00:00:08 well, and you have no day job ;-) 00:00:20 (no offense meant) 00:02:04 seriously - i wish i caould make it out to some of these events - esp the emerging tech one. but there's no way to get away from work, and i don't have the $$$$ to pay my own way 00:12:53 wmf has quit ("swhack the planet") 01:06:35 divgrad (~John@194.158.216.192) has joined #swhack 01:07:40 divgrad has left #swhack 01:08:05 deltab is now known as or 01:08:26 or is now known as deltab 01:08:30 jillzilla is now known as and 01:08:37 and is now known as jillzilla 01:18:04 jeremiah has quit ("ChatZilla 0.8.7 [Mozilla rv:1.0rc2/20020510]") 02:10:47 redmonk has quit (Remote closed the connection) 05:22:03 wmf (~wmf@12.44.177.146) has joined #swhack 06:04:46 jillium (~jill@dsl092-186-227.sfo2.dsl.speakeasy.net) has joined #swhack 06:04:52 hello 06:05:00 hi 06:05:07 hi. 06:05:11 I need more Unicode characters to feed my habit. 06:05:16 - http://wmf.editthispage.com/discuss/msgReader$7520 06:45:17 wmf has quit ("[BX] Reserve your copy of BitchX-1.0c18 for the PalmPilot today!") 08:02:53 Hi all. Issues with one of our two new main hubs; the other seems to have picked up the traffic. 08:08:10 [GlobalNotice] Hi all. Just a reminder that user mode +w displays WALLOPS, containing contain non-critical comments and announcements and detailed server admin information. On most clients, "/mode +w" will turn them on. We just experienced an intermittent fault with one of the new main hubs. The other hub picked up the load. Thanks for your patience. 08:13:13 Services is floating, it'll be back in a sec....looks like some ongoing problems with that one hub, it isn't back all the way. 08:16:12 Services is back; it really looks as if kornbluth (the hidden hub with the problems) is going to be intermittent for a few minutes....subtract points for reliability. *sighrin* 08:17:38 One other server remains on kornbluth (a small one) and response time is good. So clearly these are routing issues on that provider. 09:02:59 eikeon has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 09:18:29 quasi has quit ("My damn controlling terminal disappeared!") 09:31:47 s|a (~synack@210-86-90-184.jetstream.xtra.co.nz) has joined #swhack 09:31:54 hello all 09:34:42 jillium has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 10:22:34 s|a has quit ("[x]chat") 10:56:54 morning 10:56:58 morning 10:57:02 er, ack 11:24:51 quasi (~toftum@tigerdyr.wheel.dk) has joined #swhack 11:38:54 pixel (~pixel@ns.bhsi.com) has joined #swhack 12:12:13 hey pixel 12:29:31 hey ash. 12:29:36 seems we're the early birds. 12:36:34 tansaku_xf has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 12:42:55 [14:29] seems we're the early birds. 12:43:00 heh 12:44:19 :) 14:00:38 redmonk (~steve@63.149.73.20) has joined #swhack 14:02:28 *SWHACK* 14:02:40 * redmonk appears, trips, and faceplants 14:05:23 ouch. 14:09:12 good morning 14:09:27 pixel: My daughter woke up at 4:30.. after I put her back to bed at 4:45 I couldn't get back to sleep 14:09:53 I totally understand that feeling. my son is 1-1/2. 14:10:01 oh good, another parent 14:10:03 you understand! 14:10:03 hehe 14:10:09 my daughter just turned two. 14:10:10 COMPLETELY. 14:10:16 1 1/2 is such a fun age 14:10:26 very fun. he's a blast. 14:10:41 hi guys 14:10:51 "Parenting is simply an act of extreme sleep deprivation" 14:10:51 yeah 14:10:53 ehehehe 14:11:01 * Ash hands pixel a case of red bull 14:11:05 hehe 14:11:25 * redmonk sips coffee and contemplates why he and the wife are trying to have kids 14:11:42 luckily we were able to get our daughter on a proper sleep schedule from the get go.. she almost never wakes up during the night. 14:13:03 ours doesn't wake up very often either. he's been sleeping completely through the night very well fr a long time, thankfully. I've finally caught back up on sleep recently. I think I was a zonbie for the first year or so. 14:13:14 zonbie = zombie 14:13:27 although sometimes he doesn't like to go to sleep untuil 11:30 or so. hehe 14:13:39 and then I can't type at all the next day :) 14:16:34 hehehehe 14:16:37 Yeah, I know what you mean. 14:16:50 We've been lax about getting her to bed and it's led to laaaate bedtimes occasionally. 14:16:58 We're trying to get her back on a regular schedule now 14:20:27 wtf 14:20:31 somebody is hammering 14:20:33 grr! 14:21:50 nap times seem to really affect him. he usually takes about a 2 hr nap, around 1pm. but if that moves to 2 pm, he goes to bed an hour later. yesterday he passed out for a nap around 4pm., slept for an hour, we went to bed after midnight. I got up at 6:15am need more sleep :) 14:22:55 hehehe 14:22:57 yup 14:23:21 that's exactly what happens 14:28:29 * Ash iconifies irc 14:29:38 *swoosh* 14:36:39 eikeon (~Daniel@jungle.ne.client2.attbi.com) has joined #swhack 14:40:26 pixel: what os do you use 14:40:30 mostly 14:41:33 mostly, Windows 2000. 14:41:52 cool 14:42:11 mac os x, myself. looking forward to new apple mac-in-a-rack today 14:42:21 I have 6 machines in my cube. 4 running windows 2k, one running mandrake, and one running MacOS9 (which rarely is turned on) 14:43:17 you know, I'm starting to like mozilla again. 14:43:32 mmmmmm, Mozeeeela 14:43:55 wonder how I download new themes. 14:44:36 no clue 14:44:46 actually i think it may be done with a url 14:44:57 (ie, moz can download and install the theme) 14:45:01 but i don't know 14:45:10 hmm. oh well, 'll stick with whatI've got. 14:45:12 .google mozilla themes 14:45:24 yo! xena! 14:45:28 it sure is nice and fast though. and renders nicely for the most part. 14:45:31 yeah 14:45:44 except my website doesn't render, of course. hehe 14:45:57 wonder if anyone has done a winddows-native GUI version of mozilla? 14:46:05 in the same lines as Chimera 14:46:06 netscape. 14:46:12 oh. 14:46:15 which is a native mac os x version 14:46:16 native GUI. 14:46:19 uhuh 14:46:25 I dunno... I haven;t seen one. 14:46:45 Chimera is wicked fast - since the GUI is all native, just the rendering engine is gecko 14:46:57 actually, all the network code and such is mozilla too 14:47:05 just the gui is native 14:47:10 it's sweet 14:47:23 as soon as they get s few more features in, I'll prolly switch 14:47:36 very nice. much like the WebBrowser control for IE that can be plugged into any app. 14:48:21 yeah, but i think chimera actually uses most of mozilla's unix codebase, just with the cocoa (native) GUI 14:52:06 new mac-in-a-rack today? 14:53:20 do they call the 4U version a "Big Mac in a Rack" ? 14:54:54 When are theses servers supposed to be announced? 14:55:12 today 14:55:16 no idea when 14:55:22 my guess is 10-ish 14:55:25 PST 14:55:47 http://www.redmonk.net for a link 14:58:40 http://www.thinksecret.com/features/rackmountevent.html 14:58:50 3 hour media event starting at 9 PST 15:03:23 tansaku_xf (~sam@n144-001.tokyu-net.catv.ne.jp) has joined #swhack 15:09:21 cool 15:10:00 damn you thinksecret.com 15:10:03 it crashed mozilla 15:10:04 heh 15:18:30 heh 15:23:08 Hi all. Problems with our old hubs in Europe, and fortunately we have some new candidates to try. 15:23:44 is the media event broadcast? 15:24:50 i seriously doubt it 15:24:54 but merhaps 15:24:57 on satellite 15:25:04 (merhaps? ;-)) 15:25:28 heh 15:25:31 oops. 15:25:33 * AaronSw-CA-US -> keynote 15:30:44 looks like you had a good time at google, aaron. 15:31:41 yep, thanks 15:31:45 wireless at poolside -- that's so wrong 15:35:08 laters. 15:36:15 fwoosh 15:49:10 "I lift this clavicle to worlds without number, and bring a new light to the Way, guiding this gate that all may prosper, those who guide and are guided, who light the Way and bask in the light so given....Behold, I open a new world." 15:49:22 Please welcome lerouge.openprojects.net, in Paris, FR, EU! 15:53:59 tansaku_xf has quit (Connection timed out) 16:09:04 jillium (~jill@dsl092-186-227.sfo2.dsl.speakeasy.net) has joined #swhack 16:14:44 j j j jillum. 16:24:48 hello 16:40:09 hi 16:47:23 Google asked me to take down the photo of the photo of Al Gore. 16:47:52 no shit. hehehe. 16:50:51 Morbus (~morbus@morbus.totalnetnh.net) has joined #swhack 16:54:39 yo morb. 16:56:50 hey. 16:57:58 hey hey hey, it's Fat Albert. 16:58:46 heh. heh. 16:58:51 chocolate cake for breakfast! 16:59:34 hehe. mmmm good. it's got Flour, Eggs, Milk ...all the parts of a healthy breakfasst! 16:59:55 yeaah, goat, yeah. 17:00:04 Bensw| (nobody@un.impressive.net) has joined #swhack 17:00:04 we rock. 17:00:12 aaron are you there 17:00:33 hi 17:00:49 aaron what is the convertamatic url 17:01:05 pixel: what were those albums i asked you to post? i can't find my notes. 17:01:08 ty 17:01:12 man, i'm all messed up today. send me the email back if you cabn. 17:04:06 no prob. 17:04:57 sent. 17:04:57 Bensw| has quit (Remote closed the connection) 17:05:35 thanks. 17:05:39 i'm losing everything lately. 17:05:58 i understand. 17:07:44 * AaronSw-CA-US -> charge 17:16:58 only 8 more CDs. 17:16:59 17:29:54 FWOOSH 17:33:11 jillium has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 17:43:15 hey all 17:50:17 hey monkinator. 17:50:33 morbie! 17:50:39 hey, monk, Morbus. 17:50:41 how's life? 17:50:45 i'm gonna work on ampheta tonight! 17:50:47 yay! 17:50:47 wish apple would hurry up and post a spec page on the Xserve 17:50:50 Morbus: woo! 17:50:51 cool! 17:51:05 jill!!!!!!!!! 17:51:10 yeah! i know. jon udell has been mentinoing it lately. 17:51:11 * jillzilla waves enthusiastically. 17:51:16 i just gotta get something better out there. 17:51:21 do you want to be an alpha tester? 17:51:31 if I work on it for three straight nights, I should have an alpha by the weekend. 17:51:34 for win32 people./ 17:53:02 GabeW (~Gabe@12-236-104-95.client.attbi.com) has joined #swhack 17:53:12 Well, if it isn't Gabe of W. 17:53:15 Long time, Gabe! 17:53:26 heyh 17:53:45 back from vacation (which I will not talk about right now) 17:54:01 pixel is gonna be helping me out with ampheta too. 17:54:02 * jillzilla feels warned. 17:54:06 or even more so than he has ;) 17:55:35 hey jillzilla: would you believe i still haven't listened to that mp3? 17:55:40 but I thank you for the Moby track. 17:56:37 Morbus: Hmm. 17:56:45 Hmm? 17:56:52 * jillzilla has no blood sugar. 17:56:56 Getting something to eat... 18:11:59 * jillzilla feels better. 18:31:36 fwosh 18:32:41 Ash. 18:33:57 hi jillzilla 18:33:59 how are you doing? 18:34:02 * Ash is eating LUNCH 18:34:03 rawr 18:34:17 * jillzilla is a bit frantic today. Too much to do... 18:34:21 ick 18:34:23 I know what you mean. 18:34:27 I've been awake since 4:30am 18:34:37 I read about that in scrollback. 18:34:44 And now I want pictures of pixel's son. :-) 18:34:48 aaaahhhh 18:34:50 hehehehe 18:34:56 * jillzilla sympathizes. 18:35:00 The crawl does that from time to time. 18:35:06 Not quite the same as a child, though. 18:35:46 * jillzilla remembers getting peeved last year as her previous job when she was being routinely awakened in the middle of the night because of unstable software. 18:35:59 I remember saying, "If I wanted to wake up at random times every night, I would have a baby!" 18:36:19 Yeah, unstable software pisses me off 18:36:31 I've finally gotten things here calmed down 18:36:39 groupwise 6.0 was buggy as all hell 18:36:49 but SP1 fixed it 18:36:50 heh 18:47:22 intentional restart of lerouge follows 18:47:38 argh. 18:47:40 i have so many pains. 19:01:24 GabeW has quit ("Client Exiting") 19:12:50 sigh. i'm lonely. 19:16:04 Morbus: Alcohol loves you 19:16:12 it will be your friend! 19:16:19 heh, heh. i was thinking of that recently. 19:16:23 i have a decent amount in my household. 19:22:11 pixel has left #swhack 19:23:09 Morbus: uhhhh, better start drinking to make sure it does not get too old ;) 19:25:01 it gets better with age! 19:25:10 i got aftershock, vodka, rum, some whisky, wine, etc. 19:25:14 i hate beer. not a beer drinker. 19:26:37 Morbus: I think I would hate beer(or whatever you call it) too if I was in the land of Budweiser ;) 19:27:28 heh, heh. 19:27:32 i just never liked the taste. 19:27:36 it doesn't sit with me. 19:27:40 must be that acquired taste crap. 19:27:47 howyadoin', btw? 19:28:51 Morbus: well, it just a question of getting some quality beer ;) 19:29:20 Morbus: but nevermind - more beer for the rest of us ;) 19:29:36 heh, heh. 19:32:15 * quasi tries to keep his booze intake to a minimum - the ulzer does not like high alcohol content ;) 19:34:15 i don't have an ulcer yet. 19:34:20 maybe that should be my goal this year. 19:37:55 Morbus: not really - having to decide wether a whiskey is worth the pain usually isn't a lot of fun ;) 19:38:15 heh, heh. 19:41:15 Morbus: trying to figure out what to do with that 16 year old Lagavulin has been a big problem recently ;) 19:44:48 quasi: Oh, 16 year Lagavulin! 19:44:53 * jillzilla dashes to Denmark. 19:45:50 And it isn't really very difficult to get good beer in the USA, at least in cities. 19:47:39 * jillzilla goes to grab some lunch. 19:48:54 jillzilla: at something like $40 it seemed like a good deal ;) 19:57:14 * Morbus runs screaming into a wall. 19:57:39 quasi: Sounds like a lovely deal! 19:58:34 * jillzilla calls in the gnomes to take Morbus away. 19:58:49 my nick name at one of my old jobs was gnomeboy 19:58:56 whenever I used the computers, I was gnome. 19:59:53 * jillzilla starts writing a book: _From Gnome to Disease: the untold story of Morbus Iff_ 19:59:59 heh 20:01:05 as heard on /., re: new apple servers: "Nice Rack." 20:14:52 heh, heh. 20:15:01 amphetadesk alpha by friday. that's my milestone. 20:30:47 schweet 20:31:12 * AaronSw-CA-US blogs Brewster Khale's talk 20:36:14 "Most loss is from programmer error. Solution: make another copy. He put a version in the new Library of Alexandria. The idea of having a copy of the Web in different cultures with swap agreements between them gets around the major bug of the original Library of Alexandria: it burned." 20:40:06 they're looking for researchers interested in large content collections (linguists, socialogists, etc.). 20:40:23 how large? 20:40:31 i collect images ;) 20:41:44 :) 20:41:50 TimO just sat down next to me. 20:42:11 oooH! 20:42:15 * Morbus waves 20:42:18 rowr. I think this thing is finally running. 20:42:27 * jillzilla dashes off to the Westin to see if her pass is there. 20:44:51 argh, no, it's actually not running... 20:44:56 * jillzilla hits her head on the monitor. 20:45:04 jill? 20:45:10 look, AaronSw-CA-US's sitting next to TimO. 20:45:12 mm? 20:45:14 your petty problems can wait. 20:45:14 ;) 20:45:16 Who? 20:45:24 Tim O'Reilly. 20:45:47 * jillzilla attempts to look starstruck. 20:46:14 heh, heh. 20:46:22 * jillzilla sobs. They've all died! 20:46:27 * jillzilla is miserable. 20:46:32 who died? 20:46:45 my servers. 20:46:57 * jillzilla kicks an innocent passing puppy. 21:03:56 bwahahaha. 21:03:59 AaronSw-CA-US, from Scoble: 21:04:00 [[[ 21:04:00 Aaron Schwartz is Young I just met Aaron Schwartz here at the WWW conference. Boy is he young. Wow, to be smart and young again. Seize the world, Aaron. The future is safe in your hands. (He's still in high school). 21:04:01 ]]] 21:04:33 and I think he linked to the wrong AaronSw-CA-US too. 21:04:37 aaronland.info. 21:04:57 as well as misspelling his name 21:05:03 yup 21:05:31 [[[ 21:05:32 Glenn Fleishman just wrote to warn that my eight-year-old son Patrick might get freaked out by watching Spider-man. He says it's way too intense for kids less than 10 years old. My son's answer? "He should worry about me hanging out with Dave [Winer]. Dave should be rated X." But, point well taken. Heck, Patrick's seen a lot of movies including Titanic and Perfect Storm. I know, I'm a bad parent. 21:05:32 [[[ 21:05:33 ]]] 21:05:34 ]]] 21:05:38 heheheh. 21:12:55 GabeW (~Gabe@12-236-104-95.client.attbi.com) has joined #swhack 21:20:22 morn #swhack 21:20:39 [[[ 21:20:43 Distributed power-strip distribution There are not enough electrical outlets at the O'Reilly Emerging Technologies Conference -- yet. Kottke, Metafilter Matt and Lane and I just took a roadtrip in my rented Hertzmobile and found a MicroCenter (Matt: "Why is *Micro*center so *big*?") and I bought twenty cheapie power strips. Now I'm wandering around the conference, handing them out with the instruction: "Find a place where there aren't enough electrica 21:20:43 ]]] 21:20:43 from Boing Boing. 21:21:40 oOH, i see AaronSw-CA-US! http://www.actuallyworks.com/panopticon/ 21:25:58 i think i may can support for OS 9 / AmphetaDesk. 21:26:05 depends how easy it is with the new code. 21:48:34 * rik 21:50:30 Morbus has quit ("http://www.disobey.com/") 22:09:23 wow, this conference rocks 22:10:05 redmonk has quit ("cya") 22:10:12 just talked with Brewster Khale and he wants me to run the archiving @ home project 22:10:14 and now i'm sitting with matt haughy and the trotts 22:10:21 (ben and mena) 22:10:38 ihm, where's sbp? 22:11:23 heh, danny o'brien has a large poster of the Xseroes 22:11:31 it's Kahle btw 22:11:36 the what? 22:11:37 yeah, i noticed that 22:11:40 i keep screwing it up 22:12:08 basically to turn archiverProxy to output arc files and then send those to the presidio 22:12:50 arc files: http://www.alexa.com/company/arcformat.html 22:13:30 yeah 22:13:45 I was thinking you could make that distributed, though 22:14:01 Yeah, that's the next step. It'd be sort of slow, tho... 22:14:12 Anyone know some good Movable Type editors for OS X? 22:14:19 I can't get BlogApp to work... 22:50:04 Morbus (morbus@s83.terminal3.totalnetnh.net) has joined #swhack 22:55:14 MORBAS 22:58:05 wmf (~wmf@12.44.177.199) has joined #swhack 23:09:40 xoot (xoot@172.sanjose-11-12rs16rt.ca.dial-access.att.net) has joined #swhack 23:10:16 wmf and xoot at the same time? 23:10:21 that's really fucked up. 23:10:35 er, close to the same time. 23:10:35 stupid time stamps. 23:13:20 no, this is xoot's clone 23:13:34 i cloned him right up to dns 23:13:50 isn't it cool? 23:15:15 xoot has left #swhack 23:16:51 extant (~extant@171.64.136.254) has joined #swhack 23:19:10 anyone home? 23:20:37 hi 23:20:44 tav`` (tav@host217-36-8-119.in-addr.btopenworld.com) has joined #swhack 23:20:50 hey tav 23:21:02 rehi 23:21:06 anyone know of a working smtp server? 23:21:15 at this oreilly conference? 23:21:22 to relay from? 23:21:30 Oreilly ET conference 23:21:31 what's your IP? 23:21:46 you might want to join #etcon, BTW 23:21:56 192.168.5.140 23:22:20 that's a local IP... 23:22:21 smtprelay 171.64.136.254 23:22:37 isn't that stanford's open mail server? 23:23:02 join #etcon 23:23:02 howdy 23:23:07 anyone know of a working outgoing smtp server for ETcon? 23:23:27 try mail.swartzfam.com 23:23:27 it shoudl work for you 23:24:04 let's see. 23:24:18