00:10:51 * tomc yawns 00:11:05 hi 00:11:24 written anything good? 00:11:33 hehe 00:11:45 Hmph. Not today, I haven't 00:12:06 well, that I know of. I tend to write stuff, forget about it, figure it out again later on, and say, "ooh, that was good!" 00:12:45 I have real difficulty writing songs. 00:12:57 lyrics or music, or both? 00:12:58 Not sure why, probably lack of practice. 00:13:42 *hmm* I can sometimes get a good chord sequence, but I can't figure out where to go from there. 00:14:09 rpt. it a few times, change it, and then reprise it! :-) 00:14:19 Alternatively, I can write lyrics as a poem, but I can't assign a tune to it. 00:14:35 heh yes, change it on the 4th iteration usually sounds best :D 00:15:00 you would have a very linear song. 00:15:39 heh, yeah. my songs are usually quite intricate, but not always. Some of the best songs are the simplest 00:16:29 C/G/D will never die. 00:17:07 indeed 00:17:43 still... 00:18:42 the other thing I cannot do is put lyrics and tune together. 00:19:01 do you always write lyrics first, and then try to match them? 00:20:29 thc (~lambda@modem-2639.panther.dialup.pol.co.uk) has joined #swhack 00:20:34 wb 00:20:38 do you always write lyrics first, and then try to match them? 00:20:53 ty :) 00:20:57 oierw` (~mathew@pcp994425pcs.goosck01.sc.comcast.net) has joined #swhack 00:21:15 well I'm not sure, I think I've tried lyr first and tune first 00:21:34 I would prefer write lyrics to a tune, I think 00:22:01 I have nothing of importance to say usually 00:22:27 neither do most songwriters... 00:23:04 true. 00:24:01 argh, I borked this recording... I must have had the mic. a little too close to the speaker: all the waves are squared out 00:24:24 it's not unlistenable, just a little bit crackly 00:24:43 and I could repair it, but it'd take years. blargh 00:24:53 heh :) 00:29:44 . 00:30:08 oops, leaning on keyboard, sorry 00:30:25 carefu; you'll get xena to perform one of her tricks! 00:30:38 s/u/ul/ 00:30:56 .time 00:30:56 2002/03/17 00:32:23.9796 Universal 00:31:33 .isotime 00:31:33 2002-03-17T00:33:01.373962Z 00:38:57 oierw has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 00:39:12 tomc has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 00:49:06 * AaronSw waves 00:49:23 Hey Aaron 00:49:29 thc is now known as tomc 00:49:33 * AaronSw reads backlogs... geez, there's lots of them. 00:49:57 yeah... we haven't been all that talkative on here today 00:55:46 @ http://infomesh.net/geirlyfr/ 00:55:52 A: Geirlyfr - sbp's Big Language and Linguistics Notebook Deeley from sbp 00:56:03 A:|A Language and Linguistics Notebook 00:56:04 titled item A 00:57:52 A::Homer: My favourite section is "How To Increse Your Word Power". That thing is really, really, really... good 00:57:53 commented item A 00:58:34 lol @ "Our Vision is to transform SBP into a modern and dynamic central bank [...]" 00:58:40 heh, heh, heh 00:59:58 man, great stuff from .GNU:- 01:00:00 [[[ 01:00:08 wow. i went to babelfish and im trying to figure out what Virosss said 01:00:09 [...] 01:00:10 and i tried Russian-->english and here is what it said: 01:00:10 the mineral fertilizer of ima whether of bulgari 01:00:15 [...] 01:00:16 what do bulgarians speak? 01:00:16 bulgarish? dunno 01:00:17 ]]] 01:01:22 ah, the dotgnu crowd 01:02:25 I think Internet-in-a-box was an O'Reilly product... or maybe it was ACE's thing... it was one of those get started on the Interet products anyway. 01:06:21 We had to write a lot of poetry in school, and when I got bored I'd sing it and bang the desks and stuff. Went over surprisingly well. 01:06:42 heh, heh. Ever the rowdy Aaron 01:07:14 I recall some poem about death or something sad that I turned into a Blues tune. 01:07:25 * AaronSw goes bang, bang 01:08:00 On Parka: "Click here for more information on this (patent pending) integration of knowledge- and data-base technology!" 01:08:02 eww, patents 01:08:17 hehe 01:08:21 * AaronSw listens to WMGSW 01:08:48 SW? GW 01:08:49 strongly weeps? 01:09:14 While My Guitar Swhack Weblogs 01:09:25 Homer: Weblogs is a verb! 01:10:57 My word "mooee" google-rates but 199, and most of those seem to be Welsh. 01:11:53 that's some pretty funky Welsh, if so 01:12:32 welsh is the most bizarre thing human beings ever created 01:13:27 IMO :-) 01:13:31 oh, heh: it's how you pronounce mwy according to one page 01:14:11 lol: 'I could have chosen some other word, but "Miscellaneous" and I have something going on, or so it would seem.' 01:14:25 how do you pronounce ddfyll? 01:14:50 *hmm* maybe it's a flower. 01:15:21 I think that "ddfyll" is perfectly unpronouncable 01:15:41 unless the f is silent, or something 01:15:49 Aha that is where the Welsh come in :D 01:15:58 (or just butted onto the dd, and not pronounced separately) 01:16:11 d'dif-fille 01:16:52 you ahve to invent a vowel or two 01:17:11 From now on when I meet people whose name I can't remember, I'll just exclaim "Lethonomia!" like it's their name. 01:17:39 er... except you forgot the first rule of Welsh: it's *never* pronounced as you would expect it. dd is more like th, and f is more like v 01:18:14 no daffodil then :-( 01:18:19 Aaron: heh, good idea 01:18:30 I wonder if that applies to household objects too... 01:18:41 what's lethonomia then? 01:19:18 the tendency to forget... um... names! 01:19:19 Strangers keep coming up to me and saying "hi Tom, how's things?". It's frightening. 01:19:34 Aha :) I got the nom bit, yes 01:20:01 heh, yeah... that happened to me always too. You'd be having a conversation with them and thinking, "who the feck is this?!" 01:20:40 Yes, it happened to me on Thursday... eventually I realised and shouted "Aha!"... I got a few strange looks 01:20:53 heh! 01:21:44 :o) I hadn't seen him in 2.5 years, so I have an excuse. His hair's shorter. 01:22:23 * AaronSw goes back to reading AIMA 01:23:53 * AaronSw is away: dinner 01:23:58 c'ya 01:24:16 enjoy 01:29:51 I found "Teach Yourself Semantics" for 80p at a library booksale yesterday. hehe 01:30:42 .google "Teach Yourself Semantics" 01:30:44 no results found. 01:30:48 .google "Teach Yourself Semantics" libraryware 01:30:49 no results found. 01:30:53 Pff 01:30:57 is p a good international unit? Maybe I should say (GBP/100) 01:31:27 international... well, some Americans call cents "pennies", which I've never really understood 01:32:06 so they can say "a penny saved is a penny earned" 01:32:19 etc etc. We have some good phrases. 01:32:43 they probably couldn't be bothered `coining' new ones. 01:33:06 aaaargh! wordplay 01:33:09 heh, I love it... 01:33:50 I'm fatally attracted to cheese 01:34:05 brb, getting food 01:34:38 O.K. 01:37:45 redmonk (~steve@ip68-2-102-26.ph.ph.cox.net) has joined #swhack 01:37:54 I used to hate english mustard, but now I eat it in increasingly large quantities. 01:38:15 Soon I will find myself spoonfeeding from the jar 01:38:38 I like stuff like that, too 01:39:09 wholegrain mustard is still better, but rarely in the cupboard 01:39:41 wholegrain? I dunno if I've even tried that 01:39:56 the one with seeds in :) 01:40:13 so wholeseed, then? 01:40:28 * sbp waves to rm 01:40:53 I supose :) 01:40:57 aaargh, wordplay! 01:41:10 * tomc waves to rm, to be sociable 01:41:48 redmonk has quit (Client Quit) 01:42:09 * AaronSw picks up rm and defenestrates, to be polite 01:42:52 defenestrate is quite the charming word 01:43:15 it is :) 01:43:47 * tomc puts down his dictionary with an amused expression 01:43:49 oh man, I've started him off now 01:44:47 I hate being in the company of articulate people. they say wurds wat i dont no 01:45:15 wat? 01:45:23 This is a little strange: 01:45:24 -- 01:45:26 class ReflexVacuumAgent(Agent): 01:45:26 "A reflex agent for the two-state vacuum environment. [Fig. 2.8]" 01:45:27 def __init__(self): 01:45:27 def program((location, status)): 01:45:27 if status == 'Dirty': return 'Suck' 01:45:28 elif location == loc_A: return 'Right' 01:45:30 elif location == loc_B: return 'Left' 01:45:32 self.program = program 01:45:34 -- 01:45:36 - http://norvig.com/python/agents.py 01:45:50 hehe 01:46:13 seems quite straightforward to me 01:46:28 it's a reflexive vacuum agent in Python. Why not? 01:46:30 why not just dispense with the __init__ altogether? 01:46:50 furthermore, it is not at all what is described in figure 2.8 in my copy of the book. 01:48:13 Wumpus?? 01:48:32 aaaaaargh! don't say that word 01:48:34 Fudd: Hunt the Wumpus, hunt the Wumpus, hunt the Wuuuuuuuuuuuuuumpus 01:48:59 it's the most annoying fecky pisswanking bollocky smgged up stupid bitchy arse mongering words in existance 01:49:12 [sheepishly] wumpus? 01:49:14 smgged, huh? 01:49:18 aaaaaaaaaargh! 01:49:49 I think Sean wouldn't like this so-called Wumpus World 01:50:14 * tomc fantasises that there are little people called Wumples 01:50:18 * sbp walks around in metaphorical circles 01:50:44 * tomc thinks around in vicious circles 01:51:02 * AaronSw puts some pants on 01:51:11 Heh, in America, that has a peculiarly British meaning. 01:51:42 American pants are trousers, our pants are usually underwear. 01:51:49 I believe 01:51:58 Indeed, which is what makes it peculiar 01:52:11 because when someone says they're putting pants on, everyone goes "eww, you were naked before?" 01:52:13 Pants are things which are belong to Edd 01:52:33 no... I say, "ew... you were only wearing pants before?" 01:52:35 I chat on IRC naked. Is that odd? 01:52:51 Not really... 01:52:55 *hmm* only post-shower though 01:52:56 * sbp reckons so 01:53:03 * AaronSw looks for that Doonesbury comic 01:53:21 Doonesbury... I think I have a book of those 01:53:38 aha, beland 01:53:46 But none of it's funny... Strange. 01:54:04 :o) it's quite old though 01:54:27 Aha. http://web.mit.edu/beland/www/pics/mitnude.jpg :textVersion http://web.mit.edu/beland/www/doonesbury.txt 01:54:40 mitnude? 01:55:14 so true 01:55:38 I wonder how beland is doing these days... 01:55:54 hehe 01:59:04 We used to pronounce Sean as "seen" 01:59:21 Yeah. It's *so* funny when people do that 01:59:43 There was (is?) a Sean in my class at school 02:02:27 Time is a weird thing. I'm sure I had 123 more minuites of it at midnight. 02:02:27 well, I'd better be toodling 02:02:38 Gotta run 02:02:48 I think I should sleep 02:03:11 running is best saved for buses. 02:03:17 'night 02:03:39 tomc has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 02:20:35 oh. Norvig's Python is for the second edition 02:35:27 odd - the Apple Pro Keyboard appears to have a feature that is perfectly useless (especially with Macs) 02:36:02 If you hold the "num lock" key down, instead of just pressing it, it will blink and turn off when you let go of it. 02:36:33 it = the num lock light 02:36:39 It's useless because there are no other characters printed on the num lock keys, nor does the num lock key do anything on a Mac 03:23:57 googlewhack: agoraphobic tarsier 03:24:10 subaltern tarsier 03:24:54 also: agoraphobic meerkat 03:27:54 ah, i didn't realize that Timon from the Lion King was a meerkat. 03:42:40 lol: http://ratpoison.sourceforge.net/inspiration.html 03:54:23 oierw` has quit (devlin.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net) 03:54:23 tansaku_sftwre_fcked has quit (devlin.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net) 03:55:13 oierw` (~mathew@pcp994425pcs.goosck01.sc.comcast.net) has joined #swhack 03:55:13 tansaku_sftwre_fcked (~sam@n146-053.tokyu-net.catv.ne.jp) has joined #swhack 04:11:12 Heh, Morbus seems to have missed the point. 'I fancy myself relatively decent at logo design and name creation - I've become relatively "known" for it, I suppose, with comments like: [me quoting jill]' 04:15:26 more google nonsense: http://zdnet.com.com/2100-1105-859805.html 04:20:13 04:20:13 * AaronSw starts a "Others" section on his weblog with stuff culled from here, most ly 04:20:13 04:23:28 * AaronSw works on a DTRT, tries to think of services he uses often 04:45:38 GabeW (~gwachob@12-236-237-100.client.attbi.com) has joined #swhack 04:49:58 hallo 04:50:49 * hazmat has been reading through jxta.org docs. 04:50:53 interesting stuff. 04:57:57 hm? 05:25:29 @ http://www.aaronsw.com/2002/dtrt 05:25:36 B: http://www.aaronsw.com/2002/dtrt from AaronSw 05:25:40 B:|ADTRT: Aaron's Do The Right Thing 05:25:42 titled item B 05:31:31 B::A nice bit of Python, if I do say so myself. It was very cool to refactor the logic like I did. 05:31:33 commented item B 06:05:55 "It is crucial to put the work in typescript, read it word for word and patch it with a pencil: computer writing tends to be flabby and tone-deaf otherwise." 06:11:40 06:11:40 06:38:48 odd. the quotelink CSS coloring doesn't show up on the first two quotes in http://www.aaronsw.com/weblog/000183 06:38:59 i thought it was my fault, but it works in Chimera (Mozilla) 06:40:11 ooh, I quit out and came back in and now three work... 06:41:12 * AaronSw is away: sleep 07:08:33 chumpster has quit (devlin.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net) 07:08:33 deltab has quit (devlin.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net) 07:13:13 deltab (deltab@mewtwo.espnow.com) has joined #swhack 07:13:13 chumpster (~chumpster@xcdfddb76.ip.ggn.net) has joined #swhack 07:23:20 GabeW has quit ("Client Exiting") 08:33:23 chumpster has quit (devlin.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net) 08:33:23 deltab has quit (devlin.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net) 08:43:24 deltab (deltab@mewtwo.espnow.com) has joined #swhack 08:43:24 chumpster (~chumpster@xcdfddb76.ip.ggn.net) has joined #swhack 10:29:05 chumpster has quit (devlin.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net) 10:29:06 deltab has quit (devlin.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net) 10:29:45 deltab (deltab@mewtwo.espnow.com) has joined #swhack 10:29:45 chumpster (~chumpster@xcdfddb76.ip.ggn.net) has joined #swhack 10:46:45 oierw` has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 13:49:47 son_utucu (kaz_m@212.253.214.12) has joined #swhack 13:49:54 son_utucu has left #swhack 14:41:09 oierw` (~mathew@pcp994425pcs.goosck01.sc.comcast.net) has joined #swhack 16:21:56 * AaronSw considers starting a Google Weblog 17:45:13 demona (~chatzilla@24.247.121.252.kzo.mi.chartermi.net) has joined #swhack 17:57:32 @ http://google.blogspace.com/ 17:57:39 C: http://google.blogspace.com/ from AaronSw 17:57:45 C:|Google Weblog 17:57:46 titled item C 18:16:19 AaronSw: broken link to google.logicerror.com 18:16:27 oops, thanks 18:22:31 suggested additions are appreciated. 18:43:19 * AaronSw is away: lunch 19:07:15 * sbp waves 19:50:03 demona has quit ("ChatZilla 0.8.6 [Mozilla/6.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows XP) This is a lie and you will never know what my browser and OS ) 20:33:01 rm_ (~chatzilla@ip68-2-102-26.ph.ph.cox.net) has joined #swhack 20:33:29 sup all 20:33:35 AaronSw: ? 20:34:42 rm_ has quit (Remote closed the connection) 20:39:17 * sbp waves to rm and hazmat 20:42:39 hi sbp 20:44:30 * AaronSw waves 20:46:15 sbp has changed the topic to: Nowadays, it's politically correct to be politically incorrect 20:49:59 Hmm... and vice versa :-) 20:52:25 the interconnectedness of all things strikes again! 20:52:59 * sbp wonders if any university offers a degree course in Holistics 20:54:23 Gotta run 20:55:49 degree: That'd be cool. 21:14:28 * AaronSw is away: Annie Hall 22:47:18 oierw` is now known as oierw 23:02:34 Book update: AIMA, Non-designer's Type Book (library), RW Design Workshop (library) 23:22:28 sbp has changed the topic to: Happy St. Patrick's Day! | Nowadays, it's politically correct to be politically incorrect 23:57:02 * AaronSw learns how to type �smart quotes� 23:57:38 bleh 23:58:54 I wonder if this typographic study is doing me harm or good...