00:00:20 GabeW (~Gabe@12-236-104-95.client.attbi.com) has joined #swhack 00:02:38 AaronSw, do you know of anyone who uses mod_content in their RSS? i want to try some more. 00:03:03 not really. i think stevej used to but he seems to have taken it down... 00:04:06 syndic8 needs a search xml feature 00:04:58 yeah, that'd be nice. 00:05:02 suggest it ;) 00:05:32 nah, i'm too lame 00:05:46 * eikeon is back (gone 04:04:57) 00:06:03 heh. 00:06:13 that's what I said when you suggested req'd _tab ;) 00:09:14 brb, found a nearby wireless netw 00:09:56 oOh. 00:19:29 anyone a developer/admin on SF? 00:20:59 what kind? 00:21:09 hm, well they're around and i can ping 192.168.1.1, but no dhcp and no getting out it seems 00:21:24 nevermind. just found it, i thinkl 00:22:13 maybe i'll walk over there. 00:22:54 [cut to: aaron holding ibook in aaron, walking around randomly while checking signal strength] 00:24:01 s/in aaron/in air/ 00:27:41 gotta run 00:29:22 heh, heh. 00:32:06 Godd Morning, Good Morning, Good! 00:33:00 whoo. 00:33:04 new amphetadesk developer: http://www.atmedia.net/KlausRusch/ 00:42:35 cool Morb 00:42:39 good for you 00:42:47 huh. 00:43:00 ampheta can't parse the W3C feeds, since they preface "item" with the rss namespace. 00:51:54 Hi all. Running a FreeBSD channel that does support? Please /msg me, I'm taking a poll. Thanks. 01:01:24 ooh. aaron is on scripting.com 01:02:07 redmonk has quit (Remote closed the connection) 01:03:11 i feel honored that i've been on scripting.com and i've only had a blog for like 11 days heh 01:06:53 of course being linked to by dave 15 minutes after i put my first post on my weblog was kinda scary 01:10:02 jeremiah (~chatzilla@ip68-10-31-209.hr.hr.cox.net) has joined #swhack 01:10:05 hello 01:21:20 GabeW has quit ("Client Exiting") 01:24:39 MorbusIff (morbus@s95.terminal3.totalnetnh.net) has joined #swhack 01:25:21 GabeW (~Gabe@12-236-104-95.client.attbi.com) has joined #swhack 01:27:14 GabeW has quit (Client Quit) 01:30:10 Morbus has quit (No route to host) 01:35:20 lol @ lilo 01:36:14 who is thelsdj? 01:36:24 some guy 01:36:30 some person who turntables at clubs. 01:36:37 apparently he sells drugs too 01:36:40 doid-lapt (~besirc@host217-39-80-54.in-addr.btopenworld.com) has joined #swhack 01:36:40 sweet 01:36:46 That's what I'm talkin' about 01:36:51 guys, keep it down 01:36:58 the feds could knock at any time 01:37:20 too busy insider trading 01:37:35 lol! 01:38:17 hehe, did you see that story? 01:38:36 http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A60476-2002May22.html 01:38:41 http://www.EvolveFISH.com/fish/media/emb-satan.GIF 01:38:41 boring, though 01:38:45 oh man, that slays me 01:38:45 Hi all. If you do web stuff, can you take a look at http://openprojects.net/irc_servers.shtml and suggest some simple way to center each of the images in that row of icons? Should be XHTML 1.0 Transitional compliant and generally clean viewing for most browsers. Thanks! 01:38:46 hahahahaha 01:39:10 oh my god. 01:39:12 that's fucking hilarious. 01:39:21 muahahah. 01:39:40 OpenProjects: We don't know HTML, but trust us with your important conversations. 01:42:26 heh. Morbus, how's Ampheta going? (Radio is broken) 01:42:41 doid-lapt: do I know you? goddamit, I suck at rememberign shit. 01:42:41 the alpha is going super well. 01:42:51 the only thing left besides new features is docuemntation. 01:42:58 thats my final "bug" - outdated documentation. 01:43:07 should be two weeks to release, but you can alpha if you want. 01:43:15 cool. then again, I'd need publishing anyway - may reinstall 01:43:28 publishing to radio or something else? 01:43:28 But, yes, I'd like to try it! 01:43:35 mmkay. what's your email? 01:43:43 Dunno, was thinking about trying something else 01:43:43 and who are you again? sorry. i suck. 01:43:52 doid at doid dot com 01:44:14 Charles Goodier, weblogger, aspiring middle-aged hacker 01:44:23 doid-lapt: you gonna be on Windows? 01:44:35 yes, mainly 01:44:38 er... we don't allow anyone over 25 on here 01:45:00 25 is middle aged no? 01:45:17 er, no, it's not 01:45:38 just felt it when I was 25 then 01:45:41 MorbusIff: almost, turntabling using unix commands and selling drugs 01:45:52 its printed 'The LS DJ' 01:45:54 yeaaah. 01:45:59 doid-lapt: first off, read this: http://www.geocrawler.com/lists/3/SourceForge/11148/0/8744045/ 01:46:01 ah, feeling 25 is as good as being it for the purposes of swhack 01:46:12 you'll notice it when you do the alpha-update you'll soon learn about. 01:46:18 that might not be quite true. close enough, perhaps 01:46:28 there's a simple fix for it (it's not crucial by any means), but the fix hasn't been archived yet. 01:46:44 small fonts fine by me 01:46:52 well, unreadable fonts, really. 01:47:01 it's caused by a bug in the Win32 GUI libraries. 01:47:08 just sent you an email. 01:47:20 Hi all. Thanks to the many folks who contributed, and x-virge who won the prize.... did the trick :) 01:47:22 contains two urls. the first contains the initial install, the second contains a small update. 01:47:27 make sure you run both to have the latest code. 01:47:38 align=middle. we HTML mastah! 01:48:17 align is outdated! there must be some cryptic way to do it in CSS with 5
's and 12 's 01:48:28 erm actually anyway :) 01:49:00 lilo is so stupid.. lol 01:49:03 doid: i have a utility that can take XBEL and convert it to Mozilla. 01:49:08 Ash has changed the topic to: http://lilofree.net/ 01:49:14 >lilo< thats not correct XHTML, should be 01:49:16 heheh 01:49:18 i use it to export my bookamrks and then import them into five different browsers on two different os's. 01:49:40 Oh, that's cool - I use Galeon in virtual machines 01:50:04 haha damn they were one step ahead of me 01:50:05 yup. it'll work well for you. 01:50:19 Getting a little behind - my pop a/c not working... 01:50:40 argh. 01:50:42 i can't breathe! 01:50:44 stupid summer code. 01:52:14 Also, thanks to the many people who insisted I should add / just before the > :) 01:52:26 heh, heh. 01:52:30 (I already had *grump* :) 01:52:49 oh, now you're just stuck on yourself. 01:55:05 * MorbusIff coughs 01:55:08 MorbusIff is now known as Morbus 01:55:10 Morbus: I've got no email - pesky OE! 01:55:16 argh. 01:55:20 i can paste them here. 01:55:24 just two urls. 01:55:37 http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?thread_id=730785&forum_id=9314 01:55:40 http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?thread_id=741461&forum_id=9314 01:55:41 And now it's working, cheers 01:55:48 sigh Indeed 01:57:07 lol @ thelsdj and Also, thanks to the many people who insisted I should add / just before the > :) 01:58:45 Hi all. Hint on recent changes to Chanserv SET #foo TOPICLOCK ON. There is no more ChanServ SET TOPIC command. You simply set the topic. If you are identified to NickServ and have at least an ACCESS level of TOPIC (defaults to 10), it will allow you to change the topic. Thanks. 01:59:36 Note: For non-operators to change the topic, the channel must be set to MODE -t. Thanks. 02:01:46 wmf (~wmf@cs666868-69.austin.rr.com) has joined #swhack 02:01:56 oh man, here we go 02:01:59 go on, say it 02:02:01 get it over and done with 02:02:09 come on now! 02:02:15 say *that* *word*! 02:02:35 SWHACK! 02:02:42 yaaaaaay! 02:02:48 heh 02:02:51 jeremiah has quit ("ChatZilla 0.8.7 [Mozilla rv:1.0rc2/20020510]") 02:02:53 heh, heh 02:03:14 oops, I jerked my earphones half out of the comp. socket when you finally said "SWHACK!" 02:06:36 Morbus: I'm a user and I like it. The fonts are fine for me. Can I drop in my Radio mySubscriptions.opml I wonder? 02:06:48 Morb: you can convert XBEL to Mozilla? 02:06:51 doid-lapt: you should be able to use,. 02:06:52 sbp, yes. 02:06:54 that must be some program 02:07:01 its syncasaurus. 02:07:05 you know about syncasaurus. 02:07:15 doid-lap: yes, technically, you should be able to. 02:07:17 i haven't tested it. 02:07:23 next time I need to upgrade I'll just make a few bookmarks and use your program 02:07:24 if it doesn't work, lemme know, and I'll tell you what to fix. 02:07:45 k. lemme know if you need help getting it working. there's no docs for it, unfortunately. 02:07:50 syncasaurus: a*HA*. of course 02:07:52 just some mailing list messages with some samples. 02:08:08 ok, everyone, I need a settings name. 02:08:22 this is a setting in ampheta that means "every X minutes, check for new updates" 02:08:26 any thoughts on what it should be called? 02:08:35 "check_every" isn't telling enough. 02:08:38 Bob, Fred, Matilda, Henry, Frank, John... 02:08:44 period 02:09:22 i want some sort of "channels" name in there. 02:09:22 makes it more understandable at first glance. 02:09:34 yeah, that's good: channelcheck_period 02:09:48 what about duration? 02:09:54 channel_check_duration? 02:10:05 period makes sense, but doesn't seem perfect. 02:10:13 channel_check_every? 02:10:21 erm... period is the perfect word, surely? 02:10:25 .wn period 02:10:25 period defined as: 02:10:26 - n 1: an amount of time; "a time period of 30 years"; "hastened the period of his recovery" [syn: {time period}, {period of time}] 02:10:27 - 2: one of three periods of play in hockey games 02:10:28 - 3: a stage in the history of a culture having a definable place in space and time; "a novel from the Victorian period" [syn: {historic period}, {historical period}] 02:10:29 - 4: the interval taken to complete one cycle of a regularly repeating phenomenon 02:10:39 the latter sense 02:10:41 I agree, um... interval? 02:10:41 right, sbp, its like a single event. 02:10:49 ah, #4. 02:11:04 yeah, but still, that's not perfect. its #4 for god's sake. 02:11:08 channel_check_interval 02:11:08 that's pretty good. 02:11:09 heh, heh 02:11:12 thanks :) 02:12:19 going to fix my fridge would you believe it... 02:12:56 doid-lapt: is ampheta workign alright for ya? 02:13:17 yep, going to try mySubscriptions now 02:13:22 k. 02:13:25 lemme know if it borks. 02:14:26 ooh, Morbus is into 'borks' 02:14:42 is he Swedish? 02:15:14 no, but I'm told that he's a good chef 02:15:21 bwahahah. who told you that? 02:15:26 i burn soup for god's sake. 02:15:39 how many times do I ask you to remind me not to burn my food? 02:15:40 dozens! 02:15:51 and we always fail 02:15:54 heh, true 02:16:10 AaronSw has changed the topic to: KILL ASH 02:16:29 AaronSw has changed the topic to: er... we don't allow anyone over 25 on here 02:16:42 lolo 02:17:01 eikeon has left #swhack 02:17:04 heh 02:17:06 heh, heh 02:17:36 eikeon (~eikeon@jungle.ne.client2.attbi.com) has joined #swhack 02:17:37 wmf, what was his part message? 02:17:44 "sorry... over limit" 02:17:50 heh 02:17:51 ;) 02:17:59 AaronSw: what? 02:18:02 * eikeon silly 02:18:12 ne'er mind 02:18:32 ooh, Aaron's gone all poetic 02:18:46 yeah, what's up with that? 02:19:22 heh, it passes the Borges test 02:19:36 Borges is the man 02:19:37 * sbp checks his calendar just in case it's 1780 again 02:19:39 that must be danbri's fault 02:20:02 hey, Aaron 02:20:07 hi doid-lapt 02:20:09 this isn't rude, right? 02:20:10 [[[ 02:20:11 AmphetaDesk automatically checks for new data from your 02:20:11 channels, by default, every 60 minutes. If you'd like to 02:20:11 increase this time (you CAN NOT decrease it), enter the 02:20:11 number of minutes here. 02:20:12 ]]] 02:20:19 maybe MAY NOT, instead. 02:20:21 nah 02:20:21 .wn cannot 02:20:25 Morbus: that did bork it. I changed it back and it works again. 02:20:25 make it sound like its the polite thing to do ;) 02:20:34 doid-lapt: gimme a sec, and I'll tell you what to fix. 02:20:41 "you shalln't" 02:21:07 Aaron, did you see you were written up by Dan Gillmor? 02:21:11 yes 02:21:20 hm, time to go check on the disk again.. brb 02:21:34 heh, Aaron's cooking his discs again 02:21:56 I've heard stranger things 02:22:24 apparently you can fix some stuck LCD pixels by "massaging" the screen (calling jillzila...) 02:22:28 uh oh, with Dave linking to blogspace.com, I'll bet the logs are out of action 02:22:31 doid: i have a fix for you. 02:23:02 open up AmphetaDesk/lib/AmphetaDesk/MyChannels.pm 02:23:25 look for a routine named "load_my_channels". 02:23:31 right before this line: 02:23:35 $CHANNELS{ $channel->{xmlurl} } = $channel; 02:23:41 add: 02:23:43 [[[ 02:23:46 # Radio Userland importing. 02:23:46 unless ( $channel->{filename} ) { 02:23:46 $channel->{filename} = create_channel_filename($channel->{title}); 02:23:46 } 02:23:47 ]]] 02:23:49 and save the file. 02:23:54 you should be set. 02:24:11 lemme know if it works. 02:24:40 nah, that's a different server, sbp 02:25:45 AaronSw and his vast server farm 02:26:03 he'll be breeding them next 02:26:07 i just keep rackin' em up 02:26:09 Vorpal with snicker-snack 02:26:23 snicker-pal? 02:26:29 oops, gotta go again 02:27:13 heh, I just saw an installer put up the GPL and force me to agree to it 02:27:23 heh, heh. whoo! 02:27:44 "this is GPL. How can you disagree? Are you Bill Gates or something?" 02:29:33 hehehe 02:30:12 Yeah, a lot of OS X installers do that. 02:30:15 It's pretty funny. 02:30:53 SUBMIT TO TEH GPEAL@!#%!!11 02:30:58 RMS IS WATCHING U!!@1 02:30:59 oh in that case: "GPL. You must accept. Welcome to OS X." 02:31:02 Morbu: nope. I could just edit the opml. 02:31:05 * Ash makes a big brother poster with RMS on it 02:31:13 heh, what Ash said] 02:31:13 it didn't work? hmf. what happened? 02:31:14 s/Morbu/Morbus 02:31:17 s/]// 02:31:36 doid is right: the trailing slash is redundant on IRC 02:31:41 It doesn't serve the page 02:31:44 don't edit the opml! that's cheating. 02:31:51 does it download the channels? 02:31:58 can you see files saved in ~/data/channels/? 02:32:21 No, nothing - it doesn't serve the page to the browser, as before 02:32:38 ... could you send me your error_log and your OPML file? if you can? 02:32:44 er, your AmphetaDesk.log, rather. 02:32:58 it should be doing a little bit more/less than just not serving the page. 02:33:27 Sure. That's what it did when I simply replaced the file 02:33:35 k. 02:33:41 * AaronSw finds more google banner ads on /. 02:33:47 i'l have a fix ;) 02:37:39 Sent with thanks 02:38:24 awesome. i'm working on something now. 02:38:28 it'll be right in that routine. 02:41:05 sbp, I'm rarely right. There should be slashes after? 02:41:47 I think so 02:42:08 cheers 02:42:18 you're very much welcome indeed 02:43:23 doid-lapt: i have success. 02:43:32 so, is there chat elsewhere on the semplesh / infogami etc? 02:43:32 lemme do one more test, then join me in #disobey so I can paste the fix to you 02:44:07 yes, #semplesh 02:44:38 * Seth posts first rough draft of Pentals http://robustai.net/mentography/pentals.html 02:44:49 Morbus, sbp: sure 02:45:33 who's Set Russell? 02:45:51 of http://robustai.net 02:46:23 ping? 02:46:23 crap. 02:48:48 MorbusIff (morbus@s124.terminal3.totalnetnh.net) has joined #swhack 02:49:44 * MorbusIff grumbles 02:51:54 ping? 02:51:54 crap. 02:51:54 *** MorbusIff (morbus@s124.terminal3.totalnetnh.net) has joined the channel 02:52:05 heheheh. 02:52:09 well, i guess i wasn't stuck, eh? 02:52:12 what i do to test connection is /whois some random name 02:52:34 i'm on 9 channels. its odd for one not to blink in a minute ;) 02:52:48 [10:53] some: No such nick/channel 02:52:54 wtf, AaronSw? bad advice, you hoe 02:53:31 heh, I'm on 9 too 02:53:48 8 on OPN, 1 elsewhere. 02:54:25 oh, that's 8 then. "elsewhere" doesn't count 02:55:59 doids (~besirc@host217-39-80-54.in-addr.btopenworld.com) has joined #swhack 02:57:43 hm, should i back you guys up now or later 02:58:13 doid-lapt has quit ("Bye") 02:58:22 i think i'll back you up now. 02:58:24 doids is now known as doid 02:58:41 c'ya 02:58:58 back us... up? 03:03:12 .time PST 03:03:20 I said:- 03:03:21 .time PST 03:03:33 7:58 PM 03:03:37 heh, heh 03:03:39 thanks, Seth! 03:03:50 I don't know what's up with xena these days 03:04:11 she seems to be working quite randomly 03:04:13 did you see how i gave you screen credit on the parser? 03:04:32 screen credit? 03:05:04 yeah .. like that stuff that scrolls on the movies everybody ignores 03:05:43 see under credits in the doc of http://robustai.net/mentography/bot.py 03:06:18 in hollywierd .. that's what they work for ... screen credits 03:06:31 ooh, neat, I am in there! 03:06:39 hollyweird: lol 03:07:06 got demo/documentation? 03:07:21 the httpBot takes in pntals now and says them back ... uuu well at least triples still yet 03:07:46 first rough draft of pentals is at http://robustai.net/mentography/pentals.html 03:08:31 but its real simple to run .. just put the 4 files in a dir and do 'python httpBot.py' 03:10:13 hit it with you favorite browser 03:10:37 Morbus has quit (No route to host) 03:57:40 LoneElf (~nono@o-s13-p3-148155.saber.net) has joined #swhack 03:57:50 LoneElf has left #swhack 04:04:18 uberfunk (~adam@12-239-86-188.client.attbi.com) has joined #swhack 04:25:39 AaronSw: ampheta serious rocks right now. 04:25:54 i just added email links to feed owners, and Radio Userland imports from the filesystem and a URL. 04:26:22 and with that, I say good night ;) 04:26:53 MorbusIff has quit ("http://www.disobey.com/") 04:33:40 anyone alive? 04:36:13 Just about, but I'm not really a regular here 04:36:49 * sbp waves 04:37:18 this seems like an interesting place to hang out 04:37:31 is this mostly a bloggin crowd? 04:37:50 I do, some don't 04:37:52 of course I know about the blog for this channel 04:38:06 I guess I'll just lurk until an interesting topic comes up 04:38:22 sbp, you usually awake this time? 04:39:04 uberfunk: #swhack is a cult led by our charismatic leader AaronSw 04:40:00 but not a cabal? i'm disappointed 04:41:10 it's also a non-existent conspiracy 04:41:47 well, the cult has a cabal at its center 04:48:32 with a camarilla protecting the leader 05:01:45 wmf has quit ("you put your weeeed in there...") 05:06:44 Seth has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 08:09:03 tansaku_uk (~sam@aule-dhcp63.area.pi.cnr.it) has joined #swhack 08:09:22 tansaku_uk is now known as tansaku_italia 09:09:18 tansaku_italia has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 09:09:29 tansaku_italia (~sam@aule-dhcp63.area.pi.cnr.it) has joined #swhack 09:10:41 AndyS (~afs@hplb.hpl.hp.com) has joined #swhack 09:15:01 tansaku_italia has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 09:17:19 kensaku (~sam@aule-dhcp63.area.pi.cnr.it) has joined #swhack 09:18:20 tansaku_italia (~sam@aule-dhcp63.area.pi.cnr.it) has joined #swhack 09:18:23 kensaku has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 09:25:45 tansaku_italia has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 09:27:31 tansaku_italia (~sam@aule-dhcp63.area.pi.cnr.it) has joined #swhack 09:29:08 kensaku (~sam@aule-dhcp63.area.pi.cnr.it) has joined #swhack 09:29:09 tansaku_italia has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 09:30:14 tansaku_italia (~sam@aule-dhcp63.area.pi.cnr.it) has joined #swhack 09:30:18 kensaku has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 09:43:32 tansaku_italia has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 09:43:40 kensaku (~sam@aule-dhcp63.area.pi.cnr.it) has joined #swhack 11:22:13 kensaku has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 12:12:51 tansaku_italia (~sam@aule-dhcp63.area.pi.cnr.it) has joined #swhack 12:13:25 kensaku (~sam@aule-dhcp63.area.pi.cnr.it) has joined #swhack 12:13:27 tansaku_italia has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 12:17:04 kensaku is now known as tansaku_italia 12:18:58 pixel (~pixel@ns.bhsi.com) has joined #swhack 12:33:03 kensaku (~sam@aule-dhcp63.area.pi.cnr.it) has joined #swhack 12:33:46 tansaku_italia has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 12:38:24 kensaku is now known as tansaku_italia 12:50:24 pixel has quit ("http://www.perceive.net/") 12:52:18 Morbus (~morbus@morbus.totalnetnh.net) has joined #swhack 12:59:25 helloOOo swhackers! 12:59:46 davb (~chatzilla@rrcs-nys-24-97-22-203.biz.rr.com) has joined #swhack 13:01:48 pixel (~pixel@ns.bhsi.com) has joined #swhack 13:02:09 morning. 13:02:22 just sent you an email. 13:02:36 I just got it too. 13:02:54 ok. well, don't read it. 13:03:08 i admitted my homosexuality to you, but decided that it'd be best if i kept it a secret. 13:03:13 so don'... oh. shit. 13:03:14 dammit. 13:03:36 man. a strike out. 13:03:45 :) 13:03:56 i own j00 ;) 13:04:22 wow. I didn't know you were a homophobic cross-dressing hermaphrodite! I'm glad you told me. 13:04:58 yeah, well, i figured since we were getting all close and all 13:06:06 i just added some awesome stuff to the cvs last night. 13:06:13 excellent. 13:06:17 email icons, radio userland file and URL imports, etc. 13:06:19 wonderful stuff :) 13:06:36 I just installed the .Net framework, and the fucking thing now tells me that I need SP1. Why didn't it install that to begin with?!? 13:06:42 heh, heh. 13:06:44 trying out aggie? 13:06:51 it'd be great if the .net stuff wasn't 20+ megs. 13:06:52 attempting to. 13:06:56 that's a little big for an aggregator ;) 13:07:00 HEHE 13:07:09 Aggie itself is fairly small though. 13:07:16 yah, something like 20k or so? 13:07:18 firing it up. 13:07:26 lemme know how it works. 13:07:38 the exe is 28k. in total, about 60k. 13:07:50 next thing I know, you'll be jumping amphetaship and joining his pirate crew. 13:07:55 bitch. 13:07:59 I stuck my mychannels.opml in it. seems to ahve read it in fine. 13:08:04 NEVER! 13:08:14 :) 13:08:31 I like the cross-platormmedness of ampheta. 13:08:43 don't you only use Windows, though? 13:08:57 so? I'm still a perl guy at heart =) 13:09:00 :) 13:09:40 i didn't even notice that we're tlaking in swack. 13:09:45 too many windows. 13:10:07 heh. yeah, trillian does that to you. 13:10:15 you should bind them to one window. 13:10:23 they are. I think that's what screwed me. 13:10:24 i have eight channels in one window. 13:10:27 aahh. 13:10:29 I have 5. 13:10:32 your IMs bind to that same window? 13:10:36 (including the irc console) 13:10:40 yup. 13:10:41 i have IRC in one window, and then the IMs freefloating. 13:10:43 aaah. 13:11:24 if it would just display the channel name of IM name, rather than all the other shit in the title bars it'd be better. and if I could stop it from scrolling the title I wouldn't be quite as insane. 13:11:42 ah. 13:11:44 the multi-threaded ness of aggie is nice. 13:11:45 i hid the scrolling thing 13:11:58 i would see Container IRC as the parent title, and then IRC #swhack as the embedded title. 13:12:02 no fonts, no topic, etc. 13:12:07 i figure i read the topic when I join ;) 13:12:26 oh, you mean the scrolling of the cha... nevermind. 13:12:27 maybe I missed that configuration. 13:12:29 i'm being dumb 13:13:03 you wanna see something neat? 13:13:07 sure. 13:13:53 it's loading. 13:14:10 shit. port 8888 isn't open through the firewall. 13:14:15 bwahahaah. 13:14:19 sigh. what is? 13:19:55 is ampheta still running? 13:20:01 I think I may have crashed it. 13:20:10 oh yeah, you did. 13:20:20 oh wait, did you import the channels, and then show the page? 13:24:42 looks like it worked. 13:24:56 222 channels? heh. yeah, i'd say so. 13:28:00 hehehe 13:35:14 cool. 13:36:31 hrm. 14:04:09 AndyS has left #swhack 14:12:30 pixel has quit (Remote closed the connection) 14:13:17 pixel (~pixel@ns.bhsi.com) has joined #swhack 14:17:02 redmonk (~steve@63.149.73.20) has joined #swhack 14:17:08 monk! 14:17:15 swhack! 14:17:17 morb! 14:17:35 anyone here got experience building unix utils on os x? 14:17:50 there's a porting guide available. 14:17:57 what's up, though? i've done a few C things here and there. 14:18:03 but it was mindless bungling. 14:18:14 "line 23 cause a problem? doesn't look important. i'll comment it! wheee!" 14:18:17 and then they work. 14:18:19 * Morbus shrugs. 14:18:20 14:18:29 redmonk: small world. I stumbled upon your blog, was reading it, and then realized it was you. 14:18:49 swhack: bring people together. 14:19:09 er, at least, until AaronSw closes it out of dictatorlike boredom. 14:19:56 ooooh. 14:20:03 from where did you stumble? 14:20:15 hmf. 14:20:22 still some minor bugs in the delete code too. 14:20:24 morbus: i desperately want to get rdfdb to compile on os x 14:20:37 what happens when you try? 14:20:42 not quite sure. I got to your blog because of the whole Conversant debacle. 14:20:57 it can't find gcc 14:21:05 oh, yeah, i read about that. 14:21:18 pixel:heh. yeah, we kinda went off - i'm over it now 14:21:18 "gcc" doesn't exist but "cc" does or something. 14:21:25 so you need to modify the makefile to point to cc instead. 14:21:26 hm. same thing? 14:21:40 they are the same thing, technically, but apple didn't alias them or some such. 14:21:46 ok 14:21:50 you may also want to get the april developer's tool. apparently it has gcc 3 in it. 14:21:55 oooooohhhh, bad things. 14:21:59 or something new with gcc. 14:22:21 "initialization discards qualifiers from pointer target type" 14:22:44 heh. uh. ok. click, uh... "continue" 14:22:47 the fist of MANY errors. this is gonna be FUN! 14:22:52 er, first 14:22:53 whoaaa. 14:22:58 "the fist of many errors!" 14:23:06 kung fu! 14:23:10 "you leave my daughter alone, or I attack you with the fist of many errors!" 14:23:14 yeah, exactly. 14:23:46 redmonk: you may want to ask in rdfig too. 14:23:49 somewhere there may know. 14:23:54 right 14:24:24 CaptSolo has left #swhack 14:26:55 some help they are. too good to talk to *me*, obviously 14:26:57 ;-) 14:27:03 hehehe 14:27:15 you haven't been initiated. 14:27:27 no one will speak until the great one acknowledges your presence ;) 14:27:41 guess not. looking at the number of errors in this thing, it should be initiation enough 14:27:45 who, AAronsw? 14:27:49 ;) 14:27:59 * Morbus bursts out laughing. 14:28:05 14:28:06 please ignore the man behind the curtain. 14:28:24 fly, my monkies, fly! 14:28:39 Morbus has changed the topic to: fly, my monkies, fly! 14:29:45 hehehe 14:33:34 kensaku (~sam@aule-dhcp63.area.pi.cnr.it) has joined #swhack 14:36:57 tansaku_italia has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 14:47:16 heh: 14:47:18 [[[ 14:47:18 [10:47] hey, nacho, you like perl? 14:47:18 [10:47] stupid bot. 14:47:18 [10:47] dumb human 14:47:19 ]]] 14:48:13 hehehe 14:49:46 aha, it was dilbert00.gif! 14:58:08 sbp: what's this about age dicrimination in swack? 14:58:17 er, discrimination 14:58:35 tansaku_italia (~sam@aule-dhcp63.area.pi.cnr.it) has joined #swhack 14:59:17 kensaku has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 15:01:12 age discrimination? heh, heh 15:01:22 we decided that if you're 25 in spirit, that's acceptable 15:04:09 * redmonk builds berkeley db on os x 15:04:17 thx. heh 15:04:51 sbp: so i've had this app idea for, well, what seems like a decade now 15:04:58 6 years really 15:05:06 Ash has changed the topic to: fly, my monkies, fly! || what's this about monkey discrimination in swhack? 15:05:22 i could never figure out what datastore to use 15:05:26 hey redmonk, i was cracking up at your blog entry that was linked to from winerlog. 15:05:42 b/c it's a very web-like information space 15:05:53 ash: hehe. i got a winerlog link. that rocked 15:06:04 yeah, it was funny 15:06:05 hehe 15:06:27 so i finally found rdfdb, and realized that it's pretty much what i've been looking for 15:06:42 these aren't the data stores you're looking for 15:06:44 move along 15:06:50 heheh. 15:06:56 actually, rdf in general is what i needed, rdfdb just makes it easy to store/query 15:07:30 course then it wouldn't build :) 15:07:48 (see, Morbus? I'm weening myself from noses. ;) ) 15:08:42 * redmonk watches db3 build go by on terminal. Mmmmmm, Terminal 15:09:02 from noses? 15:09:08 ;-) 15:09:09 huh? 15:09:11 ;) 15:09:14 oooH. 15:09:14 hehehe. 15:09:19 man, i forgot all about that. 15:09:20 15:09:22 lol 15:09:29 and here i've been feeling guilty 15:09:32 lol. 15:09:38 heheh. man, i can't even remember what the url on that was. 15:09:41 goddamit. 15:09:45 i think i have alzheimers. 15:09:47 heh 15:12:02 .google midget nose fetish 15:12:05 midget nose fetish: http://www.supersphere.com/Zinetropa/Partner.html?ID=Backwash 15:12:29 Launchbar rocks 15:16:34 i've been meaning to use it. 15:16:37 never got aroudn to it. 15:18:29 DUDE. 15:18:39 i rarely use the dock any more 15:18:46 it is SO convenient 15:18:52 go get it. now. 15:19:17 i have tons of things in the dock. 15:19:28 i used popup folders/docked in OS 9 all the time, so the dock was a dream for me. 15:19:39 i've heard so many good things about launchbar 15:19:56 lol 15:20:34 president of USOC claims a bachelor's and PhD on her resume 15:20:42 (that she never had) 15:20:46 dd'oh! 15:20:47 http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/showcase/chi-0205240329may24.story?coll=chi%2Dnews%2Dhed 15:20:49 man, what losers 15:21:03 "There are some things on my resume that I should have corrected, and I didn't," Baldwin said in an interview. 15:21:08 * Ash laughs 15:21:13 "Oops, did I say I was a PhD? My bad!" 15:24:52 "I always thought it was OK to stretch the truth on your resume" 15:24:53 hehe 15:26:20 I dno't understand why it would have needed to be corrected. It shouldn't have been on there to begin with right? 15:26:39 I guess I could put that I had a PhD on mine too, since at some point in my life, I expect to get one. 15:37:14 "I lift this clavicle to worlds without number, and bring a new light to the Way, guiding this gate that all may prosper, those who guide and are guided, who light the Way and bask in the light so given....Behold, I open a new world." 15:37:35 Please welcome the resurrected tolkien.openprojects.net, a European hub, located somewhere. 15:43:52 -> *lilo* oh, come on, you *have* to tell us where that quote's from. We're just going to explode from anticipation otherwise; there'll be bits of OPN patrons all over the shop, and do you really want to have to live with that? 15:47:44 lilo has said that same phrase before: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&q=%22clavicle+to+worlds+without+number%22 15:49:26 he says it every time a new hub gets added 15:50:58 now I'm very curious. 15:55:39 shut up lilo 15:55:41 K PLZ THX 15:55:56 .google lilo sucks ass 15:55:57 lilo sucks ass: http://www.lilofree.net/lilo-bans-lf.php 15:56:52 different lilo =) 15:57:26 pixel: lilo on OPN is the lilo mentioned on lilofree.net 15:59:39 ah! you're right! 15:59:53 from the URl i thought it was linux lilo. 16:02:54 kensaku (~sam@aule-dhcp63.area.pi.cnr.it) has joined #swhack 16:03:04 did lilo ever respond to your question? 16:03:21 tansaku_italia has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 16:05:06 well, he hasn't said anything on wallops, which is miffing 16:11:02 * redmonk minimizes snak, goes back to work. FWOOOOSH! 16:12:03 hBitsko (~ken@206.101.78.21) has joined #swhack 16:12:18 where's #RESThack?! ;) 16:13:03 ah, the joys of out of context: 16:13:04 [[[ 16:13:04 [12:13] <@Morbus> k. don't make them too crackwhorish though. 16:13:04 [12:13] <@Morbus> i don't want christians kicking my ass ;) 16:13:05 ]]] 16:13:21 I recently had a swift tour of the architectures of several blogging tools, and I must tell you that most are way, way overengineered, and I believe it's largely resolved by RESTful concepts applied at the local programming level 16:22:00 which tools? 16:22:47 this last one was Roller 16:23:02 ah 16:23:33 when you say 'solved' to what are you referring? 16:23:50 er, 'resolved' 16:24:03 kensaku has quit (Connection timed out) 16:27:04 Roller has this really complicated architecture with dozens of classes (and probably an equivalent number of support classes) for each of the major "object types" you'd find in a weblog. seems kinda natural, if you're an OO person, but if they were to simply "unwrap" all of the objects and just make them "resources", they'd cut in half the size of the application and I don't believe they'd lose an ounce of functionality, in fact they may gain a 16:27:05 lot 16:27:39 true; Roller suffers from a malady I like to call "J2EE" 16:27:58 :) 16:29:53 I'm usually more general and call it "OO purism" 16:30:04 yeah, true 16:30:24 it's not a beef with OO, per se, but most OO apps could do well by using more "plain data containers" 16:30:34 yep. 16:34:14 k. time to go to X-Fest. too bad it's too cold :( only should get to 60 today in the Twin Cities 16:35:15 mid-60s tomorrow will be better 16:37:47 bye now 16:37:49 hBitsko has quit ("Leaving") 17:29:08 aaronsw_ (~aaronsw@63.149.73.20) has joined #swhack 17:29:24 aaronsw_ is now known as ASw 17:29:28 xena doesn't work because it depends on Zope which esp hasn't set up yet 17:31:11 well, the backup took too long so i killed it and was gonna go with shrinkwrap but the disk file is screwed up again 17:31:14 so i'm blogging 17:31:27 while it looks for overlapping files 17:31:29 when all else fails, blog 17:31:57 :-) 17:32:09 hm, i can probably check my mail from here 17:34:29 heh, how to read your mail from the command line: 17:34:30 ls | tail | xargs more 17:35:13 I think Frank is trying to be sarcastic, but I actually like his new primer draft 17:46:43 heh: "Using N3 is bad idea. Nobody excpet a few RDF aficionados konws anything about N3. No action and continue to use the current system. 17:46:44 " 17:48:02 heh, heh, i raised 52 issues and so "WG Action: thank him 52 times" 17:48:05 ooh; "Special thanks are due to Aaron Swartz for a very thorough and revealing review of the last call draft. 17:48:28 Gotta run 17:51:07 no! 18:03:53 tav- has quit (carter.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net) 18:05:44 tav- (~tav@host217-36-21-3.in-addr.btopenworld.com) has joined #swhack 18:05:51 tav- has quit (Excess Flood) 18:17:31 Panda? 18:29:35 DeSharq (~markdshar@winnipeg.westgroup.com) has joined #swhack 18:37:15 Hello. 18:51:03 ooh, Steve has the same camera as I do 18:51:36 DESharq: found that the newest version of db is OS X compatible 18:51:46 tav`` (~tav@host217-36-21-3.in-addr.btopenworld.com) has joined #swhack 18:51:54 (at least it includes OS X in it's list of *n*xes) 18:52:03 v. 4.0.x 18:52:17 Asw: which Steve 18:52:25 Steve Jobs, man 18:52:29 * DeSharq mumbles something about never having worked with either 18:52:29 ah 18:52:55 oh well. just thought i'd mention it 18:53:04 * DeSharq nods 18:53:18 * DeSharq nods pleasantly 18:53:27 Heh, he calls them iApps 18:54:40 where are you, ASw? 18:55:06 i'm at home, waiting for my computer to finish fixing this other ocmputer. 18:55:32 but i'm watching the iPod introduction 18:55:38 http://www.apple.com/quicktime/qtv/ipod/ 18:55:48 why are you ramblng on about Steve jobs? 18:55:49 oh 18:55:59 i was like, huh? 18:56:02 heh 19:01:49 "An iBook is really portable but the iPod is *ultra*-portable."