IRC log of swhack on 2002-05-10

Timestamps are in UTC.

00:00:07 [sbp]

I can't believe you just did that. that's the most sacreligious behaviour ever conducted on swhack

00:00:18 [sbp]

despicable

00:00:20 [Ash]

<AaronSw> <sbp> # Ross: She plays for both teams.

00:00:20 [Ash]

<AaronSw> <sbp> # it's funny, I look back at logs like these and think,

00:00:20 [Ash]

+"didn't we have a big conversation around that time?"

00:00:20 [Ash]

<AaronSw> <redmonk> # do comments not get saved? or not rendered?

00:00:20 [Ash]

<AaronSw> <sbp> # with a few OLMs to guide me

00:00:20 [Ash]

<AaronSw> <AaronSw> # this has become the all-comment channel

00:00:22 [Ash]

<AaronSw> <rik> # they don't go in channel logs.

00:00:24 [Ash]

<AaronSw> <sbp> # # should be an on-log character

00:00:38 [redmonk]

it's evil-AaronSw: the one with the gaotee

00:00:41 [sbp]

lol

00:00:44 [AaronSw]

why is it sacreligious?

00:00:50 [redmonk]

you dissed the #

00:00:52 [sbp]

* sbp demands a /nick AaronSw`

00:01:04 [Ash]

Ash is now known as AaronSw`

00:01:05 [AaronSw`]

okay

00:01:07 [AaronSw`]

fine sbp

00:01:19 [AaronSw`]

have it your way

00:01:39 [sbp]

* sbp sneaks into Vorpal-room and does a bit of rming

00:01:44 [AaronSw]

hey!

00:01:54 [AaronSw]

vorpal-room?

00:01:56 [redmonk]

rm-abuse!

00:02:02 [rik]

* rik writes haiku about engines.

00:02:03 [sbp]

heh, heh

00:02:11 [rik]

high oil pressure is bad

00:02:11 [rik]

you're going to blow a gasket

00:02:11 [rik]

so will your engine

00:02:32 [sbp]

that's a funny looking Haiku

00:02:48 [rik]

why?

00:02:59 [sbp]

I thought that 5/7/5 was more traditional

00:03:04 [AaronSw`]

AaronSw` is now known as Ash

00:03:05 [rik]

oh. becaue you count pressure wuth different number of syllables to me.

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00:03:36 [AaronSw]

* AaronSw tries to pronounce pressure with one syllable

00:03:43 [sbp]

heh, heh

00:03:49 [redmonk]

"press'r"

00:03:59 [AaronSw]

nah, that's two

00:04:03 [sbp]

[high] [oil] [pre] [sure's] [bad] would work

00:04:04 [redmonk]

yeah

00:04:05 [rik]

or maybe i forgot to remove the "is"

00:04:10 [sbp]

right

00:04:14 [kenzo75]

kenzo75 has left #swhack

00:04:22 [sbp]

plus the second line has 8 syllables

00:04:24 [redmonk]

heh. i forgot about Kenzo

00:04:31 [sbp]

unless you say "gonna"

00:04:41 [redmonk]

Morbus had him spinning in circles

00:04:48 [sbp]

heh, heh

00:05:04 [rik]

sbp: where do you get 8 from in the second line?

00:05:08 [sbp]

[you

00:05:10 [sbp]

oops

00:05:20 [rik]

you counting going s 2?

00:05:26 [sbp]

[you're] [go] [ing] [to] [blow] [a] [gas] [ket]

00:05:32 [rik]

hm.

00:05:36 [rik]

that's not how i was counting it.

00:06:11 [sbp]

you must have a quirky syllabalization mechanism...

00:06:17 [redmonk]

what language are *you* speaking, rik?

00:06:26 [rik]

redmonk: english.

00:06:36 [AaronSw]

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00:06:37 [rik]

but my speific variant of it, aparently.

00:06:40 [AaronSw]

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00:06:49 [rik]

plus I've been up a very very long time today, so i'm tired.

00:07:14 [Ash]

bam

00:07:27 [Ash]

rik's using Brit-lish

00:07:29 [sbp]

you should have taken a catnap...

00:07:32 [Ash]

it's like Spangish

00:07:33 [sbp]

bum-pssssish!

00:07:41 [Ash]

only for crazy brits

00:07:43 [rik]

instead of catnip?

00:07:57 [Ash]

* Ash listens to the Pi soundtrack

00:08:04 [sbp]

um... instead of catnap, I guess

00:08:11 [rik]

* rik nods

00:08:14 [rik]

* rik yawns.

00:08:20 [sbp]

.nap

00:09:06 [rik]

* rik drops to floor suddenly and loosely, and begins snoring loudly and felinely

00:09:20 [rik]

<snooooooooooork> meooooooooooow. <snoooooooooooooorrrkk> miaoooooooooooooow.

00:09:26 [sbp]

lol

00:19:49 [Ash]

HEH

00:19:54 [Ash]

WORM KLEZ

00:20:52 [sbp]

Hmm... "roe deer: small, short-horned deer, Capreolus capreolus, of Britain and Europe and as far east as China and Siberia." - http://www.bartleby.com/65/ro/roedeer.html

00:21:18 [rik]

sbp: roe is also fish eggs.

00:21:19 [rik]

* rik nods

00:21:20 [rik]

no

00:21:22 [rik]

ovaries.

00:21:23 [rik]

not the eggs.

00:21:31 [Ash]

do you think that some people are actually robots?

00:21:34 [rik]

* rik notes he's now not sure.

00:21:34 [Ash]

you know, living among us

00:21:41 [sbp]

oh man

00:21:50 [rik]

I AM THE PUSHER ROBOT. PUSHING IS THE ANSWER.

00:21:56 [rik]

I WILL PUSH THE HUMANS TO SAVE THEM FROM

00:21:58 [Ash]

rik: o noe

00:22:01 [rik]

THE TERRIBLE SECRET OF SPACE!

00:22:04 [sbp]

lol! you've read the PUSHER ROBOT thing?

00:22:07 [Ash]

I was actully quoting Tenacious D

00:22:11 [Ash]

sbp: Dude, that's a song!

00:22:13 [Ash]

SONG

00:22:23 [rik]

sbp: I've seen the music video on HeadFuck on SciFi channel :)

00:22:31 [sbp]

Hmm...

00:22:36 [rik]

I AM THE SHOVER ROBOT. SHOVING IS THE ANSWER

00:22:38 [Ash]

it was done by the guy that did the AYBABTU thing

00:22:41 [rik]

DO NOT LISTEN TO THE PUSER ROBOT

00:22:45 [AaronSw]

yeah, the story is better than the video

00:22:45 [rik]

SHOVING IS THE ANSWER.

00:22:51 [sbp]

* sbp should listen to more crap music

00:22:55 [rik]

I WILL SHOVE YOU DOWN THE STAIRS TO PROTECT YOU FROM

00:22:58 [rik]

THE TERRIBLE SECRET OF SPACE!

00:23:43 [rik]

i'll stop mow.

00:23:46 [rik]

s/m/n/

00:24:40 [sbp]

stop mowing the swhack lawn!

00:25:27 [Ash]

* Ash mows

00:25:39 [rik]

* rik meows.

00:25:51 [sbp]

* sbp moans

00:26:17 [sbp]

or "mowns" to keep the theme, perhaps

00:26:32 [rik]

heh

00:26:33 [rik]

right

00:26:41 [rik]

sleepy time for this little feline.

00:26:55 [sbp]

pleasant mouse chasing dreams, o feline one

00:27:29 [rik]

and the same to you, for your prey of choice.

00:27:43 [sbp]

* sbp keeps that under his hat

00:27:44 [sbp]

thanks :-)

00:36:56 [sbp]

does anyone recall how many TB of data the great Library of Alexandria had in it?

00:38:43 [sbp]

aha: "The ancient Library of Alexandria (400,000 scrolls) 800 gigabytes" - http://www.archive.org/xterabytes.html

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00:40:31 [AaronSw]

not even a TB

00:40:51 [sbp]

indeed. still quite a lot, though :-)

00:40:56 [sbp]

c.0.8TB

01:03:44 [MorbusIff]

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01:05:18 [MorbusIff]

AaronSw, redmonk, you around?

01:05:42 [MorbusIff]

sun of a bitch.

01:09:43 [oierw`]

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01:09:47 [redmonk]

yo

01:09:53 [redmonk]

MorbusIff

01:10:11 [MorbusIff]

hey monk. any ideas how to open a terminal.app window from the shell?

01:10:14 [redmonk]

how much Iff could a MobusIff if a Mobuss Could Iff Iff?

01:10:28 [redmonk]

s/Mobuss/Morbuss/

01:10:31 [MorbusIff]

like, I want to cron a script, but I want terminal.app to match its progress.

01:10:39 [redmonk]

hm.

01:10:40 [MorbusIff]

and the only thing I can think of is to .command it and do it that way.

01:10:49 [MorbusIff]

with open -a

01:10:55 [MorbusIff]

and that's not ideal

01:10:56 [redmonk]

no clue

01:11:15 [redmonk]

write it to a .log and open that with Console

01:11:29 [redmonk]

open my.log

01:11:35 [AaronSw]

hi

01:11:51 [redmonk]

yeah

01:11:54 [MorbusIff]

gasp! two commands!? <G>

01:11:55 [redmonk]

open my.log works

01:12:11 [MorbusIff]

i want this done in 30 chars or less <G>

01:12:24 [redmonk]

hm.

01:12:28 [MorbusIff]

i'm kidding ;)

01:12:35 [redmonk]

open my.log < myCommand &

01:12:36 [redmonk]

?

01:12:57 [MorbusIff]

hmm. that could work.

01:13:09 [AaronSw]

i think that's equivalent to cat myCommand | open my.log

01:13:33 [redmonk]

no

01:13:44 [redmonk]

it doesn't recognize myCommand

01:13:45 [AaronSw]

yes

01:14:07 [AaronSw]

$ cat < ls

01:14:12 [AaronSw]

ls: no such file or directory

01:15:03 [redmonk]

well, there may be a way to do it - i don't know what it is

01:17:06 [redmonk]

what is it about some kinds of coding that become compulsions?

01:17:13 [redmonk]

i can't stay away from this app

01:17:18 [redmonk]

i'm addicted

01:17:29 [redmonk]

must... hack.. Sid... obj-c

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01:18:02 [et]

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01:18:04 [oierw`]

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01:18:14 [AaronSw]

et?

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01:18:23 [AaronSw]

I'm thinking about writing Cocoa apps using jython.

01:23:18 [MorbusIff]

* MorbusIff can't believes he's using javascript on his site. And liking it.

01:28:33 [sbp]

he's either from another planet, or a conjunction

01:29:03 [sbp]

yo, oierw?

01:29:29 [et]

hey sbp

01:29:33 [et]

et?

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01:29:50 [oierw`]

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01:30:07 [sbp]

yeah: et?

01:30:09 [oierw`]

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01:30:39 [sbp]

better now?

01:31:32 [jillzilla]

better.

01:32:05 [jillzilla]

* jillzilla gets some water and sits down to hack.

01:32:08 [jillzilla]

* jillzilla is Energized.

01:32:18 [sbp]

wb Jill

01:32:32 [MorbusIff]

anyone know javascript?

01:32:44 [sbp]

* sbp just read a bit of The Faerie Queene, and is now moving onto other stuff

01:33:35 [Ash]

JABBASCRIPT

01:33:41 [Ash]

ENARGIZED

01:33:48 [AaronSw]

* AaronSw works on an htmldiff

01:33:50 [Ash]

I'm waiting for this installer to start up

01:33:53 [Ash]

dum de dumm

01:33:57 [Ash]

* Ash twiddles thumbs

01:34:06 [AaronSw]

I'm in a session on extensions to PageRank

01:34:50 [jillzilla]

The Faerie Queene...I haven't read any of that.

01:35:01 [Ash]

* Ash reads this "Free as in Freedom" book thing

01:35:33 [jillzilla]

good heavens.

01:35:40 [jillzilla]

Spenser writes like Ash.

01:35:49 [jillzilla]

Mind if I paste?

01:35:51 [sbp]

lol!

01:36:02 [jillzilla]

TO

01:36:02 [jillzilla]

THE MOST HIGH,

01:36:02 [jillzilla]

MIGHTIE

01:36:02 [jillzilla]

and

01:36:02 [jillzilla]

MAGNIFICENT

01:36:03 [jillzilla]

EMPRESSE RENOVV-

01:36:05 [jillzilla]

MED FOR PIETIE, VER-

01:36:07 [jillzilla]

TVE, AND ALL GRATIOVS

01:36:09 [jillzilla]

GOVERNMENT ELIZABETH BY

01:36:11 [jillzilla]

THE GRACE OF GOD QVEENE

01:36:13 [jillzilla]

OF ENGLAND FRAVNCE AND

01:36:15 [jillzilla]

IRELAND AND OF VIRGI-

01:36:17 [jillzilla]

NIA, DEFENDOVR OF THE

01:36:19 [jillzilla]

FAITH, &. HER MOST

01:36:21 [jillzilla]

HVMBLE SERVANT

01:36:23 [jillzilla]

EDMVND SPENSER

01:36:25 [jillzilla]

DOTH IN ALL HV-

01:36:27 [jillzilla]

MILITIE DEDI-

01:36:29 [jillzilla]

CATE, PRE-

01:36:31 [jillzilla]

SENT

01:36:33 [jillzilla]

AND CONSECRATE THESE

01:36:35 [jillzilla]

HIS LABOVRS TO LIVE

01:36:39 [jillzilla]

VVITH THE ETERNI-

01:36:41 [jillzilla]

TIE OF HER

01:36:43 [jillzilla]

FAME.

01:36:45 [jillzilla]

done

01:36:56 [AaronSw]

"i have to skip some math because it's too complex"

01:37:06 [jillzilla]

We like you anyway, Aaron.

01:37:10 [sbp]

well, that's just the dedication

01:37:29 [jillzilla]

I think I know who Ash was in a previous life.

01:37:38 [sbp]

all dedications should be in TEH ASH ENLISGH

01:37:51 [jillzilla]

indeed!

01:38:11 [jillzilla]

I met a woman in the locker room who it turns out will be my next-door neighbor as of next week.

01:38:14 [jillzilla]

What fun!

01:38:29 [sbp]

indeed

01:38:30 [Ash]

lol

01:38:45 [AaronSw]

I didn't say that, the PageRank dude did.

01:39:04 [Ash]

I can write quite coherently, thank you very much.:P

01:39:07 [AaronSw]

He's doing one based on Markov chains.

01:39:08 [jillzilla]

AaronSw: I know. Joke.

01:39:14 [AaronSw]

it's jeffk english, not AHS

01:39:33 [Ash]

jeffk is the master of this stuff, not me.

01:39:46 [sbp]

Ash's proof of P! "I can write quite coherently, thank you very much.:P"

01:39:56 [Ash]

I AM NOT BEING OWNER OF TUBCAT, I AM JSUT A FAN!!1

01:41:36 [Ash]

Ash has changed the topic to: welcome the new swhack mascot: http://www.tubcat.com/

01:42:11 [AaronSw]

AaronSw has changed the topic to: KILL ASH

01:43:05 [AaronSw]

anyone around for some perl help?

01:43:16 [AaronSw]

what do chomp and expand do?

01:43:39 [jillzilla]

chomp removes the last char of a string if it is a newline.

01:43:56 [AaronSw]

weird. this slide has a bit of text that looks like it's in runic

01:44:02 [sbp]

if $/ (or whatever) is set as such

01:44:55 [jillzilla]

But people don't usually resent the $OHJUSTBUGGERME variables for example code.

01:45:05 [jillzilla]

use FoulEnglish;

01:46:02 [AaronSw]

How do I convert an array of lines into an array of words?

01:46:25 [Ash]

undef @array;

01:46:26 [jillzilla]

s/resent/reset/

01:46:26 [Ash]

*g*

01:46:56 [jillzilla]

Well, I would iterate over the array and run split, but I don't think like a perl weenie.

01:47:03 [Ash]

AaronSw: Just iterate through the array and split it

01:47:16 [sbp]

argh. stop doing that, guys

01:47:24 [jillzilla]

sbp: show us the way.

01:47:30 [Ash]

sbp: Stop doing what?

01:47:42 [Ash]

I haven't hacked perl in a while, so I'm rusty.

01:47:43 [jillzilla]

Argh, this stuff in my nostrils smells evil.

01:47:57 [sbp]

I was just going to say "just go through the array and keep splitting and pushing onto some other array"

01:48:00 [Ash]

I should really start again. Perl is so fun.

01:48:01 [jillzilla]

sbp: I've started saying "argh" all the time and I blame you.

01:48:12 [sbp]

argh, stop saying "argh"!

01:48:13 [Ash]

jillzilla: I told you it was a bad idea to get your nosehair scented

01:48:15 [Ash]

argh

01:48:17 [sbp]

lol

01:48:25 [deltab]

you could join the lines together, then split

01:48:26 [jillzilla]

Ash: and the curling iron burned a few hairs. Nasty.

01:48:33 [Ash]

ouch

01:48:34 [jillzilla]

Heh. I was going to suggest that too, deltab. :-)

01:48:47 [deltab]

or if it's from a file, read the file in one go

01:48:53 [Ash]

or you could write a state machine to look up words in the dictionary

01:49:01 [sbp]

heh

01:49:09 [jillzilla]

Read it into one string, then split the string.

01:49:10 [Ash]

if they match, keep them

01:49:14 [Ash]

otherswise throw them out

01:49:17 [deltab]

right

01:49:24 [Ash]

jillzilla: Hey, thanks for explaining state machines to me the other day

01:49:25 [Ash]

you rule

01:49:27 [Ash]

hehe

01:49:29 [AaronSw]

would i do that buy @$newstring = split($oldstring)

01:49:33 [jillzilla]

Oh, you got that! COOL!

01:49:42 [jillzilla]

* jillzilla does the spontaneous-teaching dance.

01:49:48 [AaronSw]

Heh, this guy says Teh Lunix

01:49:59 [sbp]

Ash sure does get about

01:50:00 [Ash]

now when Erik Naggum says "Don't use regex, dumbass.. write a state machine and look for the character you want"

01:50:02 [Ash]

i get it

01:50:03 [Ash]

hehe

01:50:07 [Ash]

AaronSw: Awesome!

01:50:11 [deltab]

AaronSw: no, it's 'by' - I think all the dollar signs are confusing you

01:50:13 [Ash]

Does this guy work at google?

01:50:25 [AaronSw]

deltab, :-)

01:50:31 [AaronSw]

Ash, don't think so.

01:50:38 [Ash]

AaronSw: D'oh :-(

01:50:39 [Ash]

hehe

01:50:47 [jillzilla]

That was so weird. For those who weren't listening in on Ash's and my privmsg the other night, I had to hack something together quickly and I did it as a quick and dirty state machine in python.

01:50:51 [jillzilla]

Now, that's no big deal.

01:51:00 [jillzilla]

But the thing ran on the first try.

01:51:06 [jillzilla]

I was scared, I tell you, scared!

01:51:18 [jillzilla]

I don't think I even had a syntax error.

01:51:18 [Ash]

* Ash pastes the log

01:51:20 [Ash]

*g*

01:51:46 [jillzilla]

I wonder what I did with that code.

01:51:50 [jillzilla]

Hmm.

01:52:00 [Ash]

jillzilla: I have a copy of it.

01:52:03 [deltab]

hmm, I've had quite a few python programs work first time

01:52:11 [jillzilla]

deltab: You're a better man than I.

01:52:32 [jillzilla]

Hehehehe. I remember a geek quiz that had two questions of about 200:

01:52:33 [deltab]

um

01:52:50 [jillzilla]

31. Have you ever written a program that worked the first time?

01:52:55 [jillzilla]

32. did it work the second time?

01:53:01 [deltab]

hehe

01:53:02 [sbp]

heh

01:53:07 [Ash]

the cymbal crashing noise that zenworks makes when the installer starts is disturbing

01:53:07 [jillzilla]

I remember answering yes and no, of course. :-)

01:53:17 [sbp]

print "Hello world!"

01:53:25 [deltab]

of course my programs tend to be very short

01:53:42 [sbp]

python program to do nothing: ""

01:54:03 [jillzilla]

I tend to test every six lines or so, so the fact that I wrote a 30-ish line state machine without testing shows how exhausted I was.

01:54:28 [jillzilla]

* jillzilla makes a stack of the CDs she has ripped so she can take them home.

01:54:47 [sbp]

(Java program to do nothing, for comparison: "public class NoTest { public static void main(String[] args){} }")

01:54:55 [Ash]

jillzilla, welcome to the world of mp3s

01:54:56 [Ash]

hehe

01:54:57 [sbp]

(via. http://www.twistedmatrix.com/users/glyph/rant/python-vs-java.html)

01:54:59 [jillzilla]

sbp: take that filth elsewhere!

01:55:06 [sbp]

sorry...

01:55:06 [Ash]

I do that at practically every new job

01:55:13 [Ash]

bring in a huge stack of CD's and rip them all again

01:55:22 [Ash]

since dumping them to cd is too time consuming

01:55:23 [sbp]

rippity rip rip rip

01:55:47 [Ash]

RIP RIP RIPPITY DOO!

01:56:03 [sbp]

Dippity dippity hey, a rip for me today. CDs to work I bring, and copy as I sing

01:56:19 [jillzilla]

sbp reminded me of Tom Bombadil just then.

01:57:00 [sbp]

I remind you of a Dutch doll? thanks

01:57:01 [Ash]

so.. if you hear about a massacre at novell down in provo tomorrow.. it uh, wasn't me

01:57:08 [jillzilla]

sbp: ?

01:57:22 [Ash]

i had nothing to do with killing the entire zenworks product team

01:57:26 [sbp]

honest

01:57:29 [jillzilla]

glad to hear it, Ash.

01:57:35 [Ash]

jillzilla: Yes, I'm innocent.

01:57:41 [sbp]

"Tom Bombadil was originally a Dutch doll belonging to one of Tolkien's children" - http://www.cas.unt.edu/~hargrove/bombadil.html

01:57:43 [jillzilla]

"He seemed so quiet."

01:58:08 [jillzilla]

Oh, bugger the doll. You know what I'm talking about, you misinterpreting misanthrope!

01:58:14 [Ash]

And I won't be killing people in the main area in a smiley face pattern

01:58:20 [Ash]

just so you know

01:58:29 [jillzilla]

Good, Ash, good.

01:58:30 [sbp]

hey, don't you go calling me no misanthrope, you harlot of misplaced insults!

01:58:47 [Ash]

I heard a funny thing from someone that was laid off from Novell a little while back

01:58:47 [jillzilla]

Mine alliterated.

01:58:59 [sbp]

mine was archaic

01:59:01 [Ash]

apparently their relatively-new great big tall building is *sinking*

01:59:13 [Ash]

ahahaha

01:59:24 [sbp]

well, at the end. well, just one word. well, no, you win

01:59:52 [jillzilla]

You're not reminding me at all of Tom Bombadil now, for what it's worth.

02:00:01 [Ash]

hehe

02:00:30 [AaronSw]

why does

02:00:31 [AaronSw]

my $arrayRef = shift;

02:00:31 [AaronSw]

@$arrayRef = split($arrayRef);

02:00:33 [sbp]

* sbp infers Tom Bombadil != An Ass

02:00:33 [AaronSw]

get me

02:00:38 [AaronSw]

Use of uninitialized value in split at ./htmldiff.pl line 14.

02:00:50 [jillzilla]

* jillzilla tries to imagine Tom Bombadil saying "harlot". Oh, this is at koan levels of mental twistedness.

02:01:10 [jillzilla]

which line is 14?

02:01:30 [Ash]

is $arrayRef a line, or.. ?

02:01:39 [AaronSw]

line 14 is the one with split

02:01:47 [sbp]

well, in one of it's more obsoltete senses, it might fit

02:01:49 [jillzilla]

what is $arrayRef?

02:01:51 [Ash]

print $arrayRef right before that and see what split is getting handed

02:01:55 [jillzilla]

sbp: Oh, yes, good point.

02:02:29 [jillzilla]

This is so swhackian. A conversation about perl syntax interwoven with a conversation about archaic word usages.

02:03:13 [sbp]

swhackish, please

02:03:17 [AaronSw]

$arrayref seems blank

02:03:22 [jillzilla]

That might explain it.

02:03:24 [AaronSw]

er, capitalized right

02:03:42 [jillzilla]

when you run perl interactively, can you split a blank thingie?

02:03:52 [jillzilla]

s/thingie/scalar/

02:03:58 [Ash]

jillzilla: Perl isn't run interactively

02:04:04 [jillzilla]

it can be. The debugger.

02:04:07 [Ash]

oh.

02:04:09 [Ash]

Well yeah.

02:04:16 [Ash]

But it's not like Python, is what I meant.

02:04:17 [Ash]

:)

02:04:27 [jillzilla]

Oh, it is SO not like Python. :-)

02:04:35 [AaronSw]

oops. it's an array

02:04:40 [jillzilla]

aHA!

02:04:49 [jillzilla]

Oh, I should have known. From shift.

02:04:52 [jillzilla]

duh.

02:05:10 [jillzilla]

shift deals with, um, @ARGV, right?

02:05:24 [AaronSw]

I don't know. i'm not a perl programmer

02:05:25 [deltab]

by default, yeah

02:05:39 [jillzilla]

Yeah, and he ran it in the default way. So I should have known.

02:05:57 [jillzilla]

AaronSw: don't split arrays, dude. :-)

02:06:11 [AaronSw]

i figured that out... ;-)

02:06:17 [AaronSw]

how do i convert an array to a string?

02:06:36 [jillzilla]

join?

02:06:40 [jillzilla]

if that's what you want to do.

02:06:50 [jillzilla]

Why do you want to convert @ARGV to a string?

02:06:53 [AaronSw]

hm, join returns an empty string

02:07:00 [sbp]

join?

02:07:02 [sbp]

for the record:-

02:07:04 [sbp]

<AaronSw> how do i convert an array to a string?

02:07:06 [sbp]

<sbp> join?

02:07:06 [jillzilla]

do I suck?

02:07:08 [sbp]

<jillzilla> join?

02:07:12 [Ash]

AaronSw, you need docs?

02:07:16 [Ash]

http://166.70.121.25/perlcd/index.htm

02:07:18 [Ash]

there you go buddy.

02:07:22 [jillzilla]

* jillzilla kicks Ash.

02:07:23 [AaronSw]

heh

02:07:36 [jillzilla]

Why do you want to convert @ARGV to a string?

02:07:42 [Ash]

* Ash launches mothra at jillzilla

02:07:47 [jillzilla]

WHAT ARE YOU TRYING TO DO?

02:08:00 [jillzilla]

* jillzilla roars and attacks Mothra with her fiery breath.

02:08:07 [jillzilla]

(see, I really didn't brush my teeth!)

02:08:08 [AaronSw]

i want to convert this thing into a an array of words

02:08:14 [Ash]

that url has Learning Perl, Programming Perl, Advanced Perl Programming, and the Perl Cookbook

02:08:16 [jillzilla]

what is the thing?

02:08:36 [jillzilla]

if it's @ARGV, it's already an array of words...but maybe not the words you want.

02:08:46 [sbp]

join is string first then array, BTW

02:08:54 [AaronSw]

it's @a in:

02:08:54 [AaronSw]

open FH, $ARGV[0];

02:08:54 [AaronSw]

@a = <FH>;

02:08:55 [AaronSw]

close FH;

02:08:58 [jillzilla]

* jillzilla wants it known that she hasn't programmed in perl in a million and six years, and probably is fucking up left and right.

02:09:02 [Ash]

I thought asw was reading from a file

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02:09:17 [Ash]

yeah

02:09:20 [Ash]

lines from a file baby

02:09:45 [jillzilla]

Is @a an array of strings, each ending in newline?

02:10:02 [AaronSw]

I guess.

02:10:17 [jillzilla]

AaronSw: Only you can run prints on your code. :-)

02:10:32 [AaronSw]

print just returns ARRAY(0x0x09d8d(

02:10:46 [jillzilla]

iterate over the array and print?

02:10:49 [sbp]

print join(' ', @a);

02:10:55 [jillzilla]

I like sbp's idea better.

02:10:57 [Ash]

AaronSw, print the array, not the array reference

02:11:06 [AaronSw]

aha

02:12:18 [AaronSw]

so yes, it is

02:13:03 [jillzilla]

So you can either iterate over the array, split each string, and append the resulting array to your results array...

02:13:15 [jillzilla]

Or you can join the array into one big string and then split that puppy.

02:13:21 [jillzilla]

Or a million other ways.

02:13:36 [sbp]

aw... how could you split a puppy? it's like the bunn thing in South Park's Great Expectations

02:13:50 [AaronSw]

perl code?

02:15:02 [sbp]

print split(' ', join(' ', @a));

02:15:27 [jillzilla]

what's the first arg of split and join? He needs to handle newlines as well as spaces.

02:15:32 [jillzilla]

probably.

02:15:39 [Ash]

http://166.70.121.25/perlcd/prog/ch03_078.htm#PERL2-CMD-JOIN

02:15:47 [Ash]

join EXPR, LIST

02:15:48 [sbp]

ugh, silly newlines

02:16:06 [sbp]

can't you chomp for each line in a file being read?

02:16:48 [AaronSw]

Ooh, I think it worked.

02:17:30 [deltab]

first arg of split is a regex

02:17:45 [deltab]

split /\w*/, $a;

02:17:52 [jillzilla]

that's what I was looking for.

02:18:25 [jillzilla]

does the * work? Does that split when there is no whitespace?

02:18:50 [deltab]

ah, um

02:19:06 [jillzilla]

* jillzilla tests.

02:21:03 [sbp]

don't you mean \W?

02:21:06 [wmf]

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02:21:09 [wmf]

swhack!

02:21:15 [Ash]

* Ash swhacks wmf

02:21:25 [wmf]

* wmf sees the topic and grabs a pitchfork

02:21:34 [Ash]

Oh, crap

02:21:37 [Ash]

Ash has changed the topic to: KILL WMF

02:21:38 [deltab]

I meant \s

02:21:39 [sbp]

$ perl -e 'print split(/\W+/, "p q r")'

02:21:40 [sbp]

pqr

02:21:40 [Ash]

there that's better

02:21:46 [wmf]

AaronSw: what's up with lunch at google

02:22:05 [AaronSw]

i'm having lunch at google

02:22:07 [sbp]

ah

02:22:12 [AaronSw]

it rocks

02:22:23 [sbp]

when?

02:22:28 [AaronSw]

Monday

02:22:28 [wmf]

yeah, you already mentioned that. why?

02:22:44 [sbp]

cool

02:22:49 [AaronSw]

why am i going or why are they having me?

02:23:00 [wmf]

the latter is more interesting

02:24:28 [AaronSw]

becuase of the Google Weblog

02:24:38 [wmf]

ah, I forgot about that

02:25:15 [Ash]

google weblog?

02:25:19 [sbp]

(it has to be +, anyway)

02:25:24 [wmf]

.google google weblog

02:25:25 [sbp]

google.blogspace.com

02:25:27 [jillzilla]

(that's what I thought)

02:25:42 [wmf]

ah, jillzillium has appeared

02:26:03 [jillzilla]

I've been here.

02:26:07 [jillzilla]

* jillzilla waves.

02:26:12 [sbp]

oh man, it's times like these that I wish Morbus was here...

02:27:09 [wmf]

jillzilla: want to come hang out with some #infoAnarchists, #p2p-hackers, and #swhackers?

02:27:19 [jillzilla]

scary. when and where?

02:27:24 [wmf]

whenever

02:27:39 [jillzilla]

* jillzilla listens for "where".

02:30:19 [jillzilla]

wmf: sure, assuming the time and place are good.

02:31:17 [jillzilla]

.time bst

02:31:26 [jillzilla]

eek.

02:31:31 [sbp]

3:31 AM

02:31:41 [sbp]

eek?

02:31:45 [jillzilla]

no xena.

02:31:53 [sbp]

xena is here, she's just sick

02:31:57 [jillzilla]

poor xena.

02:32:04 [sbp]

she had it coming

02:32:18 [jillzilla]

Are you using americanisms, or is "sick" the usual term where you are?

02:32:25 [jillzilla]

Or is xena actually about to vomit?

02:32:31 [wmf]

wmf has changed the topic to: <Ash> KILL XENA!

02:32:31 [jillzilla]

Unusual behavior for a bot...

02:32:49 [jillzilla]

Poor sbp. I analyze everything he says.

02:32:50 [wmf]

xena's been spewing random weird stuff lately

02:32:59 [jillzilla]

dear me. sounds like Ash.

02:33:11 [sbp]

coughing up grizzle and ash

02:33:24 [jillzilla]

maybe whoever fixes xena could fix ash as well.

02:33:39 [sbp]

tav'll give her some lovin'

02:33:52 [sbp]

sick ~= lame

02:33:55 [sbp]

FWIW

02:34:13 [jillzilla]

tav can heal the lame. all hail tav.

02:34:30 [sbp]

ah, mail from Arjun Ray

02:34:44 [sbp]

always worth reading, if only for shock value

02:35:25 [AaronSw]

unfortunately it's not random

02:35:59 [jillzilla]

* jillzilla goes to grab some dinner.

02:39:35 [AaronSw]

Ooh, ndiff is cool

02:40:52 [sbp]

* sbp reads http://www.math.utah.edu/~beebe/software/ndiff/

02:41:03 [sbp]

what on Earth are you doing over there?

02:43:47 [Ash]

lol, wmf

02:44:03 [AaronSw]

no, the python ndiff

02:45:37 [Ash]

* Ash goes home

02:45:44 [sbp]

go home! go home!

02:46:13 [wmf]

Ash has gone home; we can talk about him now

02:47:33 [sbp]

* sbp was harking back to Tracey Ullman there, BTW, for the terminally curious

02:49:40 [sbp]

that Ash character sure is shady. and where did he come from, anyway? #infoanarchy? that harldy lends creedance to his credibility. The whole thing is rather dodgy and inauspicious

02:49:51 [wmf]

heh

02:50:26 [sbp]

it's such a shame that we don't get the TU Show over here any more...

02:50:38 [sbp]

...having said that, it's probably on some obscure channel that we don't get

02:52:20 [sbp]

* sbp does some casual searching for Python ndiff

02:53:10 [deltab]

sbp: difflib has an ndiff function

02:53:33 [sbp]

ah, thanks!

02:53:51 [deltab]

Tools/scripts/ndiff.py is a command-line front-end to this function.

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02:54:16 [wmf]

it's a Sw-arm!

02:54:18 [BenSw]

Hello...

02:54:21 [sbp]

heh, heh

02:54:24 [sbp]

Hi there Ben

02:54:27 [BenSw]

hi

02:55:00 [BenSw]

hmm AaronSw you there?

02:55:28 [sbp]

he has been here recently, but his appearances have been sporadic and limited

02:55:59 [sbp]

I think he's working on some secret plan to take over the world. I'm still working on how that involves ndiff...

02:56:00 [BenSw]

he was supposed to be at "a dinner"

02:56:09 [BenSw]

I need help with debian bittorent

02:56:52 [wmf]

you might try #bittorrent or #infoanarchy since bram is on

02:57:16 [sbp]

hey, there you go. service with a smile :-)

02:58:00 [BenSw]

hmm whatever, seems that noah is being dragged away from his computer anyway

03:06:40 [AaronSw]

hi

03:08:40 [wmf]

ok, nobody better announce a tue dinner that they already planned

03:10:50 [AaronSw]

Oh, but I'm goin... ;-)

03:10:53 [AaronSw]

.dtrt html:add

03:10:54 [xena]

html:add: http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40/

03:11:21 [AaronSw]

ah, ins

03:11:30 [wmf]

I'm sure I'll see enough of you anyway

03:12:12 [wmf]

shit, out of swap space

03:17:15 [jillzilla]

wmf: are you coming to EF?

03:17:28 [wmf]

wmf is now known as wmf-etcon

03:17:44 [jillzilla]

If so, you should come to dinner with us on Monday.

03:17:57 [wmf-etcon]

I am planning to do that

03:18:01 [jillzilla]

cool.

03:18:40 [sbp]

* sbp waves

03:18:43 [jillzilla]

God, we're going to mob that restaurant.

03:18:45 [jillzilla]

sbp

03:18:47 [jillzilla]

!

03:18:52 [wmf-etcon]

I just need to find a ride

03:19:09 [jillzilla]

If you don't have one, the light rail goes directly from the convention center to downtown mountain view.

03:19:17 [jillzilla]

But I'm sure you'll find one.

03:19:37 [wmf-etcon]

etcon isn't at any convention center

03:19:39 [jillzilla]

If nobody has cars, I...well, won't be able to shuttle everyone in one trip.

03:19:52 [jillzilla]

Wait...I thought it was at the Santa Clara convention center.

03:20:02 [wmf-etcon]

it's at a hotel

03:20:07 [jillzilla]

URI?

03:20:19 [wmf-etcon]

conferences.oreilly.com

03:20:51 [jillzilla]

When did they change that?

03:20:54 [jillzilla]

Weird.

03:22:05 [wmf-etcon]

I think drue is bringing the SF people

03:23:07 [jillzilla]

The light rail still goes right by there. But carpooling is fine too.

03:23:20 [sbp]

Gotta run

03:23:25 [jillzilla]

later, sbp.

03:23:25 [wmf-etcon]

ah, that's good to know about the light rail

03:23:41 [jillzilla]

Slow but simple access to Mountain View and San Jose.

03:23:50 [jillzilla]

And caltrain.

03:24:32 [wmf-etcon]

living and working in the suburbs, I'm not used to mass transit

03:25:00 [jillzilla]

Selected parts of the peninsula are reasonable by transit. Others are dreadful.

03:25:57 [AaronSw]

I think i finally got this program to work, but it looks like it's time to go...

03:26:13 [jillzilla]

Old Ironsides is the station.

03:26:55 [AaronSw]

sbp, how's the bot coming?

03:27:00 [AaronSw]

i need it tomorrow, y'know

03:27:22 [jillzilla]

he just ran.

03:27:29 [AaronSw]

Oh, oops.

03:27:46 [AaronSw]

I better go too.

03:27:53 [AaronSw]

GR: luau-thingy

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03:43:22 [sbp]

is Aaron still there?

03:43:29 [sbp]

Hmph. anyway, the bot's basically done

03:44:34 [sbp]

well, I just have to make it a bit more chump-ish

03:45:04 [wmf-etcon]

AaronSw went to a "luau-thingy"

04:07:31 [sbp]

@ http://google.blogspace.com/

04:07:41 [sbp]

A:|Google Weblog

04:08:09 [chumpy]

A: http://google.blogspace.com/ from sbp

04:08:26 [chumpy]

titled item A

04:08:38 [sbp]

A::"The latest news on everyone's favorite search engine."

04:08:55 [chumpy]

commented item A

04:31:58 [sbp]

* sbp completes chumpette

04:32:10 [jillzilla]

How does he look?

04:32:51 [sbp]

er... well, I'll bring him/her in here anyway, so that Aaron will have a copy of the test query on record (it'll save me emailing it)

04:33:03 [Ash]

goood evening

04:33:06 [chumpette]

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04:33:14 [sbp]

chumpette, <http://google.blogspace.com/> dc:title "Google Weblog"; dc:creator "Aaron Swartz" .

04:33:14 [chumpette]

added 2 triples

04:33:21 [sbp]

chumpette, <http://google.blogspace.com/> rdfs:seeAlso <http://www.google.com/">http://www.google.com/> . <http://www.google.com/> dc:title "Google" .

04:33:22 [chumpette]

added 2 triples

04:33:28 [sbp]

chumpette, { ?thing dc:title ?title; log:uri ?uri; dc:creator ?creator . ("<dl><dt><a href=\"" ?uri "\">" ?title "</a>, by " ?creator "</dt>") string:concat ?result } => { "result" log:outputString ?result } ?

04:33:28 [chumpette]

blogged "result"

04:33:31 [Ash]

* Ash yawns

04:33:34 [sbp]

chumpette, { ?thing dc:title "Google Weblog"; rdfs:seeAlso ?also . ?also log:uri ?uri; dc:title ?title . ("<dd>related: <a href=\"" ?uri "\">" ?title "</a></dd></dl>") string:concat ?result } => { "result b" log:outputString ?result } ?

04:33:36 [chumpette]

blogged "result b"

04:33:45 [Ash]

ack

04:33:50 [sbp]

now it's blogged that locally to a file

04:33:55 [Ash]

* Ash kicks sbp

04:34:04 [sbp]

excuse me?

04:34:34 [sbp]

Hmm... perhaps we should use is rdfs:seeAlso of on that second entry...

04:34:53 [Ash]

having a laptop rules

04:34:54 [Ash]

hehe

04:34:57 [sbp]

<http://www.google.com/> dc:title "Google"; is rdfs:seeAlso of <http://google.blogspace.com/> .

04:35:02 [chumpette]

chumpette has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer))

04:35:11 [sbp]

anyway, that's done. now I've just got to ship it off...

04:39:44 [sbp]

now bad: about 21KB tar'd and gz'd

04:44:19 [sbp]

* sbp sends it off

04:46:15 [sbp]

wel, I'm pleased with that. thanks everybody

04:46:17 [sbp]

Gotta run

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05:11:26 [redmonk]

hello

05:11:28 [redmonk]

anyone awake?

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05:31:16 [wmf-etcon]

hey redmonk

05:31:43 [wmf-etcon]

oh, he left

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11:36:19 [pixel]

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11:37:31 [pixel]

hi all (once again, I'm sure you're all asleep.)

11:40:54 [quasi]

nope

11:41:08 [pixel]

wow.

11:41:28 [pixel]

I'm usually the only one awake when I get here (and sometimes, I'm net even awake.)

11:41:40 [pixel]

brb. need soem coffee.

11:41:46 [rik]

* rik me0ws.

11:41:55 [quasi]

.time CEST

11:42:57 [quasi]

hmmm - Fri May 10 13:42:51 CEST 2002

11:43:16 [quasi]

I should be awake - at least in theory ;)

11:45:00 [pixel]

where are you located?

11:45:08 [quasi]

.dk

11:45:36 [pixel]

cool. so what do you do for a living?

11:45:52 [quasi]

unix admin

11:46:10 [pixel]

seems to be a theme here. heheh

11:46:59 [quasi]

yeah - a horrible thing to be doing ;)

11:47:23 [pixel]

hehe.

11:47:57 [quasi]

not too bad now though - 2 weeks vacation in Costa Del Backyard helps a bit ;)

11:48:18 [pixel]

Costa Del Backyard?

11:48:25 [quasi]

home

11:48:37 [pixel]

hehe. that's what I was thinking =)

11:48:58 [pixel]

Just had to make sure. there are some weird named places out there.

11:49:06 [rik]

:)

11:49:26 [pixel]

so are the people in denmark tea or coffee drinkers?

11:50:07 [quasi]

coffee mostly

11:50:38 [pixel]

that's good.

11:51:12 [quasi]

and for the tea nobody does weird stuff like the brits ;)

11:52:13 [pixel]

they're a bunch of weirdos over there.

11:52:21 [rik]

* rik notes he doesn't like tea.

11:52:33 [quasi]

* quasi knows that coffee is unhealty - currently contemplating s/coffee/beer/ ;)

11:52:54 [pixel]

haha

11:53:06 [quasi]

rik: tea can be made drinkable - just add enough booze ;)

11:53:12 [rik]

ewwww.

11:53:54 [pixel]

I drink tea after a few months of coffee. otherwise, my coffee drinking tends to escalate to drinking 5 or 6 cups of cofee a day.

11:54:04 [pixel]

tea + bourbon = gooooood.

11:54:38 [pixel]

(the bourbon pretty much gets rid of any tea flavor, so it's more like drinking a nightcap.

11:54:40 [pixel]

hehe

11:54:53 [quasi]

pixel: I'm down to 1 cup of coffee a day at work - that used to be like 5 or 6

11:55:43 [quasi]

tea and Stroh Rum (the 80% version) is quite good too ;)

11:55:45 [pixel]

good for you. I started with my tea routine yesterday, because I was up to 5 coffees a day. I'll do the tea awhile, and then back to 1 coffee a day. weems to moderate me well.

11:56:16 [pixel]

I'll have to try tea+rum! (they frown upon doing things like that here at work, unfortunately.)

11:57:07 [quasi]

pixel: to be honest it is probably one coffee and 3 or 4 tea /day

11:57:36 [quasi]

that seems to work well for not driking too much coffee

11:58:08 [pixel]

yup.

11:58:25 [pixel]

too much coffee makes my kidneys hurt too.

11:59:55 [quasi]

with the coffee we have at work it is more like the old ulcer acting up with too much of it ;)

12:00:25 [pixel]

hehe. I actually found some of the sticks and branches from the coffee tree in our coffee a few times.

12:03:18 [quasi]

well, ours is a fairly decent coffee, but the filter is lousy, so that you end up with lots of coffee grounds in the cup

12:04:05 [pixel]

ick. that's even worse.

12:04:35 [quasi]

a bit like having espresso all day ;)

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12:59:23 [pixel]

lo morb

13:00:43 [Morbus]

yup, yup.

13:00:51 [Morbus]

just finished up with O last night.

13:00:54 [Morbus]

moving on to P, and then S.

13:00:57 [Morbus]

(sound tracks)

13:01:06 [Morbus]

you're gonna need to replenish me with new stuff in a few weeks ;)

13:01:09 [pixel]

hehe cool.

13:01:27 [pixel]

I'll be cleaning out the crap I don't lsiten to, and filling it up with new

13:01:38 [Morbus]

good, good.

13:01:44 [Morbus]

do the S's first.

13:01:53 [Morbus]

S's through Z.

13:01:59 [Morbus]

then I won't start dling crap you delete '_)

13:03:40 [pixel]

hehe

13:07:36 [rik]

Morbus: what's the difference between a bad sniper and a constipated owl?

13:07:58 [rik]

one can shoot but can't hit...

13:08:20 [pixel]

hehehehe

13:09:08 [Morbus]

oh man.

13:18:09 [Morbus]

i don't understand this.

13:18:21 [Morbus]

i unsubscribed from another mailing list, and now I have 200+ more mails.

13:18:26 [Morbus]

i'm back up to 800 a day.

13:18:31 [Morbus]

* Morbus scratches head.

13:20:58 [rik]

* rik scratches Morbus's head.

13:21:32 [pixel]

* pixel just scratches alot of things.

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13:22:34 [Morbus]

glutton! gluuUTtton!

13:27:39 [Morbus]

[[[

13:27:41 [Morbus]

[09:27] <vrm> Hi

13:27:41 [Morbus]

[09:27] <Morbus> vrooOOM!

13:27:41 [Morbus]

[09:28] <vrm> got a bus error with apache & ssl got a tip ?

13:27:41 [Morbus]

[09:28] <vrm> :)

13:27:41 [Morbus]

[09:28] <Morbus> get a cab

13:27:42 [Morbus]

]]]

13:28:07 [Morbus]

+[[[

13:28:09 [Morbus]

[09:28] <vrm> it's an idea

13:28:09 [Morbus]

[09:28] <Morbus> oh. perhaps 3DES instead, then?

13:28:10 [Morbus]

]]]+

13:33:58 [Morbus]

"Lord Satan": Python 1.6 and later compatibility

13:34:05 [Morbus]

- from http://edna.sourceforge.net/

14:29:44 [Ash]

MORBAS

14:29:53 [Morbus]

hey ash.

14:29:58 [Ash]

How are you doing this morning?

14:30:05 [Morbus]

eh.

14:30:09 [Ash]

Yeah, me too.

14:30:12 [Ash]

* Ash tries to wake up

14:30:30 [Ash]

* Ash listens to better than ezra

14:37:05 [Ash]

it looks like it's going to rain today

14:52:01 [Morbus]

eric: just went through all the rest of your colleciton. i only have four more cds to leech. yay!

14:52:52 [pixel]

wow. only 4?

14:52:57 [Morbus]

yup.

14:53:16 [Morbus]

your two crystal methods, plastikman, and the rhpshow.

14:53:53 [Ash]

woah, crystal method

14:53:53 [Ash]

woo

14:55:20 [pixel]

the plastikman is awesome. I actually got that CD from Ritchie Hawkins (plastikman himself)

14:55:40 [Morbus]

yeah? cool. i have artifaks for real.

14:55:54 [Ash]

does anybody besides me like Man Or Astro Man?

14:55:55 [Ash]

heh

14:56:02 [pixel]

I did an animation for one of his raves in michigan (I think it was), and he gave me a CD for my time. hehe

15:14:23 [sbp]

* sbp waves

15:16:01 [sbp]

sbp has changed the topic to: Where sysadmins come to cry

15:16:39 [Morbus]

sigh. i love amazon

15:16:49 [Morbus]

the recommendation syustem makes my heart swoon

15:17:32 [Ash]

* Ash cries!

15:17:36 [Ash]

hehe

15:17:38 [Ash]

hey sbp!

15:17:43 [Ash]

* Ash hands SBP a pound sign

15:19:00 [sbp]

why, thank you!

15:19:05 [sbp]

I presume you mean £

15:19:26 [Ash]

no

15:19:35 [Ash]

the octawhatever

15:20:16 [sbp]

octothorpe

15:20:20 [Ash]

yeah.

15:20:23 [Ash]

I handed you one of those.

15:20:27 [Ash]

;-)

15:20:34 [sbp]

for the logs: <Ash> no; <Ash> #

15:20:38 [Ash]

How's jolly old england this morning?

15:20:43 [sbp]

it's grey

15:20:53 [sbp]

well, this part of it, anyway

15:22:08 [sbp]

* sbp is just going through deleting most of his email

15:22:14 [Morbus]

* Morbus is entering all his cds into amazon's recommendation system

15:23:21 [rik]

heh

15:23:32 [Morbus]

rik: i'm tellin', it works.

15:23:34 [sbp]

rik!

15:23:38 [rik]

me!

15:23:41 [rik]

* rik backflips.

15:23:42 [sbp]

you!

15:23:45 [rik]

sbp!

15:23:51 [sbp]

.backflip a while ago

15:23:52 [rik]

* sbp backflips

15:23:56 [rik]

really?

15:23:58 [rik]

oh.

15:24:04 [rik]

heh

15:24:16 [sbp]

* sbp decides to do as Morbus

15:24:27 [Morbus]

sbp: i'm tellin ya, i've entered books, dvds, and music.

15:24:29 [sbp]

cool: http://www.google.com/logos/dali.gif

15:24:32 [rik]

* rik is composing e-mail to admins of a box he hs root on for security reasons.

15:24:36 [Morbus]

and the recommendation gets better the more you add.

15:24:39 [Morbus]

i'm very happy with it.

15:24:48 [Morbus]

i may not buy from amazon, but the recommendations are dead on.

15:25:02 [Morbus]

good personal shopper

15:25:06 [rik]

mysql> select user.Host,user.User,user.Password,db from user left join db on user.User=db.User where Password='';

15:25:07 [sbp]

lol

15:25:08 [rik]

[snip]

15:25:15 [rik]

45 rows in set (0.00 sec)

15:25:23 [rik]

45 ROWS!

15:25:30 [rik]

* rik boggles.

15:25:34 [Morbus]

yahtzee!

15:25:43 [rik]

* rik notes it's every account on the MySQL database that he didn't setup.

15:36:33 [sbp]

Heh, it suggested: Java in a Nutshell

15:36:40 [Morbus]

heh, heh.

15:36:40 [sbp]

I don't think so

15:36:47 [Morbus]

i think it suggested that to me too once ;)

15:36:56 [sbp]

heh. I guess I need to add a few more items...

15:37:05 [Morbus]

well, be sure to say you're not interested.

15:37:22 [Morbus]

once you add a few items, you can go through 120 recommendations and say that you're not interested in some of them.

15:37:25 [Morbus]

and it'll tweak it as you go.

15:38:02 [sbp]

cool

15:38:10 [Morbus]

i'm on N right now.

15:38:17 [Morbus]

i can't wait to see what they recommedn after I put all the rest in ;)

15:40:05 [sbp]

ah, it's bringing up others that I own already

15:40:10 [Morbus]

:)

15:41:24 [sbp]

ugh, it's bringing up Java book after Java book after Java book

15:41:28 [sbp]

NOT INTERESTED!

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15:41:33 [walloper]

<lilo> Hi all. Services is now set up on a temporary host. It will probably split and rejoin from time to time. We need a high-reliability hidden server running FreeBSD to provide a new venue for it. If you think you might be able to sponsor such a server, please /msg lilo or email lilo@penprojects.net. Thanks!

15:41:47 [Morbus]

penprojects?

15:41:50 [sbp]

lol!

15:41:58 [sbp]

perhaps he's using the o from his nickname

15:42:00 [Morbus]

hehehe.

15:42:20 [Morbus]

http://archives.postgresql.org/pgsql-php/2001-09/msg00024.php

15:42:21 [Morbus]

oop.

15:42:24 [redmonk]

yo yo yo

15:42:31 [redmonk]

morning all

15:42:35 [Morbus]

-> *lilo* penprojects.net? man. i DO need a better pen

15:42:35 [walloper]

<lilo> oops, that email address was lilo@openprojects ..... apologies for the typo

15:42:36 [Morbus]

heh.

15:42:41 [Morbus]

hehe

15:42:45 [sbp]

heh, I did it too

15:42:48 [sbp]

-> *lilo* um... penprojects?

15:42:50 [Morbus]

yeaaaah

15:42:54 [walloper]

<lilo> erm, lilo@openprojects.net .... maybe I should go back to bed and try getting up one more time :)

15:42:59 [redmonk]

"Who is the channel that can taunt you like no one can?"

15:43:08 [redmonk]

"SWHACK!"

15:43:11 [sbp]

Sssssssshwhack!

15:43:11 [redmonk]

"Yeah Baby"

15:43:16 [Morbus]

yeaaahh :)

15:43:50 [redmonk]

"And who is the channel that has Aaron and a frying pan?"

15:43:55 [redmonk]

"SWHACK!"

15:43:59 [sbp]

Hmm... Java and XML... Not interested!

15:44:05 [Morbus]

Fry Pan of Intellect!

15:44:15 [Morbus]

redmonk: that's in my bio on ORA

15:44:20 [sbp]

heh, upside the head with the greatest of love, or whatever

15:44:25 [Morbus]

yup :)

15:44:44 [walloper]

<lilo> This is a WALLOPS message for the Open Projects Network. These messages contain non-critical comments and announcements and detailed server admin information. To turn them off, turn off user mode 'w'. On most clients: '/mode <yournick> -w'. Thanks.

15:45:29 [sbp]

ah, WOPN

15:46:13 [Morbus]

amazon needs an "unpopular music" choice in the search box.

15:49:16 [Morbus]

all done.

15:51:25 [Ash]

lol

15:52:18 [Morbus]

wha?

15:52:26 [Morbus]

ack.

15:52:30 [Morbus]

they recommend pink.

15:52:31 [Morbus]

weirdos.

15:52:45 [Morbus]

ooOh. new music. MMm>

15:53:29 [Ash]

Morbus: their recommendation service is being subverted by the music industry

15:53:34 [Ash]

maybe they have pay-for-placement now

15:53:35 [Morbus]

heh, heh.

15:53:39 [Ash]

everyone gets recommended "pink"

15:53:43 [Morbus]

heheheh.

15:53:48 [Morbus]

thats the only one that's been off so far

15:53:54 [Morbus]

ooh. and moulin rouge. that's off too.

15:54:32 [Ash]

what I found amusing was that those stupid music videos for Moulin Rouge were racier than the entire movie

15:54:43 [Ash]

and i can't stand whats-her-name that was in those vidoes

15:54:45 [Ash]

DIE

15:54:45 [Morbus]

mmMM. music video.

15:54:58 [Morbus]

.gnutella moulin rouge video

15:55:07 [Ash]

.gnutella cheese fries

15:55:17 [pixel]

I think there is a memory leak in the latest winamp.

15:55:23 [Morbus]

.gnutella on rye

15:55:28 [Morbus]

oh, pixel?

15:55:35 [pixel]

it's taking up 43MB of physical memory, and 75MB of virtual.

15:55:44 [Morbus]

streaming or just local?

15:55:54 [pixel]

everytime it goes to a new song, the usage goes up, and never decreases.

15:55:58 [pixel]

local.

15:56:06 [Morbus]

hmm. i don't have any local files on this box.

15:56:19 [pixel]

it goes up by like 150k per song.

15:56:56 [pixel]

actually about 50k.

15:57:27 [pixel]

hmm. I closed the minibrowser, and now it's taking up 51MB of physical and 75 virtual.

15:57:40 [Morbus]

hehehe.

15:58:00 [Morbus]

IF YOU DONT LKOO AT ORU ADS, WE HAXOR JOO!@

15:58:06 [pixel]

uh, ok.

15:58:45 [Morbus]

* Morbus fiddles with his wishlist.

15:58:57 [pixel]

mine doesn't seem to get smaller.

15:59:03 [Morbus]

i'm removing all the ps2 games.

15:59:05 [Morbus]

no time to play em.

15:59:16 [Morbus]

oh, they tweaked the display of it.

15:59:17 [pixel]

by that logic, I should remove everything in my wishlist.

15:59:21 [Morbus]

heheh.

15:59:38 [Morbus]

well, when i think of games, or knowledge/music, I always go to knowledge music.

15:59:44 [Morbus]

knowledge, of course, but music is passive, unlike games.

15:59:50 [Morbus]

that's my reasoning.

15:59:56 [pixel]

Netscape has become the default browse4r, and no matter what I do, I can't make IE the default. hmph.

16:01:58 [pixel]

there are 404 items in my wishlist.

16:02:11 [pixel]

I wonder if I have the largest wishlist.

16:02:27 [pixel]

and if not, who is the loser that does?

16:03:21 [sbp]

heh, "you've been los3d by pixel"

16:03:54 [sbp]

or perhaps "los3r3d

16:03:57 [sbp]

end quote"

16:04:25 [pixel]

hehe

16:05:25 [Ash]

music isn't passive

16:05:28 [Ash]

* Ash kicks Morbus

16:05:56 [pixel]

it requires much less involvement and thought than say a book or video game.

16:06:54 [Morbus]

yeah, pixel got what i meant.

16:06:57 [sbp]

not necessarily

16:06:59 [Morbus]

i know music isn't slack jaw passive.

16:07:05 [Ash]

Well, it's not necessarily passive.

16:07:08 [Ash]

Is what I meant.

16:07:09 [Ash]

hehe

16:07:10 [Morbus]

but you CAN listen to it whilst you're doing something else.

16:07:17 [sbp]

right

16:07:21 [sbp]

so we're all agreed

16:07:24 [Ash]

If you're involved in creating the music it's a whole different story.

16:07:25 [Ash]

Yes.

16:07:26 [Morbus]

you can't do it with games, book, yadda yadda.

16:07:26 [Ash]

WE AGREE

16:07:29 [Ash]

DAMNIT

16:07:31 [Morbus]

MORBAS!

16:07:33 [Ash]

MORBAS

16:07:49 [Ash]

Morbus: Indeed.

16:07:52 [Ash]

I have music playing all day long

16:07:56 [Ash]

woo

16:08:08 [sbp]

ah, Music...

16:08:20 [Morbus]

Ash: i can't at work, but at home, yeah, it goes on immediately and doesn't stop until i sleep

16:08:40 [Ash]

You can't listen to music at work???

16:08:42 [Ash]

That would suck :(

16:08:50 [pixel]

that REALLY sucks.

16:08:53 [Ash]

* Ash thinks morbus really must be a netslave

16:09:01 [Morbus]

doesnt' bother me.

16:09:09 [pixel]

heheh

16:09:19 [pixel]

he's not a netslave anymore. he sold that.

16:09:31 [Ash]

Well, it wouldn't bother me *that* much.. but it's nice for when I'm trying to focus

16:09:44 [Ash]

i can put on some headphones and nobody bugs me

16:09:45 [Ash]

hehe

16:17:32 [sbp]

* sbp plays Think About It

16:23:00 [Morbus]

heh.

16:23:00 [Morbus]

they just recommended me the java cookbook.

16:25:42 [sbp]

heh, heh

16:26:48 [Morbus]

bwahah. and the "java and xml" book.

16:26:59 [Morbus]

sbp and I are the same demographic!

16:27:02 [Morbus]

how disheartening.

16:28:00 [sbp]

hey!

16:28:24 [Morbus]

heh, heh.

16:31:52 [Morbus]

hey, eric, check your site in mozilla.

16:31:55 [Morbus]

doesn't look right.

16:32:06 [pixel]

I know. I was looking at it in netscape this morning.

16:32:23 [pixel]

is the content section pushed to the bottom?

16:32:32 [Morbus]

yuyp

16:32:33 [pixel]

or what does it look like to you?

16:32:35 [pixel]

hmm.

16:33:24 [pixel]

it's doing weird things with the DIV.

16:34:00 [pixel]

if there is text in the DIV that needs to wrap, it pushes the div to the bottom, rather than wrapping it.

16:36:40 [jillzilla]

* jillzilla appears.

16:36:56 [pixel]

thanks for the maria da paz. it's good.

16:37:00 [sbp]

Jill!

16:37:06 [jillzilla]

pixel: excellent!

16:37:11 [jillzilla]

sbp!

16:37:24 [rik]

* rik pounces on jill and jumps up and down happily

16:37:33 [jillzilla]

* jillzilla cuddles rik.

16:37:40 [rik]

* rik purrs happily

16:37:40 [jillzilla]

Well, I did it.

16:37:44 [jillzilla]

I cut my hair.

16:37:48 [jillzilla]

(well, someone else cut my hair)

16:37:50 [rik]

eep.

16:37:54 [sbp]

argh! nooooooo!

16:37:57 [jillzilla]

It looks good.

16:38:15 [pixel]

just one of them, or all of them?

16:38:16 [jillzilla]

Short on the bottom with plenty to run one's fingers through on the top.

16:38:20 [jillzilla]

pixel: Most of them.

16:38:25 [rik]

oh, that's okay then.

16:38:35 [rik]

* rik whispers "digital camera"

16:38:49 [redmonk]

yay jill!

16:38:50 [pixel]

cameras are good.

16:38:51 [jillzilla]

* jillzilla bursts out laughing.

16:38:53 [redmonk]

you go girl

16:38:56 [jillzilla]

at sweetrelease

16:39:00 [jillzilla]

Rowr!

16:39:04 [rik]

heh

16:39:08 [jillzilla]

I wonder if anyone around has a camera...

16:39:18 [pixel]

I do. but I'm nto around there.

16:39:19 [sbp]

bloody typical. people ask for your advice and then just do what they want anyway

16:39:36 [rik]

sbp: it was to make sure she wasn't attractive to you.

16:39:41 [rik]

she can't be ravihed all the time

16:39:41 [sbp]

heh

16:39:45 [rik]

she wouldn't get any work done1

16:39:46 [rik]

!

16:39:52 [sbp]

did I ever say that long hair is attractive?

16:40:04 [sbp]

did I ever not say it?

16:40:05 [rik]

i canm't remember.

16:40:06 [jillzilla]

sbp: You don't understand! The woman who cut my hair agreed with me that my hair looked dreadful! It was fantastic.

16:40:12 [rik]

oh, okay then

16:40:14 [jillzilla]

She could have done anything she wanted to my hair at that point.

16:40:19 [sbp]

My fence loves me and I shall not be moved

16:40:24 [jillzilla]

And now you can see my ears.

16:40:27 [rik]

not looking dreadful is better than looking vaguely attractive.

16:40:27 [redmonk]

redmonk has quit ("headed to work. cya laters")

16:40:39 [jillzilla]

rik: I look much better now.

16:40:41 [jillzilla]

MUCH.

16:40:43 [rik]

good good.

16:40:50 [jillzilla]

sbp: Your fence?

16:40:51 [pixel]

you know what's funny to listen to? German Rap.

16:40:58 [Morbus]

i want the new photoshop 7.

16:41:00 [Morbus]

looks so good.

16:41:22 [pixel]

my boss is supposed to be ordering it for me. I'm still using 5.0

16:41:27 [sbp]

anyway, if you and your haridresser think it looks better, then it probably is :-)

16:41:33 [Morbus]

have him get the os x version too ;)

16:41:47 [pixel]

heheh I think he'd wonder.

16:43:57 [sbp]

ooh, I'm in conspiracy theory mode today, I think

16:44:18 [pixel]

why's that?

16:44:45 [sbp]

well, I keep coming up with conspiracy theories for the most mundane events

16:44:52 [pixel]

such as?

16:45:07 [sbp]

Pff, please

16:45:20 [pixel]

hehhehe

16:45:30 [sbp]

perhaps it's just the cynic in me popping out to say hello

16:45:47 [pixel]

how about a conspiracy for why these ehadphones stopped working.

16:45:58 [pixel]

ehadphones = headphones

16:46:12 [pixel]

OR! even better, why I can't type.

16:46:25 [sbp]

Something to do with Morbus wanting to control your listening, I'm sure. He probably did it remotely through som eoccult ceremony

16:46:40 [sbp]

oh, well that's because you're tired

16:46:47 [pixel]

heheh

16:46:58 [pixel]

I think the tired thing is probably right.

16:47:10 [sbp]

but the reason that you're tired is because the security services are drugging you by spiking your coffee supply

16:47:45 [pixel]

EHEHE

16:48:00 [Ash]

hi jillzilla

16:48:20 [sbp]

she's gone to get her hair tousled

16:48:52 [Ash]

oh

16:48:58 [Ash]

that sounds like fun.

16:51:52 [sbp]

Hmm... I wonder if "I'm Confused" can be considered Public Domain?

16:55:23 [sbp]

well, smell ya later

16:55:23 [sbp]

Gotta run

16:58:15 [jillzilla]

My hair is touseled!

16:58:23 [jillzilla]

* jillzilla waves goodbye to sbp.

16:59:02 [jillzilla]

* jillzilla reads sbp's conspiracy theories. Dear me!

16:59:05 [jillzilla]

ASH

17:03:28 [Ash]

hi sbp!

17:03:31 [Ash]

er

17:03:34 [Ash]

s/sbp/jillzilla/

17:03:40 [Ash]

how are you?

17:04:09 [Ash]

I'm just searching to make sure this person hasn't emailed me about a problem so I can flame her ass

17:04:10 [Ash]

damnit

17:04:23 [Ash]

i hate it when people complain like IT isn't doing anything because they've never told me about their problem.

17:11:21 [pixel]

pixel has changed the topic to: Where sysadmins come to cry (Come On Eileen)

17:13:14 [Ash]

* Ash sends flaming email

17:13:36 [pixel]

flamer.

17:15:56 [Ash]

* Ash puts a rainbow sticker on pixel

17:16:20 [pixel]

hehehe

17:16:29 [Ash]

:)

17:19:16 [jillzilla]

Ash> i hate it when people complain like IT isn't doing anything because they've never told me about their problem.

17:19:18 [jillzilla]

HEAR HEAR!

17:19:44 [jillzilla]

"Oh, I didn't want to bother you!" "ARGH! It bothers me when things don't work!"

17:20:15 [Ash]

Heh

17:20:37 [Ash]

Well, what bothers me is when you send email out to the whole company telling them not to take the letterhead out of tray 1 on this big fancy new printer, because for some reason she can't print to tray two

17:20:45 [Ash]

and putting a line at the end that says "Hopefully this will be resolved"

17:20:49 [Ash]

as if she's been waiting on us or something

17:20:50 [Ash]

oh man

17:20:52 [Ash]

* Ash kill

17:21:25 [jillzilla]

wait, I missed something. Who sent what?

17:21:43 [Ash]

some luser sends an email to everyone

17:22:06 [Ash]

says she can't print to tray 2, so she's using the manual feed tray, and please don't take out the paper

17:22:22 [Ash]

i've been wondering for weeks who the hell is printing from tray 1

17:22:32 [Ash]

but nobody has called me, so I just go over there and take the paper out.

17:22:39 [jillzilla]

ARGH!

17:22:40 [jillzilla]

KILL!

17:22:43 [Ash]

i figure someone will eventually get pissed enough to send out an email like this

17:22:50 [Ash]

or more correctly, send it to ME

17:22:51 [jillzilla]

And then you can KILL that person.

17:23:00 [jillzilla]

Well, for sending it to everyone.

17:23:00 [Ash]

rather than acting like IT isn't helping her out

17:23:01 [Ash]

oh man

17:23:03 [Ash]

kill

17:23:04 [Ash]

KILL

17:23:05 [Ash]

* Ash dies

17:23:13 [jillzilla]

* jillzilla revives Ash.

17:23:53 [sbp]

* sbp waves

17:24:03 [Ash]

thanks, jillzilla

17:24:09 [jillzilla]

* jillzilla waves to sbp.

17:24:14 [Ash]

when my boss is back from whatever he's doing i'm going to give him an earfula

17:24:19 [Ash]

and he will flame her ass even worse

17:24:23 [Ash]

bwahahaha

17:24:43 [redmonk]

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17:24:52 [sbp]

Hi rm

17:24:54 [jillzilla]

I just wonder how she thought things were going to get fixed. Is her world populated by printer gnomes who can read her mind?

17:25:01 [redmonk]

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17:25:02 [jillzilla]

hello, redmonk.

17:25:05 [Ash]

heh

17:25:05 [jillzilla]

d'ohh.

17:25:13 [sbp]

heh

17:25:19 [redmonk]

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17:25:30 [Ash]

jillzilla, I just got an email back saying "Oh, i was able to work around it so I didn't want to bug you guys, I know you're busy"

17:25:31 [Ash]

argh

17:25:36 [Ash]

BUG ME SO I KNOW WHAT THE PROBLEM IS

17:25:38 [Ash]

OR I KILL YOU

17:25:46 [redmonk]

hehe

17:25:48 [jillzilla]

It's not like you are incapable of ignoring things. :-)

17:25:55 [Ash]

Heheheh.

17:25:58 [jillzilla]

If they are trivial luser issues.

17:26:05 [Ash]

Exactly.

17:26:07 [redmonk]

I AM THE PUSHER ROBOT

17:26:11 [sbp]

\topic Where sysadmins come to moan

17:26:11 [redmonk]

muhahaha

17:26:16 [jillzilla]

I AM THE LUSER ROBOT

17:26:19 [Ash]

I'll point her in the right direction if she's an idiot

17:26:27 [jillzilla]

sbp: The sysadmins have not yet BEGUN to moan.

17:26:32 [Ash]

PUSHER ROBOT, PUSH THE LUSER ROBOT DOWN THE STAIRS

17:26:37 [jillzilla]

NOOOOO

17:26:45 [Ash]

PUSHING WILL PROTECT SYSADMINS FROM THE TERRIBLE SECRET OF SPACE

17:26:48 [redmonk]

so, jill, do we get a picture of your new do?

17:26:55 [jillzilla]

I don't have a digital camera.

17:27:03 [Ash]

Yeah, when's the jillcam coming back up?

17:27:05 [jillzilla]

Well, I do, but I haven't installed the kernel module to make it go.

17:27:08 [redmonk]

put your head on the scanner

17:27:12 [jillzilla]

* jillzilla laughs.

17:27:12 [redmonk]

l-)

17:27:17 [jillzilla]

"That's not my head!"

17:28:13 [Ash]

brb

17:28:25 [jillzilla]

* jillzilla sits on the scanner.

17:28:31 [redmonk]

back in 96 i put up a site with an animated gif (remember those?) of my face, made from various scans

17:28:55 [jillzilla]

I've still never learned to make an animated gif. I'm so primitive.

17:29:02 [redmonk]

i got an email from some media critic in NY saying it was "sexy and mysterious"

17:29:03 [sbp]

head, Jill

17:29:11 [jillzilla]

sbp: Oh...head...

17:29:27 [jillzilla]

"sexy and mysterious" ....wooo. Were you already married?

17:29:34 [redmonk]

i was like "huh?!"

17:29:36 [redmonk]

no

17:29:38 [redmonk]

not yet

17:29:47 [jillzilla]

*nudge* *nudge*

17:30:02 [redmonk]

(was not at the time, i should say)

17:30:15 [sbp]

ooh, Dylan review in the Mail!

17:30:19 [redmonk]

you ever see hoopla.com?

17:30:21 [sbp]

* sbp reads it

17:30:22 [jillzilla]

nope

17:30:34 [redmonk]

or smug.com?

17:30:38 [jillzilla]

nope

17:30:51 [jillzilla]

I saw findthespam.org

17:30:59 [redmonk]

anyway, Leslie Harpold runs them - she was the one who emailed me

17:31:03 [jillzilla]

a truly brilliant website.

17:31:07 [redmonk]

funny all in all

17:34:02 [sbp]

another fairly good write up

17:34:14 [sbp]

(titled "How does it feel? Pretty darned good")

17:34:21 [jillzilla]

:-)

17:35:40 [sbp]

but neither review has managed to capture just how outstanding a performance it was; why do reviews always concentrate on the setting and context rather than the songs? there's never a good enough balance

17:36:25 [jillzilla]

One has to be a musician to write about music, and people who aren't musicians won't understand.

17:37:05 [sbp]

ah, good point. I don't think that either of the reviwers were musicians (venturing a guess)

17:37:18 [sbp]

* sbp searches for online reviews

17:37:18 [jillzilla]

And few of their readers are, as well.

17:38:20 [jillzilla]

Is there a removable media device that can hold ~40GB? Hmm, tapes, I guess.

17:38:42 [jillzilla]

I want to have one copy and one backup of my ripped CDs.

17:39:01 [deltab]

ipod! :-)

17:39:25 [jillzilla]

Oh, is there a good interface to that? Something I can run from the linux and openbsd boxes?

17:39:53 [jillzilla]

I thought it was an mp3 player -- how much does it hold?

17:40:08 [jillzilla]

Also, isn't it from Apple? They usually don't do interoperable stuff.

17:40:10 [deltab]

it can also be used as a portable hard disk

17:40:28 [jillzilla]

Ooh. How big?

17:40:39 [pixel]

or, you could just buy an external hard drive.

17:41:27 [deltab]

oh, 5 or 10

17:42:01 [deltab]

yeah, an external hard drive

17:42:16 [pixel]

maxtor makes some nice external hard drives. a 40GB, 120GB and a 160GB.

17:42:54 [sbp]

ah, one guy noticed the fireworks after the show. I wondered about them, too

17:43:04 [jillzilla]

dumb question: what kind of connectors? The only external HDs I've used ahve been SCSI.

17:43:20 [pixel]

they make USB and Firewire versions.

17:43:29 [pixel]

http://www.googlegear.com/jsp/ProductDetail.jsp?ProductCode=100609

17:43:31 [jillzilla]

USB would work. Cool.

17:43:35 [sbp]

wow, the next show had quite a different setlist

17:43:54 [pixel]

that one is the 40GB USB, $148.99 after rebate.

17:44:12 [jillzilla]

* jillzilla waits for the page to load.

17:44:27 [pixel]

the 120GB one (also USB) is around $260.

17:44:44 [pixel]

the 160GB, and 80GB use firewire.

17:45:19 [pixel]

(and are somewhat more expensive)

17:45:20 [jillzilla]

Oh, dear. I'll have to find out if my machine has USB 2.0.

17:45:32 [pixel]

what do you have/

17:45:37 [jillzilla]

Thinkpad 600.

17:46:11 [rik]

yaaay

17:46:14 [rik]

* rik hugs ThinkPad

17:46:32 [jillzilla]

* jillzilla laughs.

17:46:36 [rik]

* rik purrs, curls up on keyboard

17:46:47 [pixel]

hmm. it has USB, but I can't tell if it's 2.0

17:46:54 [rik]

pixel: on a TP600? it's not.

17:47:03 [rik]

* rik is ircing from a TP 600.

17:47:10 [pixel]

cool.

17:47:10 [jillzilla]

I very much doubt it's 2.0. Too old.

17:47:16 [jillzilla]

But I run a USB keyboard and mouse.

17:47:21 [pixel]

the drives also work with 1.1 USB.

17:47:29 [pixel]

http://www.maxtor.com/products/ExternalStorage/3000LE/pdf/3000LEdatasheet2_02g.pdf

17:47:29 [jillzilla]

Hmmmm?

17:48:02 [pixel]

it would run a bit slower on USB 1.1, but it would still work fine.

17:48:02 [jillzilla]

Well, I've blown my computer budget for the next several months anyway, so I'm not buying it now.

17:48:11 [pixel]

hehe

17:48:12 [jillzilla]

But that sounds really good.

17:48:38 [rik]

hehhe

17:49:00 [jillzilla]

* jillzilla remembers financial reality. :-0

17:49:09 [jillzilla]

I'm moving in eight days!

17:49:12 [jillzilla]

* jillzilla dances.

17:49:34 [pixel]

you might check out http://www.buslink.com a guy here has one, and loves it.

17:50:06 [jillzilla]

pixel: AIEEE!

17:50:13 [pixel]

ehhe

17:50:21 [pixel]

sorry to take you back to fantasy land.

17:50:30 [jillzilla]

Yeah, sure.

17:51:14 [pixel]

I found the 40GB USB buslink for only $123.

17:51:33 [pixel]

oooh. 60GB buslink for $148.

17:51:37 [pixel]

:)

17:51:43 [jillzilla]

*whimper*

17:51:52 [pixel]

save up your pennies

17:51:56 [rik]

you don't need food this month!

17:52:01 [rik]

nor shampoo!

17:52:02 [jillzilla]

I eat at work...

17:52:08 [rik]

yeah

17:52:14 [jillzilla]

...and I just bought a $3 bottle of shampoo that'll last me 3 months...

17:52:15 [rik]

and cycling to work os cheaper than driving

17:52:20 [jillzilla]

Yes, much!

17:52:30 [rik]

so., you can afford the new toy!

17:52:31 [jillzilla]

And I should be able to cycle again once these allergy medications take effect.

17:52:35 [jillzilla]

rik: I am paying movers.

17:52:46 [rik]

hm

17:52:48 [rik]

* rik shrugs

17:52:52 [jillzilla]

And I'm paying double rent for half of this month.

17:52:58 [rik]

really? why?

17:53:00 [rik]

oh

17:53:00 [rik]

duh.

17:53:14 [jillzilla]

heh

17:53:21 [pixel]

eat ramen noodles.

17:53:24 [pixel]

I do.

17:53:28 [pixel]

in fact, I am right now.

17:53:37 [jillzilla]

* jillzilla refrains from describing what happened the last two times she ate Ramen noodles.

17:53:59 [pixel]

and we all thank you for your restraint.

17:54:06 [jillzilla]

np

17:54:13 [rik]

jill!

17:54:15 [jillzilla]

But I'm fed at work. I don't really need food at home.

17:54:18 [jillzilla]

rik?

17:54:25 [rik]

what's the difference between a comma and a kitty?

17:54:29 [jillzilla]

what?

17:54:36 [rik]

one has a pause after the clause...

17:54:53 [jillzilla]

Awwww...That's so cute.

17:54:58 [rik]

:)

17:55:27 [rik]

what's the difference between a bad sniper and a constipated owl?

17:56:06 [jillzilla]

gosh, rik, what would that be?

17:56:08 [rik]

one can shoot, but can't hit...

17:56:21 [pixel]

hehe

17:56:35 [sbp]

heh

17:56:42 [jillzilla]

Please, let's leave out the one about the pygmies and the women's track and field team.

17:57:19 [sbp]

ugh. you have to tell it now

17:57:33 [jillzilla]

oh dear.

17:57:38 [rik]

i don't know that one...

17:57:45 [jillzilla]

um.

17:58:00 [jillzilla]

one is a group of cunning runts.

17:58:12 [sbp]

oh, man

17:58:22 [rik]

hahaha

17:58:22 [jillzilla]

It's a bit of a stretch. Not to mention offensive.

17:58:33 [pixel]

should I laugh. hmm.

17:58:39 [jillzilla]

I more squirm.

17:58:44 [rik]

indeed

17:58:53 [sbp]

O.K., to settle, a vacuum and a randy Swiss admiral

17:59:08 [sbp]

(a good vacuum, even)

17:59:24 [sbp]

one sucks and never fails, and the other gets seasick

17:59:40 [jillzilla]

* jillzilla looks confused.

17:59:45 [sbp]

Gotta run

18:00:10 [jillzilla]

Oh, a personal favorite is the comparison between Rush Limbaugh and the Hindenburg.

18:00:50 [jillzilla]

* jillzilla wonders if rik and sbp know who Rush Limbaugh is.

18:00:52 [jillzilla]

I hope not.

18:01:39 [rik]

* rik shrugs

18:02:02 [redmonk]

i do

18:02:03 [jillzilla]

He's a radio talk show host, complains about the liberals.

18:02:11 [rik]

ah

18:02:25 [jillzilla]

Very nice speaking voice, but very dull after one gets the gist of his rants.

18:02:38 [jillzilla]

Anyway, the difference between RL and the Hindenburg:

18:02:50 [jillzilla]

One is a flaming Nazi gasbag. And the other is a dirigible.

18:03:07 [redmonk]

* redmonk golf-claps

18:03:12 [jillzilla]

(and I usually don't call people names like that, but Rush should be able to take what he dishes out)

18:03:31 [kenzo75]

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18:03:53 [rik]

heh

18:05:23 [AaronSw]

* AaronSw wonders if +sbp is around

18:05:38 [jillzilla]

he just hadda run.

18:05:43 [jillzilla]

but maybe.

18:07:12 [AaronSw]

* AaronSw waves, works on talk.

18:07:42 [Morbus]

* Morbus redmonk i just know the boss is gonna be like "so, uh... morbus, whatcha doing?"

18:07:49 [Morbus]

bwahahah

18:07:54 [Morbus]

ah well.

18:08:44 [AaronSw]

ah, well at least he emailed it to me

18:12:33 [jillzilla]

* jillzilla coughs at Morbus. Abuse of /me!

18:14:07 [Morbus]

[[[

18:14:07 [Morbus]

[14:14] <Morbus> the spike is now a protusion.

18:14:07 [Morbus]

[14:14] <Morbus> a phallic symbol of questionable proportions!

18:14:07 [Morbus]

]]]

18:14:15 [Morbus]

jillzilla: that was an accident.

18:20:31 [AaronSw]

Had dinner with TimBL last night. He saved a spot right next to him.

18:20:37 [AaronSw]

Ian Jacobs is pronounced eye-in.

18:20:45 [AaronSw]

Janet and Henrik are such a cute couple.

18:20:54 [AaronSw]

Tim has this cool pass-the-camera-panorma thing.

18:28:58 [jillzilla]

sbp: Orange Pekoe.

18:29:49 [pixel]

Earl Grey.

18:30:26 [redmonk]

"Tea. Earl Grey. Hot"

18:30:36 [Morbus]

heh, hhe.

18:30:44 [Morbus]

* Morbus ^5's redmonk.

18:30:48 [redmonk]

woo hoo!

18:30:51 [Morbus]

I have some twinnings at home.

18:30:54 [Morbus]

:)

18:30:57 [redmonk]

mmmm

18:33:23 [pixel]

I'm drinking Earl grey from a local tea company right now.

18:33:24 [chumpette]

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18:33:35 [AaronSw]

<http://www.w3.org>

18:33:35 [redmonk]

yummy

18:33:41 [AaronSw]

chumpette, <http://www.w3.org>

18:33:42 [chumpette]

chumpette has quit (Remote closed the connection)

18:33:54 [AaronSw]

Heh.

18:34:05 [redmonk]

* redmonk is driking coffee, desperately trying to wake up, even after two hours at work

18:35:36 [chumpette]

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18:35:39 [AaronSw]

chumpette, hi

18:35:39 [chumpette]

chumpette has quit (Remote closed the connection)

18:36:07 [AaronSw]

* AaronSw moves to #rdftest

18:43:41 [Morbus]

hey deus_x, you're site appeared on ORA.

18:43:43 [Morbus]

oh. you're not here.

18:44:14 [redmonk]

URI?

18:44:17 [jillzilla]

@ http://www.jacksonville.com/tu-online/stories/050502/met_9322821.html

18:44:26 [Morbus]

http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/a/webservices/2002/05/03/udell.html

18:44:33 [redmonk]

oh yea

18:44:36 [redmonk]

i saw that

18:44:45 [jillzilla]

heh. I have bad timing.

18:44:48 [chumpy]

B: http://www.jacksonville.com/tu-online/stories/050502/met_9322821.html from jillzilla

18:45:01 [AaronSw]

blogspace, ahem

18:45:37 [Morbus]

100%

18:45:40 [Morbus]

whOOoOOoOOO!

18:46:51 [pixel]

F(*&(&*ing netscape.

18:47:28 [redmonk]

bette check that it works, mor

18:47:36 [Morbus]

i wont know for three days ;)

18:48:01 [Morbus]

i hope the installer didn't get killed because of the tar ;)

18:48:07 [redmonk]

me too

18:48:08 [Morbus]

wondering about resource forks, etc.

18:48:12 [AaronSw]

sbp, do you _have_ to use 3 spaces for indents. ugh

18:48:17 [Morbus]

well, can't you untar it, and check it there?

18:48:23 [redmonk]

i suppose ;-)

18:48:34 [Morbus]

well, try it :)

18:48:48 [redmonk]

* redmonk waits ten minutes while 230mb tarz uncompresses

18:51:30 [redmonk]

shoulda used hfstar

18:52:53 [redmonk]

perhaps

18:53:13 [redmonk]

hm

18:56:58 [Morbus]

redmonk: http://homepage.mac.com/everyday/quickchange/

18:57:26 [Morbus]

see if you can set the file/creator of the real installer on the untar one.

18:57:36 [redmonk]

cool

18:59:51 [AaronSw]

sbp, chumpette doesn't like prefixes.

19:00:10 [AaronSw]

<AaronSw> chumpette, @prefix A: <http://www.google.com> .

19:00:10 [AaronSw]

<chumpette> huh? try that one again...

19:00:55 [sbp]

* sbp waves

19:00:57 [sbp]

right, it doesn't save prefixes yet

19:01:23 [sbp]

Orange Pekoe: aha

19:01:46 [AaronSw]

hm.

19:01:58 [AaronSw]

brb. i think i spy scoble

19:02:18 [sbp]

<AaronSw> sbp, do you _have_ to use 3 spaces for indents. ugh

19:02:18 [sbp]

huh?

19:02:30 [sbp]

of course I do

19:02:48 [Ash]

* Ash dances!

19:05:35 [jillzilla]

Careful. Ash just consumed sugar. Beware.

19:05:56 [sbp]

heh, heh

19:06:03 [jillzilla]

He admitted it.

19:08:39 [Ash]

jillzilla: plus I'm sucking on a lollipop

19:08:45 [jillzilla]

FEAR!

19:08:53 [sbp]

rowr

19:09:01 [Ash]

PHEAR M`/ S|{1LLZ

19:09:03 [sbp]

uh oh

19:09:08 [sbp]

Homer: Something said... not good...

19:11:11 [AaronSw]

gotta run: breakfast

19:12:22 [Morbus]

any luck, redmonk?

19:12:41 [redmonk]

have to copy the orig installer onto HD first - QC want's an unlocked file

19:12:49 [redmonk]

even to check the t/c

19:12:52 [redmonk]

(bleagh)

19:13:17 [Morbus]

pff. that's insane.

19:13:53 [redmonk]

yep

19:14:37 [redmonk]

hm. no good

19:14:46 [redmonk]

it know's it's an app, but no joy

19:14:51 [redmonk]

fuckin carbon

19:14:51 [Morbus]

changing em to match, didn't work?

19:14:55 [redmonk]

yeah

19:14:56 [Morbus]

what error?

19:15:07 [redmonk]

none

19:15:10 [redmonk]

nuttin happens

19:15:16 [Morbus]

argh

19:18:25 [redmonk]

how do you "update" the terminal env so that it "sees" something new in /usr/bin?

19:18:55 [redmonk]

nevermind

19:18:57 [jillzilla]

what shell?

19:18:58 [jillzilla]

oh.

19:20:15 [redmonk]

just had to open a new term

19:24:08 [redmonk]

* redmonk listens to Sophie B Hawkins. Guilty pleasures.

19:24:14 [redmonk]

"Let me in!"

19:24:30 [redmonk]

* redmonk hangs head in shame

19:26:48 [Morbus]

wah?

19:26:58 [Ash]

redmonk: rehash

19:27:00 [Ash]

in most

19:27:04 [redmonk]

ah

19:27:06 [redmonk]

cool

19:27:45 [pixel]

time to go. see everyone monday.

19:28:01 [sbp]

Gotta run

19:29:13 [pixel]

pixel has left #swhack

19:35:44 [Morbus]

monk, any luck?

19:36:06 [redmonk]

mmmm, yes

19:36:18 [Morbus]

oh?

19:36:32 [redmonk]

zipping now

19:36:38 [Morbus]

mMM.

19:36:54 [redmonk]

(hfstar is more limited - does not support the -z option)

19:46:12 [redmonk]

morbus

19:46:24 [redmonk]

rm -fr the ps7 file on disobey

19:49:57 [Morbus]

hold

19:50:08 [Morbus]

done

19:50:12 [Morbus]

how big?

19:52:06 [redmonk]

same size

19:52:17 [redmonk]

229+

19:53:04 [Morbus]

k

19:53:18 [redmonk]

on it's way

19:54:57 [Ash]

on dvorak now

19:55:27 [oierw`]

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19:55:54 [Ash]

i'm sooo slow on dvorak right now

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20:21:13 [Morbus]

brb

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20:23:41 [AaronSw]

woo! http://markBernstein.org/May0201.html#note_12199

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20:31:20 [redmonk]

morbus

20:31:23 [redmonk]

70%

20:31:28 [Morbus]

yay

20:31:46 [redmonk]

lol

20:37:55 [AaronSw]

alexa has donated a ton to the library of alexandria

20:38:04 [redmonk]

cool

20:38:49 [redmonk]

what kind of machine are you on at work?

20:38:55 [redmonk]

portable?

20:39:09 [Morbus]

nope. its an hp kayak. 800mhz, w2k.

20:39:18 [redmonk]

ah

20:39:34 [redmonk]

you could d/l it to that machine, then unplug it and take it home :-D

20:39:41 [Morbus]

heh, heh.

20:39:53 [Morbus]

i'm patient. i've downloaded probably 200gigs off my modem. i'm in no rush ;)

20:40:16 [redmonk]

wow

20:40:22 [redmonk]

i'm never that patient

20:40:27 [Morbus]

heh, heh. i'm a collector.

20:40:43 [Morbus]

i spend lifetimes waiting for that one *thing* to complete my collection.

20:40:52 [Morbus]

three months for a moby track, five months for an animaniacs track on napster, etc.

20:41:05 [AaronSw]

And i'm still waiting for those fonts.

20:41:11 [redmonk]

i still want that moby track

20:41:13 [Morbus]

AaronSw: wait until 10.2.

20:41:17 [AaronSw]

Heh.

20:41:18 [Morbus]

maybe they'll fix my bug then ;)

20:41:25 [Morbus]

we'll try each major upg <G>

20:41:54 [redmonk]

oh oh!

20:42:40 [redmonk]

ah

20:43:01 [redmonk]

* redmonk goes to get library card and cocoa book from library

20:43:42 [Morbus]

btw. did you test an unextraction on this one?

20:43:43 [Morbus]

<G>

20:47:55 [AaronSw]

wow, retail version of omnigraffle

20:50:24 [BenSw]

Hi AaronSw

20:50:33 [AaronSw]

hi BenSw

20:58:00 [AaronSw]

* AaronSw works on omnigraffle descriptions of semplesh for is talk

21:08:53 [Morbus]

ooh.

21:09:14 [Morbus]

just got a comment from "Matthew `mpt' Thomas, Mozilla UI Design component default assignee thing"

21:09:31 [Morbus]

he had written a Free Software / Usability and how it typically sucks.

21:09:40 [Morbus]

showed him AmphetaDesk. "Very nice", and some good suggestions.

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21:24:18 [Morbus]

wendy. long time.

21:25:23 [wendy]

hey. yep. how's things?

21:25:46 [Morbus]

alright. trying to get my head around ProFTPD's horrible documentation

21:27:13 [rik]

* rik hands Morbus a copy of vsftpd

21:27:34 [Morbus]

why do people always try to help by destroying the initial foundation?

21:27:48 [Morbus]

;)

21:28:43 [rik]

well, because you'r etrying to use proftpd.

21:28:56 [Morbus]

what's wrong with proftpd? been using it for about two years now.

21:29:03 [rik]

exactly

21:29:05 [rik]

it's time for a change!

21:29:09 [Morbus]

heh, heh.

21:29:18 [Morbus]

yeah, i should change apache too.

21:29:23 [rik]

yup

21:29:25 [rik]

for thttpd.

21:29:27 [Morbus]

and this linux thing? pshaw! winXP, here I come!

21:29:31 [rik]

nah

21:29:31 [rik]

FreeBSD.

21:29:34 [rik]

get it right man

21:29:38 [rik]

at least become more productive.

21:29:43 [Morbus]

* Morbus sighs

21:29:44 [Morbus]

;)

21:29:59 [rik]

thttpd can handle php, btw.

21:30:13 [Morbus]

so?

21:30:30 [rik]

i thought you like php.

21:30:37 [redmonk]

* redmonk back from fetching lunch

21:30:44 [Morbus]

i like perl. i've been starting to fiddle with php.

21:30:47 [Ash]

it's the wendy bird!

21:37:12 [redmonk]

bs

21:37:14 [redmonk]

oops

21:37:23 [redmonk]

sorry - that was meant for a term window

21:41:27 [jillzilla]

* jillzilla returns from a luau.

21:42:17 [redmonk]

* redmonk eats #spits

21:42:17 [redmonk]

*BURP*

21:42:28 [redmonk]

argh

21:42:33 [redmonk]

stupid irc codes

21:45:39 [rik]

* rik mews at jillzilla

21:46:43 [jillzilla]

rik...

21:47:19 [rik]

jill...

21:47:43 [rik]

* rik realises a correlation, and knows how to get people who re afk on irc to some back, and talk to him

21:53:39 [redmonk]

* redmonk marvels that he ate a whole subway meatball sub without adding any of it to his wardrobe

21:53:57 [rik]

hahaha

21:57:24 [rik]

rar.

21:57:26 [rik]

IBM advert on TV

21:57:30 [rik]

Linux scores a slam-dunk

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22:04:26 [sbp]

* sbp waves

22:04:28 [sbp]

cool Fraiser double bill - one with a Cheers reunion

22:04:55 [deltab]

and the other with a segway

22:05:01 [sbp]

* sbp catches up

22:05:24 [deltab]

partial reunion - I didn't see Diane or Sam

22:05:52 [deltab]

but yeah

22:06:06 [deltab]

nice to see them too

22:06:15 [sbp]

yep... under the pretense that Sam was holding a Sox reunion

22:06:33 [sbp]

it certainly was; especially the Norm-Martin/Daphne-Cliff pairings :-)

22:08:36 [AaronSw]

* AaronSw shows http://www.salon.com/comics/boll/2000/08/24/boll/ to em

22:08:47 [AaronSw]

he's been _sharing_ some _books_ he got from the _library_!

22:09:53 [sbp]

(no Woody either)

22:20:01 [jillzilla]

"The inventor of the system is Melvil Dewey, a plucky 149-year-old who's been dead for 69 years, so his business plan is unclear."

22:20:25 [sbp]

heh, heh

22:20:38 [jillzilla]

"Next: Shower-singing threatens music industry!"

22:21:40 [sbp]

a spurious cartoon, but funny

22:22:03 [sbp]

(whoever borrowed a song from Napster?)

22:24:13 [sbp]

I'm checking out (he's checking out) I'm checking out (checking checking out)

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22:28:14 [AaronSw]

judyB is sitting next to me

22:28:24 [sbp]

wow, neat

22:28:27 [sbp]

* sbp waves

22:28:51 [AaronSw]

she's got an awesome electric wheelchair thing

22:31:08 [AaronSw]

Judy: "give me your favorite reason why acessibility is irrelevant in developing country"

23:04:46 [AaronSw]

* AaronSw chats with wendy about EARL

23:07:13 [AaronSw]

.flight aa 3001

23:11:41 [AaronSw]

sbp, do you have a link to a sample EARL file from that windows app?

23:15:33 [AaronSw]

* AaronSw exchanges key with Hugo

23:15:34 [sbp]

try: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-er-ig/2002Apr/att-0041/01-01-sample

23:18:44 [AaronSw]

thanks

23:21:16 [AaronSw]

4 sigs! http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=vindex&search=0x79F0DF4B

23:21:34 [AaronSw]

guha wanders about

23:23:32 [AaronSw]

Hugo's sig: "Me fail English? That's unpossible. -- Ralph Wiggum"

23:24:17 [redmonk]

heh

23:24:28 [AaronSw]

* AaronSw hears somone at W3C booth play malcolm mp3

23:25:14 [redmonk]

damn

23:25:15 [redmonk]

no

23:25:20 [AaronSw]

<redmonk> #macdev needs to learn the power of the quote deely

23:25:27 [AaronSw]

<AaronSw> #meant to be commented?

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23:26:18 [sbp]

* sbp listens to Red House

23:27:59 [redmonk]

* redmonk listens to The Crystal Method

23:28:05 [redmonk]

* redmonk bops

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23:30:57 [s|a]

hi guys

23:31:02 [jillzilla]

hey, synack.

23:31:02 [redmonk]

'lo

23:32:39 [jillzilla]

hey, rm.

23:34:40 [redmonk]

'lo jillzilla!

23:34:40 [s|a]

hi redmonk

23:34:45 [s|a]

how are you today jillzilla?

23:34:50 [sbp]

wb all

23:35:01 [redmonk]

* redmonk puts on blue Defense Force helmet

23:40:35 [jillzilla]

not too bad. You?

23:40:39 [jillzilla]

redmonk is stylish today.

23:40:49 [AaronSw]

Robotech Defense Force?

23:41:13 [redmonk]

i don't remember - the japanese defense force in the Godzilla movies

23:41:19 [AaronSw]

(RDF)

23:41:38 [s|a]

jillzilla: don't you hate it when you spend a couple of hours late at night trying to solve something, determined not to go to sleep until you solve it. In the end you are beaten and succumb to the sandman. Morning comes, you awake turn on the monitor and solve it in 15 minutes...

23:41:50 [jillzilla]

Aieeee....

23:41:52 [jillzilla]

I've so been there.

23:42:36 [sbp]

the moral of the story is: "go to bed now, dipstick!"

23:42:53 [s|a]

sbp: hehe - too right!

23:42:57 [s|a]

* s|a is stubborn

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23:47:29 [s|a]

wb jillzilla

23:47:39 [jillzilla]

hey!

23:49:53 [sbp]

wb again

23:50:05 [jillzilla]

I want to do something exciting!

23:50:12 [sbp]

sing a song for us!

23:50:15 [jillzilla]

Oooh!

23:50:18 [jillzilla]

That would be lovely!

23:50:41 [jillzilla]

* jillzilla sings quietly, being at work and all.

23:50:47 [sbp]

heh, heh

23:51:03 [jillzilla]

Hmmm, what should I sing...

23:51:29 [sbp]

must... not... shout... out... requests

23:51:35 [jillzilla]

nooooo..do!

23:51:45 [jillzilla]

Hey, there's an option. I could go buy a phone and bother sbp. Hehehehehe

23:52:00 [sbp]

heh, indeed. we could harmonize over the phone

23:52:05 [jillzilla]

Oooh!

23:52:11 [sbp]

well, I could wail, you could harmonize