IRC log of swhack on 2002-05-20

Timestamps are in UTC.

00:04:15 [wmf]
december 12, 2012. the date set for mobilization of...
00:12:36 [wmf]
looks like the lone gunmen are back for one last time
00:16:28 [Ash]
Oh yeah?
00:16:37 [Ash]
When's the xfiles final episode?
00:17:07 [wmf]
now, in my timezone
00:17:15 [Ash]
I want a copy of all the lone gunmen episodes on dvd.
00:17:28 [Ash]
wmf: Ahh.. it starts at 7PM local time?
00:17:47 [wmf]
yeah
00:18:18 [Ash]
Yeah.. got another 45 mins
00:18:21 [Ash]
did you see them already?
00:18:26 [Ash]
(the lone gunmen, that is)
00:18:34 [wmf]
no, but I saw their names in the opening credits
00:20:21 [wmf]
whoa
00:49:04 [jillium]
jillium (~jill@adsl-64-169-94-12.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net) has joined #swhack
00:49:29 [jillium]
* jillium grins from her new room.
01:00:31 [wmf]
hey jillium
01:00:40 [jillium]
hey, wmf.
01:00:43 [jillium]
I'm moved now.
01:00:48 [wmf]
cool
01:01:27 [wmf]
meanwhile you were blogged: http://wmf.editthispage.com/pictures/viewer$7556
01:01:33 [jillium]
Can't get my ...heavens!
01:01:35 [jillium]
* jillium reads.
01:02:30 [jillium]
well, well, well.
01:05:07 [AaronSw]
* AaronSw waves... congrats!
01:05:26 [jillium]
Hello!
01:10:26 [AaronSw]
Brothers want to go see Star Wars... gotta run
01:10:59 [wmf]
AaronSw is missing the final x-files
01:56:26 [wmf]
"maybe there's hope..."
01:58:53 [sandro]
* sandro gets taguri.org and hawke.org back up, but the files for hawke.org are three years out of date. Can't find anything more recent. If anyone has it in their cache, pls send it to me.
03:09:31 [jillium]
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04:01:33 [wmf]
wmf has quit ("Killed by gemini (Requested by panasync)")
04:48:26 [deltab]
sandro: web.archive.org has hawke.org from sept/oct last year
04:54:59 [AaronSw]
i have some bits of hawke.org
05:00:30 [AaronSw]
* AaronSw mails
05:00:35 [AaronSw]
ooh, kragen did the pythonurl
05:02:04 [AaronSw]
* AaronSw giggles: http://www.ddj.com/documents/s=1712/ddj1021410695833/do200205py002.htm
05:15:01 [AaronSw]
alien invasion?
06:16:08 [Seth]
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06:47:21 [s|a]
http://www.xfront.com/REST.html
06:47:26 [s|a]
interesting powerpoint
07:37:13 [AaronSw]
sleep. laters
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15:13:00 [sbp]
@ http://www.google.com/dilbert.html
15:13:51 [chumpy]
A: http://www.google.com/dilbert.html from sbp
15:13:57 [sbp]
A:|Dilbert and the Google Doodle
15:14:20 [chumpy]
titled item A
15:14:25 [sbp]
A::Scott Adams provides cartoons for the Google Logo. Wow
15:14:42 [chumpy]
commented item A
15:20:40 [Ash]
today sucks
15:20:41 [Ash]
woohoo
15:26:32 [walloper]
<lilo> Hint: Certain channels have been shut down and may result in an automatic KLINE if joined. If someone tells you to join a channel and the name looks a bit funny, ask staff on #openprojects about it rather than joining. Please capture the hostname of the user asking you, we might want to have some words with them. ;)
15:26:53 [sbp]
heh
15:34:31 [walloper]
<lilo> Hi all. Please be aware that if you are running mIRC here, there is a good chance some skript kiddie is about to compromise you. So far we've had about 500 automated klines from this exploit. Please keep an eye out and pass the word on.
15:35:24 [sbp]
OPN is a right bundle of joy today
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17:25:24 [pixel]
morb!
17:29:51 [rik]
meow!
17:30:01 [Morbus]
hey!
17:30:29 [pixel]
hey hey hey! it's fat albert!
17:31:10 [Morbus]
heheh.
17:31:16 [Morbus]
chocolate cake... for breakfast!
17:31:22 [pixel]
hehehehehe
17:31:25 [Morbus]
but maaaaaMmmm, dad made us chocolate cakkekeee.
17:31:29 [Morbus]
whaaa?TTT?T?T?
17:31:39 [Morbus]
i never knew what a canipption was until that day.
17:31:51 [pixel]
I saw cosby last year. live. it was great.
17:31:54 [Morbus]
did you try the alpha?
17:31:57 [Morbus]
cool :)
17:32:05 [AaronSw]
Wow, I slept later than Sean.
17:32:11 [pixel]
yup. tried it. worked quite well!
17:32:19 [Morbus]
i should have an update in a few days.
17:32:24 [pixel]
I need to download it here and see how it goes.
17:32:35 [Morbus]
yeah, there are still some win32 issues.
17:32:42 [Morbus]
did you read that link I sent you?
17:32:46 [pixel]
GUI still horked?
17:32:55 [Morbus]
baically, i quickly changed everything to that package ideal, and it worked enough for release.
17:32:59 [Morbus]
still some minor issues here and there.
17:33:49 [pixel]
what link?
17:34:15 [Morbus]
uh, i sent you an email to a sf mailing list archive
17:35:20 [Morbus]
oh speaking of which, was something wrong with home/music the past few days?
17:35:26 [Morbus]
i've beenhaving a devil of a time getting it on my home machine
17:35:43 [pixel]
oh yeah. got that link.
17:35:53 [lilo]
[GlobalNotice] Hi all. If you've been seeing spambots today, please let us know. Thanks.
17:35:56 [pixel]
really? I haven't seen any problems.
17:36:11 [Morbus]
yeah, i just got it now.
17:36:13 [Morbus]
but before...
17:36:14 [pixel]
hmm.
17:36:29 [pixel]
there haven't been any that I know of, but alot of people have been slurpin off me.
17:36:38 [Morbus]
heheheh.
17:36:46 [pixel]
I think I'm going to put a password on it.
17:37:07 [pixel]
either that, or start "Perceive Music Distribution, LCC"
17:37:15 [pixel]
LCC=LLC.
17:37:52 [AaronSw]
Could you guys at least be clear about what you're talking about?
17:42:24 [Morbus]
hey aaron.
17:42:27 [Morbus]
how's life?
17:42:36 [pixel]
HAHAHA
17:42:41 [AaronSw]
[OLM]
17:42:57 [Morbus]
AaronSw: the alpha of ampheta is out.
17:43:06 [AaronSw]
Cool.
17:43:06 [pixel]
and it's wonderful.
17:43:12 [Morbus]
sw, shucks.
17:43:25 [Morbus]
actually: pixel, if you got five minutes to hack something, this should be easy.
17:43:33 [Morbus]
there's a CPAN module about Weather retrieval.
17:43:37 [pixel]
please! I've been doing monkey work today.
17:43:42 [pixel]
my brain hurts.
17:43:49 [Morbus]
throw that into ampheta/lib/, and write up a quick perl script in index.html that will suck down a user's weather data.
17:43:55 [pixel]
ok.
17:43:58 [Morbus]
that should show a good example of how to use the templates to extend ampheta.
17:44:24 [pixel]
check out: http://weather.boygenius.com/
17:44:31 [pixel]
that's what I use for my website.
17:45:11 [Morbus]
well, ok. that's cool. but I'm looking for something that says "hey, with these new templates, you can do stuff without requiring XML backends".
17:45:18 [pixel]
AHHH. can do.
17:45:24 [Morbus]
silly monkey.
17:45:26 [Morbus]
;)
17:45:47 [pixel]
don't you hate it when I want to find the easier way all teh damn time?
17:46:32 [Morbus]
heheheh.
17:47:11 [pixel]
hmm. lots of weather modules.
17:47:30 [Morbus]
yeah, there's one good one. hold on.
17:47:51 [pixel]
k.
17:48:10 [Morbus]
here: http://cvs.sourceforge.net/cgi-bin/viewcvs.cgi/perlbot/perlbot/Plugins/Misc/Weather/Weather.pm?rev=1.6&content-type=text/vnd.viewcvs-markup
17:48:35 [Morbus]
rip out the good parts. should be pretty easy.
17:50:31 [Morbus]
whoa. google dilbert. awesome.
17:51:32 [pixel]
yeah. pretty cool. all week long.
17:53:06 [pixel]
do you have the latest ampheta in a zip? SF is being REAL slow.
17:53:23 [Morbus]
the 92 ampheta?
17:53:26 [Morbus]
or the alpha?
17:53:36 [Morbus]
the alpha is running off my site.
17:53:46 [pixel]
the alpha.
17:53:53 [pixel]
ah. I thought you put it in CVS.
17:53:59 [pixel]
whats the link?
17:54:12 [Morbus]
no, not yet.
17:54:24 [Morbus]
did you get the ampheta develop messages at SF?
17:54:40 [pixel]
yeah, but they're alll at home :(
17:54:51 [pixel]
my home machine removes the emails from POP.
17:55:39 [pixel]
thanks =)
17:56:49 [pixel]
hmm. what would be REALLY cool is to use the GEO/IP database to determine where they are from their IP, and then get the weather. mmmmmm
17:56:59 [Morbus]
pixel, that won't work.
17:57:05 [Morbus]
a lot of DSL providers don't assign IPs based on location.
17:57:16 [pixel]
hmm. good point.
17:57:18 [Morbus]
but, if you want to try it, have a blast ;)
17:57:23 [pixel]
plus the IP on this machine is a private IP.
17:57:34 [pixel]
hmm.
18:00:50 [AaronSw]
Hm, Norvig's title is now "Director of Search Quality"
18:01:03 [AaronSw]
you know, #amphetadesk is free
18:01:27 [Morbus]
wow. AaronSw's being a bitch today. what happened, AaronSw?
18:01:53 [AaronSw]
I've begun thinking about the horror that lies ahead: reading two weeks of swhack logs.
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18:07:50 [MorbusIff]
ah, so you've decided to become a log nazi now?
18:07:56 [MorbusIff]
i guess we should starting defining topics for swhack again.
18:08:01 [MorbusIff]
^ replay
18:08:16 [AaronSw]
looking at the logs, maybe i should just kill it.
18:08:26 [MorbusIff]
swhack or the logs?
18:09:25 [MorbusIff]
my throat hurts. bah.
18:09:49 [AaronSw]
swhack
18:10:24 [MorbusIff]
what was it's original mission?
18:11:04 [MorbusIff]
MorbusIff is now known as Morbus
18:11:07 [pixel]
it's always hard to keep a channel on-topic.
18:15:22 [AaronSw]
the original mission was a place for me and sbp to hold off-topic conversations
18:15:36 [AaronSw]
Hm, I used to thinking whinging was British spelling for whining, but when I met Jill she actually said whinging.
18:15:39 [Morbus]
oh. so in which case, you should just restrict access, not kill swhack.
18:15:47 [pixel]
hmm. so to get back to it's root, you should kick the rest of us out =)
18:15:51 [AaronSw]
heh
18:15:57 [Morbus]
jinx!
18:16:07 [pixel]
hehe
18:16:13 [AaronSw]
other people were welcome to join in on our conversations
18:16:23 [pixel]
the rest of us could move to #swhack.die.die.die
18:16:25 [Morbus]
Oooh. so, "our" is the operative word.
18:16:28 [Morbus]
bwahahaha.
18:16:31 [AaronSw]
heh
18:16:42 [Morbus]
in which case, people can only chat if its something you're interested in.
18:16:43 [Morbus]
got it.
18:16:45 [AaronSw]
anyway, i have this thing where if i don't read every line of swhack, i must kill the channel.
18:16:56 [pixel]
(anyone remember those newsgroups? are they still around?)
18:17:00 [Morbus]
yeah, they're still around.
18:17:10 [pixel]
cooool.
18:17:42 [Morbus]
pixel: be careful. we're not talking about the original swhack mission. we've gotten off on a tangent. we're dangerously close to being considered a -1 in the logfile.
18:17:46 [Morbus]
we must return to neutrality.
18:17:48 [Morbus]
AaronSw: go on.
18:17:55 [pixel]
so if I cut and pasted say, oh, the complete works of shakespere, you'd be really behind.
18:18:01 [AaronSw]
:-)
18:18:12 [AaronSw]
but OPN would kill you first
18:18:23 [Morbus]
five second sleeps!
18:18:29 [pixel]
not if I pasted each line 3 seconds apart.
18:18:29 [AaronSw]
actually, that's sort of all i had to say, thanks for listening.
18:18:33 [pixel]
JINX.
18:18:35 [pixel]
hehe
18:18:40 [AaronSw]
in which case i would kill you
18:18:40 [Morbus]
oh man.
18:18:41 [Morbus]
<G>
18:18:53 [pixel]
great mins think alike.
18:18:55 [AaronSw]
/msg lilo pixel is a shakespear spamboy
18:18:58 [AaronSw]
err spambot
18:19:07 [pixel]
highly caffinated people can't spell.
18:19:12 [Morbus]
so, AaronSw's killing swhack because it doesnt' interest him anymore.
18:19:17 [pixel]
I think so.
18:19:24 [pixel]
I used to have a channel named #there
18:19:29 [Morbus]
i own #disobey ;)
18:19:37 [pixel]
that way, when you go to the channel, #there you are.
18:19:42 [AaronSw]
Hey, I haven't said I'd kill it yet.
18:19:42 [Morbus]
heh, heh.
18:19:43 [Seth]
aaron, why would you need to read every line of swack ... i dont grok
18:19:50 [bijan]
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18:19:51 [Morbus]
I can grok that, easily.
18:20:02 [Morbus]
its the same reason why i killed netslaves.
18:20:09 [Morbus]
well, sorta.
18:20:14 [pixel]
heheh
18:20:37 [Morbus]
you read every line of everything because it was part of you - it was your baby,.
18:20:54 [Morbus]
when the baby turned into a ratty old kid, of which you had not the love or control you once had, it began to look bleak.
18:20:57 [Seth]
i mean i used to require that i visited every new web site published on yahoo ... gave that up fast
18:20:58 [Morbus]
time to cut the unbilical.
18:22:15 [pixel]
it's coming along. had to reboot a server.
18:22:19 [pixel]
windows of course.
18:22:37 [pixel]
I may be a windows user, but that doesn't mean I like it.
18:23:42 [pixel]
you could even write a script to make sure everything is offlog.
18:25:08 [Morbus]
really?
18:26:44 [pixel]
hmm. I blew up the index.html. heheh
18:30:27 [pixel]
the template deal is very touchy about the placement of [$ and $].
18:32:03 [pixel]
hmm. that's kinda nice.
18:40:50 [jillzilla]
* jillzilla waves.
18:42:07 [AaronSw]
jill!
18:42:47 [AaronSw]
How's the new house?
18:42:57 [AaronSw]
Zucco wouldn't stop reminiscing about it...
18:43:15 [pixel]
.... # pixel's comment has been removed by the "AaronSW auto-comment-removal-thing-a-ma-bob"
18:43:29 [AaronSw]
Heh.
18:46:30 [pixel]
ok,.
18:48:10 [Seth]
/me chuckes over aaron's def of dc:creator = creatorResourceOrSometimesTheNameOfThatResourceButOcassionallySomethingElseEntirely
18:52:33 [Morbus]
"unable to get weather report?" why, you...
18:54:27 [jillzilla]
* jillzilla grins at the idea of Zucco reminiscing about the house.
18:54:35 [jillzilla]
I set up the room totally differently from the way he had it set up.
18:56:08 [jillzilla]
The room is going to be downright cozy! And I moved in on Saturday and there was a dinner party at the house on Sunday. I think I'm going to like living here again.
18:57:57 [Morbus]
* Morbus nods.
19:06:20 [AaronSw]
Sounds great
19:10:15 [sbp]
sbp has changed the topic to: Kill the logs!
19:12:58 [Morbus]
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19:15:48 [pixel]
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19:19:03 [sbp]
sbp has changed the topic to: Warez the beef?
19:20:03 [sbp]
aw... Searched the web for "Warez the beef?". Results 1 - 10 of about 98
19:27:17 [redmonk]
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19:27:32 [redmonk]
*BAMPH*
19:27:33 [redmonk]
* redmonk sppears
19:27:43 [redmonk]
ugh
19:27:46 [redmonk]
* redmonk appears
19:27:56 [redmonk]
gotta work on my entrances
19:27:57 [redmonk]
sup all?
19:28:06 [AaronSw]
Hi.
19:28:18 [redmonk]
hi aaronsw
19:28:22 [AaronSw]
At etcon we were joking that weblogs were the emerging sycophantic web
19:28:29 [redmonk]
lol
19:30:17 [Ash]
lol @ sycophantic web
19:30:28 [Ash]
I don't think this is an "emerging" phenomenon
19:30:34 [Ash]
how long has scripting news been running?
19:30:34 [Ash]
<g>
19:30:37 [redmonk]
heh
19:34:44 [AaronSw]
wow, this google labs thing looks awesome
19:35:58 [redmonk]
URI?
19:36:49 [AaronSw]
http://google.blogspace.com/archives/000264
19:37:29 [redmonk]
cool
19:38:24 [redmonk]
that's sweet
19:38:29 [redmonk]
the sets look cool
19:38:52 [redmonk]
now they need a MetaData Advisor(tm) ;-)
19:39:25 [AaronSw]
mwahaha
19:43:31 [Morbus]
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19:43:39 [Morbus]
yeah, uh, i just got kicked out of #disobey.
19:43:45 [Morbus]
they said this is where I should be "off-topic"
19:43:53 [jillzilla]
Um, Morbus, don't you run...oh, dear.
19:43:55 [Morbus]
tell me, what is this, how do you say, "off-topic"?
19:45:43 [redmonk]
"off-topic"-ness is for the weak-minded, who cannot expand their horizon's to make connections, google-like, between the myriad vastnesses that is the swhack.
19:46:04 [redmonk]
so it is written, so let it be done.
19:46:10 [Morbus]
ahhH. so, I am weak-minded, now.
19:46:15 [Morbus]
uhHH huh.
19:46:19 [Morbus]
its all becoming clearer.
19:47:45 [redmonk]
no, you're not
19:47:55 [Ash]
heh
19:48:28 [Morbus]
i'm still hazy?
19:48:54 [redmonk]
no, you're not off-topic
19:49:09 [redmonk]
those of the swhack are always on-topic, no matter where they are
19:49:20 [redmonk]
swhack is The Topic
19:49:29 [quasi]
* quasi points jillzilla in the direction of http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20020520 - a couple of pietr cola's should get you in orbit ;)
19:49:45 [redmonk]
redmonk has changed the topic to: Swhack *is* The Topic
19:50:19 [Morbus]
redmonk: a new version of amp... ooh. nevermind.
19:50:27 [redmonk]
heh.
19:50:35 [Morbus]
* Morbus cringes beneath the oppresive /k.
19:50:39 [redmonk]
"...And Don't come back!!"
19:50:50 [jillzilla]
* jillzilla laughs at the cartoon quasi pointed to.
19:50:55 [jillzilla]
"Caffeine."
19:50:59 [jillzilla]
"AND?!"
19:51:05 [AaronSw]
.google money
19:51:09 [jillzilla]
"There IS no 'and'."
19:51:12 [Morbus]
hehehe.
19:55:24 [AaronSw]
.rehash
19:55:33 [sbp]
.respawn
19:55:39 [Morbus]
.reannoy
19:56:18 [AaronSw]
.isotime
19:56:18 [xena]
2002-05-20T19:57:15.968673Z
19:56:46 [jillzilla]
* jillzilla prints out that User Friendly to hang up next to the cappuccino machine in the breakroom.
19:57:45 [AaronSw]
.google google breakroom
19:57:45 [xena]
sorry, i'm not feeling well
19:58:09 [Morbus]
awwww.
19:58:11 [AaronSw]
.rehash
19:58:25 [jillzilla]
xena!
20:05:50 [AaronSw]
ugh
20:05:52 [AaronSw]
my airport card seems to have died
20:06:43 [quasi]
.time CEST
20:13:04 [AaronSw]
whoa, looks like google is blocking xena!
20:13:38 [sbp]
oh man, that's chortlariffic
20:14:30 [sbp]
I guess she had it coming
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20:41:22 [AaronSw]
.rehash
20:41:24 [AaronSw]
.google food
20:41:25 [xena]
sorry, i'm not feeling well
20:41:26 [xena]
sorry, i'm not feeling well
20:41:27 [xena]
sorry, i'm not feeling food
20:41:27 [xena]
food: http://www.fda.gov/
20:41:35 [AaronSw]
woo1
20:42:30 [sbp]
wool?
20:42:49 [rik]
furryaaron!
20:43:19 [AaronSw]
.rehash
20:43:32 [AaronSw]
.google to
20:43:32 [xena]
sorry, i'm not feeling well
20:43:33 [xena]
sorry, i'm not feeling well
20:43:34 [xena]
sorry, i'm not feeling to
20:43:35 [xena]
to: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dto%26hl%3Den%26lr%3D%26sa%3DI&q=stocks:TO+
20:44:29 [AaronSw]
.rehash
20:44:33 [AaronSw]
.google f
20:44:34 [xena]
f: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&prev=/search%3Fq%3Df%26hl%3Den%26lr%3D%26sa%3DI&q=stocks:F+
20:44:46 [AaronSw]
.rehash
20:44:48 [AaronSw]
.isotime
20:44:53 [AaronSw]
.google a
20:44:54 [xena]
a: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&prev=/search%3Fq%3Da%26hl%3Den%26lr%3D%26sa%3DI&q=stocks:A+
20:45:04 [AaronSw]
.google a
20:45:05 [xena]
a: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&prev=/search%3Fq%3Da%26hl%3Den%26lr%3D%26sa%3DI&q=stocks:A+
20:45:07 [AaronSw]
.rehash
20:45:10 [AaronSw]
.google netscape
20:45:11 [xena]
netscape: http://www.netscape.com/
20:45:13 [AaronSw]
.isotime
20:46:12 [AaronSw]
well, good enough for me.
20:46:26 [sbp]
.respawn
20:46:49 [sbp]
.jokecrapnessmeter .respawn
20:47:03 [AaronSw]
heh: mail fail
20:48:34 [AaronSw]
oops, my rdf file is malformed.
20:48:40 [AaronSw]
Yoda: How embarassing!
20:51:21 [AaronSw]
anyone know the time est?
20:51:28 [jillzilla]
17:51
20:51:36 [AaronSw]
thanks.
20:51:38 [jillzilla]
np
20:51:42 [AaronSw]
guess i missed that telecon... oh well
20:51:59 [rik]
* rik pounces on jill
20:52:01 [AaronSw]
TimO on the blog grid: "This is fantastic, Aaron! Great idea. (Don't patent it :-)"
20:52:01 [AaronSw]
mwahah
20:52:06 [jillzilla]
hiya, rik.
20:52:13 [rik]
i need you, miss zilla.
20:52:18 [jillzilla]
I am needed!
20:52:22 [rik]
yes
20:52:34 [jillzilla]
Can it wait until I come back with some lunch in about 10-20 minutes?
20:52:35 [rik]
i spent all day stripping, yesterday, and today i am in much muscular pain.
20:52:39 [rik]
uhm
20:52:41 [rik]
suppose.
20:52:41 [jillzilla]
* jillzilla blinks.
20:52:58 [jillzilla]
stripping? Clearly this is a different activity than that which I am picturing.
20:53:03 [rik]
go get lunch, and then i'll explain.
20:53:03 [jillzilla]
* jillzilla supposes stripping paint or some such.
20:53:06 [jillzilla]
brb
20:53:22 [sbp]
hey, no nakedness on swhack
20:53:34 [Morbus]
jillzilla: please take this to #nekkid
20:53:38 [rik]
* rik gyrates at sbp
20:53:44 [sbp]
and no outside food, either. We have to make a profit, y'know
20:53:58 [sbp]
gyrating's allowed, but not at me
20:54:10 [rik]
* rik thrusts, sbpwards.
20:54:20 [sbp]
unless you have an excuse
20:54:31 [sbp]
argh! stop the thrusting!
20:54:32 [AaronSw]
Hm, guess i should have checked my email earlier.
20:54:49 [sbp]
why?
20:55:10 [sbp]
come on, don't leave us hanging
20:56:01 [AaronSw]
well, there was a lot of it
20:56:57 [sbp]
ah. I thought you might have had an invitation to see the president that you had to respond to by an hour ago or something
20:57:05 [sbp]
Gotta run
21:01:30 [jillzilla]
* jillzilla reappears.
21:01:38 [jillzilla]
* jillzilla giggles at rik's gyrations and sbp's shrieks.
21:01:48 [rik]
* rik thrusts at jill
21:01:56 [jillzilla]
* jillzilla shrieks.
21:02:02 [rik]
sbp stylee!
21:02:18 [jillzilla]
I have decided to devoting my life to being as stylish as sbp.
21:02:43 [rik]
okay, but can you devote your afternoon to doing your massage magic on my poor muscles?
21:03:03 [jillzilla]
* jillzilla ponders.
21:03:05 [jillzilla]
Hmmm.
21:03:22 [jillzilla]
* jillzilla wonders if she should mention that massage works much better when there isn't an ocean between giver and receiver...
21:03:23 [rik]
* rik nodnod
21:03:30 [rik]
well
21:03:52 [rik]
while you were asleep, i instuctred Loki to drive many miles to you, kidnap you, put you in a huge envelope and post it to me.
21:04:01 [rik]
but he appears to have not obeyed.
21:04:12 [rik]
i'll get him to post himself to me so i can punish him.
21:04:12 [jillzilla]
couldn't you have instructed him to put me in a box? With air holes? It's stuffy in here.
21:04:21 [rik]
well
21:04:22 [rik]
yeah
21:04:39 [jillzilla]
* jillzilla mutters.
21:05:13 [jillzilla]
* jillzilla changes her address with the USPS.
21:06:00 [rik]
so. stripping.
21:06:02 [rik]
yes
21:06:05 [rik]
it was wallpaper.
21:06:05 [jillzilla]
stripping.
21:06:13 [rik]
and i didn't warm down after excercise.
21:06:19 [jillzilla]
Weren't we to take this to #nekkid? Oh, wait.
21:06:29 [rik]
now i have painful muscles in my back, shoulders and neck.
21:06:39 [jillzilla]
Imagine that.
21:06:51 [rik]
i dno't need to imagine
21:06:54 [rik]
i can feel it
21:07:06 [jillzilla]
"My mind is going, Dave. I can feel it."
21:07:10 [rik]
heh
21:07:14 [Morbus]
jillzilla: please take this to #hal
21:07:20 [rik]
* rik massages jill's brains
21:07:21 [Morbus]
or even #plus1ibm
21:07:46 [jillzilla]
* jillzilla thinks Morbus is at his cutest when he is topic cop.
21:08:00 [jillzilla]
* jillzilla takes it to #randomflirt
21:08:02 [Morbus]
* Morbus loves the encouragement.
21:08:19 [rik]
Morbus: take it to #flattery!
21:08:34 [Morbus]
* Morbus chuckles happily.
21:09:22 [jillzilla]
Argh, too long studying Mandarin...I'm starting to think of soup as something you drink.
21:09:39 [rik]
you do, in english
21:09:41 [rik]
well
21:09:53 [rik]
unless it's my chicken and sweetcorn soup.
21:10:12 [jillzilla]
People drink soup in the UK?
21:10:20 [rik]
yes
21:10:24 [jillzilla]
WHOA.
21:10:39 [rik]
not in glasses, but the act of consuming it is drinking.
21:11:14 [jillzilla]
just like in Mandarin.
21:11:28 [rik]
* rik nods
21:11:42 [rik]
but the act of consuming mandarins is eating.
21:12:13 [jillzilla]
* jillzilla thinks the act of consuming mandarins is highly pleasurable.
21:12:18 [rik]
heh
21:12:42 [Morbus]
from rael, upon hearing the apache #7 sounds I did:
21:12:43 [Morbus]
[[[
21:12:51 [Morbus]
01,9910[17:12] raeldornfest: 01um, you are a seriously strange man
21:12:51 [Morbus]
04[17:13] akaMorbus: 01heheh. thanks. <G>
21:12:51 [Morbus]
10[17:13] raeldornfest: 01running ...
21:12:51 [Morbus]
10[17:13] raeldornfest: 01scared ...01,99
21:12:51 [Morbus]
]]]
21:13:06 [rik]
* rik thinks the act of consuming a slightly yoo large meal, along with copious quantities of drink, and some good friends it more highly pleasureable than just a mandarin
21:13:14 [AaronSw]
ooh, raeler
21:13:23 [rik]
uhm
21:13:28 [rik]
anyone got +o ?
21:14:03 [rik]
if we can have that, without colour codes, we'd be grateful, Morbus.
21:14:12 [Morbus]
rik: blame my IM.
21:14:16 [rik]
some of us have black backgrounds on out terminals.
21:14:17 [Morbus]
its the same as my iRC ;)
21:14:23 [AaronSw]
sans colors:
21:14:24 [AaronSw]
[[[
21:14:25 [AaronSw]
<Morbus> [17:12] raeldornfest: um, you are a seriously strange man
21:14:25 [AaronSw]
<Morbus> [17:13] akaMorbus: heheh. thanks. <G>
21:14:25 [AaronSw]
<Morbus> [17:13] raeldornfest: running ...
21:14:26 [AaronSw]
<Morbus> [17:13] raeldornfest: scared ...
21:14:26 [AaronSw]
]]]
21:14:33 [rik]
* rik nods
21:14:34 [rik]
thanks.
21:14:35 [Morbus]
Apple should release a startup list editor called iRC.
21:14:46 [AaronSw]
heh
21:20:37 [Morbus]
* Morbus hammers out all the Win32 Ampheta bugs.
21:23:30 [rik]
* rik yawns
21:23:36 [rik]
early night, i think.
21:24:32 [rik]
[ detached ]
21:27:30 [Morbus]
AaronSw: i'm not sure how well the RSS 1.0 archival backend is gonna work.
21:27:41 [Morbus]
i was planning on using XML::RSS, but in testing, it proved really slow.
21:28:00 [Morbus]
case in point: my code for 99 rss channels took 10 seconds to display. the xml::rss code took 30 seconds.
21:28:09 [Morbus]
and it compounded the slower your machine got.
21:28:24 [Morbus]
so, i'm hoping that wiriting out doesnt cause the same issue.
21:28:48 [Morbus]
are you around? i wanna talk about the reader: namespace.
21:32:55 [AaronSw]
Yep
21:33:15 [AaronSw]
I can't comment on XML::RSS speed, but I suspect folks wouldn't mind if you rewrote it.
21:36:56 [sbp]
heh @ I have decided to devoting my life to being as stylish as sbp
21:38:46 [AaronSw]
ugh, 404 http://www.alexa.com/company/archival_url.html
21:38:59 [AaronSw]
@ http://web.archive.org/web/20011030220307/www.alexa.com/company/archival_url.html
21:39:41 [chumpy]
B: http://web.archive.org/web/20011030220307/www.alexa.com/company/archival_url.html from AaronSw
21:39:57 [AaronSw]
B:|Alexa Archival URL Specification
21:40:20 [chumpy]
titled item B
21:41:33 [jillzilla]
Oops. I just sent email to the Economist's subscription dept with the subject "change of address for New Yorker subscription".
21:43:12 [AaronSw]
* AaronSw laughs and laughs
21:43:59 [jillzilla]
* jillzilla feels foolish.
21:44:00 [jillzilla]
Bah.
21:44:28 [AaronSw]
Don't worry, it'll work out.
21:44:37 [AaronSw]
They're all part of the liberal media conspiracy.
21:44:53 [jillzilla]
The Economist?
21:45:09 [AaronSw]
* AaronSw laughs. Your subscription is so going to get canceled.
21:45:09 [jillzilla]
* jillzilla giggles at the delicious idea of the Economist as part of the lmc.
21:45:21 [jillzilla]
Noooo! don't take away my subscription!
21:47:07 [AaronSw]
I liked that Talk of the Town piece in the New Yorker saying that the new newspeaper would espouse the views "that except for [three newspapers, four tv shows, 10 radio shows] and the Fox News 24-hour cable network have been ruthlessly squashed by the liberal media establishment."
21:48:28 [jillzilla]
Hehehehe. I think I read that while I was falling asleep, because I only remember the first paragraph.
21:50:50 [sbp]
No reputation without citation
21:54:55 [AaronSw]
Heh, this archive file format is actually pretty clever.
21:55:36 [Morbus]
AaronSw: i'm leaving in five minutes, but a niggling thingy on the reader: namespace in 1.0
21:56:00 [Morbus]
if I had a "reader:seen" attr, what's to stop writers from making them all =1, making readers not see anything from that site?
21:56:45 [AaronSw]
um, writers put up rss files for people to read them
21:56:50 [AaronSw]
so they'd be idiots if they did that
21:57:01 [AaronSw]
it'd be easier not to put up the rss file in the first place ;-)
21:57:16 [Morbus]
say winer hated amphetadesk, and did it to force people to use his readers.
21:57:27 [Morbus]
that's what i'm thinking of: malicious intent.
21:57:30 [AaronSw]
ah. in that case just ignore the reader: values from sites
21:57:58 [AaronSw]
hm, that's sorta hard with your wget method isn't it. maybe you could download, parse, delete reader: values, save
21:57:59 [Morbus]
yeah, but then you'd have to create a filtering thing. like "anything from winer, ignore reader:seen".
21:58:23 [AaronSw]
because you have to add in the reader: values when you get a new version, right? so it shouldn't be hrd
21:58:50 [Morbus]
yeah, that would make sense.
21:59:01 [Morbus]
ignore outside incoming, since reader: is specific to internal.
21:59:12 [Morbus]
mmaky. that'd work.
21:59:30 [Morbus]
Morbus has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer))
22:08:12 [AaronSw]
anyone know how to get the IP of th emachine form pythnn?
22:11:41 [jillzilla]
I think you have to make an os call.
22:12:51 [jillzilla]
At Evil Geniuses, we had OS-specific code to do it. It was annoying.
22:13:10 [jillzilla]
But if you find a better way, let me know!
22:13:26 [AaronSw]
Will do.
22:15:11 [AaronSw]
Maybe you can open a socket and ask it or something...
22:15:37 [jillzilla]
in Windows, I think we made a call to the registry and got the IP addresses of the machine from there.
22:15:47 [jillzilla]
I didn't write that one. I think I wrote a BSD one...
22:15:54 [sbp]
socket.getfqdn()
22:16:09 [jillzilla]
Ooooh.
22:17:14 [AaronSw]
socket.gethostname()
22:17:29 [AaronSw]
but that doesn't really work on my machine
22:17:51 [sbp]
for numeric: socket.gethostbyname(socket.gethostname())
22:18:52 [AaronSw]
that doesn't work on my machine cuz my hostname is invalid
22:19:02 [AaronSw]
or at least fake
22:25:07 [redmonk]
[[[
22:25:12 [redmonk]
[3:12] <nickshanks> my G3 350 would slay your 1.6 GHz G4
22:25:13 [redmonk]
]]]
22:25:18 [redmonk]
wtf? ;-)
22:25:36 [redmonk]
from #macdev
22:25:58 [lelly]
lelly (lelly@modem-1238.orangutan.dialup.pol.co.uk) has joined #swhack
22:26:12 [sbp]
hey Phil
22:26:32 [sbp]
we're just talking about trippy maccies
22:26:45 [AaronSw]
who is this "phil"?
22:26:49 [sbp]
well, redmonk's talking, and we're pointing and giggling
22:26:54 [sbp]
lelly
22:27:02 [AaronSw]
who is this "lelly"?
22:27:10 [lelly]
howdy! i will make a brief appearance due to a fucking hard essay that has to be in tomorrow
22:27:23 [Morbus]
Morbus (morbus@s102.terminal3.totalnetnh.net) has joined #swhack
22:27:33 [sbp]
whee!
22:27:36 [sbp]
it's happening!
22:27:44 [sbp]
lelly and Morbus on the same channel
22:27:47 [lelly]
sounds very confusing as most things on here are especially for a person who is become increasing unstable by the day
22:28:25 [sbp]
indeed
22:28:48 [Morbus]
lelly?
22:28:50 [Morbus]
who the frel is lelly?
22:29:24 [redmonk]
mmmm, CSI:Miami
22:29:30 [lelly]
thats for you to find out
22:29:49 [Morbus]
.google philip lelliott
22:30:23 [sbp]
xena's borked still
22:30:37 [Morbus]
argh
22:30:44 [AaronSw]
huh?
22:30:46 [AaronSw]
it worked a minute ago
22:30:50 [AaronSw]
.google philip lelliott
22:31:11 [Morbus]
AaronSw probably filtered me.
22:31:18 [lelly]
im guessing you are all talking privately to sbp about who i am
22:31:32 [AaronSw]
.isotime
22:31:36 [Morbus]
no0pe, not yet.
22:31:41 [AaronSw]
heh, this "Listen to this!" is hilarious!
22:31:41 [Morbus]
but i'm assuming you know each other due to sbp's intro, and your rdns.
22:31:50 [JC]
JC (~l8@ANice-102-1-2-195.abo.wanadoo.fr) has joined #swhack
22:31:55 [JC]
hi
22:32:19 [sbp]
ugh, now I've made Morbus "assume" stuff
22:32:49 [Morbus]
thats right.
22:32:55 [Morbus]
and when i assume, i make an ass out of u and me
22:33:05 [lelly]
yes we do from a long time ago when we where at school
22:33:22 [AaronSw]
"many of the nominees here tonight illegally downloaded 3.6 million songs"
22:33:37 [sbp]
Aaron: reference?
22:33:41 [AaronSw]
listen_to_this.mp3
22:33:46 [Morbus]
tongiht?
22:33:46 [AaronSw]
i'm looking for where i got it.
22:33:56 [sbp]
ugh. this citelessness impunity... gah
22:34:02 [AaronSw]
"support the artistic community by only downloading your music from the net"
22:34:02 [AaronSw]
http://www.chaozation.com/~cameron/listen_to_this.mp3
22:34:05 [AaronSw]
it's really good
22:34:20 [sbp]
how big is it?
22:34:25 [Morbus]
oh, i was thinking of a funny slogan for amphetadesk.
22:34:32 [AaronSw]
not too big... 2379569
22:34:51 [JC]
someone for trading sploits ?
22:34:54 [Morbus]
about seven inches, nothing major.
22:34:54 [Morbus]
oh. uh. nevermind.
22:34:57 [AaronSw]
it's really hood
22:35:06 [Morbus]
bwahahaha
22:35:21 [sbp]
lol
22:35:55 [AaronSw]
"a lot of you have seen pictures of illegally downloaded kids" - http://www.angelfire.com/rebellion/jarmo/greenecutup.mp3
22:35:57 [AaronSw]
lol
22:36:11 [AaronSw]
oops, that one was http://www.infierno.co.uk/riaa.mp3
22:36:20 [sbp]
where on Earth is he pulling these from?
22:36:36 [AaronSw]
"support our artisitic community by only downloading your kids from legal websites"
22:36:40 [AaronSw]
these are great
22:36:47 [AaronSw]
they're from NTK
22:37:37 [AaronSw]
"the riaa is the most insidious virus"
22:37:57 [AaronSw]
"artists are insared in this web of theft and indifference"
22:38:08 [AaronSw]
"this problem will require millions of computer users to download as many files as possible"
22:45:42 [Morbus]
huh. neat.
22:45:47 [Morbus]
rhubarb juice, when left to dry, turns from red to purple.
22:46:21 [AaronSw]
"that will ensure our riches reach even higher"
22:48:40 [sbp]
same with red cabbage, I think
22:50:38 [Morbus]
i'll get some this weekend and try it.
22:52:48 [JC]
trading /* 73501867 - x86/linux mod_php v4.0.2rc1-v4.0.5 remote exploit
22:55:25 [Morbus]
oh hey, I didn't know this.
22:55:38 [Morbus]
if a proposal is accepted, they pay up to $500 airfare from the east coast.
22:55:57 [Morbus]
JC: not interested. wrong room.
22:56:18 [JC]
ok thx Morbus
22:56:20 [JC]
bye
22:56:28 [JC]
JC has left #swhack
22:56:33 [Morbus]
ciao
22:57:02 [AaronSw]
"you tuned in tonight because you're passionate about glimpses of code back stage"
22:57:27 [AaronSw]
http://sands.yoz.com/mp3/Yoz%20-%20Ripping%20Kids%20of%20Death.mp3
22:57:52 [AaronSw]
"the most unbridled ripping of kids backstage"
22:58:04 [AaronSw]
this is really ironic
23:03:29 [lelly]
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23:03:43 [sbp]
now look what you've done!
23:04:54 [sbp]
people leaving left right and center. we'll be down to 20, soon
23:04:57 [AaronSw]
.rehash
23:05:54 [jillzilla]
* jillzilla is rehashed. Ow!
23:06:02 [jillzilla]
* jillzilla glares at AaronSw.
23:06:08 [sbp]
"oh no man, I haven't got the time-time"
23:06:09 [AaronSw]
Heh.
23:08:39 [redmonk-fire]
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23:08:52 [jillzilla]
* jillzilla throws water on redmonk.
23:09:00 [jillzilla]
* jillzilla tells redmonk to stop, drop, and roll.
23:09:07 [jillzilla]
We'll put it out!
23:09:17 [redmonk-fire]
* redmonk-fire this is a test
23:09:19 [redmonk-fire]
* redmonk-fire hey!
23:09:21 [redmonk-fire]
* redmonk-fire hey now
23:09:25 [redmonk-fire]
* redmonk-fire ugh.
23:09:29 [redmonk-fire]
* redmonk-fire lag
23:09:33 [redmonk-fire]
* redmonk-fire i hate la
23:09:35 [redmonk-fire]
* redmonk-fire g
23:09:46 [redmonk-fire]
* redmonk-fire but i love fa, so, and ti
23:09:47 [AaronSw]
who killed now that's abuse of /me
23:10:03 [Morbus]
* Morbus peers at Redmonk.
23:10:03 [redmonk]
sorry
23:10:05 [jillzilla]
Abuse of /me!
23:10:12 [redmonk]
Looks like a bug in Fire.app
23:10:16 [AaronSw]
does that mean the doBook is next?
23:10:19 [redmonk]
i was testing it's irc support
23:10:39 [redmonk]
* redmonk apologizes for blatant /me abuse
23:11:13 [redmonk-fire]
redmonk-fire has left #swhack
23:11:15 [Morbus]
bwahahha:
23:11:15 [Morbus]
[[[
23:11:15 [Morbus]
Targets 1.7 (Freeware - 05/17/2002)
23:11:15 [Morbus]
18 assorted high quality shooting targets in pdf format
23:11:15 [Morbus]
http://www.versiontracker.com/moreinfo.fcgi?id=4392&db=mac
23:11:15 [Morbus]
]]]
23:11:28 [redmonk]
someone tell esr
23:11:51 [Morbus]
oh? is he one of them?
23:12:15 [redmonk]
cf http://armedndangerous.blogspot.com/
23:12:25 [AaronSw]
I hate it when people put up BNFs with out associated semantics.
23:12:33 [redmonk]
lol @ "worldwide, the teachers want the students to learn abstinence, but what the students want to learn is technique."
23:12:50 [redmonk]
at above uri
23:14:17 [redmonk-fire]
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23:14:54 [redmonk-fire]
another test
23:14:56 [redmonk-fire]
lag sucks
23:14:59 [redmonk-fire]
stupid Fire.app
23:15:03 [redmonk-fire]
argh
23:15:24 [redmonk-fire]
ah. looks like it's perhaps only the first fewe that lag?
23:15:27 [redmonk-fire]
yep
23:15:27 [Morbus]
yeah, fire.app sucks for irc.
23:15:30 [redmonk-fire]
interesting
23:15:33 [redmonk-fire]
yeah
23:22:22 [redmonk-fire]
redmonk-fire has left #swhack
23:25:58 [redmonk]
good riddance
23:42:29 [Ash]
/msg jillzilla Alright, I won't tell anyone else about time.google.com
23:42:31 [Ash]
oops
23:42:52 [jillzilla]
Ash: ARGH!
23:42:58 [Ash]
DOH
23:43:02 [Ash]
sorry jz :(
23:45:03 [Morbus]
* Morbus preps some tea for his sore throat.
23:45:08 [Morbus]
heh, heh
23:45:27 [AaronSw]
Wow, so the W3C server actually went down in the middle of Tim's talk. Incredible!
23:46:45 [Ash]
hehe
23:46:50 [Ash]
AaronSw: It's all a conspiracy.
23:48:32 [Morbus]
who watched the final xfiles last night?
23:48:41 [AaronSw]
jillzilla, what do you mean by "if you're going to run a laptop as a desktop machine, you take the battery out to avoid castrating it."
23:48:43 [AaronSw]
?
23:49:18 [Ash]
AaronSw: If you leave the battery in a plugged in laptop for an overly long period of time, you kill the battery.
23:49:30 [Ash]
i.e. if your laptop is plugged in all the time
23:49:40 [AaronSw]
really? i've never had that problem
23:49:48 [AaronSw]
maybe macs are just cooler than that
23:50:01 [AaronSw]
how long is an overly long period of time?
23:51:18 [Morbus]
* Morbus lets his tea steep
23:51:50 [AaronSw]
* AaronSw explodes laughing at <chumpette> _:1klahq <http://www.nraughr.org/asdjk#adfjk#bubba> "nargle"
23:52:23 [sbp]
heh, that was jilly at her finest
23:56:02 [Seth]
Seth waves to deltab .. it works:) .. see http://robustai.net/mentography/httpBot.py
23:57:30 [Ash]
Morbus: I watched xfiles.
23:57:45 [Ash]
AaronSw: A year or so, I would imagine.
23:57:50 [sbp]
Seth: so if the server folds, you lose the bot?
23:57:53 [Ash]
Possibly quicker if your battery is crap.
23:58:06 [Ash]
* Ash runs off to fix his database
23:58:06 [Ash]
brb
23:58:06 [AaronSw]
ah, ok, haven't done it for that long.
23:58:23 [Seth]
well you would loose that instantiation of the bot
23:58:53 [Seth]
but when the bot is backed up with a persistent mysql server, you would only loose what was not written to the db
23:59:28 [Ash]
"Dave Winer" <dave@userland.com> writes:
23:59:28 [Ash]
> Got a couple million bucks? You can afford to have an opinion about this
23:59:29 [Ash]
> then. Dave
23:59:40 [Seth]
so while the server is up, you also get the transitory fast internal memory