IRC log of swhack on 2002-05-14

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00:00:08 [redmonk]
well, and you have no day job ;-)
00:00:20 [redmonk]
(no offense meant)
00:02:04 [redmonk]
seriously - i wish i caould make it out to some of these events - esp the emerging tech one. but there's no way to get away from work, and i don't have the $$$$ to pay my own way
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01:08:05 [deltab]
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01:08:30 [jillzilla]
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01:08:37 [and]
and is now known as jillzilla
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06:04:52 [jillium]
hello
06:05:00 [AaronSw-CA-US]
hi
06:05:07 [jillium]
hi.
06:05:11 [AaronSw-CA-US]
I need more Unicode characters to feed my habit.
06:05:16 [AaronSw-CA-US]
- http://wmf.editthispage.com/discuss/msgReader$7520
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08:02:53 [walloper]
<lilo> Hi all. Issues with one of our two new main hubs; the other seems to have picked up the traffic.
08:08:10 [lilo]
[GlobalNotice] Hi all. Just a reminder that user mode +w displays WALLOPS, containing contain non-critical comments and announcements and detailed server admin information. On most clients, "/mode <yournick> +w" will turn them on. We just experienced an intermittent fault with one of the new main hubs. The other hub picked up the load. Thanks for your patience.
08:13:13 [walloper]
<lilo> Services is floating, it'll be back in a sec....looks like some ongoing problems with that one hub, it isn't back all the way.
08:16:12 [walloper]
<lilo> Services is back; it really looks as if kornbluth (the hidden hub with the problems) is going to be intermittent for a few minutes....subtract points for reliability. *sighrin*
08:17:38 [walloper]
<lilo> One other server remains on kornbluth (a small one) and response time is good. So clearly these are routing issues on that provider.
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09:31:47 [s|a]
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09:31:54 [s|a]
hello all
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10:56:54 [Ash]
morning
10:56:58 [Ash]
morning
10:57:02 [Ash]
er, ack
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12:12:13 [Ash]
hey pixel
12:29:31 [pixel]
hey ash.
12:29:36 [pixel]
seems we're the early birds.
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12:42:55 [quasi]
[14:29]<pixel> seems we're the early birds.
12:43:00 [quasi]
heh
12:44:19 [pixel]
:)
14:00:38 [redmonk]
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14:02:28 [redmonk]
*SWHACK*
14:02:40 [redmonk]
* redmonk appears, trips, and faceplants
14:05:23 [pixel]
ouch.
14:09:12 [Ash]
good morning
14:09:27 [Ash]
pixel: My daughter woke up at 4:30.. after I put her back to bed at 4:45 I couldn't get back to sleep
14:09:53 [pixel]
I totally understand that feeling. my son is 1-1/2.
14:10:01 [Ash]
oh good, another parent
14:10:03 [Ash]
you understand!
14:10:03 [Ash]
hehe
14:10:09 [Ash]
my daughter just turned two.
14:10:10 [pixel]
COMPLETELY.
14:10:16 [Ash]
1 1/2 is such a fun age
14:10:26 [pixel]
very fun. he's a blast.
14:10:41 [redmonk]
hi guys
14:10:51 [pixel]
"Parenting is simply an act of extreme sleep deprivation"
14:10:51 [Ash]
yeah
14:10:53 [Ash]
ehehehe
14:11:01 [Ash]
* Ash hands pixel a case of red bull
14:11:05 [pixel]
hehe
14:11:25 [redmonk]
* redmonk sips coffee and contemplates why he and the wife are trying to have kids
14:11:42 [Ash]
luckily we were able to get our daughter on a proper sleep schedule from the get go.. she almost never wakes up during the night.
14:13:03 [pixel]
ours doesn't wake up very often either. he's been sleeping completely through the night very well fr a long time, thankfully. I've finally caught back up on sleep recently. I think I was a zonbie for the first year or so.
14:13:14 [pixel]
zonbie = zombie
14:13:27 [pixel]
although sometimes he doesn't like to go to sleep untuil 11:30 or so. hehe
14:13:39 [pixel]
and then I can't type at all the next day :)
14:16:34 [Ash]
hehehehe
14:16:37 [Ash]
Yeah, I know what you mean.
14:16:50 [Ash]
We've been lax about getting her to bed and it's led to laaaate bedtimes occasionally.
14:16:58 [Ash]
We're trying to get her back on a regular schedule now
14:20:27 [Ash]
wtf
14:20:31 [Ash]
somebody is hammering
14:20:33 [Ash]
grr!
14:21:50 [pixel]
nap times seem to really affect him. he usually takes about a 2 hr nap, around 1pm. but if that moves to 2 pm, he goes to bed an hour later. yesterday he passed out for a nap around 4pm., slept for an hour, we went to bed after midnight. I got up at 6:15am need more sleep :)
14:22:55 [Ash]
hehehe
14:22:57 [Ash]
yup
14:23:21 [Ash]
that's exactly what happens
14:28:29 [Ash]
* Ash iconifies irc
14:29:38 [redmonk]
*swoosh*
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14:40:26 [redmonk]
pixel: what os do you use
14:40:30 [redmonk]
mostly
14:41:33 [pixel]
mostly, Windows 2000.
14:41:52 [redmonk]
cool
14:42:11 [redmonk]
mac os x, myself. looking forward to new apple mac-in-a-rack today
14:42:21 [pixel]
I have 6 machines in my cube. 4 running windows 2k, one running mandrake, and one running MacOS9 (which rarely is turned on)
14:43:17 [pixel]
you know, I'm starting to like mozilla again.
14:43:32 [redmonk]
mmmmmm, Mozeeeela
14:43:55 [pixel]
wonder how I download new themes.
14:44:36 [redmonk]
no clue
14:44:46 [redmonk]
actually i think it may be done with a url
14:44:57 [redmonk]
(ie, moz can download and install the theme)
14:45:01 [redmonk]
but i don't know
14:45:10 [pixel]
hmm. oh well, 'll stick with whatI've got.
14:45:12 [redmonk]
.google mozilla themes
14:45:24 [redmonk]
yo! xena!
14:45:28 [pixel]
it sure is nice and fast though. and renders nicely for the most part.
14:45:31 [redmonk]
yeah
14:45:44 [pixel]
except my website doesn't render, of course. hehe
14:45:57 [redmonk]
wonder if anyone has done a winddows-native GUI version of mozilla?
14:46:05 [redmonk]
in the same lines as Chimera
14:46:06 [pixel]
netscape.
14:46:12 [pixel]
oh.
14:46:15 [redmonk]
which is a native mac os x version
14:46:16 [pixel]
native GUI.
14:46:19 [redmonk]
uhuh
14:46:25 [pixel]
I dunno... I haven;t seen one.
14:46:45 [redmonk]
Chimera is wicked fast - since the GUI is all native, just the rendering engine is gecko
14:46:57 [redmonk]
actually, all the network code and such is mozilla too
14:47:05 [redmonk]
just the gui is native
14:47:10 [redmonk]
it's sweet
14:47:23 [redmonk]
as soon as they get s few more features in, I'll prolly switch
14:47:36 [pixel]
very nice. much like the WebBrowser control for IE that can be plugged into any app.
14:48:21 [redmonk]
yeah, but i think chimera actually uses most of mozilla's unix codebase, just with the cocoa (native) GUI
14:52:06 [Ash]
new mac-in-a-rack today?
14:53:20 [pixel]
do they call the 4U version a "Big Mac in a Rack" ?
14:54:54 [Ash]
When are theses servers supposed to be announced?
14:55:12 [redmonk]
today
14:55:16 [redmonk]
no idea when
14:55:22 [redmonk]
my guess is 10-ish
14:55:25 [redmonk]
PST
14:55:47 [redmonk]
http://www.redmonk.net for a link
14:58:40 [redmonk]
http://www.thinksecret.com/features/rackmountevent.html
14:58:50 [redmonk]
3 hour media event starting at 9 PST
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15:09:21 [Ash]
cool
15:10:00 [Ash]
damn you thinksecret.com
15:10:03 [Ash]
it crashed mozilla
15:10:04 [Ash]
heh
15:18:30 [redmonk]
heh
15:23:08 [walloper]
<lilo> Hi all. Problems with our old hubs in Europe, and fortunately we have some new candidates to try.
15:23:44 [AaronSw-CA-US]
is the media event broadcast?
15:24:50 [redmonk]
i seriously doubt it
15:24:54 [redmonk]
but merhaps
15:24:57 [redmonk]
on satellite
15:25:04 [redmonk]
(merhaps? ;-))
15:25:28 [AaronSw-CA-US]
heh
15:25:31 [AaronSw-CA-US]
oops.
15:25:33 [AaronSw-CA-US]
* AaronSw-CA-US -> keynote
15:30:44 [pixel]
looks like you had a good time at google, aaron.
15:31:41 [AaronSw-CA-US]
yep, thanks
15:31:45 [AaronSw-CA-US]
wireless at poolside -- that's so wrong
15:35:08 [AaronSw-CA-US]
laters.
15:36:15 [Ash]
fwoosh
15:49:10 [walloper]
<lilo> "I lift this clavicle to worlds without number, and bring a new light to the Way, guiding this gate that all may prosper, those who guide and are guided, who light the Way and bask in the light so given....Behold, I open a new world."
15:49:22 [walloper]
<lilo> Please welcome lerouge.openprojects.net, in Paris, FR, EU!
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16:14:44 [pixel]
j j j jillum.
16:24:48 [jillium]
hello
16:40:09 [AaronSw-CA-US]
hi
16:47:23 [AaronSw-CA-US]
Google asked me to take down the photo of the photo of Al Gore.
16:47:52 [pixel]
no shit. hehehe.
16:50:51 [Morbus]
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16:54:39 [pixel]
yo morb.
16:56:50 [Morbus]
hey.
16:57:58 [pixel]
hey hey hey, it's Fat Albert.
16:58:46 [Morbus]
heh. heh.
16:58:51 [Morbus]
chocolate cake for breakfast!
16:59:34 [pixel]
hehe. mmmm good. it's got Flour, Eggs, Milk ...all the parts of a healthy breakfasst!
16:59:55 [Morbus]
yeaah, goat, yeah.
17:00:04 [Bensw|]
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17:00:04 [Morbus]
we rock.
17:00:12 [Bensw|]
aaron are you there
17:00:33 [AaronSw-CA-US]
hi
17:00:49 [Bensw|]
aaron what is the convertamatic url
17:01:05 [Morbus]
pixel: what were those albums i asked you to post? i can't find my notes.
17:01:08 [Bensw|]
ty
17:01:12 [Morbus]
man, i'm all messed up today. send me the email back if you cabn.
17:04:06 [pixel]
no prob.
17:04:57 [pixel]
sent.
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17:05:35 [Morbus]
thanks.
17:05:39 [Morbus]
i'm losing everything lately.
17:05:58 [pixel]
i understand.
17:07:44 [AaronSw-CA-US]
* AaronSw-CA-US -> charge
17:16:58 [Morbus]
only 8 more CDs.
17:16:59 [Morbus]
<G>
17:29:54 [Ash]
FWOOSH
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17:43:15 [redmonk]
hey all
17:50:17 [Morbus]
hey monkinator.
17:50:33 [redmonk]
morbie!
17:50:39 [jillzilla]
hey, monk, Morbus.
17:50:41 [Morbus]
how's life?
17:50:45 [Morbus]
i'm gonna work on ampheta tonight!
17:50:47 [Morbus]
yay!
17:50:47 [redmonk]
wish apple would hurry up and post a spec page on the Xserve
17:50:50 [jillzilla]
Morbus: woo!
17:50:51 [redmonk]
cool!
17:51:05 [redmonk]
jill!!!!!!!!!
17:51:10 [Morbus]
yeah! i know. jon udell has been mentinoing it lately.
17:51:11 [jillzilla]
* jillzilla waves enthusiastically.
17:51:16 [Morbus]
i just gotta get something better out there.
17:51:21 [Morbus]
do you want to be an alpha tester?
17:51:31 [Morbus]
if I work on it for three straight nights, I should have an alpha by the weekend.
17:51:34 [Morbus]
for win32 people./
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17:53:12 [jillzilla]
Well, if it isn't Gabe of W.
17:53:15 [jillzilla]
Long time, Gabe!
17:53:26 [GabeW]
heyh
17:53:45 [GabeW]
back from vacation (which I will not talk about right now)
17:54:01 [Morbus]
pixel is gonna be helping me out with ampheta too.
17:54:02 [jillzilla]
* jillzilla feels warned.
17:54:06 [Morbus]
or even more so than he has ;)
17:55:35 [Morbus]
hey jillzilla: would you believe i still haven't listened to that mp3?
17:55:40 [Morbus]
but I thank you for the Moby track.
17:56:37 [jillzilla]
Morbus: Hmm.
17:56:45 [Morbus]
Hmm?
17:56:52 [jillzilla]
* jillzilla has no blood sugar.
17:56:56 [jillzilla]
Getting something to eat...
18:11:59 [jillzilla]
* jillzilla feels better.
18:31:36 [Ash]
fwosh
18:32:41 [jillzilla]
Ash.
18:33:57 [Ash]
hi jillzilla
18:33:59 [Ash]
how are you doing?
18:34:02 [Ash]
* Ash is eating LUNCH
18:34:03 [Ash]
rawr
18:34:17 [jillzilla]
* jillzilla is a bit frantic today. Too much to do...
18:34:21 [Ash]
ick
18:34:23 [Ash]
I know what you mean.
18:34:27 [Ash]
I've been awake since 4:30am
18:34:37 [jillzilla]
I read about that in scrollback.
18:34:44 [jillzilla]
And now I want pictures of pixel's son. :-)
18:34:48 [Ash]
aaaahhhh
18:34:50 [Ash]
hehehehe
18:34:56 [jillzilla]
* jillzilla sympathizes.
18:35:00 [jillzilla]
The crawl does that from time to time.
18:35:06 [jillzilla]
Not quite the same as a child, though.
18:35:46 [jillzilla]
* jillzilla remembers getting peeved last year as her previous job when she was being routinely awakened in the middle of the night because of unstable software.
18:35:59 [jillzilla]
I remember saying, "If I wanted to wake up at random times every night, I would have a baby!"
18:36:19 [Ash]
Yeah, unstable software pisses me off
18:36:31 [Ash]
I've finally gotten things here calmed down
18:36:39 [Ash]
groupwise 6.0 was buggy as all hell
18:36:49 [Ash]
but SP1 fixed it
18:36:50 [Ash]
heh
18:47:22 [walloper]
<lilo> intentional restart of lerouge follows
18:47:38 [Morbus]
argh.
18:47:40 [Morbus]
i have so many pains.
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19:12:50 [Morbus]
sigh. i'm lonely.
19:16:04 [Ash]
Morbus: Alcohol loves you
19:16:12 [Ash]
it will be your friend!
19:16:19 [Morbus]
heh, heh. i was thinking of that recently.
19:16:23 [Morbus]
i have a decent amount in my household.
19:22:11 [pixel]
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19:23:09 [quasi]
Morbus: uhhhh, better start drinking to make sure it does not get too old ;)
19:25:01 [Morbus]
it gets better with age!
19:25:10 [Morbus]
i got aftershock, vodka, rum, some whisky, wine, etc.
19:25:14 [Morbus]
i hate beer. not a beer drinker.
19:26:37 [quasi]
Morbus: I think I would hate beer(or whatever you call it) too if I was in the land of Budweiser ;)
19:27:28 [Morbus]
heh, heh.
19:27:32 [Morbus]
i just never liked the taste.
19:27:36 [Morbus]
it doesn't sit with me.
19:27:40 [Morbus]
must be that acquired taste crap.
19:27:47 [Morbus]
howyadoin', btw?
19:28:51 [quasi]
Morbus: well, it just a question of getting some quality beer ;)
19:29:20 [quasi]
Morbus: but nevermind - more beer for the rest of us ;)
19:29:36 [Morbus]
heh, heh.
19:32:15 [quasi]
* quasi tries to keep his booze intake to a minimum - the ulzer does not like high alcohol content ;)
19:34:15 [Morbus]
i don't have an ulcer yet.
19:34:20 [Morbus]
maybe that should be my goal this year.
19:37:55 [quasi]
Morbus: not really - having to decide wether a whiskey is worth the pain usually isn't a lot of fun ;)
19:38:15 [Morbus]
heh, heh.
19:41:15 [quasi]
Morbus: trying to figure out what to do with that 16 year old Lagavulin has been a big problem recently ;)
19:44:48 [jillzilla]
quasi: Oh, 16 year Lagavulin!
19:44:53 [jillzilla]
* jillzilla dashes to Denmark.
19:45:50 [jillzilla]
And it isn't really very difficult to get good beer in the USA, at least in cities.
19:47:39 [jillzilla]
* jillzilla goes to grab some lunch.
19:48:54 [quasi]
jillzilla: at something like $40 it seemed like a good deal ;)
19:57:14 [Morbus]
* Morbus runs screaming into a wall.
19:57:39 [jillzilla]
quasi: Sounds like a lovely deal!
19:58:34 [jillzilla]
* jillzilla calls in the gnomes to take Morbus away.
19:58:49 [Morbus]
my nick name at one of my old jobs was gnomeboy
19:58:56 [Morbus]
whenever I used the computers, I was gnome.
19:59:53 [jillzilla]
* jillzilla starts writing a book: _From Gnome to Disease: the untold story of Morbus Iff_
19:59:59 [quasi]
heh
20:01:05 [redmonk]
as heard on /., re: new apple servers: "Nice Rack."
20:14:52 [Morbus]
heh, heh.
20:15:01 [Morbus]
amphetadesk alpha by friday. that's my milestone.
20:30:47 [redmonk]
schweet
20:31:12 [AaronSw-CA-US]
* AaronSw-CA-US blogs Brewster Khale's talk
20:36:14 [AaronSw-CA-US]
"Most loss is from programmer error. Solution: make another copy. He put a version in the new Library of Alexandria. The idea of having a copy of the Web in different cultures with swap agreements between them gets around the major bug of the original Library of Alexandria: it burned."
20:40:06 [AaronSw-CA-US]
they're looking for researchers interested in large content collections (linguists, socialogists, etc.).
20:40:23 [Morbus]
how large?
20:40:31 [Morbus]
i collect images ;)
20:41:44 [AaronSw-CA-US]
:)
20:41:50 [AaronSw-CA-US]
TimO just sat down next to me.
20:42:11 [Morbus]
oooH!
20:42:15 [Morbus]
* Morbus waves
20:42:18 [jillzilla]
rowr. I think this thing is finally running.
20:42:27 [jillzilla]
* jillzilla dashes off to the Westin to see if her pass is there.
20:44:51 [jillzilla]
argh, no, it's actually not running...
20:44:56 [jillzilla]
* jillzilla hits her head on the monitor.
20:45:04 [Morbus]
jill?
20:45:10 [Morbus]
look, AaronSw-CA-US's sitting next to TimO.
20:45:12 [jillzilla]
mm?
20:45:14 [Morbus]
your petty problems can wait.
20:45:14 [Morbus]
;)
20:45:16 [jillzilla]
Who?
20:45:24 [Morbus]
Tim O'Reilly.
20:45:47 [jillzilla]
* jillzilla attempts to look starstruck.
20:46:14 [Morbus]
heh, heh.
20:46:22 [jillzilla]
* jillzilla sobs. They've all died!
20:46:27 [jillzilla]
* jillzilla is miserable.
20:46:32 [Morbus]
who died?
20:46:45 [jillzilla]
my servers.
20:46:57 [jillzilla]
* jillzilla kicks an innocent passing puppy.
21:03:56 [Morbus]
bwahahaha.
21:03:59 [Morbus]
AaronSw-CA-US, from Scoble:
21:04:00 [Morbus]
[[[
21:04:00 [Morbus]
Aaron Schwartz is Young I just met Aaron Schwartz here at the WWW conference. Boy is he young. Wow, to be smart and young again. Seize the world, Aaron. The future is safe in your hands. (He's still in high school).
21:04:01 [Morbus]
]]]
21:04:33 [Morbus]
and I think he linked to the wrong AaronSw-CA-US too.
21:04:37 [Morbus]
aaronland.info.
21:04:57 [deltab]
as well as misspelling his name
21:05:03 [Morbus]
yup
21:05:31 [Morbus]
[[[
21:05:32 [Morbus]
Glenn Fleishman just wrote to warn that my eight-year-old son Patrick might get freaked out by watching Spider-man. He says it's way too intense for kids less than 10 years old. My son's answer? "He should worry about me hanging out with Dave [Winer]. Dave should be rated X." But, point well taken. Heck, Patrick's seen a lot of movies including Titanic and Perfect Storm. I know, I'm a bad parent.
21:05:32 [Morbus]
[[[
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]]]
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]]]
21:05:38 [Morbus]
heheheh.
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21:20:22 [syn|ack]
morn #swhack
21:20:39 [Morbus]
[[[
21:20:43 [Morbus]
Distributed power-strip distribution There are not enough electrical outlets at the O'Reilly Emerging Technologies Conference -- yet. Kottke, Metafilter Matt and Lane and I just took a roadtrip in my rented Hertzmobile and found a MicroCenter (Matt: "Why is *Micro*center so *big*?") and I bought twenty cheapie power strips. Now I'm wandering around the conference, handing them out with the instruction: "Find a place where there aren't enough electrica
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from Boing Boing.
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oOH, i see AaronSw-CA-US! http://www.actuallyworks.com/panopticon/
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i think i may can support for OS 9 / AmphetaDesk.
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depends how easy it is with the new code.
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* rik
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wow, this conference rocks
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just talked with Brewster Khale and he wants me to run the archiving @ home project
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and now i'm sitting with matt haughy and the trotts
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(ben and mena)
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ihm, where's sbp?
22:11:23 [AaronSw-CA-US]
heh, danny o'brien has a large poster of the Xseroes
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it's Kahle btw
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the what?
22:11:37 [AaronSw-CA-US]
yeah, i noticed that
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i keep screwing it up
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basically to turn archiverProxy to output arc files and then send those to the presidio
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arc files: http://www.alexa.com/company/arcformat.html
22:13:30 [deltab]
yeah
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I was thinking you could make that distributed, though
22:14:01 [AaronSw-CA-US]
Yeah, that's the next step. It'd be sort of slow, tho...
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Anyone know some good Movable Type editors for OS X?
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I can't get BlogApp to work...
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MORBAS
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wmf and xoot at the same time?
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that's really fucked up.
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er, close to the same time.
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stupid time stamps.
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no, this is xoot's clone
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i cloned him right up to dns
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isn't it cool?
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anyone home?
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hi
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hey tav
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rehi
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anyone know of a working smtp server?
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at this oreilly conference?
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to relay from?
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Oreilly ET conference
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what's your IP?
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you might want to join #etcon, BTW
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192.168.5.140
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that's a local IP...
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smtprelay 171.64.136.254
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isn't that stanford's open mail server?
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join #etcon
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howdy
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anyone know of a working outgoing smtp server for ETcon?
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try mail.swartzfam.com
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it shoudl work for you
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let's see.
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nope
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is that an open smtp relay?
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no, it's just for specific IPs.
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will it work with the 802.11 here?
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doesn't appear to
23:24:51 [AaronSw-CA-US]
it depends what your IP is
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it's a local IP. it's natting
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right. so what's the IP that the server sees?
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what do you get from http://www.whatismyipaddress.com/
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let's see. anyone know of a site with a basic cgi test?
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ah, that will work
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err http://megawx.aws.com/support/faq/software/ip.asp
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12.44.177.146
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smtprelay 12.44.177.146
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ok, try now
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hmm
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nope
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hm, beats me then
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rowr
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* Ash rowr
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rowr, ash.
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hi jill, how's it going?
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not bad. Just came back from my brief ET adventure.
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(Emerging Fads, that is, not off-planet)
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ah
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I wish I could be at elite conferences. Woe is me.
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Heh heh.
23:34:42 [jillzilla]
I can't say that everybody who is everybody in p2p was there. But it's definitely true that a lot of people who are a lot of people were there.
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It's rael!
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* Ash wonders if rael has tree files
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* jillzilla deleted Ash.
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ouch, that hurt!
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* jillzilla looks for the ^Z key.
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jillzilla: How's your deleting spree going at google?
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Still removing content at an amazing rate/
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ehehe
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Rashid is plugging google
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wmf: Cool. In what sense?
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it's better than the dewey decimal system
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throw away the filesystem!
23:36:28 [Ash]
So what happened to the infoanarchist dinner
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We ate chips. The waiter spilled eight glasses of water on Damien, which was impressive. Damien had little rivulets running off of him.
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these are old ideas
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Then the others arrived. And we ate chips.
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heh
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CHIPS!
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And then we ordered food. and drinks.
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And drue said shocking things.
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And I believe Damien slowly dried.
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jillzilla: Exciting!
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And I met some people, and giggled with at least one.
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And got involved in a conversation about the imminent subjection of the BBC.
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parc, mirrorware, alan cooper, etc have all talke about this
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even apple
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And then bram and I went to my house, because bram was crashing on my floor, and stayed up late talking about BitTorrent and (in my case) working.
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that's cool
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i think i'm done with work for today
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FUCK WORK
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thank you.
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* Ash bows
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* jillzilla salutes Ash.
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* Ash returns the salute, Sgt. Bilko-style.
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"You look fabulous, have you lost weight?!"
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