00:00:16 and apparently everyone accessing it whereever would see the same graphs :) 00:00:30 * AaronSw thinks that the time it takes tansaku to switch to python would be paid off by the stuff that we could share 00:01:11 wow, are you reading the logs from last year or something? :-) 00:02:31 wmf (~wmf@cs666868-69.austin.rr.com) has joined #swhack 00:02:45 last week 00:02:57 MorbusIff (morbus@s116.terminal3.totalnetnh.net) has joined #swhack 00:03:13 so much happens on swhack in a week 00:03:58 sbp: any problem with me taking your ampheta css template and modifying it to ship with the next release/ 00:04:09 wow, wmf didn't say "swhack!" 00:04:18 none whatsoever. Share & Enjoy 00:04:20 d'oh! 00:04:46 k. thanks 00:05:27 have y'all seen Joey's latest photos? 00:06:31 the ones at http://kode-fu.com/geek/? 00:06:47 yeah 00:07:45 oh, i missed the old photos 00:08:03 you must read carefully, young padawan 00:09:30 hm, another silent bob ref 00:09:30 woo, new google features 00:09:42 oh? you mean the labs stuff? 00:09:49 yeah 00:11:37 heh: http://labs1.google.com/sets?hl=en&q1=aaron+swartz&q2=&q3=ken+macleod&q4=&q5=&btn=Small+Set+%2815+items+or+fewer%29 00:12:03 heh 00:13:52 hm, my DNS seems to have died again 00:14:21 heh, cool feature 00:15:02 when you put in "Morbus" and "Junk Food" you get "sporks". How delightful 00:15:17 heh, heh. 00:15:23 * AaronSw calls voice search 00:15:55 heh: http://oak.cats.ohiou.edu/~jm703496/spork/images/spork3.gif 00:16:06 via. http://oak.cats.ohiou.edu/~jm703496/spork/ 00:16:46 "finally, now someone can program the aibo to play counter-strike with me and it can replace my 7 year old brother" 00:18:09 kickass, all done with lame db maintenance. 00:18:35 wow, that is so cool! 00:18:45 although it did think "Morbus sporks" was "marcus sports" 00:18:55 Morbus has quit (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 00:19:40 I sense a "Windows: unsafe at any speed" meme coming on 00:19:52 Seth has quit () 00:20:34 I sense a "memeometer" meme coming on 00:21:11 uh oh, your metamemology is sending the memeometer off the scale! 00:21:35 * jillzilla reads scrollback and laughs. I guess google spelling doesn't know Morbus. 00:21:43 heh, metamemology. that's pretty neat 00:21:50 jillzilla: fix that! 00:21:52 In the Morbus realm, sporks are a much heavier presence than sporks! 00:21:57 er: 00:22:03 In the Morbus realm, sporks are a much heavier presence than sports! 00:22:07 Morbus is a perfectly good word. In ln 00:22:15 oh, hi wmf 00:22:33 wmf is just an afterthought. 00:22:53 * wmf pouts 00:23:17 awwww. 00:23:17 wmf needs a cookie! 00:23:54 * jillzilla offers wmf an M&M. 00:23:58 i just un-hid snak, i had not seen. 00:24:03 was not ignoring wmf 00:24:10 look what you started! 00:24:11 so there 00:24:19 hey - enjoy it! 00:28:04 I think we need a swhack band, with me, jill and sbp 00:28:14 and Morbus on the sitar 00:28:33 * MorbusIff twangs 00:29:40 * sbp is quite into open D/E tuning at the moment 00:29:55 GR: dinner 00:30:55 "And she fell in love with the beautiful sitar player" - Moulin Rouge 00:31:09 * MorbusIff ponders. 00:31:31 it's a little hard to imagine AaronSw as a rocker, but I guess it could happen 00:31:54 it could happen. And SCI could go metal 00:32:27 hmm. question. 00:32:36 i have a templates/ directory. in that directory are various subfolders, representing various templates. 00:32:51 if I were going to include plugins to those templates, would I include them in the template subdirectories, or in the root of the template directory? 00:32:58 or somewhere else entirely? 00:33:23 in the actual folders, I would suppose, so that people can distribute them 00:33:32 i'm leaning toward the template/ root but then it'll get messy 00:33:48 (actual folders: viz., the subdirectories) 00:33:53 yeah, but then there'd be a copy of the plugin for each folder. 00:34:08 er... but the plugins would be different, right? 00:34:25 well, say a weather plugin. that should be available to every template. 00:34:35 so have a global plugins folder 00:34:40 but if I shipped twenty templates (unlikely), I'd have twenty copies of the plugin. 00:35:06 so /plugins and /templates? 00:35:23 but then, i'd have to make /plugins/templates and stick them all in there. 00:35:28 cos hell, maybe /plugins/scrapers would exist one day 00:37:15 hmm. 00:37:21 actually, i guess template plugins should be per template directory. 00:37:38 because the templates are visually based, so plugins would have to have their output tweaked for teh temaplte. 00:42:25 eikeon has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 00:47:29 heh: 00:47:30 %shell%> ls -al /dev/burton 00:47:30 brwxrwxrwx 1 root disk 22, 0 Apr 23 1976 /dev/burton 00:48:10 that scared him off! 00:51:07 MorbusIff has quit ("http://www.disobey.com/") 00:55:07 ooh, the google labs logo is so cute 00:55:24 i am totally a rocker 00:58:06 Hmm... what kind of music are you into, anyway? I've only ever really heard you mention the Beatles and SCI 00:58:21 and radiohead 00:58:28 ah, true 00:58:36 i might just have to hook xena up to google glossary 01:00:03 Um... Google Glossary? 01:00:21 ah, got it 01:00:54 pff: "Sorry, there are no definitions for blargh" 01:01:31 Definitions for sbp from the web: 01:01:32 * Spontaneous bacterial peritonitis. SBP consists of the growth of bacteria in ascitic fluid in the abdomen. 01:02:19 oh, how... um... 01:02:45 * jillzilla splurts coffee all over the screen. 01:02:45 ooh, Sorry, there are no definitions for blargh 01:02:52 er... damn clipboard 01:02:58 Standard Benefit Plans 01:03:05 Survivor Benefit Plan 01:03:15 Systolic Blood Pressure 01:03:19 School Breakfast Program 01:03:22 so cheerful, eh? 01:03:24 No, I think you're stuck with the bacterial peritonitis, sbp, at least in my mind. 01:03:31 argh 01:03:41 and why no State Bank of Pakistan? 01:04:00 it seems to have some trouble with encoding... 01:04:20 ooh, Jill is either "a Single engine Nakajima torpedo-bomber" or "An unspayed female ferret" 01:04:23 oh? 01:04:48 stars above! 01:05:10 related phrases: Jack and Jill Off Jill Poke Jack and Jill 01:05:27 Jack and Jill Off? heh, heh, heh 01:05:38 Jill Poke is a phrase? 01:05:55 It's apparently "A log unloading device" 01:06:13 I like that. 01:06:28 oh, glossary is working for you? 01:06:32 I think it should be a verb. "Give it a Jill Poke!" 01:06:41 * jillzilla ices her neck. 01:06:45 to Jill Poke: to unload a log 01:06:50 Yeah, it works but the links on the front page are broken. 01:07:01 ah 01:07:04 stop all this Jillery Pokery and talk straight log! 01:07:05 ooh, it has synonyms 01:07:06 .wn bed 01:07:14 lol @ jillery pokery 01:07:23 sbp> stop all this Jillery Pokery and talk straight log! <--- hee! 01:09:15 mmmmmm...ice... 01:09:36 heh, it reminds me of when Niles' ice melts 01:09:46 what happpens? 01:09:52 well, his ice melts 01:09:56 no! 01:10:33 Argh, my levator scapulae feel like those of my clients who had been in nasty accidents. 01:10:59 aha: http://www.geocities.com/hollywood/derby/3267/421.html 01:11:26 Argh, my Latin is inadequate. I think the plural is levatores scapulaes or levatores scapulares or something. 01:11:32 [[[ 01:11:34 Niles: [taking some ice from the wine cooler.] Ice? 01:11:34 Daphne: Yes, I could use some right now. [she lets it slip down her 01:11:34 gown, she steals a glance at his butt.] Oh yes, that's better. 01:11:34 Where's your piece? 01:11:34 Niles: [in his daze, he doesn't know whether he's in heaven or not:] 01:11:35 It's melted. I'll get another. 01:11:36 ]]] 01:11:52 what's the & encoding for apostrophe? 01:11:58 ' 01:12:04 &singlequotedeely; 01:12:18 odd, my web browser doesn't like that 01:12:21 odd. 01:12:26 odd indeed 01:12:40 you're all freakin odd. what's the suprise? 01:12:47 let's get even 01:12:58 * AaronSw rm's redmonk 01:13:04 redmonk has left #swhack 01:13:11 redmonk (~steve@63.149.73.20) has joined #swhack 01:13:14 stop that! 01:13:15 heh. 01:13:19 heh, heh 01:13:24 good thing i had a recent backup 01:13:43 * redmonk feels like the doctor in Voyager 01:13:44 I walk away for a minute, and look what happens! 01:13:47 backup of what? 01:13:48 hmm, voice search seems a bit broken - I got 154 pages of javascript before I stopped it 01:14:10 deltab, i think it needs a gui browser 01:14:15 it does weird noreloading stuff 01:14:15 sbp: a recent backup of himself? 01:14:19 wmf: a conversation breaks out! 01:14:24 heh, heh 01:14:32 you call this a conversation? 01:15:14 hm, actually voice browser wqorks for me in links 01:15:51 AaronSw: see them new iBooks? 01:15:55 no, where? 01:16:08 aaargh! 01:16:10 Apple announced them today 01:16:22 i hate you, apple! 01:16:22 this is the second time! 01:16:39 rik has quit (carter.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net) 01:16:55 rik (~rik@beware.of.the.little-black-kitty.net) has joined #swhack 01:17:06 that's gotta hurt 01:17:28 just cash in your new one 01:17:49 heh, i can just imagine walking into the apple store and doing that 01:17:55 People who know a lot about whiplash and are very suggestible should never even get IN to cars. 01:18:20 heh 01:18:24 well, as long as you have the receipt... :-0 01:18:28 "BOO!!" 01:18:29 s/:-0/:-)/ 01:18:36 "I have whiplash!" 01:18:51 suggestible? 01:19:29 Google Glossary: squid (n) someone who rides crazier than you do 01:19:45 redmonk: I do have a tiny bit of it. I'm trying to reassure myself that it's not going to last more than a couple of weeks. 01:19:53 Apple's pimping realMyst on the new iBook 01:19:57 Oh, squid! I haven't heard that term in a while. I love that term. 01:20:04 jill:bummer 01:20:20 rm: thanks. ice is helping a lot. 01:20:46 jill:yeah. 01:20:54 jill: good 01:21:39 Homer: Yes, I am the highly suggestible type 01:21:57 sbp: A Homer quote for all occasions! 01:22:12 Homer: Damn right 01:22:22 * jillzilla is pleased to have sbp around. 01:23:21 * jillzilla swallows 800mg of ibuprofen. 01:23:31 heh, I actually enjoyed the last wekk, though 01:23:43 I bet. What did you do? 01:23:49 these logs are so sad. i am going to turn moderation on next time i leave. 01:23:53 heh, it must be so useful being a masseuse :-) 01:23:54 * jillzilla thinks it is good to diverge from routine. 01:24:12 Yes, I learned a lot of useful stuff in massage school. :-) 01:24:19 AaronSw: pfft. 01:24:29 ;-) 01:24:31 just kick-ban people when they get to boring 01:24:34 s/to/too/ 01:24:51 "Oh, naziAaron is in town, everyone change your nicks!" 01:25:10 heh, that sounded like Morbus for a minute 01:25:47 * jillzilla suspects it actually *is* Morbus! 01:26:41 Morb on Vorpal? 01:26:53 * jillzilla does a search on Vorpal. 01:27:38 01:28:48 Woo! My Latin-speaking coworker informed me that the plural of levator scapulae is levatores scapulae. 01:28:56 * jillzilla considers proposing to her colleague. 01:32:08 Paranoid Android on iTunes visualization is so trippy... 01:35:17 Ooh, Stu stopped by. I wanted to ask him what he thought of the Fountainhead. 01:35:25 And a Pattern Language 01:35:35 Argh, must read more. 01:35:55 A Pattern Language is an amazing book. 01:36:00 Hmm, to do by hand or to automate... 01:36:08 * jillzilla ponders. 01:36:28 * jillzilla remembers she has already written a script that can be adapted. Woo. 01:36:43 hm 01:36:55 redmonk has quit (""you people are too smart for me"") 01:37:12 * sbp looks around - what people? 01:37:13 You have a script to read books for you? 01:37:29 No, to generate nonsequiturs. 01:37:36 just to turn the pages, probably. whiplash 01:37:57 Who mentioned nonsequiturs? 01:38:02 chezns? 01:38:03 to generate nonsequiturs? ah, that'll be the reason for the Goodwin Sands 01:38:05 I did. Just now. 01:38:19 chezns does indeed stand for Chez Non Sequitur. 01:38:20 she did, Aaron. it's in the logs too 01:38:38 * jillzilla points at sbp as an eyewitness. 01:38:51 * sbp recieves his kickback 01:39:03 * jillzilla dccs it. 01:39:15 cheers 01:39:25 all right, what kind of illegal activity is going on in here? I want to join in! 01:40:05 feck, we're bantering again 01:40:08 * jillzilla looks innocent. 01:40:18 sbp: NO! Say it ISN'T SO! 01:40:29 What are we dccing? 01:40:41 I'll bet y'all are napsterizing everything that isn't nailed down 01:40:49 * jillzilla napsterizes AaronSw. 01:40:55 No we aren't! 01:41:06 wmf convinced me to meet him in person. He's one of those government agents that solicit children to have sex with them over IRC. 01:41:16 That's why he's so interested in the dccing. 01:41:27 * jillzilla refuses to dcc AaronSw to wmf. 01:41:34 lol 01:41:53 ugh, remove me from these logs, could ya? :-) 01:42:08 I was chatting with drue at codecon, and I mentioned how many people I had met that I had previously known online, and how surprised I was at only experiencing a little bit of meatspace shock. 01:42:19 sbp: You are sullied with banter. 01:42:38 Drue commented that he had never heard the term "meatspace shock" and had used "devirtualization." 01:42:50 jillzilla: well after you stalked me, I guess you shouldn't be shocked at meeting me 01:42:59 I commented that "meatspace shock" was more Anglo-Saxon and therefore cut more to the heart, not one of these sissy latinization things. 01:43:10 wmf: I was horrified, of course. 01:43:56 %shell%> ls -al /dev/burton 01:43:56 brwxrwxrwx 1 root disk 22, 0 Apr 23 1976 /dev/burton 01:44:01 er, no 01:44:13 horrified? I can't imagine why... 01:44:18 Anyway, we talked about the different connotations of "meatspace shock" and "devirtualization," and drue really finished the conversation by saying cheerfully that it depended on the situation. If you got to that hotel room, he said, and the 14-year-old girl you were supposed to be meeting turned out to be Special Agent Johnson, it was definitely...and then we said together, "MEAT SPACE SHOCK!" 01:45:07 jillzilla is now known as Special 01:45:15 Special is now known as SpecialAgentZill 01:45:16 jill is sandro 01:45:19 err Special 01:45:22 heh, that so didn't work 01:45:30 because you and drue know a lot about meeting 14 year olds in hotel rooms? 01:45:31 Argh! 01:45:35 carter.openprojects.net- *** Notice -- Too many nick changes; wait 20 seconds before trying again 01:45:40 * SpecialAgentZill sulks. 01:45:40 mwahaha 01:45:46 SpecialAgentZill is now known as SpcialAgentZilla 01:45:47 * wmf laughs at SpecialAgentZill 01:45:50 * AaronSw sings Secret Agent... Zill! Secret Agent... Zill! 01:46:02 * sbp just sobs 01:46:22 * SpcialAgentZilla laughs. That song so confused me for years. Because I heard "Secret Asian Man" and couldn't figure out WTF he might mean by that. 01:46:28 SpcialAgentZilla is now known as jillzilla 01:46:43 * jillzilla gets to one of the difficult bits of Kid A. 01:46:56 And if you listen, he really does sing "Secret Asian Man". 01:47:00 * wmf sees the bomb and sighs 01:47:07 bomb? 01:47:15 eikeon (~eikeon@jungle.ne.client2.attbi.com) has joined #swhack 01:47:30 OmniWeb sets up you the bomb about once or twice a day 01:48:00 Ah. That bomb. 01:48:30 reminds me of a funny story about one of the first people to crash a Mac. they saw the bomb and ran screaming 01:48:41 * jillzilla is sceptical. 01:48:44 but amused. 01:48:59 sbp has changed the topic to: Eschew Swhack 01:49:01 After a few months, they stayed put screaming. 01:49:04 Poor sbp. 01:49:13 sbp has left #swhack 01:49:19 * jillzilla sighs. 01:50:20 jillzilla has changed the topic to: black clouds of gloom hang above swhack. 01:50:27 the story about a usability test on the mouse is funny too. they didn't tell the subject how the mouse worked to determine whether it was intuitive. the guy just looked at it and said "wtf" 01:50:48 I couldn't figure it out. I hated macs because I couldn't figure out how in hell to use them. 01:54:22 The first mouse, made out of a butter dish, was pretty cool. 01:54:36 er, well, the first Apple mouse thing. 01:54:55 jillzilla has left #swhack 01:56:40 hmm...anyone by chance have any XSL FO references aside from zvon? zvon doesn't tell me what they do, just lists them and their attributes 01:57:47 Hey, where'd jill go? 01:58:03 * syn|ack shrugs 01:58:05 she just left... 01:58:10 I was going to tell her about reading books while riding my bike. 01:58:25 sounds a bit "on the edge" :) 02:07:23 Feel free to send me a copy of the Pi soundtrack too. 02:07:49 Seth (~seth@12-230-243-179.client.attbi.com) has joined #swhack 02:07:55 careful, I hear that Pi soundtrack is dangerous stuff 02:08:39 first it's the Pi soundtrack and before you know it you're selling your organs for your OONTZ habit 02:10:09 Exactly! 02:18:09 * AaronSw puts all sorts of private info in his backblogging since no one will read them 02:27:23 hmm...i need something like
but for XSL FO - would anyone know? 02:32:01 rik has quit (carter.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net) 02:32:29 rik (~rik@beware.of.the.little-black-kitty.net) has joined #swhack 02:32:58 re: Costa Del Backyard 02:33:19 I saw a letter from "King of Prussia, PA" in the New Yorker and thought that the King of Prussia had actually writtn in. 02:34:08 bizarre name for a city 02:34:13 Hi all. Bit more rehubbing of Europe in process. That last bit seems to have been instability in a new hub; I have another hub to test that looks a lot better. 02:36:57 rik has quit (carter.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net) 02:37:20 rik (~rik@beware.of.the.little-black-kitty.net) has joined #swhack 02:38:41 Oops, three out of four down, one was not configured properly. Looks very fast though. 02:39:30 Actually that was two out of three. But I may try a fourth. 02:44:53 3 of 4 seem to be working fine, trying the last one in a sec 02:45:15 rik has quit (carter.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net) 02:45:23 rik (~rik@beware.of.the.little-black-kitty.net) has joined #swhack 02:46:50 Okay, looking good at this point. Expect some instability in European local leaf servers, though, if this hub doesn't work out. We'll keep you posted! 03:04:21 very bizarre name 03:06:11 heh, i have the same experience as rik 03:09:00 Heh, when I was in Montreal all the cab drivers pretended to only speak french. 03:19:28 I got to meet Rael's wife at etcon, and found out he has a child. But I didn't get to meet the child. *pout* 03:30:38 rik reinvents foaf/rdfweb! 03:30:46 ... in XML 03:32:50 GabeW is under the illusion that this channel is about the semantic web 03:33:21 i am so tempted to kill this channel 03:33:48 But instead, I think I will keep off of IRC for a week. 03:33:49 Goodbye/ 03:33:52 err Goodbye. 03:33:55 Laters. 03:55:32 cruzn (gio@203-206-23-145-dial.froggy.com.au) has joined #swhack 03:55:36 cruzn has left #swhack 04:46:05 oierw has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 04:46:08 oierw (~mathew@pcp994425pcs.goosck01.sc.comcast.net) has joined #swhack 05:39:53 * Ash yawns 06:18:29 wmf has quit ("BitchX: the OTHER white meat") 09:28:28 * rik yawns too. 09:30:45 * rik blinks 09:30:55 * rik wonders what experience AaronSw was talking about. 09:47:55 Sounds like he's talking about the "cab drivers pretended to only speak french" 09:49:08 hm. i think he was talking about something during the netsplit. 09:49:37 uhm. 09:49:52 * rik shrugs 09:49:52 could be, especially if you've never had that experience in Montreal. :-) 09:50:05 i've never been to Montreal. 09:51:35 hum. suppose i'd better pounce on something smaller than me for breakfast then 09:52:37 or bigger and very, very slow-moving. 09:53:06 say, a cow.... or a field of wheat. or a refrigerator. :-) 11:04:42 hm 11:04:54 i had a loaf of toast. 11:05:43 yummy ;) 11:07:15 * rik nodnod 11:37:48 pixel (~pixel@ns.bhsi.com) has joined #swhack 11:48:59 pixel_2 (~pixel@ns.bhsi.com) has joined #swhack 11:49:37 pixel_2 has left #swhack 13:41:06 * Seth waves to dettab 13:41:35 * Seth make that Seth waves to deltab 13:48:16 Seth has quit () 14:44:19 gac (~chatzilla@gw.wamsystems.com) has joined #swhack 14:52:11 Morbus (morbus@s105.terminal3.totalnetnh.net) has joined #swhack 14:54:51 gac has quit ("ChatZilla 0.8.7 [Mozilla rv:1.0rc2/20020510]") 15:23:07 MorbusIff (morbus@s122.terminal3.totalnetnh.net) has joined #swhack 15:39:43 Morbus has quit (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 15:47:25 Morbus (morbus@s110.terminal3.totalnetnh.net) has joined #swhack 15:54:12 Seth (~seth@12-230-243-179.client.attbi.com) has joined #swhack 15:55:00 * Seth waves at deltab 16:10:54 MorbusIff has quit (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 16:26:12 Morbus has quit ("http://www.disobey.com/") 16:28:54 doid-lapt has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 16:29:14 doid-desk has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 16:47:42 Seth has quit () 16:52:26 Morbus (~morbus@morbus.totalnetnh.net) has joined #swhack 17:40:36 redmonk (~steve@63.149.73.20) has joined #swhack 17:40:47 yo yo yo 17:42:25 yo. 17:42:44 yo. yo. yo. 17:43:18