IRC log of swhack on 2002-05-07

Timestamps are in UTC.

00:11:21 [jillzilla]

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00:12:00 [jillzilla]

* jillzilla remembers to wish her mother a happy birthday.

00:12:04 [jillzilla]

* jillzilla is deeply relieved.

00:20:31 [rik]

* rik pounces on jillium

00:20:31 [rik]

* rik pounces on jillzilla

00:20:31 [rik]

too

00:27:18 [oierw]

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00:40:17 [sbp]

* sbp was flicking through the channels...

00:40:23 [sbp]

and I came across BBC Four

00:40:36 [sbp]

they were showing a Martin Carthy concert!

00:40:45 [sbp]

and he brought Swarb on

00:40:59 [sbp]

(who was looking very ill, and wasin a wheelchair)

00:41:14 [sbp]

but he played really well... they did Byker Hill together

00:41:49 [sbp]

but anyway, it just goes to show that flicking through the channels sometimes pays off

00:49:51 [oierw]

goog'r?

00:50:32 [sbp]

yeah. get it today

00:55:19 [oierw]

* oierw is lost

00:59:32 [AaronSw-HI-US]

yo yo yo

00:59:38 [deltab]

aloha!

01:00:01 [sbp]

hey there

01:00:29 [AaronSw-HI-US]

aloha!

01:00:45 [AaronSw-HI-US]

I'm just logging on to send queued email

01:00:59 [AaronSw-HI-US]

i handled 750 emails on the plane before i ran out of batts

01:01:19 [AaronSw-HI-US]

* AaronSw-HI-US watches his 1009 actions synchronize

01:01:34 [AaronSw-HI-US]

The cybercafe here rocks! they

01:01:37 [AaronSw-HI-US]

have the new imacs!!!

01:01:43 [AaronSw-HI-US]

first i've seen them anywhere

01:01:52 [AaronSw-HI-US]

and wireless too

01:01:56 [AaronSw-HI-US]

all provided by apple according to the sign

01:02:04 [deltab]

nice

01:02:22 [AaronSw-HI-US]

unfortunately i can't seem to pick up the wireless...

01:02:40 [AaronSw-HI-US]

oh, here we go...

01:02:56 [AaronSw-HI-US]

named waikiki it seems

01:04:02 [AaronSw-HI-US]

tansaku_xf, did i miss neurogrid call?

01:06:25 [AaronSw-HI-US]

Hm, I think I just borked my email program.

01:06:50 [oierw]

heh

01:07:29 [AaronSw-HI-US]

i had an http archiver success story on the plane

01:08:07 [AaronSw-HI-US]

smtprelay 141.142www2002.netenterprise.net

01:08:16 [AaronSw-HI-US]

.dns 141.142www2002.netenterprise.net

01:08:23 [AaronSw-HI-US]

hm, no xena

01:08:34 [AaronSw-HI-US]

smtprelay 66.180.142.141

01:09:30 [oierw]

xena is down during the move to xia, i figure

01:09:46 [AaronSw-HI-US]

makes sense

01:09:56 [AaronSw-HI-US]

well mom is probably worrying about me so i better be going

01:09:57 [AaronSw-HI-US]

ttyl

01:11:03 [sbp]

c'ya

01:13:14 [jillzilla]

* jillzilla waves to AaronSw.

01:13:17 [jillzilla]

* jillzilla notices rik.

01:13:18 [jillzilla]

rik.

01:13:27 [jillzilla]

hiya, oierw. long time no see.

01:13:28 [rik]

me0w!

01:13:33 [rik]

* rik jumps up and down

01:13:36 [jillzilla]

* jillzilla pets sbp.

01:13:37 [sbp]

* sbp waves

01:13:45 [sbp]

puuuuuurrrrrrr

01:13:52 [jillzilla]

Oh, wait, got you confused with rik...ooooh!

01:13:56 [rik]

no

01:14:02 [sbp]

* sbp smacks himself - this channel is *logged*

01:14:10 [rik]

read the blog, and see the CatBot episode

01:14:13 [jillzilla]

* jillzilla giggles.

01:14:15 [sbp]

heh, heh

01:14:16 [rik]

and about half an hour before it too

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01:15:19 [jillzilla]

* jillzilla just spent 45 minutes reading design docs in the massage chair.

01:15:34 [rik]

* rik squeezes jill.

01:16:12 [jillzilla]

Heh. I think the massage chair would be annoying for a kittycat. The person said cat was sitting on would be constantly rolling up and down and being joggled by the chair.

01:16:12 [CatBot]

* CatBot twitches ears

01:16:33 [rik]

* rik smiles

01:16:43 [oierw]

hello jillium

01:18:14 [jillzilla]

* jillzilla squeals after getting email from an old coworker whom she would love to see.

01:18:33 [rik]

* rik twists ears away from high-pitched girly squealing

01:18:43 [rik]

* rik oils jill to stop squeaks.

01:18:44 [jillzilla]

* jillzilla remembers that rik has never actually met her.

01:21:38 [rik]

* rik shrugs

01:22:10 [sbp]

well, I've never heard a deep-baritone squeal...

01:22:21 [jillzilla]

mezzo-soprano.

01:22:41 [sbp]

ooh! I just got it

01:23:07 [sbp]

for like about three quarters of an hour I've been trying to work out one of my old songs

01:23:13 [sbp]

and I think I've got most of the intro

01:23:15 [jillzilla]

one that you wrote?

01:23:38 [sbp]

yeah

01:23:49 [rik]

heh

01:23:59 [rik]

jill...

01:24:04 [jillzilla]

rik...

01:24:12 [rik]

catch up with the channel.

01:24:13 [rik]

* rik nods

01:24:18 [rik]

find out why there's a CatBot here.

01:24:19 [CatBot]

* CatBot twitches ears

01:24:24 [rik]

heh

01:24:47 [jillzilla]

oh, bugger. My buffer doesn't include anything about that.

01:25:00 [jillzilla]

log uri?

01:25:06 [rik]

uh,

01:25:25 [sbp]

http://blogspace.com/swhack/chatlogs/

01:25:57 [jillzilla]

you'd think I'd have bookmarked that by now. Thanks, sbp.

01:25:57 [rik]

heh

01:26:19 [sbp]

np

01:27:01 [rik]

starts 20:39:04

01:28:21 [jillzilla]

Oh, I'm reading something earlier than that. sbp demoing.

01:28:31 [jillzilla]

oh, sorry, misread your timestamp.

01:28:31 [rik]

'k. well..

01:28:33 [rik]

* rik shrugs

01:28:40 [rik]

heh

01:28:49 [jillzilla]

sbp: it's very cute.

01:29:14 [sbp]

what, rik, or CatBot?

01:29:25 [jillzilla]

catbot.

01:29:34 [sbp]

* sbp works out 99-100% of the song, and is rather pleased with himself

01:29:35 [rik]

both :)

01:29:43 [jillzilla]

heh. fair enough.

01:31:32 [rik]

it copies me very very well :)

01:31:48 [rik]

right. time for me to curl up in my basket

01:31:55 [jillzilla]

night, riklet.

01:32:04 [sbp]

c'ya, rik

01:32:05 [rik]

nanight, miss zilla

01:32:10 [rik]

night sbp.

01:32:40 [jillzilla]

.jumpmenow.

01:32:43 [jillzilla]

.jumpmenow

01:32:45 [jillzilla]

bah.

01:32:45 [sbp]

heh, heh

01:32:56 [sbp]

you're *so* lucky that Morbus isn't here

01:33:12 [jillzilla]

hee.

01:33:19 [jillzilla]

* jillzilla craves sugar. argh.

01:33:46 [sbp]

heh. you'll be seeing little sugar elves dancing around your desk soon

01:33:53 [sbp]

go and get some pixie sticks!

01:33:54 [jillzilla]

already...seeing...

01:34:02 [jillzilla]

...arrrrghhhh.....

01:34:13 [jillzilla]

I think I'll go have dinner and see if this craving goes away or not.

01:34:39 [jillzilla]

* jillzilla wanders off.

01:39:43 [BenSw]

* BenSw is back

01:40:19 [jillzilla]

* jillzilla waves to BenSw.

01:40:26 [BenSw]

Hi

01:41:22 [jillzilla]

Ooooh, it's bridge night!

01:41:29 [jillzilla]

* jillzilla does the bridge night dance.

01:47:44 [jillzilla]

yes!

01:48:04 [sbp]

yes indeedy

01:48:42 [jillzilla]

rowr. food...

01:48:44 [jillzilla]

* jillzilla disappears.

01:49:13 [sbp]

note to Google employees: clear the way! Jill's on the prowl for food!

01:49:23 [BenSw]

heh

01:49:23 [sbp]

end of note to Google employees

01:49:29 [BenSw]

.help

01:49:30 [CatBot]

Commands: [ meow, backflip, pester_for_treats, nap ] Use .help command for more help

01:49:38 [BenSw]

.meow

01:49:38 [CatBot]

* CatBot meows loudly

01:49:44 [BenSw]

.backflip

01:49:44 [CatBot]

* CatBot backflips and mews

01:49:51 [BenSw]

.nap

01:49:51 [CatBot]

* CatBot falls asleep

01:49:57 [BenSw]

.pester_for_treats

01:50:10 [CatBot]

* CatBot wakes

01:50:10 [CatBot]

* CatBot pads over to and paws at the leg of BenSw, and motions towards the kittysnack box

01:50:28 [sbp]

.kittytreat

01:50:30 [CatBot]

* CatBot crunches noisily

01:55:13 [sbp]

CatBot needs a proper catnap now

01:55:16 [CatBot]

CatBot has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer))

01:57:16 [sbp]

Hmm... a gnat cap would be quite small

01:57:51 [sbp]

and you'd need really fine tweezers to put it on said gnat

01:58:19 [sbp]

and some sort of gnat mount and magnifying device

01:59:01 [sbp]

but gnat's have the right to be stylish, surely. I think that caps would suit them

01:59:12 [sbp]

perhaps people would like them more if they wore caps

01:59:46 [sbp]

s/gnat's/gnats/

02:32:00 [rillian]

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02:36:48 [aaronsw]

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02:37:02 [aaronsw]

howdy

02:37:04 [deltab]

aloha?

02:37:08 [aaronsw]

aloha

02:37:17 [aaronsw]

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02:37:30 [AaronSw-WWW2002]

For some reason my connection to the dirc instance isn't working

02:42:51 [rillian]

that's the -HI-US nick?

02:43:01 [AaronSw-WWW2002]

yep

02:43:10 [rillian]

nice place for a conference

02:43:30 [AaronSw-WWW2002]

yeah, if only it wasn't so cloudy

02:44:19 [rillian]

rainy season?

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02:45:53 [AaronSw-WWW2002]

no rDNS yet?

02:46:06 [deltab]

nope

02:48:42 [rillian]

were does one get a standalone getopt_long implementation for use with systems that don't have it in libc?

02:49:41 [rillian]

ah, there's a copy in gengetopt from gnu.org

02:56:13 [AaronSw-HI-US]

aha

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03:16:43 [AaronSw-HI-US]

sbp?

03:16:51 [AaronSw-HI-US]

so far I've seen a Wiki Wiki shuttle and a Wiki Wiki bus

03:17:16 [deltab]

ah, I was going to ask if you had

03:18:09 [AaronSw-HI-US]

Hm, dajobe's haveing fun: http://photos.dajobe.org/gallery/hawaii-2002

03:18:34 [AaronSw-HI-US]

apparently Rohit is here

03:18:41 [AaronSw-HI-US]

but he's listed as a student which is odd

03:18:48 [AaronSw-HI-US]

EricP's title is "Sanitation Engineer"

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03:29:56 [sbp]

* sbp waves

03:29:58 [sbp]

cool, Wiki Wiki stuff!

03:30:28 [sbp]

listed as a student: he probably gets a discount

03:30:54 [AaronSw-HI-US]

ah, perhaps

03:31:23 [AaronSw-HI-US]

all the w3c folks are in AC meetings :/

03:31:37 [sbp]

ugh. where are you?

03:32:15 [AaronSw-HI-US]

i'm hanging out with afs and dajobe in the lobbythingy

03:32:26 [sbp]

afs?

03:32:33 [sbp]

* sbp waves to dajobe

03:32:41 [AaronSw-HI-US]

Andy Seaborne

03:32:47 [sbp]

ah!

03:34:13 [AaronSw-HI-US]

lots of japanese folk

03:35:23 [BenSw]

Hi aaron

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03:40:21 [sbp]

so, how's Hawaii? lots of rain?

03:40:43 [AaronSw-HI-US]

hey BenSw

03:40:47 [AaronSw-HI-US]

well, it's stopped raining

03:40:49 [AaronSw-HI-US]

just overcastnow

03:41:11 [sbp]

heh: you go all that way, and it pisses it down. just bloomin' great, eh?

03:41:45 [AaronSw-HI-US]

hm, dajobe and afs are off to look for dan and libby

03:41:57 [sbp]

not too shabby: http://photos.dajobe.org/gallery/hawaii-2002-waikiki/aab

03:42:06 [sbp]

wow, I guess everyone's there

03:42:11 [AaronSw-HI-US]

yeah, wish it was like that today

03:42:19 [AaronSw-HI-US]

yeah, i checked off all the people i knew on the list of attendees

03:42:21 [AaronSw-HI-US]

quite a few

03:42:36 [AaronSw-HI-US]

I'm hoping to meet Edd

03:43:23 [sbp]

what exactly are you going to be doing there? have you put an itinerary on the Web?

03:43:42 [AaronSw-HI-US]

well, i'm just gonna hang about at the conference i guess

03:43:53 [AaronSw-HI-US]

oh, AC meetings out, guess I should look for HU-MANS

03:44:03 [sbp]

heh, good luck

03:44:09 [AaronSw-HI-US]

schmooze all humans

03:44:10 [AaronSw-HI-US]

c'ya

03:45:10 [sbp]

heh, it's funny skimming through a big list of low-priority email and suddenly seeing your name

03:45:17 [sbp]

"argh! what did I miss this time?"

03:49:21 [sbp]

.time

03:49:22 [xena]

2002/05/07 03:49:22.4828 Universal

03:55:57 [BenSw]

sbp do you want to play a game of chess?

03:56:08 [sbp]

sure

03:56:16 [sbp]

with who?

03:57:14 [BenSw]

with me

03:57:30 [sbp]

O.K. :-)

03:57:45 [BenSw]

on yahoo I guess

03:57:55 [sbp]

* sbp loads up yahoo games

03:58:23 [BenSw]

meet me in Amateurs' Arena

03:58:29 [BenSw]

in the beginner section

03:59:23 [sbp]

* sbp navigates

03:59:35 [jillzilla]

oooh, delicious use of /me.

03:59:40 [jillzilla]

* jillzilla admires.

03:59:54 [sbp]

heh, heh. you could plop it on a plate and call it ice-cream

04:00:38 [BenSw]

sbp whats your name?

04:00:49 [BenSw]

on yahoo that is

04:01:13 [sbp]

heh, you'll recognize it when you see it :-)

04:01:19 [sbp]

* sbp loads the applet

04:01:24 [BenSw]

what sbp?

04:01:34 [BenSw]

ah there

04:01:57 [sbp]

is that you that just invited me?

04:02:01 [BenSw]

yes

04:02:14 [AaronSw-HI-US]

* AaronSw-HI-US watches Greg Fitzpatrick and Libby take a dose of Early Adopter Syndrome

04:02:24 [AaronSw-HI-US]

* AaronSw-HI-US takes a photo

04:02:26 [AaronSw-HI-US]

they're trying to bluetooth each other wiht little success

04:09:27 [AaronSw-HI-US]

gotta run

04:09:32 [BenSw]

bye

04:13:00 [BenSw]

gotta go to bed

04:13:27 [sbp]

c'ya

04:15:32 [BenSw]

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05:49:43 [sbp]

Gotta run

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06:27:07 [s|a]

hiya

07:34:25 [AaronSw-HI-US]

* AaronSw-HI-US waves

07:34:27 [AaronSw-HI-US]

went out to dinner with the gang

07:34:37 [AaronSw-HI-US]

.tiem

07:34:39 [AaronSw-HI-US]

.time

07:34:40 [xena]

2002/05/07 07:34:40.3302 Universal

07:34:49 [AaronSw-HI-US]

.time cst

07:34:50 [xena]

May 7, 2002 2:34 am US/Central

07:35:01 [AaronSw-HI-US]

come on now i see xena..

07:35:19 [AaronSw-HI-US]

hm, not a great time zone...

07:35:20 [AaronSw-HI-US]

.time hst

07:35:21 [xena]

error: Site Error occurred: KeyError

07:35:26 [AaronSw-HI-US]

only 9PM here

07:35:29 [AaronSw-HI-US]

well, 930

07:35:57 [tansaku_xf]

who was in the gang?

07:37:03 [AaronSw-HI-US]

ooh: http://www.apple.com/macosx/newversion/

07:37:34 [AaronSw-HI-US]

gang: dajobe, markb, artb, greg fitzpatrick, libby, johann heljm

07:37:39 [AaronSw-HI-US]

i've got photos...

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07:38:52 [AaronSw-HI-US]

* AaronSw-HI-US uploads

07:39:56 [tansaku_xf]

so what about this cc thing then, I gather you've been working on it for a while now ...

07:41:22 [AaronSw-HI-US]

yep

07:41:27 [AaronSw-HI-US]

photos being uploaded to http://www.aaronsw.com/photos/www2002/

07:42:05 [AaronSw-HI-US]

neat, fellow next to me is using some sort of touch pad to enter japanese characteres

07:42:10 [AaronSw-HI-US]

it makes a cool whooshing noise

07:42:34 [AaronSw-HI-US]

is it just me or does sherlock3 look like a watson clone?

07:42:38 [tansaku_xf]

great hawaii shirt action

07:43:07 [tansaku_xf]

re: japanese characters - a zaurus?

07:43:55 [tansaku_xf]

I was going to ask you if the cc people had convinced you that there would be people who make use of the cc concept, but only if you're not too busy

07:44:09 [tansaku_xf]

concept --> eventual software

07:44:11 [AaronSw-HI-US]

i'm not busy

07:44:22 [AaronSw-HI-US]

well, i'm a CC Person

07:44:32 [tansaku_xf]

have you convinced yourself :)

07:44:33 [AaronSw-HI-US]

I believe there will be software using this, yes

07:44:58 [tansaku_xf]

I believe there will be software too :)

07:45:09 [tansaku_xf]

what I mean is will there be lots of people wanting to use it

07:45:13 [AaronSw-HI-US]

Ah

07:45:40 [tansaku_xf]

Loki@infoAnarchy made a comment about just ripping off the meta-data license and using stuff anyway

07:46:04 [AaronSw-HI-US]

Well people can do that with anything.

07:46:21 [tansaku_xf]

I mean I can see that some people would want to prove that they have a license for what they do, but I'm wondering how many people there are like that

07:46:24 [AaronSw-HI-US]

The point of the license is to explicitly give people rights... I'm not sure why they'd throw those rights away

07:46:46 [tansaku_xf]

well, if rights and restrictions are one in the same no?

07:47:02 [tansaku_xf]

* tansaku_xf is having trouble maintaining grammatical consistency

07:47:07 [AaronSw-HI-US]

well copyright is fully restrictive by default

07:47:18 [AaronSw-HI-US]

if you tear off the license you get all the restrictions and none of the rights

07:47:42 [tansaku_xf]

yes, Lisa mentioned something about restriction by default, I wasn't aware of that

07:47:56 [tansaku_xf]

presumably that's some kind of US legal thing?

07:48:11 [AaronSw-HI-US]

Yeah, in the US at least as soon as you affix a work in a tangable form then the owner must explicitly allow everything

07:48:29 [AaronSw-HI-US]

with the exception of fair use and a few other things

07:48:33 [tansaku_xf]

anyway, I think Loki was missing the point, he was assuming that this was some system to try and prevent people copying mp3s etc

07:48:44 [AaronSw-HI-US]

right, which it's decidedly not

07:48:53 [AaronSw-HI-US]

otherwise i wouldn't get involved ;)

07:48:53 [tansaku_xf]

but what it really is is a system to try and allow people who want to demonstrate their legality to be able to do so

07:49:10 [tansaku_xf]

:)

07:49:34 [tansaku_xf]

which motivates my original question of do we think that a lot of people are keen to demonstrate their legality

07:49:35 [AaronSw-HI-US]

that's a good way to put it

07:49:52 [AaronSw-HI-US]

Well, the major benefit I see is the listing of trusted media

07:50:02 [tansaku_xf]

I mean its easy to come up with a few examples, e.g. film students etc.

07:50:03 [AaronSw-HI-US]

so that folks who are worried about these things can go and get stuff that's safe to use

07:50:19 [AaronSw-HI-US]

but i see your point

07:50:32 [AaronSw-HI-US]

I guess I'm working both sides of the fence...

07:50:37 [tansaku_xf]

ah, so people who want to make sure they are abiding the law can do so?

07:50:41 [AaronSw-HI-US]

Yep.

07:51:03 [tansaku_xf]

it's an interesting idea - it will be interesting to see who starts to use it

07:52:09 [tansaku_xf]

I'm just curious about where the demand for this is coming from - maybe Lessig is contacted by people saying "please help me demonstrate my legality" or maybe not :)

07:52:20 [tansaku_xf]

although maybe he is ...

07:53:18 [tansaku_xf]

how are things going with plesh anyhow - I was looking at the site the other day trying to find something about your routing methodology, is there more documentation, or did I miss something?

07:53:42 [AaronSw-HI-US]

no there's unfortuantely not much work or docs :(

07:53:53 [AaronSw-HI-US]

I plan to use CHord for routing

07:53:57 [tansaku_xf]

right

07:54:03 [tansaku_xf]

I remember now

07:54:13 [tansaku_xf]

* tansaku_xf 's brain is really starting to run down

07:54:23 [AaronSw-HI-US]

heh

07:54:34 [AaronSw-HI-US]

i'm hoping to drum up support at the conference here and in california

07:54:35 [tansaku_xf]

is Zooko implementing Chord in Python ...

07:54:47 [tansaku_xf]

or is that blanu?

07:54:59 [tansaku_xf]

somebody was doing some chord thing in python

07:55:01 [AaronSw-HI-US]

nope, i am and icepick's helping out

07:55:06 [AaronSw-HI-US]

i wrote PyChord

07:55:09 [AaronSw-HI-US]

which uses HTTP

07:55:18 [tansaku_xf]

oh yeah?

07:55:20 [AaronSw-HI-US]

icepick's porting it to EGTP which is the MN protocol

07:55:39 [tansaku_xf]

right, I think I was picking up on some of icepick's recent posts to mnet

07:55:57 [tansaku_xf]

so was it difficult to get chord running?

07:56:13 [AaronSw-HI-US]

not really. it took a while to understand the protcol but after that it was pretty easy

07:56:23 [AaronSw-HI-US]

but i'm not so good at networking so the code still needs some work

07:56:37 [tansaku_xf]

is it available os? is there a demo?

07:56:53 [tansaku_xf]

I'm still coming up to speed on chord myself ...

07:57:02 [AaronSw-HI-US]

http://cvs.plesh.net/semplesh/chord/

07:57:43 [tansaku_xf]

main.py and network.py ?

07:58:02 [AaronSw-HI-US]

main.py is the chord algorithm

07:58:10 [AaronSw-HI-US]

network.py is the HTTP binding

07:58:55 [tansaku_xf]

interesting

07:59:06 [AaronSw-HI-US]

wanted to keep it clean

07:59:31 [tansaku_xf]

ah for the spare time to achieve python fluency

07:59:45 [AaronSw-HI-US]

Honestly it's not difficult.

07:59:52 [tansaku_xf]

no I can see that

08:00:01 [tansaku_xf]

it might take me a week, but I don't have a week :(

08:00:15 [AaronSw-HI-US]

I read "Learning Python" one day and was coding as soon as i put it down

08:00:28 [tansaku_xf]

Oh yeah, I was coding python after a couple of hours

08:00:54 [tansaku_xf]

but even a weeks worth of python knowledge couldn't compare with my speed in Java

08:01:01 [AaronSw-HI-US]

Hm.

08:01:07 [tansaku_xf]

I've been programming if for 4 years, I know the libraries back to front

08:01:14 [tansaku_xf]

if --> it

08:01:21 [AaronSw-HI-US]

ah yeah the libraries are more difficult

08:01:31 [AaronSw-HI-US]

well, there's always jython ;)

08:01:40 [tansaku_xf]

jython is a possibility :)

08:01:58 [tansaku_xf]

also some of my main work is on cell phones

08:02:00 [tansaku_xf]

all java

08:02:05 [tansaku_xf]

no python for cell phones yet

08:02:17 [AaronSw-HI-US]

silly cellphones ;/

08:02:22 [AaronSw-HI-US]

there's python for palm at least

08:02:35 [tansaku_xf]

so anyway, plesh will distribute triples using chord?

08:02:42 [AaronSw-HI-US]

yep

08:03:06 [tansaku_xf]

I mean chord supports searching for ids right, so how will I find all triples the object of which is "cheese"?

08:03:35 [AaronSw-HI-US]

well we use the traditional rdf->hastable encoding

08:03:51 [AaronSw-HI-US]

which is to make a bunch of hashtables

08:04:03 [AaronSw-HI-US]

so that you look up "cheese" in the obnject hashtabkle

08:04:37 [tansaku_xf]

ok, so what about when I want to find all the triples with objects that contain the partial string "ee"?

08:05:04 [AaronSw-HI-US]

eh, you don't want to do that

08:05:09 [tansaku_xf]

no?

08:05:18 [AaronSw-HI-US]

you'll get zillions of matches

08:05:29 [AaronSw-HI-US]

i don't know of any RDF APIs even non-distributed that do that

08:05:39 [tansaku_xf]

tristero does that

08:05:51 [AaronSw-HI-US]

well, it's an option, right?

08:06:11 [tansaku_xf]

not sure

08:06:19 [tansaku_xf]

I mean it's part of the interface

08:06:35 [tansaku_xf]

none of the interface has been declared optional or mandatory either way really

08:06:46 [AaronSw-HI-US]

hm, he implied it was optional to me

08:07:00 [tansaku_xf]

well the interface is in flux

08:07:13 [AaronSw-HI-US]

yeah

08:07:21 [AaronSw-HI-US]

well, i better be grabbing some sleep...

08:07:24 [AaronSw-HI-US]

nice talking to you

08:07:28 [tansaku_xf]

I'm not sure that it's a crucial operation either way

08:07:31 [tansaku_xf]

sleep well

08:07:39 [tansaku_xf]

thanks for bringing me up to speed on plesh

08:07:43 [AaronSw-HI-US]

no prob

08:09:25 [tansaku_xf]

the last question on my mind is this rdf->hashtable mapping over chord means that one node ends up storing all the triples with object "cheese" ...

08:09:29 [tansaku_xf]

?

08:09:44 [tansaku_xf]

* tansaku_xf imagines a cheese node

08:09:53 [AaronSw-HI-US]

yeah, that's a problem to work out

08:10:04 [AaronSw-HI-US]

obviously this is not a long-term solution

08:10:08 [tansaku_xf]

sure

08:10:22 [AaronSw-HI-US]

but i want to get something simple out the door

08:10:27 [tansaku_xf]

good plan

08:10:38 [tansaku_xf]

release early, release often :)

08:10:46 [AaronSw-HI-US]

exactly.

08:10:53 [AaronSw-HI-US]

alright, i better be going. laters.

08:10:56 [tansaku_xf]

laters

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13:55:14 [redmonk]

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13:55:30 [redmonk]

'ello

13:55:39 [redmonk]

*SWHACK*

13:55:42 [redmonk]

* redmonk apppears

13:56:04 [pixel]

hi.

14:02:04 [redmonk]

hi pix

14:03:44 [pixel]

how're you today?

14:05:11 [redmonk]

tiiiired

14:05:17 [redmonk]

it's 7:05

14:05:19 [pixel]

been awake too long?

14:05:21 [redmonk]

i've been up since 5

14:05:29 [pixel]

eww. on the west coast?

14:05:37 [redmonk]

had to take my parents to the airport this morning

14:05:43 [redmonk]

MST

14:05:52 [redmonk]

actually, AZ time

14:05:57 [redmonk]

same as west coast right now

14:05:57 [pixel]

ahh.

14:06:09 [pixel]

daylight "savings"

14:06:11 [redmonk]

you?

14:06:15 [redmonk]

no

14:06:17 [pixel]

i'm in kentucky. EST.

14:06:18 [redmonk]

well, yes

14:06:25 [redmonk]

AZ does not do DST

14:06:31 [pixel]

it's currently 10:09.

14:06:35 [redmonk]

which is why we are the same as PST

14:06:38 [redmonk]

right now

14:06:38 [pixel]

I see.

14:06:54 [pixel]

DST is nuts.

14:07:41 [redmonk]

yeah

14:08:20 [pixel]

so what do you do for a living?

14:08:32 [pixel]

(since I'm ne here, I have no idea who people are)

14:08:37 [pixel]

ne=new

14:09:04 [redmonk]

heh

14:09:14 [redmonk]

i write webobjects code in java

14:09:30 [pixel]

cool.

14:09:35 [redmonk]

it can be

14:09:47 [redmonk]

right now i'm fighting an oracle database

14:09:54 [pixel]

I haven't written anything in java yet.

14:09:54 [redmonk]

which sucks. badly.

14:10:22 [redmonk]

waddyado?

14:11:02 [pixel]

I write web apps in ASP / VBScript / Perl / XML / XSL / etc etc.

14:11:24 [pixel]

of course, right now I'm doing alot of monkey work changing crap on a website.

14:11:39 [redmonk]

ugh. been there, done that

14:12:27 [pixel]

I've been evaluating a bunch of CMS systems so someone elsecan do it all, but it's a long process.

14:15:06 [redmonk]

yeah

14:16:54 [pixel]

have you always written in Java?

14:18:56 [redmonk]

heh. nope.

14:19:21 [redmonk]

html, perl, javascript, asp, vbscript, jscript, java, python

14:19:40 [redmonk]

a few weeks in cold fusion (shudder)

14:20:08 [pixel]

cool. I'm html, javascript., perl, asp, vbscript, jscript, python, ruby

14:20:18 [pixel]

i feel exactly the same way about cold fusion.

14:20:32 [pixel]

but they're pushing me here to use it more.

14:20:55 [pixel]

it's the most insance language I think I've ever seen.

14:21:11 [redmonk]

it's not... a language

14:21:21 [redmonk]

really

14:21:27 [pixel]

not technically.

14:21:50 [pixel]

it's crap to write, in any case.

14:22:26 [redmonk]

indeed

14:22:48 [redmonk]

guess that's why they had to make homesite so good - to make up for it ;-)

14:22:57 [redmonk]

anyway, back to fighting oracle

14:23:20 [pixel]

hehe. I used to use homesite to write nearly everything in. it was pretty bloated though (on the memory end at least).

14:23:24 [pixel]

have fun with oracle.

14:23:31 [redmonk]

um, thx. :)

14:26:03 [sbp]

* sbp waves

14:28:05 [sbp]

* sbp goes through http://www.aaronsw.com/photos/www2002/

14:45:56 [sbp]

<[...]> http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/sci/tech/newsid_1961000/1961798.stm ... finally ...Ratbots!!

14:45:57 [sbp]

<sbp> wow, is it April Fools day again already?

14:45:57 [sbp]

<[...]> could be handy to have implants that steer you home from the pub :)

15:04:55 [sbp]

argh, Yapps is so screwy

15:10:50 [bitsko]

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15:14:27 [redmonk]

* redmonk waves

15:16:56 [Ash]

* Ash WAVES

15:17:10 [Ash]

*wave*

15:17:10 [redmonk]

hey - not so loud :)

15:17:13 [Ash]

hehehe

15:17:18 [Ash]

How are you this morning, rm?

15:17:19 [redmonk]

hi ash

15:17:27 [redmonk]

tired, and fighting oracle

15:17:31 [Ash]

elite

15:17:41 [redmonk]

we moved to a new version of oracle and some of my code broke

15:17:51 [Ash]

* Ash hands redmonk a few grenades and a ninja assassin

15:18:16 [redmonk]

well, the oracle database runs a few dozen apps. mine is just two of them

15:18:19 [redmonk]

thx

15:18:39 [redmonk]

* redmonk trains ninja to be masters of ninjava

15:19:07 [redmonk]

rolls grenade under DBA's desk

15:19:18 [redmonk]

*FOOM*

15:19:26 [pixel]

interesting. They've apparently left debugging on in Trillian.

15:20:12 [bitsko]

is that a bad thing?

15:20:40 [rik]

redmonk: a flashbang? so you can storm in with a big, scary looking gun.. the sort of gun that when you look at it tells you you don't want to be stood there.

15:20:42 [bitsko]

* bitsko worries as he's running Trillian now...

15:20:55 [pixel]

it's a pain in the butt. it's sending crap to the debug stream, and it's making it hard for me to debug my own stuff. I keep adding filters to filter thier crap out, but there's no common identifier.

15:21:07 [redmonk]

ah

15:21:10 [redmonk]

rik: heh

15:21:24 [rik]

blah

15:21:28 [rik]

misquote-o-rama.

15:21:33 [rik]

and i don't even know where from

15:21:36 [pixel]

ooh. the debug software has an include only filter.

15:21:40 [rik]

* rik goog'r's.

15:22:20 [rik]

* rik pouts

15:23:34 [sbp]

ugh, w-a is so slow

15:25:20 [bitsko]

bitsko has quit ("Leaving")

15:26:28 [sbp]

Hmm... who's this Noen guy?

15:27:18 [redmonk]

maybe he speaketh no-english

15:27:57 [sbp]

possibly

15:29:13 [redmonk]

or maybe he doesn't like typographic en-spaces

15:29:49 [sbp]

heh, heh

15:30:02 [redmonk]

sup witchu sbp

15:30:51 [sbp]

just jamming

15:30:58 [redmonk]

cool

15:40:53 [Ash]

* Ash lauughs

15:40:55 [Ash]

ahahaha

15:43:31 [redmonk]

jillium!

15:43:39 [Ash]

[OLM]

15:43:45 [redmonk]

Jiiiiiiiiiiilliummmmm!!!

15:43:55 [jillium]

hiya, redmonk!

15:44:00 [sbp]

Hi there Jill

15:44:06 [Ash]

sbp: RESPECT THE #!!!

15:44:08 [Ash]

*g*

15:44:14 [sbp]

what?

15:44:15 [jillium]

* jillium kicks Ash.

15:44:22 [Ash]

ow

15:44:23 [sbp]

<redmonk> Jiiiiiiiiiiilliummmmm!!!

15:44:25 [sbp]

<jillium> hiya, redmonk!

15:44:53 [Ash]

<jillium> # sbppppp!

15:44:56 [Ash]

hehe

15:45:03 [Ash]

SEE?

15:45:05 [jillium]

* jillium listens to Sting for the first time in years.

15:45:10 [Ash]

STING!

15:45:17 [Ash]

Hello, Mr. Sting!

15:45:54 [redmonk]

Sting is cool, but not much past Nothing Like The Sun

15:46:00 [redmonk]

"My Mistress' eyes,

15:46:07 [jillium]

yeah, he really got boring boring boring after that.

15:46:11 [redmonk]

are nothing like the sun"

15:46:32 [sbp]

* sbp tries to work out Midnight Moonlight again

15:46:33 [jillium]

* jillium wants it known that that was not an actual quote deely, so she didn't fuck with it.

15:46:45 [sbp]

heh, heh

15:46:54 [redmonk]

jillium: you're fine

15:47:02 [jillium]

fine? I'm coooool!

15:47:15 [jillium]

* jillium is feeling insecure at the moment, so needs to assert that. :-)

15:48:23 [rik]

* rik wraps paws around jill

15:48:40 [jillium]

* jillium looks at rik's tiny paws.

15:48:48 [jillium]

* jillium pets rik.

15:48:49 [sbp]

bugger it. it's so annoying to have worked out a song and then completely forgotten it

15:48:51 [rik]

* rik mews enderaingly but comfortingly

15:48:54 [redmonk]

hey - size doesn't matter!

15:49:02 [redmonk]

sbp: heh

15:54:05 [jillium]

"Turn on the radio/The static hurts my ears./Tell me, where would I go?/I ain't been out in years.

15:54:07 [jillium]

"

15:54:35 [jillium]

* jillium dances. Sting is better live than in studio.

15:54:36 [redmonk]

"that god damn radio song."

15:55:03 [redmonk]

"i turned up the radio, but i can't hear it"

15:55:05 [jillium]

"All our children grow up prisoners./All their life, *radio listeners*!"

15:55:14 [redmonk]

wooohoooo!!!!!!

15:55:25 [redmonk]

* redmonk dances

15:55:48 [sbp]

* sbp has most of the intro, verse, and chorus

15:56:22 [sbp]

and then there's that fingerpicking bit, which isn't in the Swan Song version I've heard... Hmm...

15:56:50 [jillium]

Wait, which song is Midnight Moonlight?

15:57:10 [sbp]

it's by the Firm, based on an unreleased Zep song called Swan Song

15:57:23 [sbp]

it's one of the modal-D tuned songs

15:57:55 [sbp]

.google "Swan Song" "Midnight Moonlight"

15:58:02 [xena]

"Swan Song" "Midnight Moonlight": http://rootnode.org/viewtopic.php?forum=1&topic=173

16:00:41 [redmonk]

"Swan Swan Hummingbird... hurrah, we're all free now!"

16:00:53 [redmonk]

"what noisy cats are we"

16:10:27 [redmonk]

just found out today is drug-testing day, woohoo.

16:11:01 [sbp]

ooh, neat

16:11:39 [sbp]

just what you need when you at work, a bit of prodding and probing

16:11:53 [sbp]

s/you/you're/

16:12:28 [redmonk]

mmmm, prodding

16:13:42 [sbp]

Marge: How was your day at work, dear?

16:13:44 [sbp]

Homer: Oh, the usual. Stand in front of this, open that, pull down this, bend over, spread apart that, turn your head that way, cough.

16:13:51 [jillium]

* jillium laughs.

16:13:55 [redmonk]

heh

16:14:35 [redmonk]

on a not-really-related-but-humerous-note...

16:15:08 [sbp]

sorry mate, laughter's been banned. take it elsewhere

16:15:11 [redmonk]

my brother is about to marry a girl whose father is both an ex-SEAL and a current rectal/colon doctor

16:15:30 [redmonk]

Bob is being VERY NICE to his future father in law

16:15:31 [sbp]

wow

16:16:13 [jillium]

* jillium hopes she doesn't kill anyone before her breakfast finishes heating.

16:16:18 [jillium]

* jillium is ravenous.

16:16:27 [sbp]

heh, that must have been scary: "so, what does your father do?"

16:16:40 [sbp]

a part of me feels that Jill really would kill for food

16:16:47 [sbp]

I'd better have plenty of rolls for the picnic

16:17:01 [redmonk]

which part of you?

16:17:10 [sbp]

all of me

16:17:28 [redmonk]

* redmonk gulps water in preparation for drug test

16:17:47 [redmonk]

* redmonk wonders if caffeine shows up on those things

16:17:53 [sbp]

lol

16:18:15 [redmonk]

"mr. ivy, we've determined that you're blood is only 12% plasma. the rest seems to be sugar and caffeine."

16:18:24 [redmonk]

s/you're/your/

16:18:30 [sbp]

argh, I was just about to do that joke!

16:18:42 [redmonk]

ha!

16:18:49 [sbp]

except I was going to say 110% caffeince, because I'm out there

16:18:55 [redmonk]

pre-emptive humor

16:19:01 [sbp]

indeed

16:19:24 [redmonk]

redmonk has changed the topic to: <sbp> argh, I was just about to do that joke!

16:19:41 [sbp]

Jill reminds me of:-

16:19:52 [sbp]

Homer: I'd kill everyone in this room for a drop of sweet beer.

16:20:07 [redmonk]

heh

16:20:17 [sbp]

that topic should be a swhack motto

16:20:29 [redmonk]

FAQ-it

16:20:37 [deltab]

I was just about to suggest that!

16:20:44 [deltab]

:-)

16:20:47 [sbp]

yeah. the FAQ certainly does need updating

16:20:49 [sbp]

heh, heh

16:20:55 [jillium]

jillium has changed the topic to: <sbp> a part of me feels that Jill really would kill for food

16:20:56 [redmonk]

* redmonk practices his spidey precognition

16:21:22 [jillium]

* jillium has food now. At ease, folks.

16:21:29 [sbp]

phew

16:21:52 [redmonk]

*whew*

16:22:35 [jillium]

mmmmmmmmm...hot ricey gingery goodness...

16:23:06 [sbp]

Hall hath no fury like a Jill hungry

16:23:17 [jillium]

hall?

16:23:24 [davb]

you need a FAQbot

16:23:32 [sbp]

yeah. you know, the old hall brewery

16:23:45 [sbp]

frikkin typos

16:24:18 [sbp]

what would an FAQ bot do? just an infobot?

16:24:36 [redmonk]

just like chump but it would add to the faq

16:24:41 [davb]

Update the FAQ

16:24:44 [redmonk]

and you could ask it

16:24:55 [redmonk]

to tell you the answer to a particular faq

16:25:05 [redmonk]

so when xoot says "what's swhack"

16:25:09 [sbp]

hey, that's not such a spectacularly idiotic and absurd idea as it sounds

16:25:15 [davb]

so I guess it is mostly an infotbot.

16:25:18 [redmonk]

you can have the faqbot learn him

16:25:20 [sbp]

I might just hack one up later

16:27:54 [jillium]

* jillium falls down...zzzz..

16:28:25 [sbp]

.time PST

16:28:27 [xena]

May 7, 2002 9:28 am US/Pacific

16:28:34 [sbp]

coffee!

16:30:06 [sbp]

I wonder what a coffee and coke would take like? sewage, probably

16:30:13 [sbp]

s/take/taste/

16:30:14 [redmonk]

um, yeah

16:36:23 [Ash]

yuck

16:36:46 [sbp]

perhaps it would be better with a slice of lemon

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16:55:30 [pixel]

hi morbus.

16:58:54 [sbp]

Gotta run

17:12:26 [Morbus]

hey all.

17:18:15 [redmonk]

morbus!

17:19:11 [Morbus]

monk!

17:20:26 [redmonk]

sup?

17:20:43 [Morbus]

nothing, nothing.

17:20:48 [Morbus]

just installed spamassassin. happy with it. a lot.

17:21:55 [redmonk]

cool

17:22:11 [redmonk]

.google spamassassin

17:22:14 [xena]

spamassassin: http://spamassassin.org/

17:22:51 [redmonk]

on os x/

17:22:52 [redmonk]

?

17:22:58 [redmonk]

how is ist used?

17:24:04 [Morbus]

its possible to use on os x, but i installed it on my suse server.

17:24:09 [redmonk]

ah

17:24:11 [redmonk]

cool

17:24:15 [Morbus]

i just have it in procmail, and it checks each message.

17:24:19 [Morbus]

i went from about 30 a day, to zero.

17:24:25 [Morbus]

and no false positives as of yet (still checking)

17:24:41 [redmonk]

i still need to setup procmail

17:24:53 [redmonk]

keep meaning to

17:25:04 [Morbus]

i love procmail.

17:25:43 [sbp]

* sbp waves

17:26:14 [Morbus]

hey sean.

17:27:35 [jillium]

* jillium wakes up again. Hello, Morbus!

17:28:11 [sbp]

Hi Morbus, Jill

17:28:34 [jillium]

Hello, Sean-san.

17:28:44 [sbp]

:-)

17:29:04 [sbp]

Swahck goes oriental!

17:30:52 [Morbus]

jillium!

17:30:58 [Morbus]

hey! guess what jillium?!

17:31:01 [jillium]

Morrrrrbus!

17:31:03 [jillium]

what's up?

17:31:26 [Morbus]

see, listen, i just got this new cd today. mp3 cd, right? yeah, Moby's Play! that means I have three of his complete CDs, EXCEPT FOR THIS ONE CD which I AM MISSING one SONG FROM.

17:31:26 [sbp]

heh. I just realised that Morbus is totally unpredictable

17:31:31 [Morbus]

COUGH, COUGH, HINT, HINT!

17:31:39 [Morbus]

moi? totally unpredicatable? naaaaah.

17:31:45 [pixel]

which song are you missing?

17:31:50 [jillium]

No, I think that was actually rather predictable.

17:31:54 [Morbus]

you don't have i ton your home machine.

17:32:04 [Morbus]

its have you seen my baby. track 9 of his self-titled debut

17:32:09 [jillium]

No, but I was just thinking of heading to work.

17:32:27 [jillium]

* jillium goes to wash up her dishes.

17:32:34 [Morbus]

arggggh

17:32:48 [sbp]

Morb: can't you get it from AG?

17:32:59 [pixel]

damn. I need to get that whole CD too.

17:33:01 [Morbus]

been searching for four months now.

17:33:10 [Morbus]

its not there.

17:33:15 [pixel]

hold on. I'll see if I can find it. brb.

17:33:26 [sbp]

I can't believe they wouldn't have it

17:33:58 [Morbus]

do a search! they only have remixes.

17:34:08 [Morbus]

and one that's been filtered.

17:35:38 [jillium]

* jillium puts on bicycling clothes.

17:35:58 [sbp]

wow, you're right

17:35:58 [sbp]

yay! http://elara.sasked.gov.sk.ca/cgi-bin/forum/wwwboard.cgi?Smsg=1&Sind=&DisF=1&Subject=ela&Keyword=&Page=0&PageLimit=50&Parent=1587

17:36:13 [sbp]

another triumph for GET over POST

17:37:08 [Morbus]

heh, heh.

17:46:08 [Morbus]

kickass.

17:46:12 [Morbus]

no fositives on spamassassin

17:46:38 [sbp]

whee! fositives!

17:50:44 [jillium]

* jillium straightens her room and makes her bed.

17:52:25 [Morbus]

* Morbus grumbles

17:52:32 [sbp]

It's household chore day on Swhack!

17:53:29 [sbp]

* sbp takes some plates out

17:54:01 [jillium]

* jillium retrieves today's letters.

17:54:05 [sbp]

* sbp disposes of some rubbish

17:55:11 [Morbus]

* Morbus organizes his mp3 collection.

17:55:21 [Morbus]

* Morbus glares in jillium's direction.

17:55:21 [jillium]

* jillium laughs at a solicitation requesting that she exchange frequent flier miles for magazine subscriptions.

17:55:36 [jillium]

Morbus: but this is all for you!

17:56:40 [Morbus]

uh huh. i've heard that before.

17:56:43 [jillium]

The sooner I get this done, the sooner I can go to work.

17:58:30 [sbp]

right, well, that's it

17:58:33 [sbp]

.time BST

17:58:34 [xena]

May 7, 2002 6:58 pm GMT+1

17:58:54 [sbp]

it's time, ladies and... well, !(ladies), for...

17:58:57 [sbp]

The Simpsons!

17:59:10 [sbp]

and I bid you all a temporary farewell and best regards for the day ahead

17:59:16 [sbp]

Gotta run

18:00:11 [jillium]

farewell, sbp!

18:01:54 [jillium]

* jillium runs the vacuum cleaner.

18:09:19 [jillium]

* jillium sets a timer and sits down to meditate.

18:12:51 [Morbus]

* Morbus sharpens a knife.

18:13:12 [redmonk]

* everyone abuses /me

18:13:25 [Morbus]

* doesn't think this is much better

18:13:53 [redmonk]

no, but i can't do "/me" and get "* everyone"

18:14:08 [redmonk]

which was the intended effect

18:14:16 [redmonk]

heh

18:14:43 [redmonk]

OptimizeIt is really cool

18:15:55 [Ash]

so does anyone have any web-based cooperative development tools they like especially?

18:16:02 [Ash]

I'm looking for something to augment my bugzilla usage

18:16:15 [Ash]

* Ash says HI MORBAS!

18:16:24 [Ash]

* Ash says jillium, how are you doing?

18:16:25 [Ash]

hehe

18:16:29 [Ash]

*hides*

18:16:38 [Morbus]

OptimizeIt?

18:16:50 [Ash]

?

18:17:23 [Seth]

Seth has quit ()

18:17:28 [redmonk]

Borland's java optimization and profiling tool

18:18:09 [redmonk]

i'm hunting leaks

18:26:29 [walloper]

<lilo> Hi all. Services will be shutting down momentarily while we resituate it. Note to kiddies: timed kline facilities are no longer managed by services, but by the individual servers.

18:26:29 [redmonk]

redmonk has quit (Remote closed the connection)

18:27:54 [walloper]

<lilo> (note: all klines on OPN are global)

18:34:03 [jillium]

* jillium waves.

18:34:09 [jillium]

hello, ash.

18:47:08 [jillium]

* jillium mutters about having injured a neck muscle sneezing.

18:49:45 [walloper]

<lilo> Reminder. Services is down, currently being moved to a couple of new servers. Please bear with us.

18:50:20 [walloper]

<lilo> (Kiddie disclaimer: Timed klines are global and are handled by the servers, not services.)

18:52:55 [walloper]

<lilo> Services is back.

18:54:28 [Morbus]

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19:00:47 [davb]

davb has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer))

19:01:39 [davb]

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19:42:54 [redmonk]

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19:43:23 [redmonk]

*BAMPH*

19:43:25 [redmonk]

* redmonk appears

20:03:06 [sbp]

* sbp waves

20:03:29 [sbp]

* sbp wonders how many necks Jillium has

20:03:43 [sbp]

BTW, I don't subscribe to the action abuse nonsense

20:04:04 [sbp]

as long as the first word is a verb, that's fine, I reckon

20:04:08 [davb]

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20:05:37 [sbp]

heh, redmonk's appearance was great

20:07:30 [krivi]

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20:07:51 [sbp]

hey there krivi

20:08:08 [sbp]

* sbp listens to Jimmy Page's performance of White Summer on the Julie Felix show

20:08:12 [krivi]

hi

20:09:53 [redmonk]

heeh. neat trick, huh sbp?

20:10:42 [krivi]

is there a different betwen machine code in intel and AMD procesor?

20:11:58 [sbp]

.google "Machine Code" Intel AMD

20:11:59 [xena]

"Machine Code" Intel AMD: http://www.compaq.com/fortran/docs/vf-html/pg/pgtarchi.htm

20:12:17 [lilo]

[GlobalNotice] Hi all. Just a reminder. OPN is in urgent need of new, reliable servers for our main rotation. We're in particular need of public leaf servers on T3 or better. Actual bandwidth requirements are considerably lower, and can be found along with requirements on http://openprojects.net/sponsoring_servers.shtml . If you're interesting in helping, please take a look and email me at lilo@openprojects.net! Thanks.

20:12:18 [krivi]

ok

20:13:50 [AaronSw-HI-US]

howdy

20:13:56 [sbp]

Hey there Aaron

20:14:04 [AaronSw-HI-US]

hello

20:19:52 [quasi]

hi

20:20:02 [krivi]

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20:22:50 [redmonk]

aaron!

20:22:52 [redmonk]

howdy

20:36:13 [Morbus]

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20:37:50 [sbp]

Hey there Morbus

20:38:22 [in{_\u-r\_}e[y]e]

in{_\u-r\_}e[y]e (~redak@cha213245076010.chello.fr) has joined #swhack

20:38:25 [www2002]

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20:38:27 [www2002]

www2002 is now known as AaronSw

20:38:32 [sbp]

erm...

20:38:32 [AaronSw]

AaronSw is now known as AaronSw-www2002

20:38:45 [AaronSw-www2002]

stupid machine crashed

20:38:51 [AaronSw-www2002]

i think it was the open source wireless car

20:38:51 [sbp]

Hi there Aaron

20:38:53 [redmonk]

doh

20:38:57 [in{_\u-r\_}e[y]e]

in{_\u-r\_}e[y]e is now known as Cc0d3r

20:39:54 [Cc0d3r]

Cc0d3r is now known as \B0MB3RS\

20:40:50 [sbp]

[sound of Aaron wandering off to a new iMac]

20:41:03 [Morbus]

hey sbp.

20:41:25 [DkD[aw]

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20:42:07 [AaronSw-www2002]

i'm back

20:42:08 [AaronSw-www2002]

it's cool

20:43:35 [AaronSw-www2002]

hm, this version of snak sorts by voice

20:43:37 [AaronSw-www2002]

and sbp is voiced

20:43:46 [sbp]

whoops

20:44:31 [sbp]

I wonder when that happened...

20:44:50 [AaronSw-www2002]

laptop deletes some temp nodes

20:45:39 [AaronSw-www2002]

sbp, did you try that demo yet? I was thinking about working on it today since there's nothing going on

20:45:42 [AaronSw-www2002]

well, just keysinging

20:46:00 [sbp]

heh: insecure keysigning

20:46:02 [sbp]

not yet

20:46:38 [sbp]

ooh, when it's possible to convert inanimate objects to series of bytes, we can digitally sign them!

20:46:38 [\B0MB3RS\]

\B0MB3RS\ is now known as s3rh4t

20:46:46 [sbp]

and hash them

20:46:48 [AaronSw-www2002]

ooh, that'd rock

20:48:11 [Morbus]

[[[

20:48:12 [Morbus]

[16:48] <jano> one mome

20:48:12 [Morbus]

[16:48] <Morbus> is that a bad meme?

20:48:12 [Morbus]

]]]

20:48:32 [AaronSw-www2002]

"and the mome raths outgrabe"

20:48:35 [Morbus]

i've used mozilla stead\ily for two weeks in a row, and i must say, I'm happy with it.

20:48:36 [sbp]

heh

20:48:38 [AaronSw-www2002]

so it's a type of rath

20:50:54 [s3rh4t]

s3rh4t is now known as d3s1gn

20:53:01 [quasi]

.time CEST

20:53:02 [xena]

May 7, 2002 10:53 pm GMT+2

20:53:28 [AaronSw-www2002]

12 hrs difference from here

20:54:30 [BenSleep]

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20:54:43 [AaronSw-www2002]

hey BenSleep

20:54:46 [BenSleep]

HI

20:54:49 [AaronSw-www2002]

.time cst

20:54:49 [xena]

May 7, 2002 3:54 pm US/Central

20:54:50 [BenSleep]

BenSleep is now known as BenSw

20:54:50 [AaronSw-www2002]

g'morning

20:54:52 [AaronSw-www2002]

err afternoon

20:55:02 [quasi]

err night ;)

20:55:16 [AaronSw-www2002]

silyl yime aones

20:56:13 [sbp]

that's almost an Ashism. <Ash> SILYL YIME AONES!?!!@

20:58:12 [sbp]

what?!

20:58:18 [AaronSw-www2002]

heh

20:58:42 [sbp]

* sbp thwaps ChanServ

21:05:08 [BenSw]

query AaronSw-www2002

21:05:11 [BenSw]

shoot

21:07:26 [redmonk]

redmonk has quit (Remote closed the connection)

21:09:17 [AaronSw-www2002]

argh, crashed on wirelrdd ftibrt

21:09:39 [AaronSw-www2002]

err wireless driver

21:09:44 [Morbus]

Morbus has quit ("http://www.disobey.com/")

21:09:46 [AaronSw-www2002]

now it's checking disk again

21:10:08 [AaronSw-www2002]

i'll probably be here all day at this rate

21:10:53 [AaronSw-www2002]

<sigh />

21:18:26 [BenSw]

--

21:18:34 [BenSw]

Refurbished PowerMac G4/450 Dual for $1,199

21:18:35 [BenSw]

5:00 am ET, May 7, 2002

21:18:36 [BenSw]

MacResQ has stock of the reseller-refurbished PowerMac G4/450 Dual 128/30.0/DVD/56k/Zip/100BT for $1,199. That's $100 less than the best price we've seen for a factory-refurbished unit. A 90-day reseller warranty applies. (A one-year warranty extension costs $99.)

21:18:38 [BenSw]

--

21:18:45 [BenSw]

http://dealmac.com/basement/articles/34807.html

21:18:51 [BenSw]

cool finnaly a cheap g4

21:21:21 [BenSw]

but not a powerbook

21:21:24 [BenSw]

:-(

21:22:36 [AaronSw-www2002]

heh, on inkwell: "You'd think that hundreds of millions of dollars on Newton technology would get us something," Jobs said.

21:23:13 [BenSw]

Heh

21:26:49 [AaronSw-www2002]

heh!

21:27:05 [AaronSw-www2002]

re: autumn/fall... [sticks out leg to trip someone] have a nice trip! see you next fall

21:27:26 [jillzilla]

* jillzilla tumbles. D'ohh!

21:27:30 [jillzilla]

Argh!

21:27:32 [jillzilla]

:-)

21:28:04 [jillzilla]

query AaronSw-www2002

21:28:07 [AaronSw-www2002]

:-)

21:28:07 [jillzilla]

oops.

21:28:11 [jillzilla]

heehehehehehehe

21:28:13 [Ash]

JILLZILLA

21:28:16 [jillzilla]

ASH

21:28:23 [AaronSw-www2002]

I woner if ssh works on here...

21:28:30 [Ash]

* Ash flies around jillzilla supersonic-style

21:28:32 [Ash]

er

21:28:35 [Ash]

s/supersonic/rodan/

21:28:53 [jillzilla]

aieee.

21:28:58 [jillzilla]

* jillzilla sedates ash.

21:29:00 [Ash]

if you have seen the movie 'Rodan' you get 5 points

21:30:45 [jillzilla]

no points for me.

21:31:26 [walloper]

<lilo`> Problems with services; we'll keep you posted.

21:32:09 [walloper]

<lilo> We'll probably be reverting to the backup taken today before the initial move.

21:32:10 [jillzilla]

* jillzilla wonders what the hell she is doing.

21:34:04 [quasi]

Ash: are we talking about http://us.imdb.com/Title?0049782

21:35:51 [jillzilla]

Oh, I love the review.

21:37:47 [quasi]

Tagline: Never a Horror Like It! ;)

21:39:21 [sbp]

* sbp waves

21:40:12 [AaronSw-www2002]

hwody

21:41:05 [Ash]

quasi: Yeah

21:41:33 [AaronSw-www2002]

why would i whip their buts for the president convo?

21:46:24 [AaronSw-www2002]

Ooh, machine might be booting

21:46:25 [BenSw]

BenSw has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer))

21:46:33 [AaronSw-www2002]

* AaronSw-www2002 crosses fingers

21:48:01 [AaronSw-www2002]

woo! it boots

21:48:07 [AaronSw-www2002]

i finished reading logs at: <sbp> oh, I'll bet .meow is one of them

21:48:36 [AaronSw-www2002]

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21:48:48 [www2002]

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21:49:52 [sbp]

ooh, the cool stuff happens after that

21:50:13 [www2002]

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21:50:27 [www2002]

oh bleep it froze again

21:50:37 [www2002]

oh phew, no fsck

21:51:07 [www2002]

aaargh!

21:55:17 [www2002]

aha, can bypass that by doing command-s and then exit

21:55:56 [www2002]

if this thing doesn't work this time...

21:56:22 [www2002]

ah phew

21:57:07 [www2002]

wha?

21:57:10 [www2002]

it just went to sleep on ,e

21:57:17 [justme]

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21:57:18 [sbp]

aw. it must be tired

21:57:23 [justme]

justme has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer))

21:57:40 [www2002]

* www2002 hooks up calorie supply

21:57:46 [www2002]

aha

21:58:17 [www2002]

it crashed agaiN?!?!?!

21:59:02 [sbp]

Hmm... is there a feminine counterpart of the adjective "leonine", or is that gender neutral?

21:59:20 [sbp]

I'll just presume that it is

21:59:22 [jillzilla]

it's gender neutral.

21:59:50 [jillzilla]

And you really don't have to write poetry about me, sbp. :-)

22:00:06 [sbp]

no, I certainly do. I'm updating the FAQ

22:00:22 [jillzilla]

* jillzilla blinks.

22:00:39 [jillzilla]

* jillzilla wonders exactly what's giong into the FAQ.

22:05:12 [www2002]

on Jaguar: 'due in "late summer" (i.e. September 20 or so, going by past practice)'

22:08:30 [www2002]

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22:08:55 [walloper]

<lilo> Should have services back up again in a moment, we hope we've located the problem.

22:09:02 [walloper]

<lilo> Please bear with us.

22:17:38 [syn|ack]

morning #swhack folk

22:18:08 [lilo]

[GlobalNotice] Services is back, we've reverted to the backup as of: May 7 18:30 UTC...it's currently 22:18. We'll be on the lookout for further problems. Thanks for your patience.

22:18:21 [jillzilla]

* jillzilla waves.

22:18:32 [sbp]

Guten morgen

22:19:36 [sbp]

* sbp prods a few people at random

22:19:59 [jillzilla]

* jillzilla squeaks. Quittit.

22:20:39 [jillzilla]

That's my favorite Simpsons moment. Lisa standing next to Bart, who has just had a tattoo removed. She pokes his bandage. He said "Ow! Quit it!" Repeat ad infinitum.

22:21:00 [sbp]

heh, heh

22:21:12 [sbp]

right, new FAQ is on th'Web. I just gave in

22:21:15 [jillzilla]

Do you have siblings, sbp?

22:21:20 [jillzilla]

URI?

22:21:36 [sbp]

the new bits are in eggshell blue

22:21:39 [sbp]

http://infomesh.net/2002/swhackfaq/

22:21:48 [deltab]

URI for the siblings?

22:21:52 [jillzilla]

yes.

22:23:09 [jillzilla]

sbp: You might mention that /me should be followed by a singular third-person verb. Usually in the present or present progressive forms.

22:23:35 [jillzilla]

AIEE!

22:23:54 [sbp]

good point

22:24:22 [jillzilla]

* jillzilla folds her arms and sulks HARD.

22:25:09 [sbp]

heh, heh. I guess you like the little augmentation

22:25:18 [jillzilla]

* jillzilla turns her back.

22:26:05 [sbp]

well, personally, I think it's great advice... :-)

22:30:22 [d3s1gn]

d3s1gn is now known as B0MB3R

22:40:12 [sbp]

* sbp deaugments

22:43:58 [jillzilla]

* jillzilla sighs.

22:46:01 [sbp]

* sbp thwaps his connection

22:51:58 [Ash]

* Ash THWAPS

22:52:07 [Ash]

What are you sulking about, jillzilla ?

22:52:31 [jillzilla]

* jillzilla is finished sulking.

22:52:45 [jillzilla]

ALL DONE!

22:53:02 [Ash]

My daughter says 'all done!!!' a lot.

22:53:10 [Ash]

We pulled into the driveway yesterday

22:53:13 [Ash]

stop the car

22:53:20 [Ash]

she says "ALL DONE ALL DONE ALL DONE!!!"

22:53:39 [Ash]

It was *really* funny

22:53:57 [jillzilla]

Heh. I remember once several years ago...my sweetie asked me if he could have...I don't remember what, but I remember I said, "Nonononono! It's *mine*!"

22:54:16 [jillzilla]

And then I stopped, and thought a moment, and said, "You'll have to excuse me. I was just four for a moment."

22:54:39 [walloper]

<misato> hi again all... services are back down... as soon as we know what the problem is and have it back up, we'll let everyone know through wallops. If you are tired of hearing us yap... type /mode nick -w

22:54:40 [jillzilla]

He liked that, and we decided that everyone should have a display for their mental age of the moment.

22:54:48 [Ash]

/MODE NICK -W!!

22:54:51 [Ash]

SHUT UP WALLOPER

22:54:52 [Ash]

hehe

22:54:55 [Ash]

walloper: go away

22:55:01 [Ash]

Aww man.

22:55:04 [jillzilla]

we do get a shocking lot of wallops.

22:55:04 [Ash]

Didn't work :-(

22:55:15 [jillzilla]

* jillzilla glares at walloper for interrupting her story.

22:55:18 [Ash]

jillzilla: What's shocking is that half of them are "GIVE US TEH MONEYS!!!"

22:55:25 [Ash]

I don't seem to get those on EFnet!

22:55:29 [Ash]

opn losers

22:56:03 [jillzilla]

Heh. You know, when I said ALL DONE, I was trying to evoke a really little kid. :-)

22:56:21 [jillzilla]

* jillzilla returns to her more usual mental age.

22:57:52 [jillzilla]

Argh, this script is so messed up. And I wrote it.

22:58:56 [Morbus]

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23:00:46 [sbp]

sbp has changed the topic to: Home of fescennine poetry galore

23:01:33 [Ash]

Ash has changed the topic to: Home of fescennine poetry galore (Don't tell Morbus that fescennine means "pornographic midgets", ok?)

23:03:18 [BenSw|AC]

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23:03:28 [BenSw|AC]

Hello

23:03:31 [sbp]

topic = topic.lstrip()

23:03:44 [Morbus]

heh, heh.

23:04:24 [Morbus]

i'm working on my apache article.

23:05:33 [jillzilla]

eek!

23:05:35 [jillzilla]

Morbus!

23:05:42 [jillzilla]

* jillzilla whimpers.

23:05:46 [Morbus]

jillzilla. what awaits my inbox?

23:05:57 [jillzilla]

I really have to get this script working before I install ripping software.

23:06:01 [jillzilla]

aieeee....

23:06:07 [jillzilla]

* jillzilla hides.

23:06:09 [sbp]

BTW, Morbus, I didn't get your message from days ago

23:06:10 [Morbus]

* Morbus smacks his head.

23:06:13 [Morbus]

yah, well, you suck.

23:06:17 [Morbus]

* Morbus shrugs.

23:06:24 [jillzilla]

Morbus: which of us?

23:06:30 [Morbus]

everyone! whee.

23:06:38 [jillzilla]

Morbus: I could pull the raw bits off the cd...

23:06:53 [jillzilla]

Morbus: this is what you get for having lamer friends.

23:06:58 [Morbus]

how about you just send me the cd. it'll get done faster this way ;)

23:07:04 [jillzilla]

* jillzilla is tempted.

23:07:12 [jillzilla]

You would rip it and send me the mp3s?

23:07:43 [AaronSw-HI-US]

wow, i'm actually back

23:07:52 [jillzilla]

* jillzilla remembers that postage would cost almost as much as a used copy.

23:07:56 [jillzilla]

hey, AaronSw.

23:08:00 [Morbus]

hey AaronSw-HI-US.

23:08:01 [AaronSw-HI-US]

woo, edd signed my key

23:08:19 [Morbus]

* Morbus groans.

23:08:22 [sbp]

cool

23:08:22 [jillzilla]

pssst, Morbus -- it's actually AaronSw! He's in disguise.

23:08:33 [Morbus]

tell my <tab> key that./

23:08:48 [jillzilla]

* jillzilla refuses to address Morbus' tab key directly.

23:09:01 [jillzilla]

* jillzilla goes to work on this script so she can rip the moby CD in this lifetime.

23:09:52 [jillzilla]

...instead of next lifetime, when I think I'm scheduled to be a banana slug.

23:09:53 [sbp]

\t? how lazy

23:10:13 [AaronSw-HI-US]

hey jillium, Morbus

23:10:16 [sbp]

sbp has changed the topic to: Home of fescennine poetry galore (Don't tell Morbus that fescennine means "pornographic midgets", ok?)

23:10:26 [sbp]

sorry, that leading space was bugging the feck out of m

23:10:42 [jillzilla]

a leading space leads you to mention pornographic midgets?

23:10:52 [jillzilla]

Jeez, I don't want to think about what a misplaced apostrophe might do.

23:10:58 [sbp]

since when did I mention pornographic midgets?

23:11:20 [jillzilla]

* jillzilla backs slowly away from sbp...

23:11:30 [Morbus]

la la la.

23:11:36 [Morbus]

any UI geeks in here?

23:11:46 [sbp]

23:01:33 <Ash> Ash has changed the topic to: Home of fescennine poetry galore (Don't tell Morbus that fescennine means "pornographic midgets", ok?)

23:11:57 [AaronSw-HI-US]

apparently bijan is here

23:12:00 [AaronSw-HI-US]

err on irc

23:12:19 [sbp]

logster really needs to stop putting in <nick> things where they shouldn't be

23:12:25 [sbp]

I wonder if it's been patched yet?

23:12:58 [jillzilla]

Ohhhhhh...sbp was just correcting the topic.

23:13:15 [jillzilla]

Someone say something witty so I can change the topic!

23:13:35 [AaronSw-HI-US]

lunch w/ t.v. ramen

23:13:41 [Morbus]

heh. gamegrene.com:

23:13:42 [Morbus]

[[[

23:13:42 [Morbus]

Not enough sites use a green theme, I really like it if only for being

23:13:42 [Morbus]

different. That's worth a lot of points to me.

23:13:44 [Morbus]

]]]

23:13:47 [sbp]

wow, when?

23:13:49 [Morbus]

i've gotten that comment *a lot*.

23:14:29 [sbp]

it's probably someone from the Green Council

23:14:58 [Morbus]

nah, I sent out a "I want GG UI improvements" email.

23:15:12 [knifefightx]

knifefightx (knifefight@1Cust219.tnt46.dca5.da.uu.net) has joined #swhack

23:15:30 [knifefightx]

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23:15:36 [sbp]

I'd have been like, "more animated GIFs! and flash!"

23:16:13 [AaronSw-HI-US]

daveb signs key

23:16:23 [sbp]

as for color schemes, you can't go wrong with pink on light green

23:16:39 [Morbus]

heh, heh. thanks sbp ;)

23:16:43 [sbp]

np

23:16:54 [sbp]

that'll be $50 for consulting

23:17:23 [sbp]

you're lucky that I didn't suggest you use HAX0R-speek: that'd have bumped it up to $100

23:18:54 [AaronSw-HI-US]

* AaronSw-HI-US takes codepiction of aaronsw-carroll, edd-dajobe

23:19:22 [sbp]

is there one of carroll-edd?

23:19:41 [AaronSw-HI-US]

dunno

23:20:50 [AaronSw-HI-US]

oh, lunch w/ rohit too

23:21:06 [sbp]

coming up, or just gone?

23:21:11 [AaronSw-HI-US]

gone

23:21:12 [AaronSw-HI-US]

haven't seen em yet

23:21:26 [sbp]

er...

23:21:49 [sbp]

I mean, did you have lunch, or are you about to have lunch? I'll take the latter, though

23:22:02 [AaronSw-HI-US]

no, i had lunch

23:22:05 [AaronSw-HI-US]

with t.v. ramen and bijan

23:22:11 [AaronSw-HI-US]

s/bijan/rohit

23:22:14 [sbp]

oh, heh!

23:22:18 [sbp]

haven't seen *em* yet

23:22:24 [AaronSw-HI-US]

yes

23:22:28 [sbp]

dear me...

23:22:28 [AaronSw-HI-US]

:-)

23:22:47 [sbp]

* sbp reads to many apostrophes into things

23:22:55 [Morbus]

* Morbus makes some tea.

23:22:58 [AaronSw-HI-US]

em!

23:23:02 [Morbus]

* Morbus does everything he can to not work on this article.

23:23:04 [Morbus]

* Morbus sighs.

23:23:07 [Morbus]

* Morbus abuses /me.

23:23:13 [AaronSw-HI-US]

em shakes hand

23:23:13 [sbp]

heh, heh

23:23:21 [Morbus]

* Morbus waves to em.

23:23:26 [sbp]

he's there? neat

23:23:29 [Morbus]

* Morbus tapsem on the shoulder.

23:23:43 [Morbus]

hmm. emmm!

23:23:44 [Morbus]

dammit.

23:23:47 [Morbus]

* Morbus taps harder.

23:23:47 [sbp]

* sbp waves too, doubtful that AaronSw will pass the actions on

23:23:54 [Morbus]

sigh. no one pays attention to me./

23:24:06 [jillzilla]

Morbus: You can tap me on the shoulders.

23:24:21 [Morbus]

can I tap other portions of your body?

23:24:32 [jillzilla]

my neck.

23:24:52 [sbp]

that reminds me...

23:24:55 [jillzilla]

God, I'm so useless when I have allergies...

23:25:00 [jillzilla]

* jillzilla feels like crying.

23:25:08 [Morbus]

* Morbus coddles jillzilla.

23:25:14 [sbp]

18:47:08 <jillium> * jillium mutters about having injured a neck muscle sneezing.

23:25:32 [Morbus]

awwww.

23:25:35 [sbp]

oh, actually, now that I read it again, it all makes sense

23:25:44 [Morbus]

here's how to fix it jillzilla: turn around, and sneeze again.

23:25:49 [Morbus]

that'll snap your neck back inthe other direction.

23:25:51 [Morbus]

you'll be all set.

23:25:52 [sbp]

I should have read on like a word

23:26:28 [jillzilla]

* jillzilla grins at the advice and appreciates the coddling and sbp's excellent memory.

23:26:57 [B0MB3R]

B0MB3R is now known as \B0MB3RS\

23:27:23 [Morbus]

.nickometer \B0MB3RS\

23:27:23 [xena]

\B0MB3RS\ has 33% lameness

23:27:30 [Morbus]

really? man, that's broken.

23:27:49 [sbp]

.nickometer in{_\u-r\_}e[y]e

23:27:50 [xena]

in{_\u-r\_}e[y]e has 12% lameness

23:27:53 [sbp]

what?!

23:27:58 [Morbus]

uhhh.

23:28:04 [Morbus]

.nickometer AaronSw-HI-US

23:28:05 [xena]

AaronSw-HI-US has 23% lameness

23:28:08 [sbp]

heh, heh

23:28:09 [Morbus]

lol.

23:30:29 [jillzilla]

.nickometer SBP!@!@!!!@

23:30:30 [xena]

SBP!@!@!!!@ has 0% lameness

23:30:34 [jillzilla]

well.

23:30:50 [Morbus]

.nickometer jillzilla-sat-on-my-hardness

23:30:50 [xena]

jillzilla-sat-on-my-hardness has 0% lameness

23:30:54 [Morbus]

yeaaaaah.

23:31:03 [Morbus]

see, jillzilla! having sex with me is 'reet!

23:31:24 [jillzilla]

* jillzilla blinks. Oh, god.

23:31:34 [jillzilla]

* jillzilla decides to take allergy medication to blot this out.

23:31:35 [sbp]

ooh, xena agrees. it must be true

23:32:01 [AaronSw-HI-US]

wow, pepper 4.0

23:32:17 [Morbus]

heh, no blotting, jillzilla!

23:32:24 [Morbus]

i like seeing you covered in m... uh. y'know.

23:32:42 [Morbus]

i shall twist all that you say, for God has decreed me Morbus (tm).

23:32:59 [AaronSw-HI-US]

Ooh, Pepper is out for windows

23:33:17 [Morbus]

yah, i noticed that.

23:33:29 [Ash]

PEPPER

23:33:33 [Ash]

.google pepper sucks

23:33:34 [xena]

pepper sucks: http://www.englishmajor.com/pepper.html

23:33:39 [Ash]

What's Pepper?

23:33:45 [Ash]

Is that the editor from the Pe guy?

23:33:48 [AaronSw-HI-US]

yeah

23:33:49 [AaronSw-HI-US]

it rocks

23:33:51 [Ash]

Pe kicked ass

23:33:53 [Ash]

is Pepper free?

23:33:54 [Ash]

hehe

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23:34:01 [AaronSw-HI-US]

mostly free

23:34:06 [Ash]

hehe

23:34:36 [Ash]

I miss BeOS :-(

23:34:44 [Morbus]

OpenBeOS is looking for a name change.

23:34:53 [Ash]

How's OpenBeOS coming along?

23:34:59 [Ash]

Is that the one they're building on top of linux?

23:35:01 [Ash]

TEH LUNIX

23:35:12 [walloper]

<misato> hi everyone, services is back up for the time being. Have a good evening on Open Projects Network.

23:35:39 [jillzilla]

s/for the time being/for the next microsecond/;

23:36:16 [sbp]

* sbp returns with food

23:36:53 [Ash]

* Ash shoots OPN

23:37:10 [jillzilla]

Ash: You do realize you could easily be free of OPN, right?

23:37:18 [sbp]

Hmm... Ash, do you not like OPN, or something?

23:38:07 [AaronSw-HI-US]

MarkB says tinderbox os x on june 1

23:38:47 [Ash]

jillzilla: OPN has its good points (like not requiring ident) but it's one of the most unstable IRC networks I've been on

23:38:53 [jillzilla]

* jillzilla sends Morbus her inflatable lookalike.

23:38:56 [AaronSw-HI-US]

jill, where's your mom? http://www.google.com/moms/

23:39:04 [Ash]

Unfortunately I can't exactly just eject, since there are a ton of really cool people here.

23:39:05 [Ash]

Hehehe.

23:39:05 [Morbus]

whoo hoo!

23:39:14 [jillzilla]

AaronSw-HI-US: I haven't submitted a picture.

23:39:50 [AaronSw-HI-US]

Hmph.

23:40:11 [Ash]

http://www.google.com/moms/19.jpg <- jillzilla's mom

23:40:16 [sbp]

* sbp wonders why Jill has an inflatable lookalike of hers hanging around the house

23:40:17 [AaronSw-HI-US]

chaals wonders what sbp's up to?

23:40:27 [sbp]

* sbp wonders what chaals is up to

23:40:40 [AaronSw-HI-US]

<chaals> trying to work out when to reedit XAG

23:40:46 [AaronSw-HI-US]

... probably next week

23:40:57 [jillzilla]

* jillzilla wants to teleport sbp to Hawaii.

23:40:58 [sbp]

yep, that sounds sensible

23:41:07 [sbp]

I guess it should have been done sooner... my bad

23:41:17 [sbp]

Hmm... we could do with an issues list

23:41:19 [AaronSw-HI-US]

<chaals> i don't do any work

23:43:32 [walloper]

<lilo> Hi all. We're debugging. Probably failure mode next time for services is that it freezes up; if so, let staff know. Thanks.

23:44:32 [sbp]

ugh, HTTP is really screwed over my connection. I don't know what's up with it

23:45:20 [sbp]

google.com, w3.org, and web.archive.org are all blown

23:45:27 [sbp]

but aaronsw.com and bartleby.com work

23:46:15 [AaronSw-HI-US]

<chaals> have you met my mum? [...] i'm one of the few people left that i know of whose working with their mum

23:46:56 [AaronSw-HI-US]

apparently she's giving a tutorial on accessibiliuty

23:47:06 [sbp]

wow, cool

23:47:45 [jillzilla]

I got to see accessibility in action the other day.

23:48:23 [jillzilla]

My friend who was visiting, a former colleague of mine whom I would like to work with again, was visiting. He is blind, and he was using talking-Windows, which I had never seen before.

23:48:26 [jillzilla]

It was pretty cool.

23:48:49 [jillzilla]

* jillzilla notes that she has written redundantly.

23:49:38 [sbp]

that's probably due to me - my fault

23:50:02 [AaronSw-HI-US]

<edd> debian rocks [...] anyone who doesn't use it is a loser

23:50:19 [sbp]

.google "debian is out on the rocks"

23:50:20 [xena]

"debian is out on the rocks": no match found

23:57:09 [AaronSw-HI-US]

<edd> (looks out the window) i think i'm abnormal

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