00:01:11 what're you doing tomorrow, sbp? 00:01:46 [off] this log--when properly read out-of-context--is going to make us all look like loonies 00:01:53 it's 4 now. it's already tomorrow. 00:02:02 it's *so* 2 00:02:14 maybe for you. 00:02:19 and it's never tomorrow 00:02:24 well, I am me 00:02:45 and I am a figment of your berry-picking imagination 00:02:57 wmf! 00:03:00 stupid berry picker! that brings back memories. 00:03:12 wmf, want to see some aaronswtv? 00:03:16 there you are 00:03:18 sure 00:03:21 and the thunderbugs and Castle Igor. 00:03:42 the evesque plains! 00:04:19 the jam! 00:04:30 did you buy a camcorder? 00:04:38 no 00:04:39 Bersie! I miss her so 00:04:57 Bersie? 00:05:00 I'm not sure whether I should get a camcorder or a KritterDigital 00:05:07 http://infomesh.net/2001/12/bersie/ 00:05:12 Have you downloaded QT6 yet? 00:05:15 Yeah. I don't think we've ever met her, though. 00:05:18 * wmf is in "Optimizing System Performance" purgatory 00:05:31 We've never met Morbus either 00:05:52 Nor tasted Fefferberries 00:05:54 true 00:05:58 heh: [BX] The Spice Girls use BitchX (instead of underwear 00:05:58 and talent) 00:06:07 ah, well it depends on what you think of Fefferberries 00:06:22 I mean, it might be a cognate of some English word 00:06:33 heh 00:06:43 like "cutlass" 00:06:52 hm, wmf's ip crashes qtbroadcaster 00:06:56 well, that has a French root, anyway. 00:07:04 Indo-European 00:07:19 well, everything over here's from PIE originally 00:07:27 it goes without saying :-) 00:07:29 well, not quite everything 00:07:35 what not then? 00:07:47 "gung ho" 00:07:57 "squash" 00:08:01 but that's a steal from an asian language, surely? 00:08:12 Yes, surely 00:08:24 "The problem with defending the purity of the English language is that English is about as pure as a cribhouse whore." - James D. Nicoll 00:08:38 heh 00:08:39 and don't call me Shirley 00:09:16 AaronSw: I'm behind a NAT BTW 00:09:20 that joke just sucks-ass 00:09:27 nuh uh! 00:09:31 wmf, in a DMZ? 00:09:54 why ar eyou behind a nat anyway? 00:10:00 what? give me a complete sentence or something 00:10:13 um, because I have 3 computers 00:10:24 what are the other two? 00:10:27 thinkpad? 00:10:40 can you configure your NAT to put your machine in the DMZ, i.e. so that it can be a server 00:10:41 Linux machine (used only as the NAT) and ZapStation 00:10:50 aha, the zapstation 00:10:55 there is only one IP address available on the outside 00:11:01 i understand that 00:11:04 i am in the same position 00:11:08 but you can set up a DMZ 00:11:24 so that new ports will be forwarded to your machine 00:11:26 sbp has quit ("Homer: Twenty dollars? I wanted a peanut!") 00:11:33 heh! 00:11:34 I don't know how to do that 00:11:49 heh, that was spiffing 00:11:51 hm. can you punch open ports 5432 and 5434 then? 00:11:57 I don't know how to do that 00:12:07 well you're just useless aren't you 00:12:16 why don't you set up a DSS? 00:12:24 I tried. 00:12:38 There's a bug in QTB so it doens't work with a DSS or QTSS. 00:12:41 i tried both 00:12:53 hm, maybe if i manually upload the sdp 00:12:53 uhhh, what's the point of it then? 00:13:15 well you can do one-to-one 00:13:21 i got it working with sbp 00:13:34 so that's why it's called Broadcaster? :-) 00:13:36 and blanu tried pretty hard 00:14:06 sbp` is now known as sbp 00:17:36 Morbus (morbus@s121.terminal3.totalnetnh.net) has joined #swhack 00:17:37 tansaku_xr has quit (Connection timed out) 00:17:37 let's see if I get modded down for this: http://apple.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=33650&cid=3642407 00:18:34 * Morbus taps his foot. 00:18:42 *ahem* 00:19:46 using 10.1.5 now. 00:21:11 heh 00:21:20 Morbus, wanna upload? 00:21:51 heh. oh, what should I upload! 00:22:01 00:22:10 wmf has quit ("reboot for quicktime") 00:22:48 Morbus, fonts! 00:22:53 fonts! 00:22:55 heh. fucking fonts. 00:22:55 fonts! 00:23:03 lemme zip up an A and let you grab it. 00:23:50 mmkay. 00:23:52 hit my port 80. 00:24:00 there's a two meg #/A forlder there called archive.sit 00:24:00 blam, blam, blam! 00:24:19 * Morbus tries compiling AmphetaDesk under Classic Mac. 00:24:44 Morbus, where? all i see is the test page 00:24:55 uh, oops. 00:25:02 try ~morbys 00:25:24 er, you know. 00:25:48 got it 00:25:55 well, getting it 00:26:28 k. 00:26:28 if that goes fine, i'll b+c ya. 00:26:37 etc. 00:26:46 man, it'd be nice if this worked out. 00:26:46 i'm getting really sick and tired of it. 00:27:54 wmf (~wmf@cs666868-69.austin.rr.com) has joined #swhack 00:28:03 heh, what a vague tutorial: http://www.apple.com/quicktime/products/tutorials/delivery.html 00:28:15 wmf! 00:29:21 wmf: i hate you. you do not appease my need for acknowledgement. 00:29:25 Swhack the elder 00:29:38 settle down, Morbus 00:29:54 I am doing a zillion things at once 00:30:02 yay! you love me! 00:30:03 * Morbus moves closer to the Legs of Wmf (tm). 00:30:16 as it says in the FAQ... 00:30:30 heh, all of this was prophecized! 00:31:06 heh, heh. 00:31:15 wmf: consult page 365 00:31:28 "Calming Your Morbus Iff (TM) in case of Overstimulation" 00:31:37 366 on leap years. 00:32:34 I'd guess that there'd be 300 more pages in your manual 00:33:09 i should work on that. 00:34:30 uh. 00:34:30 ping? 00:34:36 heh, heh. Page 1, act 1. Congratulations on purchasing your Morbus Iff (TM) from Iffenterprises. Resist the urge to play with your Morbus Iff immediately, and take some tim to read through this manual. A Morbus is not like a regular human: if used improperly, the consequences can be quite severe 00:34:45 I was typing, damnit 00:34:59 heh, heh. 00:35:17 well, remmeber, aaron's trying to fuck up my cinnection. 00:35:17 i get pararnoid ;) 00:35:25 heh, indeed 00:35:54 ETA 155 00:37:42 dammit. 00:37:43 the classic mac one gets built but doesn't seem to run 00:43:06 AaronSw, you done? 00:43:24 yep 00:43:31 let's try another. 00:43:58 extracted ok? 00:44:14 * AaronSw tries 00:44:38 mmkay. same name archive, b/c. 00:44:43 seems to work 00:44:46 k. 00:44:55 should i download now? 00:44:59 yup 00:47:39 MorbusIff (morbus@s120.terminal3.totalnetnh.net) has joined #swhack 00:48:31 heh, heh. 00:48:33 guess what. 00:48:35 ;) 00:51:48 um, you crashed? 00:51:55 ETA 41:56 00:52:03 yeah, i crashed. 00:52:08 dunno who you're downloading from now ;) 00:52:42 nothing 01:10:29 Morbus has quit (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 01:26:18 MorbusIff has quit (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 01:56:56 heh heh "These are not the version numbers you are looking for. Move along. Move along. " 02:00:16 i'm afraid to look at jwz html 02:10:01 " I don't understand it, apparently there's some kind of prestige thing with making the customers bleed from the ears. I'm sure they all believe that the customers want it even louder." 02:25:14 AaronSw: nope 02:25:35 you're only using 0.4% of my CPU though 02:25:49 the web interface seems to be broken 02:26:18 ok, I have logs 02:27:02 are you 12. ? 02:27:12 yeah 02:27:19 but i'm no longer connected 02:27:43 it's just me and you 02:29:28 you're totally breaking up 02:29:38 I just heard "so wes, what kind of..." 02:29:48 who's saying hi to me? 02:29:57 hey Ben 02:30:00 BenSw 02:30:06 is MomSw yelling in the background? 02:30:15 y 02:30:19 hey MomSw 02:30:44 * wmf is setting up broadcaster, will try audio-only 02:30:52 ah, cool 02:31:39 hey! 02:31:45 stop that! 02:31:51 that was NoahSw 02:31:56 NoahSw: oh, um, yes 02:32:09 action! drama! violence! 02:32:13 all on AaronSwTV 02:32:32 there's too much violence on TV these days... 02:33:24 installing 02:33:37 I have so many windows open I can barely see AaronSwTV 02:33:58 From dwaters, who registered #speakup: "The speakup project is basically a bunch of blind people who like messing around with Linux and writing cool and, hopefully useful, software. It began with the Speakup screen reader package and has grown to encompass a number of projects as well as becoming a vibrant community." Please welcome #speakup to OPN. :) 02:34:37 re: singing, don't quit your day job 02:34:43 (Btw, that's 'dmwaters' :) 02:34:57 that was bensw 02:36:12 AaronSw: how do I configure broadcaster? 02:36:33 ok 02:36:38 ok 02:36:47 ok 02:38:01 I'm broadcasting, but where's my sdp file? 02:38:09 type command-shift-e 02:39:32 rtsp://felter.org/wmf.sdp 02:39:33 kensaku has quit ("http://www.neurogrid.net or nothing at all") 02:40:06 AaronSw: I have you muted, btw 02:40:15 hm? 02:40:21 i can hear myself 02:40:31 hmmm 02:40:57 say sumptin 02:41:06 just a sec 02:41:16 reload 02:42:07 still hear me 02:42:37 reload 02:42:50 why? 02:43:02 i still get the feed 02:43:08 because I'm changing the sdp file 02:43:16 ah 02:43:17 i still hear myself 02:43:54 still 02:44:19 ok, stop your stream 02:44:25 why? 02:44:33 just do it! 02:44:42 I mean stop watching my stream, that is 02:44:46 oh 02:46:11 ok, start listening to my stream 02:46:41 i hear myself 02:46:58 I hear you, too 02:46:59 silence... 02:47:00 hmmmmmmmmmm 02:47:37 we're on different ports 02:47:45 I'm going to restart DSS 02:47:52 k 02:48:34 yeah! 02:48:39 listen to my stream 02:48:47 ok 02:48:52 say something 02:48:55 oops 02:48:57 what port? 02:49:11 ok, try now 02:49:17 rtsp://felter.org/wmf.sdp 02:49:27 say something 02:49:44 wes says he'll turn on the radio, echo ensues 02:50:50 i hear some music 02:50:56 I have a good conferencing headset, but I left it at work 02:51:47 are you singing? 02:51:49 this only takes 57% of my CPU 02:51:50 yes 02:51:57 hm, i'm pegged at 100 02:55:59 say something, wes 02:56:02 are you still out there 02:56:06 yeah 02:56:10 I'm playing music 02:57:05 i get a bad state error when i try to connect 02:57:14 somebody on 63.x.x.x is watching 02:58:46 .dns 63.228.6.251 02:58:47 63.228.6.251 - mplsdslgw8C251.mpls.uswest.net 02:59:06 look? 03:00:09 i'm still not getting your broadcast 03:00:25 sorry man 03:01:29 now I'm not getting mine either 03:01:31 hmm 03:02:08 i can't even get mine 03:02:27 I think they may be conflicting 03:02:46 i sorta doubt that 03:02:55 it's designed for heavy load 03:03:15 heavy load == # of clients, not # of streams 03:06:26 " There is no limit on the number of unique live broadcasts that a single server can reflect, nor on the number of clients that can be connected to a single Reflection, apart from the overhead offile descriptor limitations, CPU, memory & bandwidth constraints." 03:06:36 hmm 03:06:42 ah, we get signal 03:07:14 I switched to AAC and my CPU is saturated 03:07:29 is that a different codec? 03:07:29 or maybe that's because I'm installing 10.1.5 :-) 03:07:33 yeah 03:08:01 PureVoice was only 11 kbps, which seems like a waste 03:08:03 i'm having trouble connecting 03:08:10 so I went up to 64 kbps AAC 03:08:37 maybe I should set up automatic unicast or whatever 03:08:38 Bad State 03:08:51 automatic is what hit the bug in qtb 03:09:04 unfortunately I'm not running the right version of DSS, so that may be causing some problems 03:09:13 what's the right version? 03:09:18 now i get connection failure 03:09:19 the snapshot 03:09:24 oh 03:11:31 heh, the echo creates a "galloping" effect when I type 03:11:44 discard this message, discard this message, discard this message... 03:12:01 i still can't connect. can you connect? 03:12:05 yeah 03:12:40 weirdly, the signal drops wheneve I adjust the volume 03:15:36 i get the same bad state error on two machines 03:15:53 I can restart the server again 03:17:15 you can try that 03:17:18 i think 24.86.215.130 is watching 03:17:19 .dns 24.86.215.130 03:17:20 24.86.215.130 - h24-86-215-130.ed.shawcable.net 03:17:25 ok 03:17:43 I don't see that IP 03:18:05 ok, myabe not then 03:18:44 let me know when it's rebooted 03:18:52 it's rebooted 03:19:10 hm, what's the url? 03:19:16 you were right, 24.x is watching 03:19:19 it's on HTP 03:19:57 i think 24 might be bill seitz 03:20:10 yeah, that url is so not working 03:20:23 we should be using openRTSP to debug this 03:20:24 was working earlier tho 03:21:38 it works for about 20 sec for me and then stops 03:22:31 let me see if it works if i stop broadcastin 03:24:17 I need to borrow a dual G4 and a camcorder and try this out at work tomorrow 03:24:34 heh, that'd rock 03:27:20 a fire truck is here 03:27:43 doing what? 03:28:06 I don't know 03:28:12 they're going in another building 03:28:17 03:28:18 it's having trouble hearing htp radio, i bet 03:28:56 police and EMS, too 03:29:06 ugh, sounds bad 03:29:17 no, sounds like 911 03:29:30 the default is to send everything except the Marines IIRC 03:29:39 lol 03:31:08 * thelsdj finally makes the connection between wmf and hack the planet 03:32:32 ok, good night folks 03:32:42 nite 03:32:51 hack the broadcast 03:33:03 extreme codecs 03:33:21 wmf has quit ("reboot for 10.1.5") 03:33:36 i wish i got 10.1.5 03:41:09 ooh, dnm links to us 03:49:18 tansaku_xr (~sam@mtl13gw.mtl.t.u-tokyo.ac.jp) has joined #swhack 03:53:02 jwz: " So I wrote my own. It does almost nothing, but it's the superset of nothing that I cared about." 03:55:29 awesome: http://www.headlinehaikus.com/ 04:05:00 jwz: 'I had about five minutes of stress about this the other day before I realized, ``wait, this is so not my problem, and hasn't been for years.''' 04:50:07 lol: http://www.jwz.org/gruntle/starwars.html 04:53:56 lol! 'Where did these pinheads find their user interface designers? Did some masochistic CEO go home one day, try to program his VCR, and say, ``hey, this really sucks! I've got to hire this guy and see if he can fuck up my telephones this bad!'' 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We just experienced a split in a main rotation server and reconnection difficulties which we're currently analyzing. Apologies for the inconvenience. 06:39:30 gordo (~gordo@213.78.104.113) has joined #swhack 06:40:30 gordo has quit (Client Quit) 06:41:19 AaronSw has changed the topic to: EART (exterminate all rational thought) 06:41:58 gordo (~gordo@213.78.104.113) has joined #swhack 06:42:11 AaronSw: The wrong IRC server? 06:42:18 Yes. 06:42:21 Actually I think it's *you* that's on the wrong server. 06:42:27 You're the one that split, not mel. 06:42:29 No. carter is the right IRC server. 06:42:29 -l 06:42:37 BEAR OWNZ J00 06:42:43 DO NOT ARGUE. CARTER IS THE RIGHT IRC SERVER. 06:42:47 I AM THE PUSHER ROBOT 06:42:55 TYPE /server carter.openprojects.net TO END NETSPLITS FOREVER 06:43:02 no irc server on this network is any good 06:43:02 hehe 06:43:25 it's the only irc server that hasn't been taken out of the rotation since i started here 06:43:33 Ahh. 06:43:35 Beats me. 06:43:39 gordo has quit (Client Quit) 06:43:40 I connect to irc.openprojects.net 06:43:44 which seems to work most of the time. 06:43:51 except when it does not 06:43:56 Indeed. 06:44:01 What are you up to this evening? 06:44:11 * Ash changes his auto-join to point at carter 06:44:12 I am exterminating all rational thought, actually. You? 06:44:25 gordo (~gordo@213.78.104.113) has joined #swhack 06:44:32 Yeah, me too. 06:44:41 Finalizing some design decisions on a project I'm working on. 06:44:59