IRC log of swhack on 2002-04-10

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00:16:39 [sbp]
Hmm... can I opt for 7 bit? Perhaps 8 bits was too optimistic :-)
00:17:39 [sbp]
er, hex "bits", that is. 28 binary bits
00:32:34 [sbp]
even 7 may be optimistic
00:40:46 [sbp]
* sbp has 16-bit working, and is trying for 20-bit
00:45:44 [sbp]
hooray, 5 works
00:47:09 [sbp]
it took 319.779999971 seconds...
00:53:55 [sbp]
6 will take about an hour. I'm trying it now
00:56:19 [sbp]
7 will probably take about a day of processing power, so the goal of 8 within a week was certainly over the top, unless I improve my program
01:24:32 [jeremiah]
hey spb
01:24:40 [sbp]
Hi
01:24:48 [jeremiah]
what are you doing?
01:24:51 [jeremiah]
trying to crack something?
01:25:06 [sbp]
no. I'm creating a document that has its own hash embedded within itself
01:25:21 [jeremiah]
oooh
01:25:25 [jeremiah]
... why?
01:25:27 [sbp]
well... pseudocracking, perhaps
01:25:32 [sbp]
why: boredom
01:25:35 [sbp]
:-)
01:26:02 [jeremiah]
hmm
01:26:04 [sbp]
well, it's and interesting programmng task, and once you set it off running, it can fend for itself
01:26:12 [jeremiah]
after that you should make something so it when hashed it makes a sentence
01:26:17 [jeremiah]
like iloveyou
01:26:18 [jeremiah]
or whatever
01:26:30 [sbp]
erm... that's some funky hex you've got there
01:26:44 [sbp]
you'd have to use an odd base
01:26:50 [sbp]
base 36?
01:27:18 [sbp]
actually, that'd be really cool
01:27:32 [sbp]
a document that has the hash "iloveyou" when encoded in base 36. heh
01:29:34 [sbp]
but that about 41 bits, so well beyond what I can do
01:29:41 [sbp]
s/that/that's/
01:31:33 [sbp]
ah! actually, I could invent a new numbering system. so that e, i, l, o, u, v, y = 0, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6
01:31:52 [sbp]
base 7 with odd symbols
01:32:43 [sbp]
which'd only be about 22 bits - something I can easily do
01:35:50 [sbp]
here's "iloveyou" in ASCII binary: '0110100101101100011011110111011001100101011110010110111101110101'
01:39:25 [sbp]
heh: http://www.cs.columbia.edu/~zeph/lots_o_bits
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02:00:51 [Morbus]
yay. my attachment sucker is working nicely.
02:00:53 [Morbus]
even has super spiffy ansi colors. heh.
02:01:15 [sbp]
glad to hear it, but unfortunately I must run
02:01:21 [sbp]
c'ya
02:11:07 [AaronSw]
I don't follow: <sbp> you'd need to have a great than n amount of lines, because the hashes that you get will probably contain clashes
02:11:45 [AaronSw]
jer: to keep it loading you just hold the connection open
02:29:19 [walloper]
<MysticOne> Good morning everyone. We're about to do a little bit of rehubbing to help settle Europe while most of them are sleeping. So, you may see a few splits in the next few moments. We apologize ahead of time for the inconvenience, and hopefully this won't take long. Thank you for using Open Projects.
02:30:40 [walloper]
<MysticOne> As usual, you're listening to WOPN, the most wondermous place to get non-critical news and information for and about the Open Projects Network. If you'd prefer not to receive these fine messages (well, we think they're fine usually), simply /mode YourNick -w to tune them out. Thanks again for using the Open Projects Network!
02:30:52 [AaronSw]
wondermous?
02:53:59 [walloper]
<MysticOne> Okay, looks like we've got it situated the way we wanted it now. Thank you for being patient and bearing with us. We appreciate your usage of the Open Projects Network, and hope everyone has a pleasant day.
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03:02:45 [Morbus]
if i remove all the comments in this pop3 script, its only 91 lines. heh.
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03:47:55 [AaronSw]
hm, does derek powazek know who i am?
03:54:24 [xoot]
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03:54:28 [xoot]
hello
03:55:22 [xoot]
any1 here?
03:55:45 [xoot]
heh
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03:58:12 [xoot]
this is so weird!
03:58:18 [xoot]
I'm being logged
03:58:37 [wmf]
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03:58:44 [xoot]
:D I wonder how many people actually view the logs
03:58:54 [xoot]
hello
03:59:13 [wmf]
hello swhack!
03:59:36 [xoot]
nobody's alive except me, i think :D
03:59:41 [AaronSw]
wmf!
03:59:42 [xoot]
and you, of course
04:00:34 [xoot]
heh... I have an idea
04:00:55 [xoot]
what if you could participate in irc
04:00:58 [xoot]
via cgi
04:01:03 [AaronSw]
already been done
04:01:25 [xoot]
;P
04:01:48 [xoot]
yeah... it'd be cool for lynx users
04:02:02 [eikeon]
Hi all... question for you guys...
04:02:13 [xoot]
shoot
04:02:29 [eikeon]
Know of some pointers to things that talk about how to map triples into BTrees?
04:02:49 [eikeon]
I have looked at things in the past but do not remember what/where
04:03:00 [xoot]
* xoot shakes his head
04:03:45 [xoot]
* xoot makes #macchat
04:03:46 [AaronSw]
B-Trees... hm
04:03:59 [wmf]
McCusker!
04:04:40 [AaronSw]
the way i've seen people do rdf in bdb is to create three (or more) tables of the form sp->o, so->p, po->s and such
04:05:26 [eikeon]
That is what I was thinking of.... thanks.
04:05:33 [AaronSw]
implemented in dbstore.py in the infogami code
04:05:38 [AaronSw]
(but not well-tested)
04:05:53 [xoot]
cool!
04:06:21 [AaronSw]
weird, gnupdate has an rdf package format
04:07:49 [xoot]
this is weird: It dosen't say "<xoot> #macchat is operational" in the logger
04:08:14 [xoot]
brb
04:08:16 [xoot]
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04:08:23 [AaronSw]
logger ignores lines starting with #
04:09:16 [eikeon]
.google dbstore.py
04:09:17 [xena]
no results found.
04:09:30 [AaronSw]
http://cvs.plesh.net/infogami/dbstore.py
04:09:53 [wmf]
ugh, I can't get to xml.apache.org either
04:10:11 [AaronSw]
dbstore.py needs a bunch of work, though
04:10:17 [AaronSw]
i can see xml.apache.org fine
04:10:31 [wmf]
yeah, I think it's a RR routing problem
04:10:50 [xoot]
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04:11:18 [xoot]
and xena's a search engine?
04:11:28 [AaronSw]
among other things
04:11:36 [xoot]
.google xoot
04:11:37 [xena]
xoot: http://www.arnegraphite.com/scoot_trickxoot.htm
04:11:57 [xoot]
.google aaronsw
04:11:58 [xena]
aaronsw: http://www.aaronsw.com/&e=922
04:12:02 [xoot]
cool
04:12:45 [xoot]
is that your site?
04:13:02 [AaronSw]
yes
04:13:16 [xoot]
very nice
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04:14:45 [wmf]
AaronSw: while I was off the net I got an idea about building a weblog tool with xindice and xslt
04:15:01 [AaronSw]
uh oh
04:15:19 [wmf]
that bad?
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04:26:15 [AaronSw]
xslt is no fun, xindice seems little fun
04:28:11 [AaronSw]
* DanCon feels a little dirty playing stupid-html-tricks, but the chart sure looks kewl ;-)
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04:34:17 [AaronSw]
isn't adam felber the host of wwdtm?
04:34:32 [redmonk]
not host - peeter sagal
04:34:37 [redmonk]
is the host
04:34:42 [redmonk]
er, peter
04:34:47 [AaronSw]
oh, he was the host while peter was on vacation
04:34:51 [redmonk]
oh
04:34:57 [AaronSw]
(it's recorded in Chicago, BTW ;)
04:35:02 [redmonk]
well he's a guest panelist
04:35:05 [redmonk]
yep
04:36:38 [wesf]
hey redmonk
04:37:04 [redmonk]
wesf!
04:37:06 [redmonk]
hey
04:37:24 [redmonk]
we saw WWDTM live in Phoenix
04:37:28 [wesf]
* wesf is lagged to hell
04:37:33 [redmonk]
awwww
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04:38:37 [wesf]
mwahaha
04:38:41 [wesf]
I am the ghost of wmf!
04:38:54 [AaronSw]
heh
04:39:00 [AaronSw]
now he's going to haunt us
04:39:23 [wesf]
* wesf makes scary ghost noises
04:39:49 [AaronSw]
hey wmf, did you see this awesome picture of redmonk? http://www.120degrees.com/photos/DSCN0600.jpg
04:40:00 [AaronSw]
redmonk's the bald one checking his email
04:40:03 [wesf]
no
04:40:07 [redmonk]
* redmonk yawns and pulls out non-licensed nuclear accelerator...
04:40:27 [AaronSw]
and _supposed_ to be cooking the food
04:40:27 [wesf]
hmm, I can actually talk to that server
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04:51:17 [eikeon]
http://www.guha.com/rdfdb/internals.html
04:51:40 [AaronSw]
yeah
04:53:49 [eikeon]
Does swhack have a chump bot?
04:54:11 [AaronSw]
* AaronSw points to chumpster
04:54:19 [AaronSw]
type "@ " befor the url
04:54:28 [eikeon]
Ah...
04:54:36 [eikeon]
Shall I chump this page?
04:54:39 [AaronSw]
sure
04:55:02 [eikeon]
@http://www.guha.com/rdfdb/internals.html
04:55:09 [eikeon]
Upps
04:55:13 [AaronSw]
you left out the space ;)
04:55:15 [eikeon]
@ http://www.guha.com/rdfdb/internals.html
04:55:25 [AaronSw]
there ya go...
04:55:32 [AaronSw]
chumpster's a little slow these days...
04:55:51 [chumpster]
A: http://www.guha.com/rdfdb/internals.html from eikeon
04:56:03 [AaronSw]
A:|rdfDB Internals
04:56:21 [chumpster]
titled item A
04:57:03 [eikeon]
Cool... was still looking for examples of chumpbot format... so you beat me to it.
04:57:21 [AaronSw]
then do <nick> A::comment goes here
04:57:23 [AaronSw]
to comment
04:58:57 [eikeon]
A:A way to map RDF triples into BTrees
04:59:17 [AaronSw]
two colons needed here
05:05:36 [AaronSw]
* AaronSw wanders off to bed
05:05:45 [eikeon]
g'nite
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11:30:29 [sbp]
<AaronSw> I don't follow: <sbp> you'd need to have a great than n amount of lines, because the hashes that you get will probably contain clashes
11:30:38 [sbp]
I actually found that in practice you may need a bit more
11:30:45 [sbp]
(that is, one bit)
11:31:06 [sbp]
because not all of the hashes will be represented - there will be some missing
11:33:34 [sbp]
so for 24 bits I used 25: I'm still not sure that it'll work. 20/21 was close
12:22:26 [sbp]
* sbp sends off a big XPointer/HTML rant
12:28:05 [sbp]
wow, neat: http://www.langdale.com.au/SOX/
12:28:45 [sbp]
ooh, a list of them: http://www.pault.com/X/1015614747/index_html
12:31:15 [sbp]
via. http://www.xegesis.org/
12:40:02 [AaronSw]
* AaronSw makes note to turn volume down before sleeping
12:40:18 [AaronSw]
sbp's comment interrupted good some dream
12:40:40 [sbp]
heh, sorry
12:40:52 [AaronSw]
wmf wanted to create an alternate syntax called XPack that was compressed
12:41:18 [sbp]
yuck
12:45:46 [AaronSw]
today is almost definitely not going to be a good day
12:46:19 [sbp]
today will be whatever you make it
12:46:41 [AaronSw]
not likely
12:47:20 [sbp]
heh
12:50:26 [MorbusIff]
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12:50:37 [sbp]
hey Iffster
12:51:44 [AaronSw]
"Perl web services are in a world of hurt."
12:52:27 [AaronSw]
how often do you get articles that feed by distaste for perl _and_ web services?
12:57:03 [AaronSw]
urgh, my stomach is already hurting
12:57:14 [AaronSw]
and i haven't even gotten out of bed yet
12:57:30 [sbp]
Hmm... Aaron's turned into Charlie Brown
12:57:40 [AaronSw]
Heh.
13:05:34 [AaronSw]
is introspection the techincal term for navelgazing?
13:05:43 [sbp]
yep
13:06:25 [MorbusIff]
"perl web s..." sigh <G>
13:06:34 [sbp]
:-)
13:07:55 [MorbusIff]
argh.
13:07:58 [MorbusIff]
stupid multi desktop thingi
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13:13:46 [AaronSw]
hm, amk is doing redfoot/zodb stuff. cool!
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13:38:08 [MorbusIff]
ok. this time i'm staying.
13:38:08 [MorbusIff]
for longer than last time.
13:38:15 [AaronSw]
:-)
13:38:32 [AaronSw]
keep knocking the plug out or something?
13:38:35 [MorbusIff]
just downloading updates for win2k.
13:38:47 [MorbusIff]
gotta install office2k and then that should be it.
13:40:58 [MorbusIff]
i love my new machine.
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14:13:11 [MorbusIff]
damn.
14:13:20 [MorbusIff]
i have to remove ansi support from leechoo v1.1.
14:13:24 [MorbusIff]
or else make it linux based only.
14:13:26 [MorbusIff]
sigh.
14:13:49 [deltab]
why?
14:14:00 [MorbusIff]
cos ansi doesn't work under windows.
14:14:15 [MorbusIff]
i was hoping Term::ANSIColor would recognize the Win OS automatically and not spit the color codes.
14:14:20 [deltab]
it should do with ansi.sys loaded
14:14:34 [MorbusIff]
yah, and how many people know how to do that nowadays?
14:16:15 [MorbusIff]
i'll just have to add an os check in the script i guess.
14:18:33 [AaronSw]
leechoo?
14:18:42 [MorbusIff]
yah.
14:18:45 [MorbusIff]
a script i banged out last night.
14:19:00 [MorbusIff]
it logs into as many pop3 servers as you define, and downloads all the attachments into a folder you define.
14:19:15 [MorbusIff]
tonight, it'll be able to cookie auth with yahoo groups, and archive groups/files as well.
14:19:24 [AaronSw]
why does it do this?
14:19:54 [MorbusIff]
why? cos I have some drop box email accounts that just pick up pictures (posters, cartoons, etc.) and I got sick of dling and extracting them manually with my email program.
14:20:16 [AaronSw]
ah, neat
14:20:35 [MorbusIff]
its perl, of course. 90 lines so far. has the option of delete emails from server as well.
14:20:38 [MorbusIff]
gotta expand on that.
14:20:56 [MorbusIff]
i may make it a runtime and distribute. dunno if I want to though.
14:21:12 [MorbusIff]
the only other yahoo groups extractor I know of is one for os x which is shareware, and a non-working sf.net one.
14:23:18 [MorbusIff]
the y! groups thing would only do attachments, but it'd be simple to dl message bodies too for a normal archival.
14:23:33 [MorbusIff]
i've seen nothing that leeches Files from groups though, so that'll be nice.
14:33:10 [MorbusIff]
do you need a group archiver, AaronSw?
14:33:26 [AaronSw]
it'd probably come in useful
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14:39:44 [AaronSw]
Gotta run
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16:59:05 [AaronSw]
* AaronSw remembers why check.theinfo.org is down
16:59:07 [AaronSw]
hi oierw, davb
16:59:49 [AaronSw]
heh! "A man in Chicago licensed OmniWeb and the next day he got free fries with his burger. A woman in Des Moines didn't license it and a week later she stubbed her toe really badly. Coincidence?"
16:59:55 [MorbusIff]
heheh
17:00:22 [MorbusIff]
whoo. got my multiple desktop working.
17:06:50 [davb]
hi AaronSw
17:08:14 [AaronSw]
heh!
17:08:25 [AaronSw]
<cherubawy> http://www.etonline.com/reuters/N09230124.htm
17:08:25 [AaronSw]
<cherubawy> RIAA went after a token internal company file share
17:08:25 [AaronSw]
<cherubawy> they're making examples
17:08:25 [AaronSw]
<cherubawy> they learned the trick from their older siblings, who used to create a similar effect by breaking people's knees
17:09:25 [MorbusIff]
[[[
17:09:26 [MorbusIff]
[13:09] <MorbusIff> it's gonna be called leecharoo.
17:09:26 [MorbusIff]
[13:09] <MorbusIff> and the logo is a angry kangaroo running around stealing shit into his pouch.
17:09:26 [MorbusIff]
[13:09] <coderman> leecharoo!
17:09:26 [MorbusIff]
[13:09] <coderman> LOL!
17:09:26 [MorbusIff]
[13:09] <MorbusIff> yeaaah. <G>
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]]]
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lo all
18:00:06 [redmonk]
(i sound like hamlet... "Lo ye of the noble Swhack!")
18:00:17 [AaronSw]
:-)
18:00:48 [redmonk]
* redmonk 's vorpal sword goes snicker-snak
18:01:15 [MorbusIff]
[[[
18:01:16 [MorbusIff]
14:00] <rik> pleasantly feminine
18:01:16 [MorbusIff]
[14:01] <MorbusIff> pleasantly feminine?
18:01:16 [MorbusIff]
[14:01] <MorbusIff> like... perfumely feminine, or scented tampon feminine?
18:01:16 [MorbusIff]
]]]
18:01:27 [redmonk]
* redmonk would like to see Hamlet re-writtne by Lewis Carroll
18:02:16 [AaronSw]
heh, that'd be interesting
18:02:28 [AaronSw]
* AaronSw moves airport base station - nobody say anything interesting ;)
18:04:48 [MorbusIff]
heh
18:04:53 [MorbusIff]
well, that won't be hard for me.
18:05:16 [AaronSw]
cool, looks like i'm still here
18:09:03 [AaronSw]
* AaronSw waves from the porch
18:11:13 [MorbusIff]
* MorbusIff throws a frisbee.
18:12:03 [AaronSw]
aargh, bee!
18:13:09 [MorbusIff]
hehee.
18:13:17 [MorbusIff]
oh no!
18:13:21 [MorbusIff]
if he flies in fron tof the airport!
18:13:25 [MorbusIff]
AaronSw, will be ...
18:13:28 [MorbusIff]
in and..
18:13:31 [MorbusIff]
<crackle>
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out!
18:13:44 [AaronSw]
heh
18:13:52 [AaronSw]
i think airport can handle a bee.
18:14:04 [AaronSw]
but not too much more
18:16:36 [MorbusIff]
oh no!
18:16:42 [MorbusIff]
a *two bees*
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and they're in love!
18:16:47 [MorbusIff]
ewwww!
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19:08:31 [oierw]
hey AaronSw
19:08:39 [AaronSw]
hey there
19:13:54 [AaronSw]
aargh, i just overwrited my code
19:16:13 [MorbusIff]
wrotel
19:21:23 [AaronSw]
yeah
19:41:01 [AaronSw]
.time
19:41:02 [xena]
2002/04/10 19:40:58.9447 Universal
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19:48:44 [sbp]
hey there
19:49:10 [MorbusIff]
hey sbp
19:50:42 [sbp]
Hmm... why does RCS sometimes display the uname twice?
19:53:45 [sbp]
where's deltab when you need him, eh? :-)
19:54:01 [sbp]
* sbp STFW
19:55:38 [sbp]
oh, it's the author and locker
19:56:47 [sbp]
pff, who needs U+0394b, eh?
20:06:18 [Ash_]
RCS
20:08:30 [AaronSw]
RCS?
20:08:37 [AaronSw]
.acronym STFW
20:08:38 [xena]
STFW: Search The Freaking Web (polite form; similar to RTFM)
20:09:00 [AaronSw]
oh, RCS
20:09:06 [sbp]
s/search/searches/
20:09:11 [sbp]
heh, *that* RCS
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or: oh, you mean R*C*S
20:09:27 [Ash_]
RCS
20:09:33 [Ash_]
the source code thing
20:09:38 [AaronSw]
U+0394b?
20:09:47 [sbp]
the revision control thing, I'll have you know
20:09:48 [Ash_]
not the recently-appropriated-by-dave-ronym
20:10:30 [CygBot]
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20:10:43 [sbp]
$ lynx http://www.unicode.org/Public/UNIDATA/UnicodeData.txt -dump | grep 0394
20:11:16 [AaronSw]
94;GREEK CAPITAL LETTER DELTA;Lu;0;L;;;;;N;;;;03B4;
20:11:16 [AaronSw]
03B4;GREEK SMALL LETTER DELTA;Ll;0;L;;;;;N;;;0394;;0394
20:11:26 [AaronSw]
6AB;MATHEMATICAL BOLD CAPITAL DELTA;Lu;0;L;<font> 0394;;;;N;;;;;
20:11:26 [AaronSw]
1D6E5;MATHEMATICAL ITALIC CAPITAL DELTA;Lu;0;L;<font> 0394;;;;N;;;;;
20:11:26 [AaronSw]
1D71F;MATHEMATICAL BOLD ITALIC CAPITAL DELTA;Lu;0;L;<font> 0394;;;;N;;;;;
20:11:26 [AaronSw]
1D759;MATHEMATICAL SANS-SERIF BOLD CAPITAL DELTA;Lu;0;L;<font> 0394;;;;N;;;;;
20:11:26 [AaronSw]
1D793;MATHEMATICAL SANS-SERIF BOLD ITALIC CAPITAL DELTA;Lu;0;L;<font> 0394;;;;N;
20:11:54 [CygBot]
> 0394;GREEK CAPITAL LETTER DELTA;Lu;0;L;;;;;N;;;;03B4;
20:11:55 [CygBot]
> 03B4;GREEK SMALL LETTER DELTA;Ll;0;L;;;;;N;;;0394;;0394
20:11:56 [CygBot]
> 1D6AB;MATHEMATICAL BOLD CAPITAL DELTA;Lu;0;L;<font> 0394;;;;N;;;;;
20:11:57 [CygBot]
> 1D6E5;MATHEMATICAL ITALIC CAPITAL DELTA;Lu;0;L;<font> 0394;;;;N;;;;;
20:11:58 [CygBot]
> 1D71F;MATHEMATICAL BOLD ITALIC CAPITAL DELTA;Lu;0;L;<font> 0394;;;;N;;;;;
20:11:59 [CygBot]
> 1D759;MATHEMATICAL SANS-SERIF BOLD CAPITAL DELTA;Lu;0;L;<font> 0394;;;;N;;;;;
20:12:00 [CygBot]
> 1D793;MATHEMATICAL SANS-SERIF BOLD ITALIC CAPITAL DELTA;Lu;0;L;<font> 0394;;;;N
20:12:01 [CygBot]
> [...]
20:12:19 [sbp]
I dunno where you got 94 from. I think you're missing the 03
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CygBot has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer))
20:12:51 [AaronSw]
so what is it?
20:13:00 [sbp]
<CygBot> > 0394;GREEK CAPITAL LETTER DELTA;Lu;0;L;;;;;N;;;;03B4;
20:13:52 [Ash_]
CygBot.. you suck
20:13:53 [Ash_]
heh
20:14:31 [sbp]
CygBot clearly rocks, and so you are much the foolier
20:16:56 [Ash_]
heh
20:24:53 [AaronSw]
Gotta run
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c'ya
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20:44:36 [walloper]
<lilo> Tonight's Gelhausen peak was 6,680 clients. The high water mark for the day was 6,755. Hmmm, not bad.
20:48:46 [walloper]
<lilo> Restart of a very small server in process. Currently 6 users.
21:27:21 [walloper]
<lilo> Error: administrator not yet in habit of running special configuration for calvino. It should be accepting connects again in a moment. Thanks.
21:28:50 [lilo]
[Global Notice] Hi all. Just a reminder. User mode +w brings you non-critical comments, announcements and occasionally-detailed server administrative information on wallops. Thanks.
21:28:59 [davb]
I wonder how many hackers are allegic to bees but never found out until 802.11b
21:29:07 [MorbusIff]
hehehe
21:29:07 [davb]
s/allegic/allergic
21:29:30 [walloper]
<lilo> Calvino (ipv6) should now be accepting connections once again.
21:32:51 [walloper]
<lilo`> Thanks to the 1,591 users, clients, bots and other software contrivances currently viewing these messages. OPN appreciates your interest. :)
21:34:54 [Ash_]
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walloper is not unique!
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22:15:14 [sbp]
Hey hey, it's Morbus
22:15:19 [sbp]
hey hey, no it's not
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22:18:54 [AaronSw]
hey hey hey
22:19:20 [Ash]
hey ASW
22:19:35 [sbp]
hey dudes, sup wit yo?
22:20:23 [AaronSw]
I just got to seem some old teachers, it was pretty cool.
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It's really a beautiful day out.
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22:30:17 [redmonk]
yo
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malty wine!
22:32:10 [redmonk]
sup sbp
22:32:20 [sbp]
I just told you. Malty wine
22:32:26 [redmonk]
um, ok
22:32:50 [redmonk]
* redmonk thinks to himself "mad englishman...."
22:33:12 [sbp]
Pff. The road is free to all.
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heh
22:33:46 [redmonk]
so what is malty wine
22:34:05 [sbp]
wow, I just keep getting Document/Car/Hill/Valley mail
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er... it's wine that is malty. Hence: malty wine
22:35:04 [sbp]
bwahaha! hillarious:-
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[[[
22:35:10 [sbp]
Much better! In fact, the only tenable position.
22:35:32 [Ash]
bye bye
22:35:33 [sbp]
Because if you adopt the notion that
22:35:33 [sbp]
<http;//www.mnot.net/> a :Person.
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I would be forced to conclude that you, Mark, will expire
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alas too soon: [1]
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Expires: Thu, 11 Apr 2002 09:14:08 GMT
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<http://www.mnot.net/> a :Person;
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Ash has quit ("hail satan")
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http:expires "20020411T091408".
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which gives you only a few hours. Sad.
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]]]
22:35:42 [sbp]
oh, and he goes on to do a little Through the Looking Glass bit
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wonderful!
22:43:25 [AaronSw]
.sig:
22:43:28 [AaronSw]
GNU slash Linux is still less syllables that Windows two thousand. - RMS
22:43:28 [AaronSw]
(I guess that's why they made XP.)
22:44:01 [davb]
Windows XP Home, Professional
22:44:01 [sbp]
heh
22:44:41 [AaronSw]
I wonder if i've been inflating the Linux Distro SROM: http://zork.net/~nick/srom/
22:44:53 [AaronSw]
for the record: debian rules, rocks
22:53:50 [xoot]
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hello
22:54:08 [redmonk]
xoot suit!
22:54:32 [xoot]
huh?
22:54:51 [sbp]
xoot xoot
22:55:21 [xoot]
.google redmonk
22:55:22 [xena]
redmonk: http://www.redmonk.net
22:55:50 [xoot]
heh
22:55:56 [xoot]
that your website, redmonk?
22:57:01 [sbp]
.google xoot
22:57:02 [xena]
xoot: http://www.arnegraphite.com/scoot_trickxoot.htm
22:57:57 [sbp]
Wang international? Oh my
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.google chumpster
22:58:11 [xena]
chumpster: http://forum.its-explosive.net/bb_profile.php?mode=view&user=48
22:58:11 [chumpster]
Not understood: http://forum.its-explosive.net/bb_profile.php?mode=view&user=48
22:58:15 [sbp]
heh
22:58:25 [sbp]
.google oierw
22:58:26 [xena]
oierw: http://bitzi.com/bitizen/oierw
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which in turn mentions AaronSw. Oh, the intertwingledness!
22:59:06 [xoot]
who's chumpster?
22:59:31 [sbp]
xena just told you
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heh
23:00:22 [xoot]
iMade my own channel :D
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it's a chump bot
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called #ixoot
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what does a chump bot do?
23:00:42 [sbp]
urge to scream rising...
23:00:51 [sbp]
it destroys OSX users
23:01:00 [xoot]
heh
23:01:01 [sbp]
oops, I mean it chumps URIs
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i.e. blogs them
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heh
23:01:15 [sbp]
to blog. A perfectly valid verb
23:01:24 [xoot]
chumpbot: http://osx.blogspot.com/
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oops
23:01:36 [sbp]
heh
23:01:41 [xoot]
chumpster: http://osx.blogspot.com/
23:01:41 [chumpster]
Not understood: http://osx.blogspot.com/
23:01:51 [xoot]
why is it not understood?
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because you're not using it properly
23:02:26 [xoot]
how do you use it properly?
23:02:34 [sbp]
try asking it for help
23:02:56 [xoot]
chumpster: help
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Post a URL by saying it on a line prefixed by '@ '
23:02:57 [chumpster]
To post an item without a URL, say BLURB:This is the title
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I will reply with a label, for example A
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You can then append comments by saying A::This is a comment
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To title a link, use a pipe as the first character of the comment
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Eg. A:|This is the title
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To see the last 5 links posted, say chumpster:view
23:03:03 [chumpster]
For more features, say chumpster:morehelp
23:03:24 [xoot]
heh
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@http://osx.blogspot.com/
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chuptster:morehelp
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chumpster:morehelp
23:03:59 [AaronSw]
please do that off line
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type /msg chumpster morehelp
23:04:05 [xoot]
ok, ok
23:05:29 [sbp]
Hmm... logster logs notices as if they were normal text
23:07:00 [Morbus]
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heh, heh.
23:07:35 [Morbus]
sbp, AaronSw, you around?
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redmonk?
23:07:44 [AaronSw]
yes
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yeah
23:07:46 [Morbus]
i just have to show you my latest queeration.
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[[[
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]]]
23:09:07 [AaronSw]
Sorry to torture everyone with that again, but for the logs:
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Leecharoo is an automated binary downloader that's designed to get files from the "hard" places, like cookie auth'd Yahoo! Groups, POP3 servers, and various other image hosting sites around the web. With support for unlimited accounts, and a wide-array of configuration options (like full archivals as opposed to just binary downloading), Leecharoo is a god-send for the leecharati. Heh. Leecharati... oh man! /me groans in pun-nishment.
23:09:22 [Morbus]
oh.
23:09:25 [sbp]
* sbp plays Martha My Dear
23:09:31 [Morbus]
dammit. sorry.
23:09:31 [Morbus]
stupid perl commenting.
23:10:15 [sbp]
Now, there's a problem with that
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you come up with a brilliant word, elevating yourself into the realm of genii, and thne you destroy it all by using "/me" in text. Pff
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23:11:24 [Morbus]
heh!
23:11:38 [Morbus]
ok. so, I shouldn't use /me then? delete that whole sentence? <G>
23:12:06 [sbp]
You could do a me: [sound of me groaning in punnishmesnt]
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except you'd spell it correctly
23:12:30 [sbp]
well, with the double-n still
23:12:39 [Morbus]
no dash?
23:12:46 [sbp]
nah
23:13:13 [Morbus]
?
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it's too butt-naked in-your-face obvious otherwise
23:13:23 [Morbus]
nah, i'll just take it out.
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for the logs: <Morbus> # for the leechirati. Heh, leechirati [sound of me groaning in punnishment]. #
23:20:21 [sbp]
Morbus, would you give a car a URI?
23:20:33 [Morbus]
sure.
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viz., do you think that cars can be identified with HTTP URIs?
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can be? sure.
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cars with URIs?
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crazy
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woo! two people
23:22:12 [Morbus]
hmm?
23:22:27 [sbp]
and once against
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s/once/one/
23:22:56 [AaronSw]
who against?
23:23:07 [AaronSw]
just because it's crazy (which I agree with) doesn't mean it's not possible
23:23:30 [Morbus]
yeah, i don't know why you'd want to do it, but hell.
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right
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(to Morbus
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)
23:38:07 [AaronSw]
It was funny, because one of the teachers I got to see today was the one who had us do projects on pioneers. I picked Tim Berners-Lee, of course. My teacher was excited to hear I was now working with him. :-)
23:38:50 [sbp]
heh, heh
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namedropper
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23:39:18 [AaronSw]
guilty as charged
23:39:52 [redmonk]
dissing who?
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[OLM]
23:40:09 [redmonk]
heh
23:42:26 [AaronSw]
* AaronSw hunts for some problems from "Lewis Carroll's Symbolic Logic"
23:43:25 [redmonk]
oh, screw the comments
23:43:37 [sbp]
yeah, I was thinking that
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i think his writing was as illogical as his work was logical - by extension
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his knowledge of logic made it easy to mess with the "rules" of everyday life, as he does constantly in Wonderland
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so that you always felt like there was some weird logic behind the nonsense
23:45:25 [AaronSw]
Ah, here we go
23:45:35 [sbp]
sbp has changed the topic to: "contrariwise and concomitantly, his writings were quintessentially Victorian" said sbp
23:45:35 [AaronSw]
(speaking of Carroll)
23:46:00 [sbp]
sbp has changed the topic to: "contrariwise and concomitantly, his writings were quintessentially Victorian," said sbp
23:46:15 [sbp]
ooh, a reply to me
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you're in for it now
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blargh, just a quick one
23:47:08 [AaronSw]
Well, you didn't say much to take issue with...
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1. When I work a logic example without grumbling, you may be sure it is one I understand.
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2. The arguments in these examples are not arranged in regular order like the ones I am used to.
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3. No easy examples make my head ache.
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4. I can't understand examples if the arguments are not arranged in regular order like the ones I am used to.
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5. I never grumble at an example unless it gives me a headache.
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Therefore: These examples are not easy.
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heh. I remained as neutral as I possibly could
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- Lewis Carroll, Symbolic Logic (New York: Dover, 1958)
23:48:16 [sbp]
heh, that's quite funny
23:48:30 [AaronSw]
ooh, here are a bunch: http://home.earthlink.net/~lfdean/carroll/puzzles/logic.html
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heh:-
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[[[
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No ducks waltz;
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]]]
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No officers ever decline to waltz;
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All my poultry are ducks.
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]]]
23:50:10 [sbp]
how many times have I told you: officers are not poultry!
23:50:10 [AaronSw]
I like the conclusion: Opium-eaters never wear white kid gloves.
23:50:17 [sbp]
what, I did ]]] it!
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* sbp kicks his connection
23:50:25 [AaronSw]
sorry, my connection must have burped
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* sbp pats his connection and kicks Aaron's