IRC log of swhack on 2002-03-16

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00:08:58 [Morbus]

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00:30:20 [sbp]

.wn humbrid

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.wn humbrish

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.wn test

00:30:31 [xena]

test defined as:

00:30:33 [xena]

- adj : of the nature of or undergoing an experiment; "an experimental drug"; "a pilot project"; "a test run"; "a trial separation" [syn: {experimental}, {model(a)}, {pilot(a)}, {test(a)}, {trial(a)}]

00:30:34 [xena]

- n 1: trying something to find out about it; "a sample for ten days free trial"; "a trial of progesterone failed to relieve the pain" [syn: {trial}, {tryout}]

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- 2: any standardized procedure for measuring sensitivity or memory or intelligence or aptitude etc; "the test was standardized on a large sample of students" [syn: {mental test}, {mental testing}, {psychometric test}]

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- 3: an appraisal of the state of affairs; "they made an assay of the contents"; "a check on its dependability under stress" [syn: {assay}, {check}]

00:35:40 [sbp]

ooh, Oasis have new stuff coming out!

00:38:15 [Morbus]

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00:38:19 [sbp]

"The Hindu Times"

00:38:43 [Morbus]

aaron, you around?

00:38:45 [Morbus]

dammit, he's proabbly at the jewish thingy thing

00:38:47 [Morbus]

sbp!

00:38:57 [sbp]

yep

00:38:57 [Morbus]

deltab!

00:38:58 [sbp]

* sbp is excited

00:38:59 [Morbus]

you here?

00:39:17 [Morbus]

I need you tolook at something.

00:39:19 [Morbus]

the flow sucks right now, but focus on the *idea*.

00:39:29 [Morbus]

sbp, did you read the backlog about the Decepticons and Transformers thing?

00:39:48 [sbp]

@ http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/entertainment/newsid_1872000/1872605.stm

00:39:54 [chumpster]

A: BBC News | ENTERTAINMENT | Oasis play low-key gig from sbp

00:40:00 [sbp]

A::"""Oasis are to play a low-key gig in London to introduce their new single, The Hindu Times, to fans, it has been reported."""

00:40:01 [chumpster]

commented item A

00:40:22 [Morbus]

sbp, i'm sending you an email. read it over if you can.

00:40:27 [sbp]

will do

00:40:57 [Morbus]

sent. if you could give it a quick read right now, that'd be awesome.

00:41:04 [Morbus]

i want to get it sent off before i get bored with the idea.

00:41:32 [Morbus]

remember, focus on the idea for now.

00:42:46 [sbp]

A::also [http://www.nme.com/news/101094.htm|on NME]

00:42:47 [chumpster]

commented item A

00:42:55 [sbp]

* sbp checks mail

00:43:53 [sbp]

lyrics and stuff on the Web already...

00:44:10 [sbp]

nothing yet, Morbus

00:44:20 [Morbus]

sean@m?

00:44:21 [Morbus]

dammit.

00:44:24 [Morbus]

* Morbus rechecks for typs.

00:44:55 [Morbus]

looks right.

00:44:57 [Morbus]

argh.

00:45:37 [sbp]

ah, this is it, I think

00:45:42 [sbp]

yep

00:45:43 [Morbus]

blank subj

00:45:53 [sbp]

Hmph... no; it was spam

00:46:00 [Morbus]

dammit

00:46:09 [Morbus]

can you dcc?

00:46:19 [sbp]

dircproxy tends to reject it

00:46:24 [Morbus]

grumble

00:47:33 [sbp]

is this a paradigm shifting thing that you're sending me?

00:47:39 [Morbus]

no.

00:47:44 [sbp]

or is it merely excellent?

00:47:50 [Morbus]

its a "what the fuck is morbus talki..oooOoOOh"

00:47:52 [Morbus]

sorta thing.

00:47:56 [Morbus]

i want to see if oreilly will publish it ;)

00:47:58 [sbp]

ooh, neat

00:48:16 [sbp]

can you put it up on your port 80 or something?

00:48:53 [Morbus]

done

00:49:50 [sbp]

just *.html?

00:49:56 [Morbus]

yup

00:50:16 [Morbus]

20 minutes of fast typing so give leeway for edits.

00:51:49 [sbp]

what, like:-

00:51:53 [sbp]

s/did they paralleled/did they parallel/

00:52:42 [Morbus]

heheh

00:54:51 [sbp]

Hmm... the idea is pretty good

00:55:01 [sbp]

and I like the reference to Gummi at the bottom

00:55:05 [deltab]

Morbus: I am here now

00:55:11 [Morbus]

deltab, hit my port 80.

00:55:13 [Morbus]

*.html

00:58:26 [deltab]

* deltab reads

00:58:50 [Morbus]

deltab, disclaimer: feverish 20 minutes of typing. give leeway for extensive edits

01:01:35 [Morbus]

i need an example of how MS isn't working with Linux.

01:01:51 [sbp]

aha, it's the old "We print books on the same substrate we employ for cleaning our nether regions after excreting." quote again

01:02:02 [sbp]

you've been working on this for a while, haven't you?

01:02:17 [sbp]

the past week of Morbus now makes (more) sense!

01:02:22 [Morbus]

i was thinking about how they're using .NET to subvert the weakness of their own OS, by becoming a transport layer.

01:02:33 [Morbus]

sbp, actually, no, the introduction happened this morning.

01:02:37 [Morbus]

it all came to me this morning

01:04:42 [Morbus]

it probably shows ;)

01:06:34 [sbp]

iffy: I got it via. email

01:06:55 [Morbus]

pff. jesus.

01:06:56 [Morbus]

long time.

01:07:06 [deltab]

I like it

01:07:21 [Morbus]

yeah? that's a plus.

01:07:28 [deltab]

heh

01:08:32 [Morbus]

hm.

01:08:35 [Morbus]

<p>Microsoft, on the other hand, didn't work with Linux. They created .NET, a way for them to subvert the weakness and legal melodrama of their own OS, all the while pushing it to be a transport layer running on any OS. Appease the Mini-Cons but put drugs in their coffee. Of course, the inherent instability of evil proved itself all too clearly when the MSN servers went down. People yelled, people screamed, people questioned. But, like the drug

01:08:35 [Morbus]

??

01:08:58 [deltab]

did you just add that?

01:09:10 [deltab]

hmm

01:09:14 [Morbus]

yah, lemme throw the newest few paragraps up.

01:09:23 [deltab]

ah

01:09:47 [Morbus]

k. its there.

01:10:05 [Morbus]

does that para work? i'm kinda stretching on a way of how MS corrupts Linux, as a parrallel to how the Mac is helping it.

01:14:30 [Morbus]

sbp, I need a Simpsons quote that somehow relates to all this.

01:17:28 [sbp]

ooh

01:17:36 [sbp]

just vaguely, or specifically?

01:17:41 [Morbus]

<p>Do I worry about NETcrack? Do I cringe from MarijuaNET? Alfred E. Neuman respects mah authoritah. I do not worry.</p>

01:17:45 [Morbus]

<p>If there's one thing that cartoons have always told us, it's that good always rises up and beats back the forces of evil. That the eminent strenght of Happiness is always more powerful than Frustration, but not always strong enough to end the scourge forever. The harder and stronger the Decepticons push their wares, the more the Autobots provide a soothing salve of innovation, power, and stability.</p>

01:18:02 [sbp]

strenght?

01:18:02 [Morbus]

i've got South PArk and MAD in the first, I want Simpsons in the second.

01:18:09 [sbp]

right

01:18:16 [Morbus]

feverish. ignore.

01:18:42 [sbp]

so you want some Good over Evil thing?

01:18:52 [Morbus]

doesn't have to be.

01:19:12 [Morbus]

i'll know it when i see it.

01:19:42 [sbp]

Homer: Lisa, what's the opposite of that shameful joy thing of yours?

01:19:44 [sbp]

Lisa: Sour grapes

01:19:48 [Morbus]

what the frel is that star wars quote.

01:19:49 [Morbus]

the more you strike me down, the more powerful i become?

01:19:51 [sbp]

Homer: Boy, those Germans have a word for everything!

01:20:21 [Morbus]

sbp, that works.

01:20:27 [Morbus]

That the eminent strenght of Shameful Joy is always more powerful than Sour Grapes, but not always strong enough to end the scourge forever.

01:20:29 [sbp]

does it?

01:20:57 [Morbus]

i probably meant "Reference" not direct quote.

01:21:03 [sbp]

Hmm... there's some saying from a book that I read, which goes something like "If you xxx, does it not xxx?"

01:21:18 [Morbus]

if you prick me, do i not bleed?

01:21:56 [deltab]

sbp: Funzo?

01:22:14 [sbp]

Lisa: The madness stops here

01:22:23 [sbp]

Homer: Heh, if I had a dollar for everytime I've heard that...

01:22:47 [sbp]

yeah, it could be that, Morb. I think it's just a saying...

01:22:59 [deltab]

[in a toystore]

01:23:00 [deltab]

Bart: Yeah! Funzo makes playtime fun!

01:23:00 [deltab]

[Funzo walks over to Bart's Krusty doll and strangles it with its pull

01:23:00 [deltab]

string]

01:23:00 [deltab]

Hey, why is it destroying other toys?

01:23:00 [deltab]

Lisa: They must have programmed it to eliminate the competition!

01:23:01 [deltab]

Bart: You mean like Microsoft?

01:23:03 [deltab]

Lisa: Exactly. Come on, Bart, we've got to warn everyone!

01:23:09 [sbp]

oh, right!

01:23:24 [deltab]

er, not in a toystore

01:23:37 [sbp]

no, it's in their living room

01:23:40 [deltab]

yeah

01:24:11 [sbp]

that's where I got "Homer: Let's not get bogged down in semantics" that I used to use as my .sig

01:24:51 [deltab]

I first heard that quote as a wav file, so it's not too surprising I can't locate it visually

01:26:15 [sbp]

ah

01:26:30 [sbp]

Hmm... there's the old Apple quote from Homerpalooza

01:26:47 [sbp]

Homer: It was sponsored by that guy from Apple computers

01:26:53 [sbp]

Store guy: What computers?

01:27:04 [sbp]

heh, heh

01:27:21 [sbp]

that's a great episode. They cut one of the Peter Frampton bits out on Sky!

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01:36:51 [MorbusIff]

last two paras:

01:36:57 [MorbusIff]

<p>If there's one thing that cartoons have always told us, it's that good always rises up and beats back the forces of evil. That the eminent strenght of Shameful Joy is always more powerful than Sour Grapes, but not always strong enough to end the scourge forever. The harder and stronger the Decepticons push their wares, the more the Autobots provide a salve of innovation, power, and stability.</p>

01:37:00 [MorbusIff]

<p>The Decepticon's greatest weaknest isn't that they will eventually be defeated, but rather that they bring out the best of the Autobots. Without the threat of evil, there'd be stagnation. Do I dare wish away the Depticons? Nay - the old adage of keeping your enemies closer is not about mysterious Confusciosism, it's about self-preservation and growth.</p>

01:37:05 [MorbusIff]

<p>Let's roll.</p>

01:37:40 [sbp]

Hmm... yeah

01:38:22 [MorbusIff]

why the hmm?

01:38:38 [sbp]

weel, apart from some major speling erors it's got a swing to it

01:38:53 [MorbusIff]

yeah, ignore that crap.

01:38:58 [MorbusIff]

just getting it down on paper.

01:39:06 [sbp]

no, that's good.

01:39:07 [MorbusIff]

i'll revise in a bit.

01:39:26 [sbp]

if it wasn't for the humble spelling error, you wouldn't re-read text at all :-)

01:39:39 [MorbusIff]

heh!

01:40:23 [deltab]

MorbusIff: can't you ghost Morbus?

01:40:31 [MorbusIff]

not yet.

01:40:34 [MorbusIff]

i'm using him as a joke

01:40:39 [sbp]

lol!

01:40:41 [MorbusIff]

[[[

01:40:41 [MorbusIff]

<MorbusIff> jeez.

01:40:41 [MorbusIff]

<MorbusIff> i leave you two alone for two minutes, and suddenly you clone me.

01:40:41 [MorbusIff]

<MorbusIff> actually.

01:40:43 [MorbusIff]

<elfur> that's sean, not me

01:40:43 [MorbusIff]

<MorbusIff> i think i'm besidse my self with shock about elfur being a chick

01:40:44 [MorbusIff]

<MorbusIff> badump chish!

01:40:46 [MorbusIff]

<sbp> bwahaha!

01:40:48 [MorbusIff]

]]]

01:41:07 [deltab]

heh

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01:42:35 [Morbus]

kick ass!

01:42:44 [Morbus]

*** O'Reilly Network Mac Devcenter Top Five Articles Last Week ***

01:42:50 [Morbus]

1. Apache Web-Serving With Mac OS X, Part 5

01:42:56 [Morbus]

4. Apache Web-Serving with Mac OS X: Part 1

01:43:02 [Morbus]

5. Apache Web-Serving with Mac OS X: Part 2

01:43:05 [Morbus]

heh.

01:43:08 [Morbus]

i dominate.

01:43:31 [sbp]

heh, cool

01:45:13 [Morbus]

* Morbus goes off to revise.

01:45:21 [Morbus]

i'll be back in 20 with a final version

01:45:28 [Morbus]

if anyone wants to see it, lemme know.

01:50:55 [sbp]

Pff, you have to show us!

01:51:12 [Morbus]

well, if ora doesn't take it, i gotta publish it somewhere,.

01:51:14 [Morbus]

probably evolt.org.

01:52:11 [sbp]

wow, 1470 results for "Heathen Chemistry" already...

01:52:15 [sbp]

yeah

02:10:04 [Morbus]

mmaky.

02:10:07 [Morbus]

my first draft is done.

02:10:18 [Morbus]

now, i go over again.

02:10:19 [Morbus]

whee.

02:36:08 [Morbus]

i'm looking for something.

02:36:10 [Morbus]

you know...

02:36:17 [Morbus]

you know how evil is said to have many faces?

02:36:26 [Morbus]

always acting as someone else, yadda yadda?

02:36:30 [Morbus]

what the hell is that called?

02:36:33 [Morbus]

i want to use it here:

02:36:37 [Morbus]

Then you have the Windows OS in its many guises

02:36:41 [Morbus]

any ideas?

02:49:50 [Morbus]

Do I worry about .NET? Do I cringe at the thought of not being able to write a letter with my networked word processor because I didn't pay a monthly fee? Alfred E. Neuman respects mah authoritah. I do not worry.

02:51:53 [sbp]

What, you? Worry?

02:52:01 [Morbus]

exactly.

02:52:06 [Morbus]

.wn Confuscious

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03:01:19 [MorbusIff]

mmkay.

03:01:21 [MorbusIff]

i'm throwing this up on my port 80.

03:02:40 [MorbusIff]

http://63.173.138.140/decepticons.html

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03:05:44 [deltab]

.spell confuciusism

03:05:45 [xena]

potential spellings for confuciusism are: connubialisms, confiscates, connubialism, confiscations, confusedness, Keynesianisms, confusing, confusedly, Keynesianism, confusingly

03:05:53 [deltab]

ack

03:06:04 [Morbus]

yeah, i couldn't find it either

03:06:11 [sbp]

confuscianism

03:06:16 [Morbus]

source?

03:06:27 [sbp]

er... confucianism

03:06:32 [deltab]

still, u instead of o

03:06:47 [sbp]

pardon?

03:06:58 [sbp]

ah, yeah

03:08:14 [Morbus]

It is called Confucianism which is often characterized as a system of social and ethical philosophy rather than a religion.

03:08:18 [Morbus]

http://www.crystalinks.com/confuscius.html

03:08:50 [deltab]

ah

03:09:28 [deltab]

the first mention of Mini-Cons still has an apostrophe

03:09:46 [Morbus]

fixed

03:12:56 [deltab]

what do you mean by "all the action"?

03:13:13 [sbp]

"in'?

03:13:17 [sbp]

I like your slow syllabic shuffles, as normal, Morbus

03:13:27 [deltab]

power. The Mini-Cons represent the worker race of Cybertron, the home

03:13:27 [deltab]

planet where all the action occurs - they keep things running while the

03:13:34 [deltab]

yeah, has nice rhythm

03:13:49 [Morbus]

all the action / where the story takes place.

03:13:58 [sbp]

you've apostrophe-s'd Mini-Cons somewhere else. do a search and replace!

03:14:13 [Morbus]

i like ownership, i suppose ;)

03:14:15 [deltab]

um, what about Earth?

03:14:18 [sbp]

heh

03:14:56 [deltab]

a robot that can disguise itself as a vehicle isn't much good on a planet of robots

03:15:07 [Morbus]

well, cybertron is where the transformers really come from.

03:15:09 [deltab]

unless it's a vehcile disguised as a robot

03:15:10 [Morbus]

but you make a good point.

03:15:13 [Morbus]

the toyline is actually on earth

03:15:39 [Morbus]

what isn't told in here is that the mini-cons were on cyberton thousands of years ago.

03:15:53 [Morbus]

they were so powerful, that the d's and a's said "shit" and threw them all out into space.

03:15:58 [Morbus]

where they then crashlanded on earth.

03:16:14 [Morbus]

fast forward ten years from now, where the d's say "shit!" and come to earth to get the power.

03:16:26 [Morbus]

i'll just take out mention of the plant entirely.

03:16:39 [Morbus]

"The Mini-Cons represent the worker race of Cybertron - they keep things running while the big boys play war games."

03:16:43 [Morbus]

pff.

03:16:43 [Morbus]

oofs.

03:16:55 [Morbus]

s/of Cybertron//

03:17:06 [deltab]

hmm, okay

03:17:36 [deltab]

though I didn't mind the mention of the planet

03:17:38 [deltab]

:-)

03:17:42 [Morbus]

heheh.

03:17:48 [Morbus]

what was the issue with it again.

03:17:51 [Morbus]

the "all the action"?

03:18:39 [Morbus]

"The Mini-Cons represent the worker race of Cybertron, the home planet where the Transformers originate - they keep things running while the big boys play war games."

03:18:39 [Morbus]

?

03:18:47 [deltab]

yay

03:19:07 [deltab]

"in' should be "in"

03:19:26 [sbp]

s/while/whilst/

03:20:55 [Morbus]

heh! i had whilst i think

03:21:08 [Morbus]

whilst the big boys?

03:21:29 [sbp]

yep

03:23:22 [sbp]

it's funny: the old Webster doesn't even define while as an adverb. When did that start, I wonder?

03:23:29 [sbp]

.google "while as adverb"

03:23:30 [xena]

"while as adverb": http://www.edonline-net.com/memberHP/newde

03:24:45 [deltab]

Minutes later, slightly wet and minty fresh, a single word droned in my

03:25:11 [sbp]

heh, I love that bit

03:25:33 [deltab]

how do you get your words minty fresh, Morbus? :-)

03:25:47 [Morbus]

oh, posh <g>

03:26:03 [deltab]

don't change it unless you can keep the rhythm

03:26:22 [Morbus]

i'm not sure i want to change it.

03:26:26 [deltab]

good

03:26:54 [sbp]

it'll amuse those who read it as deltab did, anyway

03:27:01 [Morbus]

heh, heh.

03:27:15 [Morbus]

they'll do a search on google for "minty fresh", hit the logs, and start a comraderie.

03:27:26 [Morbus]

some chick will see it, deltab will get married, and i'll get pissed when i don't get invited to the wedding.

03:27:30 [sbp]

.google "minty fresh"

03:27:31 [xena]

"minty fresh": http://www.mintyfresh.com

03:27:41 [deltab]

heh, I liked "woefully understood" in a previous version

03:27:42 [sbp]

heh. Visions of the future, by Morbus Idd

03:27:42 [sbp]

er...

03:27:51 [Morbus]

Morbus Id? heh.

03:28:07 [sbp]

it's close enough

03:28:07 [Morbus]

yeah, I saw that deltab. i was like, "whoa. heh. um." <G>

03:28:52 [sbp]

from mintyfresh.com: "The little untitled piece opening Fugu 1: a blend of piano intermingling with a series of minor and major chords, a cello, a trumpet, an organ, a splash of ocean for sonic background [...]"

03:30:06 [deltab]

has Bill been woefully misunderstood?

03:30:38 [sbp]

yeah, that bit didn't make sense to me either

03:31:03 [deltab]

woefully understood seemed to have some deep meaning

03:31:34 [sbp]

it was cooler that way around

03:31:59 [Morbus]

heh. heh

03:32:12 [Morbus]

well, i don't think bill deserves the picking and torment he gets in the media.

03:32:23 [Morbus]

that's where i was coming from - he's not some evil guy.

03:32:50 [sbp]

picking and torment: what does he care? he's got more money than any other single person on the planet!

03:33:01 [Morbus]

yeah, well, that money could hire someone to fucking kill me, you moron.

03:33:11 [sbp]

oops, didn't think of that

03:33:13 [Morbus]

:)

03:33:21 [Morbus]

i changed it back

03:33:34 [sbp]

so, the plan is: don't slag Bill off, and avoid hired goons

03:33:48 [Morbus]

if someone questions it, i'll just look mischievous and tell them to search on google for it

03:34:08 [sbp]

search for "sbp" and "moron", and you're bound to find these logs

03:34:28 [sbp]

and: funkysplengerfiddle

03:34:43 [sbp]

that's *bound* to come up with these logs

03:35:17 [Morbus]

:)

03:35:23 [Morbus]

any more comments on this?

03:35:30 [Morbus]

i want to send it off.

03:35:50 [sbp]

I like how it's written for ORA especially

03:35:58 [sbp]

what'll you do if you have to take it to evolt?

03:36:10 [sbp]

but that won't happen! send it off. Send!

03:36:22 [deltab]

I think the plural of OS is OSes

03:36:40 [Morbus]

probably nothing besides tearing up all my existing contracts and giving a johnny cash salute

03:36:40 [Morbus]

;)

03:37:02 [Morbus]

even with system(s)?

03:37:15 [Morbus]

if i take it to evolt, i won't change it at all, i think.

03:38:01 [deltab]

Morbus: yeah

03:38:06 [sbp]

won't change it? shut your os!

03:38:12 [Morbus]

heh

03:38:13 [Morbus]

mmkay.

03:38:27 [deltab]

haha, transform sbp into a bank!

03:38:27 [Morbus]

hey, did you know that Robots In Disguise was the slogan of the Transformers?

03:38:32 [deltab]

yes

03:38:36 [Morbus]

ok, good.

03:38:46 [deltab]

in fact:

03:38:52 [deltab]

031046Z <Maur:#espra> I'm getting Robots in Disguise episodes off it right now

03:38:57 [deltab]

031220Z <deltab:#espra> Maur: transformers?

03:38:57 [deltab]

031244Z <Maur:#espra> Transformers, aye

03:38:57 [deltab]

031248Z <deltab:#espra> http://s110.terminal3.totalnetnh.net/decepticons.html

03:38:59 [sbp]

Pff, I didn't! stop keeping secrets, you secret keeping device you

03:39:11 [Morbus]

heh!

03:39:31 [Morbus]

did anyone there have anything to say about it?

03:40:00 [deltab]

031406Z <Maur:#espra> heh

03:41:08 [Morbus]

mmkay. i changed the OSes thing. i'm sending it off.

03:41:19 [Morbus]

anything else you see minutes from now, i'll change in preprod

03:43:36 [Morbus]

if this gets published, that'll be so cool ;)

03:43:47 [deltab]

I've seen that "let's roll" in a couple of places. I'm guessing GWB said it.

03:44:07 [Morbus]

heh. i could see him saying that.

03:48:11 [deltab]

ah, it was one of the passengers on the fourth plane

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http://www.observer.co.uk/waronterrorism/story/0,1373,610355,00.html

03:49:20 [Morbus]

oh no!

03:49:21 [Morbus]

great.

03:49:27 [Morbus]

now i'm gonna be investigated by the fbi.

03:50:29 [deltab]

http://www.post-gazette.com/headlines/20010916phonecallnat3p3.asp

03:52:56 [Morbus]

great.

03:53:06 [Morbus]

now some 9/11 nazi is gonna think i'm being a terrorist nazi.

03:56:54 [sbp]

I should do a little ezine about #swhack. "Information Outcast". No, even better! "At the arse end: the shit hole of the Web"

03:58:10 [sbp]

ah, crap. Now my doggyness is recorded in the archives...

03:58:10 [Morbus]

i found, in my archives, some bloggish stuff I did before the DNN blog.

03:58:20 [sbp]

pre-DNN?

03:58:28 [Morbus]

i can't place an accurate date on it besides filestamps.

03:58:28 [Morbus]

yeah, pre-dnn.

03:58:40 [sbp]

ah. you should have dated it

03:59:13 [Morbus]

i know! i was lame back then. i'm reading through to see if i can find it.the filestamps are 3/12/98

03:59:19 [Morbus]

six months prior to dnn

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but check this out:

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[[[

03:59:39 [Morbus]

<~~~< [End Page 1] >~~~>

03:59:39 [Morbus]

And thus concludes another exciting issue of WebShit. May the shit be

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with you, and other stupid ass phrases like that.

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]]]

03:59:41 [sbp]

wow. Everybody has come so far on the Web since 98ish

03:59:45 [Morbus]

heh.

03:59:46 [sbp]

heh, cool

04:00:08 [Morbus]

this was the mission statement:

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"Commentary on all the sites that I decided to write down on a piece of

04:00:08 [Morbus]

paper because their three line description caught my eye. When the paper

04:00:08 [Morbus]

is full, I visit them and blab about what I feel. Spread as far as the

04:00:08 [Morbus]

eye can see. Make me famous. Whoo dog. Wanna subscribe or something?

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Email me."

04:00:13 [sbp]

the pre-dnn thing: home of stupid ass phrases

04:00:31 [Morbus]

lol

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[[[

04:00:31 [Morbus]

http://www.angelfire.com/hi/hauntedterror/

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email: dtoys@webtv.net

04:00:31 [Morbus]

Ooohh... haunted terror, your worst nightmare! I'm not gonna get out of

04:00:32 [Morbus]

here alive. Also known as the "Suck That Dripped Blood". Burn in hell.

04:00:34 [Morbus]

]]]

04:00:44 [Morbus]

man, i rocked.

04:00:44 [Morbus]

i should throw this stuff up.

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before your computer beats you to it

04:01:25 [Morbus]

heh:

04:01:25 [Morbus]

[[[

04:01:25 [Morbus]

So, today, I get this awesome game off the Internet. And when I start to

04:01:25 [Morbus]

uncompress it, I find out I don't have enough room on my HD. And I will

04:01:25 [Morbus]

never have enough room on my HD. My HD is 320 megs. I need 600 megs to

04:01:26 [Morbus]

uncompress it. So, what do I do? WebShit.

04:01:28 [Morbus]

]]]

04:01:29 [sbp]

* sbp imagines Morbus' computer spewing its guts onto the floor

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the name of this project was called "WebShit"

04:01:43 [sbp]

320MB?! hah!

04:02:01 [Morbus]

man... <g>

04:02:29 [sbp]

So what do I do? Put all of my old crap onto CD-R :-)

04:02:38 [sbp]

ooooh, technology!

04:02:44 [Morbus]

even my OS. cos i'm 'reet ;)

04:03:02 [Morbus]

hehe.

04:03:08 [Morbus]

"this here new cd-r crap is spiffy"

04:03:29 [sbp]

we had to make-do with 8in floppies when I were young!

04:03:35 [Morbus]

aaahhh.

04:03:41 [Morbus]

the quality of internet design never changes:

04:03:41 [Morbus]

[[[

04:03:41 [Morbus]

http://www.angelfire.com/wi/ApocalypseGate

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e: omni.rule@mailcity.com

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a: "apocalypse"; taking over the world

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AHHHHHHHHHHH! CAN'T READ TEXT! BACKGROUND TOO LOUD!

04:03:44 [Morbus]

]]]

04:03:53 [Morbus]

that was all for that one.

04:04:25 [sbp]

I think that we should be allowed to delete other people's stuff

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just you and I

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cause, you know, it'd be fun

04:04:38 [sbp]

first stop: blogspace.com

04:04:48 [Morbus]

that'd be cool.

04:04:48 [sbp]

pick a few choice things out of the logs

04:04:54 [sbp]

next stop: lists.w3.org

04:04:54 [Morbus]

we could take archive.org's cache, and make internet3.

04:05:04 [sbp]

take out a few of my old posts (any before 2001, for a start)

04:05:08 [Morbus]

it'd be like bbs's all over again.

04:05:08 [Morbus]

huh. that's an interesting idea.

04:05:28 [Morbus]

when technology gets so grand that users can have personal copies of the internet on their box.

04:05:29 [sbp]

yep. difficult to put into practice, though

04:05:34 [Morbus]

and can edit and restrict as they please.

04:05:34 [Morbus]

like BBS's of old.

04:05:40 [sbp]

yeah, now that will be cool

04:05:47 [sbp]

"internet-in-a-box"

04:06:02 [sbp]

it won't be long

04:06:17 [sbp]

before 2030

04:06:18 [Morbus]

actually, i bet that product names taken.

04:06:21 [sbp]

there! a grand prediction

04:06:29 [Morbus]

i think i've seen that one before.

04:06:37 [sbp]

I mean, for the size that the Web is now... Hmm... 100TBs worth, perhaps?

04:06:44 [Morbus]

isn't that when the singularity is supposed to happen?

04:06:47 [sbp]

100TB HD... perhaps well before 2030

04:06:53 [Morbus]

i dunno.

04:06:56 [sbp]

Aaron predicts 2012 for that!

04:06:59 [Morbus]

go spider google and let me kno

04:07:00 [sbp]

AFAIK

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it'll be freaky if it happens before 2100, if at all, IMO

04:07:16 [Morbus]

really?

04:07:26 [sbp]

yeah

04:07:37 [sbp]

our odd little morals and ethics won't allow it

04:08:08 [sbp]

civilization will have to crumble before the singularity happens. And if it does, it won't. That's logic

04:08:57 [Morbus]

jeez. no response from derrick.

04:09:03 [Morbus]

he hates me. i knew it.

04:09:18 [Morbus]

oh yeah, shit, i wanted to download the newest omni outliner.

04:09:18 [Morbus]

dammit.

04:09:23 [Morbus]

* Morbus looks at large usenet download queue.

04:09:29 [sbp]

I need to go research stuff. argh

04:09:29 [Morbus]

* Morbus twiddles thumbs.

04:09:52 [Morbus]

yeah, i gotta get some other crap done, i think

04:09:52 [Morbus]

its nearly time for katie to get home

04:10:03 [sbp]

katie?

04:10:18 [Morbus]

the gf

04:10:34 [sbp]

aha

04:10:37 [Morbus]

don't write down her name, i change it every week

04:10:40 [Morbus]

makes me feel like a playa

04:11:02 [sbp]

cool. What are you going to call her next week?

04:11:35 [sbp]

Hmm... we need a Fanny F. Fannington to go with Bob B. Bobbington

04:13:13 [Morbus]

how about William W. Williams?

04:14:10 [Morbus]

"Star Wars star Natalie Portman says she felt like a 'whore'

04:14:10 [Morbus]

while filming love scenes with Darth Vader."

04:14:10 [Morbus]

http://uk.imdb.com/PeopleNews/2002/20020314.html

04:15:17 [Morbus]

alright. i'm out.;

04:15:17 [Morbus]

see everyone monday

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04:27:08 [sbp]

Gotta run

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14:41:44 [sbp]

.commands

14:41:44 [xena]

valid commands:

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- +mask, -mask, access, acronym, act, babel, billennium, c2f, change, commands

14:41:46 [sbp]

.time

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- ctcp, date, dict, die, dns, dtrt, e, email, excuse, f2c

14:41:47 [xena]

- flight, foldoc, fortune, google, help, imdb, intelliquote, isotime, jargon, join

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2002/03/16 14:43:14.2278 Universal

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- login, masks, modules, msg, news, news on, news source, nick, nickometer, part

14:41:49 [xena]

- pig latin, plexname, poker, quit, quote, raw, register, rfc, rot13, search

14:41:50 [xena]

- seen, server, servers, spell, status, symbol for, tavtime, time, translate, unixtime

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- users, weather, webster, when did, whois, wn, zipcode, zope commands

14:47:37 [sbp]

.weather help

14:47:37 [xena]

no weather stations found for help

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.weather KBIS

14:47:42 [xena]

no weather stations found for KBIS

14:48:01 [tomc]

kbis?

14:48:01 [sbp]

.help weather

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.weather KBWI

14:48:32 [xena]

no weather stations found for KBWI

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.weather BWI

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no weather stations found for BWI

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Pff

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@ http://dormouse.cs.umd.edu:8080/wiki/weatherbot.wiki?cmd=get&anchor=WeatherBot

14:49:03 [chumpster]

B: http://dormouse.cs.umd.edu:8080/wiki/weatherbot.wiki?cmd=get&anchor=WeatherBot from sbp

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B:|Weatherbot

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titled item B

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B::"""WeatherBot is a suite of programs which decode, search, and filter weather reports. The starting point for WeatherBot is the raw METAR observations available from NOAA."""

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commented item B

14:56:00 [sbp]

* sbp waves to tom

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long time, no see, tomc!

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* tomc waves at sean

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* sbp wonders if rm has been around...

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I've been doing a prince's trust course, little time for IRC

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until recently :)

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how're you?

14:58:39 [sbp]

brb, computer problems...

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OK

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* sbp returns

16:15:51 [sbp]

couple of neat database/triples things:-

16:15:54 [sbp]

http://www.cs.umd.edu/projects/plus/Parka/ - Parka

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http://www.cs.umd.edu/projects/plus/SHOE/piq.html - PIQ (query)

16:16:51 [sbp]

PARKA is something that we should look into for semplesh - it can run large queries very quickly

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performance report in http://www.cs.umd.edu/projects/plus/Parka/parka-db.html

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* sbp records some songs and uploads/downloads to/from the Web

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hello

23:23:06 [sbp]

hi there rm

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* rm waves

23:24:28 [rm]

sbp: sup?

23:24:51 [sbp]

I'm in song writing, guitar playing, production/arranging mode

23:25:12 [rm]

cool! was just banging on my guitar too

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wish i knew "while my guitar gently weeps"

23:25:40 [rm]

i love that song

23:25:57 [sbp]

Hmm... odd. I've never actually felt like learning that

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* sbp gets the tab

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rare, because usually I just work it out for myself...

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* sbp made the "definitive" tab for Honey Pie

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23:38:35 [sbp]

WMGGW is a neat song. I guess I have to put it on now :-)