00:00:51 whoo hoo 00:00:57 just added my date based subdirectory 00:01:42 ? 00:02:23 redmonk, look in the logs for "leacharoo" 00:02:34 ooh, email from Gudge 00:02:38 hey "morbius" - you ever gonna finish amphetadesk? 00:02:42 just www-archive stuff, but still, intresting 00:02:51 (amphetadesk is morbus' Morbius Strip) 00:03:07 hey, this is a knockoff project that I don't have to think about. 00:03:12 i'm unwinding, leave me be 00:03:14 bitch 00:03:18 (a neverending journey...) 00:03:23 hahaha 00:03:27 sorry 00:03:30 ;-) 00:03:36 I think you mean "Moebius" 00:03:59 yes, i'm an ass - besides - it played off his name better this way 00:04:06 true 00:04:15 er... about the name thing 00:04:23 I don't necessarily think that you're an ass 00:04:24 heh 00:05:27 i think morbus does by now though :-) 00:05:37 heh. 00:14:50 redmonk, you download attachments at all? 00:14:58 i need a second pair of eyes on this script. 00:15:55 ok 00:16:01 no promises 00:16:06 my perl is way rusty 00:16:21 steve at redmonk dot net 00:17:32 sent 00:20:00 what am i looking for? 00:21:33 * Morbus shrugs. 00:21:42 anything you think needs improving, any logic errors, etc. 00:22:15 brb 00:22:17 Morbus has quit ("http://www.disobey.com/") 00:22:21 can it wait til later? i need to do paid work for now... 00:24:53 Morbus (morbus@63.173.138.147) has joined #swhack 00:25:19 any logic errors? heh 00:25:23 get Aaron to review it 00:26:07 lol 00:26:22 this is pretty easy-to-read code, but it's still perl 00:26:35 not sure Aaron *wants* to look at it ;-) 00:27:05 that's what i was thinking ;) 00:27:29 morbus: can it wait til later? i need to do paid work for now... 00:27:37 sure 00:27:39 ok 00:27:46 will get back to you tomorrow 00:28:01 looks like parser.pm is not standard on os x 00:28:10 not standard anywhere. 00:28:14 ah 00:29:05 is there anyway to have perl tell you what a script depends on? 00:29:19 not without extra coding. 00:29:28 i know how but haven't added it to my normal library 00:29:33 ah 00:31:33 heh - "grep '^use' script.pl" 00:32:25 one day i'll have to write a quickie script to grep a perl script and go to cpan for the required modules ;-) 00:34:16 perl -MCPAN -eshell 00:34:21 install Module::Name 00:34:22 :) 00:34:27 two lines! 00:35:32 yeah but you have to grep the modules from the script first 00:35:36 so it's more like 4 00:35:38 ;-) 00:36:21 bah ;) 00:37:27 perl make-my-system-capable-of-running-this-script.pl -otherScript.pl 00:37:40 or better yet 00:37:55 perl make-my-system-capable-of-running.pl -thisScript.pl 00:37:57 hehe 00:39:14 oierw has quit ("hmm.") 00:45:26 redmonk has quit ("cya") 00:48:00 Morbus has quit (Remote closed the connection) 00:48:51 * sbp creates an n3s script 00:49:27 Morbus (morbus@63.173.138.156) has joined #swhack 00:55:06 n3s? 01:02:30 wmf (~wesley@valentine.felter.org) has joined #swhack 01:02:40 heh, nice topic 01:02:41 wmf! 01:03:14 * AaronSw looks for macosx-compatible personalized internet radio (i wish imagine.radio was still around) 01:03:18 looks like Rael twisted my arm into going to ETCon 01:03:28 Oh? 01:03:40 what'd he threaten...er offer 01:03:55 he sent me a, uh, birthday present 01:05:00 plane tickets? 01:05:02 a time bomb? 01:05:04 no 01:05:19 death threat? 01:05:47 come on, we're talking about Rael 01:06:20 * AaronSw rubs chin 01:06:22 free books? 01:11:05 AaronSw: are you doing the no /. thing? 01:11:17 I never read slashdot... 01:11:32 you're missing some good slashvertisements 01:11:50 even when i do read it, i turn ads off 01:11:59 that's not a slashvertisement 01:12:15 oh? 01:12:22 slashvertisements are articles that are really ads 01:12:41 oh, right 01:12:58 it was an april fool's joke, but every day since then has been an article that looked like a blatant product plug 01:13:14 Hi all. Apparently MysticOne's cat just KLINEd rogers 01:13:25 looks as if it's been resolved 01:13:47 geez, how many copies of this wallops do I need to see? 01:14:02 it's not my fault bitchx turns them on by default 01:14:23 On the other hand, we now know that xchat is remarkably easy to use. 01:14:27 it's not my fauls your logger repeats them :-) 01:14:39 er, walloper 01:15:02 is the ad the zapstation one? 01:15:09 This is a WALLOPS message for the Open Projects Network. These messages contain non-critical comments and announcements and detailed server admin information. To turn them off, turn off user mode 'w'. On most clients: '/mode -w'. Thanks. 01:15:13 today, yes 01:15:21 hehe: "All loyal Linux users should know that we all need to stop helping each other, for the sake of the company's survival. 01:16:18 what's the slashvertisement you want me to see? 01:16:32 the zapstation one 01:17:01 so he sent you a zapstation? 01:17:07 no, All loyal Linux users should know that we all need to stop helping each other, for the sake of the company's survival. 01:17:12 oops 01:17:27 no, slashvertisements have nothing to do with Rael 01:18:42 Anyway, apologies for the problem. If you're reading this and someone on Rogers Cable is wondering what happened, please pass on the story with our apologies. Thanks. 01:38:14 wait a minute. 01:38:16 hey, redmonk?! 01:38:18 you around/ 01:55:07 * sbp sends off n3s 01:55:35 [[[ 01:55:35 Second Writer: Splunge. 01:55:35 Larry: Did he say splunge? 01:55:36 First and Third Writers: Yes. 01:55:36 Larry: What does splunge mean? 01:55:36 Second Writer: It means ... it's a great-idea-but-possibly-not-and-I'm-not-being-indecisive! 01:55:39 ]]] - http://www.montypython.net/scripts/20thvole.php 01:56:42 ta da: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-archive/2002Apr/att-0021/01-n3s 01:57:22 oops, the doc prefix is wrong 01:59:10 Gotta run 02:05:10 davb has left #swhack 02:12:22 GabeW (~Gabe@12-236-237-100.client.attbi.com) has joined #swhack 02:13:18 Morbus has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 02:16:26 jeremiah (~chatzilla@ip68-10-5-132.hr.hr.cox.net) has joined #swhack 02:16:29 hey 02:16:36 going to New Jersey for a memorial service 02:16:47 back sometime sunday night 02:16:53 oh. my condolences 02:16:58 thanks 02:17:23 it was a while ago actually, but they delayed the memorial service for a month 02:17:30 donated his body to science (grandfather) 02:21:35 sheesh. what browsers does launch.yahoo.com run on? i've tried four already... 02:29:38 it appears splunge is an n3 preprocessor 02:31:09 heh 02:49:28 GabeW has quit ("Client Exiting") 03:19:51 GabeW (~gwachob@12-236-237-100.client.attbi.com) has joined #swhack 03:20:13 hazmat (~ender@adsl-66-123-57-58.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net) has joined #swhack 03:40:18 tansaku_xj has quit () 03:53:08 jillzilla (~jill@216-239-45-4.google.com) has joined #swhack 03:53:16 Hey 03:53:34 small group here at the moment... 03:53:50 hey jillzilla 03:53:59 jillzilla! 03:54:07 so now you must reveal who it was that sent you here. 03:54:31 What? 03:54:36 What do you mean, who sent me here? 03:54:49 * wmf shines the light at jillzilla 03:54:49 I said /join #swhack. 03:54:49 who told you about this channel? 03:54:52 You said before you left that someone invited you here. 03:55:00 * jillzilla tries to close her eyes....aaaaaaah, I'll talk... 03:55:02 We have ways of getting this information. 03:55:12 someone invited me here... 03:55:16 Hmmm... 03:55:21 I know how to find out. 03:55:29 we need names, numbers, dates 03:55:31 * jillzilla searches 03:55:49 names: Joseph, Katrina, Xiaoping. 03:56:04 numbers: 3, pi, -89.87, square root of seven. 03:56:11 dates: today, yesterday, next year. 03:56:16 * jillzilla feels satisfied. 03:56:22 who was it that invited you? 03:56:33 searching... 03:56:40 all right, if you want to play games, we can play games 03:57:00 AaronSw: bring in the neural-google-bot! 03:57:17 * wmf holds on to jillzilla's head 03:57:20 * AaronSw pulls neural-google-bot down from ceiling 03:57:28 1, 2, 3, attach! 03:57:29 AIIIEEEEEE! 03:57:31 index! 03:57:36 * jillzilla regrets joining #swhack! 03:57:39 * wmf looks away 03:57:54 * neurogoogle makes indexing sounds 03:58:30 * jillzilla 's eyes spin. 03:58:35 do you have an answer now, jill? 03:58:40 I'm still searching. 03:58:57 Oh, wait. Maybe I was at home. 03:59:05 And that computer is powered off, so I can't ask it. 03:59:11 No, I was at work! 04:00:08 15:38:11 so what brings you here, jill? 04:00:09 15:38:21 or AaronSw 04:00:09 15:38:31 --- You are now known as jillzilla 04:00:09 15:38:34 I was asked. 04:00:22 but by whom? 04:00:45 * AaronSw cues dramatic music 04:01:42 I can't find the evidence. 04:02:08 I thought it was either tav or Morbus, but I can't find a log of either of them saying something like that. 04:02:15 turn on the r00tk1t option! 04:02:17 ha! I knew it was tav! 04:02:25 I think it was Morbus. 04:02:32 * AaronSw sends out the probe droids to search for tav 04:02:36 Or GabeW. No, because he was surprised when I turned up. 04:02:51 No, you can't lead us off the trail now! 04:03:15 * probeDroids go bzzt, bzzt and bang into walls 04:03:32 this IRC log is too big to blog; I'm not sure what to do with it 04:03:38 * jillzilla searches with the aid of vi. 04:03:56 What else is there to do in the world other than blog? 04:04:22 I've heard some people use sex as a substitute for blogging 04:04:27 I know it was AaronSw who first told me about #swhack. 04:04:31 wmf: that's sick, dude. 04:04:48 and Aaron and Gabe and tav and Morbus have all encouraged me to come here. 04:04:51 gotta amuse yourself somehow 04:04:55 Well, tav and Morbus. 04:04:57 i see my name 04:05:02 * jillzilla hides. 04:05:05 i didn't do it 04:05:23 * GabeW needs to stumble off 04:05:32 stagger on, gabe! 04:05:37 * jillzilla plays a bugle. 04:05:44 * GabeW is innocent, he swears 04:05:47 hey, what is Jeff Bezos doing in my discussion group? 04:06:16 GabeW has quit ("Client Exiting") 04:06:32 it was Dave! 04:06:43 he typed "noMorePesosForSenorBezos" and all the sudden bezos showed up 04:08:01 * jillzilla looks for a laptop harddrive. 04:08:36 Anyone know what's a good price per megabyte for such things? 04:09:04 lol! "the railgun of clue implantation" (from flutterby) 04:09:17 pricewatch can probably tell you 04:09:34 oh, cool. 04:13:58 @ http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2002/04/08/DD133142.DTL 04:14:16 * jillzilla orders a new battery and hard drive for a laptop. 04:14:32 A: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2002/04/08/DD133142.DTL from wmf 04:14:32 no chump in here either? 04:14:37 oh, there it is 04:14:53 A:|High-end 'Panic Room' hideouts becoming more common 04:15:13 A::I had no idea this stuff existed 04:15:16 titled item A 04:15:23 A::[This|http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/object.cgi?object=/chronicle/pictures/2002/04/08/dd_panic.jpg&paper=chronicle&file=DD133142.DTL&directory=/c/a/2002/04/08&type=entertainment] is the kind of thing that shoults *Texas!* 04:15:35 commented item A 04:15:52 commented item A 04:15:53 A::nah, in Texas we have shotguns prominently mounted on the mantle 04:16:11 commented item A 04:16:17 woo, i got my tickets 04:16:25 tickets? 04:16:31 To Boston 04:16:31 .seen tav 04:16:32 tav seen in #infoAnarchy saying: [ ok, so how do uritriples differ from rdf? ] ~ 14 hr(s) 59 min(s) 27 sec(s) ago 04:17:08 AaronSw is a famous traveling speaker 04:17:27 He doesn't sell snake oil, does he? 04:17:33 What are you speaking about, Aaron? 04:17:40 REST and the Semantic Web 04:17:49 .acronym REST 04:17:50 REST: Real-time Embedded Systems Testbed, Restart 04:17:53 Aha. 04:22:13 Actually in this instance it's REpresentational State Transfer 04:22:17 i.e. HTTP 04:22:28 Aha. 04:24:25 Hm, trip from the airport back will be tight. 04:24:57 from the airport to MIT that is 04:30:30 wmf has quit ("wmf has no reason") 05:16:17 .acronym PERL 05:16:18 PERL: Practical Extraction and Reporting Language, Pacific Estuarine Research Laboratory, Pathologically Eclectic Rubbish Lister :-), Pre-positioned Equipment Requirement List, Principal Exchange Rate Linked (securities), Production Engineering Research Laboratory, Pupils Equal and Reactive to Light 05:32:34 sbp- (~sean@63.149.73.20) has joined #swhack 05:35:47 sbp has quit (Read error: 32 (Broken pipe)) 05:36:25 sbp- is now known as sbp 07:53:21 tansaku_xj (~sam@n144-001.tokyu-net.catv.ne.jp) has joined #swhack 08:02:11 tansaku (~sam@n145-198.tokyu-net.catv.ne.jp) has joined #swhack 08:16:05 tansaku_xj has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 10:05:11 oierw (~mathew@pcp994425pcs.goosck01.sc.comcast.net) has joined #swhack 10:11:07 oierw is now known as oierw|school 10:29:17 jeremiah has quit (Remote closed the connection) 10:34:13 well, I think it was Morbus who invited jilljillz 10:35:10 Hmph, mnot stole my analogy! 10:35:15 and I stole it from Seth, of course 10:35:25 [[[ 10:35:25 When you see a car, you're perceiving light bouncing off it; however, 10:35:26 when you say "that car," you mean the car, not the light. 10:35:27 ]]] 10:37:18 ugh, half the problem is people not doing enough research beforehand 10:37:19 [[[ 10:37:20 http GET gives you some bits. Bits are not printers or people or cars, 10:37:20 but they provide information about such resources. If you use the http URL 10:37:20 to refer to the resource, how do you use to refer to the bits? 10:37:27 ]]] - Nick Matsakis 10:37:56 perhaps I should just filter out any messages that have the term "URL" in them :-) 10:39:29 I think that Miles may be onto something 10:41:05 heh: http://www.rutgers.edu/~sgro/HTML_Documents/pipe.html 10:48:14 ugh http://www.w3.org/2002/02/mid/B891F4F4.20BF5%me@aaronsw.com 10:48:44 Python to the rescue 10:48:45 >>> import urllib; urllib.quote('%') 10:48:45 '%25' 10:48:45 >>> 11:27:13 * sbp sends another Documents, Cars, Hills, Valleys rant 11:47:24 oops, didn't put a Carroll quote in it 11:47:35 then again, I dont' want to turn out like Aaron 11:48:57 "Aaron Swartz: every message a Carroll quote" 11:49:06 actually, that's probably the way it should b 12:01:21 .http://www.w3.org/2002/02/mid/ 12:01:23 Message-Id redirection service Message-Id redirection Service Please enter a message-Id. Webmaster 12:01:30 Hmm... but no form 12:07:06 n3s formats quite well:- 12:07:07 [[[ 12:07:07 $ u n3s { :x :y :z } log:implies { :Blargh :name "Blargh"\; a rdfs:Class } . :Sean :name "Sean" . { \?x \?y \?z } =\> { \?z \?y \?x } . 12:07:07 @prefix : <#> . 12:07:07 @prefix rdfs: . 12:07:08 @prefix log: . 12:07:10 this log:forAll :x, :y, :z, :z, :y, :x . 12:07:12 { :x :y :z } log:implies { :Blargh :name Blargh; 12:07:14 a rdfs:Class } . 12:07:16 :Sean :name Sean . 12:07:18 { :x :y :z } log:implies { :z :y :x } . 12:07:20 ]]] 12:08:04 of course, I could tokenize it, and make a really good pre-processor... 12:08:13 but this hack is good enough 12:08:33 actually, I should filter the variables list 12:09:43 there, done 12:10:16 [[[[ 12:10:20 $ u n3s { \?x \?y \?z } =\> { \?z \?y \?x } . 12:10:20 @prefix : <#> . 12:10:20 @prefix log: . 12:10:20 this log:forAll :x, :y, :z . 12:10:20 { :x :y :z } log:implies { :z :y :x } . 12:10:21 ]]] 12:10:26 s/[// 12:16:43 nice reply from Miles 12:27:25 CygBot (~sbp@m516-mp1-cvx3b.pop.ntl.com) has joined #swhack 12:27:30 mega-scary:- 12:27:36 $ u googlecount \"Just Like Tom Thumb\'s Blues\" 12:27:39 Command "u googlecount \"Just Like Tom Thumb\'s Blues\"" has been disabled 12:27:42 argh 12:27:44 $ u googlecount \"Just Like Tom Thumb\'s Blues\" 12:27:50 > "Just Like Tom Thumb's Blues": 3,860 12:27:50 > [end] 12:27:55 $ u googlecount \"Sean B. Palmer\" 12:28:00 > "Sean B. Palmer": 6,040 12:28:00 > [end] 12:28:38 OTOH, I don't think any of my songs will yield 3860 results :-) 12:28:46 $ u googlecount \"Bob Dylan\" 12:28:52 > "Bob Dylan": 397,000 12:28:52 > [end] 12:29:00 heh, more than Aaron! 12:29:07 $ u googlecount \"Aaron Swartz\" 12:29:13 > "Aaron Swartz": 11,500 12:29:13 > [end] 12:29:22 CygBot has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 12:29:30 :-) 12:31:22 my word rating list:- 12:31:23 [[[ 12:31:23 0-500 Very rare word (e.g. phenomic: 236; desynonymization: 318) 12:31:24 500-1000 Rare word (e.g. hyleg: 751) 12:31:24 1000-5000 Medium rare (e.g. lucubrations: 1720; contexture: 4150) 12:31:24 5000-50,000 Fairly common (e.g. extrovert: 34,200) 12:31:25 50,000+ Common (e.g. timbre: 266,000; interesting: 12,700,000) 12:31:29 ]]] - http://infomesh.net/geirlyfr/ 12:32:28 $ u googlecount phenomic 12:32:29 phenomic: 288 12:32:31 $ u googlecount chortle 12:32:31 chortle: 17,900 12:33:03 "chortle" was invented by Lewis Carroll, apparently, keeping with the current #swhack theme 12:33:30 Hmm... the use of "phenomic" has risen since I last surveyed it 12:37:06 lots of times it's either in relation to the game place, or as the adjective for phenome 12:37:13 and quite a few from me 12:37:47 the problem is, it's not a concept that arises frequently enough to really spread 12:38:39 It shall be entered into the dictionary! 12:39:09 perhaps we need to choose a new word 12:42:34 "O.K." was pretty cool, although it's not really a word, and "oll korrect" wouldn't have got anywhere 12:42:40 and "O.K." tooks years to spread 12:43:26 s/tooks/took/ 12:44:14 $ u googlecount defenestrate 12:44:14 defenestrate: 1,920 12:44:31 now that's a good word, and yet it doesn't even have 2000 results 12:45:25 so I guess it comes down to defining when a word is a word - and that's difficult 12:45:35 unless you base it on appearing in a dictionary 12:45:45 but dictionaries are always very slow 12:48:15 I reckon that it'd be easier to propagate a verb than anything else 12:48:51 does anyone else find it ironic that "verb" is a noun? Hpmh 12:49:29 then again, defenestrate is a verb, and that hasn't done all that well 12:50:51 Hmm... defenestrate has "fenestr" in it. Just noticed that 12:50:53 MorbusIff (~morbus@63.173.138.23) has joined #swhack 12:51:02 hey Iffman. just inventing new words 12:52:46 * sbp plays Just Like Tom Thumb's Blues 12:55:40 Hmm... I could do with a word for whimsically inventing, couldn't I? :-) 12:56:58 menecate, entrify... Hmm...] 12:58:05 I'm just crunging new words. Crepulating them. enborkulating 12:58:38 reexispenicmefiraptlingizing 13:00:41 I guess it'll come when it needs to 13:01:53 wow:- 13:01:53