00:16:39 Hmm... can I opt for 7 bit? Perhaps 8 bits was too optimistic :-) 00:17:39 er, hex "bits", that is. 28 binary bits 00:32:34 even 7 may be optimistic 00:40:46 * sbp has 16-bit working, and is trying for 20-bit 00:45:44 hooray, 5 works 00:47:09 it took 319.779999971 seconds... 00:53:55 6 will take about an hour. I'm trying it now 00:56:19 7 will probably take about a day of processing power, so the goal of 8 within a week was certainly over the top, unless I improve my program 01:24:32 hey spb 01:24:40 Hi 01:24:48 what are you doing? 01:24:51 trying to crack something? 01:25:06 no. I'm creating a document that has its own hash embedded within itself 01:25:21 oooh 01:25:25 ... why? 01:25:27 well... pseudocracking, perhaps 01:25:32 why: boredom 01:25:35 :-) 01:26:02 hmm 01:26:04 well, it's and interesting programmng task, and once you set it off running, it can fend for itself 01:26:12 after that you should make something so it when hashed it makes a sentence 01:26:17 like iloveyou 01:26:18 or whatever 01:26:30 erm... that's some funky hex you've got there 01:26:44 you'd have to use an odd base 01:26:50 base 36? 01:27:18 actually, that'd be really cool 01:27:32 a document that has the hash "iloveyou" when encoded in base 36. heh 01:29:34 but that about 41 bits, so well beyond what I can do 01:29:41 s/that/that's/ 01:31:33 ah! actually, I could invent a new numbering system. so that e, i, l, o, u, v, y = 0, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6 01:31:52 base 7 with odd symbols 01:32:43 which'd only be about 22 bits - something I can easily do 01:35:50 here's "iloveyou" in ASCII binary: '0110100101101100011011110111011001100101011110010110111101110101' 01:39:25 heh: http://www.cs.columbia.edu/~zeph/lots_o_bits 01:42:48 jeremiah has quit (Remote closed the connection) 02:00:09 Morbus (morbus@s84.terminal3.totalnetnh.net) has joined #swhack 02:00:51 yay. my attachment sucker is working nicely. 02:00:53 even has super spiffy ansi colors. heh. 02:01:15 glad to hear it, but unfortunately I must run 02:01:21 c'ya 02:11:07 I don't follow: you'd need to have a great than n amount of lines, because the hashes that you get will probably contain clashes 02:11:45 jer: to keep it loading you just hold the connection open 02:29:19 Good morning everyone. We're about to do a little bit of rehubbing to help settle Europe while most of them are sleeping. So, you may see a few splits in the next few moments. We apologize ahead of time for the inconvenience, and hopefully this won't take long. Thank you for using Open Projects. 02:30:40 As usual, you're listening to WOPN, the most wondermous place to get non-critical news and information for and about the Open Projects Network. If you'd prefer not to receive these fine messages (well, we think they're fine usually), simply /mode YourNick -w to tune them out. Thanks again for using the Open Projects Network! 02:30:52 wondermous? 02:53:59 Okay, looks like we've got it situated the way we wanted it now. Thank you for being patient and bearing with us. We appreciate your usage of the Open Projects Network, and hope everyone has a pleasant day. 02:56:56 Morbus has quit (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 03:01:22 Morbus (morbus@s93.terminal3.totalnetnh.net) has joined #swhack 03:02:45 if i remove all the comments in this pop3 script, its only 91 lines. heh. 03:29:31 Morbus has quit ("http://www.disobey.com/") 03:43:48 xoot (xoot@62.sanjose-03-04rs16rt.ca.dial-access.att.net) has joined #swhack 03:44:20 xoot has quit (Client Quit) 03:47:55 hm, does derek powazek know who i am? 03:54:24 xoot (xoot@62.sanjose-03-04rs16rt.ca.dial-access.att.net) has joined #swhack 03:54:28 hello 03:55:22 any1 here? 03:55:45 heh 03:55:47 xoot has left #swhack 03:58:04 xoot (xoot@62.sanjose-03-04rs16rt.ca.dial-access.att.net) has joined #swhack 03:58:12 this is so weird! 03:58:18 I'm being logged 03:58:37 wmf (~wesley@valentine.felter.org) has joined #swhack 03:58:44 :D I wonder how many people actually view the logs 03:58:54 hello 03:59:13 hello swhack! 03:59:36 nobody's alive except me, i think :D 03:59:41 wmf! 03:59:42 and you, of course 04:00:34 heh... I have an idea 04:00:55 what if you could participate in irc 04:00:58 via cgi 04:01:03 already been done 04:01:25 ;P 04:01:48 yeah... it'd be cool for lynx users 04:02:02 Hi all... question for you guys... 04:02:13 shoot 04:02:29 Know of some pointers to things that talk about how to map triples into BTrees? 04:02:49 I have looked at things in the past but do not remember what/where 04:03:00 * xoot shakes his head 04:03:45 * xoot makes #macchat 04:03:46 B-Trees... hm 04:03:59 McCusker! 04:04:40 the way i've seen people do rdf in bdb is to create three (or more) tables of the form sp->o, so->p, po->s and such 04:05:26 That is what I was thinking of.... thanks. 04:05:33 implemented in dbstore.py in the infogami code 04:05:38 (but not well-tested) 04:05:53 cool! 04:06:21 weird, gnupdate has an rdf package format 04:07:49 this is weird: It dosen't say " #macchat is operational" in the logger 04:08:14 brb 04:08:16 xoot has quit ("Leaving") 04:08:23 logger ignores lines starting with # 04:09:16 .google dbstore.py 04:09:17 no results found. 04:09:30 http://cvs.plesh.net/infogami/dbstore.py 04:09:53 ugh, I can't get to xml.apache.org either 04:10:11 dbstore.py needs a bunch of work, though 04:10:17 i can see xml.apache.org fine 04:10:31 yeah, I think it's a RR routing problem 04:10:50 xoot (xoot@62.sanjose-03-04rs16rt.ca.dial-access.att.net) has joined #swhack 04:11:18 and xena's a search engine? 04:11:28 among other things 04:11:36 .google xoot 04:11:37 xoot: http://www.arnegraphite.com/scoot_trickxoot.htm 04:11:57 .google aaronsw 04:11:58 aaronsw: http://www.aaronsw.com/&e=922 04:12:02 cool 04:12:45 is that your site? 04:13:02 yes 04:13:16 very nice 04:13:49 xoot has quit (Client Quit) 04:14:45 AaronSw: while I was off the net I got an idea about building a weblog tool with xindice and xslt 04:15:01 uh oh 04:15:19 that bad? 04:25:53 wesf (~Wesley@cs666869-177.austin.rr.com) has joined #swhack 04:26:15 xslt is no fun, xindice seems little fun 04:28:11 * DanCon feels a little dirty playing stupid-html-tricks, but the chart sure looks kewl ;-) 04:33:11 redmonk (~steve@ip68-2-102-26.ph.ph.cox.net) has joined #swhack 04:34:17 isn't adam felber the host of wwdtm? 04:34:32 not host - peeter sagal 04:34:37 is the host 04:34:42 er, peter 04:34:47 oh, he was the host while peter was on vacation 04:34:51 oh 04:34:57 (it's recorded in Chicago, BTW ;) 04:35:02 well he's a guest panelist 04:35:05 yep 04:36:38 hey redmonk 04:37:04 wesf! 04:37:06 hey 04:37:24 we saw WWDTM live in Phoenix 04:37:28 * wesf is lagged to hell 04:37:33 awwww 04:38:18 wmf has quit (Killed (NickServ (Ghost: wesf!~Wesley@cs666869-177.austin.rr.com))) 04:38:37 mwahaha 04:38:41 I am the ghost of wmf! 04:38:54 heh 04:39:00 now he's going to haunt us 04:39:23 * wesf makes scary ghost noises 04:39:49 hey wmf, did you see this awesome picture of redmonk? http://www.120degrees.com/photos/DSCN0600.jpg 04:40:00 redmonk's the bald one checking his email 04:40:03 no 04:40:07 * redmonk yawns and pulls out non-licensed nuclear accelerator... 04:40:27 and _supposed_ to be cooking the food 04:40:27 hmm, I can actually talk to that server 04:42:22 wesf has quit ("Hack the Planet (and find me some decent routers, while you're at it!)") 04:51:17 http://www.guha.com/rdfdb/internals.html 04:51:40 yeah 04:53:49 Does swhack have a chump bot? 04:54:11 * AaronSw points to chumpster 04:54:19 type "@ " befor the url 04:54:28 Ah... 04:54:36 Shall I chump this page? 04:54:39 sure 04:55:02 @http://www.guha.com/rdfdb/internals.html 04:55:09 Upps 04:55:13 you left out the space ;) 04:55:15 @ http://www.guha.com/rdfdb/internals.html 04:55:25 there ya go... 04:55:32 chumpster's a little slow these days... 04:55:51 A: http://www.guha.com/rdfdb/internals.html from eikeon 04:56:03 A:|rdfDB Internals 04:56:21 titled item A 04:57:03 Cool... was still looking for examples of chumpbot format... so you beat me to it. 04:57:21 then do A::comment goes here 04:57:23 to comment 04:58:57 A:A way to map RDF triples into BTrees 04:59:17 two colons needed here 05:05:36 * AaronSw wanders off to bed 05:05:45 g'nite 05:07:40 redmonk has quit ("cya") 08:51:39 xena has quit ("like a rabid animal") 08:53:31 Galahad (xena@mewtwo.espnow.com) has joined #swhack 08:54:11 Galahad is now known as xena 11:30:29 I don't follow: you'd need to have a great than n amount of lines, because the hashes that you get will probably contain clashes 11:30:38 I actually found that in practice you may need a bit more 11:30:45 (that is, one bit) 11:31:06 because not all of the hashes will be represented - there will be some missing 11:33:34 so for 24 bits I used 25: I'm still not sure that it'll work. 20/21 was close 12:22:26 * sbp sends off a big XPointer/HTML rant 12:28:05 wow, neat: http://www.langdale.com.au/SOX/ 12:28:45 ooh, a list of them: http://www.pault.com/X/1015614747/index_html 12:31:15 via. http://www.xegesis.org/ 12:40:02 * AaronSw makes note to turn volume down before sleeping 12:40:18 sbp's comment interrupted good some dream 12:40:40 heh, sorry 12:40:52 wmf wanted to create an alternate syntax called XPack that was compressed 12:41:18 yuck 12:45:46 today is almost definitely not going to be a good day 12:46:19 today will be whatever you make it 12:46:41 not likely 12:47:20 heh 12:50:26 MorbusIff (~morbus@morbus.totalnetnh.net) has joined #swhack 12:50:37 hey Iffster 12:51:44 "Perl web services are in a world of hurt." 12:52:27 how often do you get articles that feed by distaste for perl _and_ web services? 12:57:03 urgh, my stomach is already hurting 12:57:14 and i haven't even gotten out of bed yet 12:57:30 Hmm... Aaron's turned into Charlie Brown 12:57:40 Heh. 13:05:34 is introspection the techincal term for navelgazing? 13:05:43 yep 13:06:25 "perl web s..." sigh 13:06:34 :-) 13:07:55 argh. 13:07:58 stupid multi desktop thingi 13:11:10 MorbusIff has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 13:13:25 MorbusIff (~morbus@morbus.totalnetnh.net) has joined #swhack 13:13:46 hm, amk is doing redfoot/zodb stuff. cool! 13:21:33 MorbusIff has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 13:23:17 MorbusIff (~morbus@morbus.totalnetnh.net) has joined #swhack 13:27:01 MorbusIff has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 13:28:41 MorbusIff (~morbus@morbus.totalnetnh.net) has joined #swhack 13:28:45 MorbusIff has quit (Remote closed the connection) 13:32:48 MorbusIff (~morbus@morbus.totalnetnh.net) has joined #swhack 13:38:08 ok. this time i'm staying. 13:38:08 for longer than last time. 13:38:15 :-) 13:38:32 keep knocking the plug out or something? 13:38:35 just downloading updates for win2k. 13:38:47 gotta install office2k and then that should be it. 13:40:58 i love my new machine. 13:51:05 MorbusIff is now known as Morbus 14:08:16 Morbus has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 14:10:08 MorbusIff (~morbus@morbus.totalnetnh.net) has joined #swhack 14:13:11 damn. 14:13:20 i have to remove ansi support from leechoo v1.1. 14:13:24 or else make it linux based only. 14:13:26 sigh. 14:13:49 why? 14:14:00 cos ansi doesn't work under windows. 14:14:15 i was hoping Term::ANSIColor would recognize the Win OS automatically and not spit the color codes. 14:14:20 it should do with ansi.sys loaded 14:14:34 yah, and how many people know how to do that nowadays? 14:16:15 i'll just have to add an os check in the script i guess. 14:18:33 leechoo? 14:18:42 yah. 14:18:45 a script i banged out last night. 14:19:00 it logs into as many pop3 servers as you define, and downloads all the attachments into a folder you define. 14:19:15 tonight, it'll be able to cookie auth with yahoo groups, and archive groups/files as well. 14:19:24 why does it do this? 14:19:54 why? cos I have some drop box email accounts that just pick up pictures (posters, cartoons, etc.) and I got sick of dling and extracting them manually with my email program. 14:20:16 ah, neat 14:20:35 its perl, of course. 90 lines so far. has the option of delete emails from server as well. 14:20:38 gotta expand on that. 14:20:56 i may make it a runtime and distribute. dunno if I want to though. 14:21:12 the only other yahoo groups extractor I know of is one for os x which is shareware, and a non-working sf.net one. 14:23:18 the y! groups thing would only do attachments, but it'd be simple to dl message bodies too for a normal archival. 14:23:33 i've seen nothing that leeches Files from groups though, so that'll be nice. 14:33:10 do you need a group archiver, AaronSw? 14:33:26 it'd probably come in useful 14:38:21 MorbusIff has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 14:39:44 Gotta run 14:40:11 MorbusIff (~morbus@morbus.totalnetnh.net) has joined #swhack 14:46:46 oierw (~mathew@pcp994425pcs.goosck01.sc.comcast.net) has joined #swhack 16:58:59 davb (dave@alb-24-58-162-46.nycap.rr.com) has joined #swhack 16:59:05 * AaronSw remembers why check.theinfo.org is down 16:59:07 hi oierw, davb 16:59:49 heh! "A man in Chicago licensed OmniWeb and the next day he got free fries with his burger. A woman in Des Moines didn't license it and a week later she stubbed her toe really badly. Coincidence?" 16:59:55 heheh 17:00:22 whoo. got my multiple desktop working. 17:06:50 hi AaronSw 17:08:14 heh! 17:08:25 http://www.etonline.com/reuters/N09230124.htm 17:08:25 RIAA went after a token internal company file share 17:08:25 they're making examples 17:08:25 they learned the trick from their older siblings, who used to create a similar effect by breaking people's knees 17:09:25 [[[ 17:09:26 [13:09] it's gonna be called leecharoo. 17:09:26 [13:09] and the logo is a angry kangaroo running around stealing shit into his pouch. 17:09:26 [13:09] leecharoo! 17:09:26 [13:09] LOL! 17:09:26 [13:09] yeaaah. 17:09:28 ]]] 17:48:34 redmonk (~steve@63.149.73.20) has joined #swhack 17:59:38 lo all 18:00:06 (i sound like hamlet... "Lo ye of the noble Swhack!") 18:00:17 :-) 18:00:48 * redmonk 's vorpal sword goes snicker-snak 18:01:15 [[[ 18:01:16 14:00] pleasantly feminine 18:01:16 [14:01] pleasantly feminine? 18:01:16 [14:01] like... perfumely feminine, or scented tampon feminine? 18:01:16 ]]] 18:01:27 * redmonk would like to see Hamlet re-writtne by Lewis Carroll 18:02:16 heh, that'd be interesting 18:02:28 * AaronSw moves airport base station - nobody say anything interesting ;) 18:04:48 heh 18:04:53 well, that won't be hard for me. 18:05:16 cool, looks like i'm still here 18:09:03 * AaronSw waves from the porch 18:11:13 * MorbusIff throws a frisbee. 18:12:03 aargh, bee! 18:13:09 hehee. 18:13:17 oh no! 18:13:21 if he flies in fron tof the airport! 18:13:25 AaronSw, will be ... 18:13:28 in and.. 18:13:31 18:13:32 out! 18:13:44 heh 18:13:52 i think airport can handle a bee. 18:14:04 but not too much more 18:16:36 oh no! 18:16:42 a *two bees* 18:16:44 and they're in love! 18:16:47 ewwww! 18:18:09 hazmat has quit (Connection timed out) 19:08:31 hey AaronSw 19:08:39 hey there 19:13:54 aargh, i just overwrited my code 19:16:13 wrotel 19:21:23 yeah 19:41:01 .time 19:41:02 2002/04/10 19:40:58.9447 Universal 19:43:53 Ash_ (~aaron@166.70.121.2) has joined #swhack 19:48:44 hey there 19:49:10 hey sbp 19:50:42 Hmm... why does RCS sometimes display the uname twice? 19:53:45 where's deltab when you need him, eh? :-) 19:54:01 * sbp STFW 19:55:38 oh, it's the author and locker 19:56:47 pff, who needs U+0394b, eh? 20:06:18 RCS 20:08:30 RCS? 20:08:37 .acronym STFW 20:08:38 STFW: Search The Freaking Web (polite form; similar to RTFM) 20:09:00 oh, RCS 20:09:06 s/search/searches/ 20:09:11 heh, *that* RCS 20:09:18 or: oh, you mean R*C*S 20:09:27 RCS 20:09:33 the source code thing 20:09:38 U+0394b? 20:09:47 the revision control thing, I'll have you know 20:09:48 not the recently-appropriated-by-dave-ronym 20:10:30 CygBot (~sbp@m628-mp1-cvx4c.pop.ntl.com) has joined #swhack 20:10:43 $ lynx http://www.unicode.org/Public/UNIDATA/UnicodeData.txt -dump | grep 0394 20:11:16 94;GREEK CAPITAL LETTER DELTA;Lu;0;L;;;;;N;;;;03B4; 20:11:16 03B4;GREEK SMALL LETTER DELTA;Ll;0;L;;;;;N;;;0394;;0394 20:11:26 6AB;MATHEMATICAL BOLD CAPITAL DELTA;Lu;0;L; 0394;;;;N;;;;; 20:11:26 1D6E5;MATHEMATICAL ITALIC CAPITAL DELTA;Lu;0;L; 0394;;;;N;;;;; 20:11:26 1D71F;MATHEMATICAL BOLD ITALIC CAPITAL DELTA;Lu;0;L; 0394;;;;N;;;;; 20:11:26 1D759;MATHEMATICAL SANS-SERIF BOLD CAPITAL DELTA;Lu;0;L; 0394;;;;N;;;;; 20:11:26 1D793;MATHEMATICAL SANS-SERIF BOLD ITALIC CAPITAL DELTA;Lu;0;L; 0394;;;;N; 20:11:54 > 0394;GREEK CAPITAL LETTER DELTA;Lu;0;L;;;;;N;;;;03B4; 20:11:55 > 03B4;GREEK SMALL LETTER DELTA;Ll;0;L;;;;;N;;;0394;;0394 20:11:56 > 1D6AB;MATHEMATICAL BOLD CAPITAL DELTA;Lu;0;L; 0394;;;;N;;;;; 20:11:57 > 1D6E5;MATHEMATICAL ITALIC CAPITAL DELTA;Lu;0;L; 0394;;;;N;;;;; 20:11:58 > 1D71F;MATHEMATICAL BOLD ITALIC CAPITAL DELTA;Lu;0;L; 0394;;;;N;;;;; 20:11:59 > 1D759;MATHEMATICAL SANS-SERIF BOLD CAPITAL DELTA;Lu;0;L; 0394;;;;N;;;;; 20:12:00 > 1D793;MATHEMATICAL SANS-SERIF BOLD ITALIC CAPITAL DELTA;Lu;0;L; 0394;;;;N 20:12:01 > [...] 20:12:19 I dunno where you got 94 from. I think you're missing the 03 20:12:21 CygBot has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 20:12:51 so what is it? 20:13:00 > 0394;GREEK CAPITAL LETTER DELTA;Lu;0;L;;;;;N;;;;03B4; 20:13:52 CygBot.. you suck 20:13:53 heh 20:14:31 CygBot clearly rocks, and so you are much the foolier 20:16:56 heh 20:24:53 Gotta run 20:25:22 c'ya 20:35:36 redmonk has quit ("cya") 20:41:42 MorbusIff has left #swhack 20:42:33