00:00:21 I dunno, Spring might well be an OS by the time Robb's done ;) 00:12:56 Mark Bernstein: "I'm hoping to learn about weblogs from an alife simulator I'm building. In the simulated world, we have 600 little artificial writers (I call them weblets) with 600 artificial weblogs." 00:13:06 - http://markBernstein.org/May0201.html#note_11106 00:13:23 Heh, that's great for the social commentary aspects alone 00:33:24 that reminds me of Tierra 00:34:01 the most successful programs were different kids of viruses 00:34:58 Hypervirus, son of Megavirus 00:38:39 syn|ack (~glova@kaniere.alchemy.co.nz) has joined #swhack 00:38:41 j #rdfig 00:38:45 blarg 00:39:06 how is people today? 00:39:40 hehe for a sec I thought the title was as _Sean_ on Hack The Planet :) 00:39:48 rofl 00:40:11 heh, as if I'd be seen in that sort of dodgy crowd 00:40:57 :):) 01:02:01 wmf, link to Tierra? 01:02:37 .google Tierra Tom Ray 01:02:39 Tierra Tom Ray: http://www.isd.atr.co.jp/~ray/tierra/ 01:11:19 Interesting 01:11:54 So the most effective weblogs are sons of memes? 01:12:06 supah-meme 01:18:26 Seth (~seth@12-230-243-179.client.attbi.com) has joined #swhack 01:24:42 "be sure to find a site/service with a REST-like interface and write some script code to generate some Conceptual Objects for things of interest to you." 01:39:21 redmonk (~steve@ip68-2-102-26.ph.ph.cox.net) has joined #swhack 01:39:53 Hi redmonk 01:40:09 * AaronSw spreads Spring Seeds 01:40:10 redmonk, http://www.usercreations.com/spring/ 01:40:13 hey there 01:40:14 BenSw (~x@12-249-96-16.client.attbi.com) has joined #swhack 01:40:34 AaronSw has changed the topic to: the spring goes boing boing! 01:40:52 heh, heh: http://www.dilbert.com/comics/dilbert/archive/images/dilbert2002050208955.gif 01:41:40 wow, aaron 01:41:43 looks cool 01:42:24 speaking of spring: http://www.snoopy.com/comics/peanuts/archive/images/peanuts2004875520501.gif 01:42:50 BenSw has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 01:43:03 * AaronSw locally archives email 01:43:58 * redmonk watches The Matrix on DVD 01:44:31 ooh, that reminds me, i think i'll watch crouching tiger on the plane 01:45:02 not seen it yet 01:45:10 BenSw (~x@12-249-96-16.client.attbi.com) has joined #swhack 01:46:05 Crouching Tiger rules 01:46:09 was very very cool 01:46:12 Hello 01:46:16 should i watch it on dvd or with the family? 01:46:41 either, both 01:47:34 nivver! 01:47:38 http://media.redmonk.net/collections/sedona/ 01:47:47 ooh 01:48:11 heh: "Big rock thing" 01:51:05 ;-) 01:52:15 Ooh 01:52:32 "Something pretty near a parking lot" 01:53:08 * AaronSw watches redmonk come up with new ways to say Jodi 01:54:05 wmf: frozen in time 01:54:31 but we'll change his pants as fashion dictates 01:54:53 * AaronSw goes back to packing 02:08:16 * redmonk laughs @ "new ways to say jodi" 02:13:07 Hm, wonder if I should take my Wifi base station 02:13:14 dad'll probably kill me if i do 02:13:29 and apparently you can get wifi from the beach 02:13:57 that is so unecessary :) 02:14:11 it's for torturing the folks back home 02:14:25

hey there, i'm on the beach. waves coming in, sun shining down 02:14:43 ah. I see. 02:15:07 I think I'd just write a program to log in, and say I was at the beach, so I didn't need to bring my computer. 02:15:15 heh heh 02:15:23 davb is now known as davb-beach 02:15:29 heh 02:15:32 Wow, it _is_ really nice at the beach. 02:15:47 davb-beach is now known as davb 02:16:42 Hm, what else to pack. 02:17:02 scuba diving paraphenalia 02:17:11 don't have any 02:17:23 make some 02:17:52 * AaronSw sneaks in to ben's room watch "Life of Python" 02:18:13 * redmonk blogs Sedona 02:18:25 * sbp reckons Aaron has the laptop strapped to his waist 02:18:35 "Nobody expects the Spanish inquisition!" 02:18:48 there are *three* things... 02:19:03 heh, I love that sketch 02:19:17 "Rumple tweezer ran the dinky twinky shop..." 02:19:58 Terry: "I had had the most freedom among the group because I couldn't really describe what I was doing until it was all done..." 02:20:54 "The real studio audience stared at them as if they were six pigs playing banjos at a Bar Mitzcah" 02:25:35 "This week I'm going to tell you what to do if there's an armed communist uprising during your party." 02:26:21 BenSw has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 02:30:50 "If you feel you're being funny you cna put up with almost anything" 02:30:57 boing 02:33:09 rowr 02:33:19 hey Jill 02:33:36 South Park dude: "I was about eight years old... it was the dirty little show we weren't supposed to watch" 02:33:49 "was my introduction to humor" 02:34:07 Matt or Trey? 02:34:20 the one on the left 02:34:32 :-) 02:34:40 the one on the right said it made him see humor "in a bigger, better, brighter way" 02:35:06 hi, sbp. 02:35:38 aft'noon ma'am 02:36:01 * jillium bows. 02:36:25 "Energy Compromise Calls for Burning Fossil Fuels, Environmental Activists" 02:37:14 Washington, D.C. - In a troubling sign that investigators may be getting bored with 02:37:15 their success smuggling guns and knives onto airplanes, the U.S. Department of 02:37:15 Transportation today disclosed that its agents have recently cleared airport security checkpoints with an M1 tank, a 02:37:15 beluga whale, and a fully active South American volcano 02:37:18 ARgh. 02:37:34 That's what I get for um...that citeless thing... 02:37:45 citelessness impunity 02:37:50 yes, that. 02:38:02 really bad formatting is what I deserve for that. 02:38:10 http://www.satirewire.com/index.shtml 02:40:06 ooh, email. it had better be good 02:40:29 spam, spam, spam, spam, spam... 02:43:31 everybody should study up on these: 02:43:32 http://www.satirewire.com/charts/chat.shtml 02:43:53 NFW 02:44:06 Heavens. 02:44:13 I've pressed him into all caps! 02:45:02 it's called an acronym. or is it an abbreivation? well, acronyms are always abbreviations... 02:45:24 It's an acronym. 02:45:45 says you! 02:46:04 I do indeed say! 02:46:10 ROWR! 02:46:16 then we're very much agreed 02:46:25 heh. the lioness awakens 02:46:26 excellent! 02:46:33 Did you tell your mother she made me bingle? 02:46:47 ah, not yet. good point, though 02:46:59 * jillium taps her fingers on the desk. 02:47:14 I'm sorry! look, it just slipped my mind. I can't help it 02:47:23 if anything, you should have reminded me sooner 02:47:29 So go wake her up! 02:47:31 - not that I'm passing the buck or anything - 02:47:32 talli (~chatzilla@lti-4.dialup.access.net) has joined #swhack 02:47:55 well, let's not and say that I did 02:48:21 how would that be? 02:48:26 Very well. That will do. 02:48:29 You go first. 02:48:43 * sbp rolls a virtual pair of dice 02:48:48 Snake eyes 02:49:23 * jillium laughs. 02:49:25 @ http://www.satirewire.com/charts/americans.shtml 02:50:00 A: http://www.satirewire.com/charts/americans.shtml from jillium 02:52:19 the Simpsons' Seinfeld zing was funny... 02:52:27 I don't know that one. 03:01:17 A:|Americans: Will they come off it? 03:01:34 titled item A 03:01:57 talli has left #swhack 03:03:48 I think I'm going to do something exotic! 03:04:10 ooh 03:04:16 I'm going to... 03:04:18 ...to... 03:04:21 ...watch television! 03:04:32 the suspense! the anticipation! 03:04:52 I wonder what is on. What day of the week is it? 03:04:57 I wonder what channels we get. 03:05:04 Sunday, for you 03:05:35 oh, no. Doesn't Sunday have crap TV? 03:05:58 no, you're thinking of daytime T.V. 03:06:05 Oh. 03:06:08 Well, wish me luck. 03:06:17 * jillium ventures on. 03:06:26 Try not to get *too* hurt. 03:06:38 or hooked 03:06:42 [Monty Python machine comes out of TV, unscrews jillium's eyeballs] 03:06:50 "Don't you know that TV hurts your eyes??" 03:07:25 [naked woman pops up, and a foot promptly stomps her back down] 03:08:05 they got the foot from Orwell, apparently 03:08:26 'Actually, this has me thinking. A search for "The Flangy News" on MSN search doesn't bring me up anywhere near the front of the hits, even though links to me do come up. Even though obscure links to me do. I guess I was blacklisted when I said Bill Gates needed a haircut.' 03:09:58 "Surfing the web with IE/Windows is like playing Russian roulette, except that the gun has 6 bullets, and there's another gun under the table pointed right at your crotch." 03:10:54 wow, was s/he using IE3 or something? 03:15:39 time for bed...leaving at 6AM 03:15:52 enjoy! 03:15:59 thanks! 03:16:22 don't forget to depress us from the beach 03:16:28 and we want write-ups! 03:16:28 i'll try 03:16:35 of course 03:16:35 hope i've packed everything... 03:16:37 :-) 03:16:56 * AaronSw downloads some more email 03:18:59 cell phone, computer, camera 03:19:21 invisible dog lead 03:19:26 scuba gear! 03:19:27 dog lead? 03:19:36 leash 03:19:44 but i don't have a dog... 03:20:05 well, that's the point. it's an invisible dog leash 03:20:10 oh, right 03:20:16 i've seen those 03:20:55 camcorder? 03:21:08 plane tickets? 03:21:16 what would i use my camcorder for? 03:21:36 got e-tickets ;) 03:21:55 davb has quit ("Client Exiting") 03:22:00 hm, i should grab an ethernet cord 03:22:12 altho the place apparently as wifi 03:22:25 take a bit of T3 cable with you, just in case 03:27:35 Roy Fielding needs a bully pulpit: "There would be no benefit obtained by moving the essential elements of identification from the HTTP request-URI to the HTTP header fields. In fact, any attempt to do so (including DAV versioning) is doomed to failure in the long run because it creates a separate dimension of identification that needs its own access control, etc." 03:28:55 wow, w3.org has recesses now 03:29:29 recess always comes after lunch 03:30:25 Cory has some great lines about papers 03:30:31 hm? 03:30:56 heh: 'FACT: Canadians are more likely to than any other nationality to eat roadkill. In fact, Canadians refer to dead raccoons found on the highway as "Toronto Bologna."' 03:30:58 something about Polish immigrants and waiting in line to show papers 03:31:20 i'll have to ask him week after next 03:31:57 heh, cool: http://www.chipworks.com/art/gallery01.htm 03:33:03 give three reasons why that page is cool, in two words or less 03:33:10 where's waldo 03:33:54 oh, i'm supposed to be sleeping. laters. 03:34:13 heh, heh 03:34:18 c'ya 03:34:25 have fun 03:34:35 thanks. ttyl 03:42:50 .google XHTML SVG MathML site:w3.org 03:42:52 XHTML SVG MathML site:w3.org: http://www.w3.org/ 03:43:03 um... 03:43:08 .google XHTML SVG MathML site:w3.org TR 03:43:10 XHTML SVG MathML site:w3.org TR: http://www.w3.org/TR/XHTMLplusMathMLplusSVG/ 04:00:02 Gotta run 04:07:51 redmonk has quit ("cya") 05:12:08 wmf has quit ("BitchX: the headache medicine") 05:19:04 redmonk (~steve@ip68-2-102-26.ph.ph.cox.net) has joined #swhack 05:19:26 hello again 05:21:14 anyone home? 05:23:01 syn|ack_ (~synack@210-86-60-170.jetstart.xtra.co.nz) has joined #swhack 05:23:06 hola 05:30:43 redmonk has quit ("cya") 06:52:57 aaargh! 06:53:08 what's up? 06:53:25 what awful luck... i was offered a chance to see Star Wars tomorrow and write a review 06:53:33 but i leave for Honolulu in the morning 06:53:51 now that sucks 06:53:55 I guess I can't complain too much... 06:54:14 well you could, but you wouldn't receive huge amounts of sympathy :) 06:54:28 heh 06:57:36 anyways, have a good time in Hawaii 06:57:38 thanks 06:57:44 any idea what time zone it is there? 06:57:56 well its ahead of japan 06:58:04 but on the previous day 06:58:10 .time -10 06:58:11 error: Site Error occurred: KeyError 06:58:14 .time GMT-10 06:58:15 May 5, 2002 8:58 pm GMT-10 06:58:32 that seems right 06:58:38 .time pst 06:58:38 May 5, 2002 11:58 pm US/Pacific 06:58:52 .time HTZ 06:58:53 error: Site Error occurred: KeyError 06:59:09 I think its 2 hours behind pst 06:59:40 I hope they have the next WWW there as well, might actually manage to go to that one 07:00:25 synack__ (~synack@210-86-110-248.jetstream.xtra.co.nz) has joined #swhack 07:00:26 no, next year is budapest 07:00:35 .google iw3c2 07:00:38 iw3c2: http://www.iw3c2.org/ 07:00:42 * jillium returns from her exciting evening of watching television. 07:00:54 That was a long evening. 07:01:05 Hm, maybe not... 07:01:16 four or five hours or something like that? I don't know when I started. 07:01:29 budapest could work 07:01:34 4 hrs 07:01:43 syn|ack_ has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 07:04:05 * jillium saw part of The Simpsons, her second episode ever of Malcolm in the Middle (that show is deliciously twisted), a documentary on global warming (a good one), the news on Univision (so in Spanish), an episode of Red Dwarf (I had forgotten how incredibly silly that is :-), not quite as much as would have been cool of a documentary on Chinese immigrants to the USA, and half of an episode of M*A*S*H. 07:04:30 Malcolm is good indeed. The one with the dominos? 07:04:36 Yes. 07:04:51 I was more interested in the story line about the segregation of groups in the high school. 07:04:55 I loved the goths 07:04:58 ' makeup. 07:05:02 Yeah, that was pretty cool 07:05:28 I didn't see the beginning, and never quite figured out what was going on. Were nerdy kids being mainstreamed into the usual social groups? What was up? 07:05:43 They were obviously smarter than the others. :-) 07:05:58 The nerdy kids blew up their classroom and were introduced into the general population for five weeks while it was being rebuilt. 07:05:59 * jillium loved the aggressive guy who got a splinter and was threatening it. 07:06:08 Their teacher had to be a phys ed coach. ;-) 07:06:09 Aha, I was pretty close. 07:06:26 I loved it when he found out someone had stolen the pea from his whistle. 07:06:48 Yeah, it's fitting since he's such a horrible guy. 07:06:55 In other news, Lister had head mumps. 07:07:03 Lister? 07:07:30 And a lot of ...what do you call them in English...ah, protesters, communist ones, were assaulting members of the press in San Salvador. 07:07:43 Lister is my favorite character from Red Dwarf. 07:08:41 Ah. 07:09:12 * jillium is suddenly embarrassed about having taken over the conversation with such trivial comments. 07:09:18 * jillium blushes and waves to tansaku. 07:09:53 Well, I, on the other hand, tried to sleep for 4 hours and miserably failed. 07:10:01 So I decided to check my email... 07:10:05 Oh, and there is a new director of finance and development in Venezuela. 07:10:34 and something that I didn't quite catch happened in US immigration law. Univision, not surprisingly, provides _fantastic_ coverage of US immigration law. 07:10:52 I got zillions of details but missed the essence. D'ohh! 07:11:29 It probably involved Ashcroft doing bad things to people. 07:11:35 Oh, I also got to sulk because a channel that I thought broadcast in Chinese turns out to be a rotating-Asian-language station and was broadcasting in Japanese, which is useless to me. 07:12:37 It was about something involving sending money to family back home in Nicaragua. Some temporary law was extended for another year, which made the Latin American immigrant communities very happy. 07:13:09 I need to buck up and go to a Spanish-speaking country for six months. I am so close to fluent in that language... 07:14:16 Hm, how long is the flight to Hawaii 07:14:31 It's fourish hours from here, or maybe from Colorado. 07:14:37 What are you going to HI for? 07:14:41 WWW2002 07:14:49 When? 07:14:57 6AM 07:14:59 Ooh, AA redesigned 07:15:08 Wheee, no point in sleeping now! 07:15:26 Heh. :) 07:15:32 * jillium is a bad influence. :-) 07:15:56 (in real life, I find 3-4 hours of sleep much more helpful than none) 07:16:53 Hm, it gets in at 1255PM 07:16:56 is that their time or ours? 07:17:05 .time cst 07:17:05 May 6, 2002 2:17 am US/Central 07:17:07 .time gmt-10 07:17:07 May 5, 2002 9:17 pm GMT-10 07:17:09 plane arrivals and departures are always local time. 07:17:12 So HI time. 07:17:35 Itineraries normally include a "flight duration" thingie as well. 07:18:11 Hm, this one doesn't seem to. 07:18:34 Definitely time to stomp a city or two. 07:18:39 hm, so that's 5PM. ugh. 07:18:55 Heh, RobK is up 07:19:07 Um, who? 07:19:25 Robert Kaye / ruaok / Mayhem and Chaos Coordinator 07:20:32 Hm, on the bright side, if this flight is only 9 hours i should be able to make the Ogg Vorbis and Neurogrid calls 07:22:10 * jillium whistles "Suicide is Painless" 07:23:03 * jillium is chatty to the point of babbling tonight. 07:23:30 How much are phone calls on planes these days? Still bankruptingly expensive? 07:23:38 I wonder if I can charge CC for them... 07:23:40 I wouldn't know. 07:23:50 CC? 07:23:56 Creative Commons 07:23:57 I bet that info is available online. 07:24:08 Is that the company that is hiring you? 07:24:13 Yep. 07:24:30 "The cost to place domestic calls on the Airfone� Service is $3.99 to connect and $3.99 per minute or partial minute plus applicable tax." 07:24:31 Depends. 07:24:38 AaronSw: they usually print the price in very small numbers next to the phone ;) 07:24:43 :-) 07:24:54 quasi: preferably in a language nobody on the plane can read. :-) 07:24:58 * jillium waves to quasi. 07:25:01 Oh: "Data calls, including 800 and 888 numbers, are no fee to connect and $1.99 per minute or partial minute plus applicable tax." 07:25:11 * quasi waves back 07:25:14 I don't know why 800 numbers are data calls, but OK... 07:25:30 .py 2*3*60 07:25:30 360 07:25:39 Well that's not bankruptingly expensive... 07:25:50 More like expensive birthdya present expensive 07:25:57 AaronSw: because most 800 numbers try to get credit card data from you? 07:26:03 heh 07:26:09 * jillium notes that AaronSw has a very different relationship with money than she does. 07:26:30 No expensive birthday presents for jill? 07:26:56 Oh, voice 800 calls are charged the same as everything else. 07:27:05 I wonder what'll happen if I use my cell phone on the plane. 07:27:07 Um...no. 07:27:18 * tansaku_xr wonders when jills birthday is 07:27:24 Heh. Why? 07:27:35 I'll tell you mine if you tell me yours! 07:27:43 * tansaku_xr was born on May 13th 07:27:49 * jillium was born August 4th. 07:27:57 > Hey the people on the plane with the terrorists used their cell phones! 07:27:57 Yeah, and their plane crashed. 07:27:57 > But that was for a different reason... 07:27:57 How do you know?! 07:27:58 Happy birthday next week. 07:28:06 jill; thanks 07:28:07 * AaronSw adds birthday information to his big stalker db 07:28:09 turning 30 07:28:11 stressful 07:28:18 Oh, I *adored* turning 30! 07:28:23 * quasi was born on june 13th ... /me does not gamble much ;) 07:28:25 It was my best birthday sinnce 18. 07:28:36 My DB says Jill is an Aquarius. 07:28:45 Your db is exactly reversed. 07:28:54 * tansaku_xr would be happy staying in his 20's 07:28:57 Oops, I typed wrong. 07:29:02 tansaku_xr: Why? 07:29:02 Leo 07:29:15 jillium, wanna give a year? 07:29:31 jill: not sure - fell like I still have 20s things still left to do 07:29:33 The year of the cock, rooster, or chicken, depending which term you prefer. 07:29:44 * jillium thinks about what tansaku said. 07:30:01 Does that feel like being too late? 07:30:05 jillium, it seems that you don't know that people's useful lives die at 30 07:30:34 * jillium looks pityingly at AaronSw. 07:30:46 AaronSw: don't say that ... I'll be 30 RSN 07:30:57 Hey, don't shoot the messenger. 07:31:15 jillium, born on a monday? 07:31:20 yes 07:31:52 the db knows all 07:32:08 * jillium is somehow unimpressed with AaronSw's calendar. 07:32:37 Hmph. 07:33:26 * jillium goes to bed. Good night! 07:33:40 good morning ;) 07:33:45 that too. :-) 07:33:49 * jillium disappears. 07:36:39 aha, here's the cite: http://www.cs.caltech.edu/~adam/local/faq-adam.html#thirty 07:41:09 jill: sorry for not following on the converstaion there - had to take a phone call 07:46:36 OK, I'm going to try to sleep again. 08:54:58 how's that sleeping going AaronSw? 09:09:33 i guess that would be a "fine thankyou" 09:28:19 synack__ is now known as syn|ack_ 09:42:52 tansaku_xf (~sam@h132-130.tokyu-net.catv.ne.jp) has joined #swhack 09:50:55 tansaku_xr has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 09:58:07 deltab|xia (~deltab@216.234.235.21) has joined #swhack 10:04:39