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01:19:24 <AaronSw-CA-US> wmf!
01:19:24 <AaronSw-CA-US> oops, he must have left
01:19:50 <AaronSw-CA-US> to his room? oh, i bet the conf has wireless
01:27:49 <AaronSw-CA-US> TV: "Are your kids constantly on the computer?"
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01:31:14 <AaronSw-CA-US> * AaronSw-CA-US -> lobby
01:31:32 <syn|ack> AaronSw-CA-US: are you walking around while on irc? :)
01:31:48 <syn|ack> .google REST-wiki
01:59:05 <AaronSw-CA-US> wmf: "i'm not into the pundit thing anymore
01:59:06 <AaronSw-CA-US> "
01:59:17 <AaronSw-CA-US> s|a, now i'm sitting in the lobby
01:59:42 <AaronSw-CA-US> chatting w/ wmf and cory
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02:02:45 <AaronSw-CA-US> * AaronSw-CA-US waves
02:04:14 <AaronSw-CA-US> wmf: "man, there's no need for you to wave to me on IRC"
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02:18:54 <syn|ack> roflmao
02:19:05 <syn|ack> you guys are a tad bit crazy
02:19:10 <syn|ack> just a 'tad'
02:23:01 <syn|ack> maybe wmf was too assuming? Maybe you where waving to IRC in general and he just happen to be in the localized direction of your waving?
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04:36:31 <jillium> * jillium waves.
04:36:35 <jillium> * jillium waves again to anyone who might be at the Westin.
04:36:48 <jillium> I'm turning up around 11:45 or midnight, I think.
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08:13:48 <s|a> hi guys
08:13:58 <jillium> * jillium waves to synack.
08:14:02 <jillium> I just returned from meeting AaronSw.
08:14:14 <s|a> heh, he gets around that boy :P
08:14:25 <jillium> So he does.  :-)
08:14:27 <s|a> you are sure up late, no?
08:15:04 <jillium> Yes, a bit.
08:15:12 <jillium> 1:15.
08:16:28 <s|a> what did you and AaronSw-CA-US do?
08:16:36 <s|a> or is that a bit private? :)
08:17:10 <jillium> Heh.  We hung out at the hotel where the conference is taking place.
08:17:21 <s|a> he made me laugh pretty hard at work today
08:17:29 <s|a> apparently wmf joined and he waved to him
08:17:45 <s|a> although at the same time, he was sitting in the lounge at the hotel talking with him
08:17:56 <s|a> wmf left straight away
08:18:17 <s|a> then said, "man, don't wave to me when i'm right in front of you" :)
08:18:22 <s|a> made me chuckle
08:19:09 <jillium> hehehehe
08:31:31 <s|a> * s|a says to himself, "and the world is round..."
08:31:39 <s|a> not flat!
08:33:35 <s|a> * s|a is jealous
08:40:56 <walloper> <Matt> simak.openprojects.net will be disappearing for a short while, homefully back within half an hour. Just in case you wonder when there's a split. :&)
08:41:05 <s|a> walloper: hush :P
08:41:43 <jillium> * jillium dashes out to get her sheets before she falls asleep on the bare bed.
08:48:35 <s|a> * s|a nogs
08:51:01 <s|a> * s|a nogs
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14:20:17 <Ash> * Ash fwooshes
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14:35:33 <pixel> hello all.
14:58:25 <Ash> g'morning, pixel
15:01:08 <pixel> how're you this morning?
15:09:21 <walloper> <lilo> quit/join on simak to refresh some files
15:12:06 <Ash> I'm doing alright, how are you?
15:15:37 <pixel> I'm alive so far.
15:55:38 <Ash> good
15:55:39 <Ash> yeah, me too
15:56:09 <pixel> good thing.  if we were dead, we'd have a real hard time communicating.
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16:15:34 <walloper> <lilo> Hi all.  We're testing a new rotation server today under major load for the first time, please bear with us.
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16:56:41 <pixel> morb!
17:19:26 <AaronSw-CA-US> Ooh, we're in the NYTimes: http://www.nytimes.com/2002/05/13/technology/13FREE.html
17:19:51 <Morbus> login?
17:20:10 <Morbus> nevermind
17:21:23 <pixel> google for Creative Commons, and Aaron is #2.
17:21:43 <AaronSw-CA-US> yeah. ;-)
17:22:58 <Morbus> argh.
17:23:00 <Morbus> sigh.
17:23:00 <pixel> gonna embed RDf into digital media?
17:23:03 <Morbus> not in the mood.
17:23:07 <Morbus> been looking into it, pixel.
17:23:26 <Morbus> i've got the fork thread on photographic rdf by danbri still in my mbox
17:23:33 <pixel> hehe I meant aaron =)
17:23:41 <Morbus> oh. well, screw you ;)
17:23:46 <pixel> heehe
17:23:58 <AaronSw-CA-US> Heh, I want to.
17:24:08 <pixel> I gave up on embedding my photoRDf stuff into the JPGs. pain in the ass.
17:24:43 <Morbus> * Morbus dl's rc2
17:24:48 <AaronSw-CA-US> hm, someone is sending klez out in my name <sigh />
17:24:57 <Morbus> heh, heh.
17:25:03 <Morbus> happened to me twice :)
17:25:31 <pixel> Anyone tried Groove? is it useful?
17:26:01 <AaronSw-CA-US> Groove's pretty cool. I expect it would be useful if you were working on a project of all windows-users.
17:26:42 <pixel> hmm  I've been looking for something to help manage projects, something that's more useful than MS project.
17:26:43 <Morbus> * Morbus nods
17:26:59 <Morbus> to me, it was like "ooOh! mass media groove!" and now no one cares about it. haven't heard a peep for a long time.
17:27:08 <Morbus> i won't use it since it's not crossplatform.
17:27:19 <Morbus> what good is a community app when you're got prejudice?
17:27:23 <pixel> platform snob
17:27:31 <Morbus> that's right :)
17:27:40 <pixel> hehe
17:27:42 <Morbus> i use windows a decent amount, but its a principle thing.
17:27:44 <AaronSw-CA-US> It's still cool tho.
17:27:57 <pixel> I'll have to install and try it then.
17:28:01 <Morbus> i have no issue with using windows software, but if its somehting i'm gonna use a lot, then i want it crossplatform, or at least, open source.
17:28:19 <pixel> youngsters.
17:29:00 <Morbus> settle-for-less-ers.
17:30:39 <Morbus> rc2 feels more responsive to me.
17:30:46 <AaronSw-CA-US> rc2 of what?
17:30:53 <Morbus> mozilla.
17:31:04 <pixel> it's in your head.
17:31:18 <Morbus> probably.
17:31:25 <Morbus> at least on the Mac it does.
17:31:31 <Morbus> just barely got it on win32.
17:32:03 <AaronSw-CA-US> heh: http://www.advogato.org/person/forrest/diary.html?start=27
17:32:40 <Morbus> heh, heh.
17:35:31 <Morbus> [[[
17:35:32 <Morbus> [13:35] * AJC will be going to forage for food shortly 
17:35:32 <Morbus> [13:35] <rp> forage??? 
17:35:32 <Morbus> [13:35] <Morbus> like a squirrel!  
17:35:33 <Morbus> [13:35] <Morbus> a squirrel in heat! 
17:35:33 <Morbus> [13:36] * Morbus puffs up his cheeks.
17:35:33 <Morbus> [13:36] <Morbus> mmfmF! 
17:35:35 <Morbus> ]]]]
17:36:43 <rik> hahaha
17:36:46 <rik> morbus
17:36:51 <rik> i found an old email from you.
17:37:09 <Morbus> yeah?
17:37:16 <Morbus> how old? what's it say? am I debonair?
17:37:23 <rik> heheh
17:37:24 <rik> * rik finds.
17:38:28 <rik> it would appear to be  schema
17:38:29 <rik> in html
17:38:33 <rik> (bad html)
17:38:40 <rik> which would explain why the CCG never went anywhere :)
17:38:48 <Morbus> hmmm?
17:39:05 <rik> wait no
17:39:12 <rik> it's a movie database.
17:39:21 <Morbus> aahhh. right.
17:39:36 <rik> * rik shrugs at all his little feline shoulders.
17:41:36 <Morbus> that's an old one, alright.
17:41:38 <Morbus> a few months ago.
17:42:11 <rik> * rik nods
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17:46:12 <redmonk> *BAMPH*
17:46:12 <redmonk> * redmonk appears
17:46:22 <Morbus> redmonk!
17:49:44 <redmonk> you seen the screenies from jaguar yet? looks cooooooool
17:49:47 <redmonk> hang on
17:50:08 <redmonk> here's one
17:50:09 <redmonk> http://www.theregus.com/content/54/24914.html
17:50:23 <redmonk> this is the best one
17:50:24 <redmonk> http://www.thinksecret.com/features/jaguarfindersystem/
17:52:17 <Morbus> lol: http://www.thinksecret.com/features/jaguarfindersystem/images/beachball.html
17:52:22 <Morbus> a aqua spod. awesome.
17:52:28 <redmonk> aquaball!
17:52:35 <Morbus> heheh
17:55:58 <Morbus> wtf?
17:56:06 <redmonk> ???
17:56:08 <Morbus> mouse wheeling is fucked up in moz rc2.
17:56:22 <redmonk> ow. glad i didn't upgrade yet
17:56:28 <Morbus> i mousewheel down, and then move the mouse, and it snaps the window up to where you started the wheel
17:56:40 <redmonk> ouch
17:56:57 <Morbus> oh.
17:57:03 <redmonk> oh?
17:57:07 <redmonk> PEBCAK?
17:57:12 <Morbus> well, if I go from "system default" to "scroll up and down" in the preferences, then it works.
17:57:19 <Morbus> didn't have to do that in rc1.
17:57:23 <redmonk> ah
18:12:33 <redmonk> redmonk has changed the topic to: PEBCAK
18:14:53 <Morbus> monk: where's your wishlist?
18:15:34 <redmonk> ah. need to make one
18:15:39 <redmonk> i keep meaning to
18:15:41 <redmonk> hang on
18:18:14 <redmonk> ugh
18:18:20 <redmonk> moz died on me
18:18:48 <Morbus> gasp?
18:18:50 <Morbus> !
18:19:01 <redmonk> yeah, i know!
18:19:11 <Morbus> i haven't had moz die on me in a good long time.
18:19:37 <redmonk> yeah - and my dock is unresponsive, even after relaunching the finder
18:19:39 <redmonk> strange
18:19:49 <redmonk> it's been a while since i've rebooted, perhaps i should
18:19:52 <Morbus> hmMM>
18:19:57 <Morbus> ever heard of rateyourmusic.com?
18:20:02 <Morbus> i keep seeing requests to it in my moz window.
18:20:09 <Morbus> not sure if its pepcak yet. hold on ;)
18:20:29 <redmonk> rateyourmusic is used by a number of blogs for their comments service
18:20:46 <redmonk> see http://www.shiftedlibrarian.ccom for an example
18:21:20 <redmonk> * redmonk reboots
18:22:18 <Morbus> ah
18:24:33 <pixel> new version of PerlMX:  http://www.activestate.com/Products/PerlMx/?_x=1
18:25:33 <pixel> wish it supported winders.
18:25:54 <Morbus> pixel: right a POP proxy ;)
18:25:58 <Morbus> er, write, even.
18:26:18 <Morbus> on spamassassin,t hey're looking to have someone write a popproxy that would login to the user's normal pop3 server.
18:26:23 <pixel> or I could setup a linux box at home.
18:26:44 <Morbus> its basically for people who can't get SA installed on their server, so the popproxy would dl from the real server, filter it all through a local SA, and then give it to the client
18:26:52 <quasi> Morbus: that should be fairly simple, right?
18:26:57 <Morbus> it should be, yeah.
18:27:07 <pixel> seems like it's pretty simple and straightforward.
18:27:33 <quasi> Morbus: does SA work well?
18:28:21 <Morbus> quasi: yeah, but it is a resource hog.
18:28:24 <Morbus> i had to take it off my main server.
18:28:28 <Morbus> it doubled the current load.
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18:28:53 <quasi> hmmm - what then?
18:29:16 <pixel> perlMX looks very nice.
18:29:25 <pixel> might be a resource hog too though.
18:29:46 <quasi> pixel: isn't it payware?
18:31:51 <pixel> being that it's from activestate,. it's probably free for personal use, pay for commercial.
18:32:15 <pixel> actually, looks like it's pay only.
18:32:19 <pixel> bummer.
18:32:21 <quasi> yeah
18:32:34 <pixel> I shouldn't assume =)
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18:33:43 <pixel> you' can't even download an eval, you have to fill out a form and "a representative will contact you."  which translates to "some low paid sales guy that works off a quota will give you a call and harass you about buying more copies than you need, and by the time he's done talking you'll have paid us many thousands more just so the jackass will shutup."
18:33:46 <quasi> at least there is a 21 day free trial if anyone wants to give it a spin
18:34:02 <quasi> pixel: heh
18:34:41 <pixel> I would, but the last time a sales guy called me, i let my 1-1/2 year old son talk to him. hehehe
18:34:56 <jillzilla> Is Aaron here?
18:35:05 <jillzilla> * jillzilla waves belatedly.
18:35:12 <pixel> lo jillz.
18:35:18 <jillzilla> hiya, pixel.
18:35:20 <quasi> pixel: just give the a 900 number ;)
18:35:34 <pixel> hehe good idea.
18:35:43 <pixel> I usually give them 1-502-555-1212
18:36:09 <pixel> that's directory information, plug in any area code.
18:38:34 <quasi> * quasi me has one of those easy phone no's that gets wrong number calls a bit too often - I tend to use those callers as fax.no ;)
18:38:43 <quasi> -me ;)
18:39:01 <pixel> ehe
18:40:17 <quasi> * quasi suddenly remembers http://t.wheel.dk/~toftum/Taliban-NoAnsweringMachine.mp3
19:04:25 <Ash> jillzilla: I'm here now
19:04:27 <Ash> Thanks for asking
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19:31:22 <Morbus> phoeey.
19:31:24 <Morbus> i need less work to do.
19:31:34 <Morbus> so I can add better work to do.
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19:55:26 <walloper> <lilo> One of the rotation servers hiccupped, we're taking a look at it now.
19:57:34 <Ash> yeah, you suck lilo
19:58:36 <quasi> * quasi agrees
19:58:43 <Ash> hehe
19:58:44 <Ash> YEAH
19:58:52 <Ash> Ash has changed the topic to: http://lilofree.net/
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20:09:03 <walloper> <lilo> Please pass it on.  #secrets is a bot channel, please avoid joining as there is an autokline on it.
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20:47:56 <walloper> <lilo> "I lift this clavicle to worlds without number, and bring a new light to the Way, guiding this gate that all may prosper, those who guide and are guided, who light the Way and bask in the light so given....Behold, I open a new world."
20:48:06 <walloper> <lilo> Please locate verne.openprojects.net, a hidden hub, located somewhere.
20:48:44 <walloper> <lilo> s/locate/welcome/
20:48:56 <walloper> <lilo> Boy, I hate it when I mess hose up :)
20:49:04 <walloper> <lilo> +t
21:04:32 <AaronSw-CA-US> Google rocks!
21:04:49 <quasi> it does?
21:04:52 <jillzilla> AaronSw-CA-US: D'ohh!  Right after you left I walked upstairs and ran into someone who wanted to meet you.  
21:04:56 <jillzilla> * jillzilla grumbles.
21:05:12 <AaronSw-CA-US> Ugh... who?
21:05:47 <jillzilla> I don't do coworker names online.  :-(
21:08:05 <walloper> <lilo> hmmm, had a bit of a hubbing geometry problem with the new hub, fixed it (one small server split and rejoined)
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21:28:23 <AaronSw-CA-US> first batch of photos up: http://www.aaronsw.com/photos/google/
21:28:57 <deltab> no date? :-)
21:29:50 <AaronSw-CA-US> I figured that a date would be silly for the first url since I didn't know the necessary granularity.
21:30:03 <AaronSw-CA-US> And I probably won't go on a similar photo spree again. :)
21:30:37 <deltab> heh
21:32:24 <AaronSw-CA-US> I guess I should take a photo of the swag I got.
21:32:49 <AaronSw-CA-US> My camera ran out of batteries at the end and I left the charger at the hotel. :-(
21:35:52 <Ash> http://www.aaronsw.com/photos/google/IMG_1559.JPG/view
21:35:52 <Ash> lol
21:36:31 <AaronSw-CA-US> that's the famed query scroller ;)
21:36:35 <AaronSw-CA-US> "britney spears" bare
21:36:36 <AaronSw-CA-US> heh
21:36:47 <Ash> yeah, i know
21:36:47 <Ash> hehehe
21:37:05 <Morbus> bwahahaha
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21:37:29 <jillzilla> * jillzilla bingles.  Ooooh, sbp.
21:37:34 <jillzilla> * jillzilla waves.
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21:37:39 <Ash> hey jillzilla
21:37:47 <AaronSw-CA-US> Heh, that was quick
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21:37:57 <AaronSw-CA-US> hey sbp!
21:37:58 <jillzilla> hey, Ash.
21:38:08 <Ash> I didn't know they let you take photos inside super secret google HQ
21:38:18 <Morbus> heh: http://radio.weblogs.com/0100887/2002/05/10.html#a231
21:38:20 <AaronSw-CA-US> yeah, they said I couldn't take photos fo a couple things tho
21:38:32 <AaronSw-CA-US> 1) whiteboards 2) the crayon graph of Google hits over time
21:38:42 <Ash> ahhh
21:38:55 <AaronSw-CA-US> I need more space on my camera, there was a bunch of stuff i didn't have space to take photos of
21:39:03 <AaronSw-CA-US> sbp, http://www.aaronsw.com/photos/google/
21:39:41 <Ash> Oh, no photos of you and jill at lunch?
21:39:56 <jillzilla> He avoided taking pictures of me.
21:40:08 <jillzilla> He focused instead on interesting stuff. 
21:40:39 <Ash> hehe
21:41:00 <AaronSw-CA-US> I got a photo of jill at the end but i ran out of camera batts before i could download it
21:41:34 <Ash> http://www.aaronsw.com/photos/google/IMG_1589.JPG/view <- what's that?
21:41:58 <AaronSw-CA-US> the human genome, annotated
21:42:04 <Ash> ahhhh
21:42:13 <jillzilla> Ash:  duh.   :-)
21:42:21 <Ash> heh heh
21:42:46 <Ash> Like I'm supposed to know what the human genome (annotated) looks like. Shouldn't it be a big helix or something?
21:42:48 <Ash> Hehehe.
21:43:49 <Morbus> i'm happy that Udell linked to ampheta. that's cool
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21:47:37 <syn|ack> hi guys
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22:00:52 <redmonk> morbus: re:udell -> uRI?
22:02:24 <AaronSw-CA-US> i think it was http://radio.weblogs.com/0100887/2002/05/10.html#a231
22:02:31 <AaronSw-CA-US> ooh, looks like radio upgd to apache2
22:08:39 <Ash> Morbus, you here?
22:09:32 <rik> aaron...
22:09:45 <rik> img_1559.jpg
22:10:03 <AaronSw-CA-US> yes?
22:10:07 <rik> /photos/google/IMG_1559.JPG/view in fact.
22:10:09 <rik> uhm
22:10:15 <rik> what the heck's going on therE?
22:10:38 <AaronSw-CA-US> it's a sampling of google queries
22:10:47 <rik> aha
22:10:47 <jillzilla> One query a second is displayed in the lobby.
22:10:54 <AaronSw-CA-US> it's projected onto a wall above the receptionist
22:10:55 <Ash> rik: that's the queries that AaronSw last made
22:10:58 <rik> oh. right.
22:11:06 <AaronSw-CA-US> * AaronSw-CA-US smacks AaronSw-CA-US
22:11:08 <AaronSw-CA-US> err Ash
22:11:08 <rik> see, that would explain why persian kitty is near uruguay
22:11:09 <AaronSw-CA-US> argh.
22:11:12 <Ash> rik: Apparently our AaronSw is into britney spears
22:11:18 <rik> heh
22:11:21 <Ash> * Ash chuckles
22:11:33 <rik> that would explain why brittney spears is near snuff pr0n
22:12:47 <rik> dude. that photo album *rocks*.
22:13:00 <Ash> yeah, i agree with rik
22:13:04 <Ash> I wish I could go visit google.
22:13:06 <Ash> heheh
22:13:43 <Ash> http://www.aaronsw.com/photos/google/IMG_1583.JPG/view <- what are those white things?
22:13:45 <rik> * rik suspects he's going to be running Zope soon.
22:13:55 <AaronSw-CA-US> the famed bread makers
22:14:18 <Ash> I was not aware of the famous google bread makers.
22:14:32 <jillzilla> Also the famous Google toaster oven.
22:14:36 <rik> bread makers?
22:14:38 <rik> cool.
22:14:41 <Ash> Oh, I have one exactly like that.
22:14:51 <jillzilla> And a glimpse of the treasured Google espresso maker, on the left.
22:14:52 <AaronSw-CA-US> I was not aware until today, but they are apparently seen on the website.
22:15:05 <AaronSw-CA-US> heh: http://3e.org/nota/archives/001531.html
22:15:08 <jillzilla> It's too bad that you can't read the sign on the microwave.
22:15:17 <jillzilla> It just looks like a white strip.
22:15:37 <AaronSw-CA-US> What does it say?
22:15:39 <rik> it says: "this makes things hot"
22:16:05 <AaronSw-CA-US> "One box to make you hotter, one box to make you cold."
22:16:23 <rik> one box to keep them warm
22:16:27 <AaronSw-CA-US> * AaronSw-CA-US sings Go Ask Google
22:16:36 <rik> and one to find them
22:16:37 <jillzilla> "TAKE SOUPS OUT OF CONTAINERS      METAL AND MICROWAVE EQUALS SMOKE"
22:16:38 <rik> (the menu!)
22:17:00 <rik> heh
22:17:05 <jillzilla> It's even in all caps.
22:17:08 <AaronSw-CA-US> * AaronSw-CA-US laughs. I am so not opening that microwave.
22:17:09 <jillzilla> * jillzilla just went to check.
22:17:18 <rik> * rik notes the cez+microwave incident
22:17:23 <jillzilla> oh?
22:17:30 <rik> well, imagine nutella
22:17:30 <jillzilla> * jillzilla hasn't heard a cez story in quite some time.
22:17:33 <rik> but cold
22:17:41 <rik> so it doesn't spread
22:17:44 <jillzilla> cold nutella...this I can do...
22:17:49 <rik> or rather it wouldn't had he opened it.
22:18:01 <rik> so, he decided to microwave it, before opening it, to soften it.
22:18:09 <redmonk> owwwww...
22:18:14 <rik> there are several problems with this.,
22:18:23 <rik> 1) the container is a thermosoftening plastic.
22:18:32 <rik> 2) the lid is also  thermosoftening plastic
22:18:41 <rik> 3) the metal foil which he hadn't removed.
22:19:08 <rik> this resulted in burning
22:19:12 <rik> expanding
22:19:15 <rik> and explosion
22:19:27 <rik> *KAPOW* mmmm chocolately.. but HOT!
22:19:27 <redmonk> hoorah! that would have been a sight
22:19:34 <redmonk> (and smell!)
22:19:41 <rik> aparently it was.
22:19:45 <rik> you'd have to ask the choric.
22:20:21 <redmonk> ok, i'll bite - what's the choric?
22:20:44 <rik> --- [choric] (chris@void.printf.net) : Chris Ball
22:20:44 <rik> --- [choric] #infoanarchy #brits 
22:20:46 <rik> the choric.
22:21:28 <AaronSw-CA-US> TEH CORYC
22:21:43 <redmonk> ah
22:22:28 <jillzilla> AaronSw-CA-US: CHoric!  
22:22:34 <Ash> So, there's this house about 3 blocks away from mine that I drive past the other day
22:22:38 <jillzilla> Didn't I just tell you how to say that?  :-)
22:22:41 <jillzilla> * jillzilla shakes her finger.
22:22:47 <Ash> s/the other day/every day/
22:22:47 <AaronSw-CA-US> Yes, yes. But you didn't tell jeffk.
22:22:56 <rik> JEEFK!^!&*()£!
22:23:06 <Ash> They have a HUGE picture of Abraham Lincoln in the front window of their house.
22:23:12 <Ash> Does anyone besides me find this odd?
22:23:26 <rik> only if the stovepipe hat is emitting smoke.
22:23:33 <jillzilla> AaronSw-CA-US: what was I thinking?  ;-)
22:25:06 <AaronSw-CA-US> I think it is time to put shoes on and go downstairs.
22:27:39 <AaronSw-CA-US> * AaronSw-CA-US -> schmooze in lobby.
22:28:25 <rik> there's a good yiddish word.
22:28:28 <rik> schmooze.
22:28:40 <jillzilla> it's a *lovely* yiddish word.
22:28:45 <jillzilla> As is "yutz".
22:28:53 <rik> that's the point of yiddish. all the connotations
22:29:03 <jillzilla> indeed.
22:29:09 <rik> it's the best words with the most connotations from every country we've ever been thrown out of
22:29:14 <rik> same with the food.
22:29:47 <jillzilla> * jillzilla remembers someone trying to explain the connotational differences between "schlong" and "schlemiel".
22:29:47 <rik> * rik wonders how many other people in the channel would be able to read a yiddish newspaper (yes, there are newsppaers published in yiddish)
22:30:07 <rik> heh
22:30:08 <jillzilla> Jeez, rik, do you really think most of us don't know there are newspapers published in yiddish?
22:30:21 <rik> well.
22:30:21 <rik> yes
22:30:27 <rik> i didn't find out for ages
22:30:29 <jillzilla> Hmph.
22:30:35 <jillzilla> Well, actually you might be right.
22:30:38 <rik> heh
22:30:45 <rik> istr i've told you before.
22:30:49 <rik> on the phone.
22:31:06 <jillzilla> I heard a lovely radio show the other day about a singer who did a weekly show where he sang only in Yiddish. 
22:31:13 <jillzilla> I want some of the tapes!
22:31:15 <rik> oh cool.
22:31:17 <rik> me too
22:31:19 <jillzilla> They translated EVERYTHING into Yiddish.
22:31:34 <rik> cool
22:31:37 <jillzilla> But I've also been to NYC.  And I have a lot of Jewish friends.
22:31:38 <redmonk> jill: NPR: The Yiddish Radio series, right? ;-)
22:31:43 <jillzilla> redmonk: I dunno.
22:31:47 <jillzilla> It was NPR...
22:31:55 <redmonk> i heard the same story
22:32:05 <redmonk> they're doing a whole series on it
22:32:43 <jillzilla> Oh, I want to hear them all.
22:32:59 <redmonk> check out NPR.org
22:33:04 <jillzilla> Sadly, the point of the series is to catalogue Yiddish radio in the USA because it's a dying breed.
22:33:07 <redmonk> they have streams of many of their shows
22:33:10 <jillzilla> nice.
22:33:13 <redmonk> yes
22:33:21 <jillzilla> * jillzilla puts that on the extensive todo list.
22:36:31 <rik> add "hug rik" too.
22:37:11 <Ash> I heard that story, it was excellent.
22:37:24 <jillzilla> rik:  uri?  So I can add it to my bookmarks?
22:37:52 <rik> not an uri
22:37:55 <rik> just a thing to do later.
22:38:05 <Ash> hug://rikrose.net/
22:38:17 <jillzilla> rik:  (that was a joke, my friend)
22:38:24 <jillzilla> Ash:  I love it!
22:38:27 <rik> :)
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22:38:33 <Ash> jillzilla: Hehehehe.
22:38:40 <Ash> jillzilla: I'll have the hug rfc done soon.
22:38:53 <jillzilla> * jillzilla pays Ash's salary for two months so he can finish it full time.
22:39:05 <Ash> hehehehe
22:39:14 <Ash> I wish.
22:39:17 <Ash> I so wish.
22:39:18 <Ash> hehehe
22:39:23 <jillzilla> heheh
22:39:28 <Ash> Then maybe I could get the base of my network management software done.
22:39:29 <Ash> Grr.
22:40:04 <deltab> where 'rfc' stand for 'request for cuddles'
22:40:34 <jillzilla> * jillzilla giggles.
22:40:39 <Ash> lol!
22:40:46 <rik> :)
22:40:52 <AaronSw-CA-US> Howdy
22:41:00 <rik> * rik spreads arms, and looks at jill
22:41:08 <jillzilla> * jillzilla blushes, then hugs.
22:41:15 <jillzilla> I accidentally assaulted wmf last night.
22:41:35 <rik> * rik smiles
22:41:36 <rik> how?
22:41:41 <Ash> "accidentally"
22:41:59 <jillzilla> I had hugged AccordionGuy, and then zooko, and I was on my way to hug AaronSw, and in the middle was wmf, politely holding out his hand, which I didn't even notice in the hugging frenzy, so I hugged him.  He seemed unnerved.
22:42:00 <jillzilla> Oops.
22:42:08 <AaronSw-CA-US> Ah, I saw that radio show too. Part of NPR's Yiddish Radio Project.
22:42:12 <Ash> <jillzilla> I thought he said rfc when he really meant handshake://wmf/
22:42:15 <rik> heheh
22:42:26 <jillzilla> what Ash said.
22:42:33 <jillzilla> I had hugging momentum!
22:42:34 <rik> * rik watches Ring 2
22:42:34 <jillzilla> I couldn't stop!
22:42:41 <Ash> Oh, so wmf's not one of those hugging people
22:42:42 <jillzilla> All right!
22:42:46 <Ash> * Ash makes a note to hug wmf if he ever meets him
22:42:47 <jillzilla> I'm supposed to be getting things done!
22:42:57 <Ash> jillzilla: Give in to the irc, abandon all hope of work
22:42:59 <rik> heh
22:42:59 <jillzilla> And YOU PEOPLE persist in being INTERESTING!
22:43:01 <rik> * rik is a hugger.
22:43:11 <rik> * rik juggles in front of jill
22:43:12 <jillzilla> if rik meets me, he will be both hugger and hugged!
22:43:16 <Ash> haha
22:43:20 <Ash> well, it's time for me to bike home
22:43:25 <Ash> so I'll see all you guys later
22:43:31 <Ash> FWOOSH!
22:43:31 <jillzilla> And it's time for me to make you folks into an icon so I can actually work.
22:43:35 <rik> we'll be all snuggly non-let-go-ey.
22:43:41 <rik> epe!
22:43:43 <AaronSw-CA-US> Heh, it's double funny because wmf was talking about you stalking him earlier.
22:43:43 <Ash> OW MY HEAD, DON'T ICONIFY ME
22:43:44 <Ash> hehehe
22:43:48 <rik> don't confine us to a small box!
22:43:53 <rik> how can i scmaper if i'm in a box?!
22:43:56 <AaronSw-CA-US> * AaronSw-CA-US wonders if his comment got thru...
22:43:59 <jillzilla> WhooOOOOOOOSH!
22:44:01 <AaronSw-CA-US> Heh, it's double funny because wmf was talking about you stalking him earlier.
22:44:01 <redmonk> * redmonk is claustrophobic!
22:44:08 <jillzilla> Hey, wait.
22:44:09 <Ash> <AaronSw-CA-US> Heh, it's double funny because wmf was talking about you
22:44:10 <Ash> +stalking him earlier.
22:44:11 <jillzilla> wmf was talkinga bout what?
22:44:25 <Ash> *wmf* seriously, do you think she's stalking me?
22:44:40 <Ash> * Ash chuckles
22:44:41 <AaronSw-CA-US> wmf: "hey! I hugged jill and I hugged Joey. I'm an equal opportunity hugger!"
22:44:55 <AaronSw-CA-US> (he's sitting on a nearby couch)
22:45:00 <jillzilla> heh.  I thought he was more trying to get me to stop hugging him.  :-)
22:45:05 <Ash> lol
22:45:06 <AaronSw-CA-US> wmf: "I get no respect."
22:45:19 <Ash> jillzilla: don't mind the waving arms and the screams, he wants to be hugged
22:45:30 <Ash> alright.. i'm disconnecting.. must leave..
22:45:31 <Ash> hee
22:45:36 <Ash>  ^A d
22:48:15 <AaronSw-CA-US> Ooh, DW blogged me.
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22:48:58 <jeremiah> hello
22:49:14 <deltab> AaronSw-CA-US: and misspelled your name :-(
22:49:27 <AaronSw-CA-US> i'm trying to figure out if the comma is bad...
22:49:33 <AaronSw-CA-US> Ah, so he did.
22:49:53 <deltab> he obviously didn't read to the end of the page
22:49:53 <jeremiah> hello Aaron
22:50:05 <jeremiah> hey deltab
22:50:12 <AaronSw-CA-US> hey jeremiah
22:50:34 <jeremiah> you in CA for creative commons or just google?
22:50:43 <AaronSw-CA-US> Creative Commons
22:51:33 <jeremiah> oops
22:56:16 <jeremiah> there are so many books on new technology
22:56:23 <jeremiah> I'm glad I know stuff not to waste time learning
23:01:14 <AaronSw-CA-US> awesome: http://packages.debian.org/vrms
23:01:59 <jeremiah> yeah I heard that virus is quite nasty :)
23:02:21 <jeremiah> hahaah! it shows me the non-free applications I have installed at the end of installation
23:02:42 <jeremiah> oh wait, that's all it does...
23:04:37 <deltab> http://bugs.debian.org/78633
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23:50:47 <AaronSw-CA-US> smtprelay 12.44.177.146
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23:51:23 <AaronSw-CA-US> AaronSw-CA-US has changed the topic to: we love lilo
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23:53:31 <redmonk> wmf: hello
23:53:37 <redmonk> ddidd not realize you were here
23:53:42 <wmf> redmonk!
23:53:49 <wmf> I'm in and out
23:53:51 <AaronSw-CA-US> redmonk, come to CA
23:54:16 <redmonk> heh. actually jim roepcke is coming from LA to visit me this wknd
23:54:44 <wmf> Wohackers
23:54:49 <redmonk> we're gonna see episode, 2, play pool, and hack cocoa
23:54:54 <redmonk> CocoaHackers
23:54:58 <redmonk> CocoaWhackers
23:55:16 <redmonk> Cocoa's da bomb
23:59:30 <redmonk> aaronsw: if i worked for a consultancy, i might be able to do conferences.
23:59:43 <AaronSw-CA-US> Hm.
23:59:53 <AaronSw-CA-US> I work for a conservancy, not a consultancy.
23:59:53 <redmonk> however, there's too much work here for traipsing around speaking at conferences ;-)