IRC log of swhack on 2002-04-05

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00:03:22 [Ash]
Yeah.
00:03:38 [Ash]
Anyway, a perl recordset is just a db file if that's what they're talking about.
00:03:41 [Ash]
It's like a hash stored on disk.
00:16:45 [AaronSw]
oh, ok. so it's a binary file?
00:16:52 [redmonk]
no
00:17:00 [redmonk]
i don't believe
00:17:11 [redmonk]
could be wrong though
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00:25:04 [Ash]
the perl db hash is binary, iirc
00:25:08 [Ash]
I try to avoid perl lately.. ;-)
00:25:20 [AaronSw]
me too
00:25:56 [Ash]
I used to be hax0ring perl all the time.
00:25:58 [Ash]
Heh.
00:27:19 [Ash]
Pretty profitable, but not very enjoyable.
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01:06:07 [sbp]
Gotta run
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02:15:39 [AaronSw]
comittees and specs suck
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02:56:28 [AaronSw]
<TriviaBot> USELESS TRIVIA: A POEM WRITTEN TO CELEBRATE A WEDDING IS CALLED A---------- .
02:56:34 [AaronSw]
EPITHALAMIUM
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03:12:04 [AaronSw]
ugh, people want to store stuff in xindice
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04:27:39 [AaronSw]
@ http://www.salon.com/comics/boll/2000/08/24/boll/
04:28:14 [chumpster]
A: http://www.salon.com/comics/boll/2000/08/24/boll/ from AaronSw
04:28:30 [AaronSw]
A:|Library System Terrorizes Publishing Industry
04:28:33 [AaronSw]
A::Hilarious!
04:28:46 [chumpster]
titled item A
04:29:04 [chumpster]
commented item A
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04:36:18 [davb]
AaronSw: how did you improve/modify chump?
04:36:31 [redmonk]
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04:36:36 [AaronSw]
have you seen the latest version of chump? it's got editable comments
04:36:49 [AaronSw]
i added autotitling, permalinks (also in the latest version) and the "@ " syntax
04:36:53 [AaronSw]
oh and the A::
04:36:55 [AaronSw]
syntax
04:37:42 [davb]
really. cool!
04:37:50 [davb]
i'll have to install that after i restore my server.
04:37:59 [AaronSw]
what happened to your server?
04:38:05 [davb]
hard drive failure.
04:38:08 [davb]
bad cpu
04:38:18 [davb]
which I think caused the hd problem.
04:38:46 [AaronSw]
ick!
04:38:51 [davb]
luckily i didn;t back it up
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04:39:08 [redmonk]
'lo all
04:39:18 [davb]
but I am restoreing data now, and the databases appear to have survived.
04:39:38 [AaronSw]
you mean you did back it up?
04:39:55 [davb]
well, I put the drive in another machine and got off everything I could.
04:40:00 [AaronSw]
ah
04:41:14 [davb]
tomorrow i install qmail and hopefully cure my email withdrawl
04:41:22 [redmonk]
heh
04:41:36 [AaronSw]
good luck
04:41:41 [davb]
thanks.
04:41:52 [redmonk]
ditto - good luck
04:42:12 [davb]
ditto, good idea, I think I'll buy one of those :)
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05:34:48 [AaronSw]
Stallman on the Beatles and Rock and Roll: " I just didn't like their music. I don't know enough about the vocabulary to describe that kind of difference in music. I just didn't like them at first, and then everyone else started liking them and I thought they were stupid. And it seemed like a fad, and I tend to despise people who let themselves get caught up in fads. I at one point tried to form a parody band called Tokyo Rose and the Japanese Beatles. Not t
05:34:48 [AaronSw]
but I just wanted to make fun of all those people who were crazy about the Beatles. "
05:35:05 [AaronSw]
- http://www.mgross.com/interviews/stallman1.html
05:37:11 [AaronSw]
Heh. 'They asked "What kind of roommate do you want?" and I said, "Well, I'd prefer an invisible, inaudible, intangible roommate."'
05:37:56 [AaronSw]
"For the first time in my life, I felt I had found a home at Harvard. Then they kicked me out after four years for passing too many classes."
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* AaronSw lies down and goes to sleep
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08:58:56 [sbp]
"and the Japanese Beatles. Not t"?
08:59:28 [sbp]
ah: "Not to actually play any music, I wasn't a musician, but I just wanted to make fun of all those people who were crazy about the Beatles."
08:59:53 [sbp]
Heh, mental note to disregard musical advice from Stallman :-)
09:00:22 [sbp]
Not that it's the sort of thing that you'd ever talk to him about if you had the chance
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09:18:38 [sbp]
Hmm... he's intereted in classical and (middle) eastern music
09:20:30 [sbp]
ah, he brought up the free vs. open software distinction
09:29:40 [sbp]
good quote: "It's okay to make money. It's not about money; it's about freedom"
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11:39:07 [sbp]
aha, REM's Pete Buck has been cleared of all charges
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13:31:09 [sbp]
* sbp writes to Bob Bemer
13:41:03 [sbp]
sbp has changed the topic to: "It's okay to make money. It's not about money; it's about freedom" - Richard Stallman
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14:03:31 [sbp]
Hey Morb
14:03:39 [Morbus]
hey.
14:07:14 [AaronSw]
.time bst
14:07:15 [xena]
Apr. 5, 2002 3:07 pm GMT+1
14:08:19 [sbp]
a long, sunny afternoon
14:08:34 [sbp]
Summer sucks, even though it's not quite there yet...
14:08:50 [AaronSw]
must. not. forget. telecon...
14:08:54 [sbp]
hay-fever, heat exhaustion, droughts
14:09:06 [sbp]
we should cancel summer. Move straight to fall
14:09:13 [sbp]
fall's not much better, though
14:09:14 [Morbus]
sounsd good to me.
14:09:15 [AaronSw]
ick! summer is supposed to be a time of fun and joy and beaches
14:09:24 [Morbus]
shuddup AaronSw, you're young yet.
14:09:29 [Morbus]
the older you get, the stickier your skin gets
14:09:34 [Morbus]
the more lose it feels around your bones.
14:09:36 [sbp]
yeah. stop being so exhuberant
14:09:42 [Morbus]
you start hating summer because moisture gets into your cracks.
14:09:45 [Morbus]
you sweat profusely.
14:09:48 [Morbus]
you mark my words.
14:09:49 [Morbus]
<G>
14:10:05 [AaronSw]
that's what air conditioning and pools are for
14:10:15 [Morbus]
i don't know how to swim.
14:10:23 [Morbus]
and the air conditioning is for the computers, not for me <G>
14:10:28 [AaronSw]
heh
14:10:30 [sbp]
heh
14:10:32 [AaronSw]
* AaronSw tries hard to wake up
14:10:47 [sbp]
* sbp chucks a bucket of pool water over Aaron
14:11:16 [AaronSw]
* AaronSw looks unfazed (sp?), gasps for breath
14:11:37 [sbp]
uhnphayzd
14:11:41 [sbp]
no, hang on...
14:12:01 [AaronSw]
btw, did you see the cool word triviabot found the other day...
14:12:11 [sbp]
noooo
14:12:25 [sbp]
heh. I'll bet that comes out like "mooooooo" in t2s
14:12:57 [AaronSw]
"new-woo"
14:13:06 [sbp]
what was it?
14:13:07 [AaronSw]
ah, the word is EPITHALAMIUM
14:13:39 [sbp]
oh: song or poem written to celebrate a marriage
14:13:42 [sbp]
neat
14:14:15 [Morbus]
i've got my mail down to abou 400-600 mails a day. thats good.
14:14:17 [Morbus]
tolerable.
14:14:56 [AaronSw]
you're crazy
14:15:07 [Morbus]
why?
14:15:25 [AaronSw]
* AaronSw attempts to regain enough mental capacity to answer
14:15:28 [AaronSw]
too much mail
14:15:34 [Morbus]
heh, heh.
14:15:37 [Morbus]
i was at 1000 a day.
14:15:42 [Morbus]
i went through two weeks of pruning.
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to get to where i am now.
14:15:48 [Morbus]
* Morbus stands proud.
14:16:01 [sbp]
* sbp pictures Morbus pruning away...
14:16:03 [AaronSw]
did you hear? there's this thing called the delete button...
14:16:24 [sbp]
whazit do?
14:16:46 [AaronSw]
* AaronSw wonders whether to do half the telecon at home and half in the car or all of it at school
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* sbp wonders if it matters either way
14:17:12 [sbp]
RDF Core?
14:17:17 [AaronSw]
yeah
14:17:48 [AaronSw]
Hm. I'm agenda item 8.
14:17:55 [Morbus]
heheeh.
14:17:57 [sbp]
you personally?
14:18:02 [AaronSw]
right after all the actions...
14:18:08 [Morbus]
"8: get AaronSw a haircut"
14:18:09 [AaronSw]
well, my draft (mime type reg.)
14:18:21 [sbp]
ah, well that's not you, then. you lied
14:18:44 [AaronSw]
it's called synechdoche... or egomania, i forget which
14:18:51 [sbp]
* sbp wonders if he can ever trust Aaron again
14:18:58 [sbp]
wow, you're really tired, aren't you?
14:19:11 [AaronSw]
yeah. stupid stallman book...
14:19:24 [Morbus]
you got that book already?
14:19:32 [Morbus]
was that one of the freebies you had ordered?
14:19:35 [sbp]
* sbp has managed to balance a bottle on top of a slide on top of a metal dish on top of a lynx can on top of a big bottle on top of a jar of chocolate spread
14:19:38 [AaronSw]
no, but it's available under the GNU FDL
14:19:49 [AaronSw]
so i just downloaded it
14:20:07 [sbp]
and the big bottle is upside down. Now that's an achievment
14:20:07 [AaronSw]
web browsers come in cans now?
14:21:00 [AaronSw]
not as big as pruning 500 emails
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14:33:12 [sbp]
this tower wobbles quite a bit, but it seems stable
14:40:51 [AaronSw]
*crash*
14:43:30 [Morbus]
* Morbus respawns.
14:43:32 [Morbus]
oh wait...
14:43:43 [Morbus]
sometimes i feel like a trout.
14:44:35 [sbp]
trouts generally don't chat on IRC
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that I know of
14:45:01 [AaronSw]
/trout Morbus
14:45:02 [AaronSw]
* AaronSw slaps Morbus around with a fresh trout
14:45:11 [Morbus]
whoo! i'm spawning!
14:45:12 [sbp]
* sbp had to dismantle the tower to get a drink
14:45:37 [Morbus]
* Morbus towers over the mantle where he set his drink.
14:45:49 [sbp]
don't dis me!
14:46:02 [sbp]
sorry, there was a syllable left over
14:46:07 [Morbus]
britney spears binary presets! britney spears binary presets! britney spears binary presets!
14:46:17 [sbp]
[giggle]
14:47:31 [sbp]
I'd put that in the topic, but do we really want swhack to become a result of odd Britney searches?
14:47:56 [AaronSw]
no
14:48:29 [VoteBot]
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14:48:36 [sbp]
sorry, you'll have to revote
14:48:44 [AaronSw]
no
14:48:50 [VoteBot]
-1 from AaronSw
14:49:08 [sbp]
no
14:49:13 [VoteBot]
-1 from sbp
14:49:30 [sbp]
come on Morbus, join in the crazy democratic voting frenzy!
14:49:35 [sbp]
oh, the craziness!
14:50:00 [Morbus]
yeah, but sbp, it fits.
14:50:05 [Morbus]
swhack. word hack.
14:50:06 [sbp]
wow, I thought you'd give it a good old kicking
14:50:11 [Morbus]
binary presets is an anagram.
14:50:14 [AaronSw]
yes
14:50:15 [AaronSw]
no
14:50:16 [AaronSw]
no
14:50:21 [AaronSw]
-2
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14:50:24 [AaronSw]
+0
14:50:25 [sbp]
argh
14:50:39 [AaronSw]
oops, did i do that?
14:50:40 [Morbus]
argh?
14:50:44 [Morbus]
sigh. you did it again.
14:50:48 [sbp]
* sbp reprograms
14:50:52 [Morbus]
you're not a girl, but not yet a woman.
14:51:04 [AaronSw]
stop the thinly-veiled britney refs!
14:51:13 [Morbus]
thinly-veiled? vma 2002.
14:51:21 [Morbus]
i'm a slave to her love.
14:52:53 [AaronSw]
argh, i wish retrospect would work
14:53:46 [AaronSw]
that was fast programming work on VoteBot... or have you been planning it all this time?
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phew
14:57:26 [sbp]
no
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14:57:29 [sbp]
bugger!
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no
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+1 from sbp
15:00:09 [sbp]
-1 you dork
15:00:09 [VoteBot]
+1 from sbp (a revote)
15:00:13 [AaronSw]
lol
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heh
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no
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-1 from sbp (a revote)
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right
15:01:20 [AaronSw]
+0
15:01:24 [AaronSw]
no
15:01:25 [VoteBot]
-1 from AaronSw
15:01:31 [sbp]
0 or abstain, AFAIK
15:01:42 [AaronSw]
what about +0 and -0?
15:01:54 [sbp]
doesn't reconize them
15:02:13 [sbp]
it *should* call the voter a loser if it comes across them, but it's on the TODO list
15:02:16 [sbp]
VoteBot, total?
15:02:17 [VoteBot]
total: -2
15:02:40 [sbp]
* sbp marvels at his speedy programming job
15:03:01 [sbp]
the first occurance of VoteBot was actually just me. I didn't have a vote bot handy
15:03:12 [sbp]
so when I was "fixing" it, I was actually creating it :-)
15:03:35 [AaronSw]
i figured
15:04:04 [sbp]
ircASync is marvellous
15:04:19 [AaronSw]
yep. need to make Moobotthing in it..
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<telecon>
15:04:34 [sbp]
c'ya
15:05:42 [sbp]
Hmm... it tooks me 9:52, which isn't bad considering that my connection also borked, etc.
15:05:48 [sbp]
s/tooks/took/
15:07:18 [sbp]
sbp: bots built whilst-u-wait
15:07:47 [sbp]
Hey votebot
15:07:47 [VoteBot]
hi, sbp
15:08:27 [Morbus]
Hi votebot
15:08:27 [VoteBot]
hi, Morb\x75s
15:08:32 [Morbus]
dude, fix that fucking bug <G>
15:08:35 [sbp]
heh, heh
15:08:47 [sbp]
it's not a bug: it thinks that CharBot is around
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actually, I just rewired the guts of CharBot...
15:09:01 [Morbus]
"bots built whilst you wait... unless you use the letter U. then you suck"
15:09:14 [sbp]
the bug is in your nickname :-)
15:09:20 [Morbus]
uh huh...
15:09:32 [Morbus]
http://www.crimeweek.com/cidu.html
15:10:36 [sbp]
heh!
15:11:38 [Morbus]
i love this site.
15:11:45 [Morbus]
man, i love the boondocks though.
15:11:48 [Morbus]
i wish i didn't have crap to do.
15:11:52 [Morbus]
there's so much stuff i enjoy reading.
15:17:25 [Morbus]
argh.
15:17:33 [Morbus]
what's the new winerlog address?
15:17:38 [Morbus]
winerlog.weblogger is borked
15:20:21 [Morbus]
wow!
15:20:27 [Morbus]
the "offset" tag in MT 2.0 rocks.
15:20:37 [Morbus]
er, attr rather
15:35:42 [Morbus]
go here: http://threering.net:3/
15:39:20 [Morbus]
kickass!
15:39:25 [Morbus]
farscape is back on tonight. whOoOo!
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15:39:54 [neo85]
hey
15:40:02 [Morbus]
hey there ny user.
15:40:14 [neo85]
anyone know a game called nexustk?
15:40:24 [sbp]
.google nexustk
15:40:25 [xena]
nexustk: http://www.nexustk.com
15:40:33 [sbp]
we do now
15:40:41 [AaronSw]
heh, it was wrong: I am 96% sure that you are from Deerfield, Illinois, United States (Lat: 42 / Long: -87).
15:40:42 [neo85]
xena
15:40:45 [neo85]
you play it?
15:40:45 [Morbus]
why do you ask?
15:40:54 [Morbus]
neo85, review it for gamegrene.com
15:40:56 [Morbus]
that site rocks.
15:41:09 [neo85]
i want to hack the game =P
15:41:18 [Morbus]
aj.
15:41:23 [Morbus]
have you hacked webbased games before?
15:41:27 [neo85]
nope
15:41:31 [Morbus]
oh. well, nevermind.
15:41:33 [neo85]
i know its tough
15:41:44 [Morbus]
do you know the difference between GET and POST?
15:41:56 [neo85]
im not a hacker
15:42:03 [neo85]
was hoping someone would tell me how to do it
15:42:18 [neo85]
or maybe have a script for it or something
15:42:44 [neo85]
Xena
15:42:48 [neo85]
do you play it?
15:42:59 [Morbus]
neo85, you need to ask Xena with a "google" prefix.
15:43:11 [neo85]
oh ok
15:43:15 [Morbus]
he's out to lunch, so using google: will sms a message off to him
15:43:26 [neo85]
so how i do it
15:43:35 [Morbus]
look at sbp's thing above.
15:43:41 [neo85]
.google do you play nexustk?
15:43:42 [xena]
do you play nexustk: http://www.nexustk.com/html/support/tk_support_starting.html
15:43:54 [neo85]
like that?
15:43:59 [sbp]
right
15:44:14 [neo85]
so morb have you hacked webbased games?
15:44:31 [sbp]
BTW, this channel is publically logged to the Web (so we can find out what we were doing a month ago and so forth. Oh, and to take notes)
15:44:55 [Morbus]
neo: to make sure things aren't logged, talk directly to logster.
15:44:57 [Morbus]
like:
15:45:05 [Morbus]
logster, don't save this text
15:45:05 [Morbus]
I'm logging. I don't understand 'don't save this text', Morbus. Try /msg logster help
15:45:13 [Morbus]
when he doesn't understand, he doesn't log.
15:45:32 [neo85]
i say i logster than whatever i want to sat?
15:45:33 [neo85]
say*?
15:45:42 [Morbus]
right. and it won't be logged. just like I did.
15:45:59 [neo85]
logster, have you hacked webbased games?
15:48:42 [logster]
I'm logging. I found 3 answers for 'have you hacked webbased games'
15:48:43 [logster]
0) 2002-04-05 15:45:59 <neo85> logster, have you hacked webbased games?
15:48:44 [logster]
1) 2002-04-05 15:44:14 <neo85> so morb have you hacked webbased games?
15:48:45 [logster]
2) 2002-04-05 15:41:23 <Morbus> have you hacked webbased games before?
15:49:01 [neo85]
like that?
15:49:01 [sbp]
yeah, but don't ask it to grep anything, because we'll be here all night
15:49:01 [Morbus]
right. sometimes he lags in responses, though. just rest assured.
15:49:01 [neo85]
ok
15:49:01 [neo85]
hop a vop e wop e bop bop a sop e dop gop a mop e?
15:49:01 [sbp]
keyboard problem?
15:49:01 [neo85]
op language
15:49:01 [sbp]
oh. Well, I'm not an op
15:49:01 [neo85]
neither am i
15:49:01 [neo85]
=p
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15:49:01 [neo85]
so morb can u asnwer my question?
15:49:28 [Ash]
hey xena, morbus, asw, et al
15:49:43 [neo85]
guess not
15:49:57 [sbp]
hey there
15:50:07 [sbp]
what was your question?
15:50:43 [neo85]
about nexus
15:50:53 [sbp]
have web based game?
15:50:54 [neo85]
remember what i askee=d morb
15:50:58 [Morbus]
you should figure out if they're using GETs or POSTs.
15:51:04 [neo85]
how do i do that?
15:51:05 [Ash]
what's up xena
15:51:35 [sbp]
xena's out to lunch, according to Morbus
15:51:44 [Morbus]
yeah, you gotta do the sms thing.
15:51:53 [Morbus]
i wonder where he's eating.
15:52:01 [Morbus]
.google what are you having fun lunch?
15:52:03 [xena]
what are you having fun lunch: http://www.akbkhome.com/Photos
15:52:14 [Morbus]
fun lunch? sheesh, i can't spell.
15:52:20 [Ash]
fun lunch?
15:52:21 [Ash]
lol!
15:52:33 [neo85]
morb how i figure if they using Post or Gets/
15:52:45 [Morbus]
neo85, probably the easiest way is to email the admins.
15:52:46 [sbp]
he's probably off cajoling walloper
15:52:50 [Morbus]
just social engineer em.
15:52:58 [Ash]
neo85: just add :STATUS to the end of the url
15:53:11 [Morbus]
posts and gets are innocent things. its like asking for a pencil. they should tell you no problem.
15:53:12 [Ash]
like this: http://www.apache.com:STATUS
15:55:04 [neo85]
doesnt work ash
15:55:37 [Ash]
logster: it doesn't work because they have disabled it for security purposes, neo :(
15:55:38 [sbp]
Ash: he probably has to reroute his IP packets through a trandectal-box first
15:55:52 [Ash]
logster: Try another site, or try using an anonymizer like safeweb.com
15:56:14 [Ash]
logster: sbp: I don't know if that would work in this case..
15:56:15 [neo85]
you guys really know your stuff lol
15:56:43 [sbp]
well, we're experts. Y'know: the swhack cabal
15:57:10 [neo85]
so i just email the admins and find out if they using get or post
15:57:16 [sbp]
you're lucky, we usually charge a lot of money for consultation...
15:57:43 [Morbus]
that would work, neo. if they don't tell you, there's something funny about that.
15:57:58 [neo85]
what exactly is gets and posts?
15:58:40 [Ash]
gets and posts are how your web browser talks to a website
15:58:54 [neo85]
oh i see
15:58:54 [Ash]
it gets the posts from the web server
15:59:15 [Ash]
so your browser says: POST GET HTTP://APACHE.COM/INDEX.HTMAL
15:59:24 [neo85]
i see
15:59:28 [sbp]
they're HTTP methods, to be precise
15:59:30 [Ash]
but you just see the page come up
15:59:36 [Ash]
it can also do grabs
15:59:43 [Ash]
if you are going to save the page
15:59:51 [Morbus]
right.
15:59:52 [Ash]
GRABS HTTP://APACHE.COM/INDEX.HTMAL
15:59:59 [neo85]
i see
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16:00:06 [Ash]
You can use those commands in the 'location bar' in some web browsers
16:00:18 [sbp]
you have: GET, POST, GRABS, DELETE, and RESPAWN
16:00:30 [Ash]
So if you typed 'GRABS HTTP://WWW.HOTMAIL.COM/INDEX.HTMAL' into your location bar it would download the main page to your hard drive
16:00:49 [Ash]
be sure you have the HTMAL extension otherwise it won't work
16:01:00 [Ash]
you get that by typing 'LOAD HTMAL' into a command shell
16:01:05 [Morbus]
right. you can try stuff like:
16:01:06 [Ash]
dos shell
16:01:18 [Morbus]
GRABS HTTP://WWW.HOTMAIL.COM/INDEX.HTMAL?source-code
16:01:20 [neo85]
ok
16:01:20 [Morbus]
or
16:01:27 [Morbus]
GRABS HTTP://WWW.HOTMAIL.COM/INDEX.HTMAL?admin-account
16:02:05 [Ash]
you might want to try using grabs on the site you're trying to hack with the admin-account flag at the end
16:02:13 [Ash]
they might have left it so it's not password protected
16:03:02 [neo85]
ITS NOT A SITE
16:03:08 [neo85]
ITS A ONLINE GAME
16:03:10 [Ash]
what, you said it was a site
16:03:25 [Morbus]
well, online games run on sites.
16:03:32 [neo85]
OK
16:03:34 [Morbus]
so if you get into the site, then you're doing really well.
16:03:48 [Morbus]
you can pretty much do anything - mess with your account, mess with the admin accounts.
16:03:50 [Morbus]
etc.
16:04:03 [Ash]
i got a free account on everquest by hacking their site
16:04:07 [sbp]
unless it's one of these new X3SD games: shiteless!
16:04:09 [sbp]
er... siteless
16:04:17 [Morbus]
you did, Ash?! holy crap, hook me up.
16:04:22 [neo85]
HOW CAN I GET INTO A COMMAND SHELL TO GET THE HTMAL
16:04:22 [Ash]
yeah
16:04:28 [Morbus]
ever since they found my other account. i've been having to pay.
16:04:30 [Morbus]
it sucks.
16:04:41 [Ash]
neo85: pick start->run, then type 'command.com'
16:04:43 [sbp]
neo: what OS do you run? No, let me guess, Windows...
16:04:50 [neo85]
YEAH
16:05:16 [sbp]
O.K., just follow Ash. He's the pro.
16:05:46 [Ash]
/msg morbus you have to use grabs, do GRABS HTTP://WWW.EVERQUEST-ADMIN.COM/INDEX.HTMAL?ROOT-USER/ACCOUNTS then you can edit your account
16:05:51 [Ash]
oops
16:06:12 [Morbus]
uh...
16:06:18 [Morbus]
* Morbus whistles innocently.
16:06:22 [neo85]
DO I NEED TO GO TO A SPECIFIC FOLDER TO LOAD THE HTMAL?
16:06:40 [Ash]
Morbus can you make sure logster doesn't log that
16:06:50 [Ash]
I've already gotten in trouble with the eq people a bunch of times
16:06:52 [sbp]
does it say "C:\WINDOWS\Desktop"?
16:06:59 [neo85]
YEAH
16:07:13 [Morbus]
no problem.
16:07:36 [Ash]
neo85: you may need to clear out the old HTMAL files first with DELTREE C:\ /y
16:08:09 [Ash]
Anyway, then type 'LOAD HTMAL'
16:09:11 [Ash]
neo85: Did that work?
16:09:29 [neo85]
I PUT IN /Y?
16:09:35 [Ash]
Yes.
16:10:01 [neo85]
THATS ALL?
16:10:08 [Ash]
no, you have to have the other part
16:10:17 [Ash]
DELTREE C:\ /Y
16:10:21 [Ash]
it clears out the old HTMAL trees
16:10:23 [neo85]
OH OK
16:10:27 [Ash]
they're .TREE files
16:10:58 [neo85]
IT SAYS DELETE SUHDLOG.DAT
16:11:36 [neo85]
DETLOG.TXT?
16:11:47 [Ash]
yeah, just delete all the trees
16:13:11 [neo85]
DIDNT SEE ANY .TREE FILES
16:14:23 [Ash]
it's okay, the ones deltree finds are tree files
16:14:35 [Ash]
and your caps lock is stuck
16:14:50 [neo85]
sorry
16:14:56 [sbp]
and you don't seem to have an apostrophe key
16:15:48 [neo85]
i dont think the files deltre found were the ones
16:16:03 [neo85]
cause it said delete win98 and subdirectories
16:16:10 [Ash]
Yup, that's right
16:16:19 [Ash]
the win98 folder holds only tree files
16:16:34 [neo85]
ok
16:17:38 [neo85]
ok done
16:18:49 [Morbus]
ash, do you remember if a reboot is required?
16:18:57 [Morbus]
i keep forgetting, and all my notes are on my other machine.
16:19:24 [Ash]
Yeah, you might have to reboot neo85
16:19:32 [Ash]
if 'LOAD HTMAL' doesn't work, reboot
16:19:55 [neo85]
deleting win98 files would not mess up the win98 os right?
16:19:58 [Ash]
nope
16:20:01 [neo85]
ok
16:20:05 [Ash]
it just deletes the tree files
16:21:34 [sbp]
well, I'm going to lunch: I'll try to track down xena
16:21:37 [sbp]
c'ya
16:21:44 [Ash]
ok sbp
16:21:48 [Ash]
tell her hi for me
16:26:43 [Morbus]
neo, having any luck with the LOAD command?
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16:45:18 [Morbus]
whoo hoo!
16:45:51 [Morbus]
I got it working.
16:45:52 [Morbus]
cool.
16:46:03 [Morbus]
stupid game bot thing.
16:46:07 [Morbus]
kinda like trivia, only weirder.
16:46:41 [Ash]
Cool.
16:46:48 [Ash]
You should check out 'chaosbot'
16:46:50 [Ash]
I love chaos!
16:46:58 [Morbus]
do you ever read chaos comics?
16:47:00 [Ash]
I think there's a chaosbot over on UnderNet.
16:47:01 [Ash]
Nope
16:47:04 [Ash]
good?
16:47:17 [Morbus]
they're mostly boob comics, but there are decent ones, yeah.
16:47:24 [Ash]
cool
16:49:45 [sbp]
heh, neo seems to have deleted an essential file
16:53:50 [Ash]
heh heh
16:53:56 [Ash]
* Ash laughs evilly
16:53:59 [Ash]
*muahahahah*
16:56:54 [sbp]
* sbp writes up an I-D for the RESPAWN HTTP method
16:57:24 [Morbus]
hehehe
16:57:39 [Morbus]
"all clients must RESPAWN for each *splurtch* request they receive"
16:58:33 [sbp]
heh, heh
16:58:51 [sbp]
it's a shame that April fool's day just went. Perhaps for next year
17:00:21 [Ash]
hehe
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17:26:21 [AaronSw]
woo, 13 actions down.
17:26:34 [AaronSw]
that's not enough, though...
17:26:41 [AaronSw]
i'll have to try better next time.
17:26:51 [AaronSw]
but in my defense i only had half the meeting
17:26:52 [sbp]
heh
17:27:15 [AaronSw]
so now i have to submit this internet draft thingy
17:27:21 [AaronSw]
i guess i should run spellceck first
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17:28:13 [Ash]
Ash has changed the topic to: "It's okay to make money. It's not about money; it's about freedom" - Richard Stallman || welcome to #evil
17:28:37 [AaronSw]
is obsoleted a word?
17:28:39 [AaronSw]
.spell obsoleted
17:28:40 [xena]
potential spellings for obsoleted are: obsoleted, obsoletes, obsolesced, obsolete, absoluter, absolutized, obsolesces, absolutest, absolutes, absolutize
17:28:48 [sbp]
yep
17:29:06 [Morbus]
huh.
17:29:10 [AaronSw]
hm, silly dictionary doesn't even have publically in it
17:29:11 [Morbus]
i've always used obsolesched.
17:29:16 [AaronSw]
or brickley
17:29:17 [Morbus]
yeah, cos its spelled wrong
17:29:22 [Morbus]
publicly
17:29:28 [sbp]
heh, heh
17:29:29 [AaronSw]
it can be spelled either way
17:29:47 [Morbus]
uh huh.
17:29:50 [AaronSw]
note that it does have Swartz
17:29:52 [AaronSw]
.spell publically
17:29:53 [xena]
potential spellings for publically are: publically, publicly, publicans, publican, publicness, publica, publicae, publication, publishable, publishers
17:30:01 [sbp]
publicly is the usual spelling
17:30:05 [Morbus]
oooOh, i see.
17:30:06 [Morbus]
so.
17:30:09 [Morbus]
.spell dictionery
17:30:10 [xena]
potential spellings for dictionery are: dictionary, dictionaries, dictionally, dictional, dicoumarin, dishonorer, disharmony, discounter, diachronies, dishonored
17:30:19 [Morbus]
i guess i can use dictionery in normal speech then too?
17:30:32 [Morbus]
oh.
17:30:33 [Morbus]
nevermind.
17:30:35 [Morbus]
missed it.
17:30:35 [Morbus]
sigh.
17:30:37 [sbp]
"Publicly is the usual spelling; publically does occur, but rarely in Edited English." - http://www.bartleby.com/68/73/4873.html
17:30:47 [Morbus]
anytime i've ever tried to use publically, its always been corected.
17:31:07 [sbp]
we should do a "publically" drive
17:31:21 [Morbus]
is the opposite of publically hiddenfoe?
17:31:41 [Morbus]
er, privatefoe rather
17:31:47 [Morbus]
that makes more sense.
17:32:24 [Morbus]
i wonder if neo85 ever got into that server.
17:32:28 [Morbus]
he left kinda abruptly.
17:32:51 [sbp]
he's probably waiting for a reply on the GET/POST question
17:33:59 [AaronSw]
I think i just copied-and-pasted publically from the i-d form text
17:34:16 [AaronSw]
oh, "The mailing list is publically archived"
17:34:35 [sbp]
.google "The mailing list is publically archived"
17:34:36 [xena]
"The mailing list is publically archived": http://lists.infoanarchy.org/pipermail/p2pj/2001-March/000060.html
17:34:45 [sbp]
ah, xena's back from lunch
17:34:57 [sbp]
or did I just SMS him/her? :-)
17:35:03 [Morbus]
heh, heh
17:35:10 [Morbus]
i don't think he knew what sms meant.
17:35:14 [sbp]
hey, Sunir Shah. I know that guy
17:35:18 [sbp]
probably not
17:35:54 [Morbus]
off to lunch
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17:49:25 [sbp]
rm!
17:49:30 [redmonk]
sbp!
17:52:02 [redmonk]
no freakin way
17:52:08 [redmonk]
that is so awesome
17:52:16 [redmonk]
that kids gonna need therapy
17:52:18 [sbp]
way!
17:52:24 [sbp]
heh, heh
17:52:30 [Ash]
ehehehe
17:52:33 [Ash]
* Ash grins
17:52:44 [sbp]
* sbp ^5's Ash
17:52:53 [Ash]
^5
17:53:07 [sbp]
hackers 1, crackers 0
17:53:13 [Ash]
w00t
17:53:26 [Ash]
Ash has changed the topic to: "It's okay to make money. It's not about money; it's about freedom" - Richard Stallman || <sbp> hackers 1, crackers 0
17:53:30 [sbp]
:-)
17:55:28 [sbp]
argh, I really want to do "/mode #swhack +u"
17:56:30 [redmonk]
man
17:56:34 [redmonk]
that's too funny
17:56:43 [redmonk]
what are channel modes in irc?
17:56:55 [redmonk]
* redmonk shows his irc newbieness
17:57:13 [sbp]
do you mean what are the available modes, or what are modes in general?
17:57:36 [redmonk]
i general
17:57:38 [sbp]
in general, they control the attributes of the channel. For example, +n on this channel means that no one can send external messages
17:57:43 [redmonk]
like why it +u good? ;-)
17:57:55 [sbp]
+u doesn't exist as a mode on this server
17:58:12 [sbp]
however, it would be particularly funny given that this channel currently has a mode of +gn
17:58:20 [sbp]
especially with the Stallman topic :-)
17:58:42 [redmonk]
ah ;-)
17:58:44 [redmonk]
+gnu
17:58:46 [redmonk]
got it
17:58:59 [redmonk]
* redmonk is still on cup of coffe #1
17:59:04 [sbp]
:-)
17:59:43 [sbp]
Gotta run
17:59:47 [redmonk]
cya
18:02:52 [AaronSw]
+u?
18:02:52 [AaronSw]
</cableModem>
18:02:54 [AaronSw]
<cableModem>
18:03:09 [redmonk]
so the channel mode would then be
18:03:11 [redmonk]
+gnu
18:03:14 [redmonk]
;-)
18:04:23 [AaronSw]
wow, Robin Williams uses OmniWeb on OS X
18:04:38 [redmonk]
uri?
18:04:47 [AaronSw]
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/stores/detail/-/books/0201748673/reader/1/
18:05:13 [redmonk]
heh
18:05:28 [redmonk]
Robin "not-as-in-Mork" Williams
18:06:29 [AaronSw]
heh
18:06:47 [AaronSw]
I like how that book is by Dave Rohr and David Rohr
18:10:20 [Ash]
brb
18:19:04 [Morbus]
man, i feel sick now.
18:21:47 [Morbus]
jeez.
18:21:55 [Morbus]
you know, we help out neo and then he doesn't even come back and thank us
18:22:43 [Morbus]
"Rand al'Thor: What the, ehh, what is this, anyone wanna write to me and explain, Master_rand@hotmail.com PLS it looks interesteng, since I do not understand anything :)"
18:22:44 [Morbus]
heh, heh.
18:22:51 [Morbus]
on that threering page
18:24:35 [AaronSw]
hey Morbus, do you know if anyone has MovableType skins?
18:25:00 [Morbus]
i haven't heard of any.
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18:43:37 [AaronSw]
google globs would be cool
18:43:48 [Ash]
GOOGLE GLOBS
18:43:54 [Ash]
http://globs.google.com/
18:44:06 [AaronSw]
oontz.google.com
18:44:18 [AaronSw]
GOOGLE MUSIC: OOONTZ OONTZ OONTZ
18:44:31 [Morbus]
oingo boingo?
18:46:02 [AaronSw]
it'd suck if you could get email poisoning
18:47:19 [Ash]
* Ash sends AaronSw some poisoned email
18:49:22 [Morbus]
hmm.
18:49:26 [Morbus]
i wonder...
18:49:31 [Morbus]
like with palms and touch screens.
18:49:42 [Morbus]
i wonder if you could tweak the display to deliver a shock
18:52:14 [redmonk]
hehe
18:53:09 [redmonk]
http://www.truerwords.net/1884
18:53:22 [redmonk]
"Oh brother. Yep, there it is in the Notification panel of the prefs window: a new pref that wasn't there yesterday, called, "Deliver 2kV Electric Shock." (In other words, every time Mailsmith downloads new mail today, it's supposedly setting my hair on end... or on fire.)"
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18:57:52 [AaronSw]
ooh: http://www.barebones.com/press/releases/2002/04.01-personalanalogdevice.html
19:00:32 [Morbus]
heh, heh
19:07:14 [Morbus]
mailsmith doesn't look bad becuase its a bbedit product.
19:07:23 [Morbus]
but it too has a single db storage system.
19:07:25 [Morbus]
it drives me nuts.
19:07:44 [AaronSw]
weird:
19:07:48 [AaronSw]
.google programming
19:07:49 [xena]
programming: http://www.perl.com
19:08:02 [AaronSw]
and java is #3
19:08:47 [Morbus]
.google anti-programming
19:08:48 [xena]
anti-programming: http://www.emonline.com/shales/123101shales.html
19:08:58 [Morbus]
.google anti programming
19:09:00 [xena]
anti programming: http://dmoz.org/Computers/Programming/Methodologies/Patterns_and_Anti-Patterns
19:09:15 [Morbus]
ooh.
19:09:16 [Morbus]
The Amsterdam Collection of Patterns in User Interface Design - A XML based collection of user centered patterns in user interface design. Includes background information and links to other collections.
19:09:41 [Morbus]
um.
19:09:45 [Morbus]
that redirects to http://www.welie.com/patterns/
19:10:07 [Morbus]
but no xml.
19:10:13 [Morbus]
unless they consider xhtml close enough
19:10:23 [Morbus]
funnily enough, i had this site bookmarked already.
19:11:22 [Morbus]
What is the main ingredient in [7]Chilli Con Carne?
19:11:22 [Morbus]
A) Beef B) Vodka C) Chocolate
19:11:22 [Morbus]
19:11:26 [Morbus]
what's the answer to that?
19:11:28 [Morbus]
beef?
19:12:01 [AaronSw]
carne is meat
19:12:15 [Morbus]
oh. well, this was obvious too.
19:12:20 [Morbus]
What is the main ingredient in [7]Chilli Con Carne?
19:12:20 [Morbus]
A) Beef B) Vodka C) Chocolate
19:12:20 [Morbus]
19:12:20 [Morbus]
Send your answer (A, B, or C) to [8]moo@apacheweek.com to reach us
19:12:20 [Morbus]
no later than 16th April 2002. We do read all the entries, so if
19:12:24 [Morbus]
argh.
19:18:54 [AaronSw]
heh, I like Seth's .sig:
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19:18:56 [AaronSw]
"If you don't want unicorns to exist,
19:18:56 [AaronSw]
then don't talk about them."
19:18:56 [AaronSw]
Pat Hayes ~ 2002
19:20:02 [Morbus]
pff.
19:20:03 [Morbus]
"This error indicates that you either do not have a sound card or it is functioning incorrectly. If you do not have a sound card, you must install one to play this file. If you do have a sound card, refer to its documentation to troubleshoot the problem."
19:20:07 [Morbus]
now, that's just an innane.
19:20:09 [Morbus]
its a movie file.
19:20:18 [Morbus]
i want to see the video. i don't care about the audiuo.
19:20:27 [Morbus]
stupid wmp.
19:23:48 [AaronSw]
Hm. My nose is bleeding.
19:24:23 [Morbus]
plug it.
19:24:27 [redmonk]
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19:24:56 [redmonk]
ugh
19:25:18 [redmonk]
*something* on my os x box has the power to brring the whole thing to a grinding halt
19:25:25 [redmonk]
and it ain't IE
19:25:34 [Morbus]
ppp?
19:25:35 [Morbus]
seti?
19:26:09 [davb]
large cat sitting in front of the power supply fan?
19:26:30 [redmonk]
nope
19:26:42 [Morbus]
virtual pc?
19:26:44 [redmonk]
i'm on ethernet, not running seti
19:26:46 [redmonk]
nope
19:26:46 [Morbus]
stickies? <G>
19:26:54 [redmonk]
what happens is this:
19:26:56 [redmonk]
lol
19:27:21 [Morbus]
oh.
19:27:31 [redmonk]
suddenyl the machine becomes unresponsive, sometimes the cursor tracks slowly,m but something is starving the cpu
19:27:35 [Morbus]
maybe your raucous laughter freezes it in its tracks.
19:27:43 [AaronSw]
AOL's AIM client?
19:27:44 [Morbus]
so leave top running in the background
19:27:49 [AaronSw]
Mail.app does that some time
19:27:56 [AaronSw]
s/top/iProcess Viewer/
19:28:02 [redmonk]
that will go for a few seconds (5-10)
19:28:17 [redmonk]
then it will let up for another 5-10
19:28:26 [redmonk]
then back to frozen, ad infinitum
19:28:35 [redmonk]
hard reboot is the only fix
19:28:41 [Morbus]
pff. i never use process viewer <G>
19:28:46 [redmonk]
i've even tried to force-quit stuff
19:28:52 [Morbus]
is classic running?
19:28:57 [redmonk]
(takes fuh-ever)
19:28:58 [redmonk]
nope
19:29:07 [redmonk]
to no avail
19:29:10 [redmonk]
it's weird
19:29:19 [Morbus]
oh, generic btw, there's an april security patch out in swupdate
19:29:32 [redmonk]
yeah
19:30:08 [redmonk]
the funniest side effect is that itunes will only get a slice every 5 or 10 seconds, so my music goes in and out
19:30:17 [redmonk]
that's the first clue - when the music dies
19:30:30 [Morbus]
hmm.
19:30:38 [Morbus]
you knwo that happens to me when i have itunes running too.
19:30:38 [redmonk]
"the day the music died..."
19:30:40 [redmonk]
heh
19:30:55 [redmonk]
i've had this happen when itunes was not running
19:30:59 [redmonk]
but not as often, true
19:31:06 [Morbus]
i'll be doing something, and that program will stop functioning. then the music will stop in about five seconds, then I get spod until i reboot
19:31:10 [Morbus]
hardboot
19:31:15 [redmonk]
yeah
19:31:25 [redmonk]
spod?
19:31:30 [Morbus]
that happens MOST of the time to me when I'm downloading/uploading enough to saturate my connection (56k0
19:31:33 [Morbus]
56k, rather.
19:31:37 [Morbus]
spinning pizza of death
19:31:37 [redmonk]
heh
19:31:40 [redmonk]
ah
19:31:42 [redmonk]
;-)
19:31:44 [Morbus]
:)
19:32:24 [redmonk]
i don't even get spod
19:32:29 [redmonk]
the cursor stays the same
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(normal)
19:33:42 [AaronSw]
you should run process viewer
19:33:48 [Morbus]
yup.
19:33:52 [Morbus]
and maybe tcpdump too.
19:33:58 [AaronSw]
i know that on my dad's iBook he has some weird hard drive access iMail does that locks up the system
19:34:04 [redmonk]
ggot top running now
19:34:15 [Morbus]
i don't use Mail. does anyone in here?
19:34:20 [redmonk]
i do
19:34:20 [Morbus]
it just doesn't feel right to me.
19:34:25 [Morbus]
how do you feel about it?
19:34:25 [redmonk]
i like it
19:34:29 [redmonk]
i like ti
19:34:29 [Morbus]
have you tried combining it with procmail?
19:34:35 [redmonk]
no time
19:34:35 [Morbus]
what were you using before?
19:34:44 [redmonk]
OE
19:34:44 [Morbus]
do you use filters? how many emails do you get daily? storeD?
19:34:47 [AaronSw]
oh, so it might be that's what's causing the problem
19:35:13 [Morbus]
is it easy to stop HTML? i just want a plain old monospace font, not antiA.
19:35:30 [redmonk]
i'm on wo-dev, wo-admin, and a bunch of other lists
19:35:37 [redmonk]
prolly get a couple hundred emails a day
19:35:40 [redmonk]
not too bad
19:35:42 [Morbus]
filters?
19:35:45 [Morbus]
how are the filters?
19:35:45 [redmonk]
yeah
19:35:48 [redmonk]
so so
19:35:57 [Morbus]
unlimited number of conditions per filter, or restricted?
19:35:57 [redmonk]
wish they had grep
19:36:01 [redmonk]
hm.
19:36:04 [redmonk]
* redmonk checks
19:36:19 [AaronSw]
Yeah, Mail rocks.
19:36:29 [Morbus]
do you still use entourage AaronSw?
19:36:34 [AaronSw]
yep
19:36:37 [Morbus]
maybe i should give mail another look.
19:36:49 [Morbus]
i like the messages opening in their own window though, not in a pane.
19:37:00 [Morbus]
i use eudora and have the preview panes turned off.
19:37:01 [AaronSw]
you can do that, i'm pretty sure
19:37:10 [redmonk]
ugh. 1 - based only on [header] [contains|starts|ends] etc
19:37:10 [Morbus]
can you view multiple mailboxes at the same time?
19:37:40 [Morbus]
in my eudora, i have the mailbox list on the left, the task progress in the lower left, and then a 70% inbox and a 30% outbox on the right.
19:37:42 [Morbus]
it works insanely well for me.
19:38:17 [redmonk]
you can't open a mailbox in a new window
19:38:24 [Morbus]
yuk
19:38:30 [redmonk]
i have th list of mailboxes on the left
19:38:33 [Morbus]
i'm picky.
19:38:38 [redmonk]
contents top-right
19:38:41 [Morbus]
its hard to leave an email program you've used for years <G>
19:38:43 [redmonk]
preview bottom right
19:38:46 [redmonk]
no kidding
19:39:02 [redmonk]
mail is slow when you get 4000+ emmails in a mailbox
19:39:06 [redmonk]
(wo-dev)
19:39:17 [Morbus]
hmm.
19:39:27 [Morbus]
i have about 1200 in my "sent items" for this year along.
19:39:28 [redmonk]
though it's not BAD
19:39:29 [Morbus]
alone.
19:39:54 [redmonk]
* redmonk has 433 since october
19:40:12 [redmonk]
* redmonk reads a lot/writes little
19:40:28 [Morbus]
sw people: go to ntk.net and read the second blurb under Hard News
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19:42:00 [Morbus]
strace meets expect" about covers it. SUBTERFUGUE for Linux
19:42:00 [Morbus]
2.4 kernels lets you insert Python code between the OS and
19:42:00 [Morbus]
an application, mangling and filtering any data along the
19:42:00 [Morbus]
way.
19:42:18 [Morbus]
A version for MacOS X could
19:42:18 [Morbus]
be a timely development. Oh go on.
19:42:18 [Morbus]
http://subterfugue.org/
19:42:51 [redmonk]
"so how do we encode "implies a time-event when pigs will fly"?"
19:43:52 [AaronSw]
:SemanticWeb => [ a :TimeEvent ; :where { :Pigs :ability :Fly } .
19:44:11 [Morbus]
heh.
19:44:14 [redmonk]
heh
19:44:14 [Morbus]
is that this n3 thing?
19:44:45 [redmonk]
yes
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19:52:09 [redmonk]
CRAP
19:52:39 [redmonk]
when my machine borked, Project Builder decided to write SHIT over 3 of my source files
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i HATE that
19:52:56 [AaronSw]
you need CVS
19:53:19 [redmonk]
using it - but i had not yet checked in my recent changes - fixes i should say.
19:53:27 [redmonk]
i'll get tht eold version back
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but it still means another half-hour of reworking
20:03:00 [sbp]
* sbp is rather pleased having written and recorded a couple of new songs
20:03:23 [redmonk]
good forr you sbp
20:03:27 [redmonk]
wanna hear 'em
20:04:09 [redmonk]
anyone know how much those little usb mikes are?
20:04:15 [sbp]
I'd put them online but a) I don't want to b) they're huge wav's c) I can't be bothered to compress them :-)
20:04:26 [sbp]
little usb mikes? dunno
20:04:35 [redmonk]
just rip e'm to mp3...
20:04:37 [sbp]
I have two regular ones... about a fiver each
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er, 'em
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right
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it's funny: I'd written one, and as I went to record that one, I came up with another and recorded that too. Heh
20:07:09 [redmonk]
awesome
20:07:41 [AaronSw]
Wow, a Sysadmin's code of ethics: http://www.sage-au.org.au/ethics.html
20:11:07 [redmonk]
starthsip.s?
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heh
20:11:22 [sbp]
heh,h eh
20:11:25 [sbp]
heh
20:12:03 [Ash]
Oh!
20:12:05 [Ash]
Oh good.
20:14:38 [AaronSw]
ugh, my neck is really hurting
20:14:45 [Morbus]
http://www-106.ibm.com/developerworks/library/us-cranky15/?n-us-442
20:15:29 [sbp]
[OLM]
20:15:36 [Morbus]
what's that mean?
20:16:14 [sbp]
it means "Oh, little Morby"
20:17:08 [Morbus]
ah
20:17:11 [redmonk]
hehe
20:17:15 [Ash]
hehe
20:18:23 [Ash]
Have I mentioned today that I love kinesis?
20:18:30 [sbp]
not yet, AFAIK
20:18:38 [Ash]
I just reprogrammed my kinesis to have a higher typematic rate, plus I remapped a bunch of keys
20:18:39 [Ash]
woohoo
20:18:51 [sbp]
that's marvellous
20:18:53 [Ash]
http://www.kinesis-ergo.com/contoured.htm <- mine
20:18:56 [sbp]
what on earth are you talking about?
20:18:57 [sbp]
ah
20:19:13 [Ash]
keyboardddddddddddddddd
20:19:15 [Ash]
woo
20:19:24 [sbp]
I've seen a picture of your keyboard. I feel so leet
20:19:41 [Ash]
Yes, you are leet now.
20:19:49 [Ash]
I have two of them here in the office.
20:19:57 [redmonk]
that is the freakiest keyboard i've seen lately
20:20:16 [sbp]
which one do you have? no, let me guess... the classic
20:21:40 [AaronSw]
ugh, my neck is reaally hurting
20:21:56 [sbp]
didn't you already say that?
20:22:00 [sbp]
ah, you added an extra a
20:22:06 [sbp]
it *must* be hurting, then :-)
20:22:08 [sbp]
how did you do it?
20:22:15 [AaronSw]
heh, so i did. it must be affecting my memory
20:22:16 [AaronSw]
';-)
20:22:20 [sbp]
heh, heh, heh
20:22:22 [Ash]
I have the classic, sbp
20:22:23 [Ash]
hehe
20:22:37 [Ash]
I don't really need the pro- the classic has enough memory for me.
20:22:50 [redmonk]
i used to us one of the MS ergo kb's
20:22:53 [redmonk]
when i used a desktop
20:22:59 [redmonk]
now i only use my tibook
20:23:00 [sbp]
sbp has changed the topic to: "It's okay to make money. It's not about money; it's about freedom" - Richard Stallman || <sbp> hackers 1, crackers 0 || Aaron's neck is hurting || This topic is getting too long
20:23:30 [sbp]
our poor weblog users...
20:23:42 [Ash]
Ash has changed the topic to: "It's okay to make money. It's not about money; it's about freedom" - Richard Stallman || <sbp> hackers 1, crackers 0 || Aaron's neck is hurting || This topic is getting too long || No, no it's not.
20:23:44 [Morbus]
OSXGuide offers a brief look at three non-Microsoft e-mail clients for OS X, and the author rates Eudora highest, followed closely by PowerMail and Mailsmith.
20:23:49 [sbp]
heh
20:23:56 [Morbus]
http://www.osxguide.com/modules.php?op=modload&name=News&file=article&sid=35&mode=&order=0
20:24:02 [sbp]
chump it!
20:24:17 [Morbus]
um...
20:24:19 [Morbus]
@ http://www.osxguide.com/modules.php?op=modload&name=News&file=article&sid=35&mode=&order=0
20:24:21 [Morbus]
?
20:24:29 [AaronSw]
yep
20:24:29 [Morbus]
@http://www.osxguide.com/modules.php?op=modload&name=News&file=article&sid=35&mode=&order=0
20:24:35 [Morbus]
* Morbus grumbles
20:24:37 [AaronSw]
no, you were right before, just gotta wait
20:24:39 [Morbus]
the chump has forsaken me.
20:24:45 [chumpster]
B: http://www.osxguide.com/modules.php?op=modload&name=News&file=article&sid=35&mode=&order=0 from Morbus
20:24:45 [sbp]
.google "Contribute in representing state in RDF"
20:24:46 [xena]
"Contribute in representing state in RDF": http://infomesh.net/2001/swintro
20:24:53 [AaronSw]
AaronSw has changed the topic to: crypto is hard. let's go shopping.
20:25:01 [Morbus]
B|OS X Email Client Showdown
20:25:08 [Morbus]
B:|OS X Email Client Showdown
20:25:08 [AaronSw]
it's B:|
20:25:12 [AaronSw]
there you go
20:25:25 [chumpster]
titled item B
20:25:45 [Morbus]
B::Doesn't rank Entourage due to its "reported instability", so entourage lovers beward.
20:25:56 [redmonk]
d'oh
20:26:01 [chumpster]
commented item B
20:26:01 [sbp]
beward? hehity
20:26:13 [sbp]
B1::Doesn't rank Entourage due to its "reported instability", so entourage lovers beware
20:26:17 [sbp]
come on now!
20:26:19 [Morbus]
B::But hey, my favored email program is Eudora, which has mbox compatible files for each mailbox.
20:26:22 [sbp]
cccccccaaam an!
20:26:29 [sbp]
Pff!
20:26:39 [chumpster]
commented item B
20:26:51 [sbp]
chumpster, I hork at thee
20:27:17 [Morbus]
B::"Unfortunately, there are still some very noticeable pitfalls to Mailsmith. First of all, it has no HTML viewing capabilities, which will be annoying if you rely on email that has HTML formatting."
20:27:22 [Morbus]
B::This is not a shortcoming.
20:27:30 [Morbus]
B::This is enlightenemnt.
20:27:36 [redmonk]
B::Preach it brother.
20:27:37 [chumpster]
commented item B
20:27:58 [chumpster]
commented item B
20:28:15 [chumpster]
commented item B
20:28:38 [chumpster]
commented item B
20:28:40 [sbp]
B::Testify!
20:28:53 [sbp]
heh, sorry. Had to
20:28:57 [chumpster]
commented item B
20:29:04 [Morbus]
B::You betta recognize!
20:29:16 [redmonk]
B::"Gentlemen, testify!"
20:29:24 [AaronSw]
* AaronSw grabs new chump and mod_xslt
20:29:26 [sbp]
* sbp listens to Mr. Sandman
20:29:27 [chumpster]
commented item B
20:29:44 [chumpster]
commented item B
20:29:46 [redmonk]
sorry - obligatory REM reference
20:29:47 [Morbus]
MyFreePress.com has a great tag line. "Freedom of the press is only guaranteed to those who own one"
20:29:56 [AaronSw]
that's an old saying
20:30:06 [Morbus]
never heard it.
20:30:06 [sbp]
What's the frequency, redmonk?
20:30:09 [Morbus]
heheheheh
20:30:16 [Morbus]
* Morbus kicks redmonk
20:30:30 [AaronSw]
AJ Liebling, "The Press"
20:30:37 [redmonk]
sbp: lol
20:30:48 [redmonk]
* redmonk hops on one foot
20:30:54 [redmonk]
ouch!
20:30:58 [redmonk]
*splutch*
20:31:05 [sbp]
heh, heh
20:31:06 [redmonk]
* redmonk respawns
20:31:10 [sbp]
* sbp waits for Morb to respawn
20:31:23 [Morbus]
* Morbus lags.
20:31:25 [Morbus]
* Morbus respawns
20:31:28 [redmonk]
lol
20:31:33 [redmonk]
god i love swhack
20:31:41 [redmonk]
hours of entertainment
20:31:47 [sbp]
heh, I was just about to say something like that :-)
20:31:48 [Morbus]
hehehe
20:31:53 [sbp]
it's "home" :-)
20:31:59 [redmonk]
interactive tv, bah!
20:32:01 [redmonk]
who needs it
20:32:24 [Ash]
yeah
20:32:27 [Ash]
irc's better than tv
20:33:13 [sbp]
gimme textlets, a crazy bitchbot named xena, a deranged disobey dude, a wacky recluse, an REM fan, and some genii/bots, and what do you get? Doom jokes, OSX article reviews, and banter
20:33:33 [Morbus]
bruce banter?
20:33:36 [Morbus]
isn't he the incredible hulk?!
20:33:46 [sbp]
ooh, we need a HulkBot
20:33:53 [Morbus]
yeah!
20:34:03 [Morbus]
and like, the more text there is in an hour, the angrier he gets.
20:34:04 [redmonk]
"mr. mcgee, don't make me angry..."
20:34:14 [Morbus]
until eventually, he'll just start spouting obscenties into the channel.
20:34:24 [redmonk]
"you wouldn't like me when i'm angry"
20:34:39 [sbp]
I dunno how we'll make it turn green, though
20:34:49 [redmonk]
all the bots are greeen right now ;-)
20:34:49 [Morbus]
ask AaronSw, he's up on colors <G>
20:34:53 [sbp]
heh, heh
20:35:03 [Ash]
* Ash wonders if he's hte wacky recluse
20:35:04 [Ash]
lol
20:35:08 [Ash]
s/hte/the/
20:35:17 [sbp]
no, that's me
20:35:19 [AaronSw]
I make the bots green.
20:35:21 [Ash]
Ah
20:35:24 [Ash]
I'm just one of the bots
20:35:26 [Ash]
bleep bloop
20:35:31 [Ash]
* Ash does the robot
20:35:34 [Ash]
*dance dance dance*
20:36:02 [sbp]
sbp has changed the topic to: AaronSw: kissed the bots and made them green
20:36:21 [Morbus]
they're like a blarney stone of robotic arousal
20:38:04 [AaronSw]
that was rude
20:38:15 [AaronSw]
AaronSw has changed the topic to: * Ash does the robot
20:38:34 [Morbus]
huh?
20:38:34 [sbp]
what was rude?
20:38:41 [sbp]
WTF?
20:39:25 [AaronSw]
I'll just give you time to think about what you've done.
20:39:26 [sbp]
Newsguy: "Mr. Swartz was not available for comments"
20:39:35 [Morbus]
heheh
20:39:36 [sbp]
Oh. O.K.
20:39:54 [Morbus]
he was out stroking the emotions of the blarney stone, who at this time, is suing Morbus for emotional distress.
20:40:08 [sbp]
all I can think is that I changed your crappy topic into a kick-ass one in doubleplusquick time
20:40:27 [AaronSw]
i'll kick your...
20:40:34 [sbp]
butt if you kick mine?
20:41:26 [sbp]
right, well, I'm lost. Oh well
20:42:52 [Ash]
ha ha
20:43:44 [Morbus]
paradise lost?
20:44:23 [Morbus]
New Scientist. Early puberty in girls linked to shampoos. >>>...says Chandra Tiwary, former chief of paediatric endocrinology at Brooke Army Medical Center in Texas. "I believe that the frequency of sexual precocity can be reduced simply if children do not use those hair products," he says.<<<
20:45:24 [sbp]
I wonder how they came to that conclusion?
20:45:58 [AaronSw]
emperical evidence, according to the article
20:46:22 [sbp]
oh, well, it must be true then
20:46:30 [Morbus]
ok.
20:46:31 [Morbus]
Cocoa developers: you can call CFURLCreateStringByAddingPercentEscapes
20:46:36 [redmonk]
<smallprint>Common side effects of this product may include but not be limited to early-onset puberty...</smallprint>
20:46:37 [Morbus]
now, that's just the most insane function name i've ever seen
20:46:53 [redmonk]
yeah - many CF calls are way out there
20:46:53 [sbp]
rm: heh, heh
20:48:31 [redmonk]
in WO there's a classic one:
20:48:50 [AaronSw]
WORemoveBugs?
20:48:52 [Morbus]
the thing I leanred today:
20:48:52 [redmonk]
myObject.addObjectToBothSidesOfRElationshipWithKey()
20:48:54 [Morbus]
"Great April 1st, some jokes were too obvious though. By the way, here in Mexico it's a non-event, December 28th is the local equivalent."
20:49:25 [Ash]
this april 1st was LAME
20:49:30 [Ash]
everything was just so stupid.
20:49:35 [Ash]
It's like AOL invaded the internet.
20:49:35 [sbp]
I'm the master: doTheTriple!
20:49:47 [AaronSw]
the h2o joke was pretty funny
20:49:54 [Ash]
Yes, that was quite good.
20:49:59 [Ash]
But that was the only really good one I heard.
20:51:42 [redmonk]
too bad the thing with neo85 wasn't on aprils fools
20:51:52 [redmonk]
that was high-larious
20:51:55 [Morbus]
heh.
20:51:58 [Morbus]
were you watching it live?
20:52:04 [redmonk]
no - logs
20:52:10 [redmonk]
unfortunately
20:52:11 [sbp]
:-)
20:52:15 [Morbus]
:)
20:52:15 [sbp]
Gotta run
20:52:18 [Ash]
That's funny any day of the year.
20:52:18 [redmonk]
would have jjumped in
20:52:22 [Morbus]
heheheh
20:52:22 [redmonk]
yep
20:53:54 [Morbus]
In an WWDC Update email to Apple Developers, Apple advises that all attendees of Apple's 2002 Worldwide Developers Conference will receive InstallAnywhere - Mac OS X Edition, a US$1,995 value, for free!
20:53:55 [Morbus]
nice!
20:55:46 [redmonk]
oh sorry, no.
20:56:48 [redmonk]
not gonna help YOU ;-)
20:57:32 [AaronSw]
Hm, Apache's giving me "Could not determine base pathname of the file"
21:00:30 [redmonk]
" i lot my self in sorrow"
21:00:38 [redmonk]
"i lost my self myself in pain"
21:00:46 [redmonk]
"i lost myself in gravity, memory..."
21:00:52 [redmonk]
'to leave, leave leave..."
21:02:08 [Morbus]
never heard that error before.
21:02:12 [Morbus]
is that in your error_log?
21:02:32 [Morbus]
logster, where am I?
21:02:32 [Morbus]
See http://blogspace.com/swhack/chatlogs/2002-04-05#T21-02-32
21:04:32 [AaronSw]
fixed it
21:04:42 [AaronSw]
debian modxslt is different than normal modxslt
21:04:53 [AaronSw]
it wants the .xsl file to be named something else, so i had the names wrong
21:07:06 [AaronSw]
hm, i hate Eudora.
21:07:27 [Morbus]
why?
21:08:27 [AaronSw]
I don't remember, I think it's because it sucked.
21:08:52 [Morbus]
oh. ok. <G>
21:09:42 [Morbus]
man, yahoo has porn.
21:09:42 [Morbus]
http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/mt/us/dailynews/?u
21:09:51 [Morbus]
fifth or sixth image on the left.
21:12:39 [AaronSw]
weird caption
21:15:34 [Morbus]
AaronSw, have you heard anything new about p2pq?
21:15:39 [AaronSw]
nope
21:15:41 [Morbus]
i'm thinking someone needs to take it over or start up a new one.
21:15:46 [Morbus]
i think the idea is too sound to disappear
21:17:25 [Morbus]
hey sony's admitting it:
21:17:26 [Morbus]
"The CD will probably cause a system to crash, but it will not alter anything," the spokeswoman said. "And it won't eject properly, but that's just because the computer has crashed."
21:17:37 [Morbus]
i didn't think it'd be that blatant
21:18:10 [AaronSw]
morbus, how do i set the index file for a directory in apache
21:18:30 [Morbus]
DirectoryIndex
21:19:46 [Morbus]
DirectoryIndex <filename> <filename> <filename>
21:19:58 [Morbus]
in order of use, for faster serving
21:20:10 [AaronSw]
ok, thanks
21:20:24 [Morbus]
i think i mentioned that in #3 or #4 ;)
21:21:00 [AaronSw]
hm, doesn't seem to work with mod_xslt
21:21:23 [Morbus]
what do you mean?
21:21:32 [Morbus]
i've not used mod_xslt
21:22:01 [AaronSw]
mod_xslt intercepts requests for *.html and creates them based on $1.xml
21:22:21 [AaronSw]
but when i visit /foo/ i just get the directory listing, not the generated index file
21:22:26 [AaronSw]
visiting /foo/index.html works, tho
21:22:46 [Morbus]
sounds like a precedence issue.
21:22:57 [Morbus]
you may be able to do a "Redirect / index.html"
21:23:21 [Morbus]
you've got an index.xml file in there? and no matching index.html?
21:23:32 [AaronSw]
yep
21:23:44 [Morbus]
becuase if apache doesnt' see an index.html file, it'll just display an index, regardless of what DirIndex is set for.
21:23:46 [AaronSw]
yeah, but I don't really want an actual redirect
21:23:48 [Morbus]
apache has to see the file.
21:23:53 [AaronSw]
that's what i figured
21:23:57 [AaronSw]
maybe I can do a proxy thing
21:30:21 [sbp]
Hooray, Niles just proposed to Daphne!
21:30:32 [AaronSw]
you're a bit behind...
21:30:56 [sbp]
yep
21:34:24 [AaronSw]
oh, heh, it works if i create a dummy index.html
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21:35:26 [Morbus]
oh, it does? i thought there actually had to be something in the file for the xslt to work.
21:35:35 [Morbus]
shows how much i know about xslt ;)
21:35:43 [AaronSw]
no, the xslt runs entirely off of the index.xml file
21:35:53 [AaronSw]
so it just ignores index.html
21:36:03 [AaronSw]
but mod_directory sees it, and calls whatever procedure renders it
21:36:07 [AaronSw]
so it works out in the end...
21:36:19 [AaronSw]
bit hacky, tho
21:36:33 [Morbus]
hey, it works :)
21:36:43 [AaronSw]
I'm not complaining ;)
21:36:55 [Morbus]
i still haven't gotten my cdr workign under os x.
21:37:08 [Morbus]
i tihink it's so insanely old that it diddn't support the standards later developed.
21:37:26 [Morbus]
its an old scsi, and there was a bug in 10.1.2 and below about scsi cds.
21:37:33 [Morbus]
which they supposedly fixed in .3
21:37:39 [Morbus]
but to no availl can I get it running.
21:37:52 [Morbus]
asprofiler doesn't show anything.
21:37:54 [Morbus]
sigh.
21:37:59 [Morbus]
i have to keep booting into classic to burn a cd.
21:38:15 [Morbus]
and then 9 crashes on me, and then the mbr gets fucked up so it can't find an os.
21:38:36 [Morbus]
so i have to boot off an os 9 cd to run disk first aid, and then reset to os x for the startup disk.
21:38:38 [Morbus]
its such a hassle.
21:40:11 [Morbus]
i got my scsi scanner workign with vuescan.
21:40:21 [Morbus]
and that's even older than the cdr.
21:40:32 [Morbus]
and my usb webcam still doesn't work under osx, but at least it does through classic.
21:47:14 [sbp]
* sbp watches a very interesting interview with President Bush
21:47:21 [sbp]
conducted by Trevor McDonald
21:47:43 [sbp]
McD: Do you think the war on terrorism has reached a stalemate?
21:47:47 [sbp]
Bush: Is that a joke?
21:48:06 [Morbus]
who's TmcD?
21:51:16 [Morbus]
ooh.
21:51:17 [Morbus]
sbp:
21:51:19 [Morbus]
http://diveintomark.org/
21:51:22 [Morbus]
search for "referers"
21:51:38 [Morbus]
nevermind:
21:51:38 [Morbus]
http://diveintomark.org/archives/2002/04/05.html#new_form_of_inefficient_communication_discovered
21:51:45 [Morbus]
stupid unhilighted, un visual link
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21:54:56 [AaronSw]
you some sort of visual person?
21:55:17 [Morbus]
well, when the link is all black, no unerlines, and looks like an h3? and the rest of the site shows the normal blue?
21:55:20 [Morbus]
yeah. i'd say that's an issue ;)
22:00:35 [sbp]
(freely paraphrasing)
22:00:48 [sbp]
Bush: My government's policy is that Saddam must go
22:00:55 [sbp]
TMcD: How you plan on achieving that?
22:01:05 [sbp]
Bush: Wait and see
22:01:26 [Ash]
Bush: I like bacon
22:01:27 [sbp]
there was also a tour around the White House...
22:01:40 [sbp]
* sbp wonders if there's a transcription anywhere
22:02:04 [deltab]
I missed most of that :-(
22:02:24 [deltab]
I like those televisual walks
22:02:31 [deltab]
they give a sense of location that the usual fixed shots don't
22:02:57 [sbp]
indeed
22:03:02 [sbp]
@ http://media.guardian.co.uk/broadcast/story/0,7493,678770,00.html
22:03:34 [sbp]
Bush seemed as humbled as McDonald to be standing in the Oval Office
22:03:36 [chumpster]
C: http://media.guardian.co.uk/broadcast/story/0,7493,678770,00.html from sbp
22:03:45 [sbp]
C:|McDonald scoops Bush interview
22:04:01 [chumpster]
titled item C
22:04:22 [Morbus]
this is what you're watching?
22:04:26 [Morbus]
if you find a transcript, lemme know.
22:04:48 [sbp]
it's finished now; I'm just hunting for a transcription
22:10:08 [sbp]
I don't think I'm going to find it, unfortunately
22:10:28 [sbp]
Bush said that he'll be talking with Blair a lot in the upcoming days, discussing all of the available options w.r.t. Iraq
22:11:02 [Morbus]
i should auction off a bomb shelter on ebay
22:11:05 [sbp]
he also thinks that peace can be achieved in Isreal, and used the end of the cold war and his meeting with Putin as an analogy
22:12:13 [sbp]
His message to Americans (in response to the question as to what can they do to fight terror) was to "love someone [...] small acts are what builds the nation" (again, paraphrasing; sorry)
22:12:34 [Morbus]
sbp, would you love me? i have no one left.
22:13:10 [sbp]
no neighbors? no collegues?
22:13:33 [Morbus]
heh, heh.
22:13:34 [Morbus]
no :)
22:20:14 [Morbus]
holy crap.
22:20:18 [Morbus]
i feel like i'm in teh fucking geek gap: http://m.doubleclick.net/viewad/684401/125-emergence.jpg
22:20:36 [Morbus]
that guy needs a disfigurement or something
22:21:05 [Ash]
wtf
22:24:33 [sbp]
welcome to the wacky world of Morbus. Morbus' welcoming wacky world (WWW)
22:24:49 [Morbus]
where'd that come from?
22:25:01 [sbp]
where'd what come from?
22:25:18 [Morbus]
that sentence of yours just seemed to come out of further nowhere than usual.
22:25:37 [sbp]
green plastic cow spoiler heaps?
22:27:09 [AaronSw]
<HYPE>ETCON2002!</HYPE>
22:27:23 [AaronSw]
Is Rael Doenfest Jonathan Ive in disguise??? Find out
22:31:14 [Morbus]
AaronSw, where's the online version of stallman's free as in?
22:31:30 [AaronSw]
the community site: faifzilla.org
22:31:37 [Morbus]
thanks
22:32:02 [AaronSw]
the fancy oreilly site: http://www.oreilly.com/openbook/freedom/
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* AaronSw goes driving
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23:32:40 [sbp]
Gotta run
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