00:14:14 * sbp concludes one of the collest bits of net detective work of all time 00:14:17 s/coll/cool/ 00:17:46 erm... is this right? 00:17:47 .http://www.theweekly.co.uk/ 00:17:49 THIS SITE HACKED BY THE BLACK QUORUM 00:18:27 I guess now :-) 00:18:37 s/now/not/ 00:19:03 * sbp writes a thank you card to the person who invented the s// substitution syntax 00:19:14 s%s//%s///% 00:33:15 don't forget to give the card a light scent. 00:37:00 all my cards smell of beer. perhaps keeping them in the fridge is not the best idea 00:37:18 Oh dear. At least they don't smell of cheese. 00:37:21 do they? 00:37:49 nope. I try to avoid cheesy beers 00:37:56 hmph. 00:39:09 is the detective thing online? 00:39:17 what's with the s% syntax? 00:39:21 who's the card addressed to? 00:39:56 what? / because it means I don't have to escape the slashes / I haven't found out yet 00:40:56 heh, I just wrote the following for a new opinions page... I just have to paste it in 00:40:57 [[[ 00:40:58 It's funny; when I was at college, there were lots of people engaging in 00:40:59 strange activities, and trying to "find" themselves. But I always knew 00:40:59 where to find myself. I'd be on the nearest sofa watching The Simpsons. 00:41:00 ]]] 00:41:33 this new thing may or may not make it 00:42:21 * sbp concludes one of the coolest bits of net detective work of all time 00:42:24 what were you detecting? 00:42:32 can't say 00:42:37 Hmph 00:42:49 sbp is such a tease. 00:43:00 Can you say if you'll be able to say? 00:43:01 or *am* I? 00:43:04 yeah, I am 00:43:12 can I do what now? 00:43:25 will you ever be able to reveal what you were detecting? 00:43:28 the espians have a new server: xia 00:43:47 I may one day reveal it, yes 00:44:22 cool. is this the Jill-hosted-electric-citadel 00:44:22 ? 00:45:52 No, it's not. Mine is called munin. 00:46:15 * sbp gives up on his neoopinions thing, and reaches for rm 00:46:17 it's apparently at some host or something 00:46:33 theplanet 00:47:01 great! anything with a "the" in it is ammo for Ash when it goes wrong 00:47:42 WE ARE TEH PLANETZ@@@(#@*@!!!! WE ARZ IRN E ELIGNMEBNT!!!! 00:47:55 precisely :-) 00:47:59 tav is really in love with this server.... 00:48:07 * jillzilla 's server gets jealous. 00:48:33 [censored quote from tav] 00:48:43 tav loves everything 00:48:43 Morbus (morbus@s114.terminal3.totalnetnh.net) has joined #swhack 00:48:50 morBUS! 00:48:59 MORbus! 00:49:11 WHERE ARE TEH FONTZ?! 00:49:11 moRBUs! 00:50:01 ack! 00:50:12 * Morbus runs and hides. 00:50:14 too... much... love! 00:50:24 at least we're not braiding hair today 00:50:40 we don't love you. we're just screaming because you entered the channel 00:50:47 katie cut my hair by like two inches recently. 00:50:53 *gasp* 00:50:59 and i just bought glasses. $313 bucks. 00:51:05 i should get them tomorrow. 00:51:12 if you can find your way there. 00:51:14 dollarbucks? 00:51:20 is that like a new coffe place? 00:51:31 heh. its a few blocks away. 00:51:41 Right next door to the New Pedantic. 00:51:42 heh. fine. US313 bucks. 00:51:42 ;) 00:51:45 heh. 313 dollarbucks road 00:51:51 er wait, its 313US bucks, right? 00:51:56 is that the right way? i keep forgeting. 00:52:02 i think its prefaced. yah. 00:52:11 USD$313 00:52:14 USB? I think that acronym's already taken 00:52:36 i had to take some stupid test today. 00:53:00 the stupid essay i had to write was dumb, dumb, dumb. 00:53:07 i kept wanting to say "i can't write without my toolz!". 00:53:22 BBEdit or bust! 00:54:02 bbedit, exactly. 00:54:06 it was so hurtful. 00:54:06 my hands hurt bad. 00:54:22 i haven't written that much with my hand in long. 00:54:27 tav's no longer coming to SF, he spent the money on a hoo^W xia. 00:54:55 yeah, i hate writing essays by hand 00:54:56 i may write the essay for dnn. 00:55:01 er, transcript it. 00:55:01 oh. decepticons. 00:55:03 i get terrible cramps because i can't hold the pencil right 00:55:09 they couldn't figure out where to publish it, so i'm weblogging it on oreilly. 00:55:16 thts where dave/derrick suggested. 00:55:17 AaronSw: exactly! 00:55:42 even now, as I type, my thumbs feel all gelled up, like i'm got cramps or something 00:55:51 deceptions. on a weblog. O.K. 00:56:10 yeah, the ora weblog. 00:56:20 not sure how much play that'll get, but at least its more than dnn or evolt. 00:56:32 writing with pens or pencils is so annoying. they just don't move fast enough 00:56:35 and maybe i'll get a column head on the main page ;) 00:56:38 that's a play on words, even. 00:56:47 So much for my plans to get a jill-aaronsw-tav keysigning. 00:56:51 heh, heh. tht's right! 00:57:11 my scrawl was bd. in my draft, i was doin like first three letters of the word, and then moving on ;) 00:57:21 heh, heh 00:57:22 keysigning? 00:57:41 yeah, i was going to meet tav and jillzilla in SF and have us all sign each others GPG keys 00:57:51 I'm going to learn the gzip compression algorithm and write in bytes 00:58:09 ahh. 00:58:18 but now tav's not coming 00:58:23 why do you need that sort of protection? 00:58:33 it's the principle. 00:58:33 i've never understood that amount of oopmh. 00:58:33 maybe i have nothing important to say. 00:58:36 * Morbus shrugs 00:58:51 jillzilla: what's the principle? 00:58:56 using crypto. 00:59:07 the principle is that you hold a big crypto party! beer 00:59:13 and pool! 00:59:27 keep going. 00:59:27 * Morbus scratches head. 00:59:35 i don't rape you because of the principle. 01:00:11 stick and ball? 01:00:21 * sbp wonders if that sentence needed a comma 01:00:23 now i'm in no mood to do anything else. 01:00:23 stupid crap. 01:00:36 i didn't accomplish a single thing today. 01:00:36 stayed home from work and everything. 01:01:08 sigh. 01:01:08 i have three choices of modules. 01:01:25 Getopt::Std which adds only 4k to a compiled exe. 01:01:30 but it is draconian in what it'll accept for cmd line flags. 01:01:42 do rock-paper-scissors with yourself 01:01:53 then there's Getopt::Long, which is magical, adds 40k, but could be considered "wordy" in the code. 01:02:15 then there's CGI.pm which is HUuUUUge (140k+ plus), but allows very very quick and easy cmd line flags. 01:02:20 sigh. 01:02:34 i talk too much. 01:02:34 * Morbus hushes. 01:02:43 wow. it's quite fun playing with yourself 01:02:56 rock-paper-scissors, that is 01:03:06 jillzilla has changed the topic to: wow. it's quite fun playing with yourself 01:03:20 * Morbus peers at sbp 01:03:47 especially the part where the rock smashes the scissors to bits. 01:03:47 heh, that was almost a Morbus style correction 01:04:09 * jillzilla feels crappy. 01:04:15 heh. heh. 01:04:20 heh 01:04:41 [[[ 01:04:41 Researchers at the University of Cincinnati College of 01:04:41 Medicine report that cloned mice get fat in adulthood, raising 01:04:41 the specter that attempting to clone, say, Janet Jackson could 01:04:41 result in Oprah Winfrey, while a cloned Kevin Bacon could 01:04:42 eventually resemble John Madden. The advantage is that it would 01:04:43 replace "glandular problems" as the most overused excuse for 01:04:44 keysignings are just fun 01:04:45 obesity, as in, "Don't be mean to her. She's CLONED." 01:04:48 ]]] 01:05:16 where do you find these things? 01:05:31 [[[ 01:05:31 Brought to you by THE JOE BOB REPORT 01:05:31 http://www.joebobbriggs.com 01:05:32 ]]] 01:05:32 and why is there an AaronSw quote in the middle of it? 01:05:41 sorry, i was reading the scrollback 01:05:45 joe bob being the guy behind God Stuff, TNT Monster Vision, etc. 01:06:07 * jillzilla is tempted to fuck with the quote deely. 01:06:24 fight the power 01:06:32 arse waver 01:06:38 * Morbus is taken aback! 01:06:53 * Morbus kicks the three prong. 01:07:12 [[[ 01:07:12 Two hundred fifty million monarch butterflies froze to death 01:07:12 and dropped into foot-high piles in the mountains of central 01:07:18 Mexico during a winter storm. Cleanup crews will work around the 01:07:18 clock so that second-graders aren't encouraged to cheat by using 01:07:18 pre-mounted specimens. 01:07:18 ]]] 01:08:11 heh, heh: 01:08:11 [[[ 01:08:11 Convicted pot dealer Ed Forchion, better known as New Jersey 01:08:11 Weedman, has filed a petition to have his name legally changed to 01:08:11 NJWEEDMAN.COM. Forchion, who has battled to legalize marijuana 01:08:12 for years by lighting up joints in courts, congressional offices 01:08:14 and the State Senate chambers, is currently confined to 01:08:17 Riverfront State Prison, where he continues to put out comic 01:08:18 books starring himself as "NJ Weedman." 01:08:20 Forchion counters 01:08:24 that he intends to use his new name as "an advertising gimmick 01:08:24 for my books, not as a criminal venture." He further adds that he 01:08:26 frequently forgets his name. 01:08:28 ]]] 01:09:02 ah, but adding .com will make him remember it? 01:09:17 [[[ 01:09:17 Jack Weigand of Mountaintop, Pa., ordered a Dell Inspiron 01:09:17 4100 notebook computer that never showed up on the promised 01:09:17 delivery date. When he called to find out what the problem was, 01:09:17 he was told that Dell had decided NOT TO SELL IT TO HIM. The 01:09:17 .whois jillzilla.com 01:09:17 reason: they didn't like the name of his company (Weigand Combat 01:09:17 the VeriSign Registrar WHOIS database is provided by VeriSign for registered to nobody expires on eriSign Registrar WHOIS database is provided by VeriSign for 01:09:18 Handguns). 01:09:28 But Dell claimed that a shipment to Weigand was 01:09:28 prohibited by law. (They didn't specify what law.) Weigand, taken 01:09:28 aback, mentioned what happened on his website, and within hours 01:09:28 he was swamped with email support. Once the story broke, Dell 01:09:28 suddenly changed gears. "There was an unfortunate series of 01:09:30 events," said Dell spokeswoman Cathie Hargett. "We should have, 01:09:32 when the name of his company triggered a red flag, followed up 01:09:34 with him immediately to ensure that his order was not in 01:09:36 violation of U.S. export rules. Knowing what we know about him 01:09:38 now, we know that is not the case." 01:09:40 (She didn't explain just 01:09:42 exactly what export rules apply to a shipment that's not, uh, 01:09:45 EXPORTED.) Dell then offered to send Weigand a free Inspiron 01:09:47 4100, but the gunsmith wouldn't take it, saying he didn't want 01:09:48 people to think he'd caused trouble just to save money. So, Dude, 01:09:50 he's not gettin' a Dell. 01:09:52 ]]] 01:09:54 my quote deely. 01:09:56 can you please stop the 300-foot-long pastes? 01:09:56 it's been fucked up. 01:09:59 sniff. 01:10:00 WTF are you doing?! 01:10:12 No match for "JILLZILLA.COM". 01:10:13 AaronSw: no. 01:10:23 /kick Morbus :300-foot-long pastes 01:10:37 fight the power, bitch. 01:10:37 remember. stupid fucking medicine. 01:11:26 medication? medication? 01:11:28 * jillzilla gets grouchier. 01:11:38 * sbp will have to play that now... after this album 01:11:47 Why so grouchy, jillzilla? 01:12:02 CafeCam reports long lines, probably 01:13:03 .time est 01:13:04 Apr. 30, 2002 9:13 pm US/Eastern 01:13:06 err 01:13:08 .time pst 01:13:08 Apr. 30, 2002 6:13 pm US/Pacific 01:13:25 Dunno why I'm so grouchy. I have about 17 theories, all boring. 01:13:49 * AaronSw tries to think of de-grouchifiers 01:13:57 Ah, food. 01:13:58 coke! 01:14:23 coke makes me grouchier. It's inevitable. 01:14:27 pool... returning joke pages for popular Google searches... erm... 01:14:34 * jillzilla hasn't had coke in years. 01:14:38 Oooooh! Joke pages! 01:14:48 putting the CafeCam in the lavs without telling anyone 01:14:52 There are already people playing pool. 01:14:58 Hahaha! cafecam abuse! 01:15:15 betting $500 on a sports event - with someone else's money 01:15:21 heh: 01:15:21 .google porn 01:15:22 porn: http://drew.corrupt.net/lp 01:15:25 Well, except I wouldn't care. 01:15:39 But it's a good idea! 01:16:05 heh, that's pretty great 01:16:08 I'm bored bored bored bored bored. 01:16:19 * jillzilla whinges tediously. 01:16:27 jillzilla: me too 01:16:30 Jill? Bored? 01:16:39 How can you be bored? you have the search ticker! 01:16:42 Boredom is rare for me. 01:16:43 * Morbus takes flight. 01:16:49 Very rare. 01:16:50 why don't you tattoo parts of yourselves with naughty words? 01:16:58 It usually means that I'm grossly overworking. 01:17:01 Hmmm. Wait... 01:17:04 oooh. 01:17:08 * jillzilla tallies up work time for the last three days. 01:17:09 jillzilla, i'll tatoo you, you do me. 01:17:18 I'd rather be done than tattooed. 01:17:48 erm... 01:17:51 camera cuts to Morbus' face 01:17:54 AaronSw: ever tried mulberry? 01:17:58 sbp has changed the topic to: I'd rather be done than tattooed 01:18:04 that was anti-climatic 01:18:07 * jillzilla has done nothing but sleep, work, and use drugs to attempt to work more for the last three days. 01:18:07 heh. I knew I'd get my own back 01:18:10 No wonder I'm bored! 01:18:23 sbp: I knew as soon as I said that that it was going into the topic. But it was too late. 01:18:29 jillzilla: tried electric blue jolt? 01:18:34 or the expresso jolt? 01:18:37 penguin mints? 01:18:39 I have not used mulberry. but cyrusoft sounds familiar... 01:18:42 I'm surprised it took me so long to decide that it was topic material 01:18:51 well mulberry does too 01:19:10 I'm heading to the zen center in ten mniutes. 01:19:15 or minutes, whichever comes first. 01:19:17 i've heard good things about it. 01:19:23 i'm tryiing it oyt now. 01:19:58 I want to REDESIGN EVERYTHING! 01:20:01 ooh. gnupg support. 01:20:06 let's have a key signing! 01:20:08 sbp has changed the topic to: Mulberry, Jolts, and Zen 01:20:10 * Morbus waves his hands around. 01:20:11 yaaay! 01:20:20 ooh. beer 01:20:24 * jillzilla creates random keys and signs them. 01:20:30 a beer signing! 01:20:48 a peer beer signing! 01:20:54 a peer to beer signing! 01:21:02 don't let's get carried away, now 01:21:20 anonymous imap? how's that work? 01:21:20 * jillzilla gets excited over the difference between voiced and unvoiced consonants. 01:21:44 wow. you are bored 01:21:53 Well, no, that's normal for me. 01:22:00 Wheee! 01:22:08 no, it's normal for me, which indicates that something is wrong with you 01:22:13 I'm going to code for ten minutes, then go to the zen center. 01:22:25 sbp: I fear we share this dubious normality, and there's nothing you can do about it. 01:23:00 A Zen Center doesn't sound very zen... 01:23:06 lol! 01:23:07 AaronSw: ?? 01:23:11 heh! 01:23:16 sbp has changed the topic to: A Zen Center doesn't sound very zen... 01:23:21 oops 01:23:24 sbp has changed the topic to: A Zen Center doesn't sound very zen... 01:23:25 * jillzilla is relieved. 01:23:34 * AaronSw feels validated 01:23:55 http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=person:AaronSwartz 01:24:11 "Sorry, this type of URI is not supported by this service." 01:24:25 * sbp writes a bug report up for w-v 01:25:00 9 megs for mulberry. sigh. 01:25:29 davb has quit ("Client Exiting") 01:25:38 3 quarks for muster Mark. heh. 01:26:41 Hm, days are so depressing. 01:27:10 nights are pretty funky though, aren't they? 01:27:35 Nights are just when you're depressed 01:27:36 cheer up, guys 01:27:46 after the day depresses you 01:28:05 wow. #swhack is in depress-o-rama mood today 01:28:10 "Night time is only the other side of daytime/but if you've ever waited for the sun/You know what it's like/to wish daytime would come." 01:28:10 * sbp flicks through the channels 01:28:37 I was thinking more of "Break on Through" 01:28:42 but hey, whatever works for you 01:29:07 I need a greater phi to break on through. I'm instead going to stumble on along. 01:29:32 ramble on 01:29:33 a greater phi? wouldn't that imply that you'd have less divisors... 01:29:51 no! she needs a greater work function 01:30:43 "hear the wind whistle in the trees..." 01:30:46 man, I love this song 01:30:51 I love lots of songs 01:30:58 but I love this song 01:31:24 awesome: "Dutch law allows children ages 12 to 16 to make their own decision about sex. But if Mom and Dad feel a relationship is exploitative, they can ask the authorities to investiate." 01:31:37 Those Dutch are always so ahead of us. 01:32:35 oops 01:32:41 s/whistle in/within/ 01:33:18 * AaronSw hums a tune that is only half-depressed 01:33:33 Wow, I wrote more code in the ten minutes since I complained and got all the cool suggestions than I had in the two hours before. 01:33:45 Haven't tested it or anything crazy like that. But still... 01:34:27 Moral: complaining is good for the soul 01:34:39 Hm, I need to code something. But what? 01:34:39 It broke up a logjam this time. 01:35:25 "I've been mistreated babe, I believe I'll shake em on down" 01:35:40 * AaronSw hunts for a logjam/lumberjack joke 01:35:48 * jillzilla heads for the zen center. Later! 01:35:53 c'ya 01:37:21 another "Why Python Rocks" article: http://opag.ca/article_mike1.shtml 01:37:49 ten a penny, I know... 01:39:00 I wonder if Arc will have Python's artistry. Probably not... 01:41:40 I think I will fix the cgi module. 01:41:45 Gee, I'm feeling less depressed already. 01:41:47 wow, Uche's .sig is huge 01:56:14 Morbus has quit (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 01:56:14 * sbp downloads Amaya 6.1 01:56:52 * sbp wonders what's changed since 5.3 01:57:25 Hmm... a few things: http://www.w3.org/Amaya/User/New 02:01:49 Lisa Rein's songs have surprisingly high production values 02:03:44 studio-quality? 02:03:59 They sound that way, I'm not really one to judge, though. 02:04:08 @ http://www.nytimes.com/2002/05/01/science/01HUBB.html 02:04:22 GabeW (~Gabe@12-236-237-100.client.attbi.com) has joined #swhack 02:04:42 A: http://www.nytimes.com/2002/05/01/science/01HUBB.html from sbp 02:05:08 come on, chumpy! 02:05:12 dear me 02:05:16 A:|Telescope Opens Window on Dawn of the Universe 02:05:17 heh 02:05:33 titled item A 02:06:00 it'll be slower than logster soon 02:06:38 A:\Telescope Opens Window of the Damned on the Universe 02:06:48 it's A:: here, ash 02:06:54 Oh! 02:06:56 heh 02:06:59 A::Telescope Opens Window of the Damned on the Universe 02:07:06 I'd move it to vorpal, but i can't ge thte stupif xslt to work 02:07:10 That's how I read it 02:07:10 heh 02:07:13 ASH DOESNOT NOWE HOW TO USE TEH CHUMP! 02:07:17 window of damned 02:07:18 commented item A 02:07:34 Aaron: why not? 02:07:45 sbp: NO, TEH CHUMPEY DOSE NOT KNOE HOW TO POEST TEH QUESTANS@!%1 02:07:55 heh, heh 02:08:20 Becuase the xslt module has this weird thing where it will generate foo.html for a foo.xml file, but since there's no actual index.html file it puts up a 404 for the directory rather than display the html 02:08:31 i guess i could generate the html statically, but it's a bit of a pain 02:08:35