IRC log of swhack on 2002-05-08

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00:01:09 [jillzilla]
* jillzilla looks for a way to test this code. argh.
00:02:08 [rik]
* rik sits and peers
00:02:36 [sbp]
* sbp finds a toy mouse for rik to bat
00:03:44 [rik]
* rik bats sbp's toes
00:05:59 [Ash]
la la la
00:06:02 [Ash]
* Ash yawns
00:06:09 [Ash]
* Ash kills stupid workstations
00:06:17 [Ash]
i hate windows.
00:06:21 [Ash]
sooooo much.
00:06:24 [Ash]
Die. PLZ.
00:06:41 [jillzilla]
All right. I now have some time to devote to the ripping question.
00:07:47 [Ash]
the ripping question!
00:07:50 [Ash]
uh
00:07:51 [Ash]
ripping?
00:07:57 [Ash]
?
00:08:00 [sbp]
ripping
00:08:24 [sbp]
heh, that wrapped so humourously in mIRC
00:08:28 [jillzilla]
like how to go about ripping this.
00:08:30 [Ash]
I hope you're not discussing that thing that happens during an icky labor/birth process..
00:08:36 [Ash]
Oh, that sort of ripping.
00:08:43 [Ash]
* Ash is in pregnancy land
00:08:44 [jillzilla]
Ash: nooooo.
00:08:51 [jillzilla]
* jillzilla shudders.
00:08:59 [Ash]
jillzilla: a friend of ours had to have 20 stitches
00:09:27 [jillzilla]
A friend of mine couldn't have vaginal sex for at least two years.
00:09:35 [Ash]
woah
00:09:38 [Ash]
that's bad.
00:09:42 [jillzilla]
very bad.
00:09:42 [Ash]
That's really bad.
00:09:46 [jillzilla]
way bad.
00:09:48 [Ash]
why on earth did they let that happen?
00:09:53 [Ash]
* Ash shoots doctors
00:09:55 [jillzilla]
and I haven't seen her in a while, so I don't know if she can now.
00:09:56 [sbp]
shockingly ba... oh, it's over
00:10:07 [jillzilla]
I don't know how it came about.
00:10:27 [syn|ack]
can I ask a RESTful question here?
00:10:35 [Ash]
I'm kind of worried about this time, since we're going to try to do vaginal delivery.
00:10:44 [Ash]
C-sections are so nice in some ways.
00:11:00 [syn|ack]
* syn|ack blinks at the conversation he just stepped into...
00:11:13 [walloper]
<lilo> Hi all. Rejuvenated channel: #debug .... a channel for debugging issues .... gdb, electric fence, valgrind; interpreted and compiled languages .... debugging issues and support .... come by and play if it seems interesting :)
00:11:21 [syn|ack]
hmm...i'll ask again later
00:11:24 [syn|ack]
:)
00:11:27 [sbp]
no, no, ask now!
00:12:04 [syn|ack]
i don't want to detract from the current topic
00:12:10 [jillzilla]
it's over...
00:12:18 [sbp]
ask, damnit!
00:12:18 [syn|ack]
I killed it just like that?
00:12:31 [syn|ack]
ok, let me outline the scenario
00:12:51 [syn|ack]
i have a resource that displays a whole list of packages, possibley 100 or so
00:13:01 [syn|ack]
GET http://somehost.org/packages
00:13:30 [syn|ack]
what i would like to do is have it so that clients can query the list of packages using a regex filter
00:13:40 [syn|ack]
i can't come up with a good way to represent the resource
00:14:01 [sbp]
why not just tack the thing on as a GET query variable?
00:14:05 [syn|ack]
GET http://somehost.org/packages?name_like=<regex>
00:14:08 [sbp]
yeah
00:14:12 [Ash]
hehee
00:14:17 [syn|ack]
i'm not sure if that still looks RESTful though
00:14:20 [Ash]
syn|ack, I think you need to use GRABS
00:14:26 [sbp]
of course it's RESTful
00:14:27 [syn|ack]
to me that looks RPC'ish
00:14:33 [sbp]
no, it's a URI
00:14:33 [syn|ack]
ash, grabs?
00:14:47 [Ash]
ehhehe
00:14:54 [Ash]
sorry syn|ack, old jokes die hard
00:14:55 [sbp]
just because it has a "?" in it shouldn't make a difference
00:14:56 [sbp]
heh
00:14:57 [syn|ack]
sbp: yeah you are correct - I just thought it was more like asking for an operation, as opposed to a resource
00:15:23 [sbp]
nope, you're still requesting a representation of the resource identified by the URI http://somehost.org/packages?name_like=xyz
00:15:25 [syn|ack]
do you think my query example describes the resource well enough...or?
00:15:33 [sbp]
yep, it's fine
00:15:41 [syn|ack]
ok - thank you for you help.
00:15:44 [sbp]
what's more, you can create HTML form interfaces for it, etc.
00:15:46 [sbp]
np
00:15:53 [deltab]
you're saying "packages that match ...", not "run the procedure ..."
00:16:10 [syn|ack]
deltab: yes - that is true
00:16:27 [syn|ack]
I'm quite new to REST so I guess still trying to come to gripes with what/how it really looks
00:16:38 [sbp]
although note Al Gilman's comments about service restrictions (or whatever his term for it is)
00:16:49 [deltab]
hehe, coming to gripes
00:16:51 [sbp]
.google site:lists.w3.org Al Gilman Google www-talk service
00:16:53 [xena]
site:lists.w3.org Al Gilman Google www-talk service: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-archive/2002Mar/0066.html
00:17:24 [syn|ack]
deltab: woops :P grips even
00:17:51 [deltab]
"I've not used winxp yet, but some day I'll come to gripe at it"
00:18:18 [syn|ack]
sbp: I'm looking at it
00:18:31 [sbp]
it's probably the wrong one, since it's at www-archive
00:18:50 [sbp]
I can't check since something's borked my connection
00:19:21 [syn|ack]
the thread is SALV vs VoiceXML ?
00:19:24 [syn|ack]
err SALT
00:19:47 [sbp]
.google site:lists.w3.org Al Gilman Google www-talk -"www-archive" service
00:19:48 [xena]
site:lists.w3.org Al Gilman Google www-talk -"www-archive" service: no match found
00:19:58 [sbp]
.google site:lists.w3.org Al Gilman Google uri -"www-archive" service
00:19:59 [xena]
site:lists.w3.org Al Gilman Google uri -"www-archive" service: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/uri/2001May/0010.html
00:20:19 [sbp]
oh, that's the thread
00:20:41 [syn|ack]
that looks closer to what I need - thanks.
00:20:49 [sbp]
* sbp uses xena as an HTTP proxy...
00:22:43 [syn|ack]
hmmm...my example is doing it on the fly
00:22:58 [syn|ack]
not sure what Aaron means...
00:23:07 [syn|ack]
"he search engine has persistently bound that URL
00:23:07 [syn|ack]
to the resource for my search results."
00:23:12 [syn|ack]
s/he/The/
00:23:24 [jillzilla]
I read that as "passionately bound." Good heavens.
00:23:35 [jillzilla]
I was about to get Very Interested in the semantic web...
00:23:37 [syn|ack]
hehehe
00:24:29 [syn|ack]
hmm...looks it is my lack of understanding of what a resource is
00:24:38 [syn|ack]
"You seem to have
00:24:38 [syn|ack]
fallen to the resource/binding/entity confusion again."
00:24:41 [syn|ack]
that is me..
00:25:00 [syn|ack]
"A URI is bound to a resource (hopefully for all time). The resource
00:25:02 [syn|ack]
identifies a conceptual mapping to an entity (a set of bits, a thing
00:25:02 [syn|ack]
(person, book, etc.), etc.).
00:25:02 [syn|ack]
"
00:27:26 [sbp]
right. whoever said that was on the ball
00:27:34 [sbp]
probably Aaron, from the grammar
00:27:44 [syn|ack]
yes it was aaron
00:27:52 [sbp]
* sbp ^5's himself
00:28:02 [syn|ack]
but i don't get it - think i need to read up on what a 'resource' is some
00:28:10 [sbp]
.google RFC 2396
00:28:13 [xena]
RFC 2396: http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc2396.txt
00:28:18 [syn|ack]
i did picture it persistent
00:28:39 [syn|ack]
but of course to me, generated on the fly does not mean persistent, whereas Aaron is saying it does
00:29:13 [syn|ack]
ahh
00:29:31 [syn|ack]
says it can be abstract
00:29:33 [sbp]
right. well, you must be careful not to confuse the fragility of the mechanism used to create and deliver the representation with the persistence of the resource
00:29:46 [sbp]
it's always abstract, forSome abstract
00:30:28 [syn|ack]
* syn|ack is thinking
00:30:32 [sbp]
actually, that's bad terminology on my behalf
00:30:45 [sbp]
I was thinking of these words:-
00:30:46 [sbp]
[[[
00:30:46 [sbp]
Nothing is directly identifiable using an "http" URI. HTTP only
00:30:47 [sbp]
provides an indirect interface to resources, even for simple things
00:30:51 [sbp]
like files. The notion that we can arbitrarily restrict the nature
00:30:51 [sbp]
of what is behind the interface to some preconceived idea of an
00:30:51 [sbp]
implementation is simply, and provably, incorrect.
00:30:54 [sbp]
]]] - RoyF
00:31:13 [sbp]
- http://www.w3.org/2002/02/mid/97473384-531B-11D6-B8E2-000393753936@apache.org
00:31:33 [syn|ack]
ok, that makes some sense in helping me understand
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swhack!
00:50:01 [sbp]
Hi wmf
00:50:09 [sbp]
Hmm... I didn't know about `python -U`
00:50:10 [AaronSw-HI-US]
argh, this machine keeps crashing
00:50:12 [AaronSw-HI-US]
edd thinks its hardware problems
00:50:14 [AaronSw-HI-US]
it crashes whenever i move it
00:50:24 [AaronSw-HI-US]
I think it's edd's stop energy beam
00:50:28 [sbp]
heh, heh
00:50:53 [wmf]
AaronSw-HI-US: bummer
00:51:03 [sbp]
you ought to get a signed copy of that
00:51:08 [wmf]
so I see Dave is inventing new URI schemes today
00:51:22 [sbp]
the cad! will he stoop any lower?
00:51:45 [jillzilla]
sbp: My python references include the -u option for unbuffered stdout and stderr, but not -U. What'sitdo?
00:51:51 [sbp]
* sbp realises that there's a little bit of hyprocrisy there
00:52:00 [sbp]
-U : Unicode literals: treats '...' literals like u'...'
00:52:26 [jillzilla]
Aha! My reference is from python1.5, which would explain why it doesn't know about that.
00:53:00 [sbp]
wmf: source, please?
00:53:09 [wmf]
scripting news
00:53:15 [sbp]
permalink?
00:53:41 [wmf]
it's like the second item; you don't need a permalink!
00:54:07 [sbp]
a) my HTTP connection is borked b) for the logs
00:54:18 [sbp]
I can't reach scripting.com at all
00:54:34 [sbp]
although yahoo.com does seem to be back. wacky stuff
00:54:51 [wmf]
http://frontier.userland.com/stories/storyReader$10108
00:55:01 [sbp]
many thanks
00:55:06 [sbp]
(can't reach that either... argh!)
00:56:19 [sbp]
stuff won't work in lynx either, so I know it's not just IE being difficult
00:58:13 [Ash]
lol, wmf
00:58:17 [Ash]
that's pretty amusing.
00:58:25 [Ash]
I thought Instant Messaging was so passe.
00:58:29 [Ash]
(According to uncle Dave)
00:58:44 [Ash]
<dwiner> Instant messaging is sucks! INSTANT OUTLINING 4 LYFE!!!1
00:59:49 [sbp]
Grmgprmgpmpgmh
01:00:57 [wmf]
so, uh, I actually have a technical point instead of just random griping, which is that I think the protocol should be on the left of the : and what are the // for again?
01:01:07 [jillzilla]
sbp: did you try rebooting?
01:01:24 [sbp]
the // is so that you can have relative URI-refs to your scheme
01:01:52 [wmf]
sbp: I don't understand; can you give an example?
01:02:26 [sbp]
for example, some corporation has a mirrored FTP and HTTP site at two domains
01:02:51 [sbp]
you can have href="//blargh.org/myPage" in a document at example.org and it'll work across FTP and HTTP, supposedly
01:03:18 [wmf]
but you could just use /myPage for that
01:03:24 [sbp]
huh?
01:04:04 [wmf]
if you want to link to something on the same site with the same protocol, you can use a URL that starts with a /
01:04:06 [deltab]
not at example.org
01:04:26 [sbp]
it's not on the same site. try re-reading
01:04:44 [wmf]
I am dumb; sorry
01:04:45 [wmf]
I get it now
01:04:48 [sbp]
cool
01:05:12 [Ash]
wmf, I think random griping is pretty technical
01:05:14 [Ash]
hehe
01:05:22 [wmf]
yeah, but you're Ash
01:05:32 [Ash]
Especially if you've been dissing IM like forever, and all of a sudden are now saying it's great
01:05:34 [Ash]
* Ash laughs
01:05:48 [Ash]
But what else is new.
01:05:54 [Ash]
Besides my wife locking herself out of the house.
01:05:55 [Ash]
* Ash dies
01:05:59 [Ash]
back in a few
01:06:07 [wmf]
* wmf points at Ash and snickers
01:06:14 [sbp]
heh, heh
01:06:51 [Ash]
* Ash shoots wmf
01:09:53 [sbp]
Jill: yep, I rebooted, but it didn't fix it
01:11:43 [jillzilla]
Hmmm.
01:11:47 [jillzilla]
Did you contact your isp?
01:11:48 [sbp]
Hmm... I should have said "mirrored across protocols"
01:12:06 [sbp]
there's not much point yet - I'll presume that it's a temporary problem for now
01:12:32 [sbp]
it's pretty odd since it's so inconsistent
01:12:51 [jillzilla]
* jillzilla finds out her poetry-going event for tonight is off.
01:12:54 [jillzilla]
Oops.
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01:22:55 [sbp]
if I were to update the FAQ, it'd probably have a section on nick changes...
01:26:07 [sbp]
"but I'm seeking for concealment, all along the lonesome plain"
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02:52:34 [AaronSw-HI-US]
OK, well it seems a little more stable now
02:52:44 [AaronSw-HI-US]
I took out one of the ram simms
02:53:12 [AaronSw-HI-US]
heh, it's 1969
02:55:44 [AaronSw-HI-US]
Rohit thought that the NDA was for PR reasons.
02:55:56 [AaronSw-HI-US]
"Come pay $1500 and find the *secret*!"
03:02:57 [wmf]
you know stuff is going to leak, because Apple can't punish it
03:17:36 [AaronSw-HI-US]
Sheesh.
03:17:38 [AaronSw-HI-US]
this is insane
03:17:48 [AaronSw-HI-US]
Well, I gave it a good thwap and it's back for now
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03:19:58 [wmf]
maybe you've been hit by the Quartz Extreme Death Ray
03:20:16 [AaronSw-HI-US]
Heh heh
03:20:32 [AaronSw-HI-US]
I think it's Edd's stop energy beam
03:20:45 [AaronSw-HI-US]
* AaronSw-HI-US looks for photo
03:21:49 [AaronSw-HI-US]
ah: http://monkeyfist.com/pix/BAZ/stopedd.jpg
03:23:03 [wmf]
looks dangerous
03:23:39 [sbp]
.wn horsepond
03:23:45 [xena]
horsepond defined as:
03:23:46 [xena]
- n : a pond for watering horses
03:24:12 [sbp]
what a word!
03:37:26 [AaronSw-HI-US]
oops out of batteries
03:37:26 [AaronSw-HI-US]
laters
03:54:36 [Ash]
* Ash returns
03:55:05 [Ash]
3 Did you guys hear about the new dual 3GHz G5 powermac at wwdc?
03:55:10 [Ash]
whoops
03:57:27 [Ash]
hehe
03:57:54 [Ash]
lol @ that url
04:07:28 [sbp]
wow, can you say "intertwingled"? I just read an article that referenced a fairly obscure tale that I read some eight years ago
04:08:32 [Ash]
INTERTWINGLE
04:10:36 [sbp]
you forgot the D
04:14:06 [Ash]
No, I didn't.
04:14:09 [Ash]
I'm censoring you!
04:14:10 [Ash]
MUAHAHAHA
04:30:18 [sbp]
Gotta run
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yo yo yo
05:47:33 [jillium]
* jillium waves wearily on her way to the sack.
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zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
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06:34:40 [s|a]
hi folks
07:34:55 [walloper]
<lilo> Services restart test, please bear with us.
07:38:06 [walloper]
<lilo> Test successful....expect the occasional restart while we're debugging for the next day or so. Thanks much.
10:11:20 [s|a]
.google URI RFC
10:11:22 [xena]
URI RFC: http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc2396.txt
10:11:59 [rik]
or http://www.rfc.net/
10:12:46 [s|a]
rik: sorry - that was lazy of me...
10:13:05 [rik]
rfc.net have a reasonale search engine on it, last i checked.
10:14:38 [s|a]
how are you these days anyhow rik?
10:14:52 [rik]
not too bad
10:15:29 [rik]
how are you?
10:24:27 [s|a]
* s|a makes it his life long goal
10:25:07 [s|a]
* s|a thinks you have prolly seen that more then once though...
10:25:45 [s|a]
ahhh, right you are, appendix B
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12:51:44 [pixel]
hey morb.
12:52:47 [Morbus]
hey there
12:53:00 [pixel]
how goes it?
12:53:37 [Morbus]
eh. just got to work.
12:53:39 [Morbus]
in and out.
12:53:47 [pixel]
ah.
12:55:16 [pixel]
I've been reaqding Adam Curry's blog, and for the life of me, I can't figure out how he got so damn rich. being a DJ and MTV veejay cant be THAT profitable.
12:57:04 [Morbus]
heh, heh.
12:57:19 [pixel]
I tried to find a copy of Have you Seen my Baby, but had no luck.
12:57:35 [Morbus]
* Morbus sighs.
12:57:39 [Morbus]
story of my life! ;)
12:57:46 [pixel]
actually, I didn't find any song fro teh Moby album.
12:57:55 [pixel]
I think I'm going to have to buy a copy.
12:58:11 [Morbus]
i have all the songs but that one.
13:13:27 [rik]
* rik fluffles Morbus
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13:35:54 [Morbus]
* Morbus squeals.
13:36:25 [pixel]
like a pig?
13:37:44 [Morbus]
oh yes.
13:38:06 [pixel]
hehe
13:41:59 [Morbus]
sheesh. no spam for me, but spamassassin seems to eat resources.
13:42:10 [Morbus]
i'm worried about throwing it on the real machine.
13:42:14 [Morbus]
must do more testssss, my precious.
13:43:23 [rik]
spamd!
13:43:27 [Morbus]
that's what i'm using.
13:43:44 [Morbus]
i used spamassassin the day before, and spamd yesterday.
13:43:44 [rik]
oh.
13:44:54 [quasi]
Morbus: so the next option should be to roll your own ;)
13:45:03 [Morbus]
heh, heh.
13:45:05 [Morbus]
wheee! <G>
13:45:17 [Morbus]
or at least shift it off the server and to my client machine ;)
13:45:34 [Morbus]
but that covers my mail only - i really want something for the thousand other emails we run.
13:45:47 [Morbus]
spamcop is all well and good, but its not catching everything, of course.
13:46:03 [quasi]
Morbus: something dns based should be nice
13:46:24 [Morbus]
dns stuff i'm finding causes too many fositives and complaints for us.
13:46:31 [Morbus]
i'd rather have a scoring system.
13:46:43 [Morbus]
i was using my own procmail filters for a while, with scoring, etc, but maintaining them just got out of hand.
13:47:04 [pixel]
does spamd work well?
13:47:22 [Morbus]
pixel: i've run it for two days and seen a 100% reduction in spam.
13:47:29 [pixel]
AWESOME.
13:47:39 [quasi]
Morbus: just stick an X-RBL header in there - just about as good as scoring
13:47:42 [Morbus]
pixel: and no false positives :)
13:47:47 [pixel]
how about it's resources?
13:47:53 [Morbus]
hmm?
13:48:04 [pixel]
does spamd suck down the memory/processor?
13:48:21 [pixel]
what process does it use to detect a spam?
13:48:25 [Morbus]
well, my mrtg has been showing much higher activity over night since I added it.
13:48:34 [Morbus]
i've procmailing it through the spamd daemon.
13:48:41 [Morbus]
using the spamc command line util, as per the instructions.
13:49:05 [pixel]
oh. I actually meant how does it know what is spam or not?
13:49:27 [Morbus]
ah. there's a list of rules on the spamassassin.org site.
13:49:32 [Morbus]
then, for each spam, it'll tag why:
13:49:42 [Morbus]
[[[
13:49:43 [Morbus]
SPAM: Content analysis details: (6.3 hits, 5 required)
13:49:43 [Morbus]
SPAM: Hit! (2.7 points) Subject contains lots of white space
13:49:43 [Morbus]
SPAM: Hit! (1.3 points) 'Received:' has 'may be forged' warning
13:49:44 [Morbus]
SPAM: Hit! (0.5 points) Subject has an exclamation mark
13:49:44 [Morbus]
SPAM: Hit! (1.8 points) No MX records for the From: domain
13:49:45 [Morbus]
]]]
13:49:58 [rik]
hahahah
13:50:00 [Morbus]
scroing starts off at 5 - anything over is spam.
13:50:09 [Morbus]
this one had 6.3 hits, and was indeed spam.
13:50:13 [rik]
I like "DETECTED A WHOLE LINE OF SHOUTING"
13:50:17 [rik]
that's great :)
13:50:17 [Morbus]
i've seen some with a score of 27 ;)
13:50:20 [Morbus]
yeah, exactly :)
13:50:28 [rik]
I've had a 240-something...
13:50:34 [rik]
had a virus attached, amongst other things.
13:50:52 [pixel]
wow. that thing does a very nice job.
13:51:04 [rik]
* rik nodnod
13:51:12 [rik]
I'm using it for the whole company here
13:51:13 [Morbus]
yah, pixel, i'd heartily agree.
13:51:30 [Morbus]
if it can't be used serverside due to resources, i'm definitely doing it on my home box
13:51:45 [Morbus]
rik: are you using vipul's, as well?
13:51:58 [rik]
spamassassin checks razor.
13:52:11 [Morbus]
only if you have it installed.
13:52:17 [Morbus]
right?
13:52:40 [rik]
i do have it installed, since i was already using it in my behemoth of a spamassassin/procmail replacement, with web based filtering rules editor
13:52:52 [pixel]
I'm looking through the rules list on the website. this thing is awesome. I'm gonna have to get this thing running.
13:53:28 [Morbus]
* Morbus nods./
13:53:34 [Morbus]
* Morbus nods faster.
13:53:38 [Morbus]
* Morbus nods faster still!
13:53:42 [Morbus]
go, man, go!
13:53:53 [rik]
* rik gets ready to catch Morbus's head, in case it falls off.
13:54:22 [pixel]
intersting. "Contains a PGP-signed message" get -2.095 points.
13:54:27 [Morbus]
[[[
13:54:28 [Morbus]
SPAM: Content analysis details: (5.1 hits, 5 required)
13:54:30 [Morbus]
SPAM: Hit! (-0.0 points) To: contains similar domains at least 10 times
13:54:30 [Morbus]
SPAM: Hit! (2.4 points) To: contains similar usernames at least 10 times
13:54:30 [Morbus]
SPAM: Hit! (0.6 points) From: does not include a real name
13:54:30 [Morbus]
SPAM: Hit! (2.1 points) BODY: FONT Size +2 and up or 3 and up
13:54:30 [Morbus]
]]]
13:54:32 [pixel]
wonder how they decided how many points each item is.
13:54:43 [Morbus]
pixel: its computer determined.
13:54:51 [Morbus]
there's a readme about the process in the distribution.
13:55:04 [pixel]
once again, damn cool.
13:55:07 [rik]
and also you can edit the scores.
14:13:06 [Morbus]
ooOh. MacPerl 5.8 developer release this weekend, per chance.
14:19:44 [walloper]
<lilo> Manual restart of services in process.
14:19:57 [pixel]
they restart things alot here.
14:22:18 [Morbus]
yeah, this is a patchy irc
14:23:51 [quasi]
ick - openCOBOL ... sounds like a horrorstory ;)
14:25:31 [Morbus]
heh, heh.
14:25:36 [Morbus]
openCABAL?
14:26:02 [quasi]
heh
14:30:24 [walloper]
<lilo> Looks like I may have found the problem. Solving it should be interesting, but well.... :)
14:30:44 [walloper]
<lilo> (Problem with services)
15:00:44 [rik]
* rik works out how to add another user to the spamassassin whitelist.
15:01:04 [sbp]
* sbp waves
15:01:41 [rik]
heyho.
15:10:11 [sbp]
well, my connection seems to be better today
15:16:11 [rik]
bonus.
15:16:16 [rik]
* rik decides to actually do some work.
15:17:09 [sbp]
woah!
15:17:23 [sbp]
steady on now rik, there's no need to go *too* nuts
15:17:54 [rik]
heh
15:18:10 [rik]
* rik is up to "configuring postfix" in his section on mail.
15:21:56 [sbp]
* sbp reads some of Bacon's essays
15:42:38 [sbp]
heh! Poe was going to use a parrot instead of a raven... he must be kidding
15:42:51 [Ash]
openCOBOL!
15:42:53 [Ash]
sweet
15:42:56 [sbp]
"""Here, then, immediately arose the idea of a non-reasoning creature capable of speech, and very naturally, a parrot, in the first instance, suggested itself, but was superseded forthwith by a Raven as equally capable of speech, and infinitely more in keeping with the intended tone.""" - http://essayists.8m.com/philosophyofcomposition.html
15:43:21 [sbp]
Quoth the parrot: "nevermore".
15:43:39 [Ash]
"Sqwak!"
15:43:46 [Ash]
dude
15:43:47 [sbp]
sbp has changed the topic to: Quoth the parrot - "nevermore"
15:43:59 [Ash]
he could have had a parrot with foul language in there
15:44:00 [Ash]
that would rock
15:44:05 [sbp]
heh, heh
15:44:06 [Ash]
it would have been so much better
15:44:08 [Ash]
hehe
15:48:41 [deltab]
Quoth the raven, "Eat my shorts!"
15:48:57 [deltab]
:-)
15:49:29 [rik]
:)
15:49:58 [Ash]
hehe
16:55:11 [Ash]
Ash has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out))
16:56:21 [sbp]
Gotta run
16:59:26 [jillzilla]
<deltab> Quoth the raven, "Eat my shorts!"
16:59:27 [jillzilla]
hee
17:09:56 [rik]
* rik pounces on jillzilla
17:10:00 [jillzilla]
rowr.
17:10:03 [jillzilla]
* jillzilla pets rik.
17:10:11 [rik]
rowr too
17:10:24 [jillzilla]
* jillzilla goes to get a bit of breakfast.
17:10:31 [rik]
heh
17:11:13 [jillzilla]
it's 10:11
17:11:28 [rik]
* rik nods
17:22:16 [Morbus]
must be logged:
17:22:17 [Morbus]
[[[
17:22:17 [Morbus]
[13:22] <choric> jillzilla: *gives you puppy-dog eyes*
17:22:17 [Morbus]
[13:22] <Morbus> insulting custard, perhaps?
17:22:19 [Morbus]
[13:22] <Morbus> you insulting custard! you taunting tapioca!
17:22:19 [Morbus]
[13:22] * jillzilla throws a stick for choric to chase.
17:22:19 [Morbus]
[13:22] <jillzilla> TAUNTING TAPIOCA!
17:22:19 [Morbus]
[13:22] <choric> hehe.
17:22:20 [Morbus]
[13:22] <Morbus> i shall spoon you up my ASS before I kneel to your delights!
17:22:20 [Morbus]
]]]]
17:22:26 [Morbus]
[[[
17:22:26 [Morbus]
[13:22] * jillzilla admires Morbus again.
17:22:27 [Morbus]
[13:22] * choric refuses to lower himself to pretending to be a pet on IRC. That's just _weird_, y'know?
17:22:28 [Morbus]
[13:22] * choric shuffles and looks uncomfortable. :)
17:22:30 [Morbus]
[13:22] <jillzilla> Yeah, I don't know how *anyone* can do *that*.
17:22:32 [Morbus]
]]]]
17:26:04 [AaronSw-HI-US]
ask me bout dinner
17:26:28 [Morbus]
AaronSw-HI-US, tell me about your dinner.
17:28:28 [redmonk]
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17:28:31 [sbp]
* sbp waves
17:28:47 [redmonk]
* redmonk waves
17:28:50 [deus_x]
* deus_x wakes up, yawns, stretches.
17:29:39 [sbp]
HI rm
17:29:47 [sbp]
you just missed the party, apparently
17:29:47 [redmonk]
* redmonk falls out - deus_x speaks!
17:29:56 [redmonk]
so it seems
17:29:58 [deus_x]
Sometimes :) hehe.
17:30:11 [redmonk]
how's it hanging, orchard?
17:30:13 [jillzilla]
* jillzilla waves.
17:30:17 [deus_x]
I think I might need to change settings on dircproxy so my ghost doesn't just lay around all day
17:30:32 [redmonk]
jill returns in stomping reptilian glory!!
17:30:46 [sbp]
deus: just /dircproxy quit when you're done
17:30:46 [redmonk]
jill!!!!
17:30:51 [deus_x]
Doing pretty well, though dingoes ate my website.
17:30:58 [jillzilla]
redmoooonk!
17:31:13 [jillzilla]
* jillzilla stomps off to get breakfast. For real this time.
17:31:25 [redmonk]
* redmonk eats bagel and cream cheese
17:32:18 [Morbus]
deus_x!
17:32:21 [Morbus]
redmonk!
17:32:24 [Morbus]
countrymen!
17:32:34 [sbp]
* sbp plays slide
17:32:37 [sbp]
Gotta run
17:32:42 [Morbus]
* Morbus plays bass
17:32:44 [redmonk]
Morbus!!
17:32:52 [redmonk]
* redmonk plays radio
17:32:56 [deus_x]
Morbus!
17:33:03 [Morbus]
radio!? bah! ampheta! <G>
17:33:19 [deus_x]
* deus_x plays the pan flute.
17:33:40 [redmonk]
you fix it yet?
17:33:42 [Morbus]
* Morbus feeds his goat.
17:33:50 [redmonk]
don't talk to mee of ampheta, you pusher. ;-)
17:34:07 [Morbus]
heheheh.
17:35:03 [deus_x]
Morbus: Oh, hey, your OS X / Apache articles were helpful to me yesterday, since I was lazy :)
17:35:21 [deus_x]
Wanted to get php, mod_perl, & etc running and forgot where things were.
17:35:22 [Morbus]
oh yeah? cool :) ... what were ya doing?
17:35:24 [Morbus]
ah.
17:36:33 [deus_x]
Just mostly getting it all working on my new OS X desktop at work so I can experiment on torturing our app platform in privacy
17:36:50 [deus_x]
I don't want the screams to leave my desk.
17:37:06 [Morbus]
heh, heh.
17:37:57 [deus_x]
So I was like, "Hmm, I wonder how to turn this stuff on?" Then I was like, "Hey, I know a guy..."
17:38:08 [Morbus]
yay! ;)
17:38:13 [Morbus]
i'm a "guy"!
17:38:23 [deus_x]
Who's known, even.
17:38:30 [Morbus]
i was called an "os x expert" a few days ago in MacNN or something.
17:38:32 [redmonk]
note that he did not say what *kind* of guy
17:38:51 [deus_x]
Well, you know... *that* kind.
17:39:04 [Morbus]
wink, wink
17:39:18 [deus_x]
A wink's as good as a nod to a blind bat.
17:39:49 [redmonk]
deus_x is full of philosophisms this morning
17:40:12 [deus_x]
It's just gas, no worries.
17:40:25 [Ash]
Ash (~amathews@166.70.45.199) has joined #swhack
17:40:37 [Morbus]
argh. spamassassin eats too much resources on a 1000 email server.
17:40:42 [redmonk]
Ash!?@!?!
17:41:01 [redmonk]
1000 email? what does that mean?
17:41:08 [Morbus]
1000 email accounts.
17:41:13 [redmonk]
ah
17:41:56 [Ash]
RM
17:41:58 [Ash]
What's up?
17:42:00 [Ash]
MORBAS
17:42:08 [Ash]
Morbus: byte compile the script, baby
17:42:31 [redmonk]
* redmonk upgrades to iPhoto 1.1.1
17:42:44 [redmonk]
new, with Braightness and Contrast Power!
17:42:46 [redmonk]
ugh
17:42:48 [Morbus]
they released iPhoto 1.1? i thought it was out and then they yanked it.
17:42:51 [redmonk]
Brightness
17:44:07 [Ash]
* Ash waves his elite beta copy of iPhoto 2.0
17:44:22 [redmonk]
what!?!
17:44:37 [pixel]
* pixel waves his &$^(&
17:44:43 [redmonk]
* redmonk grovels before H4XX0R ASH
17:44:54 [redmonk]
lol
17:45:06 [redmonk]
put that away, pixel, this is a fmailyy channel
17:45:11 [redmonk]
er, family
17:45:13 [pixel]
hehe
17:45:16 [Morbus]
yeah, but its Fox Family, so we're all set ;)
17:45:20 [redmonk]
damn fingers
17:45:41 [sbp]
* sbp waves again
17:45:52 [redmonk]
redmonk has changed the topic to: <Morbus> yeah, but its Fox Family, so we're all set ;)
17:46:11 [redmonk]
* redmonk wonders why sbp needs attention
17:46:57 [jillzilla]
* jillzilla drops fluttery confetti on sbp.
17:47:14 [Morbus]
* Morbus blows a noise maker.
17:47:19 [Morbus]
* Morbus kicks jillzilla
17:47:21 [sbp]
just returned - working on playing one handed whilst tweaking the tone
17:47:23 [jillzilla]
OW!
17:47:29 [Morbus]
* Morbus points at the noisemaker.
17:47:31 [Morbus]
wheee!
17:47:33 [jillzilla]
* jillzilla blushes.
17:47:39 [jillzilla]
is ash here?
17:47:41 [Morbus]
man, that worked perfectly.
17:47:47 [sbp]
that's what poor people sans wah-wah have to do
17:47:54 [Ash]
yes
17:47:56 [Ash]
i'm here!
17:47:56 [Ash]
heh
17:48:03 [jillzilla]
jillzilla has changed the topic to: Contribute to the sbp wah-wah fund!
17:48:10 [jillzilla]
Ash: dude, you gotta help me.
17:48:22 [jillzilla]
How do I turn a cd into mp3s?
17:48:22 [Ash]
dudew!
17:48:25 [Ash]
oh
17:48:27 [Ash]
jillzilla
17:48:30 [Ash]
it's easy!
17:48:36 [redmonk]
iTunes!!
17:48:39 [jillzilla]
Yes, I'm sure, but I don't yet know how.
17:48:42 [Ash]
you need rpms for
17:48:45 [Ash]
bladeenc
17:48:48 [Ash]
and cdparanoia
17:48:53 [Ash]
which are available at rpmfind.net
17:48:54 [jillzilla]
I grovel before you! Else Morbus will kick my ass!
17:49:06 [Ash]
and you already have grip, right?
17:49:08 [redmonk]
oh oh!! Moby?
17:49:09 [deus_x]
Wasn't it the noisemaker?
17:49:11 [jillzilla]
I have grip.
17:49:25 [Ash]
jillzilla: Then you're all set.
17:49:38 [redmonk]
redmonk has changed the topic to: Jillzilla, now with Kung-fu Grip!!
17:49:38 [Ash]
Just install bladeenc and cdparanoia, and configure grip there in the tabs
17:49:39 [jillzilla]
* jillzilla searches rpmfind.
17:49:54 [Ash]
make sure to configure mp3 encoding to > 192Kb/s
17:50:15 [jillzilla]
Cool.
17:50:23 [jillzilla]
And while we're at it, how do I get streaming audio in linux?
17:50:38 [pixel]
ash: can you reeealllly tell a difference between 160 and 192?
17:50:58 [sbp]
MP3: ew! mushy bass!
17:51:01 [jillzilla]
Oh, very very stupid linux question, while I'm being Stupid today: How do I tell if I have glibc or the other thing?
17:51:12 [Ash]
jillzilla: just get xmms, it will play streaming mp3 audio
17:51:16 [jillzilla]
sbp: shhhh. morbus will never notice.
17:51:16 [Ash]
and mp3s, for that matter
17:51:23 [Ash]
pixel: On my stereo, the bass is muddy at 160
17:51:25 [jillzilla]
woo.
17:51:31 [Ash]
but quite good at 192
17:51:31 [jillzilla]
What about watching DVDs?
17:51:46 [jillzilla]
* jillzilla is multimedia challenged.
17:51:52 [Ash]
I've used xine to watch dvd's, but that was on freebsd
17:51:59 [Ash]
I'm not sure what's available in linux land
17:52:00 [jillzilla]
I bet it works on openbsd.
17:52:09 [Ash]
beats me
17:52:20 [Ash]
it and libdvdcss were in the freebsd ports tree so it was easy
17:53:33 [jillzilla]
hmmm, I wonder if cdparanoia can pull a good copy of a CD of mine that got scratched all to hell.
17:55:13 [sbp]
note to self: don't lend CDs to Jill
17:55:29 [jillzilla]
I no longer have the offending CD player.
17:55:43 [sbp]
heh, actually I know what you mean: I used to have one like that
17:57:41 [Ash]
jillzilla: Most likely it can, I've gotten some really good rips with cdparanoia (but it takes a loooong time if you tell it to retry a lot)
17:57:54 [jillzilla]
I can let it run overnight.
17:58:54 [jillzilla]
hmm, xmms is already installed.
17:59:06 [sbp]
Gotta run
17:59:13 [jillzilla]
Later, sbp.
17:59:20 [redmonk]
we'll miss you
17:59:23 [redmonk]
heh
17:59:26 [jillzilla]
* jillzilla pines.
17:59:38 [redmonk]
* redmonk spruces
17:59:43 [jillzilla]
* jillzilla oaks.
18:00:06 [redmonk]
hey -mine at least had a double meaning
18:00:10 [redmonk]
;-)
18:00:19 [jillzilla]
mine was sillier.
18:00:22 [jillzilla]
HA!
18:00:32 [redmonk]
* redmonk grumbles. Foiled again.
18:00:54 [pixel]
how many peolpe here have a mac running OSX, and what kind of mac is it?
18:01:38 [redmonk]
TiBook 667, OS X 10.1.4
18:03:17 [pixel]
I didn't realize the new iMac was so cheap.
18:03:40 [Morbus]
* Morbus raises hand.
18:03:46 [deus_x]
I have an iBook 600mhz G3, OS X
18:03:48 [Morbus]
powermac g4, dual 450. os 10.1
18:04:08 [redmonk]
mmm, ddual.
18:04:08 [Morbus]
er, dual 400 rather
18:04:21 [redmonk]
* redmonk pines for 2x1000 g4
18:04:24 [Morbus]
me selling netslaves paid for that puppy, and some other toys ;
18:04:24 [Morbus]
)
18:04:56 [pixel]
hehe
18:05:03 [deus_x]
I am sad that <echo-effect>Quartz Extreme!</echo-effect> will not help me and my iBook.
18:05:17 [Morbus]
hehehhe.
18:05:20 [Morbus]
dun dun dunnnNNNn!
18:05:25 [redmonk]
yeah, but multithreading will
18:05:36 [deus_x]
This is true.
18:06:05 [deus_x]
Though I may just walk zombie-like to the computer store and get a TiBook, if I can find the cash
18:06:11 [Morbus]
mMM. tibOOok.
18:06:24 [deus_x]
Almost as tasty as branes.
18:06:29 [Ash]
BRAINSSSSSSSS
18:06:33 [Morbus]
heheh.
18:06:35 [Morbus]
hey! fresh brains!
18:06:43 [Morbus]
you mean the movie lied?!
18:06:48 [Morbus]
yah, they're all messed up.
18:06:52 [Morbus]
* Morbus goes on zombie quote-a-thon
18:08:17 [jillzilla]
I've still never seen the third film in the night of the living dead series.
18:08:35 [Ash]
mmmmmm
18:08:36 [Morbus]
you've still never sent me that mp3 file, either.
18:08:37 [Ash]
walnut crusted lemon trout
18:10:04 [jillzilla]
This is cool. The thing seems to be ripping.
18:10:15 [jillzilla]
However, I have no idea what it's doing with the tracks it rips.
18:10:34 [jillzilla]
* jillzilla looks at the configuration.
18:11:00 [Ash]
jillzilla: It should rip to wav then convert to mp3
18:11:12 [Morbus]
* Morbus is stunned.
18:11:15 [jillzilla]
Great. I'm trying to figure out where it is putting the files.
18:16:08 [deus_x]
deus_x has quit ("Leaving IRC - dircproxy 1.0.3")
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deus_x (~deusx@bgp995433bgs.nanarb01.mi.comcast.net) has joined #swhack
18:16:46 [jillzilla]
Cool, it worked!
18:16:51 [jillzilla]
* jillzilla looks for the moby cd.
18:17:33 [Ash]
jillzilla: try ~/mp3
18:17:33 [Ash]
hehe
18:17:47 [jillzilla]
I found that in the configuration.
18:19:46 [pixel]
@http://www.newarchitectmag.com/documents/s=2453/new1020218556549/index.html
18:20:29 [pixel]
@ http://www.newarchitectmag.com/documents/s=2453/new1020218556549/index.html
18:21:19 [chumpy]
A: http://www.newarchitectmag.com/documents/s=2453/new1020218556549/index.html from pixel
18:21:25 [Ash]
haha
18:21:37 [pixel]
A:| The Languages of the Semantic Web
18:21:53 [chumpy]
titled item A
18:22:29 [Ash]
http://www.bbspot.com/News/2002/05/google.html
18:22:30 [Ash]
er
18:22:39 [Ash]
@ http://www.bbspot.com/News/2002/05/google.html
18:22:46 [Ash]
The most popular search items on the new service are "great sex", with
18:22:48 [Ash]
oops
18:23:05 [chumpy]
B: http://www.bbspot.com/News/2002/05/google.html from Ash
18:23:21 [jillzilla]
Hey, Morbus, how do you want me to send you this track?
18:23:25 [Ash]
B::The most popular search items on the new service are "great sex", with "episodes of Invader Zim" coming in a close second.
18:23:33 [Ash]
jillzilla, i'm afraid you need to send it to me too
18:23:34 [Ash]
hehe
18:23:37 [Ash]
>:-)
18:23:41 [chumpy]
commented item B
18:24:12 [Morbus]
jillzilla: you can ftp it into ftp.disobey.com
18:24:22 [jillzilla]
It's still doing its thing.
18:26:18 [redmonk]
jillzilla: me three!!
18:26:23 [jillzilla]
Ash: how?
18:26:26 [jillzilla]
redmonk: how?
18:26:34 [jillzilla]
i.e. which method should I use?
18:26:36 [Ash]
jillzilla: scp?
18:26:38 [redmonk]
jill - do you have a server somewhere?
18:26:49 [jillzilla]
Hmmm...Yeah, I could slap it onto a website.
18:26:56 [jillzilla]
it's kind of a pita, though.
18:26:58 [redmonk]
prolly best all around?
18:27:02 [redmonk]
oh
18:27:05 [redmonk]
email?
18:27:16 [jillzilla]
why does everyone want this one track?
18:27:27 [redmonk]
well, i'd rather have the whole thing
18:27:27 [pixel]
Could you deliver it via carrier pidgeon? I'm on a deserted island.
18:27:29 [redmonk]
;-)
18:27:41 [redmonk]
* redmonk was just going to suggest carrier pigeon
18:27:42 [pixel]
what CD is it?
18:27:42 [jillzilla]
oh.
18:27:44 [Ash]
jillzilla: One track?!?? We all wanted the whole album!
18:27:45 [Ash]
hehe
18:27:48 [jillzilla]
Moby - self-titled.
18:27:54 [pixel]
AHHHHHH! I want it too!
18:27:57 [Ash]
with your copious google bandwidth you should be able to send it in like 5s!
18:27:58 [redmonk]
mmmmmmmmm, Moby
18:28:02 [jillzilla]
* jillzilla laughs.
18:28:07 [jillzilla]
I'll see what I can do.
18:28:12 [pixel]
how about this. send it to me, I'll put it in a central local for everyone.
18:28:14 [Ash]
just make a tar of the album
18:28:14 [redmonk]
http://www.google.com/jillsWarez/Moby
18:28:47 [pixel]
hehe
18:29:08 [pixel]
you have any other Moby? =)
18:29:17 [Morbus]
hehe. i have three other CDs of Moby now.
18:29:18 [jillzilla]
I have Play, but it's packed.
18:29:22 [Morbus]
just waiting on this one jillzilla track.
18:29:25 [Morbus]
for my fourth.
18:29:45 [jillzilla]
I will ftp the track I ripped for Morbus to disobey.com.
18:29:58 [Morbus]
phbbttttt
18:29:59 [Morbus]
:)
18:30:01 [Morbus]
yah.
18:30:02 [Morbus]
thanks :)
18:30:09 [redmonk]
* redmonk loads rocket launcher
18:30:18 [jillzilla]
I'm ripping! I'm ripping!
18:30:21 [redmonk]
how can he listen, if he's DEAD!
18:31:36 [redmonk]
*fwoooosh!*
18:31:39 [redmonk]
*splutch*
18:31:39 [redmonk]
btw - we went to South Mountain overlooking Phoenix on Monday
18:31:39 [redmonk]
pics are one redmonk.net
18:31:39 [redmonk]
er, on
18:31:43 [Morbus]
* Morbus respawns
18:31:43 [jillzilla]
Morbus, duck!
18:32:00 [redmonk]
http://media.redmonk.net/collections/southMountainSunset/
18:32:13 [jillzilla]
Morbus: check out my upload.
18:32:30 [redmonk]
what an invitation!
18:32:48 [redmonk]
* redmonk ducks
18:32:57 [Morbus]
my ear is bleeding.
18:33:01 [Morbus]
* Morbus scrratches head.
18:33:25 [jillzilla]
listen to the words. It's such a charming song.
18:34:05 [pixel]
gege
18:35:48 [quasi]
"I've only once before had to remove my shoes before going inside, and that was in a mosque and the sermon was shorter" ;)
18:36:51 [redmonk]
i've been after these guys for years!!!
18:37:06 [pixel]
I've had the CD for years.
18:37:51 [pixel]
"Radio Orchid" is excellent. as well as "Every Generation Got It's Own Disease"
18:37:59 [pixel]
looks like I didn't rip the whole CD.
18:38:09 [redmonk]
yeah, i heard EGGIOD in germany, and been looking ever since
18:38:18 [pixel]
I can if you want. probably did it before I got the big fat drive =)
18:38:26 [redmonk]
sure
18:38:30 [redmonk]
would be awesome
18:39:00 [pixel]
k.
18:39:06 [pixel]
I'll try to do it tonight.
18:39:19 [redmonk]
sweet
18:39:31 [redmonk]
<butthead>i... love you</butthead>
18:40:11 [pixel]
hehe
18:42:01 [redmonk]
"and I've got mine, Babe, help me please!"
18:51:58 [Morbus]
20,000 bytes is 20k right?
18:52:01 [Morbus]
man, i'm so embarrased.
18:52:14 [jillzilla]
well, sorta.
18:52:21 [Morbus]
yeah, close enough to what i mean, though.
18:52:28 [jillzilla]
20480, but close enough.
18:55:59 [Morbus]
argh.
18:56:06 [Morbus]
i'm relally struggling to get spamassassin running without being a hog.
18:56:19 [Morbus]
its doubled my system load on the 1000 email server
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19:03:25 [redmonk]
ah
19:03:28 [redmonk]
ok
19:03:33 [redmonk]
;-)
19:05:23 [sbp]
* sbp waves
19:05:35 [jillzilla]
sbp!
19:06:35 [sbp]
Hi
19:06:56 [sbp]
that's funny: I typed "Hi" the first time and it brought up a PMSG window to Chumpy
19:07:11 [jillzilla]
That'll teach you.
19:07:28 [sbp]
* sbp reviews bits of the log
19:09:11 [sbp]
heh @ "Find anything"
19:09:29 [quasi]
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19:09:56 [pixel]
got a question. I have a div with other divs in it. the main div has an overflow value of scroll, and a height of 400. if there are not enough divs to fill the main div, I would like the main div to shrink to the appropriate size, but never get larger than the 400px that it's set to. any ideas?
19:10:07 [sbp]
argh!
19:10:09 [Morbus]
use tables.
19:10:12 [Morbus]
* Morbus ducks
19:10:24 [pixel]
ha ha very funny.
19:10:29 [sbp]
what is ChanServ up to these days...
19:10:41 [jillzilla]
* jillzilla gives voice to sbp.
19:11:11 [Morbus]
* Morbus gives voice to sbp's nightmares.
19:11:36 [redmonk]
Morbus *is* the collective Swhack nightmare
19:11:38 [sbp]
I had some pretty odd dreams last night
19:11:42 [pixel]
* pixel gives money to charity, hehe
19:11:43 [jillzilla]
Do tell!
19:11:43 [Morbus]
yay!
19:11:48 [Morbus]
i don't remember my dreams.
19:11:52 [Morbus]
not enough sleep
19:11:55 [sbp]
heh
19:12:03 [jillzilla]
I have phases where I remember and phases where I don't.
19:12:28 [jillzilla]
If I go too long without remembering it seems to dry up something in my head, and only dreams restores that.
19:12:31 [jillzilla]
whatever it is.
19:13:19 [pixel]
dehydrated brains.
19:13:34 [redmonk]
BRAINSSSSSS
19:13:47 [sbp]
ugh, now you've started zombie-redmonk off again
19:13:56 [pixel]
hehe
19:13:56 [jillzilla]
oh dear.
19:14:06 [sbp]
Bart: Dad, you've killed the zombie-Flanders!
19:14:09 [sbp]
Homer: He was a zombie?
19:14:14 [jillzilla]
* jillzilla laughs.
19:14:20 [jillzilla]
With Flanders, how would one know?
19:14:42 [redmonk]
* redmonk ambles after sbp, "BRAINSSSSSSSS", pauses, and ambles after jillzilla
19:14:53 [sbp]
heh, heh
19:14:56 [jillzilla]
* jillzilla knows she has nothing to fear.
19:15:19 [jillzilla]
both of her brain cells are in the mental equivalent of a chastity belt.
19:15:39 [redmonk]
* redmonk leaves Swhack, ambles over to #macdev in search of BRAINSSSSSSSS
19:15:47 [jillzilla]
good luck there.
19:16:03 [pixel]
remember. they ARE *MAC* developers.
19:16:05 [pixel]
* pixel ducks.
19:16:15 [jillzilla]
* jillzilla notes that "chastity" isn't a Morbus trigger.
19:16:17 [redmonk]
* redmonk decides to eat pixel anyway
19:16:37 [sbp]
[[[
19:16:38 [sbp]
<sbp> you expect to find food in a channel whose topic includes "Fuckin, Kick Ass"? bwahahaha!
19:16:41 [sbp]
]]] - #macdev
19:17:05 [redmonk]
LOL
19:17:12 [redmonk]
did not realize at first that was you, sbp
19:17:14 [redmonk]
lol
19:17:20 [jillzilla]
yaaay, my neck is getting better. (readers may remember that I had injured a neck muscle sneezing too hard)
19:19:27 [sbp]
\topic Jillzilla: now with better-neck muscle!!!
19:19:44 [jillzilla]
rowr.
19:20:23 [redmonk]
yay, jill. i know how that feels
19:20:25 [jillzilla]
* jillzilla does disgusting things with nasal spray.
19:20:33 [jillzilla]
I'm such a hypochondriac at this time of year.
19:20:41 [redmonk]
* redmonk is still getting over an autoaccident 1.5 yrs ago
19:20:55 [jillzilla]
ugh. when I was doing massage I worked with people with whiplash.
19:20:56 [sbp]
$ grep -i jill.*rowr * | wc
19:21:09 [sbp]
15 58 700
19:21:16 [jillzilla]
* jillzilla beams.
19:21:33 [jillzilla]
I had a client who had had six auto accidents.
19:21:54 [jillzilla]
We did trigger point work every week for something like ten weeks. It was incredible.
19:22:11 [redmonk]
yeah, i've been goig to massage for a few weeks now
19:22:31 [jillzilla]
does the massage therapist do specific point work that affects your injured areas?
19:22:40 [redmonk]
she does trigger work on me with a tbar - it's (ouch ouch ocuch!) good stuff
19:22:46 [jillzilla]
Ooooh.
19:22:53 [jillzilla]
I still use the tbar on myself from time to time.
19:22:57 [sbp]
oqw
19:22:58 [sbp]
s/q//
19:23:11 [redmonk]
yeah, my back has a funky little curve in it - v ery slight - from imbalanced mucles
19:23:25 [jillzilla]
* jillzilla gets an urge to take her table to England and give sbp a massage.
19:23:41 [jillzilla]
a scolios? (e.g. a side-to-side curve?)
19:23:47 [jillzilla]
I can spell.
19:23:47 [redmonk]
she's trained in neuro-muscular massage
19:23:49 [jillzilla]
Really I can.
19:23:51 [redmonk]
yeah
19:24:07 [jillzilla]
Yes, if she knows trigger point work, she would be. NMT is good stuff.
19:24:16 [jillzilla]
I learned it too.
19:24:29 [redmonk]
it's interesting - right after the accident i went to a chiropracter for 6 mos
19:24:37 [redmonk]
he was excellent - very well-rounded
19:24:55 [redmonk]
he knew a lot of orthoped stuff, trigger oint stuff, and the usual chiro
19:25:10 [redmonk]
not just a back-cracker
19:25:23 [jillzilla]
* jillzilla nods. A bad chiropractor is a menace. But you had a good one.
19:25:56 [sbp]
wow, I had mega-lag
19:25:58 [sbp]
the "ow" was at the six auto-accidents, not the tbar...
19:26:47 [jillzilla]
Yeah, he had a rough time of it. Lots of the weirder whiplash symptoms, like memory difficulties.
19:26:54 [sbp]
so now, I have to ask: what's a tbar?
19:27:08 [redmonk]
it's a small thing shaped like a "t"
19:27:26 [jillzilla]
with a rubber nubby on the bottom.
19:27:28 [redmonk]
with a rubber end on it - you use it to reach small well-defined points around joints
19:27:50 [jillzilla]
Basically it's a mechanical thumb. It saves the massage therapist's thumbs in the intense point work.
19:28:06 [redmonk]
to apply ascemic(sp?) compression to small areas of muscle
19:28:09 [jillzilla]
It can also go deeper than a thumb, but that is seldom a good thing.
19:28:10 [sbp]
"tbar association of America: get rubby with your rubber nubby!"
19:28:18 [jillzilla]
eschemic.
19:28:19 [redmonk]
lol
19:28:21 [redmonk]
ah
19:28:23 [redmonk]
thx
19:28:30 [jillzilla]
* jillzilla is impressed that redmonk's MT knows the word.
19:28:45 [redmonk]
oh yes. she's a smartie
19:28:45 [jillzilla]
cool.
19:28:45 [sbp]
wow, swhack gets the info
19:29:05 [sbp]
.wn eschemic
19:29:10 [jillzilla]
swhack *is* the info.
19:29:17 [redmonk]
my chiropractor told me about it (as he was doing it) and my MT was impressed that *I* knew the word ;-)
19:29:23 [jillzilla]
* jillzilla giggles.
19:29:31 [redmonk]
i ask lots of questions during treatment
19:29:51 [sbp]
"what the fuck are you doing?!"
19:29:55 [redmonk]
heh. kind of
19:30:14 [jillzilla]
eschemic means that it constricts blood flow to the area. which sounds like a bad thing, but in trigger points is followed by a lot of changes in the area. And since the area was clenched up, that's a good thing.
19:30:23 [redmonk]
yep.
19:30:24 [jillzilla]
s/constricts/restricts/
19:30:39 [sbp]
interesting
19:30:52 [redmonk]
it forces blood *out* that is trapped in there, then lets new blood in to cleanse the mucle tissues, as i understand it
19:30:53 [jillzilla]
The coolest thing about trigger points is pressing in one spot and having the person say, "I feel that in <otherspot>."
19:31:05 [redmonk]
been there done that
19:31:09 [sbp]
I think I'd be like that, since I am at the dentists ("Mmmkay what are you doing now?")
19:31:30 [sbp]
(rather: "Mamagm, whamm armmm ymmm doimmm nommm?")
19:31:36 [jillzilla]
It's funny how different treatment massage and relaxation massage are.
19:31:41 [pixel]
goin home. see everyone tomorrow
19:31:46 [sbp]
c'ya pixel
19:31:52 [redmonk]
i usually hurt after treatment ;-)
19:31:53 [jillzilla]
When I give treatment massage, I want the client to ask me questions and to understand what's going on.
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19:32:12 [jillzilla]
In relaxation massage, someone asking questions usually means that they are nervous and not relaxing.
19:32:13 [redmonk]
yeah
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error: [Errno socket error] (110, 'Connection timed out')
19:32:50 [jillzilla]
I was also dazzled by hydrotherapy. It's amazing what one can do with hot and cold water.
19:32:54 [sbp]
relaxation?
19:33:06 [redmonk]
my MT also sends me out with a couple bottles of water
19:33:08 [jillzilla]
sbp: care to supply a verb?
19:33:27 [redmonk]
yeah, i almost went after the accident, but it was too exp.
19:33:38 [sbp]
what is $1?
19:33:41 [jillzilla]
redmonk: I am actually skeptical of the "drink lots of water after massage" thing.
19:33:50 [jillzilla]
sbp: um...huh?
19:33:57 [sbp]
nevermind
19:34:15 [redmonk]
jill: well, it doen't hurt to do it ;-)
19:34:22 [jillzilla]
Agreed. :-)
19:34:23 [redmonk]
besides, we're in Arizona - you dry out fast here
19:34:40 [jillzilla]
I was in Colorado. Drinking water is generally good advice in dry places. :-)
19:34:43 [redmonk]
it may not be as much an issue in other parts of the country
19:34:50 [jillzilla]
I just don't think the "after massage" bit has much to do with it.
19:34:56 [redmonk]
perhaps not
19:35:09 [sbp]
unless you sweat a lot
19:35:14 [redmonk]
but who am i to argue with free water? ;-)
19:35:34 [jillzilla]
yep, I'm all for that.
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19:40:10 [sbp]
Hmm... the W3C server has gone down, leaving TimBL in the lurch
19:40:50 [jillzilla]
I'm thinking now of drugs often taken for headaches. They not only have painkillers, but they advise to take the pills with lots of water. And the pills have caffeine. So it'll take care of dehydration and caffeine withdrawal headaches as well as other kinds.
19:40:54 [jillzilla]
I think that's very clever.
19:43:03 [redmonk]
indeed
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19:52:00 [Ash]
WELL WELL WELL
19:52:04 [Ash]
look who has a laptop now
19:52:09 [Ash]
* Ash looks at himself
19:52:09 [AaronSw-HI-US]
Howdy
19:52:10 [Ash]
IT'S ME
19:52:12 [Ash]
hehe
19:52:13 [sbp]
heh
19:52:17 [redmonk]
howdy aaron
19:52:23 [Ash]
Of course, it's a crappy laptop, but whatever.
19:52:26 [Ash]
redmonk: Hi!
19:52:34 [AaronSw-HI-US]
timbl's using a mac. its really cool
19:52:34 [redmonk]
hi ash
19:52:39 [redmonk]
muahahaha
19:52:49 [Ash]
redmonk: My name is aaron too, so I figured I'd also respond.
19:52:49 [AaronSw-HI-US]
my machine keeps dying tho :(
19:52:56 [redmonk]
ah ;-)
19:53:04 [redmonk]
asw: bummer
20:01:51 [jillzilla]
lunch. lunch, I say.
20:04:23 [sbp]
.time PST
20:05:00 [AaronSw-HI-US]
10:04 AM
20:05:10 [sbp]
thanks
20:05:23 [Ash]
.kick xena
20:06:19 [sbp]
er... 1:05 PST
20:06:45 [AaronSw-HI-US]
oh, right
20:06:50 [AaronSw-HI-US]
i was thinking HST
20:06:55 [AaronSw-HI-US]
hm, if i stay here i get semantic web services
20:06:59 [sbp]
move! move quickle!
20:07:03 [AaronSw-HI-US]
"XML Programming Lnaguage for Web Service Specification and Composition"
20:07:35 [AaronSw-HI-US]
next door is "TAG Wokring Perspectives"
20:07:51 [sbp]
s/quickle/quickly/
20:07:52 [AaronSw-HI-US]
(as opposed to failing perspectives, i guess)
20:07:52 [sbp]
heh
20:07:52 [xena]
error: [Errno socket error] (110, 'Connection timed out')
20:07:54 [sbp]
are you enjoying it there?
20:07:54 [AaronSw-HI-US]
yep, last night was awesome
20:07:55 [AaronSw-HI-US]
dinner w/ RoyF, ROhit, MarkB
20:07:58 [AaronSw-HI-US]
then drinks with the W3T
20:08:32 [xena]
error: [Errno socket error] (110, 'Connection timed out')
20:08:43 [AaronSw-HI-US]
i guess mu2 is down
20:08:53 [deltab]
yes
20:08:59 [AaronSw-HI-US]
should i update my dns file?
20:09:56 [AaronSw-HI-US]
oh, wait that won't work
20:10:51 [deltab]
about 2 and a quarter hours now
20:11:38 [AaronSw-HI-US]
interesting
20:11:42 [AaronSw-HI-US]
http://cyber.law.harvard.edu/cc/cc.html
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20:14:01 [sbp]
<A[...]> i'm supposed to go out with something to watch the game tonight
20:14:07 [sbp]
<B[...]> we already think pretty highly of our date, don't we? ;)
20:16:41 [sbp]
ugh, not again:-
20:16:41 [sbp]
[[[
20:16:44 [sbp]
Server Busy
20:16:44 [sbp]
Please wait just a minute while our server prepares to serve your request.
20:16:47 [sbp]
]]] - blogspace area
20:25:18 [AaronSw-HI-US]
works for me
20:25:20 [AaronSw-HI-US]
i have self-repairing servers
20:25:32 [AaronSw-HI-US]
if the robots can't access swhack they automatically repair things
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20:39:55 [sbp]
* sbp tries to add list handling builtins to eep3
20:40:18 [sbp]
realising that if I'm to meet Aaron's challenge, I need to have string:concat working... argh!
20:40:35 [AaronSw-HI-US]
Is that so hard?
20:40:40 [sbp]
nope. shouldn't take long
20:40:55 [AaronSw-HI-US]
phew
20:41:08 [sbp]
I'm already able to add arbitrary triples, but now I forgot I'd have to pass the store through (just doing that now)
20:49:30 [Ash]
jillzilla: hey, excedrin is a great pick-me-up!
20:49:34 [Ash]
oh
20:49:36 [Ash]
I didn't realize I was reading the scrollback
20:49:36 [Ash]
hahaha
20:55:20 [sbp]
Gotta run
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20:59:27 [Ash]
* Ash hands MORBAS a voltron
20:59:41 [jillzilla]
deltab: is xia running well?
20:59:49 [Ash]
jillzilla!
20:59:51 [Ash]
jillzilla!
20:59:51 [Ash]
jillzilla!
20:59:59 [jillzilla]
Ash!
21:00:00 [jillzilla]
x3!
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21:00:11 [Ash]
jillzilla: I was just mentioning that excedrin is a great pick-me-up
21:00:20 [jillzilla]
heh.
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21:00:22 [Ash]
hee hee
21:00:34 [Ash]
It's got a ton of caffeine.
21:00:35 [jillzilla]
sshhhhh...don't tell Morbus.
21:00:37 [Ash]
OH.
21:00:38 [Ash]
Right.
21:00:51 [Ash]
hey jill, work just gave me a laptop
21:00:53 [Ash]
hehe
21:00:57 [Ash]
PII-400
21:00:59 [deltab]
jillzilla: hi. not yet
21:01:01 [Ash]
some monstrous dell thing
21:01:16 [jillzilla]
is losing mu2 an act of the isp, or were you ready?
21:01:29 [jillzilla]
Ash: My laptops are about the same. And I wuv them.
21:01:45 [Ash]
jillzilla: Mine has a 15" display! woohoo
21:01:53 [Ash]
Although I'd rather have a slimmer, lighter laptop.
21:01:56 [AaronSw-HI-US]
tav kept threatening to call up the ISP and scream at them until they took mu2 down, so I suspect it's his doing
21:01:58 [AaronSw-HI-US]
hi, BTW
21:02:05 [jillzilla]
hi.
21:02:08 [Ash]
I'm going to try to get some laptops similar to yours, jill.
21:02:10 [jillzilla]
Why did tav want mu2 down?
21:02:16 [deltab]
heh, that was just motivational
21:02:19 [jillzilla]
Ash: I am a trendsetter?
21:02:20 [jillzilla]
!
21:02:22 [Ash]
I took mu2 down, I'm sorry. :-(
21:02:27 [deltab]
I doubt he actually did
21:02:27 [Ash]
It was all my fault.
21:02:38 [AaronSw-HI-US]
www2002 converage in #rdfig
21:02:39 [Ash]
jillzilla: Well, something along those lines :)
21:02:46 [jillzilla]
Is it a problem that mu2 is down?
21:02:57 [AaronSw-HI-US]
W3C world domination animation: http://www.w3.org/2002/05/memberGraph.svgz
21:03:00 [Ash]
jillzilla: I've wanted a thinkpad 600 since they came out, but never had the cash
21:03:17 [Ash]
and I'm not exactly worried about having the super fastest machine ever
21:03:18 [jillzilla]
They're pleasant little machines. Replacing disks is a bit of a pain, but not too bad.
21:03:18 [Ash]
hehe
21:03:36 [Ash]
jillzilla: I've replaced more than my fair share of laptop disks, so I'm sure it's no big deal.
21:03:37 [Ash]
:)
21:03:47 [jillzilla]
It's just tedious, not difficult.
21:03:57 [Ash]
jillzilla: http://www.msnbc.com/news/748327.asp?pne=msn&cp1=1
21:03:59 [jillzilla]
"oh, good! 41 more little screws! woo!"
21:04:00 [Ash]
as is everything with laptops
21:04:03 [Ash]
hehe
21:04:24 [Ash]
Hey, supposedly 'borked' isn't a word
21:04:24 [jillzilla]
replacing RAM is trivial on the TP600. Much easier than on a desktop machine.
21:04:29 [jillzilla]
* jillzilla is lazy lazy lazy.
21:04:36 [Ash]
I should submit it to the oxford english dictionary.
21:04:46 [Ash]
cool
21:05:02 [jillzilla]
'IN A SPEECH entitled ?Beyond the Axis of Evil,?' ...oh, honestly.
21:09:49 [AaronSw-HI-US]
drunk guys with cell phones: http://impressive.net/archives/fogo/Excell2.3cd8eff426a1044a00000000@SMSGATEWAY.BWARE.IT
21:10:28 [AaronSw-HI-US]
and http://www.xent.com/pipermail/fork/2002-May/011498.html
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21:13:09 [Ash]
jill, how's your battery life on your laptops?
21:17:30 [Ash]
* Ash chases jillzilla
21:18:01 [jillzilla]
Ash: Ugh.
21:18:08 [jillzilla]
I have three batteries.
21:18:14 [jillzilla]
One of them doesn't work at all.
21:18:35 [jillzilla]
The second runs for something like 20 minutes because I didn't know that if you're going to run a laptop as a desktop machine, you take the battery out to avoid castrating it.
21:18:39 [syn|ack]
hi #swhack folk
21:18:46 [jillzilla]
The third is fresh and new and runs for a couple of hours.
21:18:50 [jillzilla]
hi, synack.
21:20:33 [Ash]
heh
21:20:39 [Ash]
cool
21:20:40 [Ash]
:)
21:22:52 [AaronSw-HI-US]
I think mimasa is sitting next to me
21:23:14 [Morbus]
Morbus has quit ("http://www.disobey.com/")
21:28:04 [AaronSw-HI-US]
EricP on the other side
21:28:06 [AaronSw-HI-US]
heh, silyl chanserv
21:29:20 [AaronSw-HI-US]
* AaronSw-HI-US uploads photos
21:42:32 [sbp]
* sbp waves
21:43:01 [AaronSw-HI-US]
Hey bsp. how's that demo goin?
21:43:15 [AaronSw-HI-US]
(sic)
21:43:21 [sbp]
just working on it now, actually
21:43:34 [AaronSw-HI-US]
cool
21:46:39 [sbp]
just realised that I have to do list processing functions *before* I start all the query stuff, but after I've deduced which triples are builtins. argh
21:47:20 [AaronSw-HI-US]
you're using daml/lisp-style lists?
21:47:30 [sbp]
of course
22:01:26 [AaronSw-HI-US]
all the best
22:01:27 [AaronSw-HI-US]
laters.
22:03:26 [redmonk]
hey sbp
22:03:32 [redmonk]
you do a lot of audio capture
22:03:34 [redmonk]
right?
22:03:51 [redmonk]
we're trying to find a route from cassette tape to mp3
22:04:06 [redmonk]
(this includes anyone here though) any ideas?
22:05:58 [Ash]
capture the audio to a raw format and then mp3 compress it.
22:06:06 [Ash]
Just plug the tape deck into your computer's line-in jack
22:06:12 [Ash]
should work fine
22:06:22 [redmonk]
that we've got.
22:06:35 [redmonk]
not sure what to use to capture from line-in to disk
22:06:38 [redmonk]
(OS X)
22:07:02 [sbp]
cassette to mp3: if you find the right lead...
22:07:04 [sbp]
however, I've always done it by just recording from the speaker
22:08:07 [sbp]
swhack looks so empty these days
22:10:56 [Ash]
recording from the speaker???
22:10:57 [Ash]
ha
22:11:00 [Ash]
that's funny
22:11:14 [Ash]
just get a male<->mail 1/8" stereo cable
22:11:16 [Ash]
er
22:11:18 [Ash]
s/mail/male/
22:11:24 [Ash]
you're good to go
22:11:43 [sbp]
and where do you suggest I get one from? it's not like I live in an electrical goods store
22:12:13 [Ash]
uhh
22:12:16 [Ash]
radio shack
22:12:19 [Ash]
it's this store
22:12:24 [Ash]
they have lots of cables and things
22:12:24 [redmonk]
(that's where we got ours)
22:12:32 [sbp]
we don't have radio shack over here, AFAIK
22:12:37 [Ash]
or a Fry's is even better, if you are lucky enough to live near one.
22:12:44 [Ash]
sbp: Oh, you're in JOLLY OLD ENGLAND.. that's right
22:12:44 [deltab]
radio swhack!
22:12:47 [Ash]
Try a TANDY store!
22:12:48 [redmonk]
lol
22:13:25 [redmonk]
i wonder if there's an os x compatible unix command line deely for grabbing to AIFF?
22:13:33 [redmonk]
('cause I'm cheap)
22:14:04 [Ash]
redmonk: who knows
22:14:14 [Ash]
You should be able to just cat /dev/blah > file
22:14:15 [redmonk]
i was hoping someone here did! ;-)
22:14:16 [Ash]
hehehe
22:14:21 [redmonk]
heh
22:14:32 [Ash]
sbp: There has to be some sort of store that sells electronics
22:14:43 [Ash]
most of them would have this sort of thing, or at least a female->male adapter
22:15:10 [sbp]
yeah, I've just had no reason to buy one: I've only done tape to MP3 like once or twice
22:15:24 [Ash]
It's convenient to have that sort of thing around.
22:15:29 [redmonk]
yeah
22:24:31 [sbp]
whee! string:concat works
22:25:33 [sbp]
[[[
22:25:34 [sbp]
{ <#p> <#q> ?r .
22:25:34 [sbp]
("p" "q" ?r) <http://www.w3.org/2000/10/swap/string#concat> ?y } =>
22:25:38 [sbp]
{ ?y a <#Result> } . <#p> <#q> "r" .
22:25:38 [sbp]
Found 1 new statements
22:25:43 [sbp]
"pqr" <http://www.w3.org/1999/02/22-rdf-syntax-ns#type> <#Result> .
22:25:43 [sbp]
]]]
22:27:36 [sbp]
I love it when things work more-or-less-properly :-)
22:37:13 [jillzilla]
Wow, someone else trying to record from cassette to mp3. Cool.
22:38:01 [redmonk]
i've got a techno bootleg that needs rrrrripping, and i have some russion language lesson cassette tapes that i want to rip
22:38:19 [redmonk]
have you done it, jill?
22:38:33 [redmonk]
(cassette to mp3, i mean)
22:38:34 [jillzilla]
No, I've been talking about it on irc.
22:38:34 [redmonk]
;-)
22:38:45 [jillzilla]
(thanks for the clarification... :-)
22:38:45 [redmonk]
ah
22:38:59 [jillzilla]
almost but not quite the same thing.
22:39:01 [jillzilla]
heh.
22:44:58 [Ash]
I like recording from vinyl to mp3.
22:45:50 [jillzilla]
My turntable sounds hideous. I haven't had the equipment to swap out to find out if the problem is the turntable or the phono circuit in the amp.
22:46:55 [redmonk]
* redmonk has no hifi equipment at all. only wifi ;-)
22:46:57 [sbp]
Hmph: can't get new variable bindings from builtins to substitute in the lists
22:47:18 [sbp]
* sbp wonders where Aaron went
22:50:01 [sbp]
ah, heh: the list variables weren't in the variable bindings dictionary to being with
22:56:12 [redmonk]
d'oh!
23:34:00 [AaronSw-HI-US]
wendy been around? she wants to chat with me about EARL...
23:34:13 [AaronSw-HI-US]
.seen wendy
23:34:14 [xena]
wendy seen joining #swhack ~ 30 day(s) 7 hr(s) 7 min(s) 15 sec(s) ago
23:34:23 [AaronSw-HI-US]
I think xena's lost her mind.
23:34:25 [sbp]
try w3.org/er
23:34:49 [sbp]
Hmm... she's not there
23:35:44 [AaronSw-HI-US]
karld uses French OS X
23:35:46 [AaronSw-HI-US]
on a pismo
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oierw` (~mathew@pcp994425pcs.goosck01.sc.comcast.net) has joined #swhack
23:36:34 [AaronSw-HI-US]
timbl sits down in front
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23:42:45 [sbp]
hooray! I've managed to do it
23:42:56 [sbp]
this test passes:-
23:42:57 [sbp]
[[[
23:42:58 [sbp]
<http://blargh.org/> dc:title "blargh"; rdfs:seeAlso <http://example.org/> .
23:43:00 [sbp]
{ ?x dc:title ?title; rdfs:seeAlso ?also .
23:43:00 [sbp]
?also <http://www.w3.org/2000/10/swap/log#uri> ?uri .
23:43:03 [sbp]
("<a href=\\"" ?uri "\\">" ?title "</a>") string:concat ?output } =>
23:43:04 [sbp]
{ ?x <#htmlStuff> ?output; <#rdfsU> ?uri } .
23:43:04 [sbp]
]]]
23:43:11 [sbp]
Found 2 new statements
23:43:12 [sbp]
<http://blargh.org/> <#htmlStuff> "<a href=\"http://example.org/\">blargh</a>" .
23:43:13 [sbp]
<http://blargh.org/> <#rdfsU> "http://example.org/" .