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What's up? 06:19:13 [This message is step 1 of Aaron's Dead Man Switch. The next step is to attempt communication via email.] 06:19:26 * AaronSw sends email 06:48:57 @ http://vitanuova.loyalty.org/2002-05-16.html 06:49:32 A: http://vitanuova.loyalty.org/2002-05-16.html from AaronSw 06:51:09 A:|Seuss on Copyright 06:51:19 -- 06:51:19 (Would you rise to defend fair use? 06:51:19 Would you fight copyright abuse?) 06:51:20 I would rise to defend fair use! 06:51:20 I would fight copyright abuse! 06:51:20 I would fight, before it's too late, 06:51:22 for my right to demodulate! 06:51:24 I would fight the BPDG 06:51:26 to keep TV receivers free 06:51:27 titled item A 06:51:28 of mandates by the FCC! 06:51:30 -- 07:19:12 @ http://www.aaronsw.com/2002/diff 07:19:38 B: http://www.aaronsw.com/2002/diff from AaronSw 07:19:59 B:|HTML Diff: Find the differences between two HTML pages 07:20:00 B::I had to take out most of the fancy stuff. Feel free to send me comments on the output or the [source|http://www.aaronsw.com/2002/diff.py]. 07:20:15 titled item B 07:20:26 B::The [example|http://www.aaronsw.com/2002/diff?new=http%3A%2F%2Fdev.w3.org%2Fcvsweb%2F%7Echeckout%7E%2F2000%2F10%2Fswap%2FOverview.html%3Frev%3D1.35%26content-type%3Dtext%2Fhtml&old=http%3A%2F%2Fdev.w3.org%2Fcvsweb%2F%7Echeckout%7E%2F2000%2F10%2Fswap%2FOverview.html%3Frev%3D1.20%26content-type%3Dtext%2Fhtml] is somewhat broken. It keeps repeating a bunch of stuff over and over. Not sure why. Let me know if you know why. 07:20:32 commented item B 07:20:49 commented item B 07:21:05 OK, off to sleep. laters. 07:23:56 s|a has quit ("[x]chat") 07:27:22 nebridius (h@adsl-67-36-191-163.dsl.chcgil.ameritech.net) has joined #swhack 10:27:40 jeremiah has quit (Remote closed the connection) 10:43:36 rik has quit (carter.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net) 10:43:37 doid-desk has quit (carter.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net) 10:43:37 sandro has quit (carter.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net) 10:43:38 deltab has quit (carter.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net) 10:43:38 eikeon has quit (carter.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net) 10:43:39 nebridius has quit (carter.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net) 10:43:39 doid-lapt has quit (carter.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net) 10:43:39 syn|ack has quit (carter.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net) 10:43:39 oierw|sleep has quit (carter.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net) 10:43:39 Ash has quit (carter.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net) 10:43:40 tav- has quit (carter.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net) 10:43:51 nebridius (h@adsl-67-36-191-163.dsl.chcgil.ameritech.net) has joined #swhack 10:43:51 doid-desk (maurice@host217-39-68-14.in-addr.btopenworld.com) has joined #swhack 10:43:51 sandro (~sandro@tux.w3.org) has joined #swhack 10:43:51 rik (~rik@beware.of.the.little-black-kitty.net) has joined #swhack 10:43:51 eikeon (~eikeon@jungle.ne.client2.attbi.com) has joined #swhack 10:43:51 doid-lapt (~besirc@host217-39-68-14.in-addr.btopenworld.com) has joined #swhack 10:43:51 tav- (tav@host217-36-21-3.in-addr.btopenworld.com) has joined #swhack 10:43:51 deltab (~deltab@216.234.235.21) has joined #swhack 10:43:51 syn|ack (~glova@kaniere.alchemy.co.nz) has joined #swhack 10:43:51 oierw|sleep (~mathew@pcp994425pcs.goosck01.sc.comcast.net) has joined #swhack 10:43:51 Ash (~amathews@166.70.45.199) has joined #swhack 12:54:31 oierw|sleep is now known as oierw 14:01:14 justme (~justme@p4286.vwr.wanadoo.nl) has joined #swhack 14:18:45 Seth (~seth@12-230-243-179.client.attbi.com) has joined #swhack 15:15:08 @ http://www.linuxinstallday.org 15:16:01 C: http://www.linuxinstallday.org from doid-lapt 15:16:50 C:|Linux Install Day 2002 15:17:09 titled item C 15:17:57 C::Tomorrow! Debian and FreeBSD for me, probably all week though. 15:18:17 commented item C 15:36:12 Kham (kmnguyen@alpha3.csd.uwm.edu) has joined #swhack 15:44:43 justme has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 16:37:13 justme (~justme@p5245.vwr.wanadoo.nl) has joined #swhack 17:15:54 Seth has quit () 17:19:46 jillium (~jill@dsl092-186-227.sfo2.dsl.speakeasy.net) has joined #swhack 17:29:14 justme has quit (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 18:26:54 justme (~justme@p5598.vwr.wanadoo.nl) has joined #swhack 19:45:44 jillium has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 20:27:53 justme_ (~justme@rot2-p2812.dial.wanadoo.nl) has joined #swhack 20:46:29 justme has quit (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 20:47:06 lelly (lelly@modem-1443.porcupine.dialup.pol.co.uk) has joined #swhack 20:49:00 lelly has left #swhack 20:49:39 lelly (lelly@modem-1443.porcupine.dialup.pol.co.uk) has joined #swhack 20:51:38 could anyone please tell me what et, ut, ft and ct mean? 20:52:04 where? 20:52:24 Kham has quit (Remote closed the connection) 20:52:31 oh 20:53:06 Phiiiiiiiiil! 20:54:08 * sbp waves 20:54:44 u cant do that with sean or sarah! so the insane kid wont even bother yet it makes u sound slightly gay saying phil in such a strange manner 20:55:21 I suppose, but I didn't sign the contract 20:55:35 freeserve's crap but at least ive about two months of trying im finally here 20:55:49 does it cut you off after a certain amount of time or anything? 20:56:28 remember this is not a phone conversation and the whole world will be able to hear about my peculiar life 20:56:36 bwahahaha 20:56:54 oh man, this is going to be so totally bitchcakes 20:57:05 I can't wait till Morbus comes in on Monday 20:57:14 it will cut me off after 5 mins if i dont do anything 20:57:19 when you meet Morbus there's going to be some kind of insanity explosion or something 20:57:33 i need to learn 2 type faster 20:57:38 nah 20:58:33 it makes things easier that txt was from rabbit girl herself 20:58:49 heh, heh. what did she have to say? 20:59:42 BTW, the logs are at http://blogspace.com/swhack/chatlogs/ 20:59:50 if you look at the bottom of http://blogspace.com/swhack/chatlogs/2002-05-18.txt 20:59:56 you'll find this conversation 21:00:21 thank u 4 walking her and that some girl brought her a drink very boring txt 21:00:24 logster (in the namelist, at the right) is the bot that logs the stuff 21:00:46 Hmm... why did you walk her all hat way again? 21:00:50 s/hat/that/ 21:01:00 * sbp learns to type 21:01:34 cos i was bored! ure never learn 2 type where is everybody else? 21:01:56 it's a Saturday! it's contemplation day on Swhack 21:02:06 this is quicker than shitty msn# 21:02:07 we all contemplate how screwed up we are :-) 21:02:22 yep, and I should hope so 21:03:11 i want to speak 2 kham even though my one is spelt kam 21:03:19 quick description of some of the people in here: Ash: sysadmin from Utah; bijan PhD student from the east coast; deltab: sysadmin for some group; doid: dunno 21:03:40 eikeon: dunno; jillzilla: sysadmin for Google; justme_: dunno; lelly: that'll be you 21:03:55 er... I think that nebridius is Ben Swartz, Aaron's brother, but I'm not sure 21:04:12 oierw is some programming guy that I know little about 21:04:16 PhD student from the east coast? 21:04:26 yeah, something like that 21:04:44 i will describe myself: u may have 2 wait a few seconds 21:04:58 rik's a cat, sandro works for the World Wide Web Consortium, I'm me, and... oh, hey, tav's here. tav's an espian 21:05:02 sure 21:05:18 you're drifting into txtspk, BTW :-) 21:06:00 xena (one of the bots) usually does little utility things such as telling us the time and performing Google searches 21:06:17 but for some reason she's totally borked lately. Espra have been having... um... "problems" with their servers 21:07:25 as I say, not much activity today since it's a Saturday, although yesterday was quite busy 21:07:48 howdy swhacjk users: i am theoritically insane! i hate almost everyone! have a very peculiar love life! brought to swhack by youre very own sbp! and my claim to fame is that i can hit a golf ball backwards 21:07:58 lol 21:08:19 I think you're more than theoretically insane, Phil 21:08:34 i will try and stop using txt talk its just easier 21:08:51 you might wanna use a few more full stops too :-) 21:09:00 but fine, be a big xoot, see if we care 21:09:03 i havent been taken away by the men in white coats yet 21:09:10 it's only a matter of time 21:09:18 * sbp looks over his shoulder 21:09:51 fuck full stops! remember im a 1 finger typer..............! 21:10:11 A *very* peculiar love life, indeed. 21:10:15 1 finger? oh man 21:10:38 heh, in love life terms, Phil's right up there with Troy McClure 21:10:48 ooh, it's SwhackFAQ time. read this: http://infomesh.net/2002/swhackfaq/ 21:10:50 every last word 21:11:01 Not the ones that come first? 21:11:17 al. 21:11:24 idiot 21:11:26 by peculiar i meaN I Hhave some very weird relationshipps or lack of them as at present 21:11:30 career 21:11:40 well, this is making *some* sense, which is more than usual. 21:11:55 * sbp searches for his sense-o-meter :-) 21:12:11 and i cant spell tonight! been a long day 21:12:42 and sean shags sheep 21:12:46 hey! 21:12:55 he has done since an early age 21:13:00 nice bit of aliteration, though 21:13:07 * bijan didn't want to know. 21:13:30 we need a rafter to hang people from when they abuse the #, I think 21:13:51 hola, that's odd 21:14:00 there's nothing about respecting the "#" in the Swhack FAQ 21:14:27 ugh, what an idiot. that's the first thing that I should have put in there 21:14:46 as far as i am aware although i havent seen him for about a year, he's a normal heterosexual man well at least heterosexual! i wouldn't say normal 21:15:09 has it really been a year? 21:15:36 anyway, yes, I'm not at all partial to sheep 21:16:01 ooh, fireworks, brb 21:16:14 july me think! had just started going out with with miss.pritchard 21:16:38 fuck, was it really that long ago? 21:17:33 on second thoughts it was sept 11th! weird things always happen when we go out and we only went to play pool 21:17:54 oh, yes, you're right. heh, we really should have cancelled that game 21:19:02 well we didn't exactly believe the phone call! you won as well if i recall 21:19:31 yeah, best two out of three 21:19:50 we should have asked the barmaid to turn the T.V. on 21:20:20 gah, I was recording when you phoned - there's no more bloody time left for that now 21:20:21 when i come back from university i beat you! probably be a nuclear war that time though 21:20:35 perhaps we'll just play one game next time :-) 21:20:47 when are going to be back next? 21:20:56 not sure if thats safe 21:21:25 * sbp is reminded of "101 interesting things to do with pool balls" 21:22:19 yes. sticking them up a girl's vagina is slightly interesting but very peculiar. i read such classy papers 21:22:48 for 10p, how can you say no? 21:23:20 you cant! i have to be at work in 8 hours thats just unfair 21:23:28 largh 21:23:33 s/largh/blargh/ 21:23:54 will her Pritchard-ness be there? 21:24:32 who cares! i am unlikely to meet any of these people! more than likely! she's a tragic girl 21:25:08 only since she started going out with you though, I notice. zing! 21:25:31 vvvvvvvvvvvvvvvv true 21:25:51 justme__ (justme@rot2-p2812.dial.wanadoo.nl) has joined #swhack 21:26:25 just put my quality on! n-sync and nelly!!!! 21:26:28 Aaron is so going to kick my butt for these logs 21:26:39 then again, they're not much better than the previous week's 21:26:45 heh, go nelly 21:27:04 I'm surprised you haven't played the new song over the phone yet 21:27:25 in fact, rarely a phone call goes by when I don't hear nelly in the background 21:27:55 no it means very! especially because i listen to it about a billion times a day 21:28:20 * sandro is gradually learning the difference between swhack and rdfig. 21:28:21 didn't justme just join? 21:28:27 * sbp chuckles 21:28:44 no, that's an extra _ 21:29:17 er, yes. Oh, I don't know. you've been on swhack five minutes and alredy you're driving me nuts 21:29:21 im very confused as per usual 21:29:27 likewise 21:29:52 i blame you! you destroyed my saneness 21:30:11 Now *that's* a lie. 21:30:14 Clearly. 21:30:21 sandro: the difference between swhack and rdfig is that this channel is primarily for any off-topic discussion you can possibly think of. We *do* talk about the Semantic Web from time to time, though... 21:30:45 Semweb is always offtopic everywhere. 21:30:56 although last week swhack has been the all-singing, all-dancing Ampetadesk development channel 21:30:59 Ah. I use a channel of my non-work-related friends for that, mostly. 21:31:02 the semantic web is v confusing for a politics student 21:31:04 Which is why TM folks Just Don't Get it. 21:31:17 Phil: it's very confusing for everyone! :-) 21:31:22 We need *off-topic* maps 21:31:27 heh, heh, heh 21:31:28 offtopic -> TM folks don't get it.... I get it. 21:31:36 heh. 21:31:49 tm? 21:31:55 TM == Topic Maps 21:31:56 And if you didn't, I would explain it. 21:31:59 .google Topic Maps 21:32:01 Over and over and over and over again. 21:32:06 argh, freaking xena 21:32:06 And more, even. 21:32:07 Hey, Bijan, is JimH going to be sending you to some conferences and stuff soon? 21:32:24 here we go: http://www.topicmaps.org/ 21:32:39 prolly. 21:32:53 Depends on what I'm doing and what our travel budget is. 21:32:58 Cool. I hope I get to go to some more some day. Maybe Extreme Markup. 21:33:07 And how desperately he doesn't want to travel :) 21:33:27 "This specification provides a model and grammar for representing the structure of information resources used to define topics, and the associations (relationships) between topics." - http://www.topicmaps.org/xtm/index.html 21:33:29 * bijan will get all the conferences jim thinks he should go to but really doesn't want to. 21:33:39 E.g., "Semantic Hair Design" 21:33:49 "Extreme(ly tedious) Markup" 21:34:00 heh, the latter sounds good 21:34:02 "Even professional philosophers fall asleep at this conference" conference. 21:34:23 "Ontologies for the Working Anal retentive" 21:34:37 Is "anal retentive" hyphanated? 21:34:38 :) 21:34:41 lol 21:34:57 (Stolen from Alison bechtal :)) 21:40:19 and everyone goes quite! 21:40:55 and you have a fair few of them 21:42:16 i intended to write that on-log 21:42:34 just because im a novice 21:42:44 justme_ has quit (Connection timed out) 21:42:45 pff, novice 21:43:16 demented street person! wait a minute 21:44:31 true but im a lazy fucker and trying to write txts messages and do this at the same time is difficult 21:44:32 \topic "Repeal the hash!" 21:45:02 it's one character! 21:45:58 and its very rare that you dont get something 21:46:26 * sbp can *so* feel a message to ChanServ coming on :-) 21:47:02 I tend to avoid conversations that I don't get. not good for the Universe 21:47:26 thats enough from me for a night! but i will b back 21:47:44 come back on Monday when Morb's around :-) 21:48:30 will do but may be quite late! will probably have to go out to see my adoring fans 21:48:51 heh, if you drifted into "TEH ASH" speak for a minute, it would be fairly difficult to tell you and Ash apart 21:49:15 * sbp imagines hundreds of people caming outside Phil's door 21:49:21 s/cam/camp/ 21:49:49 heh, the more I think about that typo, the funnier it becomes 21:50:06 unfortunately not! just a dream of mine! like the one for world domination 21:50:12 (for reasons that won't be apparent to any log readers) 21:50:28 I think that's more of a plan than a dream 21:50:51 true! later swhack is quality 21:51:10 you haven't seen the half of it yet. c'ya 21:51:15 lelly has left #swhack 21:51:32 well, he used less exclaimation marks that Stu, so that's a success in my book 21:52:14 justme__ has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 21:53:22 heh, and he didn't come on and say "swhack!". that's a good sign 21:54:14 now I come to think about it, he didn't constantly plug crappy Mac sites and abuse the chump either. OTOH there was the hash abuse and the pool ball thing... 21:55:20 whilst I'm here, and since Aaron will be crying by now reading the logs... 21:55:39 why is there no good concise and phenomic synonym for prolegomenous? 21:55:52 I have preambulary and prefatory, but they both suck-ass 21:56:01 and prefatory is only one syllable less 21:58:07 * sbp wonders what's wrong with "prologous". When will the world learn? 22:02:14 "and that's just to prove that you can *never* predict what's going to happen on the BBC World Service" 22:04:13 Hi all. Services will be moving in a few moments. If we're incredibly swift about it, it may take no more than five minutes. Thanks. 22:07:45 Shutting down services on old box 22:13:28 Musical recommendations for the week: Elephant Song by GGF, and Fred Gerlach's version of Gallows Pole 22:16:42 rik has quit (carter.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net) 22:17:15 rik (~rik@beware.of.the.little-black-kitty.net) has joined #swhack 22:18:23 Sorry about that all. One of the current EU hubs was juped when last we ran services on this box. Problem has been resolved. 22:20:10 Kham (kmnguyen@alpha3.csd.uwm.edu) has joined #swhack 22:25:53 Gotta run 22:35:34 [GlobalNotice] Hi all. Behavior of ChanServ SET TOPICLOCK on channels has changed. Description follows on WALLOPS. 22:36:15 Give me a moment for people to go +w and then I'll proceed. 22:37:27 Okay, here's the situation. You can still SET TOPICLOCK, at which point the topic will be locked, but it's been changed to make it easier to use. 22:38:07 There is no more SET TOPIC. Instead there is a channel level TOPIC, which is set to 10. Anyone added to the channel access list with level 10 or greater can set the topic. If anyone else tries, it'll just get changed back. 22:38:34 If the last person to set the topic did not have the appropriate access, ChanServ will not remember a topic and you'll have to reset it. 22:46:41 Ash has changed the topic to: SCREW YOU LILO 22:48:45 I should note, as well, that to bypass topiclock you not only have to have an access level of 10 or better, *but you have to be identified to nickserv*. Thanks. 22:57:51 s|a (~synack@210-86-62-17.jetstart.xtra.co.nz) has joined #swhack 22:58:04 morning guys 23:42:48 wmf (~wmf@cs666868-69.austin.rr.com) has joined #swhack 23:48:22 anybody got a wiki I can use?