert blogroll.opml files to rdf?

01:18:42 [jeremiah]

aaronsw: I've been using/abusing my public library lately

01:18:45 [jeremiah]

its so much cheaper

01:18:58 [AaronSw]

yeah, i never buy books

01:18:59 [jeremiah]

much less selection

01:19:03 [redmonk]

aaronsw: whoo knows? i have a lot of time right about now

01:19:06 [AaronSw]

interlibrary loan, man

01:19:11 [jeremiah]

I might hit-up the w&m library soon

01:19:17 [AaronSw]

redmonk, cool!

01:19:28 [redmonk]

not really. i just got fired.

01:19:49 [AaronSw]

what?!?!

01:19:54 [sbp]

really?

01:19:59 [redmonk]

really.

01:20:06 [redmonk]

long long story.

01:20:34 [redmonk]

i've got two weeks severance, so i'll end up with two more paychecks

01:20:37 [redmonk]

which is good.

01:20:42 [AaronSw]

You finally get your app deployed and then they fire you?

01:20:42 [redmonk]

but i'm out on my butt

01:20:54 [redmonk]

well, the deployment didn't go so hot.

01:21:00 [redmonk]

actually, it didn't go.

01:22:07 [redmonk]

anyway...

01:22:22 [jeremiah]

* jeremiah apologizes for ducking out so early but explains that tommorow holds his final two exams and then he'll be free

01:22:48 [sbp]

good luck

01:22:49 [redmonk]

i'm now looking for another job.

01:22:55 [jeremiah]

thanks sbp

01:23:15 [AaronSw]

Well, at least you didn't get fired for hanging out on IRC... it was a second-degree effect of hanging out on IRC.

01:23:23 [AaronSw]

Shoot, that means it's still my fault.

01:23:45 [redmonk]

heh. don't worry, I was not fired for hanging out on IRC.

01:24:23 [AaronSw]

Right, you were fired because your app didn't work, because you were hanging out on IRC when you wrote it.

01:24:31 [wmf]

you rolled out a new app and got immediately downsized?

01:24:58 [AaronSw]

I guess the app didn't have enough job security code

01:25:47 [redmonk]

not really. they're scrapping WebObjects for the app. handing it over to a DOT-NOT programmer

01:26:10 [wmf]

too much job security code, then

01:26:27 [AaronSw]

AccordianGuy is the only dot-not programmer I know.

01:26:27 [redmonk]

yeah

01:26:52 [wmf]

AaronSw: you're not thinking like a PHB

01:27:07 [redmonk]

*sigh*

01:27:27 [AaronSw]

<PHB> . o O ( dot-not -> popularity -> accordians -> hot chicks )

01:27:37 [wmf]

heh

01:27:40 [AaronSw]

* AaronSw gives redmonk a hug

01:28:02 [AaronSw]

It'll be ok. You can always work for UserLand.

01:28:15 [redmonk]

* redmonk runs screaming into a wall

01:28:24 [AaronSw]

lol: http://scriptingnews.userland.com/backissues/2002/06/13#When:1:37:51PM

01:28:36 [wmf]

come on AaronSw, don't traumatize him

01:28:41 [sbp]

splutch and make it all better

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01:30:20 [redmonk]

hi Morbus

01:30:32 [AaronSw]

Morb's deploying an app today.

01:30:43 [AaronSw]

see http://blogspace.com/swhack/weblog/2002/06/13/#i1024002651.914514

01:30:47 [redmonk]

heh.

01:30:59 [AaronSw]

"AmphetaDesk Exclusive: 0.93 imminent, or port to Java by alien fungus-programmers? Its creator reveals all"

01:31:11 [Morbus]

monk. hey.

01:31:16 [Morbus]

do me a favor, eh?

01:31:16 [Morbus]

you have a moemnt?

01:31:26 [wmf]

lol

01:31:27 [Morbus]

i need one of you to test os x and one of you to test the source, if you can

01:31:31 [wmf]

this is hilarious

01:31:39 [Morbus]

win32 is covered.

01:31:50 [AaronSw]

wmf, what?

01:31:53 [AaronSw]

Morbus, i'm up for it

01:31:58 [Morbus]

the interview?

01:32:03 [wmf]

the interview

01:32:09 [AaronSw]

ah. thx

01:32:27 [Morbus]

k, test out the os x version at sf.net/projects/amphetadesk

01:32:28 [wmf]

I should book you guys as guest hosts on HTP TV

01:32:44 [sbp]

heh, heh

01:32:47 [Morbus]

heh!

01:32:53 [redmonk]

heh

01:33:13 [Morbus]

can someone test out the source dl?

01:33:37 [AaronSw]

i'll take source

01:33:45 [AaronSw]

ooh, i wanna be on HTP TV!

01:33:47 [Morbus]

and os x?

01:35:04 [AaronSw]

please don't tell me this tgz just spit up all over my downloads folder

01:35:09 [wmf]

I can't wait till Rael has gotten a complete blogging system to fit in a .sig

01:35:34 [Morbus]

heh, heh. probably.

01:35:36 [AaronSw]

heh, that's totally next

01:35:43 [AaronSw]

* AaronSw kills Morbus

01:35:53 [Morbus]

that's the source?

01:35:53 [wmf]

after all, he's got an aggregator in 55 lines of perl

01:36:09 [AaronSw]

Morbus, yes

01:36:14 [wmf]

first reviews of 0.93 are in, and users are calling for Morbus's head!

01:36:16 [Morbus]

k. i'll reupload in a bit.

01:36:18 [redmonk]

heh. now i can clean a bunch of shit off my hard drive

01:36:22 [Morbus]

heh, heh!

01:36:32 [AaronSw]

in perl the difference between 55 lines and 1 is pretty small

01:36:47 [AaronSw]

aggregating will probably be built into perl6 so it'll be like

01:36:49 [wmf]

right

01:36:51 [AaronSw]

@*TY#&*!*^#&~~!!!!

01:36:54 [Morbus]

lol

01:37:00 [wmf]

you just change all the variables to be one letter

01:37:04 [sbp]

heh

01:37:06 [AaronSw]

and amphetadesk will come in at a whopping 1MB

01:37:11 [AaronSw]

err, i mean two lines

01:37:33 [Morbus]

and a 20k binary ;)

01:37:38 [AaronSw]

x=2l;kw93j(@#(#)839Xa9#90323834893woD-==3--$=';3893aS(38wA948_W+)->383

01:37:38 [thelsdj]

AaronSw, i see how you used the @ and # modifiers to make it output as an outline, superb!

01:37:48 [AaronSw]

thank you

01:38:31 [AaronSw]

* AaronSw installs HTTP::Date

01:39:40 [Morbus]

AaronSw: uploading a new source. will be a bit.

01:39:43 [Morbus]

i'll probably get disconnected .

01:39:55 [Morbus]

have you tried the os x version yet?

01:39:57 [AaronSw]

does it have any code changes?

01:40:11 [AaronSw]

i'll grab os x now

01:40:32 [Morbus]

no, but it has the binary.

01:40:37 [Morbus]

you don't need the HTTP::Date crap with it.

01:40:39 [Morbus]

or, you shouldn;t.

01:40:52 [AaronSw]

i meant does the version you're uploading have code changes

01:41:00 [Morbus]

no, just a parent folder.

01:41:06 [redmonk]

Morbus: i got fired today - think DW will hire me? :)

01:41:06 [AaronSw]

ok

01:41:14 [Morbus]

you got fired?

01:41:15 [Morbus]

what the frel for?

01:41:21 [Morbus]

and no. Dave Winer hates your guts.

01:41:22 [redmonk]

long story.

01:41:24 [Morbus]

i told him you were working for me.

01:41:26 [redmonk]

:)

01:41:28 [AaronSw]

heh, crAzy icon

01:41:32 [Morbus]

:)

01:41:33 [redmonk]

you didn't!

01:41:37 [Morbus]

all the imagery changed.

01:41:40 [redmonk]

god, i'll never get a link again

01:41:42 [redmonk]

lol

01:41:43 [Morbus]

heh, heh.

01:41:45 [AaronSw]

"Can't open perl script '/Volumes/AmphetaDesk'"

01:41:55 [Morbus]

try moving to the HD

01:42:01 [Morbus]

wait, really?

01:42:06 [AaronSw]

ah, good call

01:42:07 [Morbus]

it worked .. goddamit.

01:42:12 [AaronSw]

you need one of those invisible folder thingies

01:42:19 [AaronSw]

that say "jerk! move it to your hd"

01:42:20 [Morbus]

is there an AmphetaDesk.pl in that image?

01:42:33 [AaronSw]

no, doesn't look like it

01:42:37 [AaronSw]

just the aqua app

01:42:37 [Morbus]

ok.

01:42:40 [Morbus]

wait about 20 minutes.

01:42:44 [AaronSw]

heh

01:42:44 [Morbus]

i screwed up the first upload.

01:42:48 [Morbus]

and uploaded again.

01:42:50 [sbp]

Wings have won the cup, BTW

01:42:52 [AaronSw]

good thing you got alpha testers

01:42:53 [Morbus]

you probably have a cached version.

01:43:08 [Morbus]

do you know what mirror you dled it from?

01:43:13 [Morbus]

cos I dled a copy, and it did come with the pl

01:43:14 [AaronSw]

us.dl

01:43:20 [Morbus]

west?

01:43:35 [wmf]

what's wrong with this picture? http://www.thinksecret.com/features/jaguarmiscellaneous/images/bluetoothfileexchangeabout.html

01:44:08 [AaronSw]

Morbus, 204.157.3.229

01:44:18 [AaronSw]

wmf, i don't know, what?

01:44:53 [Morbus]

AaronSw: filesize on the .gz should be 1402523

01:45:03 [AaronSw]

1406857

01:45:04 [wmf]

somehow the combination of bluetooth and an iMac just doesn't work for me. I imagine BT being used on portable machines

01:45:16 [AaronSw]

hm

01:45:25 [Morbus]

yeah, you got the bad one.

01:45:25 [Morbus]

wait about 20

01:45:42 [AaronSw]

that's about how long this recursive get of CPAN is going to take

01:46:05 [AaronSw]

i'm not sure why it needs to download a Toke for HTTP::Date

01:46:30 [Morbus]

cos HTTP::Date is part of HTTP::Parser which requires tons of ass.

01:47:26 [Morbus]

AaronSw: http://west.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/amphetadesk/amphetadesk-osx-v0.93.dmg.gz

01:47:27 [Morbus]

try that one.

01:47:53 [wmf]

lol, I love TimBL's comment in the interview

01:48:03 [Morbus]

holy turd.

01:48:07 [Morbus]

someone just contributed money to ampheta.

01:48:09 [Morbus]

woot.

01:49:32 [Morbus]

AaronSw: any luck?

01:49:41 [AaronSw]

hold, on, downloading that one now

01:49:59 [Morbus]

they call me incessant man

01:51:42 [AaronSw]

Morbus, the icon looks like a short lightsaber when it's real small

01:51:48 [AaronSw]

Can't locate File/Listing.pm in @INC (@INC contains: /Applications/AmphetaDesk/lib /Applications/AmphetaDesk/AmphetaDesk.app/Contents/Perl/Library/darwin /Applications/AmphetaDesk/AmphetaDesk.app/Contents/Perl/Library /System/Library/Perl/darwin /System/Library/Perl /Library/Perl/darwin /Library/Perl /Library/Perl /Network/Library/Perl/darwin /Network/Library/Perl /Network/Library/Perl .) at /Applications/AmphetaDesk/AmphetaDesk.app/Contents/Perl/Library/LWP/Pr

01:51:48 [AaronSw]

BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at /Applications/AmphetaDesk/AmphetaDesk.app/Contents/Perl/Library/LWP/Protocol/ftp.pm line 15.

01:51:48 [AaronSw]

Compilation failed in require at /Applications/AmphetaDesk/AmphetaDesk.app/../AmphetaDesk.pl line 39.

01:51:49 [Morbus]

heheheh

01:51:53 [AaronSw]

BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at /Applications/AmphetaDesk/AmphetaDesk.app/../AmphetaDesk.pl line 39.

01:52:04 [AaronSw]

I don't think that's suppopsed to happen

01:52:08 [Morbus]

well, that's a new one.

01:52:25 [Morbus]

i've never even heard of File::Listing/

01:53:12 [Morbus]

AaronSw: install File::Listing

01:53:18 [Morbus]

i've never even heard of it. but it exists on my box

01:53:24 [AaronSw]

i thought it was supposed to come with!!!

01:53:52 [Morbus]

it's supposed to include all nonstandard modules.

01:54:01 [AaronSw]

this is apparently nonstandard

01:54:04 [Morbus]

you're the second of 10 testers who've had problems with the os x version.

01:54:11 [Morbus]

which is odd.

01:54:18 [Morbus]

i've tested on people with and without devtools

01:54:19 [AaronSw]

cpan> install File::Listing

01:54:19 [AaronSw]

File::Listing is up to date.

01:54:23 [Morbus]

-r--r--r-- 1 root admin 8380 Mar 20 1999 Listing.pm

01:54:33 [Morbus]

in /Library/Perl/File

01:54:43 [AaronSw]

ah, now it's working

01:54:47 [Morbus]

?

01:55:07 [AaronSw]

whee, it's up

01:55:25 [Morbus]

what'd you do?

01:55:35 [AaronSw]

i guess it came with the rest of HTTP::*

01:55:49 [AaronSw]

ah, yes it did

01:56:07 [Morbus]

huh.

01:56:07 [Morbus]

k.

01:58:13 [AaronSw]

ugh, CPAN is downloading a new version of perl

01:58:23 [wmf]

mwhahaa

01:58:36 [wmf]

CPAN ends up screwing up my system every time I use it

01:58:41 [Morbus]

lol.

01:58:41 [Morbus]

cancel it.

01:58:44 [AaronSw]

i did

01:58:45 [Morbus]

yeah, same here.

01:58:48 [AaronSw]

i hate the perl config question

01:58:49 [AaronSw]

s

01:58:49 [wmf]

dependencies spiraling out of control...

01:58:52 [AaronSw]

they go on forever

01:59:06 [AaronSw]

"Are you running Munix? Funix? Tunix? Blunix? Runix?

01:59:11 [Morbus]

it wouldn't be so bad if perl actually compiled well on os x ;)

01:59:26 [Morbus]

do you wear pants? dance? do you have sconces?

01:59:26 [AaronSw]

Do you have a weird gethostname that only three people in the world actually have and that we'll confuse you y writing for 5000 pagfes about?

01:59:26 [wmf]

"Do you think my daugher is hot? [y]"

01:59:37 [AaronSw]

is this ball bouncing: ******

02:00:06 [AaronSw]

Morbus, what's up with this? 007\'s Domain - www.007sdomain.com

02:00:10 [AaronSw]

backslashes?

02:00:22 [Morbus]

blame syndic8.

02:00:25 [Morbus]

actually, blame radio.

02:00:30 [Morbus]

it's literally part of his fee.d

02:00:34 [AaronSw]

heh

02:00:48 [Morbus]

i checked that too :)

02:01:24 [sbp]

you need an ACCOUNT_FOR_DORKINESS option

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02:02:30 [AaronSw]

ooh, i can spam straight from ampheta

02:02:48 [Morbus]

heh, heh.

02:03:03 [Morbus]

keeping your best interests at heart, i am.

02:03:43 [AaronSw]

"Each time AmphetaDesk contacts the outside world, it'll wait 10 seconds for a response from the remote server before giving up." -- it says 10 seconds even when i changed it to 15

02:05:39 [sbp]

Smackdown! Amphy vs. Spamplesh

02:05:47 [Morbus]

AaronSw: you mean in the descroption? or the input?

02:05:57 [AaronSw]

descroption

02:06:01 [Morbus]

intentional

02:06:14 [AaronSw]

suckyial

02:06:18 [Morbus]

heh.

02:06:19 [Morbus]

file a bug, bitch ;)

02:06:25 [Morbus]

i'll fix it.

02:06:28 [Morbus]

do i mention that the default is 10?

02:06:49 [AaronSw]

i don't think so

02:06:53 [Morbus]

k

02:06:56 [Morbus]

i'll fix it.

02:07:00 [AaronSw]

hwo come i have tow items saying the feed is generated by syp, when it's not?

02:07:16 [Morbus]

... you shouldn't

02:07:29 [AaronSw]

* AaronSw takes it to disobey

02:07:30 [Morbus]

oh.

02:07:39 [Morbus]

you probably downloaded the channel before I updated the website

02:07:41 [Morbus]

which i just barely did.

02:07:47 [Morbus]

http://www.disobey.com/amphetadesk/news.html

02:07:50 [Morbus]

and news.xml

02:07:58 [deltab]

I saw http://chaos.fullerton.edu/~jimw/kill-time/#note12 and thought of sbp

02:09:21 [sbp]

heh, cool. "Yakka foob mog. Grug pubbawup zink wattoom gazork. Chumble spuzz."

02:14:33 [Ash]

RE ASH

02:15:03 [sbp]

Hey there

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02:24:18 [sbp]

Gotta run

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02:28:10 [Morbus]

AaronSw, sbp: http://www.librarystuff.net/

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02:40:53 [Morbus]

too many windows!

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03:01:34 [Morbus]

Aaron: gonna have to get deus to make a new os x .app. just had a second report.

03:01:50 [AaronSw]

hm

03:02:25 [Morbus]

btw: jon udell saw/read the interview

03:02:27 [Morbus]

[off] I saw that. You all are clearly having too much fun :-)

03:02:54 [AaronSw]

hehehe

03:03:01 [AaronSw]

good thing he didn't link

03:03:08 [Morbus]

yet, at least ;)

03:04:30 [Morbus]

did you see librarystuff.net?

03:04:37 [AaronSw]

aargh, now amphy wants Compress::Zlib

03:04:44 [AaronSw]

it never ends, does it

03:04:48 [Morbus]

huh?

03:04:54 [Morbus]

i thought you said you had it working

03:05:00 [AaronSw]

the mac version

03:05:20 [AaronSw]

now i'm trying src

03:05:29 [Morbus]

ah.

03:05:33 [Morbus]

you can actually comment on that line.

03:05:39 [Morbus]

its currently not used.

03:05:50 [Morbus]

it was merely added for future use so I wouldn't have to recreate the wrappers

03:05:51 [AaronSw]

good, cuz zlib fails its tests

03:06:03 [Morbus]

yeah, "force install Compress::Zlib" will shut that up ;)

03:06:21 [AaronSw]

XML::Parser now

03:06:26 [AaronSw]

can you make a list of these things?

03:06:35 [Morbus]

check the README.txt, bitch.

03:07:17 [AaronSw]

ugh, it can't find expat

03:07:28 [Morbus]

check the readme.txt bitch!

03:07:30 [Morbus]

goddamint.

03:08:04 [AaronSw]

i hate reading readmes

03:08:18 [Morbus]

well, don't come crawling to me.

03:12:22 [AaronSw]

cpan> install XML::Parser

03:12:22 [AaronSw]

Warning: Cannot install XML::Parser, don't know what it is.

03:13:10 [Morbus]

pff.

03:13:12 [Morbus]

that's a new one.

03:15:19 [AaronSw]

it knew what it was a second ago...

03:15:44 [Morbus]

heh, heh.

03:15:47 [Morbus]

i have no clue what you're doing.

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03:40:17 [AaronSw]

woo, it runs

03:40:23 [AaronSw]

heh: GUI_CMD OPEN_URL http://127.0.0.1:4888/index.html

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06:15:33 [deltab]

yes, fantastic

06:15:41 [deltab]

thanks, Tim!

06:17:31 [deltab]

oops, that's in response to TimBL's comment on the interview

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10:17:32 [Morbus]

bwahah.

10:17:39 [Morbus]

the interview got on theshiftedlibrarian.com

10:17:42 [Morbus]

everyone reads tsl.

10:20:10 [Morbus]

[off] whoo! scored another $25 this morning

10:20:21 [Morbus]

[off] that's like... $65 total!

10:21:41 [Morbus]

that's a lot of f's.http://www.pycs.net/workbench/2002/06/14.html#a160

10:21:52 [Morbus]

poor sbp. left out of the mention

10:27:13 [Morbus]

sam ruby links to it.

10:27:23 [Morbus]

[[[

10:27:27 [Morbus]

]]]

10:27:29 [Morbus]

Aaron Swartz: How can AmphetaDesk possibly compete?

10:27:31 [Morbus]

]]]

10:27:36 [Morbus]

heheheh. that's all he siad. that rocks.

10:28:42 [Morbus]

voidstar: Swhack Weblog: HAPPY BURTHDTAY TO TEH ASH!!!! : Coming up next... Giant Man-Eating Zombies: Should they be allowed in W3C Working Groups, or not? Are Aaron and Morbus somehow related? I think we should be told.

10:28:54 [Morbus]

heh, heh

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10:48:12 [Morbus]

bwahahah

10:48:20 [Morbus]

aaron, sbp: the interview is #33 on daypop

10:48:41 [Morbus]

http://www.daypop.com/search?q=link%3Ablogspace.com/swhack/weblog/2002/06/13/%23i1024002651.914514&t=w&max=672

10:48:54 [Morbus]

quick, must find mor epeople to link!

10:48:55 [Morbus]

<G>

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12:02:07 [AaronSw]

we've created a monster

12:04:04 [Morbus]

osx wrapper: this fucking rocks -- the wrapper makes this totally worthwhile on its own.

12:04:13 [Morbus]

AaronSw: out of the people i've heard, you're 1 of 2 of 5.

12:04:22 [Morbus]

re: the interview? yes, yes, we have :)

12:04:28 [Morbus]

it'll probably go higher on daypop today.

12:05:39 [AaronSw]

wow, weblog is in the OED from 1993

12:08:24 [Morbus]

whoo: Activity Percentile (last week): 98.1809%

12:08:26 [Morbus]

on SF.

12:08:27 [Morbus]

yesss.

12:11:55 [deltab]

that puts it at #173

12:13:15 [Morbus]

damn.

12:13:22 [Morbus]

hopefully, the DL binge today will push it up.

12:15:38 [Morbus]

i'm hoping for top #100 ;)

12:32:57 [AaronSw]

that's easy, just build in a p2p client

12:39:23 [Morbus]

heh, heh.

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12:50:05 [Morbus]

bitsko!

12:50:09 [bitsko]

Morbus!

12:50:17 [bitsko]

nice interview, folks!

12:50:23 [AaronSw]

thanks! :)

12:50:24 [Morbus]

:)

12:50:32 [AaronSw]

<sbp> aww, you didn't have to send flowers

12:50:55 [Morbus]

honestly, it started out as a joke, but it *did* turn into a good one.

12:51:02 [bitsko]

didn't pull any punches, no? :)

12:51:14 [Morbus]

i wouldnt expect any of us too :)

12:52:08 [Morbus]

[[[

12:52:09 [Morbus]

[09:50] <sal> im a minimalist about such things, though

12:52:09 [Morbus]

[09:52] <sal> how to best explain the need for distributed systems to management? redundancy?

12:52:09 [Morbus]

[09:52] <Morbus> bodies.

12:52:09 [Morbus]

[09:53] <Morbus> think about it: if you bury a single body in one place, when the police find it, you're screwed.

12:52:10 [Morbus]

[09:53] <ashcraft> lol

12:52:12 [Morbus]

[09:53] <Morbus> but cut a body up and bury it all over the place, and you're maximizing your potential.

12:52:14 [Morbus]

]]]

12:53:04 [Morbus]

AaronSw: you asked for Dan from ntk in #ia the other day. what's his nick?

12:53:23 [AaronSw]

hold on, it'll come to me

12:54:07 [Morbus]

[[[

12:54:07 [Morbus]

[09:54] <sal> "kevin always sez: computers are like bodies...you never know where you're going to bury them"

12:54:07 [Morbus]

[09:54] <ashcraft> that's classic......

12:54:08 [Morbus]

]]]

12:54:10 [AaronSw]

<malaclyps>

12:54:19 [Morbus]

thankee. i didn't realize that was him.

12:54:23 [Morbus]

i still want my flipping archive <G>

12:56:20 [Morbus]

[[[

12:56:21 [Morbus]

[09:57] <ashcraft> i just submitted that to http://www.geekissues.com/quotes/

12:56:21 [Morbus]

[09:57] <Morbus> heh, oh man <G>

12:56:21 [Morbus]

[09:57] <Morbus> we need to mod that up :)

12:56:21 [Morbus]

]]]

12:56:56 [bitsko]

Morbus: no announce on rss-dev?

12:57:30 [Morbus]

nah, last time I did, AaronSw yelled at me.

12:57:32 [Morbus]

he yells at me a lot.

12:57:39 [AaronSw]

heh

12:57:40 [Morbus]

but, if you want to forward it, that should get past him ;)

12:57:50 [AaronSw]

you already posted it to three lists i'm on

12:57:53 [Morbus]

see, AaronSw, I *do* listen occassoinally :)

12:57:58 [Morbus]

three? what three?

12:58:01 [Morbus]

i only know of two.

12:58:21 [AaronSw]

maybe there were only two

12:58:39 [Morbus]

synd* and thelist were the only mLs besides my own that I put it on, i thoguht.

12:59:06 [bitsko]

ya know, that 20 year old technology UseNet had crosspost filtering

13:06:24 [bitsko]

hehe, Warner drops Macrovision (finally)

13:09:26 [bitsko]

oh no, faux-retro computers!

13:14:55 [bitsko]

* bitsko has a real retro computer: http://www.psych.usyd.edu.au/pdp-11/Images/11_10.jpeg

13:15:34 [AaronSw]

oooh

13:15:45 [AaronSw]

I want a Cray for the living room

13:16:21 [bitsko]

you could of picked one up a short while ago, for just the cost of packing and shipping ;)

13:16:31 [bitsko]

on eBay, I think

13:16:49 [bitsko]

Cray's have a really nice padded bench around them!

13:17:08 [bitsko]

Apple has (had?) a purple Cray

13:18:51 [AaronSw]

becnh: thus the living room

13:19:28 [bitsko]

there's a Cray office on the other side of my parking lot

13:19:43 [bitsko]

of course, Kinko's now rents half the building

13:37:24 [Morbus]

AaronSw!

13:37:27 [Morbus]

we're #10

13:37:29 [Morbus]

on daypop! <G>

13:37:30 [Morbus]

WHOoOo!

13:44:30 [Ash-w]

WHEEEEEEEE

13:44:35 [Morbus]

yeah, man.

13:44:39 [Morbus]

hey, Ash, you say your tree files, right? <G>

13:45:04 [Ash-w]

heh heh

13:45:19 [Ash-w]

What's up, morbus?

13:45:21 [Ash-w]

* Ash-w yawns

13:45:26 [Morbus]

nothing, Ash, nothing. i'm uber tired.

13:46:32 [Ash-w]

Yeah, me too.

13:46:41 [Ash-w]

I was up sorta late last night watching "Logan's Run"

13:47:15 [Ash-w]

man that movie is cheezy

13:47:21 [Ash-w]

I had completely forgotten how bad it was. Hah.

13:47:30 [Ash-w]

(I got a DVD of it yesterday for $7)

13:48:16 [Morbus]

heheh. logan's run, yeahah.

13:48:55 [Ash-w]

Yeah baby, yeah!

13:48:58 [Ash-w]

RENEW

13:50:23 [AaronSw]

whoohoo!

13:55:25 [Morbus]

aaron: your Google feed has to many closing tables in it.

13:55:32 [Morbus]

fucking up your RSS/HTML display.

13:55:39 [Morbus]

Shameless Google-Promotion

13:55:41 [AaronSw]

heh, oops

13:57:14 [AaronSw]

is it fixed now?

14:01:44 [Morbus]

AaronSw: yup

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14:34:41 [sbp]

10 on daypop? cool!

14:35:04 [AaronSw]

<AaronSw> Patrick: "almost anything is more productive without me"

14:35:04 [AaronSw]

<AaronSw> JanG: "i don't think that's the case, patrick. we all love you"

14:35:09 [Morbus]

yeah, sbp. and rising.

14:36:35 [bitsko]

cool, they finally include a legend for what the damn colored ticks mean!

14:37:53 [sbp]

cool: http://www.daypop.com/search?q=link%3Ablogspace.com/swhack/weblog/2002/06/13/%23i1024002651.914514&t=w&max=672

14:38:51 [AaronSw]

"Aaron Swartz"

14:39:00 [sbp]

yeah. how did they get that?

14:39:47 [sbp]

heh, heh: "Are Aaron and Morbus somehow related? I think we should be told." - http://www.voidstar.com/

14:40:27 [AaronSw]

lol: "It looks like you're writing a letter," the paper clip announced. "Would you like help?" it continued. "Get help with writing the letter," it suggested redundantly. "Just type the letter without help," it offered unhelpfully.

14:40:32 [AaronSw]

- http://staging.infoworld.com/articles/op/xml/02/06/10/020610opcurve.xml?Template=/storypages/printfriendly.html

14:42:50 [sbp]

heh, the workbench guy didn't read the whole thing

14:43:14 [Morbus]

that's rogers cadenhead.

14:43:23 [Morbus]

he writes java books. was a fan of amphetadesk for a while.

14:43:24 [sbp]

yep

14:43:35 [sbp]

writes Java books? oh, well, whaddya know...

14:44:55 [Morbus]

[off] i'm kinda disappointed winer hasn't responded.

14:45:02 [Morbus]

[off] he's probably coming physically to kick my ass

14:45:12 [Morbus]

[off] as per his blog: "It's going to be a light day here on Scripting News. Lots of non-Internet stuff going on. "

14:45:13 [AaronSw]

[off] that'd be the off-internet stuff today

14:45:16 [Morbus]

!!

14:45:18 [AaronSw]

[off] jinx

14:45:20 [Morbus]

[off] jink!

14:45:25 [Morbus]

[off] er, that too.

14:45:26 [sbp]

[off] heh, heh

14:45:49 [sbp]

[OLM]

14:46:31 [sbp]

[off] [OLM] that you can be sure is *not* about Uncle Dave. *ahem*

14:47:06 [Morbus]

[off] heh, heh.

14:47:11 [Morbus]

[off] /me waves to Dave.

14:47:14 [Morbus]

[off] bitch.

14:47:34 [Morbus]

[off] you know, i think from now on, i'm gonna try and refer to him as Uncle Dave everywhere

14:47:52 [Morbus]

[off] it'll be one big happy family. my son Aaron, and Uncle Dave

14:48:21 [AaronSw]

[off] he's my uncle, that makes him your brother

14:48:25 [AaronSw]

[off] or inlaw...

14:48:37 [Morbus]

[off] yeah, i got it on with tara.

14:48:55 [AaronSw]

[off] /clear

14:49:00 [Morbus]

[off] heh, heh.

14:49:31 [Morbus]

[off] five flipping characters for offlog. all this wasted bandwidth.

15:00:57 [Ash-w]

[off] Uncle Dave, the weird uncle that always wants "special hugs"

15:01:21 [bitsko]

[off] no, that's Uncle Chester

15:02:12 [Morbus]

[off] Chester? heh, heh.

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15:20:37 [Ash-w]

lol

15:23:23 [pixel]

[off] just be glad you don't have to type [on] to be on log.

15:24:12 [bitsko]

* bitsko headed to Des Moines. tty'all later!

15:25:13 [AaronSw]

have fun

15:27:17 [bitsko]

thx

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15:38:28 [Ash-w]

[on] la la la

15:38:37 [pixel]

hehehe

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15:46:55 [sbp]

welcome back gac

15:47:14 [gac]

network troubles here

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15:51:18 [davb]

AaronSw: did you fix your chump to allow <> in the title/topic? mine barfs in the XSLT to html.

15:51:39 [AaronSw]

dunno

15:51:44 [AaronSw]

give it a try :)

15:53:54 [davb]

for example: http://blogspace.com/swhack/weblog/2002/05/24/

15:55:28 [davb]

could be my XSLT

15:58:21 [AaronSw]

chump outputs this xml: <topic>fly, my monkies, fly! || &lt;redmonk&gt; what&apos;s this about monkey di

15:58:22 [AaronSw]

scrimination in swhack?</topic>

15:59:11 [AaronSw]

my wrists are hurting. this si bad

15:59:14 [davb]

right. mine too. its someone in my xskting to html.

15:59:41 [AaronSw]

ah. probn;y broken xslt

16:01:51 [davb]

AaronSw: are your wrists hurting from typing?

16:01:57 [davb]

well whatever it is, stop doing it

16:01:58 [AaronSw]

i think so

16:02:28 [AaronSw]

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17:27:24 [Morbus]

for some reason, this cracked me up *hard*:

17:27:26 [Morbus]

[[[

17:27:26 [Morbus]

[14:28] <deus_x> Hmm. Perhaps. OH OH! OH! SHIT! TRASH CAN!

17:27:26 [Morbus]

[14:28] <deus_x> Dammit! I'm gzipping the trash can! hah!

17:27:26 [Morbus]

]]]

17:27:57 [AaronSw]

i think context might help

17:28:03 [Morbus]

nope, that was it.

17:28:04 [Morbus]

<G>

17:28:11 [Morbus]

i mean, gzipping the trash can.

17:28:14 [Morbus]

i dunno, maybe i had it coming.

17:28:19 [Morbus]

but i find that hilarious.

17:40:42 [Morbus]

[[[

17:40:42 [Morbus]

[14:41] <DrBacchus> You're sitting on the server?

17:40:43 [Morbus]

[14:41] <iostream> yeah

17:40:43 [Morbus]

[14:41] <Morbus> oh, there's the prolbem.

17:40:43 [Morbus]

[14:41] <Morbus> too much load.

17:40:43 [Morbus]

[14:41] <iostream> yeah

17:40:46 [Morbus]

[14:41] <DrBacchus> be patient. Click slower. Breathe in. Breathe out. Have a cold drink.

17:40:47 [Morbus]

[14:41] <iostream> Morbus: is the windows Xp problem

17:40:49 [Morbus]

[14:41] <iostream> ?

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[14:41] <Morbus> yeah, microsoft doesn't like fat peopel.

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17:50:16 [walloper]

<lilo> Hint: On OPN we encourage a relaxed culture in which channel people don't supervise the users so much. Sometimes this means there will not be a channel staffer on hand to resolve a problem. Please check on #openprojects when you have an issue. Look for someone with a *.staff.opn hostname spoof. We don't set channel policy, and we try to limit interventions, but we're often able to help resolve a problem. Thanks.

17:50:54 [Morbus]

Morbus -> lilo: lilo, ash is insulting you. he says you have a smelly anus. can I get a k-line?

17:52:50 [pixel]

what's a brother gotta do to get a k-line in this place?!

17:53:09 [Morbus]

hey-ohHHHH!

17:53:48 [pixel]

hehe

17:55:50 [gac]

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18:12:06 [Morbus]

AaronSw: just sent you an email concerning a new OS X wrapper.

18:14:09 [pixel]

I am about to open to best cafepress store yet.

18:14:16 [Morbus]

about what?

18:15:06 [pixel]

you'll just have to wait and see! (I'm building the suspense)

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18:17:17 [Morbus]

librarystuff.net

18:17:28 [Morbus]

first non-alpha OPML implementation.

18:17:29 [Morbus]

whoo.

18:18:13 [Morbus]

[[[

18:18:13 [Morbus]

[15:17] <ilo> hm. still no back-to-front printing in osx

18:18:13 [Morbus]

[15:17] <ilo> how sad

18:18:13 [Morbus]

[15:19] <Morbus> turn your printer around.

18:18:13 [Morbus]

]]]

18:18:21 [pixel]

http://www.cafepress.com/got_geek visit!!! purchase!! love it! touch it! caress it!

18:18:35 [sbp]

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18:18:36 [Morbus]

mmm. boxers!

18:18:37 [Morbus]

<G>

18:18:43 [Morbus]

no thongs!

18:18:44 [pixel]

buy stuff before the milk people shut me down!

18:18:46 [Morbus]

kevin want thongs!

18:19:33 [sbp]

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18:20:41 [pixel]

I didn't see thongs as an option, because if i had, I DEFINTIELY would have put them on there!

18:20:47 [Morbus]

good boy.

18:20:49 [Morbus]

rowr.

18:21:23 [pixel]

ok, now how do you think I get THAT on daypop?

18:22:09 [Morbus]

heh, heh.

18:22:13 [Morbus]

um...

18:22:20 [Morbus]

i guess i could interview you ;)

18:22:27 [sbp]

oh, man, I was just about to say that!

18:22:31 [pixel]

I can add the following: Frisbee, licese plate frame, tank top, ladies tank top, golf shirt, baseball jersey, long sleve t-shirt, stainless steel travel mug, frosted mug (adding!), large mug, mug, insulated cooler bag, tote bag.

18:22:35 [Morbus]

* Morbus ^5's sbp.

18:22:40 [sbp]

whoo!

18:22:44 [pixel]

apparently sbp is the interview man, eh?

18:22:58 [sbp]

we should just take it in turns to interview one another

18:23:09 [Morbus]

we'll be the exclusives.

18:23:10 [sbp]

build up some sort of media empire

18:23:14 [sbp]

heh, heh

18:23:26 [sbp]

"The Exclusives" [cue 60's intro music]

18:23:32 [Morbus]

in, this sbp's 100th interview with Morbus, we learn of his dietary habits.

18:23:46 [sbp]

Q: So, you really used to make sandwiches?

18:23:53 [sbp]

Q: Did you ever eat them?

18:24:04 [pixel]

HAHAHAH

18:24:15 [AaronSw]

we can be the next larry king live

18:24:36 [pixel]

daypop bombing.

18:24:49 [AaronSw]

we can get people to tell silly stories and then do bad excerpts of them

18:24:50 [Morbus]

hehe.

18:25:00 [Morbus]

and i'll lean forward a lot.

18:25:00 [sbp]

combine the "badump-chish!" from Letterman with Conan O'Brian's dancing, and what do you get? Swhack!

18:25:04 [Morbus]

so people can see my man=boobs.

18:25:18 [AaronSw]

AaronSw has changed the topic to: <sbp> combine the "badump-chish!" from Letterman with Conan O'Brian's dancing, and what do you get? Swhack!

18:25:22 [pixel]

ok. everyone link to my store!!!

18:25:22 [sbp]

man=boobs??! stick that in your inference engine and run it

18:25:26 [sbp]

heh, heh

18:25:58 [pixel]

that's a great word.

18:26:33 [sbp]

which one? that?

18:26:48 [Morbus]

maybe the apostraphe turns him on.

18:27:02 [sbp]

''''''''''''''''

18:27:15 [Morbus]

oh god, sean.

18:27:21 [Morbus]

do me some more, you english major.

18:27:26 [Morbus]

and I mean major. wink.

18:27:27 [sbp]

lol!

18:27:34 [pixel]

heheheh

18:27:47 [pixel]

added beer mug, and the stainless steel mug.

18:29:31 [pixel]

added the large mug, the regular mug, and the ladies tank top.

18:31:07 [pixel]

insulated bag, frisbee, and golf shirt.

18:32:42 [pixel]

they don't have thongs.

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18:37:09 [pixel]

blog this: http://www.cafepress.com/got_geek !!!!!!

18:37:10 [lilo]

[GlobalNotice] Hi all. If you haven't had a chance, please take a look at http://somegeek.org/status.html (updated today). The site will be pretty overloaded but persist if you can. Thanks.

18:37:31 [sbp]

you blog it

18:37:36 [pixel]

I did!

18:37:37 [AaronSw]

i am seriously tempted to kick some people here

18:37:41 [pixel]

(sorry)

18:37:58 [sbp]

* sbp hides under a table

18:38:14 [AaronSw]

just testing

18:38:23 [AaronSw]

...THIS TIME

18:38:24 [pixel]

:) it works!

18:38:36 [pixel]

it won't ever happen again! I promise!!!

18:42:29 [AaronSw]

:-)

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18:56:36 [Ash-w]

lol

18:56:45 [Ash-w]

PLZ AARONSW DO NOT UES TEH KICK!@%121

18:57:07 [AaronSw]

/kick Ash-w

18:57:12 [Ash-w]

ehehe

18:57:20 [Ash-w]

watch out AaronSw, i'll ban you from #alpine

18:57:20 [Ash-w]

8g*

18:57:22 [Ash-w]

er

18:57:23 [Ash-w]

*g*

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18:57:30 [Ash-w]

heh

18:57:32 [Ash-w]

* Ash-w chuckles

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19:05:27 [Morbus]

WHoOo! TOP news on SF: http://sourceforge.net/

19:09:44 [AaronSw]

Morbus, that's only because you're logged in as you

19:09:56 [Morbus]

no, i'm not logged in.

19:10:00 [Morbus]

and rik told me about it.

19:10:02 [Morbus]

bitch.

19:10:04 [AaronSw]

heh

19:10:05 [Morbus]

stop playing fucknuts.

19:10:10 [Morbus]

:)

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19:13:27 [sbp]

* sbp updates http://infomesh.net/2002/swhackquot/ a little

19:13:57 [AaronSw]

lol: 2002-05-18 21:34:37 <bijan> Is "anal retentive" hyphanated?

19:14:11 [Morbus]

hehehe

19:14:48 [Morbus]

bwaha. you added the penis stroking.

19:15:26 [AaronSw]

why'd you add the bit about jill and redmonk saying thx?

19:15:30 [AaronSw]

it seems sorta random

19:16:07 [sbp]

that was for the "i bet you're wearing white cotton knickers" bit

19:16:19 [AaronSw]

can't you trim it?

19:16:27 [sbp]

O.K.

19:16:40 [Morbus]

mMm. cotton knickers.

19:16:43 [Morbus]

quick, we need to say something funny.

19:16:49 [Morbus]

so we can have a quote about us quoting the quote page

19:17:11 [quasi]

can I quote you on that?

19:17:35 [AaronSw]

* AaronSw submits to the quote page

19:17:57 [Morbus]

you're quoting what to where?

19:18:25 [AaronSw]

heh: http://www.geekissues.com/quotes/?search=aaron

19:19:10 [AaronSw]

lol: http://www.geekissues.com/quotes/?4791

19:19:15 [AaronSw]

Aaron is on the same ISP as sbp

19:19:45 [sbp]

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19:20:57 [AaronSw]

Aaron is on the same ISP as sbp

19:21:03 [AaronSw]

in http://www.geekissues.com/quotes/?4791

19:21:32 [sbp]

oh, same one

19:21:34 [sbp]

man, dp is really crapping out a lot lately

19:21:50 [AaronSw]

yeah, wesn't sure if you caught it

19:21:51 [Ash-w]

dp

19:21:54 [Ash-w]

dp == dr pepper

19:21:54 [AaronSw]

i wonder why you have such bad luck

19:21:58 [AaronSw]

never happens to me

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19:22:25 [AaronSw]

(msg: try #softdrink)

19:22:29 [Ash-w]

heh

19:22:52 [AaronSw]

this could become a running gag, like the i-didn't-do-it kid

19:23:28 [AaronSw]

sbp, does dp give nay error when it dies?

19:25:47 [sbp]

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19:26:06 [AaronSw]

hm

19:29:17 [sbp]

* sbp adds two more

19:29:17 [sbp]

well, that was good

19:29:25 [AaronSw]

two more whats?

19:29:32 [sbp]

quotes

19:30:31 [sbp]

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19:30:41 [AaronSw]

oops, sorry

19:33:05 [sbp]

heh. damnit

19:33:10 [AaronSw]

what?

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19:35:57 [AaronSw]

sbp, could you disconnect for a second?

19:36:09 [AaronSw]

oh, wait

19:36:44 [sbp]

everytime you do that, you make me join #infoanarchy!

19:36:46 [sbp]

heh, I'm going to submit this one to the database, I think:-

19:36:48 [sbp]

2002-04-30 19:49:14 <AaronSw> To prevent this day from getting worse, I'll just read ERROR as GOOD THING

19:36:52 [sbp]

oh, man. in the last 10 minutes or so I've been disconnected via. you or my ISP like 30 times

19:37:05 [sbp]

I mean, I only just came back on about 30 seconds ago

19:37:07 [AaronSw]

lol

19:37:13 [AaronSw]

sorry

19:37:40 [AaronSw]

* AaronSw removes infoanarchy and plex from the config

19:37:45 [AaronSw]

now it's: join "#rdfig, #dotgnu, #sbp, #semplesh, #swhack, #validator"

19:38:02 [sbp]

eeeexcellent

19:38:12 [AaronSw]

is that right?

19:38:15 [sbp]

yep. thanks

19:38:38 [AaronSw]

i have this little problem... your dirc instance won't die

19:38:50 [sbp]

you call that a problem?

19:38:51 [AaronSw]

can i try killing it again?

19:38:59 [AaronSw]

well, i'm trying to get it to log

19:39:00 [sbp]

if you must :-)

19:39:03 [AaronSw]

so i can figure out why it keeps dying

19:39:07 [sbp]

get it to log what? oh, right

19:39:07 [AaronSw]

see you in a bit

19:39:10 [sbp]

O.K.

19:39:20 [AaronSw]

hm. you're supposed to be gone

19:39:51 [sbp]

heh, heh

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19:40:24 [AaronSw]

sorry about all this

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19:42:37 [Morbus]

[[[

19:42:38 [Morbus]

[16:43] <Ross_> Any1 know any good servers with an #apache channel?

19:42:38 [Morbus]

[16:43] <Morbus> localhost.localdomain i heard was decent./

19:42:38 [Morbus]

]]]

19:53:18 [AaronSw]

i like zakim's new feature: pls pick a victim (i.e. scribe)

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20:20:48 [AaronSw]

wkearney in #sbp

20:20:55 [AaronSw]

tell all interview next

20:21:24 [sbp]

Swhackdown! Kearney vs. Morbus on pay-per-view #swhack

20:21:35 [Morbus]

:)

20:22:20 [AaronSw]

<wkearney99> oooo, he's pulling off winer's leg and now he's beating him with it....

20:22:44 [sbp]

heh, heh

20:58:13 [AaronSw]

whoo! the annoying identd timeout is gone

20:59:15 [AaronSw]

i wonder if its xuz i'm in the dm

20:59:16 [AaronSw]

z

21:07:51 [sbp]

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21:41:59 [AaronSw]

wow, asuffield is incredibly annoying and rude

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21:53:31 [Ash-w]

AaronSw: You would expect anything less from the loser that made the mods for OPN/

21:53:33 [Ash-w]

?

21:54:06 [AaronSw]

Well, some people are smart and rude. Some are stupid and nice. But it's rare to be stupid and rude.

21:54:29 [AaronSw]

Actually, maybe it's not.

21:59:36 [Ash-w]

Heh.

21:59:44 [Ash-w]

Obviously you haven't been in #openprojects for long enough

21:59:44 [Ash-w]

ehehehehe

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22:00:12 [Ash-w]

MORBUS IFF

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22:12:57 [MorbusIff]

http://bmugwest.com/

22:14:46 [MorbusIff]

off to eat chicken...

22:14:48 [MorbusIff]

I'm sailing away. Set an open course for the virgin sea...

22:14:54 [sbp]

oh, dude... no!!!

22:14:54 [sbp]

For I've got to be free, free to face the life that's ahead of me

22:15:00 [sbp]

On board I'm the captain, so climb aboard

22:15:05 [sbp]

We'll search for tomorrow on every shore

22:15:09 [sbp]

And I'll try, oh lord, I'll try to carry on

22:15:13 [sbp]

Maymaynemay Maymaynemay Maymaynemay Maymaynemay

22:15:19 [sbp]

A gathering of angels appeared above our heads

22:15:23 [sbp]

They sang to us this song of hope

22:15:27 [sbp]

And this is what they said

22:15:32 [MorbusIff]

i set off a sbp bomb

22:15:33 [sbp]

Come sail away, come sail away, come sail away with me... lads

22:15:37 [sbp]

Come sail away, come sail away, come sail away with me

22:15:41 [sbp]

I thought that they were angels, but to my surprise

22:15:45 [sbp]

We climbed about their starship and headed for the skies

22:15:52 [sbp]

Come sail away, come sail away, come sail away with me... lads

22:15:58 [sbp]

Come sail away, come sail away, come sail away with me... lads

22:16:20 [AaronSw]

* AaronSw does the working algorithm dance

22:20:46 [sbp]

pff, that's just a rip off of the hustle

22:30:32 [MorbusIff]

do the hustle!

22:30:36 [MorbusIff]

do do doooo dod od doo

22:32:09 [MorbusIff]

[[[

22:32:09 [MorbusIff]

[7:32] <chris> where is the apache src folder located

22:32:09 [MorbusIff]

[7:32] <MorbusIff> in the cvs at apache.org

22:32:09 [MorbusIff]

[7:32] <chris> thx

22:32:10 [MorbusIff]

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22:32:10 [MorbusIff]

[7:32] <MorbusIff> heh, heh. UHhh.

22:32:12 [MorbusIff]

[7:33] <MorbusIff> well, jeez, i was sorta being humourous.

22:32:14 [MorbusIff]

]]]

22:32:29 [sbp]

heh, heh

22:35:41 [AaronSw]

you're totally ruining this irc network

22:35:47 [AaronSw]

:-)

22:35:59 [MorbusIff]

lol.

22:36:02 [MorbusIff]

thank you!

22:36:03 [MorbusIff]

:)

22:38:02 [MorbusIff]

AaronSw, you have only yourself to blame.

22:38:18 [MorbusIff]

if you didn't have it on your website when we were talking about sYP, i'd never know of it.

22:38:19 [AaronSw]

why?

22:38:23 [AaronSw]

yeah

22:38:31 [AaronSw]

i think i'll kill myself now

22:38:50 [MorbusIff]

they're gonna hang you :)

22:39:01 [MorbusIff]

you're gonna die saying "why did i answer his email?!"

22:39:06 [sbp]

Aaron Swartz's big regrets list: * introduced Morbus to OPN * introduced sbp to RegExp...

22:40:03 [MorbusIff]

heh, heh

22:40:21 [MorbusIff]

Morbus Iff's big regrets list: never getting that threesome with sbp and jillzilla

22:41:07 [MorbusIff]

crap. its nearly 8.

22:41:10 [MorbusIff]

i have to do laundry.

22:41:24 [MorbusIff]

they call me a working man.

22:41:37 [MorbusIff]

watch my geek belly glisten with sweat as I lift my carcass from my chair.

22:41:54 [sbp]

bwahahaha @ the whole lot

22:42:19 [sbp]

wow, the scrollback has a funny texture to it

22:42:30 [sbp]

it's like a few pretty long lines, and then two short ones

22:42:39 [sbp]

so this next line is bound to be fairly long...

22:42:42 [sbp]

and then!

22:42:44 [sbp]

short ones

22:42:55 [sbp]

like funny little islands of text. pretty cool, huh?

22:43:27 [sbp]

actually, the wrapping accounts for some of the breaks

22:44:14 [MorbusIff]

i find myself deliberatily hard breaking my emails to create even lines and so forth

22:44:25 [MorbusIff]

it drives me nuts when yahoo fucks up my indents too

22:44:40 [sbp]

heh, I like making little patterns too

22:44:54 [MorbusIff]

:)

22:45:05 [sbp]

or having artificial justification. that's really difficult, sometimes

22:50:11 [AaronSw]

i think we have a winner

22:50:50 [sbp]

for what?

22:51:52 [MorbusIff]

fucking giant bugs.

22:52:07 [MorbusIff]

i can see the damn things moving in my peripheral, then I look, and they're gone

22:52:10 [sbp]

that must have been some context

22:52:16 [sbp]

s/x/s/

22:52:36 [sbp]

Hmm... have you had any history of paranoid delusions in the past?

22:53:00 [MorbusIff]

i'm insanely paranoid and insecure, yes.

22:53:03 [MorbusIff]

when it comes to real life.

22:53:32 [sbp]

of course, just because you're paranoid, it doesn't mean that they're not out to... oh, everyone's heard that crap saying

22:53:46 [MorbusIff]

yeah, that wasn't even ubercool.

22:53:56 [MorbusIff]

neither is "i've seen them to"

22:54:05 [MorbusIff]

what would be cool is if you said "i sent them".

22:54:06 [MorbusIff]

that'd be alright

22:54:10 [sbp]

heh, heh

22:54:18 [sbp]

I sent them to (get this) bug you! bwahaha!

22:54:20 [AaronSw]

do you really see bugs, Morbus?

22:54:35 [MorbusIff]

i see things in my peripheral, yes. and i literally jerk my hand to look at them.

22:54:38 [MorbusIff]

but i never see anything

22:54:46 [MorbusIff]

s/hand/head/

22:54:47 [sbp]

your... um... hand?

22:54:55 [sbp]

ah

22:55:05 [sbp]

it might be floaters

22:55:08 [AaronSw]

garden path syndrome

22:55:12 [AaronSw]

yeah, i had floaters for a while

22:55:29 [MorbusIff]

gps? what's that?

22:55:46 [AaronSw]

it's what caused you to say hand instead of head

22:56:03 [AaronSw]

when you start with a common bit of text, your mind does a kind of autocomplete

22:56:16 [MorbusIff]

ah, yah, i do that flipping all the thyme.

22:56:21 [MorbusIff]

drives me cashews.

22:56:21 [sbp]

I think it's reasonable to see things like shadows moving in your peripheral vision and mistake them for other things

22:56:24 [sbp]

yeah, me two

22:56:39 [MorbusIff]

sbp: but like, two or three times a day?

22:56:40 [AaronSw]

geez, this isn't about homonyms

22:56:49 [MorbusIff]

heh, heh.

22:56:54 [MorbusIff]

AaronSw's getting all scholarly.

22:56:57 [sbp]

what are we talking about? peripherals, or GNS

22:57:05 [sbp]

er... SPG

22:57:07 [sbp]

oh, fuck it

22:57:10 [MorbusIff]

lol

22:57:26 [sbp]

heh, the second attempt was worse than the first

22:57:32 [MorbusIff]

'far worse.

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22:57:47 [sbp]

well, at least I got the right characters

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22:58:29 [AaronSw]

timbl says type attributes are bad practice

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22:58:34 [MorbusIff]

* MorbusIff finishes Paul Pope 100% 1 of 5.

22:59:16 [sbp]

ouch:-

22:59:16 [sbp]

$ grep "<sbp>.*fuck" * | wc -l

22:59:16 [sbp]

154

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23:01:49 [sbp]

-i reveals ten more hiding away

23:02:27 [AaronSw]

all of mine are quotes

23:03:33 [sbp]

yep, I can confirm that

23:03:43 [AaronSw]

@ http://www.pgc.com/pgc/home-stuff/papers-archive/think-w-diag/psych-rea-lisp.html

23:03:52 [chumpy]

A: Workshop on the Psychological Reality of Lisp from AaronSw

23:04:06 [sbp]

Morbus ranks in second with 117

23:04:25 [MorbusIff]

i bet i win on bitch

23:04:32 [sbp]

although per line he'd probably have a hihger percentage than me. therefore, I can blame his influence

23:04:41 [sbp]

$ grep -i "<Morbus[^>]*>.*bitch" * | wc -l

23:04:42 [sbp]

57

23:04:49 [MorbusIff]

jeez, that's pathetic,

23:04:52 [sbp]

$ grep -i "<sbp>.*bitch" * | wc -l

23:04:53 [sbp]

17

23:04:55 [sbp]

yep, I agree

23:05:07 [AaronSw]

A::"For example, a subject would be asked to perform a rplaca or rplacd which would result in a circular list. When asked to say what the list was, subjects would go into an infinite loop, which, in one extreme case, could only be halted by a blow from the experimenter. Regrettably, the subject was hospitalized for two days, and the University's Human Experimental Subjects Review Board terminated the experiments before adequate data could be generated."

23:05:10 [chumpy]

commented item A

23:05:34 [sbp]

we'll both have to start calling each other bitches from now on, alright bitch?

23:06:15 [MorbusIff]

don't tell me what do.

23:06:20 [MorbusIff]

indignant bitch.

23:06:24 [MorbusIff]

look at all I do for you.

23:06:27 [MorbusIff]

and this is how you treat mel

23:06:31 [MorbusIff]

by ordering me around.

23:06:31 [sbp]

who's mel?

23:06:31 [MorbusIff]

pff.

23:06:40 [MorbusIff]

irc.capnasty.org#scriba

23:12:02 [AaronSw]

wtf is that?

23:12:14 [MorbusIff]

a horribly slaughtered attempt.

23:12:19 [MorbusIff]

just move along.

23:12:23 [MorbusIff]

i'm already embarassed

23:12:44 [AaronSw]

attempt at what?

23:13:46 [MorbusIff]

* MorbusIff waves Aaron past.

23:16:27 [AaronSw]

lol!

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23:16:47 [AaronSw]

man, that is way too funny

23:16:54 [AaronSw]

<Morbus> ./msg sbp Mel's pretty cute. Nice tits.

23:16:55 [AaronSw]

<Morbus> ack!

23:16:55 [AaronSw]

<Morbus> godfucking dammit!:?:

23:16:55 [AaronSw]

<Morbus> fuckkdfj

23:16:55 [AaronSw]

<Morbus> stupid motherufcking irc program

23:16:56 [AaronSw]

<Mel> kevin, dear. double click on 'sbp'

23:16:57 [AaronSw]

<Mel> and thank you

23:17:04 [AaronSw]

hey wmf

23:17:15 [MorbusIff]

man, i didn't even see you come in.

23:17:16 [wmf]

heh

23:17:19 [MorbusIff]

btw, that was a setup.

23:17:20 [MorbusIff]

i'm not that dumb

23:17:20 [wmf]

who's Mel?

23:17:47 [AaronSw]

Melissa DeWilde

23:19:33 [sbp]

this is a Morbus prime moment

23:19:55 [AaronSw]

What happened to normal Morbus?

23:19:59 [MorbusIff]

heh. thanks...

23:20:24 [AaronSw]

versus Morbus prime, I mean

23:20:34 [MorbusIff]

Morbus Prime ran off with SbpScream

23:23:15 [wmf]

* wmf finds no reason to care about Melissa DeWilde, goes back to blogrolling

23:23:54 [MorbusIff]

wmf: make sure to include xml urls.

23:23:56 [MorbusIff]

or even an opml.

23:24:01 [MorbusIff]

i'd love to mass import your reading list.

23:24:11 [wmf]

sorry, I don't care

23:24:16 [MorbusIff]

heh, heh.

23:25:12 [AaronSw]

wmf is in a bad mood... you get fired too?

23:25:21 [wmf]

nah

23:25:38 [wmf]

I'm not in a bad mood, just a... subomptimal one

23:26:01 [AaronSw]

attacked? dismembered? dumped?

23:26:13 [AaronSw]

bitten? swallowed?

23:26:14 [AaronSw]

gotta run

23:26:19 [wmf]

more like abused

23:26:19 [AaronSw]

cya next week

23:26:43 [wmf]

all right! now we can make fun of AaronSw behind his back all weekend :-)

23:28:37 [sbp]

c'ya Aaron

23:28:47 [sbp]

wmf: just for a day, I think

23:29:11 [sbp]

unless he's going underground or something

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