00:00:00 wash your mouth out! 00:00:03 wha? wha?! what did I do? 00:00:03 heh, heh 00:00:12 that's practically perl 00:00:15 oh no, I made Python look like Perl! 00:00:21 * sbp runs screaming into a wall 00:00:28 *splutch* 00:00:31 heh. *splutch( 00:00:35 aw, you beat me to it! 00:01:59 I used [ and ] to delimit the input since bash is a bit anal about quotes etc. 00:02:12 Morbus (morbus@s96.terminal3.totalnetnh.net) has joined #swhack 00:02:20 it runs quite well:- 00:02:21 $ python otp.py [blargh] [gunge] 00:02:21 5 25 15 21 2 72 00:02:24 hey there Morbus! 00:02:37 hi morb 00:02:50 sbp: show morbus your perlized python 00:02:54 hey. 00:03:20 xoot has left #swhack 00:03:27 $__underscore__ 00:03:36 lol 00:03:53 while @__list__ 00:03:54 my Perlized Python:- 00:03:55 [[[ 00:03:55 import sys; p=['','']; (x,p[0],y,p[1],z)=' '.join(sys.argv[1:] 00:03:55 ).replace('[',']').split(']'); p[(len(p[0])>len(p[1]))]=[p[0].ljust( 00:03:55 len(p[1])),p[1].ljust(len(p[0]))][(len(p[0])>len(p[1]))]; print ' '.join( 00:03:55 [str(ord(p[0][i])^ord(p[1][i])) for i in range(len(p[0]))]) 00:03:56 ]]] 00:04:01 now sans whitespace! 00:04:03 :-) 00:04:06 heh 00:04:36 whoo hoo! 00:04:37 00:05:59 tansaku has quit () 00:06:07 wtf does it do, sbp? 00:06:28 doo?! 00:06:36 part of the fun of obfuscation is figuring it out. 00:06:38 tell me in a week ;) 00:06:41 hehe 00:08:38 btw, morbus, the syndic8 thing didn't work cuz my feed didn't start with ah. 00:09:46 sigh. 00:09:49 stupid snak. 00:09:55 i'm using the tabbed view. 00:10:03 and it doesn't cycle from the beginning to end of the channel list. 00:10:57 oh, quit whining, Morb. ;-) 00:11:40 heheheh. never! 00:11:47 the world can be better if everyone listens to *me*! 00:11:59 * redmonk runs in circles, fingers in ears 00:12:05 "nobodies listening!" 00:12:13 "yada yada yada yada..." 00:12:27 er, nobody's 00:16:24 * sbp listens to Isis 00:16:56 er... the song. Nothing to do with rm and Morb's conversation 00:16:59 * Morbus listens to ani difranco 00:17:05 mmmmmmmm, ani. 00:17:09 jillzilla! 00:17:14 Morbus! 00:17:19 automatic number identification? 00:17:21 * redmonk groans 00:17:26 bwahahahah 00:17:33 ANI rocks, it lets me see who's calling 00:17:52 heheheh. 00:18:02 i used to have a few ani numbers that would read back your current line. 00:19:07 wicked podracer, ani 00:19:17 * jillzilla winces. 00:19:23 now i'm listening to my life with the thrill kill kult 00:19:36 jillzilla: let's kill 'em 00:19:38 wit'thwha? 00:19:43 heh. 00:19:56 go search for "radio silicon". that's currently playing 00:20:01 * redmonk would love to hear "hold me thrill me kiss me kill me" 00:24:54 sbp has changed the topic to: "Your loyalty is not to me, but to the stars above" - Bob Dylan 00:25:20 [from "One More Cup Of Coffee"] 00:27:31 woo: http://diveintomark.org/projects/pygoogle/pygoogle-0.1.zip 00:27:40 ooh 00:35:33 redmonk has quit (Remote closed the connection) 00:42:17 back to work at oreilly. 00:42:27 nicer formatting:- 00:42:28 [[[ 00:42:28 import sys;n=len;x=' '.join(sys.argv[1:]).replace('[',']').split(']') 00:42:28 p=[x[1],x[3]];p[(n(p[0])>n(p[1]))]=[p[0].ljust(n(p[1])),p[1].ljust(n( 00:42:28 p[0]))][(n(p[0])>n(p[1]))];print ' '.join([str(ord(p[0][i])^ord(p[1][ 00:42:28 i])) for i in range(n(p[0]))]) 00:42:29 ]]] 00:42:37 well, forSome ?nicer 00:42:52 back to work? more articles? A T.V. miniseries? 00:46:45 Gotta run 00:46:53 c'ya 00:48:24 Empaths are the best kind of people... except for hobos 00:49:08 ah, as Black Diamond Bay starts playing over my earphones... 00:49:49 * sbp loves this album 00:53:15 * sbp stacks his money, thinks about breaking illusions 00:56:46 * Morbus turns on some game music. 00:58:46 holy crap. 00:58:46 i forgot all about my decepticons piece. 00:58:52 heh, heh. dammit. 01:03:36 lol. 01:03:36 [[[ 01:03:36 You know some day it's going to happen. You'll be sipping you uber cafe grande mocha expresso chalupa when you here your webserver's hard drive chirping like a squirrel gone mad in a world of nuts. 01:03:36 ]]] 01:03:36 man. 01:03:42 that's what i come up with when i haven't written for weeks. 01:03:53 i shoudl go for months! sheer brilliance is afoot! 01:06:37 "mocha expresso chalupa". How...Morbus. 01:06:53 hmm 01:06:57 * Morbus bows. 01:06:57 :) 01:07:05 ;-) 01:07:11 er. hear, rathr. 01:08:51 here's the full summary: 01:08:57 [[[ 01:08:57 You know some day it's going to happen. You'll be sipping you uber cafe grande mocha expresso chalupa when you hear your webserver's hard drive chirping like a squirrel gone mad in a world of nuts. Either it's the slashdot effect hitting your server unexpectantly, some developer with an infinite loop, or a misguided user repeatedly trying to publish repeatedly with Front Page. Either way, you need to make a change to your server configuration fa 01:08:57 u can use Apache's IfDefine directive? 01:08:57 ]]] 01:09:14 needs work, of course. 01:09:39 pff: "repeatedly trying to publish repeatedly" 01:09:44 department of redundancy, dept. 01:11:03 oh, sbp, about your [[[ ]]] thing. 01:11:19 it never dawned on me, but {{{ }}} is a wiki styling thing too. 01:11:25 it's a pre. 01:15:10 in the normal Wiki, a single space preformats, IIRC 01:21:03 lol @ department of redundancy, dept. 01:36:53 "Everyobdy wants to make a long distance call, but you know: they're just going to have to wait" 01:38:37 ah, music... of sweet melody and rhythmical verse 01:40:38 * sbp recalls that he started on a songwriting essay 01:40:57 although I like to call it an article 01:43:13 MorbusIff (morbus@s119.terminal3.totalnetnh.net) has joined #swhack 01:43:58 xoot (xoot@209.sanjose-05-10rs16rt.ca.dial-access.att.net) has joined #swhack 01:44:04 hello 01:44:31 "If your memory serves you well..." 01:44:33 Hi 01:44:33 where's your suit? 01:46:12 it's off playing with the joker 01:47:04 hey, xoot, i heard you had a y0y0y0y0y0 weblog. 01:47:10 wuzzzzz the addy, bitchie? 01:47:39 xoot has changed the topic to: "Maine students receive first iBooks as part of the largest wireless laptop deployment in history." - apple.com 04/11/02 01:47:45 bitchie bitch, bitchmaster mitch, bitcharoo banzai. 01:47:58 yes, i have a blog 01:48:03 ok. 01:48:08 can we get the objective version of that? 01:48:17 si 01:48:20 like "but they have to give steve jobs blowjobs" - microsoft.com 01:48:35 lol! 01:48:38 no 01:48:55 no? 01:49:04 steve jobs is cool 01:49:27 yeah Morbus. Don't badmouth any OSX folks (even if you're not) 01:49:43 * xoot fingers his anti-PS ammo in his pocket 01:49:50 *PC 01:50:05 i hate os x. 01:50:16 jesus christ. 01:50:16 talk about playskool os. 01:50:16 candy fucking buttons everywhere. 01:50:25 next thing you know, they're gonna have a clippy daemon runnign around the desktop. 01:50:34 yeah? 01:50:35 'looks like your trying to open an application, may I help you?!". 01:50:35 sheesh. 01:50:38 how about windows xp? 01:50:46 fisher-price 01:50:55 at least with os x, you have unix 01:51:02 you mean with the teletubbies background? 01:51:07 huh? 01:51:22 you mean the windows xp stupid grass and sky bg? 01:51:25 yeah, but its a bastard unix that no one in their normal Mac loving mind would ever use. 01:51:26 they hid it too well, and they don't have a package manager. 01:51:33 :P 01:51:35 get fink 01:51:38 making security updates useless unless apple supplies them to you. 01:51:38 yeah... 01:51:42 xoot has quit ("bbl :D") 01:51:55 uh. 01:52:03 oh dear... please, no... "bbl"? ugh 01:52:09 like, i'm gonna go to my boss and be like "yeah, this os x thingy? it has this non-apple supplied package manager called fink!" 01:52:14 no, not fink, like bad fink. 01:52:14 wtf. 01:52:22 i'm trying to argue with this mofo. 01:52:45 GabeW has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 01:52:53 well, he's not here. difficult to argue with someone when they're not here :-) 01:53:23 his reality distortion field must be running low/ 01:53:28 GabeW (~Gabe@12-236-237-100.client.attbi.com) has joined #swhack 01:56:51 davb has quit ("Client Exiting") 01:56:56 Morb, set a good topic, couldya? 01:57:54 hang on, I've got it covered 01:58:05 Morbus has quit (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 01:58:11 MorbusIff has changed the topic to: The Rough Guide to Sex, with your host, Morbus. 01:58:26 ack! i used ansi. 01:58:26 stupid fucking snak. 01:58:31 does it automatically i think 01:58:53 MorbusIff is now known as Morbus 01:59:05 heh, fair enough. I was going to try to set a "why are you experiencing so much bliss? does it give you a hand job?"esque topic, (from http://jerryandpatti.com/~patti/) 01:59:39 ah. 01:59:48 you and your ansified ways 01:59:52 that one came from cos I was all looking around for something to say. 02:00:03 and i got a free "the rough guide to videogaming" book sent to me. 02:00:03 oh, hey, get this. 02:00:20 ok. you know, gamegrene.com? yeah, well, it accepts free crap in the mail, right? 02:00:22 aw man, people never send me free stuff! 02:00:25 so, i get free crap once a week, no big deal, typical gaming stuff. 02:00:28 Uh huh 02:00:57 has anyone ever sent you any actual crap? that'd be quite funny 02:01:14 lsat week, some fucking guy sends me "what do you know", some book full of questions like "why is the sky blue" or "why do my hairy nuts move by themselves on hot summer days". 02:01:14 it has aboslutely nothing to do with games. 02:01:18 "Hi, I just thought I'd send you more free crap. Use it on your lawn" 02:01:24 the funny thing is, it's a relativley interesting book. 02:01:29 so I have no clue what this guy wants me to do with it. 02:01:34 lol @ "why do my hairy nuts move by themselves on hot summer days" 02:01:42 he sent me a form/cover letter. nothing personal. 02:01:47 * Morbus shrugs 02:01:52 it's a bathroom book now. 02:02:08 * sbp cracks up; loves these vignettes 02:02:13 I've asked myself that question. have you watched your nuts when they're hanging low? 02:02:19 they flipping move around like they're yin and yanging. 02:02:29 :) 02:02:52 must... resist... the... urge... to... ask... why... 02:03:03 that's my vignette. back to writing. :) 02:03:09 I... DON'T... KNOW! 02:03:09 Pff 02:03:17 you said it was in the book! 02:03:23 Pff, you lied, didn't you? 02:03:34 .google why do my hairy nuts move by themselves on hot summer days? 02:03:35 why do my hairy nuts move by themselves on hot summer days: http://www.mountain-portal.co.uk/text/sierra/Sierr02.htm 02:03:35 i don't know that, and i don't know why i have a jellybean sized bump that changes thickness on my butt where a tale would grow. 02:03:41 hey, there we go 02:03:41 a tail, rather. 02:03:46 and that's the truth. 02:03:46 wanna see? 02:03:51 argh! 02:04:03 * sbp is mildly frightened 02:04:04 what? 02:04:22 yeah, katie says I should get it looked at. 02:04:25 Hmm... "They eat all kinds of nuts long before they are ripe, and yet never seem to suffer in stomach." 02:04:28 but i *want* to grow a tale. 02:04:28 a tail. 02:04:41 an anecdote 02:04:44 i don't wnat no doctor removing this thing before it meets its full potential. 02:05:13 oh dear me, I'm so glad that this stuff is logged 02:05:35 hehehehe 02:05:52 one day if I'm bored/upset, I'll just be all like, "ooh, swhacklogs time!" 02:06:09 "today: the mystery of Morbus' lump" 02:06:24 bizarre 02:06:43 :) 02:06:43 you should package them as a book. 02:06:58 conversations from past the fringe: how I learned to bathe myself in Morbus. 02:07:00 sorta like the guy that packaged the world up as a mental institution. In HHG 02:07:05 heh, heh 02:09:23 we really are at the butt end of culture and society, aren't we? I love that 02:10:19 heh, people should be thinking "Hmm... if these are their on long conversations, what are their off-log conversations like?" 02:10:33 on long? Pff. I'm going 02:10:34 yes, but remember, in many bad horror flicks, what comes out the butt end turns into something evil and then bites you in the ass. 02:10:39 why do you think I own devilshat.com and poopgod.com? 02:11:10 funny how the arse end is always rejected uncessearily 02:11:20 I mean, without it, you'd explode 02:11:45 right, I really am off now 02:11:49 .time bst 02:11:49 Apr. 12, 2002 3:11 am GMT+1 02:11:50 or else, men would have much larger pee holes. 02:11:55 nOooO! 02:11:56 ouch 02:12:12 yeah. 02:12:18 it'd be like "gall stones?! pfff. you should see what i ate last week". 02:12:26 * sbp is reminded of the truth or dare South Park 02:12:31 heh, heh 02:12:40 * sbp crosses his legs 02:12:44 didn't see it. 02:13:08 * Morbus puts his hand on sbp's knee. 02:13:38 heh. Spoiler!!! Warning!! It has Wendy saying something like "jam this twig up your pee hole". Stan was expecting her to get him to kiss her 02:13:43 kindly remove it 02:14:27 heh. heh. 02:15:07 right, no, yes. I am. Going; that is. viz. I am now going to go as I am going, going is what I am going to do 02:15:22 Gotta run 02:20:25 GabeW has quit ("Client Exiting") 02:22:55 weird. 02:23:01 AaronSw, can you try to pull up movabletype.org? 02:23:46 AaronSw has changed the topic to: aw man, people never send me free stuff! 02:23:56 argh 02:23:57 AaronSw has changed the topic to: has anyone ever sent you any actual crap? that'd be quite funny 02:24:00 nevermind. 02:24:05 i think i did .com. 02:24:11 which redirected to a geocities account. 02:25:40 yep 02:25:47 i've done that before 02:37:55 Morbus has quit ("http://www.disobey.com/") 02:46:17 Morbus (morbus@s119.terminal3.totalnetnh.net) has joined #swhack 02:46:29 * AaronSw disappears 02:46:59 * Morbus reappears 03:17:57 Morbus has quit ("http://www.disobey.com/") 04:07:33 * AaronSw takes a movie of the film can explosive 04:07:40 it's ok... 04:18:07 woo! pyGoogle is working! 04:50:29 * AaronSw studies up on RSA 04:50:45 Need to give a class on it for Number Theory 05:24:55 * AaronSw goes to sleep, dreaming of APIs 05:36:45 xena has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 05:37:23 deltab has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 06:04:15 Galahad (xena@mewtwo.espnow.com) has joined #swhack 06:05:32 tansaku (~sam@n145-185.tokyu-net.catv.ne.jp) has joined #swhack 06:08:13 Galahad is now known as xena 07:36:25 deltab (deltab@mewtwo.espnow.com) has joined #swhack 10:58:02 * sbp waves 10:58:06 nice topic :-) 11:50:54 heh, I love Python sometimes 11:51:07 * sbp was trying to do all sorts of weird stuff to reduce some lists 11:51:15 ... and then I found that I could just add them 12:07:51 * sbp works on his N3 preprocessor 12:14:06 ooh, interesting bit from Tim that I missed:- 12:14:06 [[[ 12:14:06 Actually "a" isn't just a shorthand for rdf:type, as it can only be used as 12:14:06 a predicate. 12:14:06 ]]] 12:14:06 ugh 12:14:08 [[[ 12:14:10 Actually "a" isn't just a shorthand for rdf:type, as it can only be used as 12:14:12 a predicate. But that could change. But other keywords like @prefix 12:14:14 and @forsome (coming) are special syntax. 12:14:16 ]]] 12:14:18 - mid:003301c1c621$15be54a0$84001d12@w3.org 12:14:29 .google site:lists.w3.org 003301c1c621$15be54a0$84001d12 12:14:29 no results found. 12:14:32 Pff 12:14:49 .http://www.w3.org/2002/02/mid/003301c1c621$15be54a0$84001d12@w3.org 12:14:51 www-rdf-interest@w3.org from March 2002: Re: n3 wishlist: autom Re: n3 wishlist: automatic namespace selection From: Tim Berners-Lee (timbl@w3.org) Date: Thu, Mar 07 2002 Next message: Sandro Hawke: "Re: n3 wishlist: automatic namespace selection" Previous message: Seth Russell: "Re: n3 wishlist: automatic namespace selection" In reply to: Sandro Hawke: "n3 wishlist: automatic namespace 12:14:52 selection" Next in thread: Thomas B. Passin: "Re: n3 wishlist: automatic namespace selection" Next in thread: Sandro Hawke: "Re: n3 wishlist: automatic namespace selection" Reply: Thomas B. Passin: "Re: n3 wishlist: automatic namespace selection" Reply: Graham Klyne: "Re: n3 wishlist: automatic namespace selection" Messages sorted by: [ date ] [ thread ] [ subject ] [ author ] Other 12:14:53 .. a very large amount of text. 12:14:56 :-) 12:54:37 Morbus (~morbus@morbus.totalnetnh.net) has joined #swhack 13:46:25 davb (~dave@rrcs-nys-24-97-22-204.biz.rr.com) has joined #swhack 13:54:16 Ash has quit ("hail satan") 14:10:14 danbri: "if things get squeezed not that one please" 14:14:09 AaronSw: nice topic. It made for a nice early morning laugh 14:14:20 Heh, thanks 14:21:46 whoo. 14:21:51 with my new sound card, i've got winamp. 14:22:12 nice 14:22:17 yah. 14:22:20 listening to classical. 14:52:13 sigh. i really like classical. 16:00:57 xena has quit (Remote closed the connection) 16:38:52 davb has quit () 16:47:05 heh, that was an interesting morning 16:47:22 i had a big gulp of milk in my mouth, and then i sneezed and it got all over my monitor 16:47:40 and then my mouth is like what's up, and so i spit up and the acid burned my trhoat 16:47:47 and this is all while i was on the rdf core telecon 16:49:40 * sbp isn't sure whether to laugh or be sympathetic 16:49:47 bwahahahahahaha! poor you 16:49:59 (problem solved: both) 16:50:06 heh, it was pretty funny 16:50:23 i scrambled for the mute button, i think i only got 'sppt' before i hit it 16:50:32 'sppt' mute 'plughdfkljdfjiodfiodfkldf' 16:50:33 heh, heh 16:51:57 * sbp tells the household and causes no end of hillarity 16:52:07 oh, great 16:52:19 so i tried to wipe it off, but now i've got all this crud on my monitor 16:52:36 heh, heh. well, I don't know what you're so "oh, great"ing at: you've just logged it forever in #swhack! 16:52:47 ew 16:53:14 i was counting on your household to not read swhack... 16:53:25 now it'll be all over the afternoon papers 16:53:33 well, there is one guy that reads is everyday 16:53:49 no, no newspaper tycoons in the household today 16:53:56 btw, where's Stu these days? 16:53:58 you escaped 16:54:07 Stu? he's back at Uni. now 16:54:22 I'm a newspaper tycoon? 16:54:41 er... pardon? 16:55:19 no, no newspaper tycoons in the household today == no. you're lucky that there are no newpaper tycoons in my household today 16:56:10 i was wondering about you escaped 16:56:51 you escaped the humiliation of appearing in the paper 16:56:58 ah 16:57:19 I can just imagine Hot Sex Weekly: "Teenager sprays milky substance over monitor during ilicit call" 16:57:30 * sbp goes into Morbus-mode 16:57:58 since when is rdf core illicit? 16:58:27 and the press'd be hounding you looking for explanations... "milky substance"? That was milk. 16:58:31 are you paracticing to be a writer for martin? 16:58:40 heh, heh, good idea! 16:59:20 illicit: well, they deal with... argh, difficult to get a joke of of that one 16:59:35 Hmm... six-o'-clock! 16:59:38 Gotta run 16:59:46 hmph 17:18:19 hazmat has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 17:55:15 logster (nobody@xd84b5c5a.ip.ggn.net) has joined #swhack 17:55:15 topic is: has anyone ever sent you any actual crap? that'd be quite funny 17:55:15 Users on #swhack: logster redmonk Morbus deltab tansaku jillzilla oierw|school sbp eikeon AaronSw +loggy +walloper deus_x 17:55:47 * jillzilla decides her initial choice of response would get Morbus overexcited. 17:56:04 chumpster (nobody@xd84b5c5a.ip.ggn.net) has joined #swhack 17:56:13 noOO! 17:56:23 _Lion Taming for Dummies_ 17:56:28 tell me! else i'll perish in an anquish as terrible as de... .. uh. 17:56:36 lion taming for dummies. 17:56:38 lion. taming. 17:56:40 ooh, jillium with stage boots and whip 17:56:42 for dummies? 17:56:43 * jillzilla brandishes a chair. 17:56:47 heh, sorry. that was just spontaneous 17:56:50 Baby Pacifiying for Dummies 17:56:55 they made a book called "lion taming for dummies"? 17:56:57 lol! 17:57:02 heheheheh. 17:57:17 talli (~talli@xd84b5c59.ip.ggn.net) has joined #swhack 17:57:26 Making Clothes for Dummies 17:57:38 ooh, innate ambiguity! 17:59:35 Gotta run 17:59:47 run run run! 18:01:10 talilee (~talli@xd84b5c59.ip.ggn.net) has joined #swhack 18:01:11 talli has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 18:02:15 jillzilla, whatcha doing? 18:02:28 [the dreaded question] 18:02:36 mrflgh. eating soup. 18:02:49 what are you doing, Morbus? Or should I not ask? 18:03:05 i'm monkey enterign data into a database, and looking for a good oldies station streamed. 18:03:37 Bored, eh? 18:04:01 pff. i just... hey, shit, you didn't sere it! 18:04:02 oh man,. 18:04:10 i made teh most embarrassing thing of my life. 18:04:16 dear me! 18:04:36 it just makes me cringe that i had something to do with it. 18:04:36 you ready for this jillzilla? 18:04:36 you ready? oh man. 18:04:36 telltelltell! 18:04:43 you're gonna lose all respect for me. 18:04:44 * jillzilla battens down the hatches. 18:04:48 I *have* no respect for you. 18:04:53 talilee is now known as talli 18:04:54 LOL. yesssss! 18:05:40 talli has left #swhack 18:06:10 GabeW (~Gabe@12-236-237-100.client.attbi.com) has joined #swhack 18:06:23 AaronSw has changed the topic to: FYEO: The BAA for ARDA's NIMD Program is on the NIMA web site. 18:06:33 redmonk has left #swhack 18:06:43 redmonk (~steve@63.149.73.20) has joined #swhack 18:06:56 Morbus: I find this...curiously enticing. 18:07:04 why!? 18:07:08 because you have dirt on me now. 18:07:17 something ot hang over my head at important functions. 18:07:26 "hey, dave winer! guess what Morbus did?!" 18:07:33 lol 18:07:37 Is there anyone in this channel other than AaronSw who actually leaves the house? 18:07:42 me 18:07:43 uhh. 18:07:46 Morbus walks to work. 18:07:49 the sporks attack if I leave. 18:07:54 yeah, its like two blocks. 18:07:59 the comic shop is halfway between. 18:08:01 18:08:03 jillzilla has changed the topic to: When Sporks Attack 18:08:25 I ride my bike to work five times a week and drive once. 18:08:48 * redmonk would do that but he has a 25 mile commute 18:09:01 and it gets 120 here in the summer 18:09:06 * jillzilla nods. Yeah, I was doing 7.2 miles and it got a bit old. 18:09:12 I take the train. 18:09:14 120? just fucking kill me. 18:09:26 Who here has a driver's license? 18:09:28 can i rape your dea... uh. 18:09:39 i really wish I had a delete key. 18:09:42 Morbus, stop 18:10:16 I want to buy essential oils from this company. It's the big flowers... 18:10:17 some of us are in the presence of co-workers... 18:10:35 "hey steve is chatting to someone about necrophilia!" 18:10:37 I have a learner's permit. It's sorta like a driver's license. 18:10:41 redmonk has left #swhack 18:10:46 redmonk, whoo! i got pictures too! 18:10:49 redmonk (~steve@63.149.73.20) has joined #swhack 18:10:54 redmonk, /clear 18:10:58 AaronSw: Does that mean you can drive in California if there is a licensed driver over the age of 21 with you? 18:11:12 I was wondering about that. I think so. 18:11:21 aaron - thx 18:11:23 ;-) 18:11:29 Road trip with Aaron driiiiiiving! 18:11:35 whoo! 18:11:51 * redmonk packs his airbag 18:12:12 Anyone have a car? 18:12:36 "Click a flower above" 18:12:37 i hate cars. 18:12:39 i hate driving. 18:12:43 Morbus, I really have lost respect for you. 18:12:45 shuddup, jillzilla, just shuddup. 18:12:50 I'm trying to get back our 1985 Volvo stationwagon so I can drive it. 18:12:59 Morbus: do you have a license to drive? 18:13:21 only to kill 18:13:23 ;-) 18:13:29 jillzilla, nope. 18:13:30 double-oh-morbus 18:13:31 * jillzilla has a license to stomp. 18:13:34 never wanted it. 18:13:58 I didn't want it either, but my parents were horrified at the idea of me not learning to drive. So I learned. 18:13:59 I don't particularly want one either, but hey... 18:14:06 jinx 18:14:09 And it turned out to be a good thing, because that meant I could escape. 18:14:24 well, i guess i was the odd man out - i couldn't wait for mine 18:14:42 * jillzilla points at redmonk and laughs. 18:14:42 learned to drive on a 1986 volkswagon vanagon 18:14:50 manual 18:14:53 Oh, wow. Those things aren't like any other vehicle. :-) 18:14:58 nope 18:15:10 and i was a scrawny 90lb 15 yr old 18:15:16 it was... entertaining 18:15:25 I learned on manual transmission too. It took several business trips with rental cars before I stopped being a danger to all humanity in an automatic transmission. 18:15:34 I bet you built up the biceps. 18:15:39 uh huh 18:15:54 i think the shifter was about 4' long 18:16:07 * redmonk may be exagerrating 18:16:23 GabeW has quit ("Client Exiting") 18:16:27 But it's at least 3'. I've driven a VW van. My father had one. 18:16:43 it's crazy trying to shift that thing 18:16:50 When he died, I inherited it and eventually ended up selling it for $40 or something. 18:16:53 and the steering wheel was HUGE 18:17:01 My later-housemate and I named it "Mobile Group Sex". 18:17:09 lol 18:17:11 But the word "Mobile" was kind of dubious. 18:17:28 Yeah, they shift like hell. They steer like hell. They have no brakes. 18:17:30 Horrible. 18:17:32 jillzilla and morbus are a volatile combintion 18:17:52 are we? 18:17:56 why's that// 18:18:16 Volatile like the scent components of essential oils. Hey, I know this great site that sells essential oils and where the flowers actually _grow_...it's so cool! 18:18:24 oh god. 18:18:27 no. please no. 18:18:30 * Morbus weeps. 18:18:34 we've gone from necrophilia to mobile group sex in .... eight minutes 18:18:38 hehehe. 18:18:46 lovely 18:18:53 And without even sbp. 18:18:56 * jillzilla pines for sbp. 18:18:58 swhack is like no where else, that's fer sure 18:19:27 that's a high compliment. 18:19:31 Speaking of pines, they have some excellent essential oils. Dunno what got me thinking about that. 18:19:46 hey, i remember this website about essential oils... 18:19:53 let me see if i can find the URL: 18:19:58 .google morbus severe embarassment oils 18:19:59 * Morbus coughs. 18:20:02 bwahahahah 18:20:09 hm, where'd xena go 18:20:17 [12:01] *** Signoff: xena (Remote closed the connection) 18:20:24 it being 14:20 my time. 18:20:25 .seen xena 18:20:27 whoa, google's got a new look 18:20:28 oh, wait. 18:20:42 new look? 18:20:47 and it auto-corrected my spelling 18:21:00 lamer. 18:21:14 ick, using meta refresh and javascript! 18:21:20 did someone hack into the google site or what? 18:21:27 what google are you looking at? 18:21:36 www.google.com for morbus severe embarassment oils 18:22:06 * AaronSw blogs using that as an example 18:22:06 ah, the spelling thing 18:22:16 hehe 18:22:22 Has that been there for a while and I've never mispelled something that bad? 18:22:49 google.blogspace is going to be the authori-tay on 'morbus embarassment" 18:23:13 redmonk has left #swhack 18:23:37 redmonk (~steve@63.149.73.20) has joined #swhack 18:23:39 ugh 18:23:50 i keep accidentally closing thee window 18:24:23 * jillzilla just switched to netscape 6 yesterday. 18:24:31 <-- not an early adopter. 18:24:37 odd. when i try it from curl I get 403 forbidden 18:24:45 is curl a machine or a browser? 18:24:50 a browser 18:25:04 it's a new flash thingy ;-) 18:26:36 * AaronSw googleblogs 18:26:41 hmm. 18:26:42 wait a minute. 18:26:45 what if we want the mispelling? 18:26:50 like, that britney spears thing. 18:26:57 where's the fun in that sort of analysis? 18:27:11 was this BECAUSE of the brintey spears thing? 18:27:29 AaronSw has changed the topic to: steveb was suggetsing I go to the mac store and look at macs 18:27:55 it's only if you get zero results, it seems 18:36:18 y'all a bunch o' #-addicts 18:36:22 heh 18:37:47 anyone here a guitar nut? 18:38:04 Google: "Thank you for writing to Google. We read all of the mail we receive. This note is just to let you know that we've received the letter you sent. We hope this helps and we thank you for writing to Google." 18:38:08 How is that supposed to help? 18:38:42 That would only help if my problem is something like "Google never sends me form letters" or "I want Google to read one of my emails" 18:39:03 hey - does mozilla have a way to define your own shortcuts in the address bar? 18:39:06 ie 18:39:10 google foo bar 18:39:20 Protozilla might be good for that 18:39:38 http://protozilla.mozdev.org/ 18:40:06 oh wait... i remember this now 18:41:08 aha: http://www.google.com/mozilla/google-search.html 18:41:52 redmonk, yeah it does. 18:41:55 ahhh 18:41:56 its built ... 18:41:57 oh right. 18:42:08 Oh, cool, I was going to send instructions for that. I didn't realize we had put them up. 18:42:10 redmonk, hold on. 18:42:18 Morbus, i found it 18:42:24 http://www.mozilla.org/docs/end-user/keywords.html 18:42:30 i found a better one though ;) 18:42:39 teaching how to fish. 18:42:42 i was gonna paste that 18:42:51 ah. 18:42:53 really! i was! 18:42:55 didn't i show you that once. 18:42:57 i dunno 18:43:00 yeah, i think you did 18:43:01 i know i showed someone in here. 18:43:04 that's my URL! mine! 18:43:07 only I can give it out 18:43:23 also: http://developer.netscape.com/evangelism/docs/articles/bookmarks/ 18:43:31 that has graphics! so there 18:43:33 ooh. didn't have that one. 18:43:35 18:44:56 * redmonk is so happy now! 18:45:02 * Morbus listens to streamingsoundtracks.com 18:45:07 * redmonk hacks all his search bookmarks 18:45:09 hehehe. 18:46:30 mwahaha, Zap rocks 18:47:07 zap? 18:47:24 from http://www.smokinggun.com/demos/bookmarklets.php 18:48:18 ooh, i like clean rad. 18:48:22 clean read, ather. 18:49:42 how come slashdot rejects my submission, but then posts the same thing from somebody else a day later? 18:49:45 zap does indeed rock. 18:50:06 because they're following apple policy on contributions. 18:50:24 which is? giving steve jobs all the credit? 18:50:32 nope. no one under 18 can contribute. 18:50:39 how do they know my age? 18:50:46 Morbus told them. 18:50:52 * Morbus beams proudly 18:50:55 * AaronSw strangles Morbus 18:51:16 * Morbus looks downtrodden and increasingly red. 18:51:38 heh: My PGP public key is: 0 18:54:48 * Morbus thinks he's gonna upg to mt2.0 today for gg. 18:54:53 AaronSw, did you upg? 18:55:08 yeah, as soon as it came out 18:55:26 i did it on dnn, but not gg, since that's more critical. 18:55:44 It was very easy, once i fixed some permissions problems 18:55:47 Morbus is talking in acronyms. 18:56:08 MB upg mt2.0 for gg but not dnn 18:56:44 * jillzilla decides not to wear shoes. 18:57:13 heh. 18:57:18 my gg export for mt is 2.4 megs. 18:57:24 one of my entries has over 350 commetns. 19:00:44 ooh! http://www.google.com/dmca.html 19:02:24 * AaronSw googleblogs 19:27:59 Reply to a comment on a /. article....unfortunately, probably no one will see it since I can't sign onto my account from work :) http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=30906&threshold=-1&commentsort=0&tid=95&mode=flat&pid=3324348 19:28:07 Galahad (xena@mewtwo.espnow.com) has joined #swhack 19:37:49 * AaronSw gets a call to give an impromptu explanation of Brilliant Digital to suits. bleeech 19:38:36 Galahad is now known as xena 19:43:29 davb (~dave@rrcs-nys-24-97-22-204.biz.rr.com) has joined #swhack 19:46:05 I hate explaining things I don't know about to suits. 19:49:33 heh. heh. 19:49:40 uh, how did you get into explaining something you don't know? 19:49:45 upg to 2.0 went fine over at gg. 19:49:49 cool. 19:50:06 i don't know... the phone rang, i picked it up and all of the sudden there wrre suits asking me questions 19:50:12 yeah, the one "issue" i was having over at dnn didn't replicate becuase i don't use time-based archives. 19:50:21 aww. cos you're all special and shit. 19:50:35 i think it's because my phone number is on my website 19:50:43 i should probably take it off if this keeps happening 19:51:15 Am I getting more cynical and unpleasant or is it just me? 19:51:48 i think... 19:51:50 i think... 19:51:55 i think i'm proud of you son ;) 19:52:19 that'd be one for "more cynical and unpleasant" then 19:54:08 ehehehe. 20:01:45 ew. 20:01:50 AaronSw, swhack/weblog is fuxored. 20:02:10 bad Morbus 20:02:18 wha? what'd i do. 20:02:24 did i not read the backlog. 20:02:26 sigh. 20:02:43 never mind, just reload it a few times and it'll start working 20:02:49 whoo hoo! 20:02:53 * Morbus sets up his ddos kit 20:02:59 i meant like 2 20:03:04 oh. 20:03:07 * Morbus deflates. 20:04:04 this is a scary sentence: The rdfd:lex property associates a literal node object which is presumed to be a member of the lexical space of some (possibly unspecified) datatype (a lexical form) with a non-literal node subject denoting the single member of the value space of the same datatype as the lexical form and which is represented by that lexical form. 20:07:37 hmm. 20:07:42 AaronSw. got a question. 20:07:49 yes? 20:07:54 say I post the same email to 30 different lists. a typical crosspost. 20:08:27 with only the headers to look at, is there a "fool-proofish" way of having leecharoo say "i've already seen this emssage, so i'm not oging to get the body". 20:08:38 i was thinking of checking subj and date, but that doesn't work down to the second. 20:11:31 message-id 20:12:07 ugh, so much backlog 20:12:13 i thought that was determined by the desintation server, not the client. 20:12:19 but i just tried it here, and you're right. 20:12:21 you guys suck. stop talking when I'm not around 20:12:28 i initially had thought of that, but got confused i guess. 20:16:30 la la la 20:16:54 * sbp harmonizes lo li la le lo 20:20:54 TIBOOK!!!! 20:21:02 aha: http://www.siliconvalley.com/mld/siliconvalley/news/local/3031960.htm 20:21:19 * redmonk dances jig with tibook computing over 802.11 20:27:10 sbp: i asked you once what kind of guitar you have right? 20:27:16 what was the answer? 20:28:32 hey no fair. 20:28:33 http://www.sacbee.com/state_wire/story/2106218p-2447198c.html 20:28:39 mimicks a story i wrote called Morgue Rats. 20:28:56 over at http://www.disobey.com/collected/morbus_iff/morgue_rats.shtml 20:28:58 i think 20:28:59 or html. 20:29:00 one of those. 20:29:04 or maybe htm 20:29:05 i dunno 20:30:21 davb has quit () 20:33:23 redmonk: I have a Squier Strat 20:33:27 ah 20:33:29 right 20:33:29 and a Marshall amp 20:33:31 thx 20:33:37 np 20:33:55 * redmonk is trying to convince his wife to let him trade in one of their acoustics on an electric 20:34:09 6-string acounstic? fair enough 20:34:18 yeah 20:34:26 small body with pickup 20:34:36 it's kinda twangy 20:35:07 ugh. Go get a Rickenbacker, Les Paul, or Strat 20:35:25 and a pedal. turn up the volume, away you go 20:35:41 * redmonk lusts after peter buck's 360 jetpro 20:35:47 er, jetglo 20:36:23 but does not have 1400 er, bucks, to pay for it ;-) 20:36:30 hehe 20:41:35 heh, I know the feeling 20:49:48 for the token stream option, would it be better have a token stream of the input before processing, or after? 20:50:51 man, that's weird, 20:51:12 oh nveemrind. 20:51:39 * sbp reckons after processing would be better 20:56:32 what's this token stream? 21:09:41 hehehe 21:09:44 sbp: http://odaymp3.tripod.com/n00b.txt 21:11:53 we should start a deltree posse. 21:14:35 that is so mean 21:14:57 you know about neo85, right? 21:15:26 yeah, but you didn't erase his hard drive 21:15:38 ... .. uh. 21:15:44 did you? 21:15:52 i didn't, no. 21:16:02 you jerks! 21:16:23 AaronSw has changed the topic to: * timbl2 asks admin to order an osx powerbook 21:18:01 powerbook: cooooooool 21:18:20 * redmonk contemplates the takeover of the open source world by os x 21:18:37 and the imminent death of linux-on-the-desktop 21:18:41 hahaha 21:18:43 j/k 21:19:29 BSD-on-the-desktop, baby 21:19:46 haha 21:19:49 yeeeeessss 21:21:58 i can' tbelieve you blogged the morbus severe thing. 21:22:00 heh. that's so cool. 21:25:34 woo! i got in the internet.com newsletter 21:26:00 for what? 21:26:05 google api 21:26:21 cool. 21:27:01 man, "Clean Read" bookmarklet rocks. 21:29:52 * AaronSw puts on his Medium is the Massage LP 21:29:58 Massage? 21:30:03 yeah 21:30:06 ? 21:30:35 Parrot: The Medium is the Massage. The Medium is the Massage Marshall McLuhan. Marshall McLuhan. 21:31:29 i got the mp3 if you want it 21:31:34 sure. 21:31:37 up it to anony disobey 21:31:48 it's faster to download it 21:31:54 on a 56k modem? 21:32:08 oh, you're at home? 21:32:08 faster to send it via. CD and post 21:32:20 i'm in a quiet office where my bosses wife reads. 21:32:25 its not something i'd be playiung here ;) 21:32:27 no headphones? 21:32:38 nope. because that admits that i'm going to be listening to music. 21:32:41 where's anony disobey 21:32:46 ftp.disobey.com 21:32:53 i mean physically 21:32:54 /incoming 21:33:02 oh. uh. new hampshire. 21:33:19 i meant more like office or home? 21:33:20 if i leech from home, i'll get about 10k a sec, since it's same server 21:33:30 ... 21:33:42 so can you log into it and do `wget http://web.archive.org/web/http://www.aaronsw.com/mcluhan.mp3`? 21:33:42 its physcally at the office. i won't listen to it until i get home. 21:33:50 oh forget. 21:33:56 its too much hassle for a passing interest. 21:34:00 hmph 21:34:47 lol @ http://odaymp3.tripod.com/n00b.txt 21:34:53 :) 21:35:00 but that guy thought he was being hacked, so that's a little sad... 21:35:04 yeah. 21:35:08 our guy was asking how to hack a server 21:35:17 but see, what sucks is that like half the people we're like "uh, you're a moron. that's normal". 21:35:24 oh yeah, i hear ya. 21:35:31 we were protecting other people. they were just being malicious ;) 21:35:37 precisely! :-) 21:35:41 :) 21:35:52 if we're going to stick to a story... 21:36:38 McLuhan: "the expert is the man who stays put" 21:38:27 " 21:38:37 [OLM] 21:42:30 redmonk has quit (Remote closed the connection) 21:45:33 Morbus has quit ("http://www.disobey.com/") 21:45:45 redmonk (~steve@63.149.73.20) has joined #swhack 21:51:29 GabeW (~Gabe@12-236-237-100.client.attbi.com) has joined #swhack 21:56:53 "schitzofrenia may be a necessary consequence of literacy" 21:57:11 hm. 21:57:40 s/schitzofrenia/schitzophrenia/ 21:57:50 interesting quote tho 22:00:46 art is anything you can get away with 22:01:09 kind of like grand larceny 22:01:16 that way 22:01:48 speak, that i may seeeeeee yoooooooou 22:01:59 "The young person today is a dataprocessor on a very large scale." 22:02:25 oh, yeah, give the *kids* all the credit 22:02:28 ;-) 22:42:18 sbp has changed the topic to: no, people who write useful documents in turing complete languages are losers 22:51:57 GabeW has quit ("Client Exiting") 22:57:46 talli (~talli@xd84b5c59.ip.ggn.net) has joined #swhack 23:04:16 talli has left #swhack 23:15:37 oierw|school has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 23:22:25 i love this photo: http://www.aaronsw.com/photos/misc/IMG_0853.JPG/view - it's my new desktop background 23:22:51 heh 23:23:15 in fact, i love all of the http://www.aaronsw.com/photos/misc/ photos 23:25:09 i'm getting better, i guess 23:37:25 * AaronSw uploads some photos, finding a decent FTP client (Fetch) 23:39:49 * sbp wrote his own 23:39:54 or I just use IE 23:47:44 yeah, IE doesn't have upload here. 23:49:15 ok, that takes care of all the p2pcon photos... 23:55:58 Hmm... @use/@prefix default/@keyword are quite useless 23:56:09 why? 23:56:29 you add lines of @xxx declarations just to get rid of a few colons 23:56:50 well, I guess there's a benefit if you use lots of different @use declarations 23:57:08 but I think it makes it tricky to read 23:57:12 perhaps they should be offloaded to a file on the web or something 23:57:25 @style 23:57:32 n3s can load files from the Web and use those prefixes etc. instead 23:58:29 e.g. 23:58:30 [[[ 23:58:30 $ u n3splunge -si=http://infomesh.net/2002/apr-test.n3 'a gunge blargh .' 23:58:31 @prefix : . 23:58:31 @prefix rdf: . 23:58:31 rdf:type :gunge :blargh . 23:58:32 ]]] 23:58:43 cool 23:59:11 the thought is that people can have local config files, or merge files using cat and pipe in 23:59:31 (to pipe in a config file, just use -i without an =id thing) 23:59:43 it's fully working - I could release it now 23:59:48 but it's a weekend... argh