00:00:35 <redmonk> or, you could wail, and we could shoot you
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00:24:11 <AaronSw> MartinD sits down nearby
00:29:17 <AaronSw> "A straw poll unanimously preferred the [Jaguar] beta to the current public release, 10.1.4."
00:30:03 <AaronSw>  - http://www.theregus.com/content/54/24914.html
00:56:18 <AaronSw> hm, 11 slides. wonder how long that'll take
00:56:36 <AaronSw> probably not long enough (30 min)
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01:16:22 <AaronSw> charles and his mum: http://www.aaronsw.com/photos/www2002/
01:16:28 <AaronSw> err http://www.aaronsw.com/photos/www2002/IMG_1485.JPG/view
01:16:56 <jillzilla> AaronSw: I recognize him.  How would I know him?
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01:24:33 <AaronSw> Charles?
01:24:49 <jillzilla> yes.
01:24:53 <AaronSw> Hmmm. Oh, he was in a few photos with sbp.
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01:25:04 <AaronSw> wmf
01:25:09 <wmf> AaronSw 
01:25:12 <wmf> @ http://brad.project-think.com/movies/Jag-spinning-cursor.mov
01:25:17 <AaronSw> oooh
01:25:21 <AaronSw> a movie now
01:25:31 <AaronSw> I saw Irene on the bus yesterday. I was tempted to say "Oh, you're the lady that rejects all my Amaya bugs!"
01:25:47 <AaronSw> cursor: it's.... Aqua
01:25:56 <wmf> where's the chump?
01:25:58 <AaronSw> and so smooth
01:26:01 <wmf> "This truly is the most exciting feature of Jaguar."
01:26:02 <AaronSw> just being slow, i think
01:26:04 <chumpy> A: http://brad.project-think.com/movies/Jag-spinning-cursor.mov from wmf
01:26:11 <AaronSw> A::It's... Aqua. And so smooth!
01:26:20 <wmf> * wmf smacks chumpy with his cane
01:26:29 <chumpy> commented item A
01:26:34 <wmf> A::"This truly is the most exciting feature of Jaguar."
01:26:39 <AaronSw> A:|Spinning Cursor Movie from OS X 10.2, Jaguar (mov)
01:26:45 <AaronSw> .spell embarassing
01:26:50 <chumpy> commented item A
01:27:07 <chumpy> titled item A
01:30:09 <AaronSw> I need a clever tagline for my photos page
01:31:08 <wmf> I need to clear out some serious disk space
01:31:15 <AaronSw> We're at the Amaya session. Edd wants to ask whether a good user interface is a requirement for Amaya.
01:31:44 <wmf> for Amaya World Domination it is
01:32:25 <AaronSw> Hm, is world domination a requirement for Amaya?
01:32:39 <wmf> that's a good question
01:33:04 <wmf> if Amaya is satisfied with its little academic backwater, then it doesn't need a better UI
01:50:33 <wmf> .google Shirkified
01:50:54 <wmf> oh yeah, xena's broken
01:51:50 <AaronSw> 'No pages were found containing "shirkified".'
02:24:34 <sbp> * sbp quite likes the mouse gestures in Opera: so much easier right-clicking an L shape than having to find a close button...
02:30:05 <sbp> Gotta run
02:35:51 <AaronSw> anyone got some good questions for the w3c?
02:37:50 <wmf> * wmf snickers
02:41:43 <AaronSw> I just asked about the big specs.
02:41:49 <AaronSw> TimBL proposes a simplification WG.
03:02:35 <AaronSw> I'm thinking lots of people should link to http://www.google.com/search?q=google%20recursion so that the top hit on google is that link
03:02:44 <AaronSw> the top hit on google recursion, that is
03:04:42 <AaronSw> i'm off to the closing ceremonies
03:08:52 <AaronSw> i'm back
03:35:58 <Ash> hey there AaronSw
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11:02:07 <s|a> .google RFC URI
11:02:32 <s|a> .google URI
11:02:36 <s|a> * s|a thinks
11:03:08 <s|a> wierd stuff
11:03:23 <s|a> my browser just took me directly to ietf.org
11:03:28 <s|a> * s|a blinks
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15:30:49 <sbp> * sbp waves
15:31:00 <rik> * rik waves too
15:31:39 <sbp> Hey there rik
15:31:54 <rik> heyho
15:33:10 <sbp> Hmm... boots of "Attack of the Clones" are on the 'net already
15:33:17 <sbp> => http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/entertainment/film/newsid_1979000/1979844.stm
15:33:44 <rik> yeah. i saw.
15:34:01 <rik> a friend mailed me to say Spiderman is good though
15:34:08 <rik> looks like there's going to be more spiderman films.
15:35:15 <sbp> ah, but sequels? when are sequels ever better than the originals? (cut to Scream 2 scene)
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17:02:41 <rik> heh
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17:46:50 <sbp> quite a delay there, rik
17:49:33 <rik> ?
17:49:33 <rik> oh
17:49:43 <rik> * rik is gamong online
17:50:01 <sbp> :-)
17:50:12 <rik> pauses due to fire-fights.
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18:35:50 <BenSw> Hello
19:07:38 <AaronSw> * AaronSw sneaks in
19:10:12 <sbp> do you think you can get someone to scribe the plesh demo.?
19:12:21 <AaronSw> i expect someone will
20:48:42 <sbp> if the code borks, don't scream at me :-)
21:02:48 <AaronSw> Heh.
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21:08:38 <AaronSw> * AaronSw bumps up font size really big
21:08:41 <AaronSw> so audience can see
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21:42:26 <s|a> hello guys
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21:56:46 <AaronSw> wow, that sucked incredibly
21:56:49 <AaronSw> it crased *twice*
21:56:53 <AaronSw> err crashed
21:57:06 <wmf> what sucked?
21:57:52 <AaronSw> My talk
21:58:21 <AaronSw> I guess irc makes a bad medium for demos
22:06:30 <wmf> woo, tax refund!
22:13:21 <AaronSw> heh: <QArl> no it's the fault of Tim Berners-Lee... He wrote the first invalid webpage... hmmm if I find him, I have two words for him... ;)
22:17:23 <sbp> * sbp waves
22:27:09 <BenSw> AaronSw is your talk over
22:27:36 <sbp> * sbp notes that it is
22:27:45 <AaronSw> yes
22:28:07 <AaronSw> slides at http://plesh.net/2002/www/
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22:56:11 <sbp> quiet day today
22:56:14 <sbp> hi there rtega
22:57:11 <rtega> yo
22:57:36 <sbp> this channel's looged to the Web. to say something offlog, prefix with "# "
22:57:47 <sbp> s/loog/logg/
22:58:15 <sbp> man, I've got to stop telling people that. so much more fun when they don't realize :-)
22:59:43 <sbp> so, what brings you to Swhack?
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23:07:36 <sbp> nothing, apparently...
23:42:48 <BenSw> sbp are you still there?
23:43:02 <sbp> yes, although I don't know why :-)
23:43:14 <BenSw> Heh
23:43:16 <sbp> * sbp is bored with IRC today
23:43:23 <sbp> w'sup?
23:43:44 <BenSw> * BenSw was thinking.. well there can't be the simpsons on sky at one in the morning
23:44:07 <BenSw> I'm having trouble scripting your irctemplate
23:44:37 <sbp> really? it should be quite straightforward
23:45:20 <BenSw> hmm for an ameutuer programer like me it isn't :)
23:45:36 <sbp> heh. well, what's the problem? perhaps I can help
23:46:14 <BenSw> how do I get it to see if someone has sayed .[somethinghere]
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23:46:32 <sbp> well, you have to fiddle with the RegExp
23:46:46 <sbp> so that one would be r'^\.(.*)$'
23:47:26 <sbp> and then you put it in c.bind(whatever, PRIVMSG, r'^\.(.*)$')
23:47:34 <BenSw> hmm
23:47:39 <BenSw> hi
23:47:46 <BenSw> hmm blargh didn't work
23:47:50 <sbp> the [somethinghere] part will be passed in m.groups()[0]
23:47:54 <sbp> hi Blarghbot
23:47:54 <BlarghBot> hi, sbp
23:47:59 <sbp> :-)
23:48:18 <sbp> Hola, BlarghBot!
23:48:19 <BlarghBot> hi, sbp
23:48:30 <sbp> hey blarghbot
23:48:31 <BlarghBot> hi, sbp
23:48:35 <BenSw> welcome BenSw
23:48:39 <BenSw> welcome Bl
23:48:41 <BenSw> welcome BlarghBot
23:48:41 <BlarghBot> hi, BenSw
23:48:53 <deltab> I think that can also be written m.group(0)
23:48:53 <sbp> heh, stupid nick-complete
23:48:54 <BenSw> * BenSw remembers to hit bl then Tab
23:49:02 <sbp> deltab: Hmm... cool
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23:49:59 <deltab> er, it's different
23:50:26 <deltab> group(0) is \0, the whole match
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23:50:55 <deltab> group(1) is groups()[0]
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23:54:11 <BenSw> hmm
23:54:51 <BenSw> Token Error ('EOF in multi line statement', (60,0))
23:55:16 <sbp> what bit of code?
23:55:34 <BenSw>  test('irc.openprojects.net', Port, MyChannel)
23:55:43 <BenSw> it seems
23:56:00 <sbp> the DEBUG traceback should give a function name
23:56:10 <sbp> what was the last DEBUG line in the console?
23:58:30 <BenSw> File "C:\WINDOWS\Desktop\IRCTemplate.py", line 52
23:58:30 <BenSw>     def dogbark:
23:58:31 <BenSw>                ^
23:58:31 <BenSw> SyntaxError: invalid syntax
23:58:53 <BenSw> the ^ was pointing at the :
23:59:01 <sbp> ah. you need to do def dogbark(): at least
23:59:16 <sbp> but for the bot, you'll generally have "def dogbark(m, origin, args, text, c=c): "