IRC log of swhack on 2002-04-12

Timestamps are in UTC.

00:00:00 [redmonk]

wash your mouth out!

00:00:03 [sbp]

wha? wha?! what did I do?

00:00:03 [sbp]

heh, heh

00:00:12 [redmonk]

that's practically perl

00:00:15 [sbp]

oh no, I made Python look like Perl!

00:00:21 [sbp]

* sbp runs screaming into a wall

00:00:28 [redmonk]

*splutch*

00:00:31 [sbp]

heh. *splutch(

00:00:35 [sbp]

aw, you beat me to it!

00:01:59 [sbp]

I used [ and ] to delimit the input since bash is a bit anal about quotes etc.

00:02:12 [Morbus]

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00:02:20 [sbp]

it runs quite well:-

00:02:21 [sbp]

$ python otp.py [blargh] [gunge]

00:02:21 [sbp]

5 25 15 21 2 72

00:02:24 [sbp]

hey there Morbus!

00:02:37 [redmonk]

hi morb

00:02:50 [redmonk]

sbp: show morbus your perlized python

00:02:54 [Morbus]

hey.

00:03:20 [xoot]

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00:03:27 [Ash]

$__underscore__

00:03:36 [redmonk]

lol

00:03:53 [redmonk]

while @__list__

00:03:54 [sbp]

my Perlized Python:-

00:03:55 [sbp]

[[[

00:03:55 [sbp]

import sys; p=['','']; (x,p[0],y,p[1],z)=' '.join(sys.argv[1:]

00:03:55 [sbp]

).replace('[',']').split(']'); p[(len(p[0])>len(p[1]))]=[p[0].ljust(

00:03:55 [sbp]

len(p[1])),p[1].ljust(len(p[0]))][(len(p[0])>len(p[1]))]; print ' '.join(

00:03:55 [sbp]

[str(ord(p[0][i])^ord(p[1][i])) for i in range(len(p[0]))])

00:03:56 [sbp]

]]]

00:04:01 [sbp]

now sans whitespace!

00:04:03 [sbp]

:-)

00:04:06 [redmonk]

heh

00:04:36 [Morbus]

whoo hoo!

00:04:37 [Morbus]

<G>

00:05:59 [tansaku]

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00:06:07 [AaronSw]

wtf does it do, sbp?

00:06:28 [Morbus]

doo?!

00:06:36 [Morbus]

part of the fun of obfuscation is figuring it out.

00:06:38 [Morbus]

tell me in a week ;)

00:06:41 [redmonk]

hehe

00:08:38 [AaronSw]

btw, morbus, the syndic8 thing didn't work cuz my feed didn't start with <?xml

00:08:47 [Morbus]

ah.

00:09:46 [Morbus]

sigh.

00:09:49 [Morbus]

stupid snak.

00:09:55 [Morbus]

i'm using the tabbed view.

00:10:03 [Morbus]

and it doesn't cycle from the beginning to end of the channel list.

00:10:57 [redmonk]

oh, quit whining, Morb. ;-)

00:11:40 [Morbus]

heheheh. never!

00:11:47 [Morbus]

the world can be better if everyone listens to *me*!

00:11:59 [redmonk]

* redmonk runs in circles, fingers in ears

00:12:05 [redmonk]

"nobodies listening!"

00:12:13 [redmonk]

"yada yada yada yada..."

00:12:27 [redmonk]

er, nobody's

00:16:24 [sbp]

* sbp listens to Isis

00:16:56 [sbp]

er... the song. Nothing to do with rm and Morb's conversation

00:16:59 [Morbus]

* Morbus listens to ani difranco

00:17:05 [jillzilla]

mmmmmmmm, ani.

00:17:09 [Morbus]

jillzilla!

00:17:14 [jillzilla]

Morbus!

00:17:19 [Morbus]

automatic number identification?

00:17:21 [redmonk]

* redmonk groans

00:17:26 [Morbus]

bwahahahah

00:17:33 [AaronSw]

ANI rocks, it lets me see who's calling

00:17:52 [Morbus]

heheheh.

00:18:02 [Morbus]

i used to have a few ani numbers that would read back your current line.

00:19:07 [AaronSw]

wicked podracer, ani

00:19:17 [jillzilla]

* jillzilla winces.

00:19:23 [Morbus]

now i'm listening to my life with the thrill kill kult

00:19:36 [redmonk]

jillzilla: let's kill 'em

00:19:38 [sbp]

wit'thwha?

00:19:43 [Morbus]

heh.

00:19:56 [Morbus]

go search for "radio silicon". that's currently playing

00:20:01 [redmonk]

* redmonk would love to hear "hold me thrill me kiss me kill me"

00:24:54 [sbp]

sbp has changed the topic to: "Your loyalty is not to me, but to the stars above" - Bob Dylan

00:25:20 [sbp]

[from "One More Cup Of Coffee"]

00:27:31 [AaronSw]

woo: http://diveintomark.org/projects/pygoogle/pygoogle-0.1.zip

00:27:40 [sbp]

ooh

00:35:33 [redmonk]

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00:42:17 [Morbus]

back to work at oreilly.

00:42:27 [sbp]

nicer formatting:-

00:42:28 [sbp]

[[[

00:42:28 [sbp]

import sys;n=len;x=' '.join(sys.argv[1:]).replace('[',']').split(']')

00:42:28 [sbp]

p=[x[1],x[3]];p[(n(p[0])>n(p[1]))]=[p[0].ljust(n(p[1])),p[1].ljust(n(

00:42:28 [sbp]

p[0]))][(n(p[0])>n(p[1]))];print ' '.join([str(ord(p[0][i])^ord(p[1][

00:42:28 [sbp]

i])) for i in range(n(p[0]))])

00:42:29 [sbp]

]]]

00:42:37 [sbp]

well, forSome ?nicer

00:42:52 [sbp]

back to work? more articles? A T.V. miniseries?

00:46:45 [AaronSw]

Gotta run

00:46:53 [sbp]

c'ya

00:48:24 [sbp]

Empaths are the best kind of people... except for hobos

00:49:08 [sbp]

ah, as Black Diamond Bay starts playing over my earphones...

00:49:49 [sbp]

* sbp loves this album

00:53:15 [sbp]

* sbp stacks his money, thinks about breaking illusions

00:56:46 [Morbus]

* Morbus turns on some game music.

00:58:46 [Morbus]

holy crap.

00:58:46 [Morbus]

i forgot all about my decepticons piece.

00:58:52 [Morbus]

heh, heh. dammit.

01:03:36 [Morbus]

lol.

01:03:36 [Morbus]

[[[

01:03:36 [Morbus]

You know some day it's going to happen. You'll be sipping you uber cafe grande mocha expresso chalupa when you here your webserver's hard drive chirping like a squirrel gone mad in a world of nuts.

01:03:36 [Morbus]

]]]

01:03:36 [Morbus]

man.

01:03:42 [Morbus]

that's what i come up with when i haven't written for weeks.

01:03:53 [Morbus]

i shoudl go for months! sheer brilliance is afoot!

01:06:37 [jillzilla]

"mocha expresso chalupa". How...Morbus.

01:06:53 [GabeW]

hmm

01:06:57 [Morbus]

* Morbus bows.

01:06:57 [Morbus]

:)

01:07:05 [jillzilla]

;-)

01:07:11 [Morbus]

er. hear, rathr.

01:08:51 [Morbus]

here's the full summary:

01:08:57 [Morbus]

[[[

01:08:57 [Morbus]

You know some day it's going to happen. You'll be sipping you uber cafe grande mocha expresso chalupa when you hear your webserver's hard drive chirping like a squirrel gone mad in a world of nuts. Either it's the slashdot effect hitting your server unexpectantly, some developer with an infinite loop, or a misguided user repeatedly trying to publish repeatedly with Front Page. Either way, you need to make a change to your server configuration fa

01:08:57 [Morbus]

u can use Apache's IfDefine directive?

01:08:57 [Morbus]

]]]

01:09:14 [Morbus]

needs work, of course.

01:09:39 [Morbus]

pff: "repeatedly trying to publish repeatedly"

01:09:44 [Morbus]

department of redundancy, dept.

01:11:03 [Morbus]

oh, sbp, about your [[[ ]]] thing.

01:11:19 [Morbus]

it never dawned on me, but {{{ }}} is a wiki styling thing too.

01:11:25 [Morbus]

it's a pre.

01:15:10 [sbp]

in the normal Wiki, a single space preformats, IIRC

01:21:03 [sbp]

lol @ <Morbus> department of redundancy, dept.

01:36:53 [sbp]

"Everyobdy wants to make a long distance call, but you know: they're just going to have to wait"

01:38:37 [sbp]

ah, music... of sweet melody and rhythmical verse

01:40:38 [sbp]

* sbp recalls that he started on a songwriting essay

01:40:57 [sbp]

although I like to call it an article

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01:44:04 [xoot]

hello

01:44:31 [sbp]

"If your memory serves you well..."

01:44:33 [sbp]

Hi

01:44:33 [MorbusIff]

where's your suit?

01:46:12 [sbp]

it's off playing with the joker

01:47:04 [MorbusIff]

hey, xoot, i heard you had a y0y0y0y0y0 weblog.

01:47:10 [MorbusIff]

wuzzzzz the addy, bitchie?

01:47:39 [xoot]

xoot has changed the topic to: "Maine students receive first iBooks as part of the largest wireless laptop deployment in history." - apple.com 04/11/02

01:47:45 [MorbusIff]

bitchie bitch, bitchmaster mitch, bitcharoo banzai.

01:47:58 [xoot]

yes, i have a blog

01:48:03 [MorbusIff]

ok.

01:48:08 [MorbusIff]

can we get the objective version of that?

01:48:17 [sbp]

si

01:48:20 [MorbusIff]

like "but they have to give steve jobs blowjobs" - microsoft.com

01:48:35 [sbp]

lol!

01:48:38 [xoot]

no

01:48:55 [MorbusIff]

no?

01:49:04 [xoot]

steve jobs is cool

01:49:27 [sbp]

yeah Morbus. Don't badmouth any OSX folks (even if you're not)

01:49:43 [xoot]

* xoot fingers his anti-PS ammo in his pocket

01:49:50 [xoot]

*PC

01:50:05 [MorbusIff]

i hate os x.

01:50:16 [MorbusIff]

jesus christ.

01:50:16 [MorbusIff]

talk about playskool os.

01:50:16 [MorbusIff]

candy fucking buttons everywhere.

01:50:25 [MorbusIff]

next thing you know, they're gonna have a clippy daemon runnign around the desktop.

01:50:34 [xoot]

yeah?

01:50:35 [MorbusIff]

'looks like your trying to open an application, may I help you?!".

01:50:35 [MorbusIff]

sheesh.

01:50:38 [xoot]

how about windows xp?

01:50:46 [xoot]

fisher-price

01:50:55 [xoot]

at least with os x, you have unix

01:51:02 [MorbusIff]

you mean with the teletubbies background?

01:51:07 [xoot]

huh?

01:51:22 [xoot]

you mean the windows xp stupid grass and sky bg?

01:51:25 [MorbusIff]

yeah, but its a bastard unix that no one in their normal Mac loving mind would ever use.

01:51:26 [MorbusIff]

they hid it too well, and they don't have a package manager.

01:51:33 [xoot]

:P

01:51:35 [xoot]

get fink

01:51:38 [MorbusIff]

making security updates useless unless apple supplies them to you.

01:51:38 [MorbusIff]

yeah...

01:51:42 [xoot]

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01:51:55 [MorbusIff]

uh.

01:52:03 [sbp]

oh dear... please, no... "bbl"? ugh

01:52:09 [MorbusIff]

like, i'm gonna go to my boss and be like "yeah, this os x thingy? it has this non-apple supplied package manager called fink!"

01:52:14 [MorbusIff]

no, not fink, like bad fink.

01:52:14 [MorbusIff]

wtf.

01:52:22 [MorbusIff]

i'm trying to argue with this mofo.

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01:52:53 [sbp]

well, he's not here. difficult to argue with someone when they're not here :-)

01:53:23 [MorbusIff]

his reality distortion field must be running low/

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01:56:56 [sbp]

Morb, set a good topic, couldya?

01:57:54 [sbp]

hang on, I've got it covered

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01:58:11 [MorbusIff]

MorbusIff has changed the topic to: The Rough Guide to Sex, with your host, Morbus.

01:58:26 [MorbusIff]

ack! i used ansi.

01:58:26 [MorbusIff]

stupid fucking snak.

01:58:31 [MorbusIff]

does it automatically i think

01:58:53 [MorbusIff]

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01:59:05 [sbp]

heh, fair enough. I was going to try to set a "why are you experiencing so much bliss? does it give you a hand job?"esque topic, (from http://jerryandpatti.com/~patti/)

01:59:39 [Morbus]

ah.

01:59:48 [sbp]

you and your ansified ways

01:59:52 [Morbus]

that one came from cos I was all looking around for something to say.

02:00:03 [Morbus]

and i got a free "the rough guide to videogaming" book sent to me.

02:00:03 [Morbus]

oh, hey, get this.

02:00:20 [Morbus]

ok. you know, gamegrene.com? yeah, well, it accepts free crap in the mail, right?

02:00:22 [sbp]

aw man, people never send me free stuff!

02:00:25 [Morbus]

so, i get free crap once a week, no big deal, typical gaming stuff.

02:00:28 [sbp]

Uh huh

02:00:57 [sbp]

has anyone ever sent you any actual crap? that'd be quite funny

02:01:14 [Morbus]

lsat week, some fucking guy sends me "what do you know", some book full of questions like "why is the sky blue" or "why do my hairy nuts move by themselves on hot summer days".

02:01:14 [Morbus]

it has aboslutely nothing to do with games.

02:01:18 [sbp]

"Hi, I just thought I'd send you more free crap. Use it on your lawn"

02:01:24 [Morbus]

the funny thing is, it's a relativley interesting book.

02:01:29 [Morbus]

so I have no clue what this guy wants me to do with it.

02:01:34 [sbp]

lol @ "why do my hairy nuts move by themselves on hot summer days"

02:01:42 [Morbus]

he sent me a form/cover letter. nothing personal.

02:01:47 [Morbus]

* Morbus shrugs

02:01:52 [Morbus]

it's a bathroom book now.

02:02:08 [sbp]

* sbp cracks up; loves these vignettes

02:02:13 [Morbus]

I've asked myself that question. have you watched your nuts when they're hanging low?

02:02:19 [Morbus]

they flipping move around like they're yin and yanging.

02:02:29 [Morbus]

:)

02:02:52 [sbp]

must... resist... the... urge... to... ask... why...

02:03:03 [Morbus]

that's my vignette. back to writing. :)

02:03:09 [Morbus]

I... DON'T... KNOW!

02:03:09 [sbp]

Pff

02:03:17 [sbp]

you said it was in the book!

02:03:23 [sbp]

Pff, you lied, didn't you?

02:03:34 [sbp]

.google why do my hairy nuts move by themselves on hot summer days?

02:03:35 [xena]

why do my hairy nuts move by themselves on hot summer days: http://www.mountain-portal.co.uk/text/sierra/Sierr02.htm

02:03:35 [Morbus]

i don't know that, and i don't know why i have a jellybean sized bump that changes thickness on my butt where a tale would grow.

02:03:41 [sbp]

hey, there we go

02:03:41 [Morbus]

a tail, rather.

02:03:46 [Morbus]

and that's the truth.

02:03:46 [Morbus]

wanna see? <G>

02:03:51 [sbp]

argh!

02:04:03 [sbp]

* sbp is mildly frightened

02:04:04 [Morbus]

what?

02:04:22 [Morbus]

yeah, katie says I should get it looked at.

02:04:25 [sbp]

Hmm... "They eat all kinds of nuts long before they are ripe, and yet never seem to suffer in stomach."

02:04:28 [Morbus]

but i *want* to grow a tale.

02:04:28 [Morbus]

a tail.

02:04:41 [sbp]

an anecdote

02:04:44 [Morbus]

i don't wnat no doctor removing this thing before it meets its full potential.

02:05:13 [sbp]

oh dear me, I'm so glad that this stuff is logged

02:05:35 [Morbus]

hehehehe

02:05:52 [sbp]

one day if I'm bored/upset, I'll just be all like, "ooh, swhacklogs time!"

02:06:09 [sbp]

"today: the mystery of Morbus' lump"

02:06:24 [sbp]

bizarre

02:06:43 [Morbus]

:)

02:06:43 [Morbus]

you should package them as a book.

02:06:58 [Morbus]

conversations from past the fringe: how I learned to bathe myself in Morbus.

02:07:00 [sbp]

sorta like the guy that packaged the world up as a mental institution. In HHG

02:07:05 [sbp]

heh, heh

02:09:23 [sbp]

we really are at the butt end of culture and society, aren't we? I love that

02:10:19 [sbp]

heh, people should be thinking "Hmm... if these are their on long conversations, what are their off-log conversations like?"

02:10:33 [sbp]

on long? Pff. I'm going

02:10:34 [Morbus]

yes, but remember, in many bad horror flicks, what comes out the butt end turns into something evil and then bites you in the ass.

02:10:39 [Morbus]

why do you think I own devilshat.com and poopgod.com? <G>

02:11:10 [sbp]

funny how the arse end is always rejected uncessearily

02:11:20 [sbp]

I mean, without it, you'd explode

02:11:45 [sbp]

right, I really am off now

02:11:49 [sbp]

.time bst

02:11:49 [xena]

Apr. 12, 2002 3:11 am GMT+1

02:11:50 [Morbus]

or else, men would have much larger pee holes.

02:11:55 [Morbus]

nOooO!

02:11:56 [sbp]

ouch

02:12:12 [Morbus]

yeah.

02:12:18 [Morbus]

it'd be like "gall stones?! pfff. you should see what i ate last week".

02:12:26 [sbp]

* sbp is reminded of the truth or dare South Park

02:12:31 [sbp]

heh, heh

02:12:40 [sbp]

* sbp crosses his legs

02:12:44 [Morbus]

didn't see it.

02:13:08 [Morbus]

* Morbus puts his hand on sbp's knee.

02:13:38 [sbp]

heh. Spoiler!!! Warning!! It has Wendy saying something like "jam this twig up your pee hole". Stan was expecting her to get him to kiss her

02:13:43 [sbp]

kindly remove it

02:14:27 [Morbus]

heh. heh.

02:15:07 [sbp]

right, no, yes. I am. Going; that is. viz. I am now going to go as I am going, going is what I am going to do

02:15:22 [sbp]

Gotta run

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02:22:55 [Morbus]

weird.

02:23:01 [Morbus]

AaronSw, can you try to pull up movabletype.org?

02:23:46 [AaronSw]

AaronSw has changed the topic to: <sbp> aw man, people never send me free stuff!

02:23:56 [AaronSw]

argh

02:23:57 [AaronSw]

AaronSw has changed the topic to: <sbp> has anyone ever sent you any actual crap? that'd be quite funny

02:24:00 [Morbus]

nevermind.

02:24:05 [Morbus]

i think i did .com.

02:24:11 [Morbus]

which redirected to a geocities account.

02:25:40 [AaronSw]

yep

02:25:47 [AaronSw]

i've done that before

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* Morbus reappears

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04:07:33 [AaronSw]

* AaronSw takes a movie of the film can explosive

04:07:40 [AaronSw]

it's ok...

04:18:07 [AaronSw]

woo! pyGoogle is working!

04:50:29 [AaronSw]

* AaronSw studies up on RSA

04:50:45 [AaronSw]

Need to give a class on it for Number Theory

05:24:55 [AaronSw]

* AaronSw goes to sleep, dreaming of APIs

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10:58:02 [sbp]

* sbp waves

10:58:06 [sbp]

nice topic :-)

11:50:54 [sbp]

heh, I love Python sometimes

11:51:07 [sbp]

* sbp was trying to do all sorts of weird stuff to reduce some lists

11:51:15 [sbp]

... and then I found that I could just add them

12:07:51 [sbp]

* sbp works on his N3 preprocessor

12:14:06 [sbp]

ooh, interesting bit from Tim that I missed:-

12:14:06 [sbp]

[[[

12:14:06 [sbp]

Actually "a" isn't just a shorthand for rdf:type, as it can only be used as

12:14:06 [sbp]

a predicate.

12:14:06 [sbp]

]]]

12:14:06 [sbp]

ugh

12:14:08 [sbp]

[[[

12:14:10 [sbp]

Actually "a" isn't just a shorthand for rdf:type, as it can only be used as

12:14:12 [sbp]

a predicate. But that could change. But other keywords like @prefix

12:14:14 [sbp]

and @forsome (coming) are special syntax.

12:14:16 [sbp]

]]]

12:14:18 [sbp]

- mid:003301c1c621$15be54a0$84001d12@w3.org

12:14:29 [sbp]

.google site:lists.w3.org 003301c1c621$15be54a0$84001d12

12:14:29 [xena]

no results found.

12:14:32 [sbp]

Pff

12:14:49 [sbp]

.http://www.w3.org/2002/02/mid/003301c1c621$15be54a0$84001d12@w3.org

12:14:51 [xena]

www-rdf-interest@w3.org from March 2002: Re: n3 wishlist: autom Re: n3 wishlist: automatic namespace selection From: Tim Berners-Lee (timbl@w3.org) Date: Thu, Mar 07 2002 Next message: Sandro Hawke: "Re: n3 wishlist: automatic namespace selection" Previous message: Seth Russell: "Re: n3 wishlist: automatic namespace selection" In reply to: Sandro Hawke: "n3 wishlist: automatic namespace

12:14:52 [xena]

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12:14:53 [xena]

.. a very large amount of text.

12:14:56 [sbp]

:-)

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14:10:14 [AaronSw]

danbri: "if things get squeezed not that one please"

14:14:09 [davb]

AaronSw: nice topic. It made for a nice early morning laugh

14:14:20 [AaronSw]

Heh, thanks

14:21:46 [Morbus]

whoo.

14:21:51 [Morbus]

with my new sound card, i've got winamp.

14:22:12 [sbp]

nice

14:22:17 [Morbus]

yah.

14:22:20 [Morbus]

listening to classical.

14:52:13 [Morbus]

sigh. i really like classical.

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16:47:05 [AaronSw]

heh, that was an interesting morning

16:47:22 [AaronSw]

i had a big gulp of milk in my mouth, and then i sneezed and it got all over my monitor

16:47:40 [AaronSw]

and then my mouth is like what's up, and so i spit up and the acid burned my trhoat

16:47:47 [AaronSw]

and this is all while i was on the rdf core telecon

16:49:40 [sbp]

* sbp isn't sure whether to laugh or be sympathetic

16:49:47 [sbp]

bwahahahahahaha! poor you

16:49:59 [sbp]

(problem solved: both)

16:50:06 [AaronSw]

heh, it was pretty funny

16:50:23 [AaronSw]

i scrambled for the mute button, i think i only got 'sppt' before i hit it

16:50:32 [AaronSw]

'sppt' mute 'plughdfkljdfjiodfiodfkldf'

16:50:33 [sbp]

heh, heh

16:51:57 [sbp]

* sbp tells the household and causes no end of hillarity

16:52:07 [AaronSw]

oh, great

16:52:19 [AaronSw]

so i tried to wipe it off, but now i've got all this crud on my monitor

16:52:36 [sbp]

heh, heh. well, I don't know what you're so "oh, great"ing at: you've just logged it forever in #swhack!

16:52:47 [sbp]

ew

16:53:14 [AaronSw]

i was counting on your household to not read swhack...

16:53:25 [AaronSw]

now it'll be all over the afternoon papers

16:53:33 [sbp]

well, there is one guy that reads is everyday

16:53:49 [sbp]

no, no newspaper tycoons in the household today

16:53:56 [AaronSw]

btw, where's Stu these days?

16:53:58 [sbp]

you escaped

16:54:07 [sbp]

Stu? he's back at Uni. now

16:54:22 [AaronSw]

I'm a newspaper tycoon?

16:54:41 [sbp]

er... pardon?

16:55:19 [sbp]

<sbp> no, no newspaper tycoons in the household today == <sbp> no. you're lucky that there are no newpaper tycoons in my household today

16:56:10 [AaronSw]

i was wondering about <sbp> you escaped

16:56:51 [sbp]

you escaped the humiliation of appearing in the paper

16:56:58 [AaronSw]

ah

16:57:19 [sbp]

I can just imagine Hot Sex Weekly: "Teenager sprays milky substance over monitor during ilicit call"

16:57:30 [sbp]

* sbp goes into Morbus-mode

16:57:58 [AaronSw]

since when is rdf core illicit?

16:58:27 [sbp]

and the press'd be hounding you looking for explanations... <AaronSw> "milky substance"? That was milk.

16:58:31 [AaronSw]

are you paracticing to be a writer for martin?

16:58:40 [sbp]

heh, heh, good idea!

16:59:20 [sbp]

illicit: well, they deal with... argh, difficult to get a joke of of that one

16:59:35 [sbp]

Hmm... six-o'-clock!

16:59:38 [sbp]

Gotta run

16:59:46 [AaronSw]

hmph

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17:55:15 [vinge.openprojects.net]

topic is: <sbp> has anyone ever sent you any actual crap? that'd be quite funny

17:55:15 [vinge.openprojects.net]

Users on #swhack: logster redmonk Morbus deltab tansaku jillzilla oierw|school sbp eikeon AaronSw +loggy +walloper deus_x

17:55:47 [jillzilla]

* jillzilla decides her initial choice of response would get Morbus overexcited.

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17:56:13 [Morbus]

noOO!

17:56:23 [jillzilla]

_Lion Taming for Dummies_

17:56:28 [Morbus]

tell me! else i'll perish in an anquish as terrible as de... .. uh.

17:56:36 [Morbus]

lion taming for dummies.

17:56:38 [Morbus]

lion. taming.

17:56:40 [sbp]

ooh, jillium with stage boots and whip

17:56:42 [Morbus]

for dummies?

17:56:43 [jillzilla]

* jillzilla brandishes a chair.

17:56:47 [sbp]

heh, sorry. that was just spontaneous

17:56:50 [deltab]

Baby Pacifiying for Dummies

17:56:55 [Morbus]

they made a book called "lion taming for dummies"?

17:56:57 [sbp]

lol!

17:57:02 [Morbus]

heheheheh.

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17:57:26 [deltab]

Making Clothes for Dummies

17:57:38 [jillzilla]

ooh, innate ambiguity!

17:59:35 [sbp]

Gotta run

17:59:47 [jillzilla]

run run run!

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18:02:15 [Morbus]

jillzilla, whatcha doing?

18:02:28 [AaronSw]

[the dreaded question]

18:02:36 [jillzilla]

mrflgh. eating soup.

18:02:49 [jillzilla]

what are you doing, Morbus? Or should I not ask?

18:03:05 [Morbus]

i'm monkey enterign data into a database, and looking for a good oldies station streamed.

18:03:37 [jillzilla]

Bored, eh?

18:04:01 [Morbus]

pff. i just... hey, shit, you didn't sere it!

18:04:02 [Morbus]

oh man,.

18:04:10 [Morbus]

i made teh most embarrassing thing of my life.

18:04:16 [jillzilla]

dear me!

18:04:36 [Morbus]

it just makes me cringe that i had something to do with it.

18:04:36 [Morbus]

you ready for this jillzilla?

18:04:36 [Morbus]

you ready? oh man.

18:04:36 [jillzilla]

telltelltell!

18:04:43 [Morbus]

you're gonna lose all respect for me.

18:04:44 [jillzilla]

* jillzilla battens down the hatches.

18:04:48 [jillzilla]

I *have* no respect for you.

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18:04:54 [Morbus]

LOL. yesssss! <G>

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18:06:23 [AaronSw]

AaronSw has changed the topic to: FYEO: The BAA for ARDA's NIMD Program is on the NIMA web site.

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18:06:56 [jillzilla]

Morbus: I find this...curiously enticing.

18:07:04 [Morbus]

why!?

18:07:08 [Morbus]

because you have dirt on me now.

18:07:17 [Morbus]

something ot hang over my head at important functions.

18:07:26 [Morbus]

"hey, dave winer! guess what Morbus did?!" <G>

18:07:33 [redmonk]

lol

18:07:37 [jillzilla]

Is there anyone in this channel other than AaronSw who actually leaves the house?

18:07:42 [redmonk]

me

18:07:43 [Morbus]

uhh.

18:07:46 [AaronSw]

Morbus walks to work.

18:07:49 [Morbus]

the sporks attack if I leave.

18:07:54 [Morbus]

yeah, its like two blocks.

18:07:59 [Morbus]

the comic shop is halfway between.

18:08:01 [Morbus]

<G>

18:08:03 [jillzilla]

jillzilla has changed the topic to: When Sporks Attack

18:08:25 [jillzilla]

I ride my bike to work five times a week and drive once.

18:08:48 [redmonk]

* redmonk would do that but he has a 25 mile commute

18:09:01 [redmonk]

and it gets 120 here in the summer

18:09:06 [jillzilla]

* jillzilla nods. Yeah, I was doing 7.2 miles and it got a bit old.

18:09:12 [AaronSw]

I take the train.

18:09:14 [jillzilla]

120? just fucking kill me.

18:09:26 [jillzilla]

Who here has a driver's license?

18:09:28 [Morbus]

can i rape your dea... uh.

18:09:39 [Morbus]

i really wish I had a delete key.

18:09:42 [redmonk]

Morbus, stop

18:10:16 [jillzilla]

I want to buy essential oils from this company. It's the big flowers...

18:10:17 [redmonk]

some of us are in the presence of co-workers...

18:10:35 [redmonk]

"hey steve is chatting to someone about necrophilia!"

18:10:37 [AaronSw]

I have a learner's permit. It's sorta like a driver's license.

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18:10:46 [Morbus]

redmonk, whoo! i got pictures too!

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18:10:54 [AaronSw]

redmonk, /clear

18:10:58 [jillzilla]

AaronSw: Does that mean you can drive in California if there is a licensed driver over the age of 21 with you?

18:11:12 [AaronSw]

I was wondering about that. I think so.

18:11:21 [redmonk]

aaron - thx

18:11:23 [redmonk]

;-)

18:11:29 [jillzilla]

Road trip with Aaron driiiiiiving!

18:11:35 [AaronSw]

whoo!

18:11:51 [redmonk]

* redmonk packs his airbag

18:12:12 [jillzilla]

Anyone have a car?

18:12:36 [jillzilla]

"Click a flower above"

18:12:37 [Morbus]

i hate cars.

18:12:39 [Morbus]

i hate driving.

18:12:43 [jillzilla]

Morbus, I really have lost respect for you.

18:12:45 [Morbus]

shuddup, jillzilla, just shuddup.

18:12:50 [AaronSw]

I'm trying to get back our 1985 Volvo stationwagon so I can drive it.

18:12:59 [jillzilla]

Morbus: do you have a license to drive?

18:13:21 [redmonk]

only to kill

18:13:23 [redmonk]

;-)

18:13:29 [Morbus]

jillzilla, nope.

18:13:30 [redmonk]

double-oh-morbus

18:13:31 [jillzilla]

* jillzilla has a license to stomp.

18:13:34 [Morbus]

never wanted it.

18:13:58 [jillzilla]

I didn't want it either, but my parents were horrified at the idea of me not learning to drive. So I learned.

18:13:59 [AaronSw]

I don't particularly want one either, but hey...

18:14:06 [AaronSw]

jinx

18:14:09 [jillzilla]

And it turned out to be a good thing, because that meant I could escape.

18:14:24 [redmonk]

well, i guess i was the odd man out - i couldn't wait for mine

18:14:42 [jillzilla]

* jillzilla points at redmonk and laughs.

18:14:42 [redmonk]

learned to drive on a 1986 volkswagon vanagon

18:14:50 [redmonk]

manual

18:14:53 [jillzilla]

Oh, wow. Those things aren't like any other vehicle. :-)

18:14:58 [redmonk]

nope

18:15:10 [redmonk]

and i was a scrawny 90lb 15 yr old

18:15:16 [redmonk]

it was... entertaining

18:15:25 [jillzilla]

I learned on manual transmission too. It took several business trips with rental cars before I stopped being a danger to all humanity in an automatic transmission.

18:15:34 [jillzilla]

I bet you built up the biceps.

18:15:39 [redmonk]

uh huh

18:15:54 [redmonk]

i think the shifter was about 4' long

18:16:07 [redmonk]

* redmonk may be exagerrating

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18:16:27 [jillzilla]

But it's at least 3'. I've driven a VW van. My father had one.

18:16:43 [redmonk]

it's crazy trying to shift that thing

18:16:50 [jillzilla]

When he died, I inherited it and eventually ended up selling it for $40 or something.

18:16:53 [redmonk]

and the steering wheel was HUGE

18:17:01 [jillzilla]

My later-housemate and I named it "Mobile Group Sex".

18:17:09 [redmonk]

lol

18:17:11 [jillzilla]

But the word "Mobile" was kind of dubious.

18:17:28 [jillzilla]

Yeah, they shift like hell. They steer like hell. They have no brakes.

18:17:30 [jillzilla]

Horrible.

18:17:32 [AaronSw]

jillzilla and morbus are a volatile combintion

18:17:52 [Morbus]

are we?

18:17:56 [Morbus]

why's that//

18:18:16 [jillzilla]

Volatile like the scent components of essential oils. Hey, I know this great site that sells essential oils and where the flowers actually _grow_...it's so cool!

18:18:24 [Morbus]

oh god.

18:18:27 [Morbus]

no. please no.

18:18:30 [Morbus]

* Morbus weeps.

18:18:34 [AaronSw]

we've gone from necrophilia to mobile group sex in .... eight minutes

18:18:38 [Morbus]

hehehe.

18:18:46 [redmonk]

lovely

18:18:53 [jillzilla]

And without even sbp.

18:18:56 [jillzilla]

* jillzilla pines for sbp.

18:18:58 [redmonk]

swhack is like no where else, that's fer sure

18:19:27 [Morbus]

that's a high compliment.

18:19:31 [jillzilla]

Speaking of pines, they have some excellent essential oils. Dunno what got me thinking about that.

18:19:46 [AaronSw]

hey, i remember this website about essential oils...

18:19:53 [AaronSw]

let me see if i can find the URL:

18:19:58 [AaronSw]

.google morbus severe embarassment oils

18:19:59 [Morbus]

* Morbus coughs.

18:20:02 [Morbus]

bwahahahah

18:20:09 [AaronSw]

hm, where'd xena go

18:20:17 [Morbus]

[12:01] *** Signoff: xena (Remote closed the connection)

18:20:24 [Morbus]

it being 14:20 my time.

18:20:25 [jillzilla]

.seen xena

18:20:27 [AaronSw]

whoa, google's got a new look

18:20:28 [jillzilla]

oh, wait.

18:20:42 [jillzilla]

new look?

18:20:47 [AaronSw]

and it auto-corrected my spelling

18:21:00 [jillzilla]

lamer.

18:21:14 [AaronSw]

ick, using meta refresh and javascript!

18:21:20 [AaronSw]

did someone hack into the google site or what?

18:21:27 [redmonk]

what google are you looking at?

18:21:36 [AaronSw]

www.google.com for morbus severe embarassment oils

18:22:06 [AaronSw]

* AaronSw blogs using that as an example

18:22:06 [redmonk]

ah, the spelling thing

18:22:16 [redmonk]

hehe

18:22:22 [AaronSw]

Has that been there for a while and I've never mispelled something that bad?

18:22:49 [redmonk]

google.blogspace is going to be the authori-tay on 'morbus embarassment"

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18:23:39 [redmonk]

ugh

18:23:50 [redmonk]

i keep accidentally closing thee window

18:24:23 [jillzilla]

* jillzilla just switched to netscape 6 yesterday.

18:24:31 [jillzilla]

<-- not an early adopter.

18:24:37 [AaronSw]

odd. when i try it from curl I get 403 forbidden

18:24:45 [jillzilla]

is curl a machine or a browser?

18:24:50 [AaronSw]

a browser

18:25:04 [redmonk]

it's a new flash thingy ;-)

18:26:36 [AaronSw]

* AaronSw googleblogs

18:26:41 [Morbus]

hmm.

18:26:42 [Morbus]

wait a minute.

18:26:45 [Morbus]

what if we want the mispelling?

18:26:50 [Morbus]

like, that britney spears thing.

18:26:57 [Morbus]

where's the fun in that sort of analysis?

18:27:11 [Morbus]

was this BECAUSE of the brintey spears thing?

18:27:29 [AaronSw]

AaronSw has changed the topic to: <timbl> steveb was suggetsing I go to the mac store and look at macs

18:27:55 [AaronSw]

it's only if you get zero results, it seems

18:36:18 [redmonk]

y'all a bunch o' #-addicts

18:36:22 [redmonk]

heh

18:37:47 [redmonk]

anyone here a guitar nut?

18:38:04 [AaronSw]

Google: "Thank you for writing to Google. We read all of the mail we receive. This note is just to let you know that we've received the letter you sent. We hope this helps and we thank you for writing to Google."

18:38:08 [AaronSw]

How is that supposed to help?

18:38:42 [AaronSw]

That would only help if my problem is something like "Google never sends me form letters" or "I want Google to read one of my emails"

18:39:03 [redmonk]

hey - does mozilla have a way to define your own shortcuts in the address bar?

18:39:06 [redmonk]

ie

18:39:10 [redmonk]

google foo bar

18:39:20 [AaronSw]

Protozilla might be good for that

18:39:38 [AaronSw]

http://protozilla.mozdev.org/

18:40:06 [AaronSw]

oh wait... i remember this now

18:41:08 [AaronSw]

aha: http://www.google.com/mozilla/google-search.html

18:41:52 [Morbus]

redmonk, yeah it does.

18:41:55 [redmonk]

ahhh

18:41:56 [Morbus]

its built ...

18:41:57 [Morbus]

oh right.

18:42:08 [jillzilla]

Oh, cool, I was going to send instructions for that. I didn't realize we had put them up.

18:42:10 [Morbus]

redmonk, hold on.

18:42:18 [AaronSw]

Morbus, i found it

18:42:24 [Morbus]

http://www.mozilla.org/docs/end-user/keywords.html

18:42:30 [Morbus]

i found a better one though ;)

18:42:39 [Morbus]

teaching how to fish.

18:42:42 [AaronSw]

i was gonna paste that

18:42:51 [Morbus]

ah.

18:42:53 [AaronSw]

really! i was!

18:42:55 [Morbus]

didn't i show you that once.

18:42:57 [Morbus]

i dunno

18:43:00 [AaronSw]

yeah, i think you did

18:43:01 [Morbus]

i know i showed someone in here.

18:43:04 [Morbus]

that's my URL! mine!

18:43:07 [Morbus]

only I can give it out <G>

18:43:23 [AaronSw]

also: http://developer.netscape.com/evangelism/docs/articles/bookmarks/

18:43:31 [AaronSw]

that has graphics! so there

18:43:33 [Morbus]

ooh. didn't have that one.

18:43:35 [Morbus]

<G>

18:44:56 [redmonk]

* redmonk is so happy now!

18:45:02 [Morbus]

* Morbus listens to streamingsoundtracks.com

18:45:07 [redmonk]

* redmonk hacks all his search bookmarks

18:45:09 [Morbus]

hehehe.

18:46:30 [AaronSw]

mwahaha, Zap rocks

18:47:07 [Morbus]

zap?

18:47:24 [AaronSw]

from http://www.smokinggun.com/demos/bookmarklets.php

18:48:18 [Morbus]

ooh, i like clean rad.

18:48:22 [Morbus]

clean read, ather.

18:49:42 [AaronSw]

how come slashdot rejects my submission, but then posts the same thing from somebody else a day later?

18:49:45 [Morbus]

zap does indeed rock.

18:50:06 [Morbus]

because they're following apple policy on contributions.

18:50:24 [AaronSw]

which is? giving steve jobs all the credit?

18:50:32 [Morbus]

nope. no one under 18 can contribute.

18:50:39 [AaronSw]

how do they know my age?

18:50:46 [jillzilla]

Morbus told them.

18:50:52 [Morbus]

* Morbus beams proudly

18:50:55 [AaronSw]

* AaronSw strangles Morbus

18:51:16 [Morbus]

* Morbus looks downtrodden and increasingly red.

18:51:38 [AaronSw]

heh: My PGP public key is: 0

18:54:48 [Morbus]

* Morbus thinks he's gonna upg to mt2.0 today for gg.

18:54:53 [Morbus]

AaronSw, did you upg?

18:55:08 [AaronSw]

yeah, as soon as it came out

18:55:26 [Morbus]

i did it on dnn, but not gg, since that's more critical.

18:55:44 [AaronSw]

It was very easy, once i fixed some permissions problems

18:55:47 [jillzilla]

Morbus is talking in acronyms.

18:56:08 [AaronSw]

MB upg mt2.0 for gg but not dnn

18:56:44 [jillzilla]

* jillzilla decides not to wear shoes.

18:57:13 [Morbus]

heh.

18:57:18 [Morbus]

my gg export for mt is 2.4 megs.

18:57:24 [Morbus]

one of my entries has over 350 commetns.

19:00:44 [AaronSw]

ooh! http://www.google.com/dmca.html

19:02:24 [AaronSw]

* AaronSw googleblogs

19:27:59 [walloper]

<lilo> Reply to a comment on a /. article....unfortunately, probably no one will see it since I can't sign onto my account from work :) http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=30906&threshold=-1&commentsort=0&tid=95&mode=flat&pid=3324348

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* AaronSw gets a call to give an impromptu explanation of Brilliant Digital to suits. bleeech

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19:46:05 [AaronSw]

I hate explaining things I don't know about to suits.

19:49:33 [Morbus]

heh. heh.

19:49:40 [Morbus]

uh, how did you get into explaining something you don't know?

19:49:45 [Morbus]

upg to 2.0 went fine over at gg.

19:49:49 [AaronSw]

cool.

19:50:06 [AaronSw]

i don't know... the phone rang, i picked it up and all of the sudden there wrre suits asking me questions

19:50:12 [Morbus]

yeah, the one "issue" i was having over at dnn didn't replicate becuase i don't use time-based archives.

19:50:21 [Morbus]

aww. cos you're all special and shit.

19:50:35 [AaronSw]

i think it's because my phone number is on my website

19:50:43 [AaronSw]

i should probably take it off if this keeps happening

19:51:15 [AaronSw]

Am I getting more cynical and unpleasant or is it just me?

19:51:48 [Morbus]

i think...

19:51:50 [Morbus]

i think...

19:51:55 [Morbus]

i think i'm proud of you son ;)

19:52:19 [AaronSw]

that'd be one for "more cynical and unpleasant" then

19:54:08 [Morbus]

ehehehe.

20:01:45 [Morbus]

ew.

20:01:50 [Morbus]

AaronSw, swhack/weblog is fuxored.

20:02:10 [AaronSw]

bad Morbus

20:02:18 [Morbus]

wha? what'd i do.

20:02:24 [Morbus]

did i not read the backlog.

20:02:26 [Morbus]

sigh.

20:02:43 [AaronSw]

never mind, just reload it a few times and it'll start working

20:02:49 [Morbus]

whoo hoo!

20:02:53 [Morbus]

* Morbus sets up his ddos kit

20:02:59 [AaronSw]

i meant like 2

20:03:04 [Morbus]

oh.

20:03:07 [Morbus]

* Morbus deflates.

20:04:04 [AaronSw]

this is a scary sentence: The rdfd:lex property associates a literal node object which is presumed to be a member of the lexical space of some (possibly unspecified) datatype (a lexical form) with a non-literal node subject denoting the single member of the value space of the same datatype as the lexical form and which is represented by that lexical form.

20:07:37 [Morbus]

hmm.

20:07:42 [Morbus]

AaronSw. got a question.

20:07:49 [AaronSw]

yes?

20:07:54 [Morbus]

say I post the same email to 30 different lists. a typical crosspost.

20:08:27 [Morbus]

with only the headers to look at, is there a "fool-proofish" way of having leecharoo say "i've already seen this emssage, so i'm not oging to get the body".

20:08:38 [Morbus]

i was thinking of checking subj and date, but that doesn't work down to the second.

20:11:31 [AaronSw]

message-id

20:12:07 [sbp]

ugh, so much backlog

20:12:13 [Morbus]

i thought that was determined by the desintation server, not the client.

20:12:19 [Morbus]

but i just tried it here, and you're right.

20:12:21 [sbp]

you guys suck. stop talking when I'm not around

20:12:28 [Morbus]

i initially had thought of that, but got confused i guess.

20:16:30 [Morbus]

la la la

20:16:54 [sbp]

* sbp harmonizes lo li la le lo

20:20:54 [redmonk]

TIBOOK!!!!

20:21:02 [AaronSw]

aha: http://www.siliconvalley.com/mld/siliconvalley/news/local/3031960.htm

20:21:19 [redmonk]

* redmonk dances jig with tibook computing over 802.11

20:27:10 [redmonk]

sbp: i asked you once what kind of guitar you have right?

20:27:16 [redmonk]

what was the answer?

20:28:32 [Morbus]

hey no fair.

20:28:33 [Morbus]

http://www.sacbee.com/state_wire/story/2106218p-2447198c.html

20:28:39 [Morbus]

mimicks a story i wrote called Morgue Rats.

20:28:56 [Morbus]

over at http://www.disobey.com/collected/morbus_iff/morgue_rats.shtml

20:28:58 [Morbus]

i think

20:28:59 [Morbus]

or html.

20:29:00 [Morbus]

one of those.

20:29:04 [Morbus]

or maybe htm

20:29:05 [Morbus]

i dunno

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20:33:23 [sbp]

redmonk: I have a Squier Strat

20:33:27 [redmonk]

ah

20:33:29 [redmonk]

right

20:33:29 [sbp]

and a Marshall amp

20:33:31 [redmonk]

thx

20:33:37 [sbp]

np

20:33:55 [redmonk]

* redmonk is trying to convince his wife to let him trade in one of their acoustics on an electric

20:34:09 [sbp]

6-string acounstic? fair enough

20:34:18 [redmonk]

yeah

20:34:26 [redmonk]

small body with pickup

20:34:36 [redmonk]

it's kinda twangy

20:35:07 [sbp]

ugh. Go get a Rickenbacker, Les Paul, or Strat

20:35:25 [sbp]

and a pedal. turn up the volume, away you go

20:35:41 [redmonk]

* redmonk lusts after peter buck's 360 jetpro

20:35:47 [redmonk]

er, jetglo

20:36:23 [redmonk]

but does not have 1400 er, bucks, to pay for it ;-)

20:36:30 [redmonk]

hehe

20:41:35 [sbp]

heh, I know the feeling

20:49:48 [sbp]

for the token stream option, would it be better have a token stream of the input before processing, or after?

20:50:51 [Morbus]

man, that's weird,

20:51:12 [Morbus]

oh nveemrind.

20:51:39 [sbp]

* sbp reckons after processing would be better

20:56:32 [AaronSw]

what's this token stream?

21:09:41 [Morbus]

hehehe

21:09:44 [Morbus]

sbp: http://odaymp3.tripod.com/n00b.txt

21:11:53 [Morbus]

we should start a deltree posse.

21:14:35 [AaronSw]

that is so mean

21:14:57 [Morbus]

you know about neo85, right?

21:15:26 [AaronSw]

yeah, but you didn't erase his hard drive

21:15:38 [Morbus]

... .. uh.

21:15:44 [AaronSw]

did you?

21:15:52 [Morbus]

i didn't, no.

21:16:02 [AaronSw]

you jerks!

21:16:23 [AaronSw]

AaronSw has changed the topic to: * timbl2 asks admin to order an osx powerbook

21:18:01 [redmonk]

powerbook: cooooooool

21:18:20 [redmonk]

* redmonk contemplates the takeover of the open source world by os x

21:18:37 [redmonk]

and the imminent death of linux-on-the-desktop

21:18:41 [redmonk]

hahaha

21:18:43 [redmonk]

j/k

21:19:29 [AaronSw]

BSD-on-the-desktop, baby

21:19:46 [redmonk]

haha

21:19:49 [redmonk]

yeeeeessss

21:21:58 [Morbus]

i can' tbelieve you blogged the morbus severe thing.

21:22:00 [Morbus]

heh. that's so cool.

21:25:34 [AaronSw]

woo! i got in the internet.com newsletter

21:26:00 [Morbus]

for what?

21:26:05 [AaronSw]

google api

21:26:21 [Morbus]

cool.

21:27:01 [Morbus]

man, "Clean Read" bookmarklet rocks.

21:29:52 [AaronSw]

* AaronSw puts on his Medium is the Massage LP

21:29:58 [Morbus]

Massage?

21:30:03 [AaronSw]

yeah

21:30:06 [Morbus]

?

21:30:35 [AaronSw]

Parrot: The Medium is the Massage. The Medium is the Massage <whistel> Marshall McLuhan. Marshall McLuhan.

21:31:29 [AaronSw]

i got the mp3 if you want it

21:31:34 [Morbus]

sure.

21:31:37 [Morbus]

up it to anony disobey

21:31:48 [AaronSw]

it's faster to download it

21:31:54 [Morbus]

on a 56k modem?

21:32:08 [AaronSw]

oh, you're at home?

21:32:08 [sbp]

faster to send it via. CD and post

21:32:20 [Morbus]

i'm in a quiet office where my bosses wife reads.

21:32:25 [Morbus]

its not something i'd be playiung here ;)

21:32:27 [AaronSw]

no headphones?

21:32:38 [Morbus]

nope. because that admits that i'm going to be listening to music.

21:32:41 [AaronSw]

where's anony disobey

21:32:46 [Morbus]

ftp.disobey.com

21:32:53 [AaronSw]

i mean physically

21:32:54 [Morbus]

/incoming

21:33:02 [Morbus]

oh. uh. new hampshire.

21:33:19 [AaronSw]

i meant more like office or home?

21:33:20 [Morbus]

if i leech from home, i'll get about 10k a sec, since it's same server

21:33:30 [Morbus]

...

21:33:42 [AaronSw]

so can you log into it and do `wget http://web.archive.org/web/http://www.aaronsw.com/mcluhan.mp3`?

21:33:42 [Morbus]

its physcally at the office. i won't listen to it until i get home.

21:33:50 [Morbus]

oh forget.

21:33:56 [Morbus]

its too much hassle for a passing interest.

21:34:00 [AaronSw]

hmph

21:34:47 [sbp]

lol @ http://odaymp3.tripod.com/n00b.txt

21:34:53 [Morbus]

:)

21:35:00 [sbp]

but that guy thought he was being hacked, so that's a little sad...

21:35:04 [Morbus]

yeah.

21:35:08 [sbp]

our guy was asking how to hack a server

21:35:17 [Morbus]

but see, what sucks is that like half the people we're like "uh, you're a moron. that's normal".

21:35:24 [Morbus]

oh yeah, i hear ya.

21:35:31 [Morbus]

we were protecting other people. they were just being malicious ;)

21:35:37 [sbp]

precisely! :-)

21:35:41 [Morbus]

:)

21:35:52 [sbp]

if we're going to stick to a story...

21:36:38 [AaronSw]

McLuhan: "the expert is the man who stays put"

21:38:27 [Morbus]

"

21:38:37 [sbp]

[OLM]

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21:56:53 [AaronSw]

"schitzofrenia may be a necessary consequence of literacy"

21:57:11 [redmonk]

hm.

21:57:40 [redmonk]

s/schitzofrenia/schitzophrenia/

21:57:50 [redmonk]

interesting quote tho

22:00:46 [AaronSw]

art is anything you can get away with

22:01:09 [redmonk]

kind of like grand larceny

22:01:16 [redmonk]

that way

22:01:48 [AaronSw]

speak, that i may seeeeeee yoooooooou

22:01:59 [AaronSw]

"The young person today is a dataprocessor on a very large scale."

22:02:25 [redmonk]

oh, yeah, give the *kids* all the credit

22:02:28 [redmonk]

;-)

22:42:18 [sbp]

sbp has changed the topic to: <AaronSw> no, people who write useful documents in turing complete languages are losers

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23:22:25 [AaronSw]

i love this photo: http://www.aaronsw.com/photos/misc/IMG_0853.JPG/view - it's my new desktop background

23:22:51 [sbp]

heh

23:23:15 [AaronSw]

in fact, i love all of the http://www.aaronsw.com/photos/misc/ photos

23:25:09 [AaronSw]

i'm getting better, i guess

23:37:25 [AaronSw]

* AaronSw uploads some photos, finding a decent FTP client (Fetch)

23:39:49 [sbp]

* sbp wrote his own

23:39:54 [sbp]

or I just use IE

23:47:44 [AaronSw]

yeah, IE doesn't have upload here.

23:49:15 [AaronSw]

ok, that takes care of all the p2pcon photos...

23:55:58 [sbp]

Hmm... @use/@prefix default/@keyword are quite useless

23:56:09 [AaronSw]

why?

23:56:29 [sbp]

you add lines of @xxx declarations just to get rid of a few colons

23:56:50 [sbp]

well, I guess there's a benefit if you use lots of different @use declarations

23:57:08 [sbp]

but I think it makes it tricky to read

23:57:12 [AaronSw]

perhaps they should be offloaded to a file on the web or something

23:57:25 [AaronSw]

@style <http://infomesh.net/2002/sbpstyle>

23:57:32 [sbp]

n3s can load files from the Web and use those prefixes etc. instead

23:58:29 [sbp]

e.g.

23:58:30 [sbp]

[[[

23:58:30 [sbp]

$ u n3splunge -si=http://infomesh.net/2002/apr-test.n3 'a gunge blargh .'

23:58:31 [sbp]

@prefix : <http://example.org/xyz#> .

23:58:31 [sbp]

@prefix rdf: <http://www.w3.org/1999/02/22-rdf-syntax-ns#> .

23:58:31 [sbp]

rdf:type :gunge :blargh .

23:58:32 [sbp]

]]]

23:58:43 [AaronSw]

cool

23:59:11 [sbp]

the thought is that people can have local config files, or merge files using cat and pipe in

23:59:31 [sbp]

(to pipe in a config file, just use -i without an =id thing)

23:59:43 [sbp]

it's fully working - I could release it now

23:59:48 [sbp]

but it's a weekend... argh