IRC log of swhack on 2002-04-01

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01:40:00 [sbp]
sbp has changed the topic to: Here, topic, topic, topic...
01:41:32 [sbp]
g'even', thc
01:42:33 [thc]
'ello there, spb
01:42:45 [sbp]
spb? not even!
01:43:17 [sbp]
anyhoo, welcome (back) to the merry land of swhack
01:43:42 [sbp]
oh man, that has to go in the topic
01:43:54 [sbp]
sbp has changed the topic to: Welcome (back) to the merry land of Swhack
01:44:37 [thc]
rename yourself spb
01:44:44 [thc]
you know you want to
01:44:52 [sbp]
Make me
01:45:22 [thc]
* thc pulls a virtual gun
01:45:39 [sbp]
like rm and his railgun?
01:46:06 [sbp]
[sound of Morbus running screaming into a wall]
01:46:17 [thc]
more like morbus and his duck
01:46:31 [sbp]
duck??? what the splutch?
01:46:53 [thc]
splutch??? what the duck?
01:46:59 [sbp]
heh, heh
01:47:04 [thc]
oops, spelt fuck wrong
01:47:11 [thc]
*cough*
01:47:21 [sbp]
defly done
01:47:48 [thc]
def indeed.
01:47:54 [sbp]
or deftly. So what if we chp a few arbitrary chars out here and ther
01:48:30 [thc]
I'll et yo of
01:48:37 [sbp]
thank
01:49:10 [sbp]
we shold start playing /x70 at this point
01:49:16 [thc]
f ou chag yur nam
01:49:45 [thc]
*sigh* I'm not very good at pursuasive
01:49:59 [thc]
um /x70. No doubt
01:50:00 [sbp]
I agree
01:50:19 [sbp]
in fact, \x70 may have made more sense
01:50:30 [thc]
more sense yes
01:51:02 [thc]
my text editor would recognise it as a character, probably uppercase letter
01:51:07 [sbp]
it's a lipogrammatic game introducted by Morb\x70s, whereby the participants may not enter the character between y and i on a qwerty keyboard
01:51:18 [thc]
ah
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01:52:09 [sbp]
* sbp forgets the alphabet, and decides that the qwerty spread is more well-known than the English alphabet anyway
01:52:21 [thc]
surely one could leet one's way around those characters
01:52:39 [sbp]
yes, that's correct. we spent many a day playing this odd little game
01:52:49 [thc]
Y could be 7, even though they're not so similar
01:53:05 [sbp]
often drifting into chortle-inspiring phrases
01:53:12 [thc]
I see
01:53:33 [sbp]
oh, I didn't get what was meant be "leet"
01:53:44 [thc]
n and u are easily confused
01:53:47 [sbp]
no, the \x70 replacement was crappy
01:53:53 [sbp]
the forbidden character!
01:53:56 [thc]
or maybe coufnsed
01:54:19 [thc]
*hm*?
01:54:35 [sbp]
if a player doed that, said player is IRC-spanked
01:54:42 [thc]
qwert7\/10p
01:54:54 [sbp]
* sbp IRC-spanks thc
01:55:26 [thc]
*hmm*
01:55:36 [sbp]
the characteristic that has been projected by the person called thc on this channel merited my recent IRC-spank action
01:55:39 [thc]
the problem being..?
01:55:55 [thc]
Oh
01:56:02 [sbp]
the problem is that replacements for the forbidden characters are not allowed!
01:56:09 [thc]
:-)
01:56:24 [sbp]
it's only one damn character. not too diffi^H^H^H^H^Hhard to avoid
01:56:52 [thc]
Ah
01:57:15 [sbp]
honestly. we played this game for days. it drove everyone insane in the end. it's all logged
01:57:41 [sbp]
I like. periods. otherwise known f\x70ll. stops.
01:57:53 [thc]
I'm avoiding the letter that phonetics like `the person I'm speaking to`
01:58:04 [sbp]
heh, right
01:58:17 [sbp]
nice new verb there
01:59:09 [thc]
I can't write the standard verb
01:59:12 [thc]
heh
01:59:16 [sbp]
:-)
01:59:45 [thc]
if I were american I might get away with sond
02:00:11 [sbp]
.google \x70 site:blogspace.com Morbii
02:00:12 [xena]
no results found.
02:00:19 [sbp]
.google site:blogspace.com Morbii
02:00:20 [xena]
site:blogspace.com Morbii: http://blogspace.com/swhack/chatlogs/2001-10-13.txt
02:00:33 [sbp]
perfect
02:00:54 [sbp]
heh, heh: "oh, i chortle with belly aching anxiety over the predicament we have entwined each other in
02:00:54 [thc]
I remember morbii coming into the conversation before
02:00:57 [sbp]
" - Morb
02:01:21 [thc]
:-)
02:01:31 [thc]
is laff a word?
02:02:09 [thc]
as in ``'avin' a laff''
02:02:16 [sbp]
heh, heh. no
02:02:22 [redmonk]
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02:02:34 [redmonk]
'lo all
02:02:35 [sbp]
try: chortle, or giggle
02:02:47 [sbp]
hey there redmonk. we've started playing that silly game again
02:02:50 [thc]
*hmm* I wonder if it's normal to apostrophise both ends of a word
02:03:12 [sbp]
ah, yes, it is. those are p\x70nct\x70ation apostrophies
02:03:19 [sbp]
AFAIK
02:03:27 [thc]
yes, they are.
02:03:52 [redmonk]
which silly game?
02:03:56 [sbp]
sorry for the terrible twin employment of the replacement characters, there
02:04:00 [thc]
tho it looks like single <q>s
02:04:16 [sbp]
the one where we avoid a certain character located between t and v in the alphabet
02:04:26 [sbp]
c.f. http://blogspace.com/swhack/chatlogs/2001-10-13.txt
02:04:27 [thc]
yes, I believed replacing characters was wrong?
02:04:32 [sbp]
s/c.f./cf./
02:04:32 [redmonk]
why are we avoiding it
02:04:36 [redmonk]
ah ok
02:04:48 [sbp]
it is... however, I was employing a technical term there
02:05:10 [thc]
I managed to get around the word <q>
02:05:18 [sbp]
I don't know if that's allowable or not. Morb is normally the aritrator of those matters
02:05:42 [thc]
* thc pretends he didn't break a convention there
02:05:48 [sbp]
argh!
02:05:48 [thc]
OK
02:05:54 [sbp]
I almost didn't notice that
02:05:58 [sbp]
-1 thc
02:06:05 [walloper]
<lilo> wopn
02:06:09 [walloper]
<lilo> This is a WALLOPS message for the Open Projects Network. These messages contain non-critical comments and announcements and detailed server admin information. To turn them off, turn off user mode 'w'. On most clients: '/mode <yournick> -w'. Thanks.
02:06:11 [thc]
'almost'?!
02:06:18 [sbp]
almost
02:06:49 [thc]
I told sbp! Sbp didn't notice a thing!
02:06:55 [sbp]
anyway, there's a bit of a Simpsons marathon tomorrow, so I'd better be going
02:06:57 [walloper]
<lilo> Hints and tips on the new server code. (1) +b should now always override +q channel modes. So if you need to ban someone, it will override a 'quiet'. Try not to overuse it. 8)
02:07:04 [AaronSw]
* AaronSw waves
02:07:08 [redmonk]
hi aaron
02:07:11 [thc]
ffs!
02:07:13 [sbp]
don't forget: this channel is logged! I'll know if yall've been cheating
02:07:29 [sbp]
like I just did
02:07:35 [walloper]
<lilo> the REMOVE command is now no longer an "experimental" command. Format is the same as KICK: /quote remove #channel nick :reason
02:07:49 [AaronSw]
hello. i deleted webobjects, yet my retrospect operation still has not completed
02:08:07 [sbp]
heh, heh
02:08:10 [AaronSw]
but what does REMOVE do?
02:08:22 [sbp]
same as kick, perhaps? :-)
02:08:30 [sbp]
anyway...
02:08:31 [sbp]
Gotta engage myself in a forwards motion, moving with swift steps
02:08:36 [AaronSw]
maybe it's a kickban
02:08:37 [AaronSw]
:-)
02:08:40 [walloper]
<lilo> [erm, consider that (2) :)] REMOVE does a part with a uniquely identifiable part message, instead of telling the user they've been KICKed. If you need to remove someone from a channel, try using REMOVE. It's a lot less disruptive.
02:09:07 [AaronSw]
Um, ok...
02:09:11 [AaronSw]
oops
02:09:26 [AaronSw]
shoot, i lost so soon
02:10:14 [walloper]
<lilo> (3) We've added a channel mode, +g, which affects the semantics of the INVITE command. Without +g the behavior is RFC1459-compliant; only channel operators can INVITE. With +g turned on, you get the old behavior, and anyone on the channel can INVITE. So take your pick. :)
02:11:23 [thc]
:)
02:11:53 [thc]
It can be very easy to hit that letter withnot noticing it
02:12:11 [AaronSw]
maybe sbp will forgive me
02:12:29 [AaronSw]
* AaronSw tries to find a way to +g the channel
02:12:39 [walloper]
<lilo> It's also worth noting that it should no longer be possible to INVITE someone before the channel goes +i and have the invitation persist. Sorry kiddies, that exploit is gone. *sighrin*
02:13:17 [kickMe]
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02:13:47 [kickMe]
hi
02:13:49 [walloper]
<lilo> Let us know if it's still broken but I think you'll find it's been plugged....anyway, those are the highlights, other than netburst length reduced by about 25%. Thanks for listening to WALLOPS and thank you for using OPN! :)
02:13:50 [thc]
hello
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02:15:44 [thc]
*hmm* so can aaron (search again) that *anyone* leave this channel?
02:15:51 [thc]
(search again) = ask
02:16:03 [AaronSw]
yep, i'm an op
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02:17:13 [AaronSw]
cool
02:17:53 [thc]
Oh :) evidently
02:18:33 [thc]
I didn't relate it to 'kick', for some reason, since it said req... the 'ask' word
02:18:49 [AaronSw]
:-)
02:18:56 [AaronSw]
it's polite kind of kick
02:19:23 [thc]
how sweet :-)
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02:21:09 [thc]
*hmm* my new debian seems to dislike /dev/fd0
02:22:03 [AaronSw]
ooh, octothorpe is a nice word lacking the forbidden letter
02:22:24 [AaronSw]
* AaronSw is away: dinner
02:22:25 [redmonk]
octothorpe?
02:22:31 [AaronSw]
aka #
02:22:31 [thc]
maybe I shall go and pester for help
02:22:38 [AaronSw]
.wn octothorpe
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02:51:46 [tch]
if I didn't know better I would say my floppy drive is funny
02:52:25 [tch]
if I didn't know better I might say my floppy drive is dead
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* AaronSw watches TPM DVD
03:06:25 [AaronSw]
wow, cool THX bit
03:06:59 [davb]
TPM?
03:07:03 [davb]
nm :)
03:07:55 [AaronSw]
The Phantom Menace!
03:09:22 [tch]
* tch cringes
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04:40:52 [AaronSw]
</cableModem>
04:41:02 [AaronSw]
<cableModem>
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06:14:09 [AaronSw]
pigeonrank!
06:14:19 [AaronSw]
http://www.google.com/technology/pigeonrank.html
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10:32:48 [sbp]
<AaronSw> maybe sbp will forgive me
10:32:50 [sbp]
nope
10:32:54 [sbp]
sorry. -1 to Aaron
10:33:42 [sbp]
* sbp reads pigeonrank
10:34:22 [sbp]
Heh. I like the data
11:07:53 [sbp]
'tis \x75, BTW
11:43:59 [CharBot]
CharBot (~sbp@m750-mp1-cvx3b.pop.ntl.com) has joined #swhack
11:44:05 [sbp]
CharBot, initialize!
11:44:05 [CharBot]
I have initialized
11:44:11 [sbp]
CharBot, what are ya?
11:44:12 [CharBot]
I'm an \x75 bot: telling people off when they employ that character
11:44:12 [CharBot]
To get the score of someone: CharBot, score x
11:44:12 [CharBot]
To get the highest (lowest) score: CharBot, highscore?
11:44:18 [sbp]
right
11:44:34 [sbp]
CharBot, highscore?
11:44:35 [CharBot]
No highest score, yet
11:45:32 [sbp]
Hmm... I'd better register it
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13:04:25 [walloper]
<lilo> Link compression testing, one baby netsplit.
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13:38:27 [walloper]
<lilo> Hi all. Just a reminder. Most places on the planet we are well-into April 1, which some regard as the holiday "April Fool's Day"....expect inaccurate and distorted information from major and minor news sources. The effect should end in about 19 hours maximum.
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14:20:04 [AaronSw]
where's charbot?
14:22:06 [AaronSw]
lol!
14:22:07 [AaronSw]
@ http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/28/24652.html
14:22:48 [chumpster]
A: http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/28/24652.html from AaronSw
14:22:59 [AaronSw]
A:|You've got Blogs! AOL buys into homegrown media
14:23:16 [chumpster]
titled item A
14:23:23 [AaronSw]
A::More information at [AOL/Scripting New|http://www.scripting.com/].
14:23:39 [chumpster]
commented item A
14:29:11 [kham]
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14:29:34 [kham]
good morning all
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14:36:29 [redmonk]
morn'n
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14:36:42 [redmonk]
oops
14:38:00 [AaronSw]
cool: http://music.kagi.com/?MP3
14:42:08 [redmonk]
that IS cool
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14:48:48 [AaronSw]
yahoo opt-out: http://subscribe.yahoo.com/showaccount
14:48:51 [AaronSw]
(hopefully, no joke)
14:48:58 [AaronSw]
@ http://subscribe.yahoo.com/showaccount
14:49:05 [AaronSw]
@ http://music.kagi.com/?MP3
14:49:25 [chumpster]
B: http://subscribe.yahoo.com/showaccount from AaronSw
14:49:51 [AaronSw]
B:|Opt-Out of Yahoo Delivers spam, junk mail and telemarketing
14:49:53 [chumpster]
C: http://music.kagi.com/?MP3 from AaronSw
14:50:10 [chumpster]
titled item B
14:50:21 [AaronSw]
C:|TWEAK: Tipping Worldwide Entertainment Artists via Kagi
14:50:21 [AaronSw]
C::Kagi finds the artists while making money off the interest.
14:50:37 [chumpster]
titled item C
14:50:54 [chumpster]
commented item C
14:51:55 [redmonk]
I did not see how kagi gets the $$$ to the artists
14:52:21 [AaronSw]
they hire people to search the artists out
14:52:52 [redmonk]
cool
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15:22:29 [AaronSw]
char, fluck off
15:22:30 [CharBot]
AaronSw: you employed the forbidden character!
15:22:35 [AaronSw]
;-)
15:22:43 [AaronSw]
.wn fluck
15:22:44 [CharBot]
AaronSw: you employed the forbidden character!
15:22:53 [AaronSw]
* AaronSw is away: school
15:22:59 [AaronSw]
* AaronSw u
15:23:00 [CharBot]
AaronSw: you employed the forbidden character!
15:23:02 [AaronSw]
* AaronSw is away: school
15:23:13 [redmonk]
hehe
15:23:18 [redmonk]
charbot is cuul
15:23:18 [CharBot]
redmonk: you employed the forbidden character!
15:26:09 [redmonk]
heeh
15:26:26 [redmonk]
u
15:26:26 [CharBot]
redmonk: you employed the forbidden character!
15:26:32 [redmonk]
too fun
15:26:32 [CharBot]
redmonk: you employed the forbidden character!
15:26:44 [redmonk]
someone had way too much time on their hands
15:26:44 [CharBot]
redmonk: you employed the forbidden character!
15:26:50 [redmonk]
d'oh!
15:29:11 [sbp]
CharBot, highscore?
15:29:12 [CharBot]
redmonk has the worst score: -4
15:29:16 [sbp]
heh, heh
15:29:25 [redmonk]
tada!!
15:29:40 [redmonk]
who da man?
15:29:49 [sbp]
redmonk da man!
15:29:54 [redmonk]
heh
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CharBot has quit (Killed (NickServ (Ghost: SeanP!sbp@m385-mp1-cvx3b.pop.ntl.com)))
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15:33:34 [sbp]
Morb! welcome
15:35:12 [redmonk]
heeh. Morb*sIff
15:49:58 [sbp]
Yeah... however, it's too easy to stop speaking when inadvertantly reaching the forbidden character. OTOH, nicks are kinda exempt
15:52:17 [sbp]
oh, we have a +g now!
15:52:29 [eikeon]
u
15:52:30 [CharBot]
eikeon: you employed the forbidden character!
15:52:48 [eikeon]
Checking... was not s re :)
15:53:53 [sbp]
s re?
15:54:33 [sbp]
Pff, deleting the forbidden character (replacing it with a space)... that's low
15:55:09 [eikeon]
Did not want to employ the forbidden character again... gotta start somewhere ;)
15:55:10 [sbp]
CharBot may have an IRC-spank method added in the time after the present
15:55:24 [sbp]
Blargh
15:55:55 [sbp]
I also need some command to print the list of scores, really
15:56:40 [sbp]
however, there might be a fair few entries, and I don't really want to messize the channel
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15:58:51 [sbp]
Hmm... It'd need to check words against a dictionary...
16:05:35 [sbp]
rm: in fact, CharBot was rather easy to hack. it only took all of half of one of those things that's comprised of 3600 seconds
16:06:34 [sbp]
Hmm... rather less than that, even. 1000 seconds?
16:06:47 [sbp]
.tavtime
16:06:47 [xena]
2321.18.00.07.09
16:07:32 [redmonk]
* redmonk thinks sbp is working way too hard on this non-employment-of-a-certain-vowel thing
16:08:47 [sbp]
nah
16:09:54 [sbp]
* sbp lobbies to have the character removed from (the newly renamed) Nicode
16:10:03 [eikeon]
lol
16:35:18 [redmonk]
sbp: charbot needs a new command: char
16:35:23 [redmonk]
which returns
16:35:23 [CharBot]
redmonk: you employed the forbidden character!
16:35:27 [redmonk]
t*v
16:35:46 [redmonk]
or a*c
16:35:50 [redmonk]
you get the idea
16:35:50 [CharBot]
redmonk: you employed the forbidden character!
16:35:58 [redmonk]
yeah yeah
16:36:03 [redmonk]
sh*t *p
16:36:16 [redmonk]
charbot, highscore?
16:36:24 [redmonk]
charbot, highscore
16:36:29 [redmonk]
charbot highscore
16:36:35 [redmonk]
ffind
16:36:37 [redmonk]
finee
16:36:40 [redmonk]
ignore me
16:37:18 [redmonk]
CharBot, highscore?
16:37:19 [CharBot]
redmonk has the worst score: -6
16:37:39 [sbp]
heh, heh
16:38:03 [redmonk]
darn case sensitivity
16:39:32 [sbp]
It may have been set to (?i)
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* AaronSw-library waves from Lake Forest library
17:14:31 [AaronSw-library]
via MindTerm Java SSH! woo!
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17:16:09 [AaronSw-library]
notZakim, remind me in 60 minutes to catch the train
17:16:09 [notZakim]
ok, AaronSw-library
17:16:40 [AaronSw-library]
AaronSw-library has changed the topic to: A verry merry fools day!
17:21:51 [redmonk]
notZakim, remind me in 2 minutes not to use the letter yoo
17:21:52 [notZakim]
I don't understand the last part of that, redmonk; about what am I supposed to remind you?
17:21:56 [redmonk]
hehe
17:22:12 [redmonk]
notZakim, remind me in 2 minutes to not use the letter yoo
17:22:12 [notZakim]
ok, redmonk
17:22:19 [redmonk]
oops
17:22:30 [redmonk]
i yoosed it anyway
17:22:34 [redmonk]
hehe
17:22:59 [AaronSw-library]
where's charbot when you need him?
17:23:05 [AaronSw-library]
oops
17:23:06 [AaronSw-library]
:)
17:23:56 [AaronSw-library]
this applet rocks
17:24:09 [redmonk]
sweet
17:24:11 [notZakim]
redmonk, you asked to be reminded at this time to not use the letter yoo
17:24:22 [redmonk]
coool!
17:24:31 [redmonk]
notZakim rocks
17:26:53 [AaronSw-library]
NYTimes: "" argh... can't paste
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17:27:38 [AaronSw-library]
"In this world [...] a $2,200 faucet gets the kind of lavish lighting and styling treatment that used to be reserved for skinny 17-year old models."
17:29:40 [AaronSw-library]
then some magazine writer calls me a liar for claiming that i actually (gasp!) read the New Yorker.
17:29:58 [redmonk]
calls you?
17:31:57 [AaronSw-library]
well, everyone who claims to actually read long magazine stories
17:32:06 [redmonk]
ahhhh
17:32:14 [AaronSw-library]
Brent: the only poem I can remember the beginning to is one with made-up words (Jabberwocky).
17:32:16 [AaronSw-library]
Same here.
17:32:22 [redmonk]
same here
17:32:28 [redmonk]
i loved that poem
17:32:43 [redmonk]
"his vorpal sword went snicker snak!"
17:34:42 [AaronSw-library]
:-)
17:34:55 [AaronSw-library]
my machines are named vorpal and snicker-snack
17:35:01 [redmonk]
i did not miss that.
17:35:03 [redmonk]
;-)
17:35:30 [AaronSw-library]
.google logicerror vorpal snicker-snack
17:35:31 [xena]
logicerror vorpal snicker-snack: http://logicerror.com/serverGunk
17:36:43 [AaronSw-library]
@ http://www.google.com/technology/pigeonrank.html
17:37:21 [chumpster]
D: http://www.google.com/technology/pigeonrank.html from AaronSw-library
17:37:34 [AaronSw-library]
D:|The secret behind Google's amazing accuracy
17:37:50 [chumpster]
titled item D
17:42:25 [AaronSw-library]
lol! @ HTP msg 7333
17:43:10 [AaronSw-library]
@ http://www.applestudentdevelopers.org/
17:43:42 [chumpster]
E: http://www.applestudentdevelopers.org/ from AaronSw-library
17:44:10 [AaronSw-library]
E:|Apple Student Developers (dot org)
17:44:26 [AaronSw-library]
E::They're even holding an iPod breakout contest
17:44:27 [chumpster]
titled item E
17:44:44 [chumpster]
commented item E
17:45:18 [redmonk]
need some cvs help
17:45:31 [redmonk]
what's the process for branching?
17:45:58 [redmonk]
i need to be able to update a library in it'c current compileable state, while adding a host of enw features
17:46:06 [redmonk]
that won't be compilable for a while
17:46:51 [AaronSw-library]
hm, dunno. there are some good cvs guides ont he web, tho
17:46:59 [redmonk]
k
17:47:11 [redmonk]
anyone try out teoma yet?
17:47:27 [AaronSw-library]
teoma?
17:47:31 [redmonk]
what's the idea behind the topic links?
17:47:47 [redmonk]
http://www.teoma.com/
17:47:57 [redmonk]
google competitor
17:48:41 [redmonk]
hm. they've put up a new design, and aren't showing the topic links anymore.
17:48:44 [redmonk]
interesting
17:50:15 [AaronSw-library]
hm
17:50:47 [redmonk]
nevermind i guess - earlier today they still had topical links at the top of the results page
17:51:01 [AaronSw-library]
yeah, i've seen that before
17:51:13 [redmonk]
like they're tring to determine relevant topics to your search
17:51:21 [redmonk]
but i was not too impressed with tht results.
17:51:28 [redmonk]
maybe that's why they took it down
17:51:56 [AaronSw-library]
is it just me or is treedragon.com down?
17:52:01 [AaronSw-library]
.dns treedragon.com
17:52:01 [xena]
treedragon.com - error: host not found
17:52:07 [AaronSw-library]
.dns www.treedragon.com
17:52:08 [xena]
www.treedragon.com - error: host not found
17:52:08 [redmonk]
same here
17:53:28 [AaronSw-library]
.whois treedragon.com
17:53:28 [xena]
TREEDRAGON.COM registered to nobody expires on eriSign Registrar WHOIS database is provided by VeriSign for
17:53:47 [AaronSw-library]
notZakim, test
17:53:47 [notZakim]
I don't understand 'test', AaronSw-library. Try /msg notZakim help
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17:56:03 [redmonk]
sup morb
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18:02:26 [walloper]
<miro> :Nu om 20.00 Live chatmeeting over oprichten openstandaardenvereniging (#openstandaarden)
18:06:04 [walloper]
<miro> :There will be a meeting about Open Standards (in dutch) -> (#openstandaarden)
18:14:57 [AaronSw-library]
better go catch train home. laters
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18:16:09 [notZakim]
AaronSw-library, you asked to be reminded at this time to catch the train
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19:24:26 [AaronSw]
</cableModem>
19:24:28 [AaronSw]
oops
19:24:30 [AaronSw]
<cableModem>
19:24:32 [AaronSw]
i accidentally knocked out my connection
19:24:58 [Morbus]
plug it back in! plug it back in.
19:25:09 [Morbus]
you're getting blurry!
19:25:19 [AaronSw]
it's back
19:25:19 [Morbus]
jiggle the wires! man the antenna! woman the scsi!
19:25:56 [AaronSw]
but now my power adapter isn't working
19:26:06 [Morbus]
see above!
19:26:20 [talli]
AaronSw: do you know about apt-rpm?
19:26:41 [AaronSw]
yes
19:26:51 [AaronSw]
i found it to be problematic on my redhat systems
19:26:53 [talli]
why not install it on calliope?
19:26:55 [talli]
oh yeah?
19:27:15 [AaronSw]
packages were hard to find and connections were slow and things weren't updated very often
19:27:21 [AaronSw]
up2date is much better for redhat, imo
19:27:26 [talli]
yes, i have noticed that it's not totally complete
19:27:33 [talli]
and up2date is pretty nice
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19:27:38 [talli]
but it's not totally free
19:27:49 [AaronSw]
not libre, no, but it is gratis
19:27:54 [talli]
and it uses apt, which is nice
19:28:03 [AaronSw]
up2date?
19:28:08 [talli]
teah
19:28:09 [talli]
yeah
19:28:11 [talli]
up2date
19:28:14 [AaronSw]
um, don't think so
19:28:18 [talli]
i meant apt-rpm
19:28:21 [AaronSw]
:-)
19:28:49 [AaronSw]
heh: <simpsons:homer expletive="doh!">Replying to my own email like an idiot... again</simpsons:homer>
19:30:26 [talli]
that's a good one AaronSw
19:30:29 [talli]
you must be getting old
19:30:36 [talli]
memory is the first thing to go, you know
19:30:41 [AaronSw]
i didn't write it, just copied and pasted it
19:30:54 [AaronSw]
from a message from someone else
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20:12:32 [AaronSw]
TimBL: (written a week ago ... I have a problem pressing send)
20:13:09 [sbp]
that was written two weeks ago, now
20:13:23 [sbp]
don't y'ever check mail?
20:13:41 [AaronSw]
yeah, but not list mail
20:13:42 [CharBot]
AaronSw: you employed the forbidden character!
20:13:48 [AaronSw]
shut up
20:13:49 [CharBot]
AaronSw: you employed the forbidden character!
20:13:59 [AaronSw]
CharBot, high score?
20:14:35 [sbp]
CharBot, highscore?
20:14:35 [AaronSw]
sbp, where's that RDF-in-XHTML thing?
20:14:35 [CharBot]
redmonk has the worst score: -6
20:14:43 [AaronSw]
* AaronSw almost said stuff
20:14:44 [CharBot]
AaronSw: you employed the forbidden character!
20:14:49 [sbp]
on www-tag. the minutes
20:14:49 [CharBot]
sbp: you employed the forbidden character!
20:14:52 [sbp]
crap"
20:15:12 [Morbus]
whoa, we have a CharBot? kickass.
20:15:25 [sbp]
the damn thing got me
20:15:29 [AaronSw]
:-)
20:15:34 [AaronSw]
it gets annoying quickly
20:15:35 [CharBot]
AaronSw: you employed the forbidden character!
20:15:40 [AaronSw]
um, i mean fast!
20:15:41 [CharBot]
AaronSw: you employed the forbidden character!
20:15:46 [sbp]
Aaron: S'mmary of 1 April 2002 TAG teleconference
20:15:56 [sbp]
yeah, it is annoying
20:16:12 [sbp]
however, we all stink for not being able to avoid the character
20:16:12 [AaronSw]
especially with text-to-speech
20:16:31 [sbp]
I'd make it say "ha ha!" if it'd help
20:17:13 [sbp]
I need to have it print scores... hang on
20:17:15 [CharBot]
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20:18:54 [sbp]
CharBot, scores?
20:18:55 [CharBot]
{'AaronSw': -8, 'redmonk': -6, 'sbp': -1, 'eikeon': -1}
20:19:12 [AaronSw]
negative eight?!
20:19:16 [redmonk]
haha! i'm no longer the worst offender!
20:19:22 [sbp]
heh, heh
20:19:48 [sbp]
Aaron needs to prise the key from his keyboard
20:20:16 [redmonk]
silly brits: "pry"
20:20:30 [AaronSw]
more like unplug
20:20:31 [CharBot]
AaronSw: you employed the forbidden character!
20:20:32 [AaronSw]
* AaronSw ducks
20:20:33 [CharBot]
AaronSw: you employed the forbidden character!
20:20:48 [AaronSw]
now i need to try and work the letter u into every sentence
20:20:48 [CharBot]
AaronSw: you employed the forbidden character!
20:21:24 [redmonk]
heh
20:22:03 [redmonk]
sbp: give chatbot the ability to recognize when he's being baited
20:22:38 [sbp]
chatbot?
20:22:44 [redmonk]
the char with whitespace for and aft;-)
20:22:48 [redmonk]
charbot
20:22:59 [sbp]
baited: good idea
20:23:38 [redmonk]
nyah nyah aaron - have to work harder ;-)
20:24:01 [sbp]
Aaron's going to bork it soon: I'll have to employ longs
20:24:08 [AaronSw]
* AaronSw giggles
20:24:24 [redmonk]
heh
20:24:36 [AaronSw]
it might be better deriving scores by percentage, rather than straight incrementing
20:24:44 [sbp]
right
20:25:04 [sbp]
however, I wasn't clear on how to achieve that
20:25:18 [redmonk]
what initially determined the forbidden character?
20:25:23 [AaronSw]
morbii
20:25:27 [sbp]
forbidden characters per set of total characrers, perhaps?
20:25:31 [sbp]
yep
20:25:36 [redmonk]
cool
20:25:38 [sbp]
.google site:blogspace.com Morbii
20:25:39 [xena]
site:blogspace.com Morbii: http://blogspace.com/swhack/chatlogs/2001-10-13.txt
20:25:45 [sbp]
from the top
20:25:47 [AaronSw]
ah, that'd be good. i was thinking lines of text but characters is better.
20:25:48 [CharBot]
AaronSw: you employed the forbidden character!
20:25:55 [AaronSw]
urgh
20:25:57 [CharBot]
AaronSw: you employed the forbidden character!
20:26:14 [AaronSw]
people don't see it in prepositions and grnts like that
20:26:14 [sbp]
heh, yo\x75 really s\x75ck at this
20:26:28 [AaronSw]
CharBot, sbp.score += 2
20:26:32 [redmonk]
yep
20:26:58 [redmonk]
yeah, charbot needs to "see" all forms of TFC
20:26:59 [sbp]
CharBot, u big dipstick
20:26:59 [CharBot]
sbp: you employed the forbidden character!
20:27:10 [sbp]
I did deserve it
20:27:20 [sbp]
right. I need to implement per character
20:27:27 [sbp]
because Aaron's a bigmouth
20:27:28 [CharBot]
sbp: you employed the forbidden character!
20:27:33 [sbp]
damn right I did
20:27:37 [redmonk]
D'OH!
20:27:49 [sbp]
final scores...
20:27:54 [sbp]
CharBot, scores?
20:27:55 [CharBot]
{'AaronSw': -13, 'redmonk': -6, 'sbp': -3, 'eikeon': -1}
20:27:57 [CharBot]
CharBot has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer))
20:28:03 [sbp]
O.K. Now to rehack
20:29:10 [sbp]
Hmm... this is going to be a bit arsey
20:29:43 [AaronSw]
just keep two records for everyone: total chars and forbidden chars
20:30:04 [sbp]
right, but I'm picling so as to keep a persistent record
20:30:07 [redmonk]
that'd work
20:30:16 [sbp]
which means I'll have to open, load, and store for each line
20:30:37 [AaronSw]
why not pickle only on q_it?
20:30:42 [redmonk]
why not load on logon, and store on logoff
20:30:49 [redmonk]
heh
20:30:54 [sbp]
because it doesn't quit softly
20:30:58 [AaronSw]
and why are you loading multiple times?
20:31:06 [sbp]
because it doesn't quit softly!
20:31:14 [AaronSw]
what does that have to do with loading?
20:31:43 [sbp]
nothing, I guess...
20:32:11 [AaronSw]
saving every line probably isn't too slow
20:32:19 [AaronSw]
or you could have a charbot, save!
20:32:33 [redmonk]
charbot, save me!
20:32:38 [AaronSw]
or save every x lines
20:34:33 [talli]
AaronSw: when will you be in boston?
20:34:40 [AaronSw]
April 23
20:34:43 [talli]
i am going to set up an oacs social
20:34:46 [talli]
ok, that's a good date
20:34:49 [AaronSw]
ooh, cool!
20:34:53 [davb]
cool!
20:35:05 [redmonk]
cool! (huh?)
20:35:05 [talli]
AaronSw: just the 23rd?
20:35:12 [AaronSw]
yep
20:35:13 [talli]
davb: good thing you're here
20:35:20 [talli]
i was about to ask you in #openacs
20:35:26 [talli]
AaronSw: when are you leaving boston?
20:35:39 [AaronSw]
about 7PM
20:36:10 [talli]
hmmmm... can you make it any lateR?
20:36:20 [AaronSw]
that's the last flight i could find...
20:36:32 [talli]
ah, ok
20:36:49 [talli]
well... i think it should be around 6-9 or so
20:37:00 [talli]
davb: can you make it on the 23rd?
20:37:20 [AaronSw]
davb, you in mass?
20:37:26 [talli]
AaronSw: the social will be at a restaurant called redbones
20:37:44 [AaronSw]
the bbq?
20:37:55 [talli]
yeah, it's a bbq joint
20:38:01 [AaronSw]
.google redbones
20:38:02 [xena]
redbones: http://redbonesbbq.com
20:38:03 [talli]
used to be my psuedo-living room
20:38:39 [talli]
AaronSw: if you want to stick around for the social and you need a place to stay, i can set you up with one
20:38:57 [talli]
lemme know
20:39:00 [AaronSw]
hmmmm
20:39:27 [davb]
talli: i'll try to make it. probably have to go an come back though.
20:39:44 [talli]
ok, if you need a place to crash, i can get you one too
20:39:48 [talli]
ok, i need to go to costco
20:39:53 [talli]
davb, AaronSw: lemme know
20:39:58 [AaronSw]
alright
20:40:05 [talli]
it shouldn't be a prob at all, either way
20:40:07 [talli]
ok, bbl
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20:50:56 [sbp]
there we go
20:51:17 [sbp]
it works pretty similar to before
20:51:33 [sbp]
except now y'can get someone's stats with CharBot, detail x
20:51:54 [sbp]
score gives total characters/forbidden characters
20:52:04 [sbp]
highscore still gives the worst score
20:52:13 [sbp]
the higher the positive number, the worse the score
20:52:14 [CharBot]
sbp: you employed the forbidden character!
20:52:16 [eikeon]
CharBot, detail eikeon
20:52:16 [CharBot]
eikeon details: \x75's: 0; chars: 35
20:52:26 [sbp]
oops
20:52:34 [sbp]
CharBot, score sbp
20:52:35 [CharBot]
sbp has score: 0.00354609929078
20:52:40 [sbp]
there
20:52:41 [eikeon]
Wow... all of 35 chars for eik :)
20:52:47 [sbp]
heh
20:52:53 [eikeon]
CharBot, detail eikeon
20:52:54 [CharBot]
eikeon details: \x75's: 0; chars: 90
20:52:56 [sbp]
CharBot, high score?
20:52:56 [CharBot]
sbp has the worst score: [1, 310]
20:53:02 [sbp]
yeeeeaaah!
20:53:20 [sbp]
Aaron'd be on 15 total score by now
20:53:23 [Morbus]
Charbot, detail Morbus
20:53:23 [CharBot]
Morb\x75s: you employed the forbidden character!
20:53:24 [CharBot]
I don't have a score for Morb\x75s
20:53:30 [Morbus]
bwahahahah
20:53:42 [sbp]
erk
20:53:52 [sbp]
CharBot, detail Morb\x75s
20:53:52 [CharBot]
I don't have a score for Morb\x75s
20:53:55 [Morbus]
heh, i can't be penalized for that one, can I?
20:54:02 [sbp]
damn idiotic bot
20:54:31 [eikeon]
Moohahahahaha... lol
20:54:57 [sbp]
not sure: you should be penalized
20:55:00 [CharBot]
sbp: you employed the forbidden character!
20:55:06 [sbp]
yeah, yeah
20:55:08 [CharBot]
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20:55:20 [sbp]
it's time for Frasier now; I'll fix it when I get back
20:55:31 [sbp]
c'ya
20:57:01 [redmonk]
heh, now that charbot's gone, i can say
20:57:09 [redmonk]
UUUUUUUVulaaaa!!!!
20:57:43 [redmonk]
(cf. Mimi Bobeck fr. Drew Carey)
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21:39:57 [AaronSw]
TODO: update swag.semanticweb.org dns
21:41:52 [AaronSw]
chuckle: <drue> next year, as an april fools joke, slashdot is only going to have serious reporting on totally new issues and only thoroughly fact checked articles and editorials
21:42:08 [sbp]
heh
21:44:51 [AaronSw]
@ http://www.cs.helsinki.fi/linux/linux-kernel/2002-13/0063.html
21:45:18 [chumpster]
F: http://www.cs.helsinki.fi/linux/linux-kernel/2002-13/0063.html from AaronSw
21:45:33 [AaronSw]
F:|Linus resigns from Linux kernel development due to whiny patch submitters
21:45:49 [chumpster]
titled item F
21:46:19 [AaronSw]
F::Possible replacements include Eric S. Raymond. Linus: "ESR has shown on many occasions that he can talk shit and still sound just as convincing as anyone on this list, all the time being completely oblivious to any contrasting viewpoints."
21:46:35 [chumpster]
commented item F
21:54:10 [CharBot]
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the new and improved CharBot!
21:54:30 [sbp]
Hi CharBot
21:54:31 [CharBot]
hi, sbp
21:54:56 [redmonk]
'lo charbot
21:55:06 [redmonk]
can u be baited?
21:55:06 [CharBot]
redmonk: you employed the forbidden character!
21:55:18 [redmonk]
heh. looks like it
21:55:30 [redmonk]
charbot, highscores?
21:55:30 [CharBot]
redmonk has the worst score: \x75s: 1; chars: 65; score: 1.53846153846%%
21:55:40 [redmonk]
heh.
21:56:02 [sbp]
:-)
21:56:20 [redmonk]
no "no-baiting" algorithm yet, eh?
21:56:34 [sbp]
crap, I'd fixed that twin percent crap
21:56:39 [sbp]
not yet, no
21:56:51 [sbp]
I was going to make it say "baiter!"...
21:56:59 [redmonk]
uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu
21:56:59 [CharBot]
redmonk: you employed the forbidden character!
21:57:03 [redmonk]
charbot, highscores?
21:57:04 [CharBot]
redmonk has the worst score: \x75s: 87; chars: 209; score: 41.6267942584%%
21:57:20 [redmonk]
uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu
21:57:20 [redmonk]
uuuuuuuuuuuu
21:57:21 [CharBot]
redmonk: you employed the forbidden character!
21:57:21 [CharBot]
redmonk: you employed the forbidden character!
21:57:26 [redmonk]
charbot, highscores?
21:57:26 [CharBot]
redmonk has the worst score: \x75s: 563; chars: 705; score: 79.8581560284%%
21:57:42 [redmonk]
uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu
21:57:42 [redmonk]
uuuuuuuuuuuu
21:57:42 [CharBot]
redmonk: you employed the forbidden character!
21:57:42 [CharBot]
redmonk: you employed the forbidden character!
21:57:45 [redmonk]
charbot, highscores?
21:57:45 [CharBot]
redmonk has the worst score: \x75s: 1039; chars: 1201; score: 86.5112406328%%
21:57:57 [sbp]
you're just going to be the worst forever now
21:57:57 [CharBot]
sbp: you employed the forbidden character!
21:58:00 [sbp]
crap
21:58:05 [redmonk]
ha!
21:58:08 [CharBot]
CharBot has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer))
21:58:16 [redmonk]
cheater!!!
21:58:20 [AaronSw]
sbp messes with the records now...
21:58:38 [sbp]
Hmm... might do
21:58:40 [redmonk]
he'll take out his 1, and leave me with 506
21:58:46 [sbp]
ooh, good idea!
21:58:51 [redmonk]
oh 1039
22:00:43 [CharBot]
CharBot (~sbp@m101-mp1-cvx3b.pop.ntl.com) has joined #swhack
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CharBot, highest score?
22:01:11 [CharBot]
sbp, and CharBot have the worst score: [0, 43]
22:01:21 [AaronSw]
what's [0, 43] mean?
22:01:36 [AaronSw]
and what's with "sbp, and"?
22:01:42 [sbp]
heh, don't worry: it does a bit odd when no one has said the forbidden character yet
22:01:52 [sbp]
* sbp can't be bothered to recode that bit
22:01:56 [AaronSw]
"it does a bit odd"?
22:02:01 [sbp]
er... goes
22:02:15 [redmonk]
heh.
22:02:22 [redmonk]
sbp goes a bit odd...
22:02:31 [redmonk]
* redmonk goes a bit odd
22:03:00 [sbp]
[0]: forbidden characters, [1]: characters in total
22:03:55 [AaronSw]
heh! http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2002/debian-devel-200203/msg02337.html
22:04:00 [AaronSw]
@ http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2002/debian-devel-200203/msg02337.html
22:04:02 [redmonk]
that might be better expressed
22:04:06 [redmonk]
[0/43]
22:04:36 [chumpster]
G: http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2002/debian-devel-200203/msg02337.html from AaronSw
22:04:46 [AaronSw]
G:|New Debian Package: rootkit
22:04:49 [sbp]
naaaaah
22:05:03 [chumpster]
titled item G
22:05:20 [sbp]
it might be better expressed as the percentage, however, it won't matter when somebody makes an error
22:05:32 [sbp]
if anybody makes an error, at this rate...
22:05:54 [sbp]
* sbp wonders if topics will prompt it
22:06:57 [AaronSw]
@ http://www.stepwise.com/Articles/Editorial/2002-04-01.01.html
22:07:26 [sbp]
Hmm... people can cheat by adding lots of random text-the forbidden character to the channel, so making their percentage smaller
22:07:28 [chumpster]
H: http://www.stepwise.com/Articles/Editorial/2002-04-01.01.html from AaronSw
22:07:42 [AaronSw]
H:|Mac OS X Hidden Secrets Revealed
22:07:58 [chumpster]
titled item H
22:08:08 [AaronSw]
H::including new compiler directive "--dwimnwis (Do what I mean not what I said)"
22:08:10 [CharBot]
AaronSw: you employed the forbidden character!
22:08:24 [chumpster]
commented item H
22:08:35 [AaronSw]
oops
22:09:30 [Morbus]
Charbot, scores?
22:09:30 [CharBot]
{'sbp': [0, 552], 'redmonk': [0, 84], 'CharBot': [0, 18], 'AaronSw': [1, 437], 'Morbus': [0, 16]}
22:09:38 [AaronSw]
H::"This notification is sent by NSProcessInfo whenever the kernel is nervous, but before it actually panics. This allows the receiver of the notification to do things to minimize the likelihood of a kernel panic affecting its process."
22:09:39 [CharBot]
AaronSw: you employed the forbidden character!
22:09:45 [AaronSw]
i was q_oting!
22:09:54 [chumpster]
commented item H
22:10:07 [sbp]
you still employed it. reification, smayification
22:10:07 [CharBot]
sbp: you employed the forbidden character!
22:10:11 [Morbus]
Charbot, explain Morbus
22:10:12 [CharBot]
Morb\x75s: you employed the forbidden character!
22:10:12 [sbp]
crap
22:10:17 [Morbus]
Charbot, detail Morbus
22:10:17 [CharBot]
Morb\x75s: you employed the forbidden character!
22:10:17 [CharBot]
Morb\x75s details: \x75s: 2; chars: 61
22:10:27 [Morbus]
* Morbus grumbles.
22:10:27 [CharBot]
Morb\x75s: you employed the forbidden character!
22:10:29 [Morbus]
hehehe.
22:10:34 [sbp]
Charbot, detail Morb\x75s
22:10:35 [CharBot]
Morb\x75s details: \x75s: 3; chars: 87
22:10:38 [sbp]
there
22:10:52 [Morbus]
oh yeah, that's many times better.
22:11:03 [redmonk]
very cool, sbp
22:11:06 [redmonk]
well done
22:11:11 [AaronSw]
H::"NSInputManagerUserDidSomethingParticularlyStupidNotification This notification occurs when the user does something particularly stupid. A common use of this notification is to unexpectedly quit, just to teach the user a lesson."
22:11:11 [CharBot]
AaronSw: you employed the forbidden character!
22:11:16 [sbp]
* sbp senses sarcasm
22:11:21 [AaronSw]
I was quoting!
22:11:22 [CharBot]
AaronSw: you employed the forbidden character!
22:11:27 [chumpster]
commented item H
22:11:28 [AaronSw]
I was "quoting"
22:11:29 [CharBot]
AaronSw: you employed the forbidden character!
22:11:35 [sbp]
poor Aaron
22:11:38 [Morbus]
no, you were not doing that.
22:11:39 [CharBot]
Morb\x75s: you employed the forbidden character!
22:11:45 [sbp]
CharBot, highscore?
22:11:46 [CharBot]
CharBot has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer))
22:11:50 [sbp]
feck!
22:11:51 [AaronSw]
* AaronSw giggles
22:11:54 [redmonk]
heh - the best way to avoid ETFC is to keep silent ;-)
22:11:55 [Morbus]
you were... .. "transcribing text already written"
22:11:57 [AaronSw]
* AaronSw gurgles
22:12:24 [AaronSw]
redmonk!
22:12:26 [AaronSw]
"WOECommerce. privateframework
22:12:27 [AaronSw]
This is the answer to the perennial question, "Why didn't Apple provide WebObjects developers with a set of classes such that I could simply put my logo in the project, then link against a framework, and it would automatically start up, find out what database I'm using, figure out what the products are, how to present them to the customer in direct actions, provide a shopping cart which would immediately start a session, determine the customer's credit limit
22:12:27 [AaronSw]
erver and deployment for me so I can then charge my client $500,000 for figuring out how to add my logo in step 1?" This is the first of a series of D2W (Direct To Wallet) frameworks Apple has developed with the generous assistance of David K. Every.
22:12:28 [AaronSw]
"
22:13:18 [redmonk]
saw thAt.
22:13:21 [redmonk]
awesome
22:13:36 [redmonk]
kind of DKE to help with that ;-)
22:13:38 [CharBot]
CharBot (~sbp@m101-mp1-cvx3b.pop.ntl.com) has joined #swhack
22:13:42 [sbp]
CharBot, highscore?
22:13:43 [CharBot]
Morbus has the worst score: \x75s: 4; chars: 149; score: 2.68456375839%
22:14:00 [sbp]
damnit
22:14:27 [CharBot]
CharBot has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer))
22:14:29 [redmonk]
need to trim that to two decimal places
22:14:53 [sbp]
well, I think it may go further
22:15:08 [CharBot]
CharBot (~sbp@m101-mp1-cvx3b.pop.ntl.com) has joined #swhack
22:15:15 [sbp]
CharBot, highscore?
22:15:15 [CharBot]
Morb\x75s has the worst score: \x75s: 4; chars: 149; score: 2.68456375839%
22:15:30 [sbp]
that's better. fancy violating its own r... law
22:15:40 [redmonk]
heh.
22:15:43 [redmonk]
almost...
22:16:13 [redmonk]
i'm... shocked it did not go into an infinite loop there
22:16:26 [sbp]
yep. that's why it doesn't recognize its own
22:16:31 [redmonk]
heh
22:17:23 [sbp]
it's the ircsync norm.
22:18:20 [sbp]
s/ircsync/ircasync/
22:19:04 [CharBot]
CharBot has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer))
22:19:20 [sbp]
heh, I made a small error there...
22:20:34 [CharBot]
CharBot (~sbp@m101-mp1-cvx3b.pop.ntl.com) has joined #swhack
22:22:04 [redmonk]
'lo again, ya simpering, char-checking bag-o-bits
22:22:30 [sbp]
hey charbot
22:22:30 [CharBot]
hi, sbp
22:24:07 [sbp]
weird: CharBot is tallying itself!
22:25:38 [sbp]
heh. this is the most annoying bot I think I've ever written. and spankybot was pretty annoying
22:25:46 [AaronSw]
@ http://www.npr.org/programs/atc/features/2002/apr/pethealthcare/index.html
22:25:47 [CharBot]
AaronSw: you employed the forbidden character!
22:26:20 [chumpster]
I: http://www.npr.org/programs/atc/features/2002/apr/pethealthcare/index.html from AaronSw
22:26:27 [AaronSw]
I:|Federally Funded Flea Dips for Fluffy?
22:26:28 [CharBot]
AaronSw: you employed the forbidden character!
22:26:41 [AaronSw]
I::"The Bush administration announced a new, $345-trillion proposal to extend universal health care to pets -- causing the fur to fly on Capitol Hill as fiscal conservatives, animal rights groups and pro-human advocates joined the heated debate."
22:26:42 [CharBot]
AaronSw: you employed the forbidden character!
22:26:44 [chumpster]
titled item I
22:27:01 [chumpster]
commented item I
22:27:13 [redmonk]
charbot, detail redmonk
22:27:13 [CharBot]
redmonk details: \x75s: 0; chars: 251
22:27:58 [sbp]
you're the only person with 0 \x75s
22:27:59 [CharBot]
sbp: you employed the forbidden character!
22:28:02 [sbp]
damnit!
22:28:24 [redmonk]
heh
22:28:46 [redmonk]
trying to keep my trap closed ;-)
22:29:05 [sbp]
well, the more non-forbidden characters, the better
22:29:26 [redmonk]
yeah
22:30:03 [AaronSw]
* AaronSw renames all files with "/" in their names for retrospect
22:31:46 [redmonk]
mmpgh - appears that retrospect is still only good for old-mac-os really
22:31:59 [AaronSw]
why's that?
22:32:11 [sbp]
blargh @ /
22:32:12 [AaronSw]
apparently it's a fs problem
22:32:14 [redmonk]
oh nevermind
22:32:24 [redmonk]
brain fart
22:38:03 [redmonk]
aaron - aaronsw.com is borked
22:38:08 [AaronSw]
hwo so?
22:38:27 [redmonk]
somethin in the feed from swhack
22:38:47 [redmonk]
a lot of the right-side content is at the bottom of the page
22:39:21 [sbp]
Hmm... lots of swhacky goodness
22:39:23 [AaronSw]
i bet it's the word NSInputManagerUserDidSomethingParticularlyStupidNotification
22:39:23 [CharBot]
AaronSw: you employed the forbidden character!
22:39:39 [AaronSw]
Make me
22:39:52 [sbp]
wha?
22:40:03 [AaronSw]
hm, that didn't really work...
22:40:25 [sbp]
* sbp wonders what on earth Aaron meant
22:42:02 [AaronSw]
i was trying to give an appropriately sbp-style like-i-care response
22:42:07 [AaronSw]
to CharBot
22:42:56 [redmonk]
robots rarely respond well to sarcasm, cynicism, or apathy
22:43:07 [redmonk]
they're way too literal ;-)
22:45:01 [AaronSw]
wow, the "scripting addition" icon is really pretty
22:47:14 [sbp]
I'd have said: "yeah? what'ya gonna do?"
22:48:38 [sbp]
I wonder what the normal dist. of the forbidden character is in text?
22:49:23 [AaronSw]
dist?
22:49:30 [AaronSw]
oh
22:49:47 [redmonk]
that's TFC
22:50:39 [sbp]
yeah, freq.
22:53:22 [sbp]
ah: http://www.raes.ab.ca/book/c28.htm
22:53:24 [sbp]
26/1000
22:53:45 [AaronSw]
it's the least-used, right? etian shrdl[TFC]
22:54:15 [AaronSw]
oh, Z is
22:55:44 [CharBot]
CharBot has quit (Killed (NickServ (Ghost: sbp!~sean@63.149.73.20)))
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CharBot (~sbp@m854-mp1-cvx4c.pop.ntl.com) has joined #swhack
22:56:04 [sbp]
(2.6%: close to Morb's score)
22:56:32 [Morbus]
Morbus has quit ("http://www.disobey.com/")
23:02:03 [CharBot]
CharBot has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer))
23:10:23 [CharBot]
CharBot (~sbp@m854-mp1-cvx4c.pop.ntl.com) has joined #swhack
23:10:42 [redmonk]
charbot, detail redmonk
23:10:42 [CharBot]
redmonk details: \x75s: 0; chars: 23
23:10:48 [redmonk]
oy
23:10:54 [redmonk]
lost my good stats
23:10:57 [redmonk]
:-(
23:11:13 [AaronSw]
CharBot, detail AaronSw
23:11:13 [CharBot]
AaronSw details: \x75s: 0; chars: 23
23:11:19 [AaronSw]
woo!
23:11:22 [sbp]
sorry! still, I've added something for highest/lowest scores
23:11:28 [AaronSw]
i'm clean!
23:11:34 [sbp]
charbot, highest score?
23:11:35 [CharBot]
sbp, redmonk, CharBot, and AaronSw have the worst score: 0%
23:11:42 [sbp]
charbot, best score?
23:11:42 [CharBot]
sbp, redmonk, CharBot, and AaronSw have the best score: 0.0%
23:11:51 [sbp]
charbot, scores?
23:11:52 [CharBot]
sbp: 0.0%; redmonk: 0.0%; CharBot: 0.0%; AaronSw: 0.0%
23:12:15 [redmonk]
heh
23:12:29 [redmonk]
ya had to trash the scores, din'ya
23:12:31 [redmonk]
?
23:12:33 [redmonk]
;-)
23:12:34 [sbp]
heh, heh
23:12:59 [sbp]
Hmm... I can always copy the pickle file
23:13:19 [sbp]
didn't think of that. I'll do it for the next ^grade
23:13:50 [redmonk]
<monty>EEEeexcellent</monty>
23:14:35 [sbp]
Hmm... I have to stop it from grading itself
23:14:37 [CharBot]
CharBot has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer))
23:15:28 [AaronSw]
why? it screws up sometimes
23:15:46 [sbp]
not anymore
23:15:57 [AaronSw]
never know...
23:18:24 [CharBot]
CharBot (~sbp@m854-mp1-cvx4c.pop.ntl.com) has joined #swhack
23:18:39 [sbp]
charbot, scores?
23:18:41 [CharBot]
CharBot has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer))
23:20:32 [sbp]
oh, the CygWin and Win picklers must be incompatible
23:20:33 [sbp]
odd!
23:21:24 [CharBot]
CharBot (~sbp@m854-mp1-cvx4c.pop.ntl.com) has joined #swhack
23:21:47 [sbp]
and we're back on track. No more changes, I hope!
23:22:14 [AaronSw]
CharBot, scores?
23:22:14 [CharBot]
sbp: 0.0%; AaronSw: 0.0%
23:22:40 [sbp]
I can't believe that CygWin horks on a file pickled with Windows Python
23:22:54 [AaronSw]
* AaronSw looks for more foolishness before the 6:00 deadline
23:23:39 [sbp]
poor rm; he had a really great score, too...
23:23:50 [redmonk]
i know.
23:24:05 [redmonk]
darn thee to hades, sbp!
23:24:09 [sbp]
heh
23:24:28 [AaronSw]
DW: "Ralph Levien is doing his PhD research on why I'm on crack. Apparently this is not an April Fools joke."
23:24:36 [AaronSw]
Raph is dead serious
23:24:37 [CharBot]
AaronSw: you employed the forbidden character!
23:24:44 [redmonk]
"i'm a winner. i can feel it."
23:25:12 [redmonk]
did DW *read* that post?
23:25:22 [sbp]
cite?
23:25:39 [redmonk]
http://wmf.editthispage.com/discuss/msgReader$7344?mode=day
23:25:40 [CharBot]
redmonk: you employed the forbidden character!
23:25:48 [redmonk]
geez
23:26:05 [sbp]
heh. hex escape them!
23:26:31 [redmonk]
http://wmf.editthispage.com/disc\x075ss/msgReader$7344?mode=day
23:27:35 [AaronSw]
what kind of argument is this?! "Allowing outside developers to modify the Flash player would likely result in bloated code, Lynch said."
23:27:36 [CharBot]
AaronSw: you employed the forbidden character!
23:27:52 [redmonk]
charbot, scores?
23:27:52 [CharBot]
sbp: 0.0%; redmonk: 0.440528634361%; AaronSw: 1.46198830409%
23:28:12 [sbp]
i.e. http://wmf.editthispage.com/disc%75ss/msgReader$7344?mode=day
23:28:24 [redmonk]
ah
23:29:03 [sbp]
if it's in the host address, try the IP, as deltab did
23:30:10 [sbp]
* sbp is planning on playing consistently now :-)
23:31:01 [sbp]
heh: it won't be long before I make a mistake. I'll bet that we made a few errors in the original game that no-one noticed. We didn't even spot the cahracter in Morb's nickname for ages
23:33:30 [sbp]
sbp has changed the topic to: What a st^H^Hsilly game
23:33:54 [redmonk]
so is there a command for changing TFC?
23:34:46 [AaronSw]
hey!
23:34:51 [AaronSw]
AaronSw has changed the topic to: Verry merry fools day!
23:34:57 [redmonk]
hehe
23:34:57 [AaronSw]
wait until 6, bub
23:34:58 [CharBot]
AaronSw: you employed the forbidden character!
23:35:04 [redmonk]
Topic Wars
23:35:12 [sbp]
it's not April fools day anymore!
23:35:23 [AaronSw]
* AaronSw is away: dinner
23:35:40 [AaronSw]
DST doesn't start for another week, mah friend
23:35:46 [AaronSw]
.time
23:35:46 [xena]
2002/04/01 23:35:45.9977 Universal
23:35:49 [sbp]
Hmm... by *ahem*TC it is
23:35:57 [AaronSw]
try again
23:36:03 [sbp]
try what again?
23:36:06 [AaronSw]
hey, how come it didn't yell @ xena
23:36:13 [sbp]
it loves xena
23:36:23 [AaronSw]
ooh, it doesn't catch capital U
23:36:27 [sbp]
right
23:36:32 [AaronSw]
it's still april fools in UTC
23:36:42 [AaronSw]
* AaronSw is away: dinner
23:37:01 [sbp]
* sbp wonders if he shoUld consider capital U cheating
23:37:15 [redmonk]
only if it is not alone
23:37:25 [redmonk]
(eg shoUld)
23:37:49 [sbp]
as in \SU\S?
23:37:55 [redmonk]
yes
23:38:03 [sbp]
right. I'll add it to the next version
23:38:13 [redmonk]
(same for \x75, IMO)
23:38:45 [sbp]
well, that's good for getting a nickname-with-forbidden-character's score
23:39:07 [redmonk]
wha?
23:39:21 [sbp]
for example, score Morb\x75s
23:39:48 [redmonk]
no i mean if it is alone it should not count
23:39:48 [CharBot]
redmonk: you employed the forbidden character!
23:39:53 [redmonk]
shit
23:40:04 [redmonk]
\s\x75\s
23:40:50 [sbp]
? that means that it'd trigger off CharBot if it *was* in a word, so it's besides the point of having it, right?
23:41:06 [sbp]
Grmgrpmgprmgpmgh
23:41:17 [sbp]
conversation is so tricky sans that character :-)
23:41:41 [redmonk]
it shoUld trigger charbot as it does now, except when alone, as with U
23:42:03 [redmonk]
yes
23:42:21 [sbp]
then we can't get Morb's score by itself
23:42:34 [redmonk]
y not?
23:42:51 [sbp]
well, how?
23:42:53 [redmonk]
oh you mean morbUs
23:42:54 [CharBot]
redmonk: you employed the forbidden character!
23:43:07 [redmonk]
indeed i did, bit-bag
23:43:59 [sbp]
perhaps the opposite of U?
23:44:06 [sbp]
i.e. trigger when not in a word?
23:44:17 [redmonk]
hm.
23:44:25 [sbp]
which is a bit pointless
23:44:27 [redmonk]
dinna know
23:45:10 [sbp]
still, if we ban it, then we can't display Morb's score by itself. That's my only concern. then again, I don't know why that is an exception to the r^Hlaw
23:45:25 [redmonk]
exactly
23:45:47 [redmonk]
can one ask charbot for detail on morb\x75s?
23:45:55 [sbp]
yep
23:46:00 [redmonk]
k then
23:46:04 [redmonk]
ban it
23:46:05 [sbp]
CharBot, detail Morb\x75s
23:46:06 [CharBot]
I don't have a score for Morb\x75s
23:46:33 [sbp]
so what I did is henceforth banned, right?
23:46:49 [redmonk]
yeah
23:47:17 [sbp]
and to look for the score of someone with a forbidden character in their nickname, they have to do CharBot, scores
23:49:27 [sbp]
Hmm... record stints'd be a nice thing to have, too: i.e. the longest that anyone has ever abstained from the char.
23:49:53 [redmonk]
heh.
23:49:58 [sbp]
then, even someone who's totally smegged their score can go for a stint
23:49:59 [redmonk]
Abstinence.
23:50:48 [redmonk]
Haven't ya heard? Abstinence doesn't work. Only Safe Typing works.
23:50:54 [sbp]
heh, heh
23:51:54 [sbp]
I want to do 10,000 characters sans the forbidden one!
23:53:02 [talli]
talli has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer))
23:53:42 [sbp]
I wonder if one can map the key to a wav noise, so that when it's typed, the system can say, "aaaargh! don't type that character!"? :-)
23:53:56 [redmonk]
heh
23:54:11 [redmonk]
text-to-speech ;-)
23:55:37 [sbp]
ü almost makes a good replacement. Get rid of the diaresis, and it's done
23:55:53 [sbp]
I wonder if there's a modifier character that removes diacritic marks?
23:56:25 [sbp]
.google modifier character that removes diacritics
23:56:28 [xena]
modifier character that removes diacritics: http://www.ldc.upenn.edu/exploration/expl2000/papers/constable2/constable2.html
23:56:28 [CharBot]
xena: you employed the forbidden character!
23:56:32 [sbp]
heh