00:23:02 kham has quit (Remote closed the connection) 00:41:40 tomc (~lambda@modem-1442.panther.dialup.pol.co.uk) has joined #swhack 01:21:09 tomc has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 01:32:01 thc (~lambda@modem-1442.panther.dialup.pol.co.uk) has joined #swhack 01:40:00 sbp has changed the topic to: Here, topic, topic, topic... 01:41:32 g'even', thc 01:42:33 'ello there, spb 01:42:45 spb? not even! 01:43:17 anyhoo, welcome (back) to the merry land of swhack 01:43:42 oh man, that has to go in the topic 01:43:54 sbp has changed the topic to: Welcome (back) to the merry land of Swhack 01:44:37 rename yourself spb 01:44:44 you know you want to 01:44:52 Make me 01:45:22 * thc pulls a virtual gun 01:45:39 like rm and his railgun? 01:46:06 [sound of Morbus running screaming into a wall] 01:46:17 more like morbus and his duck 01:46:31 duck??? what the splutch? 01:46:53 splutch??? what the duck? 01:46:59 heh, heh 01:47:04 oops, spelt fuck wrong 01:47:11 *cough* 01:47:21 defly done 01:47:48 def indeed. 01:47:54 or deftly. So what if we chp a few arbitrary chars out here and ther 01:48:30 I'll et yo of 01:48:37 thank 01:49:10 we shold start playing /x70 at this point 01:49:16 f ou chag yur nam 01:49:45 *sigh* I'm not very good at pursuasive 01:49:59 um /x70. No doubt 01:50:00 I agree 01:50:19 in fact, \x70 may have made more sense 01:50:30 more sense yes 01:51:02 my text editor would recognise it as a character, probably uppercase letter 01:51:07 it's a lipogrammatic game introducted by Morb\x70s, whereby the participants may not enter the character between y and i on a qwerty keyboard 01:51:18 ah 01:51:21 tansaku_fg has quit (Remote closed the connection) 01:52:04 tansaku_fg (~sam@h134-141.tokyu-net.catv.ne.jp) has joined #swhack 01:52:09 * sbp forgets the alphabet, and decides that the qwerty spread is more well-known than the English alphabet anyway 01:52:21 surely one could leet one's way around those characters 01:52:39 yes, that's correct. we spent many a day playing this odd little game 01:52:49 Y could be 7, even though they're not so similar 01:53:05 often drifting into chortle-inspiring phrases 01:53:12 I see 01:53:33 oh, I didn't get what was meant be "leet" 01:53:44 n and u are easily confused 01:53:47 no, the \x70 replacement was crappy 01:53:53 the forbidden character! 01:53:56 or maybe coufnsed 01:54:19 *hm*? 01:54:35 if a player doed that, said player is IRC-spanked 01:54:42 qwert7\/10p 01:54:54 * sbp IRC-spanks thc 01:55:26 *hmm* 01:55:36 the characteristic that has been projected by the person called thc on this channel merited my recent IRC-spank action 01:55:39 the problem being..? 01:55:55 Oh 01:56:02 the problem is that replacements for the forbidden characters are not allowed! 01:56:09 :-) 01:56:24 it's only one damn character. not too diffi^H^H^H^H^Hhard to avoid 01:56:52 Ah 01:57:15 honestly. we played this game for days. it drove everyone insane in the end. it's all logged 01:57:41 I like. periods. otherwise known f\x70ll. stops. 01:57:53 I'm avoiding the letter that phonetics like `the person I'm speaking to` 01:58:04 heh, right 01:58:17 nice new verb there 01:59:09 I can't write the standard verb 01:59:12 heh 01:59:16 :-) 01:59:45 if I were american I might get away with sond 02:00:11 .google \x70 site:blogspace.com Morbii 02:00:12 no results found. 02:00:19 .google site:blogspace.com Morbii 02:00:20 site:blogspace.com Morbii: http://blogspace.com/swhack/chatlogs/2001-10-13.txt 02:00:33 perfect 02:00:54 heh, heh: "oh, i chortle with belly aching anxiety over the predicament we have entwined each other in 02:00:54 I remember morbii coming into the conversation before 02:00:57 " - Morb 02:01:21 :-) 02:01:31 is laff a word? 02:02:09 as in ``'avin' a laff'' 02:02:16 heh, heh. no 02:02:22 redmonk (~steve@ip68-2-102-26.ph.ph.cox.net) has joined #swhack 02:02:34 'lo all 02:02:35 try: chortle, or giggle 02:02:47 hey there redmonk. we've started playing that silly game again 02:02:50 *hmm* I wonder if it's normal to apostrophise both ends of a word 02:03:12 ah, yes, it is. those are p\x70nct\x70ation apostrophies 02:03:19 AFAIK 02:03:27 yes, they are. 02:03:52 which silly game? 02:03:56 sorry for the terrible twin employment of the replacement characters, there 02:04:00 tho it looks like single s 02:04:16 the one where we avoid a certain character located between t and v in the alphabet 02:04:26 c.f. http://blogspace.com/swhack/chatlogs/2001-10-13.txt 02:04:27 yes, I believed replacing characters was wrong? 02:04:32 s/c.f./cf./ 02:04:32 why are we avoiding it 02:04:36 ah ok 02:04:48 it is... however, I was employing a technical term there 02:05:10 I managed to get around the word 02:05:18 I don't know if that's allowable or not. Morb is normally the aritrator of those matters 02:05:42 * thc pretends he didn't break a convention there 02:05:48 argh! 02:05:48 OK 02:05:54 I almost didn't notice that 02:05:58 -1 thc 02:06:05 wopn 02:06:09 This is a WALLOPS message for the Open Projects Network. These messages contain non-critical comments and announcements and detailed server admin information. To turn them off, turn off user mode 'w'. On most clients: '/mode -w'. Thanks. 02:06:11 'almost'?! 02:06:18 almost 02:06:49 I told sbp! Sbp didn't notice a thing! 02:06:55 anyway, there's a bit of a Simpsons marathon tomorrow, so I'd better be going 02:06:57 Hints and tips on the new server code. (1) +b should now always override +q channel modes. So if you need to ban someone, it will override a 'quiet'. Try not to overuse it. 8) 02:07:04 * AaronSw waves 02:07:08 hi aaron 02:07:11 ffs! 02:07:13 don't forget: this channel is logged! I'll know if yall've been cheating 02:07:29 like I just did 02:07:35 the REMOVE command is now no longer an "experimental" command. Format is the same as KICK: /quote remove #channel nick :reason 02:07:49 hello. i deleted webobjects, yet my retrospect operation still has not completed 02:08:07 heh, heh 02:08:10 but what does REMOVE do? 02:08:22 same as kick, perhaps? :-) 02:08:30 anyway... 02:08:31 Gotta engage myself in a forwards motion, moving with swift steps 02:08:36 maybe it's a kickban 02:08:37 :-) 02:08:40 [erm, consider that (2) :)] REMOVE does a part with a uniquely identifiable part message, instead of telling the user they've been KICKed. If you need to remove someone from a channel, try using REMOVE. It's a lot less disruptive. 02:09:07 Um, ok... 02:09:11 oops 02:09:26 shoot, i lost so soon 02:10:14 (3) We've added a channel mode, +g, which affects the semantics of the INVITE command. Without +g the behavior is RFC1459-compliant; only channel operators can INVITE. With +g turned on, you get the old behavior, and anyone on the channel can INVITE. So take your pick. :) 02:11:23 :) 02:11:53 It can be very easy to hit that letter withnot noticing it 02:12:11 maybe sbp will forgive me 02:12:29 * AaronSw tries to find a way to +g the channel 02:12:39 It's also worth noting that it should no longer be possible to INVITE someone before the channel goes +i and have the invitation persist. Sorry kiddies, that exploit is gone. *sighrin* 02:13:17 kickMe (~aaronsw@63.149.73.20) has joined #swhack 02:13:47 hi 02:13:49 Let us know if it's still broken but I think you'll find it's been plugged....anyway, those are the highlights, other than netburst length reduced by about 25%. Thanks for listening to WALLOPS and thank you for using OPN! :) 02:13:50 hello 02:14:16 kickMe has left #swhack 02:15:44 *hmm* so can aaron (search again) that *anyone* leave this channel? 02:15:51 (search again) = ask 02:16:03 yep, i'm an op 02:16:37 kickMe (~aaronsw@63.149.73.20) has joined #swhack 02:16:57 kickMe has left #swhack 02:17:13 cool 02:17:53 Oh :) evidently 02:18:33 I didn't relate it to 'kick', for some reason, since it said req... the 'ask' word 02:18:49 :-) 02:18:56 it's polite kind of kick 02:19:23 how sweet :-) 02:20:40 notZakim has quit (Remote closed the connection) 02:21:09 *hmm* my new debian seems to dislike /dev/fd0 02:22:03 ooh, octothorpe is a nice word lacking the forbidden letter 02:22:24 * AaronSw is away: dinner 02:22:25 octothorpe? 02:22:31 aka # 02:22:31 maybe I shall go and pester for help 02:22:38 .wn octothorpe 02:36:53 tansaku_fg has quit () 02:42:56 tch (~lambda@modem-2397.orangutan.dialup.pol.co.uk) has joined #swhack 02:51:46 if I didn't know better I would say my floppy drive is funny 02:52:25 if I didn't know better I might say my floppy drive is dead 02:58:15 thc has quit (Connection timed out) 03:04:58 * AaronSw watches TPM DVD 03:06:25 wow, cool THX bit 03:06:59 TPM? 03:07:03 nm :) 03:07:55 The Phantom Menace! 03:09:22 * tch cringes 03:24:20 redmonk has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 03:42:08 davb has quit ("Client Exiting") 04:16:37 tansaku_fg (~sam@h134-141.tokyu-net.catv.ne.jp) has joined #swhack 04:40:52 04:41:02 04:47:51 tomc (~lambda@modem-2779.monkey.dialup.pol.co.uk) has joined #swhack 05:00:12 tch has quit (Success) 05:51:03 GabeW (~gwachob@12-236-237-100.client.attbi.com) has joined #swhack 06:14:09 pigeonrank! 06:14:19 http://www.google.com/technology/pigeonrank.html 06:55:45 GabeW has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 07:03:59 tomc has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 08:47:37 talli has quit (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 10:32:48 maybe sbp will forgive me 10:32:50 nope 10:32:54 sorry. -1 to Aaron 10:33:42 * sbp reads pigeonrank 10:34:22 Heh. I like the data 11:07:53 'tis \x75, BTW 11:43:59 CharBot (~sbp@m750-mp1-cvx3b.pop.ntl.com) has joined #swhack 11:44:05 CharBot, initialize! 11:44:05 I have initialized 11:44:11 CharBot, what are ya? 11:44:12 I'm an \x75 bot: telling people off when they employ that character 11:44:12 To get the score of someone: CharBot, score x 11:44:12 To get the highest (lowest) score: CharBot, highscore? 11:44:18 right 11:44:34 CharBot, highscore? 11:44:35 No highest score, yet 11:45:32 Hmm... I'd better register it 11:45:35 CharBot has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 11:46:19 CharBot (~sbp@m750-mp1-cvx3b.pop.ntl.com) has joined #swhack 13:04:25 Link compression testing, one baby netsplit. 13:26:41 CharBot has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 13:38:27 Hi all. Just a reminder. Most places on the planet we are well-into April 1, which some regard as the holiday "April Fool's Day"....expect inaccurate and distorted information from major and minor news sources. The effect should end in about 19 hours maximum. 13:45:01 davb (~dave@rrcs-nys-24-97-22-204.biz.rr.com) has joined #swhack 14:04:58 redmonk (~steve@63.149.73.20) has joined #swhack 14:20:04 where's charbot? 14:22:06 lol! 14:22:07 @ http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/28/24652.html 14:22:48 A: http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/28/24652.html from AaronSw 14:22:59 A:|You've got Blogs! AOL buys into homegrown media 14:23:16 titled item A 14:23:23 A::More information at [AOL/Scripting New|http://www.scripting.com/]. 14:23:39 commented item A 14:29:11 kham (kmnguyen@dhcp-29-159.imt.uwm.edu) has joined #swhack 14:29:34 good morning all 14:33:46 talli (~talli@ip64-75-147-9.dial.maui.net) has joined #swhack 14:36:29 morn'n 14:36:32 redmonk has left #swhack 14:36:39 redmonk (~steve@63.149.73.20) has joined #swhack 14:36:42 oops 14:38:00 cool: http://music.kagi.com/?MP3 14:42:08 that IS cool 14:48:19 kham has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 14:48:48 yahoo opt-out: http://subscribe.yahoo.com/showaccount 14:48:51 (hopefully, no joke) 14:48:58 @ http://subscribe.yahoo.com/showaccount 14:49:05 @ http://music.kagi.com/?MP3 14:49:25 B: http://subscribe.yahoo.com/showaccount from AaronSw 14:49:51 B:|Opt-Out of Yahoo Delivers spam, junk mail and telemarketing 14:49:53 C: http://music.kagi.com/?MP3 from AaronSw 14:50:10 titled item B 14:50:21 C:|TWEAK: Tipping Worldwide Entertainment Artists via Kagi 14:50:21 C::Kagi finds the artists while making money off the interest. 14:50:37 titled item C 14:50:54 commented item C 14:51:55 I did not see how kagi gets the $$$ to the artists 14:52:21 they hire people to search the artists out 14:52:52 cool 14:57:44 CharBot (~sbp@m734-mp1-cvx3b.pop.ntl.com) has joined #swhack 15:22:29 char, fluck off 15:22:30 AaronSw: you employed the forbidden character! 15:22:35 ;-) 15:22:43 .wn fluck 15:22:44 AaronSw: you employed the forbidden character! 15:22:53 * AaronSw is away: school 15:22:59 * AaronSw u 15:23:00 AaronSw: you employed the forbidden character! 15:23:02 * AaronSw is away: school 15:23:13 hehe 15:23:18 charbot is cuul 15:23:18 redmonk: you employed the forbidden character! 15:26:09 heeh 15:26:26 u 15:26:26 redmonk: you employed the forbidden character! 15:26:32 too fun 15:26:32 redmonk: you employed the forbidden character! 15:26:44 someone had way too much time on their hands 15:26:44 redmonk: you employed the forbidden character! 15:26:50 d'oh! 15:29:11 CharBot, highscore? 15:29:12 redmonk has the worst score: -4 15:29:16 heh, heh 15:29:25 tada!! 15:29:40 who da man? 15:29:49 redmonk da man! 15:29:54 heh 15:32:07 Morbus (morbus@s101.terminal3.totalnetnh.net) has joined #swhack 15:33:07 CharBot has quit (Killed (NickServ (Ghost: SeanP!sbp@m385-mp1-cvx3b.pop.ntl.com))) 15:33:13 CharBot (~sbp@m385-mp1-cvx3b.pop.ntl.com) has joined #swhack 15:33:34 Morb! welcome 15:35:12 heeh. Morb*sIff 15:49:58 Yeah... however, it's too easy to stop speaking when inadvertantly reaching the forbidden character. OTOH, nicks are kinda exempt 15:52:17 oh, we have a +g now! 15:52:29 u 15:52:30 eikeon: you employed the forbidden character! 15:52:48 Checking... was not s re :) 15:53:53 s re? 15:54:33 Pff, deleting the forbidden character (replacing it with a space)... that's low 15:55:09 Did not want to employ the forbidden character again... gotta start somewhere ;) 15:55:10 CharBot may have an IRC-spank method added in the time after the present 15:55:24 Blargh 15:55:55 I also need some command to print the list of scores, really 15:56:40 however, there might be a fair few entries, and I don't really want to messize the channel 15:57:47 Morbus has quit ("http://www.disobey.com/") 15:58:51 Hmm... It'd need to check words against a dictionary... 16:05:35 rm: in fact, CharBot was rather easy to hack. it only took all of half of one of those things that's comprised of 3600 seconds 16:06:34 Hmm... rather less than that, even. 1000 seconds? 16:06:47 .tavtime 16:06:47 2321.18.00.07.09 16:07:32 * redmonk thinks sbp is working way too hard on this non-employment-of-a-certain-vowel thing 16:08:47 nah 16:09:54 * sbp lobbies to have the character removed from (the newly renamed) Nicode 16:10:03 lol 16:35:18 sbp: charbot needs a new command: char 16:35:23 which returns 16:35:23 redmonk: you employed the forbidden character! 16:35:27 t*v 16:35:46 or a*c 16:35:50 you get the idea 16:35:50 redmonk: you employed the forbidden character! 16:35:58 yeah yeah 16:36:03 sh*t *p 16:36:16 charbot, highscore? 16:36:24 charbot, highscore 16:36:29 charbot highscore 16:36:35 ffind 16:36:37 finee 16:36:40 ignore me 16:37:18 CharBot, highscore? 16:37:19 redmonk has the worst score: -6 16:37:39 heh, heh 16:38:03 darn case sensitivity 16:39:32 It may have been set to (?i) 17:06:41 CharBot has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 17:14:06 AaronSw-library (~aaronsw@63.149.73.20) has joined #swhack 17:14:22 * AaronSw-library waves from Lake Forest library 17:14:31 via MindTerm Java SSH! woo! 17:15:38 notZakim (~swhack-br@63.149.73.20) has joined #swhack 17:16:09 notZakim, remind me in 60 minutes to catch the train 17:16:09 ok, AaronSw-library 17:16:40 AaronSw-library has changed the topic to: A verry merry fools day! 17:21:51 notZakim, remind me in 2 minutes not to use the letter yoo 17:21:52 I don't understand the last part of that, redmonk; about what am I supposed to remind you? 17:21:56 hehe 17:22:12 notZakim, remind me in 2 minutes to not use the letter yoo 17:22:12 ok, redmonk 17:22:19 oops 17:22:30 i yoosed it anyway 17:22:34 hehe 17:22:59 where's charbot when you need him? 17:23:05 oops 17:23:06 :) 17:23:56 this applet rocks 17:24:09 sweet 17:24:11 redmonk, you asked to be reminded at this time to not use the letter yoo 17:24:22 coool! 17:24:31 notZakim rocks 17:26:53 NYTimes: "" argh... can't paste 17:27:24 GabeW (~Gabe@12-236-237-100.client.attbi.com) has joined #swhack 17:27:38 "In this world [...] a $2,200 faucet gets the kind of lavish lighting and styling treatment that used to be reserved for skinny 17-year old models." 17:29:40 then some magazine writer calls me a liar for claiming that i actually (gasp!) read the New Yorker. 17:29:58 calls you? 17:31:57 well, everyone who claims to actually read long magazine stories 17:32:06 ahhhh 17:32:14 Brent: the only poem I can remember the beginning to is one with made-up words (Jabberwocky). 17:32:16 Same here. 17:32:22 same here 17:32:28 i loved that poem 17:32:43 "his vorpal sword went snicker snak!" 17:34:42 :-) 17:34:55 my machines are named vorpal and snicker-snack 17:35:01 i did not miss that. 17:35:03 ;-) 17:35:30 .google logicerror vorpal snicker-snack 17:35:31 logicerror vorpal snicker-snack: http://logicerror.com/serverGunk 17:36:43 @ http://www.google.com/technology/pigeonrank.html 17:37:21 D: http://www.google.com/technology/pigeonrank.html from AaronSw-library 17:37:34 D:|The secret behind Google's amazing accuracy 17:37:50 titled item D 17:42:25 lol! @ HTP msg 7333 17:43:10 @ http://www.applestudentdevelopers.org/ 17:43:42 E: http://www.applestudentdevelopers.org/ from AaronSw-library 17:44:10 E:|Apple Student Developers (dot org) 17:44:26 E::They're even holding an iPod breakout contest 17:44:27 titled item E 17:44:44 commented item E 17:45:18 need some cvs help 17:45:31 what's the process for branching? 17:45:58 i need to be able to update a library in it'c current compileable state, while adding a host of enw features 17:46:06 that won't be compilable for a while 17:46:51 hm, dunno. there are some good cvs guides ont he web, tho 17:46:59 k 17:47:11 anyone try out teoma yet? 17:47:27 teoma? 17:47:31 what's the idea behind the topic links? 17:47:47 http://www.teoma.com/ 17:47:57 google competitor 17:48:41 hm. they've put up a new design, and aren't showing the topic links anymore. 17:48:44 interesting 17:50:15 hm 17:50:47 nevermind i guess - earlier today they still had topical links at the top of the results page 17:51:01 yeah, i've seen that before 17:51:13 like they're tring to determine relevant topics to your search 17:51:21 but i was not too impressed with tht results. 17:51:28 maybe that's why they took it down 17:51:56 is it just me or is treedragon.com down? 17:52:01 .dns treedragon.com 17:52:01 treedragon.com - error: host not found 17:52:07 .dns www.treedragon.com 17:52:08 www.treedragon.com - error: host not found 17:52:08 same here 17:53:28 .whois treedragon.com 17:53:28 TREEDRAGON.COM registered to nobody expires on eriSign Registrar WHOIS database is provided by VeriSign for 17:53:47 notZakim, test 17:53:47 I don't understand 'test', AaronSw-library. Try /msg notZakim help 17:55:53 Morbus (~morbus@morbus.totalnetnh.net) has joined #swhack 17:56:03 sup morb 17:59:22 GabeW has quit ("Client Exiting") 18:02:26 :Nu om 20.00 Live chatmeeting over oprichten openstandaardenvereniging (#openstandaarden) 18:06:04 :There will be a meeting about Open Standards (in dutch) -> (#openstandaarden) 18:14:57 better go catch train home. laters 18:15:08 AaronSw-library has quit ("catching train!") 18:16:09 AaronSw-library, you asked to be reminded at this time to catch the train 18:32:40 GabeW (~Gabe@12-236-237-100.client.attbi.com) has joined #swhack 18:40:50 redmonk has quit ("cya") 19:07:58 notZakim has quit (Remote closed the connection) 19:24:26 19:24:28 oops 19:24:30 19:24:32 i accidentally knocked out my connection 19:24:58 plug it back in! plug it back in. 19:25:09 you're getting blurry! 19:25:19 it's back 19:25:19 jiggle the wires! man the antenna! woman the scsi! 19:25:56 but now my power adapter isn't working 19:26:06 see above! 19:26:20 AaronSw: do you know about apt-rpm? 19:26:41 yes 19:26:51 i found it to be problematic on my redhat systems 19:26:53 why not install it on calliope? 19:26:55 oh yeah? 19:27:15 packages were hard to find and connections were slow and things weren't updated very often 19:27:21 up2date is much better for redhat, imo 19:27:26 yes, i have noticed that it's not totally complete 19:27:33 and up2date is pretty nice 19:27:36 GabeW has quit ("Client Exiting") 19:27:38 but it's not totally free 19:27:49 not libre, no, but it is gratis 19:27:54 and it uses apt, which is nice 19:28:03 up2date? 19:28:08 teah 19:28:09 yeah 19:28:11 up2date 19:28:14 um, don't think so 19:28:18 i meant apt-rpm 19:28:21 :-) 19:28:49 heh: Replying to my own email like an idiot... again 19:30:26 that's a good one AaronSw 19:30:29 you must be getting old 19:30:36 memory is the first thing to go, you know 19:30:41 i didn't write it, just copied and pasted it 19:30:54 from a message from someone else 19:55:26 redmonk (~steve@63.149.73.20) has joined #swhack 19:59:38 CharBot (~sbp@m282-mp1-cvx3b.pop.ntl.com) has joined #swhack 19:59:38 talli has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 20:08:42 talli (~talli@64.75.157.55) has joined #swhack 20:10:07 talli has quit (Client Quit) 20:10:10 talli (~talli@64.75.157.55) has joined #swhack 20:11:09 gac (~chatzilla@gw.wamsystems.com) has joined #swhack 20:12:32 TimBL: (written a week ago ... I have a problem pressing send) 20:13:09 that was written two weeks ago, now 20:13:23 don't y'ever check mail? 20:13:41 yeah, but not list mail 20:13:42 AaronSw: you employed the forbidden character! 20:13:48 shut up 20:13:49 AaronSw: you employed the forbidden character! 20:13:59 CharBot, high score? 20:14:35 CharBot, highscore? 20:14:35 sbp, where's that RDF-in-XHTML thing? 20:14:35 redmonk has the worst score: -6 20:14:43 * AaronSw almost said stuff 20:14:44 AaronSw: you employed the forbidden character! 20:14:49 on www-tag. the minutes 20:14:49 sbp: you employed the forbidden character! 20:14:52 crap" 20:15:12 whoa, we have a CharBot? kickass. 20:15:25 the damn thing got me 20:15:29 :-) 20:15:34 it gets annoying quickly 20:15:35 AaronSw: you employed the forbidden character! 20:15:40 um, i mean fast! 20:15:41 AaronSw: you employed the forbidden character! 20:15:46 Aaron: S'mmary of 1 April 2002 TAG teleconference 20:15:56 yeah, it is annoying 20:16:12 however, we all stink for not being able to avoid the character 20:16:12 especially with text-to-speech 20:16:31 I'd make it say "ha ha!" if it'd help 20:17:13 I need to have it print scores... hang on 20:17:15 CharBot has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 20:18:48 CharBot (~sbp@m282-mp1-cvx3b.pop.ntl.com) has joined #swhack 20:18:54 CharBot, scores? 20:18:55 {'AaronSw': -8, 'redmonk': -6, 'sbp': -1, 'eikeon': -1} 20:19:12 negative eight?! 20:19:16 haha! i'm no longer the worst offender! 20:19:22 heh, heh 20:19:48 Aaron needs to prise the key from his keyboard 20:20:16 silly brits: "pry" 20:20:30 more like unplug 20:20:31 AaronSw: you employed the forbidden character! 20:20:32 * AaronSw ducks 20:20:33 AaronSw: you employed the forbidden character! 20:20:48 now i need to try and work the letter u into every sentence 20:20:48 AaronSw: you employed the forbidden character! 20:21:24 heh 20:22:03 sbp: give chatbot the ability to recognize when he's being baited 20:22:38 chatbot? 20:22:44 the char with whitespace for and aft;-) 20:22:48 charbot 20:22:59 baited: good idea 20:23:38 nyah nyah aaron - have to work harder ;-) 20:24:01 Aaron's going to bork it soon: I'll have to employ longs 20:24:08 * AaronSw giggles 20:24:24 heh 20:24:36 it might be better deriving scores by percentage, rather than straight incrementing 20:24:44 right 20:25:04 however, I wasn't clear on how to achieve that 20:25:18 what initially determined the forbidden character? 20:25:23 morbii 20:25:27 forbidden characters per set of total characrers, perhaps? 20:25:31 yep 20:25:36 cool 20:25:38 .google site:blogspace.com Morbii 20:25:39 site:blogspace.com Morbii: http://blogspace.com/swhack/chatlogs/2001-10-13.txt 20:25:45 from the top 20:25:47 ah, that'd be good. i was thinking lines of text but characters is better. 20:25:48 AaronSw: you employed the forbidden character! 20:25:55 urgh 20:25:57 AaronSw: you employed the forbidden character! 20:26:14 people don't see it in prepositions and grnts like that 20:26:14 heh, yo\x75 really s\x75ck at this 20:26:28 CharBot, sbp.score += 2 20:26:32 yep 20:26:58 yeah, charbot needs to "see" all forms of TFC 20:26:59 CharBot, u big dipstick 20:26:59 sbp: you employed the forbidden character! 20:27:10 I did deserve it 20:27:20 right. I need to implement per character 20:27:27 because Aaron's a bigmouth 20:27:28 sbp: you employed the forbidden character! 20:27:33 damn right I did 20:27:37 D'OH! 20:27:49 final scores... 20:27:54 CharBot, scores? 20:27:55 {'AaronSw': -13, 'redmonk': -6, 'sbp': -3, 'eikeon': -1} 20:27:57 CharBot has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 20:28:03 O.K. Now to rehack 20:29:10 Hmm... this is going to be a bit arsey 20:29:43 just keep two records for everyone: total chars and forbidden chars 20:30:04 right, but I'm picling so as to keep a persistent record 20:30:07 that'd work 20:30:16 which means I'll have to open, load, and store for each line 20:30:37 why not pickle only on q_it? 20:30:42 why not load on logon, and store on logoff 20:30:49 heh 20:30:54 because it doesn't quit softly 20:30:58 and why are you loading multiple times? 20:31:06 because it doesn't quit softly! 20:31:14 what does that have to do with loading? 20:31:43 nothing, I guess... 20:32:11 saving every line probably isn't too slow 20:32:19 or you could have a charbot, save! 20:32:33 charbot, save me! 20:32:38 or save every x lines 20:34:33 AaronSw: when will you be in boston? 20:34:40 April 23 20:34:43 i am going to set up an oacs social 20:34:46 ok, that's a good date 20:34:49 ooh, cool! 20:34:53 cool! 20:35:05 cool! (huh?) 20:35:05 AaronSw: just the 23rd? 20:35:12 yep 20:35:13 davb: good thing you're here 20:35:20 i was about to ask you in #openacs 20:35:26 AaronSw: when are you leaving boston? 20:35:39 about 7PM 20:36:10 hmmmm... can you make it any lateR? 20:36:20 that's the last flight i could find... 20:36:32 ah, ok 20:36:49 well... i think it should be around 6-9 or so 20:37:00 davb: can you make it on the 23rd? 20:37:20 davb, you in mass? 20:37:26 AaronSw: the social will be at a restaurant called redbones 20:37:44 the bbq? 20:37:55 yeah, it's a bbq joint 20:38:01 .google redbones 20:38:02 redbones: http://redbonesbbq.com 20:38:03 used to be my psuedo-living room 20:38:39 AaronSw: if you want to stick around for the social and you need a place to stay, i can set you up with one 20:38:57 lemme know 20:39:00 hmmmm 20:39:27 talli: i'll try to make it. probably have to go an come back though. 20:39:44 ok, if you need a place to crash, i can get you one too 20:39:48 ok, i need to go to costco 20:39:53 davb, AaronSw: lemme know 20:39:58 alright 20:40:05 it shouldn't be a prob at all, either way 20:40:07 ok, bbl 20:50:47 CharBot (~sbp@m180-mp1-cvx4c.pop.ntl.com) has joined #swhack 20:50:56 there we go 20:51:17 it works pretty similar to before 20:51:33 except now y'can get someone's stats with CharBot, detail x 20:51:54 score gives total characters/forbidden characters 20:52:04 highscore still gives the worst score 20:52:13 the higher the positive number, the worse the score 20:52:14 sbp: you employed the forbidden character! 20:52:16 CharBot, detail eikeon 20:52:16 eikeon details: \x75's: 0; chars: 35 20:52:26 oops 20:52:34 CharBot, score sbp 20:52:35 sbp has score: 0.00354609929078 20:52:40 there 20:52:41 Wow... all of 35 chars for eik :) 20:52:47 heh 20:52:53 CharBot, detail eikeon 20:52:54 eikeon details: \x75's: 0; chars: 90 20:52:56 CharBot, high score? 20:52:56 sbp has the worst score: [1, 310] 20:53:02 yeeeeaaah! 20:53:20 Aaron'd be on 15 total score by now 20:53:23 Charbot, detail Morbus 20:53:23 Morb\x75s: you employed the forbidden character! 20:53:24 I don't have a score for Morb\x75s 20:53:30 bwahahahah 20:53:42 erk 20:53:52 CharBot, detail Morb\x75s 20:53:52 I don't have a score for Morb\x75s 20:53:55 heh, i can't be penalized for that one, can I? 20:54:02 damn idiotic bot 20:54:31 Moohahahahaha... lol 20:54:57 not sure: you should be penalized 20:55:00 sbp: you employed the forbidden character! 20:55:06 yeah, yeah 20:55:08 CharBot has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 20:55:20 it's time for Frasier now; I'll fix it when I get back 20:55:31 c'ya 20:57:01 heh, now that charbot's gone, i can say 20:57:09 UUUUUUUVulaaaa!!!! 20:57:43 (cf. Mimi Bobeck fr. Drew Carey) 21:07:59 GabeW (~Gabe@12-236-237-100.client.attbi.com) has joined #swhack 21:21:15 gac has quit ("ChatZilla 0.8.6 [Mozilla rv:0.9.9/20020311]") 21:21:55 GabeW has quit ("Client Exiting") 21:30:25 davb has quit () 21:39:57 TODO: update swag.semanticweb.org dns 21:41:52 chuckle: next year, as an april fools joke, slashdot is only going to have serious reporting on totally new issues and only thoroughly fact checked articles and editorials 21:42:08 heh 21:44:51 @ http://www.cs.helsinki.fi/linux/linux-kernel/2002-13/0063.html 21:45:18 F: http://www.cs.helsinki.fi/linux/linux-kernel/2002-13/0063.html from AaronSw 21:45:33 F:|Linus resigns from Linux kernel development due to whiny patch submitters 21:45:49 titled item F 21:46:19 F::Possible replacements include Eric S. Raymond. Linus: "ESR has shown on many occasions that he can talk shit and still sound just as convincing as anyone on this list, all the time being completely oblivious to any contrasting viewpoints." 21:46:35 commented item F 21:54:10 CharBot (~sbp@m101-mp1-cvx3b.pop.ntl.com) has joined #swhack 21:54:20 the new and improved CharBot! 21:54:30 Hi CharBot 21:54:31 hi, sbp 21:54:56 'lo charbot 21:55:06 can u be baited? 21:55:06 redmonk: you employed the forbidden character! 21:55:18 heh. looks like it 21:55:30 charbot, highscores? 21:55:30 redmonk has the worst score: \x75s: 1; chars: 65; score: 1.53846153846%% 21:55:40 heh. 21:56:02 :-) 21:56:20 no "no-baiting" algorithm yet, eh? 21:56:34 crap, I'd fixed that twin percent crap 21:56:39 not yet, no 21:56:51 I was going to make it say "baiter!"... 21:56:59 uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu 21:56:59 redmonk: you employed the forbidden character! 21:57:03 charbot, highscores? 21:57:04 redmonk has the worst score: \x75s: 87; chars: 209; score: 41.6267942584%% 21:57:20 uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu 21:57:20 uuuuuuuuuuuu 21:57:21 redmonk: you employed the forbidden character! 21:57:21 redmonk: you employed the forbidden character! 21:57:26 charbot, highscores? 21:57:26 redmonk has the worst score: \x75s: 563; chars: 705; score: 79.8581560284%% 21:57:42 uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu 21:57:42 uuuuuuuuuuuu 21:57:42 redmonk: you employed the forbidden character! 21:57:42 redmonk: you employed the forbidden character! 21:57:45 charbot, highscores? 21:57:45 redmonk has the worst score: \x75s: 1039; chars: 1201; score: 86.5112406328%% 21:57:57 you're just going to be the worst forever now 21:57:57 sbp: you employed the forbidden character! 21:58:00 crap 21:58:05 ha! 21:58:08 CharBot has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 21:58:16 cheater!!! 21:58:20 sbp messes with the records now... 21:58:38 Hmm... might do 21:58:40 he'll take out his 1, and leave me with 506 21:58:46 ooh, good idea! 21:58:51 oh 1039 22:00:43 CharBot (~sbp@m101-mp1-cvx3b.pop.ntl.com) has joined #swhack 22:01:10 CharBot, highest score? 22:01:11 sbp, and CharBot have the worst score: [0, 43] 22:01:21 what's [0, 43] mean? 22:01:36 and what's with "sbp, and"? 22:01:42 heh, don't worry: it does a bit odd when no one has said the forbidden character yet 22:01:52 * sbp can't be bothered to recode that bit 22:01:56 "it does a bit odd"? 22:02:01 er... goes 22:02:15 heh. 22:02:22 sbp goes a bit odd... 22:02:31 * redmonk goes a bit odd 22:03:00 [0]: forbidden characters, [1]: characters in total 22:03:55 heh! http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2002/debian-devel-200203/msg02337.html 22:04:00 @ http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2002/debian-devel-200203/msg02337.html 22:04:02 that might be better expressed 22:04:06 [0/43] 22:04:36 G: http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2002/debian-devel-200203/msg02337.html from AaronSw 22:04:46 G:|New Debian Package: rootkit 22:04:49 naaaaah 22:05:03 titled item G 22:05:20 it might be better expressed as the percentage, however, it won't matter when somebody makes an error 22:05:32 if anybody makes an error, at this rate... 22:05:54 * sbp wonders if topics will prompt it 22:06:57 @ http://www.stepwise.com/Articles/Editorial/2002-04-01.01.html 22:07:26 Hmm... people can cheat by adding lots of random text-the forbidden character to the channel, so making their percentage smaller 22:07:28 H: http://www.stepwise.com/Articles/Editorial/2002-04-01.01.html from AaronSw 22:07:42 H:|Mac OS X Hidden Secrets Revealed 22:07:58 titled item H 22:08:08 H::including new compiler directive "--dwimnwis (Do what I mean not what I said)" 22:08:10 AaronSw: you employed the forbidden character! 22:08:24 commented item H 22:08:35 oops 22:09:30 Charbot, scores? 22:09:30 {'sbp': [0, 552], 'redmonk': [0, 84], 'CharBot': [0, 18], 'AaronSw': [1, 437], 'Morbus': [0, 16]} 22:09:38 H::"This notification is sent by NSProcessInfo whenever the kernel is nervous, but before it actually panics. This allows the receiver of the notification to do things to minimize the likelihood of a kernel panic affecting its process." 22:09:39 AaronSw: you employed the forbidden character! 22:09:45 i was q_oting! 22:09:54 commented item H 22:10:07 you still employed it. reification, smayification 22:10:07 sbp: you employed the forbidden character! 22:10:11 Charbot, explain Morbus 22:10:12 Morb\x75s: you employed the forbidden character! 22:10:12 crap 22:10:17 Charbot, detail Morbus 22:10:17 Morb\x75s: you employed the forbidden character! 22:10:17 Morb\x75s details: \x75s: 2; chars: 61 22:10:27 * Morbus grumbles. 22:10:27 Morb\x75s: you employed the forbidden character! 22:10:29 hehehe. 22:10:34 Charbot, detail Morb\x75s 22:10:35 Morb\x75s details: \x75s: 3; chars: 87 22:10:38 there 22:10:52 oh yeah, that's many times better. 22:11:03 very cool, sbp 22:11:06 well done 22:11:11 H::"NSInputManagerUserDidSomethingParticularlyStupidNotification This notification occurs when the user does something particularly stupid. A common use of this notification is to unexpectedly quit, just to teach the user a lesson." 22:11:11 AaronSw: you employed the forbidden character! 22:11:16 * sbp senses sarcasm 22:11:21 I was quoting! 22:11:22 AaronSw: you employed the forbidden character! 22:11:27 commented item H 22:11:28 I was "quoting" 22:11:29 AaronSw: you employed the forbidden character! 22:11:35 poor Aaron 22:11:38 no, you were not doing that. 22:11:39 Morb\x75s: you employed the forbidden character! 22:11:45 CharBot, highscore? 22:11:46 CharBot has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 22:11:50 feck! 22:11:51 * AaronSw giggles 22:11:54 heh - the best way to avoid ETFC is to keep silent ;-) 22:11:55 you were... .. "transcribing text already written" 22:11:57 * AaronSw gurgles 22:12:24 redmonk! 22:12:26 "WOECommerce. privateframework 22:12:27 This is the answer to the perennial question, "Why didn't Apple provide WebObjects developers with a set of classes such that I could simply put my logo in the project, then link against a framework, and it would automatically start up, find out what database I'm using, figure out what the products are, how to present them to the customer in direct actions, provide a shopping cart which would immediately start a session, determine the customer's credit limit 22:12:27 erver and deployment for me so I can then charge my client $500,000 for figuring out how to add my logo in step 1?" This is the first of a series of D2W (Direct To Wallet) frameworks Apple has developed with the generous assistance of David K. Every. 22:12:28 " 22:13:18 saw thAt. 22:13:21 awesome 22:13:36 kind of DKE to help with that ;-) 22:13:38 CharBot (~sbp@m101-mp1-cvx3b.pop.ntl.com) has joined #swhack 22:13:42 CharBot, highscore? 22:13:43 Morbus has the worst score: \x75s: 4; chars: 149; score: 2.68456375839% 22:14:00 damnit 22:14:27 CharBot has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 22:14:29 need to trim that to two decimal places 22:14:53 well, I think it may go further 22:15:08 CharBot (~sbp@m101-mp1-cvx3b.pop.ntl.com) has joined #swhack 22:15:15 CharBot, highscore? 22:15:15 Morb\x75s has the worst score: \x75s: 4; chars: 149; score: 2.68456375839% 22:15:30 that's better. fancy violating its own r... law 22:15:40 heh. 22:15:43 almost... 22:16:13 i'm... shocked it did not go into an infinite loop there 22:16:26 yep. that's why it doesn't recognize its own 22:16:31 heh 22:17:23 it's the ircsync norm. 22:18:20 s/ircsync/ircasync/ 22:19:04 CharBot has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 22:19:20 heh, I made a small error there... 22:20:34 CharBot (~sbp@m101-mp1-cvx3b.pop.ntl.com) has joined #swhack 22:22:04 'lo again, ya simpering, char-checking bag-o-bits 22:22:30 hey charbot 22:22:30 hi, sbp 22:24:07 weird: CharBot is tallying itself! 22:25:38 heh. this is the most annoying bot I think I've ever written. and spankybot was pretty annoying 22:25:46 @ http://www.npr.org/programs/atc/features/2002/apr/pethealthcare/index.html 22:25:47 AaronSw: you employed the forbidden character! 22:26:20 I: http://www.npr.org/programs/atc/features/2002/apr/pethealthcare/index.html from AaronSw 22:26:27 I:|Federally Funded Flea Dips for Fluffy? 22:26:28 AaronSw: you employed the forbidden character! 22:26:41 I::"The Bush administration announced a new, $345-trillion proposal to extend universal health care to pets -- causing the fur to fly on Capitol Hill as fiscal conservatives, animal rights groups and pro-human advocates joined the heated debate." 22:26:42 AaronSw: you employed the forbidden character! 22:26:44 titled item I 22:27:01 commented item I 22:27:13 charbot, detail redmonk 22:27:13 redmonk details: \x75s: 0; chars: 251 22:27:58 you're the only person with 0 \x75s 22:27:59 sbp: you employed the forbidden character! 22:28:02 damnit! 22:28:24 heh 22:28:46 trying to keep my trap closed ;-) 22:29:05 well, the more non-forbidden characters, the better 22:29:26 yeah 22:30:03 * AaronSw renames all files with "/" in their names for retrospect 22:31:46 mmpgh - appears that retrospect is still only good for old-mac-os really 22:31:59 why's that? 22:32:11 blargh @ / 22:32:12 apparently it's a fs problem 22:32:14 oh nevermind 22:32:24 brain fart 22:38:03 aaron - aaronsw.com is borked 22:38:08 hwo so? 22:38:27 somethin in the feed from swhack 22:38:47 a lot of the right-side content is at the bottom of the page 22:39:21 Hmm... lots of swhacky goodness 22:39:23 i bet it's the word NSInputManagerUserDidSomethingParticularlyStupidNotification 22:39:23 AaronSw: you employed the forbidden character! 22:39:39 Make me 22:39:52 wha? 22:40:03 hm, that didn't really work... 22:40:25 * sbp wonders what on earth Aaron meant 22:42:02 i was trying to give an appropriately sbp-style like-i-care response 22:42:07 to CharBot 22:42:56 robots rarely respond well to sarcasm, cynicism, or apathy 22:43:07 they're way too literal ;-) 22:45:01 wow, the "scripting addition" icon is really pretty 22:47:14 I'd have said: "yeah? what'ya gonna do?" 22:48:38 I wonder what the normal dist. of the forbidden character is in text? 22:49:23 dist? 22:49:30 oh 22:49:47 that's TFC 22:50:39 yeah, freq. 22:53:22 ah: http://www.raes.ab.ca/book/c28.htm 22:53:24 26/1000 22:53:45 it's the least-used, right? etian shrdl[TFC] 22:54:15 oh, Z is 22:55:44 CharBot has quit (Killed (NickServ (Ghost: sbp!~sean@63.149.73.20))) 22:55:50 CharBot (~sbp@m854-mp1-cvx4c.pop.ntl.com) has joined #swhack 22:56:04 (2.6%: close to Morb's score) 22:56:32 Morbus has quit ("http://www.disobey.com/") 23:02:03 CharBot has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 23:10:23 CharBot (~sbp@m854-mp1-cvx4c.pop.ntl.com) has joined #swhack 23:10:42 charbot, detail redmonk 23:10:42 redmonk details: \x75s: 0; chars: 23 23:10:48 oy 23:10:54 lost my good stats 23:10:57 :-( 23:11:13 CharBot, detail AaronSw 23:11:13 AaronSw details: \x75s: 0; chars: 23 23:11:19 woo! 23:11:22 sorry! still, I've added something for highest/lowest scores 23:11:28 i'm clean! 23:11:34 charbot, highest score? 23:11:35 sbp, redmonk, CharBot, and AaronSw have the worst score: 0% 23:11:42 charbot, best score? 23:11:42 sbp, redmonk, CharBot, and AaronSw have the best score: 0.0% 23:11:51 charbot, scores? 23:11:52 sbp: 0.0%; redmonk: 0.0%; CharBot: 0.0%; AaronSw: 0.0% 23:12:15 heh 23:12:29 ya had to trash the scores, din'ya 23:12:31 ? 23:12:33 ;-) 23:12:34 heh, heh 23:12:59 Hmm... I can always copy the pickle file 23:13:19 didn't think of that. I'll do it for the next ^grade 23:13:50 EEEeexcellent 23:14:35 Hmm... I have to stop it from grading itself 23:14:37 CharBot has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 23:15:28 why? it screws up sometimes 23:15:46 not anymore 23:15:57 never know... 23:18:24 CharBot (~sbp@m854-mp1-cvx4c.pop.ntl.com) has joined #swhack 23:18:39 charbot, scores? 23:18:41 CharBot has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 23:20:32 oh, the CygWin and Win picklers must be incompatible 23:20:33 odd! 23:21:24 CharBot (~sbp@m854-mp1-cvx4c.pop.ntl.com) has joined #swhack 23:21:47 and we're back on track. No more changes, I hope! 23:22:14 CharBot, scores? 23:22:14 sbp: 0.0%; AaronSw: 0.0% 23:22:40 I can't believe that CygWin horks on a file pickled with Windows Python 23:22:54 * AaronSw looks for more foolishness before the 6:00 deadline 23:23:39 poor rm; he had a really great score, too... 23:23:50 i know. 23:24:05 darn thee to hades, sbp! 23:24:09 heh 23:24:28 DW: "Ralph Levien is doing his PhD research on why I'm on crack. Apparently this is not an April Fools joke." 23:24:36 Raph is dead serious 23:24:37 AaronSw: you employed the forbidden character! 23:24:44 "i'm a winner. i can feel it." 23:25:12 did DW *read* that post? 23:25:22 cite? 23:25:39 http://wmf.editthispage.com/discuss/msgReader$7344?mode=day 23:25:40 redmonk: you employed the forbidden character! 23:25:48 geez 23:26:05 heh. hex escape them! 23:26:31 http://wmf.editthispage.com/disc\x075ss/msgReader$7344?mode=day 23:27:35 what kind of argument is this?! "Allowing outside developers to modify the Flash player would likely result in bloated code, Lynch said." 23:27:36 AaronSw: you employed the forbidden character! 23:27:52 charbot, scores? 23:27:52 sbp: 0.0%; redmonk: 0.440528634361%; AaronSw: 1.46198830409% 23:28:12 i.e. http://wmf.editthispage.com/disc%75ss/msgReader$7344?mode=day 23:28:24 ah 23:29:03 if it's in the host address, try the IP, as deltab did 23:30:10 * sbp is planning on playing consistently now :-) 23:31:01 heh: it won't be long before I make a mistake. I'll bet that we made a few errors in the original game that no-one noticed. We didn't even spot the cahracter in Morb's nickname for ages 23:33:30 sbp has changed the topic to: What a st^H^Hsilly game 23:33:54 so is there a command for changing TFC? 23:34:46 hey! 23:34:51 AaronSw has changed the topic to: Verry merry fools day! 23:34:57 hehe 23:34:57 wait until 6, bub 23:34:58 AaronSw: you employed the forbidden character! 23:35:04 Topic Wars 23:35:12 it's not April fools day anymore! 23:35:23 * AaronSw is away: dinner 23:35:40 DST doesn't start for another week, mah friend 23:35:46 .time 23:35:46 2002/04/01 23:35:45.9977 Universal 23:35:49 Hmm... by *ahem*TC it is 23:35:57 try again 23:36:03 try what again? 23:36:06 hey, how come it didn't yell @ xena 23:36:13 it loves xena 23:36:23 ooh, it doesn't catch capital U 23:36:27 right 23:36:32 it's still april fools in UTC 23:36:42 * AaronSw is away: dinner 23:37:01 * sbp wonders if he shoUld consider capital U cheating 23:37:15 only if it is not alone 23:37:25 (eg shoUld) 23:37:49 as in \SU\S? 23:37:55 yes 23:38:03 right. I'll add it to the next version 23:38:13 (same for \x75, IMO) 23:38:45 well, that's good for getting a nickname-with-forbidden-character's score 23:39:07 wha? 23:39:21 for example, score Morb\x75s 23:39:48 no i mean if it is alone it should not count 23:39:48 redmonk: you employed the forbidden character! 23:39:53 shit 23:40:04 \s\x75\s 23:40:50 ? that means that it'd trigger off CharBot if it *was* in a word, so it's besides the point of having it, right? 23:41:06 Grmgrpmgprmgpmgh 23:41:17 conversation is so tricky sans that character :-) 23:41:41 it shoUld trigger charbot as it does now, except when alone, as with U 23:42:03 yes 23:42:21 then we can't get Morb's score by itself 23:42:34 y not? 23:42:51 well, how? 23:42:53 oh you mean morbUs 23:42:54 redmonk: you employed the forbidden character! 23:43:07 indeed i did, bit-bag 23:43:59 perhaps the opposite of U? 23:44:06 i.e. trigger when not in a word? 23:44:17 hm. 23:44:25 which is a bit pointless 23:44:27 dinna know 23:45:10 still, if we ban it, then we can't display Morb's score by itself. That's my only concern. then again, I don't know why that is an exception to the r^Hlaw 23:45:25 exactly 23:45:47 can one ask charbot for detail on morb\x75s? 23:45:55 yep 23:46:00 k then 23:46:04 ban it 23:46:05 CharBot, detail Morb\x75s 23:46:06 I don't have a score for Morb\x75s 23:46:33 so what I did is henceforth banned, right? 23:46:49 yeah 23:47:17 and to look for the score of someone with a forbidden character in their nickname, they have to do CharBot, scores 23:49:27 Hmm... record stints'd be a nice thing to have, too: i.e. the longest that anyone has ever abstained from the char. 23:49:53 heh. 23:49:58 then, even someone who's totally smegged their score can go for a stint 23:49:59 Abstinence. 23:50:48 Haven't ya heard? Abstinence doesn't work. Only Safe Typing works. 23:50:54 heh, heh 23:51:54 I want to do 10,000 characters sans the forbidden one! 23:53:02 talli has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 23:53:42 I wonder if one can map the key to a wav noise, so that when it's typed, the system can say, "aaaargh! don't type that character!"? :-) 23:53:56 heh 23:54:11 text-to-speech ;-) 23:55:37 ü almost makes a good replacement. Get rid of the diaresis, and it's done 23:55:53 I wonder if there's a modifier character that removes diacritic marks? 23:56:25 .google modifier character that removes diacritics 23:56:28 modifier character that removes diacritics: http://www.ldc.upenn.edu/exploration/expl2000/papers/constable2/constable2.html 23:56:28 xena: you employed the forbidden character! 23:56:32 heh