IRC log of swhack on 2002-05-16

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00:10:43 [MrE]
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01:25:02 [Morbus]
no one loves swhack.
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01:53:30 [Kham]
hello all
01:58:45 [AaronSw]
* AaronSw -> BOF
02:02:56 [Kham]
hello Aaron
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02:17:04 [Morbus]
AaronSw: the file size changes between the two Ampheta's is huge.
02:17:19 [Morbus]
i've gone from 1 meg gzipped to 400k gzipped.
02:17:23 [Morbus]
for the source.
02:29:33 [Kham]
hello Morbus
02:29:50 [Morbus]
* Morbus grunts
02:30:08 [Kham]
* Kham smiles
02:30:47 [Kham]
I have to log off momentarily so my roommate can use the phone, later all
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* Morbus scratches head.
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02:47:05 [Kham]
there is lots about the internet
02:47:19 [Kham]
especially with computer security
02:47:26 [Kham]
that I don't know
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04:00:14 [Ash]
MORBAS
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* eikeon is away: zzzz
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06:35:55 [s|a]
hello all
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06:44:39 [walloper]
<MysticOne> Good morning, everyone. This isn't usually something we would announce... but, it's just a little bit of a strange situation. There's a bot in numerous channels on this network going by the nick of 'bowring' ... it harvests URLs from the channels it's in and places them on a website.
06:45:30 [walloper]
<MysticOne> We don't really know what the reasoning is behind the bot's operation, why it's using the channels it is, etc ... but, we've had some people a bit upset about it, and thought we should let everyone know that it exists so you can decide if you want it in your channels or not.
06:47:02 [walloper]
<MysticOne> So ... there you have it. Thanks for your time. These are wallops messages, generally used for non-critical network announcements. If you'd prefer not to receive these messages, simply /mode YourNick -w. Everyone have a nice day, and thank you for using the Open Projects Network.
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13:38:32 [Morbus]
anyone around?
13:38:40 [Morbus]
what do you think of the blogroll opml stuff?
13:40:43 [rik]
blogroll sound like something you wipe you alss with.
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14:30:44 [Ash]
la la la
14:31:10 [Morbus]
eh oh!
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14:44:53 [rik]
mew.
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15:16:29 [bitsko]
is there a dedicated channel for the conference?
15:39:33 [Ash]
bitsko: #etcon
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16:26:05 [pixel]
hi again.
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16:30:05 [pixel]
bye again.
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17:26:58 [bitsko]
hey kendall, just reading your xml.com article on rdf primer. now that xml.com is back ;)
17:27:11 [kendallc]
hi bitsko
17:27:18 [kendallc]
xml.c was down?
17:27:43 [bitsko]
possibly only for a short while, I didn't try again until just after lunch
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17:32:20 [pixel]
hello again
17:37:11 [Morbus]
hey
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17:41:36 [pixel]
hey yet again.
17:44:11 [bitsko]
wow, I'd missed section 8 of the primer altogether. I think you hit it right on the head: the hidden gemstone
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17:46:49 [kendallc]
well, unfinished promissory gemstone :>
17:47:04 [kendallc]
i.e., i was trying to encourage them to flesh it out in the way they seem to be leaning
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*SHIMMER* *WHIRRRMMMM*
18:04:03 [redmonk]
* redmonk transports in
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"Meekness is uncommon patience in planning a worthwhile revenge."
18:04:16 [redmonk]
redmonk has changed the topic to: Meekness is uncommon patience in planning a worthwhile revenge.
18:04:40 [jillzilla]
* jillzilla admires the entrance.
18:04:50 [jillzilla]
Hello, redmonk.
18:05:30 [redmonk]
hi jill!
18:05:43 [redmonk]
'lo all!
18:08:27 [redmonk]
"beam me up, scotty. there's no intelligent life on Planet Doron-Swhack"
18:09:06 [redmonk]
anyonee here an Oracle god?
18:10:19 [redmonk]
* redmonk wanders off to crawl thrrough some hairy java code
18:30:21 [jillzilla]
* jillzilla ventures to see this Clone Attack thing.
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19:04:27 [Morbus]
argh.
19:04:29 [Morbus]
.seen pixel
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pixel seen in #swhack saying: [ hey yet again. ] ~ 1 hr(s) 22 min(s) 53 sec(s) ago
19:04:33 [Morbus]
dammit.
19:06:40 [redmonk]
Ho Morbus, Iff of Amphetadesk
19:08:55 [Morbus]
hey
19:09:09 [redmonk]
sup
19:12:13 [Morbus]
nothng.
19:12:19 [Morbus]
you gonna alpha test ampheta for me?
19:13:06 [redmonk]
i suppose
19:13:07 [redmonk]
;-)
19:13:44 [Morbus]
heh, fine!
19:13:47 [Morbus]
you won't want to anyways.
19:13:51 [Morbus]
there's nothing you want in it ;)
19:13:56 [redmonk]
hehe
19:14:10 [redmonk]
i don't mind, but i'm really waiting for the other view
19:14:21 [redmonk]
sorry. :(
19:14:30 [Morbus]
i know you are.
19:14:38 [Morbus]
this is the start of that path though.
19:14:45 [Morbus]
the new code will allow me to do that pretty easily, actually.
19:14:46 [redmonk]
i know, and that's really cool
19:14:50 [redmonk]
excellent
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19:16:52 [Morbus]
i did an immense amount of work on it last night.
19:17:01 [Morbus]
i'm really happy with what I got out of it.
19:17:07 [Morbus]
the code is so much smaller and slimmer now.
19:17:07 [redmonk]
sweet
19:17:11 [redmonk]
that's great
19:17:18 [Morbus]
and the wrapper exe rocks.
19:17:25 [Morbus]
i mean, i rarely see perl apps compiled into binaries.
19:17:35 [Morbus]
much less wrapper binaries that run raw perl source ;)
19:17:59 [Morbus]
and it doesn't even have to be MY perl.
19:18:15 [Morbus]
i'll be setting it up where if you wrote a perl utility, you could say "amphetadesk.exe -utility=redmonk.pl"
19:18:21 [Morbus]
and it would execute your perl as best it could.
19:21:50 [redmonk]
heeh
19:21:51 [redmonk]
sweet
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19:35:29 [redmonk]
wb
19:37:19 [Morbus]
thanks.
19:37:23 [Morbus]
i think i finally got the HW stuff licked.
19:37:59 [redmonk]
HW? harware?
19:38:03 [redmonk]
er, hardware?
19:43:28 [Morbus]
yup
19:44:08 [redmonk]
cool
19:44:28 [Morbus]
only like 40 reboots
19:44:31 [Morbus]
literally
19:45:24 [redmonk]
lovely
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19:48:57 [redmonk]
i need a sql or oracle god
19:49:05 [redmonk]
you know anyonee, morbus?
19:52:04 [Morbus]
check #evolt
19:52:11 [Morbus]
er, nevermind.
19:52:13 [Morbus]
they're not in there today.
19:52:23 [Morbus]
check evolt. look for djc or genghis or mwarren.
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20:00:42 [quasi]
wb Morbus ;)
20:01:11 [davb]
redmonk: how god-like do you need?
20:01:17 [Morbus]
you know, this is getting so bad, i'm just chuckling weakly now.
20:01:47 [redmonk]
heh. i've got a GUID-generating algorithm in Java that I need to determine if it can be done in PLSQL
20:02:39 [davb]
ow. I don't even know what a guid is :)
20:02:49 [redmonk]
it just occurred to me that oracle 8+ can rrun java code... can't it?
20:02:58 [davb]
yes, i believe so
20:03:16 [redmonk]
in our case it's a MS-style globally-unique-id generated from another field
20:03:26 [redmonk]
XXXX-XXXX-XXXX-XXXX-XXXX
20:04:12 [davb]
pl/sql could probably do it. I just dabble in oracle though, mostly I use postgresql
20:06:19 [quasi]
davb: pl/sql can do loads of stuff - making me po'ed in seconds being just one of them ;)
20:06:32 [redmonk]
perhaps. in this case i actually HAVE to post the algorithm, since the new guids have to be the same os the old ones
20:06:37 [davb]
ah.
20:07:06 [redmonk]
meaning the new code has to generate the same GUID for a given string as the old code
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20:41:49 [Morbus]
etcon, cammed: http://www.benhammersley.com/webcam.jpg
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21:10:01 [Ash]
la la la
21:10:09 [redmonk]
so so so
21:10:12 [redmonk]
fa fa fa
21:10:14 [Ash]
man
21:10:15 [Ash]
i'm so tired
21:10:18 [redmonk]
mi mi mi
21:10:20 [redmonk]
bummer
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21:58:26 [syn|ack]
hi guys
22:18:10 [redmonk]
lo
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22:40:40 [jillzilla]
* jillzilla returns from Attack of the Clones.
22:41:06 [jillzilla]
* jillzilla waves to all.
22:44:59 [redmonk]
hi jill
22:45:22 [redmonk]
* redmonk determines that he's going to kill anyone that tells him ANYTHING about AotC
22:45:28 [jillzilla]
Oh, have no fear.
22:45:35 [redmonk]
ok
22:45:38 [redmonk]
;)
22:45:50 [jillzilla]
I just refused to tell the cool bits in #infoanarchy.
22:46:05 [jillzilla]
I gave one quote that it turned out had been in a commercial.
22:46:12 [jillzilla]
(I've never seen a commercial for AotC)
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23:04:29 [Ash]
JILLZILLA
23:05:22 [jillzilla]
hey, Ash.
23:05:22 [jillzilla]
* jillzilla wonders if she is coming down with something.
23:05:22 [Ash]
How are you doing?
23:05:22 [jillzilla]
Heh. I feel...weird.
23:05:22 [Ash]
jillzilla: You've got a case of the MUNCHIES
23:05:22 [jillzilla]
* jillzilla moans.
23:05:25 [Ash]
I'm just happy because this routing stuff works
23:05:28 [jillzilla]
I'm even craving citrus fruit. This is not a good thing.
23:05:31 [Ash]
and now that I know how to do it, my job will be a lot easier
23:05:40 [jillzilla]
rowr.
23:05:45 [Ash]
(our 3com switch does its routing in an obtuse way)
23:09:30 [Ash]
but now that i grok the routing on the 3com.. my routing technique is unstoppable
23:09:59 [Morbus]
* Morbus continues hacking on ampheta
23:10:03 [jillzilla]
mmm, routing fu.
23:10:06 [jillzilla]
Hello, Morbus.
23:10:42 [Morbus]
hey jillzilla
23:12:12 [redmonk]
hey morb
23:12:18 [redmonk]
howzamp?
23:12:32 [Morbus]
hey monk! :)
23:12:47 [Morbus]
doing real good.
23:12:47 [Morbus]
i'm just tweaking stuff now.
23:12:58 [redmonk]
cool
23:13:31 [Morbus]
i'm gonna have to redo all the docs.
23:13:31 [Morbus]
heh. so much has changed in file structure, etc.
23:15:30 [jillzilla]
* jillzilla sends mail saying she feels terrible (which is true) and heads home.
23:17:20 [Ash]
aww
23:17:24 [Ash]
get better jillzilla
23:17:29 [Ash]
* Ash dcc's jillzilla a bowl of soup
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