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Let us know what you think!' 02:17:40 that quickdownload thing is cool, tho it crashed my browser 02:18:23 Eric: "The last 2 people to sign up will be ones responsible for taking notes" 02:18:23 DanC: Ooh! that's a GREAT idea! I think I'll try it in WebOnt... 02:19:02 wow, they have an office 02:19:05 do they make money? 02:20:32 that's a big office for two people 02:21:13 tansaku_xr has quit ("http://www.neurogrid.net or nothing at all") 02:38:22 AaronSw_ has quit (Remote closed the connection) 02:38:37 heh, it's easier to crash mozilla than to quit out of it 02:51:39 redmonk (~steve@ip68-2-102-26.ph.ph.cox.net) has joined #swhack 02:51:46 hello 02:57:50 [off] testing 123 03:01:05 redmonk has quit ("cya") 03:12:35 hi 03:12:41 hey AaronSw 03:13:25 I'm having weird problems. 03:13:27 My network connection is flaking out... 03:13:33 it still won't let me get 10.1.5 03:13:52 bummer 03:15:09 hmm, the retail eMac is (in some cases) cheaper than the edu version 03:16:47 hi all, another round of bot cleanup in progress, please email support@openprojects.net if you are klined by mistake. we'll try to be careful. 03:18:00 Wes' emails to McCusker are funny. 03:18:13 in what way? 03:18:54 (besides the obvious jokes) 03:20:11 oh geez, there's a Chimera-like theme for Mozilla 03:20:13 role reversal I guess. "I've analyzed your network settings" makes you sound like some engineer on the Star Trek Enterprise 03:21:42 Hm, I'm gonna try and get some sleep. nite. 03:32:15 GabeW (~Gabe@12-236-104-95.client.attbi.com) has joined #swhack 04:42:21 wmf has quit ("BitchX: sanitized for your protection") 04:44:08 deus_x has quit (Remote closed the connection) 05:01:14 GabeW has quit ("Client Exiting") 06:21:10 gordo (~gordo@213.78.103.79) has joined #swhack 06:24:25 morning all 07:01:53 thelsdj has quit (zahn.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net) 07:01:53 oierw has quit (zahn.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net) 07:01:53 Ash has quit (zahn.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net) 07:01:53 gordo has quit (zahn.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net) 07:01:53 walloper has quit (zahn.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net) 07:01:53 loggy has quit (zahn.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net) 07:01:53 AaronSw has quit (zahn.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net) 07:01:53 quasi has quit (zahn.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net) 07:01:53 sbp has quit (zahn.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net) 07:01:53 icepick has quit (zahn.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net) 07:01:53 Ash-w has quit (zahn.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net) 07:01:53 Acapnotic has quit (zahn.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net) 07:01:53 xena has quit (zahn.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net) 07:01:53 deltab has quit (zahn.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net) 07:01:53 DeSharq has quit (zahn.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net) 07:01:53 tav`` has quit (zahn.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net) 07:02:39 gordo (~gordo@213.78.103.79) has joined #swhack 07:02:39 tav`` (~tav@host217-36-1-46.in-addr.btopenworld.com) has joined #swhack 07:02:39 Ash-w (~aaron@166.70.121.30) has joined #swhack 07:02:39 thelsdj (~adam@p203.tc3.rnktel.net) has joined #swhack 07:02:39 oierw (~mathew@pcp994425pcs.goosck01.sc.comcast.net) has joined #swhack 07:02:39 Ash (~amathews@166.70.45.199) has joined #swhack 07:02:39 walloper (~nobody@63.149.73.20) has joined #swhack 07:02:39 loggy (~swhack-lo@63.149.73.20) has joined #swhack 07:02:39 quasi (~toftum@tigerdyr.wheel.dk) has joined #swhack 07:02:39 AaronSw (~Snak@63.149.73.20) has joined #swhack 07:02:39 sbp (~sean@63.149.73.20) has joined #swhack 07:02:39 icepick (~myers@va-charlottesville4a-162.chvlva.adelphia.net) has joined #swhack 07:02:39 Acapnotic (~kevin@65.100.38.69) has joined #swhack 07:02:39 xena (~xena@216.234.235.21) has joined #swhack 07:02:39 deltab (~deltab@216.234.235.21) has joined #swhack 07:02:39 DeSharq (~markdshar@winnipeg.westgroup.com) has joined #swhack 08:11:43 tansaku_xr (~sam@n144-001.tokyu-net.catv.ne.jp) has joined #swhack 09:23:20 gordo has quit ("Client Exiting") 10:40:29 pixel (~pixel@ns.bhsi.com) has joined #swhack 11:48:25 adam_ (~adam@p149.tc3.rnktel.net) has joined #swhack 11:52:23 Morbus (~morbus@morbus.totalnetnh.net) has joined #swhack 12:04:34 thelsdj has quit (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 12:29:30 tav`` has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 13:27:02 deus_x (~deus_x@adsl-65-42-33-202.dsl.sfldmi.ameritech.net) has joined #swhack 13:29:21 deus_x has quit (Client Quit) 13:32:22 deus_x (~deus_x@adsl-65-42-33-202.dsl.sfldmi.ameritech.net) has joined #swhack 13:49:16 redmonk (~steve@63.149.73.20) has joined #swhack 13:49:27 *BAMPH* 13:49:37 * redmonk appears 13:50:02 yoyoyoyo 13:51:16 hey pix 13:51:18 sup 13:52:59 not much. 14:00:13 * sbp waves 14:16:32 heh. 14:16:34 [[[ 14:16:34 The government has installed BLACK BOXES into ISPs to watch your 14:16:34 Internet surfing. 14:16:35 ]]] 14:16:41 i am part of the conspiracy, dear spammer. 14:16:44 you have been reported. 14:17:50 DeSharq has quit () 14:45:19 Ongoing mop-up of clonebot nets in process. This is the part where an accidental kline of a normal user is an occasional possibility. If you notice someone disappearing who clearly shouldn't, or you are subsequently klined for unclear or invalid reasons, please email support@openprojects.net .... thanks. 14:46:04 Ash has changed the topic to: STOP KLIENING ME LIELO!!!111@! 14:47:44 pixel has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 14:47:51 ggez, Dave is really bashing Dan Gillmor 14:47:53 oh come on! can't you p[ick a mroe crsatinve topic? 14:47:57 heh, heh 14:48:11 AaronSw has changed the topic to: I HAV3 NO CEARTIVITEEE!!!11@! 14:48:37 Dave has concluded that Dan Gillmor is not a journalist, apparently. 14:50:17 Dave: "I can't think of a professional journal, with the exception of the Register (see below) that I trust at this level. Sad situation." 14:51:44 ooh, he even says it at the bottom! 14:51:49 he admits who Mr. X is! 14:53:11 bitsko (~KenMacLeo@66.187.196.132) has joined #swhack 14:53:32 * bitsko is confused by the direction the HTML encoding in RSS discussion is headed... 14:54:36 first, the red herring of CDATA. I wish people would just "get it" that CDATA or not is simply irrelevant (and shame on Edd for mentioning it) 14:54:52 yeah. 14:56:06 then encoding... no question some people have language, charset, and encoding mixed up. we need a glossary ;) 14:56:25 s/then encoding/then charsets/ 14:56:44 heh, heh. 14:56:53 i've mixed up char/encoding myself at times. 14:57:13 character set... all I can say is: argh! 14:57:21 .google "Character Set considered harmful" 14:57:22 the HTML thing is just a "make a decision dammit. wait a minute, I thought we made a decision, dammit; now what the hell are you talking about?" 14:57:22 "Character Set considered harmful": http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/html-spec/charset-harmful.html 14:58:06 pixel (~pixel@ns.bhsi.com) has joined #swhack 14:59:06 heh, heh. 14:59:10 where do you stand on that? 14:59:14 the html? 15:01:07 if nothing else, we need to have feeds be consistent in their use. no question that feeds are already using HTML. 15:02:29 in 1.0, I think we should either allow XHTML in content, or create elements specifically to support XHTML in content (which is really already mod_content) 15:02:52 concernign xhtml in content: 15:03:04 i dunno about others, but that'd require a rewrite of XML::RSS. 15:03:09 and it'd break most XML::Simple parsers. 15:03:10 in 0.9x, I think the given is that we already get HTML, so let's figure out what the encoding is and be done with it. 15:04:14 XIC -- that's kinda tough. rdf:literal encoding has always been an option 15:04:29 rdfs:Literal 15:04:43 thx ;) 15:05:34 actually rdf:parseType="Literal" is the syntax sugar used to supply that datatype 15:06:09 hmm, and it's not even Friday yet ;) 15:06:31 you're correct, of course ;) 15:08:05 how does this AP get 22mbps? http://www.computers4sure.com/product.asp?productid=1177367 15:09:04 [off] reasons why N3 beats the fuck out of XML RDF #548095: to denote a literal in XML RDF, you have to put a rdf:parseType="Literal" attribute on the surrounding element. In N3, you put it in quote marks: "". 15:09:05 compression? 15:09:23 200% compression? 15:09:39 seems sorta weird... it'd need new client software, no? 15:09:46 I would think. 15:10:06 at the very least, if it's a redone 802.11b spec, you'll need thier cards. 15:10:31 http://www.unsanity.com/download.php?product=silk 15:10:35 OMG 15:10:39 dual channel? 15:10:48 quartz font rendering in carbon apps 15:10:49 mozilla looks 15:10:57 [off] FUCKING AWESOME 15:11:00 really cool 15:11:06 lol 15:11:45 http://www.d-link.com/products/DigitalHome/Wireless/11b+/11b+wireless.asp 15:11:55 I think you have to have thier cards to get 22 out of it. 15:11:57 does N3 support the Pyism of """blah blah blah"""? 15:12:33 I'll stick with my 100MB switch =) 15:13:09 bitsko, yes 15:13:34 it doesn't support single quotes, though 15:13:42 for XiC, that's one area where the conformance suite will help. toolkits should not be barfing on literals 15:15:44 hmm, re N3, there's a difference between rdfs:parseType="Literal" and a string. I presume quoting in N3 means "string", not specifically PCDATA XML 15:16:21 that's true 15:16:57 although I suspect one can introduce xml:infoset as a property linking a string literal to the infoset that you get when you parse it as XML 15:21:10 I wonder if I should tell you all 15:21:14 ... 15:21:31 nah. we don't want to hear anything interesting or new... 15:21:36 alright 15:22:14 everybody else must be asleep! 15:23:01 please tell us. I'm sure that some are almost exploding with anticipation 15:23:32 so unless you want assorted bot/human parts all over the floor of swhack... 15:24:03 well, i was just going to note that logster's comment syntax is # 15:24:09 but loggy's is [off] 15:24:11 that is all 15:24:31 hehe 15:25:05 oh... logster's back 15:25:15 so it's actually impossible to be off-log? well, that's not good 15:25:55 nor:- 15:25:58 [off] # blargh 15:26:08 you'll have to use both 15:26:13 [off] blargh 15:26:18 that should cover you 15:26:19 um... that's not going to work now, is it 15:26:40 Heh, no, not really. 15:26:42 There's always 15:26:42 hehehehe 15:26:57 heh 15:27:22 redmonk has quit ("cya") 15:27:43 redmonk (~steve@63.149.73.20) has joined #swhack 15:27:45 I guess it's time to move things over to vorpal. 15:27:58 AaronSw: did you note Bill Seitz wondering if the current SemPlesh API is the "perfect" API you envisioned once? 15:28:05 yes 15:28:11 he emailed me... 15:28:38 ah. I think he's emailing everyone 15:28:56 .google "Bill Seitz" 15:29:24 did he email you too, bitsko? 15:29:33 or did i miss an HTP post? 15:29:36 "Bill Seitz": http://webseitz.editthispage.com/ 15:32:13 "Bill Seitz": http://webseitz.editthispage.com/ 15:32:21 heh. "Here's a guy who looks like Osama and posts pictures of himself brushing his teeth...Get a life!" 15:38:48 deus_x has quit ("leaving") 15:39:07 oierw has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 15:48:31 sbp has changed the topic to: Wanted: one off-log string for an IRC channel. Must be short, and easy to type 15:51:09 we'll have to say "dickety" 16:11:19 ooh, gonna get me a replacement computer 16:19:28 o! 16:19:34 ofor the offlog. 16:19:38 ophelia would be proud 16:19:57 just got a report that the new ampheta was "30X fasster" 16:23:42 ooh, tivo backdoor codes 16:24:06 for 2.5.2? 16:24:40 the backdoor enabler for 2.5 (B D 2 5) doesn't seem to work in 2.5.2 16:25:10 BTW, in the next few weekends sometime I'll be installing an additional 40GB drive in my tivo. 16:30:45 That enabler worked for me, but some of the secret codes didn't. 16:30:58 It went all "BACKDOORS ENABLED!!!!" 16:31:09 but i couldn't get the commercial skip thing working 16:33:59 once I got the upgrade from 2..5.0 to 2.5.2 the backdoors stopped working. 16:34:51 AaronSw: commercial skip? 16:34:56 i think i need to report you. 16:35:02 heh 16:35:04 unless you're going to the bathroom, you can't skip commercials. 16:35:10 and you can't spend a long time in the bathroom either. 16:35:17 shit, and get outta there. i have new cars to move. 16:35:22 that's why we have pause on the ticvo. 16:35:33 do you have a standalone or directv/tivo? 16:35:47 a standalone. 16:35:50 i don't pay for cable. 16:35:58 it uh... magically works. 16:36:29 not you dopey. aaron. 16:36:38 well, scuse me, sleazy 16:36:54 heh, Morbus is a cable thief AND commercial skipper 16:37:00 pixel, i have a standalone 16:37:02 heh, heh. 16:37:16 hehe 16:40:29 Ugh, Zooko lost a disk. 16:48:10 Ooh, BenSw came home with a guitar. 16:48:15 He's taking lessons, apparently. 16:48:36 string or electric? 16:49:10 s/string/acoustic/ 16:49:24 acoustic 16:51:53 :) 16:53:00 And Noah got a bigger guitar. 16:53:08 I'm supposed to take piano lessons apparently. 16:54:17 forming a band? 16:55:13 that'll be one weird band 16:56:12 eheh 16:56:17 I've heard of weirder. 16:56:17 don't you want to learn the piano? 16:56:27 Yeah. 16:56:41 yeah you do, or yeah you don't? 16:56:50 i do 16:57:12 you do don't, or do do? 16:58:09 drat, I almost got him to say do do 16:58:51 Gotta run 16:58:52 heheh' 17:21:57 jillium (~jill@adsl-63-196-0-35.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net) has joined #swhack 17:22:19 What's wrong with # as an off-log string? 17:22:33 don't question the dictator. 17:23:10 how about ^ for off log. makes it feel like you're shoving the line up, up and away. 17:23:28 Acceptable, but I still prefer #. 17:23:45 Because I type # at the beginnings of lines a lot, so it feels very natural. And I don't see any reason to change it. 17:24:34 I know. 17:24:41 * jillium nods. 17:24:47 * jillium preaches to the choir. 17:24:53 ^ doesn't work for me. 17:24:57 my fingers don't stretch that far. 17:25:14 maybe // ? javascript style one-line comment? 17:25:23 you're very good at one handed things. 17:25:24 think of all that bandwidth wasted! 17:25:29 i am! i'm like the fucking master. 17:25:33 HAHAHAHA 17:25:36 except that / at the beginning of the line is usually an irc command. 17:25:41 try. 17:25:44 try = true. 17:25:46 oops. 17:25:53 one hand master! Hee 17:25:54 i still think the letter o should be it. 17:25:55 I think # is perfect. 17:25:59 o? 17:26:02 oshut the hell up. 17:26:07 Yes, # is perfect. 17:26:10 how about: ***&^&%* at the beginning? 17:26:18 that won't ever be duplicated. 17:26:19 O Morbus, is this line offlog? 17:26:46 no. 17:26:53 just like 1 and ! are different 17:26:56 so are o and O. 17:27:10 !!!!! OFFLOG 17:27:24 hmmm. 17:27:25 maybe the caps lock key should be offlog. 17:27:28 so anything in capitals 17:27:34 JILLZILLA. I NEED YOUR BOOBIES. NOW. 17:27:37 that's off log. 17:27:43 heh. that's basically an ash filter. 17:27:52 ah, see, two birds with one stone. 17:28:07 * jillium laughs. Yeah, no-mor-jeffkspeak. 17:28:15 itsa jill 17:28:20 itsa meatball 17:28:24 meesa jill 17:29:11 meesa jill-jar binks? 17:29:18 jill-jill binks 17:29:19 jillium is now known as jilljar 17:29:44 hehehe 17:30:15 romance, morbus style: 17:30:16 [[[ 17:30:16 01,9904[14:31] morbus_iff: 01it is. 17:30:16 04[14:31] morbus_iff: 01and like you and me. you know, if i invented the alphabet, i've been told to put U and I together. 17:30:16 04[14:31] morbus_iff: 01now, i'm not entirely sure what that means, 17:30:16 04[14:31] morbus_iff: 01but if you had a beautiful body, i'd hold it against you. 17:30:18 04[14:31] morbus_iff: 01i mean, wait. 17:30:20 04[14:31] morbus_iff: 01dammit. i'm so bad at this.01,99 17:30:22 ]]] 17:30:30 * jilljar swoons. red! 17:30:35 sorry. stupid program. 17:30:38 * jilljar goes mad with passion. 17:30:38 auto colors paste. 17:30:46 and green! 17:30:51 I see only red. 17:30:57 [xxxx] 01,9901keep trying hunny 17:30:57 04[14:32] morbus_iff: 01mmaky. uh. what will you make me for breakfast tomorrow?01,99 17:31:07 * jilljar heads for the airport to fly to Morbus. 17:31:15 yay! 17:31:19 i've swooned jilljar! 17:31:19 * jilljar neglects to wear panties. 17:31:23 and a skirt! 17:32:09 wow. she didnt require much. 17:32:21 http://www.redmonk.net/2002/06/06#item1275 17:32:22 yeah, i dind't have to ask about the panties thing 17:32:27 that's why she's perfect for me. 17:32:29 she knows my desires. 17:32:34 meesa perfect for Morbus! 17:33:22 but can morbus deal with the jarjar accent? 17:33:33 pff, who says i'm gonna listen to her. 17:33:38 all i'm hearing is "forgot panties" 17:34:18 heh: http://media.redmonk.net/images/celebrateGreed.jpg 17:34:58 Go, my SWACK minions, spread my meme far and wide! 17:35:16 * AaronSw silkifies 17:35:23 mmmm, Silk 17:35:33 AaronSw: did you check out his screenshot? nudge, nudge. 17:35:42 yes, yes 17:35:50 poke, poke. 17:35:52 blah blah blah ampheta blah blah blah 17:35:53 hehe 17:36:03 i am morbus 1 man PR department 17:36:11 yeaaaah. 17:36:15 i don't spend a dime on PR. 17:36:16 ;) 17:36:27 i get the she... uh. the lovely users to do it for me ;) 17:36:55 newsflash: morbus calls users females 17:37:03 shemales, baybee! 17:37:37 oh man, long ago, i released this floppy disk / porn zip file called "The Shemales vs. Godzilla" 17:37:38 oy. 17:37:50 it was like nine pictures of shemales, and the rest were godzilla. 17:37:55 i had a couple of those packs. 17:37:57 * AaronSw looks for a font that looks good silkified 17:37:59 it was like garbage porn kids. 17:38:34 lucida grande 17:38:37 aaaronsw 17:38:40 aaaaaronsw 17:38:44 yes 17:38:59 i'm using it in snak now 17:39:04 what size? 17:39:05 snak look nice silkified too 17:39:08 10 17:39:30 Hm. I think this antialiased thing takes some getting used to. 17:39:50 * Morbus agrees. 17:39:55 i sometimes like the crisper letters. 17:40:04 i set my finder anti-alias high so that my fonts are left alone. 17:40:42 justme (~justme@p0920.vwa.wanadoo.nl) has joined #swhack 17:40:50 jilljar is now known as notme 17:41:36 [[[ 17:41:38 xxx: you're not ordinary. unique, i'd say. 17:41:38 [14:42] xxx: i'm going to a naughty lady party tomorrow night. 17:41:38 [14:42] morbus_iff: so, see! you've got to *collect* me. i'm one of a kind! make sure you bed me before someone else does! 17:41:38