IRC log of swhack on 2002-05-11

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00:00:35 [redmonk]
or, you could wail, and we could shoot you
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00:24:11 [AaronSw]
MartinD sits down nearby
00:29:17 [AaronSw]
"A straw poll unanimously preferred the [Jaguar] beta to the current public release, 10.1.4."
00:30:03 [AaronSw]
- http://www.theregus.com/content/54/24914.html
00:56:18 [AaronSw]
hm, 11 slides. wonder how long that'll take
00:56:36 [AaronSw]
probably not long enough (30 min)
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01:16:22 [AaronSw]
charles and his mum: http://www.aaronsw.com/photos/www2002/
01:16:28 [AaronSw]
err http://www.aaronsw.com/photos/www2002/IMG_1485.JPG/view
01:16:56 [jillzilla]
AaronSw: I recognize him. How would I know him?
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01:24:33 [AaronSw]
Charles?
01:24:49 [jillzilla]
yes.
01:24:53 [AaronSw]
Hmmm. Oh, he was in a few photos with sbp.
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01:25:04 [AaronSw]
wmf
01:25:09 [wmf]
AaronSw
01:25:12 [wmf]
@ http://brad.project-think.com/movies/Jag-spinning-cursor.mov
01:25:17 [AaronSw]
oooh
01:25:21 [AaronSw]
a movie now
01:25:31 [AaronSw]
I saw Irene on the bus yesterday. I was tempted to say "Oh, you're the lady that rejects all my Amaya bugs!"
01:25:47 [AaronSw]
cursor: it's.... Aqua
01:25:56 [wmf]
where's the chump?
01:25:58 [AaronSw]
and so smooth
01:26:01 [wmf]
"This truly is the most exciting feature of Jaguar."
01:26:02 [AaronSw]
just being slow, i think
01:26:04 [chumpy]
A: http://brad.project-think.com/movies/Jag-spinning-cursor.mov from wmf
01:26:11 [AaronSw]
A::It's... Aqua. And so smooth!
01:26:20 [wmf]
* wmf smacks chumpy with his cane
01:26:29 [chumpy]
commented item A
01:26:34 [wmf]
A::"This truly is the most exciting feature of Jaguar."
01:26:39 [AaronSw]
A:|Spinning Cursor Movie from OS X 10.2, Jaguar (mov)
01:26:45 [AaronSw]
.spell embarassing
01:26:50 [chumpy]
commented item A
01:27:07 [chumpy]
titled item A
01:30:09 [AaronSw]
I need a clever tagline for my photos page
01:31:08 [wmf]
I need to clear out some serious disk space
01:31:15 [AaronSw]
We're at the Amaya session. Edd wants to ask whether a good user interface is a requirement for Amaya.
01:31:44 [wmf]
for Amaya World Domination it is
01:32:25 [AaronSw]
Hm, is world domination a requirement for Amaya?
01:32:39 [wmf]
that's a good question
01:33:04 [wmf]
if Amaya is satisfied with its little academic backwater, then it doesn't need a better UI
01:50:33 [wmf]
.google Shirkified
01:50:54 [wmf]
oh yeah, xena's broken
01:51:50 [AaronSw]
'No pages were found containing "shirkified".'
02:24:34 [sbp]
* sbp quite likes the mouse gestures in Opera: so much easier right-clicking an L shape than having to find a close button...
02:30:05 [sbp]
Gotta run
02:35:51 [AaronSw]
anyone got some good questions for the w3c?
02:37:50 [wmf]
* wmf snickers
02:41:43 [AaronSw]
I just asked about the big specs.
02:41:49 [AaronSw]
TimBL proposes a simplification WG.
03:02:35 [AaronSw]
I'm thinking lots of people should link to http://www.google.com/search?q=google%20recursion so that the top hit on google is that link
03:02:44 [AaronSw]
the top hit on google recursion, that is
03:04:42 [AaronSw]
i'm off to the closing ceremonies
03:08:52 [AaronSw]
i'm back
03:35:58 [Ash]
hey there AaronSw
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11:02:07 [s|a]
.google RFC URI
11:02:32 [s|a]
.google URI
11:02:36 [s|a]
* s|a thinks
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wierd stuff
11:03:23 [s|a]
my browser just took me directly to ietf.org
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* s|a blinks
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* rik makes vroooooooooooooom sounds.
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15:30:49 [sbp]
* sbp waves
15:31:00 [rik]
* rik waves too
15:31:39 [sbp]
Hey there rik
15:31:54 [rik]
heyho
15:33:10 [sbp]
Hmm... boots of "Attack of the Clones" are on the 'net already
15:33:17 [sbp]
=> http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/entertainment/film/newsid_1979000/1979844.stm
15:33:44 [rik]
yeah. i saw.
15:34:01 [rik]
a friend mailed me to say Spiderman is good though
15:34:08 [rik]
looks like there's going to be more spiderman films.
15:35:15 [sbp]
ah, but sequels? when are sequels ever better than the originals? (cut to Scream 2 scene)
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17:02:41 [rik]
heh
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17:46:50 [sbp]
quite a delay there, rik
17:49:33 [rik]
?
17:49:33 [rik]
oh
17:49:43 [rik]
* rik is gamong online
17:50:01 [sbp]
:-)
17:50:12 [rik]
pauses due to fire-fights.
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18:35:50 [BenSw]
Hello
19:07:38 [AaronSw]
* AaronSw sneaks in
19:10:12 [sbp]
do you think you can get someone to scribe the plesh demo.?
19:12:21 [AaronSw]
i expect someone will
20:48:42 [sbp]
if the code borks, don't scream at me :-)
21:02:48 [AaronSw]
Heh.
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21:08:38 [AaronSw]
* AaronSw bumps up font size really big
21:08:41 [AaronSw]
so audience can see
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21:42:26 [s|a]
hello guys
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21:56:46 [AaronSw]
wow, that sucked incredibly
21:56:49 [AaronSw]
it crased *twice*
21:56:53 [AaronSw]
err crashed
21:57:06 [wmf]
what sucked?
21:57:52 [AaronSw]
My talk
21:58:21 [AaronSw]
I guess irc makes a bad medium for demos
22:06:30 [wmf]
woo, tax refund!
22:13:21 [AaronSw]
heh: <QArl> no it's the fault of Tim Berners-Lee... He wrote the first invalid webpage... hmmm if I find him, I have two words for him... ;)
22:17:23 [sbp]
* sbp waves
22:27:09 [BenSw]
AaronSw is your talk over
22:27:36 [sbp]
* sbp notes that it is
22:27:45 [AaronSw]
yes
22:28:07 [AaronSw]
slides at http://plesh.net/2002/www/
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22:56:11 [sbp]
quiet day today
22:56:14 [sbp]
hi there rtega
22:57:11 [rtega]
yo
22:57:36 [sbp]
this channel's looged to the Web. to say something offlog, prefix with "# "
22:57:47 [sbp]
s/loog/logg/
22:58:15 [sbp]
man, I've got to stop telling people that. so much more fun when they don't realize :-)
22:59:43 [sbp]
so, what brings you to Swhack?
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23:07:36 [sbp]
nothing, apparently...
23:42:48 [BenSw]
sbp are you still there?
23:43:02 [sbp]
yes, although I don't know why :-)
23:43:14 [BenSw]
Heh
23:43:16 [sbp]
* sbp is bored with IRC today
23:43:23 [sbp]
w'sup?
23:43:44 [BenSw]
* BenSw was thinking.. well there can't be the simpsons on sky at one in the morning
23:44:07 [BenSw]
I'm having trouble scripting your irctemplate
23:44:37 [sbp]
really? it should be quite straightforward
23:45:20 [BenSw]
hmm for an ameutuer programer like me it isn't :)
23:45:36 [sbp]
heh. well, what's the problem? perhaps I can help
23:46:14 [BenSw]
how do I get it to see if someone has sayed .[somethinghere]
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23:46:32 [sbp]
well, you have to fiddle with the RegExp
23:46:46 [sbp]
so that one would be r'^\.(.*)$'
23:47:26 [sbp]
and then you put it in c.bind(whatever, PRIVMSG, r'^\.(.*)$')
23:47:34 [BenSw]
hmm
23:47:39 [BenSw]
hi
23:47:46 [BenSw]
hmm blargh didn't work
23:47:50 [sbp]
the [somethinghere] part will be passed in m.groups()[0]
23:47:54 [sbp]
hi Blarghbot
23:47:54 [BlarghBot]
hi, sbp
23:47:59 [sbp]
:-)
23:48:18 [sbp]
Hola, BlarghBot!
23:48:19 [BlarghBot]
hi, sbp
23:48:30 [sbp]
hey blarghbot
23:48:31 [BlarghBot]
hi, sbp
23:48:35 [BenSw]
welcome BenSw
23:48:39 [BenSw]
welcome Bl
23:48:41 [BenSw]
welcome BlarghBot
23:48:41 [BlarghBot]
hi, BenSw
23:48:53 [deltab]
I think that can also be written m.group(0)
23:48:53 [sbp]
heh, stupid nick-complete
23:48:54 [BenSw]
* BenSw remembers to hit bl then Tab
23:49:02 [sbp]
deltab: Hmm... cool
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23:49:59 [deltab]
er, it's different
23:50:26 [deltab]
group(0) is \0, the whole match
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23:50:55 [deltab]
group(1) is groups()[0]
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23:54:11 [BenSw]
hmm
23:54:51 [BenSw]
Token Error ('EOF in multi line statement', (60,0))
23:55:16 [sbp]
what bit of code?
23:55:34 [BenSw]
test('irc.openprojects.net', Port, MyChannel)
23:55:43 [BenSw]
it seems
23:56:00 [sbp]
the DEBUG traceback should give a function name
23:56:10 [sbp]
what was the last DEBUG line in the console?
23:58:30 [BenSw]
File "C:\WINDOWS\Desktop\IRCTemplate.py", line 52
23:58:30 [BenSw]
def dogbark:
23:58:31 [BenSw]
^
23:58:31 [BenSw]
SyntaxError: invalid syntax
23:58:53 [BenSw]
the ^ was pointing at the :
23:59:01 [sbp]
ah. you need to do def dogbark(): at least
23:59:16 [sbp]
but for the bot, you'll generally have "def dogbark(m, origin, args, text, c=c): "