00:00:13 sbp: it's not even well-formed 00:00:19 62. Edward Lipski I designed the SOAP interface for my company. After 1 full year in service I can assure you: It's pointless. 00:00:30 er...there's no such thing as well-formed HTML, is there? 00:01:05 deltab: http://www.petitiononline.com/cgi-bin/suggestion.cgi?httpgoog/petition.html 00:01:36 urm... 00:01:41 GET http://www.prescod.net/rest/googleapi.html --> 200 OK 00:01:51 ... 00:01:52 content="0;url=googleapi"> 00:03:11 68. 00:03:12 John E. Barham 00:03:12 K.I.S.S. 00:03:38 I prefer K.I.S.M-F :) 00:03:46 M-F ? 00:04:12 Er..give it the obvious rude, obscene expansion :) 00:04:29 ahh :) 00:04:54 Microsoft-what? 00:05:24 Ahem. Add what you would add if the "M" expanded to "mother" :) 00:05:31 :-) 00:06:00 keep it simple, my-friend 00:06:08 Oh dear. 00:06:20 What's a cleanminded boy like you doing on a channel like this? 00:06:31 fuck knows 00:07:00 lol 00:09:41 pawn_ has quit (Remote closed the connection) 00:09:41 jillium has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 00:09:44 sean, did you read the note from david orchard on the tag list where he said to paul prescod, essentially: "If you send me *369* VERY LONG EMAILS in 3 months, I will NOT read them all" 00:10:13 Hmm... when was that? 00:10:20 Last week. 00:10:52 must have missed it. When you get 369 very long www-tag emails in three months... 00:11:59 aha:- 00:11:59 [[[ 00:11:59 I can't read every message that goes through my mailbox. In the past 3 00:11:59 months alone, I've gotten an average of 4 emails a day from you (369 to be 00:11:59 exact). And they are all typically long. 00:11:59 ]]] - www-tag 00:12:01 - http://www.w3.org/2002/02/mid/00d201c1ecab$30486c60$540ba8c0@beasys.com 00:12:18 Yep. 00:12:21 Hilarious. 00:13:22 heh, it is pretty good 00:13:30 "RESTafarians" 00:13:49 Hmm. 00:14:13 is that a slam against prescod? 00:14:21 there have been quite a few good www-tag emails 00:15:13 the email? it certainly seems to be. but a polite slam :-) 00:16:00 No, but isn't RESTafarian a play on rastafarian? 00:16:27 yeah... is Paul a Rastafarian? 00:16:50 I don't think so. 00:17:08 But he's black, isn't he? 00:17:24 IOW, I'm wondering if it's some weird racist thing from Orchard. 00:17:33 Seems unlikely, but it's also a bit odd. 00:17:52 I'm not sure why DO came up with the phrase. I don't think he would have included it to be racist - he was probably just engaging in free association 00:18:04 but I see your point 00:19:52 and I'll even venture the opinion that it was carless of him. But AFAIK, nobody has complained, or asked him to retract it. As I say, I think it was just an off-the-cuff free-association thing 00:20:22 I agree with the former. 00:20:30 Well, the first. 00:20:32 And the second. 00:20:37 Probably the third. 00:39:14 CygBot (~sbp@m498-mp1-cvx3b.pop.ntl.com) has joined #swhack 00:39:20 heh:- 00:39:22 1$ lynx http://monkeyfist.com/articles/815/plain --source --dump 00:39:27 > 00:39:27 > [...] 00:39:29 CygBot has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 00:39:52 Woody! 00:40:12 there are some other good comments in there... 00:41:18 * sbp puts on Liege & Lief 01:33:56 wow, i got some weird pmsgs 01:34:07 -- 01:34:25 hi 01:34:26 u there? 01:34:26 ««« Ë×Çü®§îöñ »»» Version«8.11»| mIRC«v5.81 32bit»| «Get Your Copy At http://excursion.cjb.net » [note this was all in garish yellow and orange] 01:34:27 Oops [same] 01:34:27 *g 01:34:27 okay 01:34:29 ur not 01:34:31 cu 01:34:33 *** hitman4ever has quit IRC (Client Quit) 01:34:35 -- 01:34:41 yeah. he asked for you in here too 01:34:53 That kendall, still killing fascists after all these years! 01:36:16 weird, i wonder if he wanted to kill me or something 01:36:17 heh: 01:36:18 01:36:18 01:36:18 01:37:28 .wn prima facie 01:37:29 error: unable to define prima facie 01:37:42 Hm, I wonder what version its using. 01:38:52 .wn wordnet version 01:38:52 error: unable to define wordnet version 01:38:56 oh well 01:39:06 what's up with markpasc?? oh, got it now 01:40:12 heh @ END OF WORLD! 01:40:52 I just found that two of my friends from school are spending next year abroad in China. 01:41:02 prima facie is a latin phrase, I doubt it's in wordnet 01:41:09 no, it is in 1.6 01:41:20 interesting! 01:41:25 15th thought: Quick, I must stock them up on Peek-A-Booty CDs. 01:41:26 From WordNet (r) 1.6 [wn]: 01:41:26 prima facie 01:41:26 adj : as it seems at first sight; "a prima facie case of murder" 01:41:26 adv : at first sight 01:41:35 pre 1.6, then 01:42:15 or the command you're using doesn't handle terms with spaces 01:42:42 ah, good point 01:43:34 Ben found a Python book that makes sense to him, and got really into IDLE last night. I blame sbp. 01:43:43 heh, heh 01:44:24 Hmm: Subject: Undeliverable mail--"learn more about how we use your information," 01:45:43 My goodness! 36,000 people paid $30 each to salon!?!? 01:45:55 And they still need nasty ads? 01:46:02 giggle @ NLP? in Java? on a 486? 01:46:56 I was picturing a big hole in the ground where danbri's computer once was :-) 01:46:56 a kindred soul: MOO's more fun than IRC 01:47:27 well of course 01:47:35 On the other hand, they claim 3 million readers a month. 01:48:08 you have places that can be decorated and objects that can be interacted with 01:48:27 argh, can't get to danbri's moo 01:49:32 jillzilla is skepitcal of S-W? hmm 01:49:52 BenSw is missing a closing paren: (Homeschool today 01:50:57 ) 01:51:02 missing parens really bug me 01:51:12 except in smileys 01:51:27 since there, the purpose of the character is simply for the glyph 01:52:45 "Microsoft: Sanctions could confuse users " Well, *these* "sanctions* confuse *me*. 01:53:04 Since what i was expecting was MS to be dismembered like an overboiled trout. 01:53:28 He mentioned this channel at that time 01:53:28 ah, so that's what the q was for 01:54:02 Ash (~amathews@166.70.45.199) has joined #swhack 01:54:19 here, here! bijan 01:55:11 jillium (~jill@dsl092-186-227.sfo2.dsl.speakeasy.net) has joined #swhack 01:55:15 jiiiill! 01:55:18 sbp! 01:55:28 * jillium has her network working with the new hub. 01:55:32 Now to find deltab. 01:55:32 'ray 01:55:38 gasp! I don't believe the "oll korrect" theory for the etymology of OK. 01:55:48 ah. she was simply misinformed 01:55:50 I do now. 01:55:54 I even *like* it now. 01:55:55 phew 01:56:09 Anti-bell ringing and oll that 01:56:14 heh, heh 01:56:23 * AaronSw tries to find jillium finding deltab 01:56:30 * jillium blinks. 01:56:32 hi jillium 01:56:32 I have a server for him! 01:56:35 * sbp tries to find Aaron finding... no... 01:56:39 but don't tell him...ooops! 01:56:50 dear me. 01:57:00 yes, dear you 01:57:12 * jillium flutters eyelashes. 01:57:16 heh @ touché (latin for...) 01:57:22 Dear Jill, it has come to our attention that you're using the phrase "dear me" and awful lot... 01:57:32 I've been doing that for years. 01:57:33 heh! I was hoping you'd find that 01:58:02 AaronSw: must you read logs in public? It's a terrible habit, you know. Soon you will be picking your nose. 01:58:07 it's a nice idiosyncrasy 01:58:10 :-) 01:58:12 deltab: um, are you here? 01:58:21 * AaronSw decides not to comment on the nose bit 01:58:21 I believe so 01:58:32 are you interested in this server thing 01:58:33 ? 01:58:33 thank goodness for t2s, I can read scrollback while answering current questions 01:58:45 jillium: of course 01:58:49 this email was sent via. a feedback form, therefore it's spam 01:58:54 Are you somewhere I can phone you? 01:59:06 I'm in the UK 01:59:15 I know. Are you phonable? 01:59:23 * jillium phones the UK all the time. 01:59:24 lol @ * sbp CHUCKLES!@!! AHAHAHAHA ROFFLE@!@!111 01:59:35 :-) @ Yeah, Ash, you really captured sbp's style there. 01:59:40 hehehe 01:59:51 ROFFLE!! 01:59:53 I know, I'm an IRC artist. 01:59:56 we're so witty when Aaron isn't around. 02:00:01 AaronSw, that is. 02:00:04 And sbp has adopted his new style. 02:00:09 Either one triggers t2s 02:00:12 jillium: Indeed. 02:00:23 heh, heh. you guys certainly have strange notions of "art" 02:00:30 well, just Ash 02:00:46 * jillium wonders wth deltab is doing. 02:00:54 sbp: Heh heh. 02:01:18 deltab: let's get this going, ffs. It's not good for me to be sitting here rather than doing what I had planned for Saturday. 02:01:27 ffs! 02:01:29 Ash, I used to watch Blues... oh, this channel is logged 02:01:34 * Ash wonders what jillium is doing with ffs 02:01:39 nudge, nudge, wink, wink, say no *more*! 02:01:40 Eh...amaya 6.0's SVG rendering is a *little* better, I think. Still nowhere near the quality of the adobe plugin. 02:01:45 AaronSw: Blues clues is not the same without Steve :-( 02:01:54 Have you seen it with...is it Joe? 02:01:54 Steve is Gone?!?!?!?! 02:01:58 STEVE IS GONE! 02:02:05 * jillium was the first to report this on #infoanarchy. 02:02:12 But I learned it from the web site. 02:02:15 jillium: sorry, was fetching handset from downstairs 02:02:20 I thought that he was just joking when he fell over after I shot that... oh, this channel is logged 02:02:20 aha. 02:02:33 heh, heh 02:02:52 deltab: i ask because it's something like 3am there. 02:03:00 We were at Nick Studios, and he was filming some international commercials, and I just wanted to say hello but it got all out of hand... all out of hand! 02:03:02 * AaronSw cries 02:03:11 * jillium cries too. 02:03:19 Who? Steve? 02:03:37 jillium: I have not seen this joe yet. 02:03:52 We don't have cable, but can see blue's clues on saturday morning. 02:04:03 @ http://www.steveswebpage.com/ 02:04:20 I wonder if I have cable. 02:04:29 so unfair, Monty Python weekend... 02:04:33 I watched television the other day. 02:04:33 Oh man. 02:04:35 A: http://www.steveswebpage.com/ from Ash 02:04:41 A::STEVE RULES 02:04:57 commented item A 02:05:29 there are rules for Steve? 02:05:42 is jeremiah here? 02:05:56 idle time: 5hrs 55mins 30secs 02:08:28 lol @ Er..give it the obvious rude, obscene expansion :) 02:08:28 Microsoft-what? 02:10:12 i love os x. i can pull out the ethernet cord and my irc connection doesn't die 02:11:00 I wonder how it would handle the shovel smashing test? 02:11:16 to be fair, most OSes don't pass it 02:11:18 That doesn't sound like something I want to try. 02:11:56 hm? @ Woody! 02:12:03 Guthrie 02:12:11 "This machine kills facists" 02:12:36 See: http://www.subvertise.org/details.php?code=238 02:12:43 That's where kendall got it from. 02:13:51 oh, right 02:14:14 whoa, steve grew a beard 02:14:42 I can imagine he would want to look older. 02:14:48 In order to get laid in this lifetime... 02:15:18 heh: will you appear at my child's birthday party? thanks for asking, but um no. 02:15:50 the ftrain.com connection is pretty clear 02:16:14 Huh? 02:16:26 Hmm. I should write a parody of my own article using this: http://www.google.com/technology/pigeonrank.html 02:16:38 heh 02:16:41 steveswebpage was designed by the ftrain guy 02:16:54 Paul? really? 02:17:11 so he says 02:17:53 Hmm. http://www.steveswebpage.com gives me a big set of non-pics :) 02:17:58 i shall have to rag paul about it. 02:18:13 "(also paul helped build this web site and runs ftrain.com)" 02:18:20 I'm getting "service temporarily unavailable". Hmm. 02:18:28 not the second time... 02:18:32 ugh, me too 02:18:45 * AaronSw tries to download some dust mite songs 02:18:48 I'll definitely have to link to paul's google article: http://www.ftrain.com/robot_exclusion_protocol.html 02:19:07 * AaronSw gets affirmed by steve 02:19:13 ``I am Google! I find many good things. I find that pair of underwear with the little dice printed all over them. And I watch the tape of you with the life-sized Stallman puppet. These are good unique things." 02:19:16 steve's web site is a touch overloaded, I think. 02:20:39 SMAK! 02:21:13 Woo, Google is indexing the wiki again 02:21:17 * AaronSw cheers for himself 02:21:27 great! 02:21:32 well done old chap 02:21:41 [dun, dun, dun] THE WIKI 02:22:52 ooh, sheepchops! 02:23:11 this dustmites thing isn't bad 02:23:38 Yeah, it's not. 02:24:32 distmites thing? 02:24:52 steve's album, songs for dust mites 02:26:52 personally, I'm not sure that dust mites deserve to have songs written about them. of course, I could be wrong. actually, it's a very interesting subject. who are we to judge whether or not these tiny little annoying creatures should have songs written about them? I mean, they may even play an important role in the world that we are unaware of, and hence writing a song about them would be a fully justifyable thing to do. OTOH, perhaps they really are just annoying 02:27:45 even his squirrel is in a band: http://www.steveswebpage.com/squirrels_01.html 02:27:54 got cur off at "perhaps they really are just annoying " 02:28:05 [...] little things that don't matter. I find that difficult to believe, because they've certainly had *some* effect, [...] 02:34:15 rave reviews for 6171talk: "Nice article. It actually persuades me that the Semantic Web might happen." 02:34:29 source? NYT? 02:34:39 Private email 02:34:39 Oh, I had some more bits to slag you on. 02:34:42 About that. 02:34:51 But only if your head gets too swollen :) 02:34:55 on the long-form version? go ahead 02:35:08 no, i forgot 'em all. 02:35:21 And I don't remember the url. 02:35:30 .google 6171talk 02:35:31 aaronsw.com/2002/6171talk/talk 02:35:31 no results found. 02:35:33 And my irc client isn't letting through any urls that I don't wan tot see. 02:35:41 heh 02:35:45 (Thank GOD for smalltalk!) 02:36:20 After all, slag slag slag and no acknowledgement! :) 02:36:46 Would it have killed you to have but a "This talk was ptdbb" at the bottom? 02:37:13 privately taken down by Betty? 02:37:24 pecked to death by bijan 02:37:42 neat: "Congratulations! You have passed part one of the two-part application process to become a Google Answers Researcher." 02:37:48 what's part two? getting pecked to death? 02:37:53 heh, heh 02:37:55 peck peck peck. 02:38:06 part two: "are you 18 or over?" 02:38:11 lol! 02:38:16 "Listen, you didn't really want to ask that question did yoU? At least, not in *that* way." 02:38:34 there are some fun questions. like "Who am I? 02:38:48 and "should i become a rock star or an academic?" 02:38:55 "I mean, if you consider what one *should* mean by 'foo', it's clear you *couldn't* have meant 'Is foo a bar?'" 02:39:26 OK, no one give an account to bijan 02:39:54 And account of what? 02:40:00 s/and/an/ 02:40:17 a google researcher account 02:40:18 "Hello. I would have answered your question but there were too many fuckin' typos." 02:40:27 Kendall's applied to. 02:40:30 too 02:40:31 Not me. 02:40:35 Not yet at least. 02:40:51 Why get paid when I already do it for ungrateful losers for free? 02:40:53 Uh....... 02:41:16 * AaronSw coughs 02:41:48 Well, let's take it one step at a time. 02:41:54 a nice big raddish lead 02:42:04 I'm trying to wean myself *off* answering stuff for ungrateful losers for free. 02:42:18 Aw. 02:42:38 Actually, off answering blah blahblah at *all*. 02:42:53 motivational quotes: "I'll never get off this planet." - Luke Skywalker 02:44:02 is the "eeeee" sound in "lead" long or short to you guys? 02:44:11 Depends. 02:44:12 well... eeeee implies long 02:44:39 verb or metal? 02:44:45 as in "a nice big raddish lead" 02:44:52 Er.. 02:44:57 It's silent in that. 02:45:11 no it's not. you must have instinctively read it one way or t'other 02:45:14 In "take the lead" it's eeeeee 02:45:15 Nope. 02:45:24 In "lead figurines" it's edd. 02:45:38 Unless you pronouce 'edd' as 'eeeeeeeeeeedd' 02:45:42 gah, Aaron? 02:45:47 what? 02:45:56 wha'ts a raddish lead? 02:45:59 edie's in the space-time continuum? heh 02:46:06 lead: leeeed, or led? 02:46:16 it *depends*! 02:46:43 lead is always leed 02:46:55 except when it's led. 02:46:56 er, unless it's the metal 02:46:57 er..NO NO NO :)_ 02:46:58 thank you! 02:47:24 I still think that there is an out-of-context default for people 02:47:34 note, "the" metal, not like a metal leed 02:47:42 heh, heh 02:48:00 A lead pencil. 02:48:07 Which involves no metal :) 02:48:19 it could be the winner of a pencil race 02:48:26 As elementary school teacher love to tell you over and over. 02:48:35 Just like a tomato is a fruit. 02:48:57 What about leading in typography? 02:49:22 Michael Everson is the leading typographer 02:49:49 Er..ok. I'm not getting the schtick, and, deep down in side, I don't at all care. 02:49:59 Actually, up top on the surface I don't care either :) 02:50:04 heh, heh 02:50:26 these things are important to me for some reason or another 02:50:29 Was that 'heh, heh', 'heeeeeeeh, heeeeeeeeh', or 'head, head' 02:50:39 Oh, why is easy: You're deranged. 02:50:44 it's pronounced "bwahahahahaha" 02:51:05 BTW, you may be interested: http://www.addall.com/New/BestSeller.cgi?location=10000&state=AK&dispCurr=USD&isbn=0805366814&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.addall.com%2FBrowse%2FDetail%2F0805366814.html&author=&title= 02:51:12 Or, given the URL, maybe not. 02:51:29 a*ha*! 02:51:46 23.48: not too bad, actually 02:51:51 yep. 02:51:58 Quite good in fact. 02:53:49 Ash has quit ("hail satan") 03:10:08 oh, this is great! 03:10:09 @ http://www.dreamsongs.com/WorseIsBetter.html 03:10:45 B: http://www.dreamsongs.com/WorseIsBetter.html from AaronSw 03:11:02 B:|Behind the Scenes of "Worse is Better" 03:11:22 titled item B 03:11:43 B::"One fellow was seriously nervous that I might have a mental disease." 03:12:00 commented item B 03:25:30 Listening to radiohead is weird. I never know if the t2s is the song or IRC. 03:26:23 IRC is the Song. 03:26:33 Ah. 03:26:47 Danny O'Brian: "Remember: Your work email may be monitored if sending sensitive material. Sending >500KB attachments is forbidden by the Geneva Convention. Your country may be at risk if you fail to comply." 03:28:20 * AaronSw listens to http://www.ntk.net/2002/04/26/riaa_we_love_you.mp3 03:28:25 "the entire music foodchain is at serious risk" 03:28:47 "no question the most insidious virus in the midst of this insidious downloading of music is downloading on the net" 03:28:57 [eerie music] 03:32:13 freudian slip at foodchain, there 03:32:14 *chomp* 03:34:33 The Invader Zim world is so freaky 03:36:19 Zim! 03:36:28