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01:53:30 <Kham> hello all
01:58:45 <AaronSw> * AaronSw -> BOF
02:02:56 <Kham> hello Aaron
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02:17:04 <Morbus> AaronSw: the file size changes between the two Ampheta's is huge.
02:17:19 <Morbus> i've gone from 1 meg gzipped to 400k gzipped.
02:17:23 <Morbus> for the source.
02:29:33 <Kham> hello Morbus
02:29:50 <Morbus> * Morbus grunts
02:30:08 <Kham> * Kham smiles
02:30:47 <Kham> I have to log off momentarily so my roommate can use the phone, later all
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02:47:05 <Kham> there is lots about the internet
02:47:19 <Kham> especially with computer security
02:47:26 <Kham> that I don't know
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04:00:14 <Ash> MORBAS
05:20:27 <eikeon> * eikeon is away: zzzz
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06:35:55 <s|a> hello all
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06:44:39 <walloper> <MysticOne> Good morning, everyone.  This isn't usually something we would announce... but, it's just a little bit of a strange situation.  There's a bot in numerous channels on this network going by the nick of 'bowring' ... it harvests URLs from the channels it's in and places them on a website.  
06:45:30 <walloper> <MysticOne> We don't really know what the reasoning is behind the bot's operation, why it's using the channels it is, etc ... but, we've had some people a bit upset about it, and thought we should let everyone know that it exists so you can decide if you want it in your channels or not.
06:47:02 <walloper> <MysticOne> So ... there you have it.  Thanks for your time.  These are wallops messages, generally used for non-critical network announcements.  If you'd prefer not to receive these messages, simply /mode YourNick -w.  Everyone have a nice day, and thank you for using the Open Projects Network.
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13:38:32 <Morbus> anyone around? 
13:38:40 <Morbus> what do you think of the blogroll opml stuff?
13:40:43 <rik> blogroll sound like something you wipe you alss with.
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14:30:44 <Ash> la la la
14:31:10 <Morbus> eh oh!
14:38:59 <eikeon> * eikeon is back (gone 09:18:31)
14:44:53 <rik> mew.
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15:16:29 <bitsko> is there a dedicated channel for the conference?
15:39:33 <Ash> bitsko: #etcon
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16:26:05 <pixel> hi again.
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16:30:05 <pixel> bye again.
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17:26:58 <bitsko> hey kendall, just reading your xml.com article on rdf primer.  now that xml.com is back ;)
17:27:11 <kendallc> hi bitsko
17:27:18 <kendallc> xml.c was down?
17:27:43 <bitsko> possibly only for a short while, I didn't try again until just after lunch
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17:32:20 <pixel> hello again
17:37:11 <Morbus> hey
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17:41:36 <pixel> hey yet again.
17:44:11 <bitsko> wow, I'd missed section 8 of the primer altogether.  I think you hit it right on the head: the hidden gemstone
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17:46:49 <kendallc> well, unfinished promissory gemstone :>
17:47:04 <kendallc> i.e., i was trying to encourage them to flesh it out in the way they seem to be leaning
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18:03:58 <redmonk> *SHIMMER* *WHIRRRMMMM*
18:04:03 <redmonk> * redmonk transports in
18:04:09 <redmonk> "Meekness is uncommon patience in planning a worthwhile revenge."
18:04:16 <redmonk> redmonk has changed the topic to: Meekness is uncommon patience in planning a worthwhile revenge.
18:04:40 <jillzilla> * jillzilla admires the entrance.
18:04:50 <jillzilla> Hello, redmonk.
18:05:30 <redmonk> hi jill!
18:05:43 <redmonk> 'lo all!
18:08:27 <redmonk> "beam me up, scotty. there's no intelligent life on Planet Doron-Swhack"
18:09:06 <redmonk> anyonee here an Oracle god?
18:10:19 <redmonk> * redmonk wanders off to crawl thrrough some hairy java code
18:30:21 <jillzilla> * jillzilla ventures to see this Clone Attack thing.
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19:04:27 <Morbus> argh.
19:04:29 <Morbus> .seen pixel
19:04:29 <xena> pixel seen in #swhack saying: [ hey yet again.  ] ~ 1 hr(s) 22 min(s) 53 sec(s) ago
19:04:33 <Morbus> dammit.
19:06:40 <redmonk> Ho Morbus, Iff of Amphetadesk
19:08:55 <Morbus> hey
19:09:09 <redmonk> sup
19:12:13 <Morbus> nothng.
19:12:19 <Morbus> you gonna alpha test ampheta for me?
19:13:06 <redmonk> i suppose
19:13:07 <redmonk> ;-)
19:13:44 <Morbus> heh, fine!
19:13:47 <Morbus> you won't want to anyways.
19:13:51 <Morbus> there's nothing you want in it ;)
19:13:56 <redmonk> hehe
19:14:10 <redmonk> i don't mind, but i'm really waiting for the other view
19:14:21 <redmonk> sorry. :(
19:14:30 <Morbus> i know you are.
19:14:38 <Morbus> this is the start of that path though.
19:14:45 <Morbus> the new code will allow me to do that pretty easily, actually.
19:14:46 <redmonk> i know, and that's really cool
19:14:50 <redmonk> excellent
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19:16:52 <Morbus> i did an immense amount of work on it last night.
19:17:01 <Morbus> i'm really happy with what I got out of it.
19:17:07 <Morbus> the code is so much smaller and slimmer now.
19:17:07 <redmonk> sweet
19:17:11 <redmonk> that's great
19:17:18 <Morbus> and the wrapper exe rocks.
19:17:25 <Morbus> i mean, i rarely see perl apps compiled into binaries.
19:17:35 <Morbus> much less wrapper binaries that run raw perl source ;)
19:17:59 <Morbus> and it doesn't even have to be MY perl.
19:18:15 <Morbus> i'll be setting it up where if you wrote a perl utility, you could say "amphetadesk.exe -utility=redmonk.pl"
19:18:21 <Morbus> and it would execute your perl as best it could.
19:21:50 <redmonk> heeh
19:21:51 <redmonk> sweet
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19:35:29 <redmonk> wb
19:37:19 <Morbus> thanks.
19:37:23 <Morbus> i think i finally got the HW stuff licked.
19:37:59 <redmonk> HW? harware?
19:38:03 <redmonk> er, hardware?
19:43:28 <Morbus> yup
19:44:08 <redmonk> cool
19:44:28 <Morbus> only like 40 reboots
19:44:31 <Morbus> literally
19:45:24 <redmonk> lovely
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19:48:57 <redmonk> i need a sql or oracle god
19:49:05 <redmonk> you know anyonee, morbus?
19:52:04 <Morbus> check #evolt
19:52:11 <Morbus> er, nevermind.
19:52:13 <Morbus> they're not in there today.
19:52:23 <Morbus> check evolt. look for djc or genghis or mwarren.
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20:00:42 <quasi> wb Morbus ;)
20:01:11 <davb> redmonk: how god-like do you need?
20:01:17 <Morbus> you know, this is getting so bad, i'm just chuckling weakly now.
20:01:47 <redmonk> heh. i've got a GUID-generating algorithm in Java that I need to determine if it can be done in PLSQL
20:02:39 <davb> ow. I don't even know what a guid is :)
20:02:49 <redmonk> it just occurred to me that oracle 8+ can rrun java code... can't it?
20:02:58 <davb> yes, i believe so
20:03:16 <redmonk> in our case it's a MS-style globally-unique-id generated from another field
20:03:26 <redmonk> XXXX-XXXX-XXXX-XXXX-XXXX
20:04:12 <davb> pl/sql could probably do it. I just dabble in oracle though, mostly I use postgresql
20:06:19 <quasi> davb: pl/sql can do loads of stuff - making me po'ed in seconds being just one of them ;)
20:06:32 <redmonk> perhaps. in this case i actually HAVE to post the algorithm, since the new guids have to be the same os the old ones
20:06:37 <davb> ah.
20:07:06 <redmonk> meaning the new code has to generate the same GUID for a given string as the old code
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20:41:49 <Morbus> etcon, cammed: http://www.benhammersley.com/webcam.jpg
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21:10:01 <Ash> la la la
21:10:09 <redmonk> so so so
21:10:12 <redmonk> fa fa fa
21:10:14 <Ash> man
21:10:15 <Ash> i'm so tired
21:10:18 <redmonk> mi mi mi
21:10:20 <redmonk> bummer
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21:58:26 <syn|ack> hi guys
22:18:10 <redmonk> lo
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22:40:40 <jillzilla> * jillzilla returns from Attack of the Clones.
22:41:06 <jillzilla> * jillzilla waves to all.
22:44:59 <redmonk> hi jill
22:45:22 <redmonk> * redmonk determines that he's going to kill anyone that tells him ANYTHING about AotC
22:45:28 <jillzilla> Oh, have no fear.
22:45:35 <redmonk> ok
22:45:38 <redmonk> ;)
22:45:50 <jillzilla> I just refused to tell the cool bits in #infoanarchy.
22:46:05 <jillzilla> I gave one quote that it turned out had been in a commercial.
22:46:12 <jillzilla> (I've never seen a commercial for AotC)
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23:04:29 <Ash> JILLZILLA
23:05:22 <jillzilla> hey, Ash.
23:05:22 <jillzilla> * jillzilla wonders if she is coming down with something.
23:05:22 <Ash> How are you doing?
23:05:22 <jillzilla> Heh.  I feel...weird.
23:05:22 <Ash> jillzilla: You've got a case of the MUNCHIES
23:05:22 <jillzilla> * jillzilla moans.
23:05:25 <Ash> I'm just happy because this routing stuff works
23:05:28 <jillzilla> I'm even craving citrus fruit.  This is not a good thing.
23:05:31 <Ash> and now that I know how to do it, my job will be a lot easier
23:05:40 <jillzilla> rowr.  
23:05:45 <Ash> (our 3com switch does its routing in an obtuse way)
23:09:30 <Ash> but now that i grok the routing on the 3com.. my routing technique is unstoppable
23:09:59 <Morbus> * Morbus continues hacking on ampheta
23:10:03 <jillzilla> mmm, routing fu.
23:10:06 <jillzilla> Hello, Morbus.
23:10:42 <Morbus> hey jillzilla
23:12:12 <redmonk> hey morb
23:12:18 <redmonk> howzamp?
23:12:32 <Morbus> hey monk! :)
23:12:47 <Morbus> doing real good.
23:12:47 <Morbus> i'm just tweaking stuff now.
23:12:58 <redmonk> cool
23:13:31 <Morbus> i'm gonna have to redo all the docs.
23:13:31 <Morbus> heh. so much has changed in file structure, etc.
23:15:30 <jillzilla> * jillzilla sends mail saying she feels terrible (which is true) and heads home.
23:17:20 <Ash> aww
23:17:24 <Ash> get better jillzilla
23:17:29 <Ash> * Ash dcc's jillzilla a bowl of soup
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