00:05:35 .translate english french i have a sweaty nutsack 00:05:37 j'ai en sueur un nutsack 00:05:37 .translate french english j'ai en sueur un nutsack 00:05:37 I have in sweat a nutsack 00:07:35 oh man 00:12:11 heh! 00:16:51 for the record: 00:16:53 * AaronSw is AS868-GANDI 00:19:54 your Dell thingy number? 00:20:03 no, my gandi number 00:20:12 Wes: "Maybe driving in circles in Austin at 1 AM sounds boring, but it really isn't." 00:20:26 .google AS868-GANDI 00:20:28 crud 00:20:55 whois handle 00:22:08 ah... thanks, db 00:22:15 xena (aaronsw@mewtwo.espnow.com) has joined #swhack 00:22:17 xena has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 00:23:02 she came, she saw, she left 00:23:28 no lesbians 00:23:30 xena is messed up or something.. 00:23:50 heh, from xena-vision: <[deleted]> WOO!!! I was outbid!!! YES!! 00:24:29 these love-brides seem attractive at first... 00:24:33 Galahad (xena@mewtwo.espnow.com) has joined #swhack 00:25:02 Galahad is now known as xena 00:27:38 error of the week: 00:27:38 error=FAILED, unknown or transient error 00:27:53 heh 00:27:56 heh 00:28:00 jinx! 00:28:14 .email morbus@disobey.com write jinx bot module 00:28:18 lol 00:28:25 .mail morbus@disobey.com write jinx bot module 00:28:29 grrr 00:28:30 .time 00:28:30 2002/03/14 00:29:58.4984 Universal 00:28:35 .email 00:28:38 .sendmorbus'email 00:28:40 but it was disabled because of abuse 00:28:44 ah 00:28:51 dammit. 00:28:53 that was super handy. 00:29:00 .email morbus@disobey.com write mail bot module 00:29:01 I know 00:29:03 aacccck! 00:29:04 lol 00:29:05 * Morbus blows up. 00:29:07 heh,h eh 00:29:28 AaronSw has changed the topic to: is you or is you ain't the Chargoggagoggmanchauggagoggchaubunagungamaugg? 00:29:59 [pronounced Char-gog-a-gog-man-chug-a-gog-chu-bun-a-gung-a-mahg] 00:30:17 Fun to say. 00:30:27 GabeW has quit ("Client Exiting") 00:30:36 try looking up the Welsh word for "information" :-) 00:30:58 .translate eng-wel information 00:31:13 gwybodaeth, hysbysrwydd, ngwybodaeth 00:31:23 heh. there you go 00:33:43 My mailbox: "PRESSURE PRESSURE PRESSURE." 00:34:11 why? "Lots of people will be hitting our site over the next few weeks. I expect that in the next few days we'll be getting checked out by Lucasfilm Marketing" 00:46:07 George Washington: "Stars? With Stripes? How's that supposed to fit together design-wise?!" 00:46:20 * Morbus chuckles 00:52:44 heh, heh 00:53:19 the stars and stripes were from his family emblem/shield thing though, IIRC 00:53:39 This Stan Freberg CD is funnier than I remember it. 00:57:34 er... "Coat of Arms" 00:59:42 Woo, Norman Rockwell wins the war! 01:29:03 Morbus has left #swhack 01:30:00 Aahz is an androgynous poly kinky vanilla queer het Pythonista 01:30:55 * AaronSw is away: dinner 01:42:00 wmf (wesf@cs242733-11.austin.rr.com) has joined #swhack 01:42:40 the bots are growing in number... soon they will outnumber us... 01:43:34 heh, you could be right. (Aaron went to dinner, BTW, if you're looking for him) 01:43:51 he must have just left 01:44:25 yep; just a few minutes ago 02:22:58 MorbusIff (~Morbus@s116.terminal3.totalnetnh.net) has joined #swhack 02:45:56 * AaronSw waves 02:46:05 wmf, how'd you know? 02:46:30 Morbus (~Morbus@s94.terminal3.totalnetnh.net) has joined #swhack 02:46:55 whois said you'd only been idle a few minutes 02:47:11 new bots? where? 02:47:14 http://www.wrongwaygoback.com/ 02:47:44 I don't know if there are new bots or if I'm just not used to how many there are 02:48:00 new bot is notZakim 02:48:07 oh, and walloper 02:48:15 hmm. 5/14 02:49:15 * AaronSw does the wrong way go back wheelchair motion 02:53:42 heh, Jim Ropecke flamed me for claiming that modems are obsolete 02:55:09 i don't think they are. 02:55:18 you work for an ISP. you don't count. 02:55:25 pff. i'm a user too. 02:55:30 AaronSw: so where should I buy a new drive from? 02:55:48 ignoring the ISP, with the current conditions, I would never get DSL or cable around here. 02:55:50 I got mine from googlegear.com, but I think I got that from price.com or something similar. 02:56:03 why's that, morb? 02:56:26 dsl companies drop like flies here and have to go through Verizon anyways. install times are months, then actually being stable is another month after that. 02:56:52 cable around here is only attbi/mediaone whatever, and we get constant reports about weeklong outages, and tech people who don't have a clue, and have no timetable for reconnection. 02:57:06 keeping a phoneline, no matter how crappy said phone line is, is the only way to guarentee a connection around here. 02:57:14 RoadRunner, despite being an arm of the evil empire, is very reliable 02:57:14 its the only thing the user has "control" over. 02:57:24 ie, if you can't call someone, you can yell at the phone company. 02:57:40 dsl comes from the phone company 02:57:50 wmf: there was a week long outage in Merrimack, NH a few months back 02:57:57 yes, AaronSw, but DSL is typically only for net connections. 02:58:01 phone lines are for both. 02:58:17 now, the telco can say they can't guarentee bandwidth or internet connectivity, but they have to guarentee voice calls. 02:58:27 thus, you have some dependance that your internet connection will work. 02:58:59 ugh, pricewatch doesn't distinguish 2.5" and 3.5" drives 03:01:08 MorbusIff has quit (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 03:03:14 AaronSw, did you see the Amazon XML thing? that's kinda neat. 03:03:24 no. url? 03:03:34 mentioned on syndic8 a few hours ago 03:03:45 still want the url? 03:03:56 yes 03:04:08 not subscribed to syndic8 anymore 03:04:28 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/syndic8/message/1502 03:04:38 and http://groups.yahoo.com/group/syndic8/message/1503 03:04:47 you're not? i thought you just posted about media types. 03:04:57 yeah, i had to subscribe for that 03:05:08 AaronSw does the hit-and-run 03:05:23 i should probably go see if anyone responded 03:05:35 yah, someone did, but i did't read it ;) 03:05:37 I get a 404 on that URL. 03:05:53 what url? syndic8? 03:06:01 no, amazon 03:06:16 yeah, did you concat on the last line? 03:06:33 oops 03:08:31 My books are: Jesse Jackson, Michael Moore, "American Jihad", "Ambling into History", Pat Buchanan(!), Chomsky, "Blinded by the Right", "One Nation", Nader, Pagan, Clinton Abuses, Suck up, globalization, nickel and dimed 03:09:00 s/my/Politics/ 03:11:28 hmm, I plugged in my camera and it looked like something was launching, but nothing happened 03:11:36 usb module? 03:12:07 I guess I'll just launch iPhoto by hand 03:12:44 wmf, what's a good source on identity standards? 03:13:22 the digital identity weblog (linked in my bookmarks) 03:13:38 .google digital identity weblog 03:13:39 digital identity weblog: http://weblog.digital-identity.info 03:13:49 or you could find it that way :-) 03:14:03 hm, dns isn't resolving 03:14:03 .dns weblog.digital-identity.info 03:14:03 weblog.digital-identity.info - 213.237.145.45 03:14:42 .dns digital-identity.info 03:14:42 digital-identity.info - 213.237.145.145 03:15:32 whoa, that site is freaky. 03:16:51 what's freaky about it? 03:17:07 I don't want my digital identity to be at di-people.com 03:17:16 it's all a little sci-fi... 03:17:26 (not the weblog, the speenames thing) 03:18:26 I guess I shouldn't post this photo of Cam taking a photo of me 03:18:35 yes you should! 03:18:54 it's too obligatory 03:18:57 The Lisa everyone's talking about is Lisa Rein, right? 03:19:03 right 03:19:08 I should link her 03:19:33 It's funny, because I was reading camworld and it said: "Lisa Rein just walked up to me and handed me a Starbucks iced mocha. She rocks." and then the phone rang, and it was Lisa, and I said, "Lisa, you rock." 03:19:45 heh 03:19:53 And it did, because she had gotten me a trip to Honolulu. 03:20:26 I hung out with her and Cory a lot 03:20:34 i need some good intro documentation from the /Developer/Documentation that won't scare peopple 03:22:09 SXSW sounds really cool. too bad i couldn't go 03:23:03 Citizen Cope rules 03:24:26 (i.e. south-by-southwest, a big conference in Austin... which used to be about signing garage bands to record contracts, but now has a large web-designer slant) 03:24:34 whoa, iPhoto is not saving my comments 03:24:48 iThink iPhoto doesn't like you. 03:24:54 grrrr 03:25:41 iWonder if my hard drive is making a funny sound or if I just never noticed it before 03:25:46 anyone watch samurai jack? 03:28:12 Heh: "Mom, if you're reading, I can explain the whole dick thing. On the phone. Later." 03:28:32 source? 03:28:41 http://www.powazek.com/zoom/log/archive/00000340.shtml 03:29:22 The People want the {fray} webcast 03:30:58 er, yeah 03:31:23 huh. did anyone ever notice that localhost and 127.0.0.1 have the same number of chars? 03:31:27 you need more webcasting austinites to read your blog 03:32:26 hopefully the video will be posted soon enough 03:34:14 dave's back on the world outline instant messanging track 03:34:21 * AaronSw plays Citizen Cope - If There's Love 03:34:44 * Morbus plays a track from the Silent Hill OST 03:36:59 lol: http://radio.weblogs.com/0001015/images/2002/03/13/messageForSimon.gif 03:39:04 LOL 03:40:53 now to crop, resize, and post about 30 photos to HTP... :-( 03:41:21 That's the kind of thing that makes me like Zope 03:41:25 Maybe the only thing... 03:41:44 just drag and drop and the photos are on the Web. 03:42:12 er, there's still the cropping and resizing 03:42:34 Zope resizes them for you 03:42:50 ok, that's cool 03:43:42 and it's pretty easy to crop in iPhoto 03:44:07 on-the-fly resizing rocks 03:44:27 oh, I have to forward this email I just got to you 03:44:47 Interesting: http://www.archub.org/ 03:44:54 * AaronSw checks his mial 03:44:56 err mail 03:46:28 I'm not sure whether to laugh or cry at that email. 03:46:51 * AaronSw makes note not to move to Iraq 03:46:58 I wonder why that was sent to me 03:47:05 dammit. 03:47:05 what do you folks use for newsservers? 03:47:09 google hack, man 03:47:18 what do you folks use for *binary* newsservers? 03:47:19 Morbus, my ISP runs one for me. doesn't yours? or does it SUCK? 03:47:34 heh, we farm out to some third party. 03:47:44 which only keeps about 2500 worth of backposts. 03:47:47 Heh: http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/world/middle_east/newsid_269000/269399.stm 03:47:55 which is cramping style for binary people. 03:48:07 2500 per group, rather 03:48:34 Is Jon Udell's newsgroup a warez haven? 03:48:46 FTR netnews.attbi.com 03:49:16 ftr? 03:49:22 for the record 03:49:40 alt.fan.jon-udell.warez? 03:51:10 news://news.cmpnet.com/cmp.joncon.warez 03:51:28 oops, cmpnet.byte.joncon.warez 03:53:11 citizen cope is good. 03:53:35 * wmf nods 03:54:07 You have to post that email next time some hacker posts to your DG. ;-) 03:54:26 mwahahaa! 03:55:53 Hm, Reuters picked up the googlebombing story 03:56:21 Phantom Planet is good, too 03:56:35 is that good austin show on now? 03:56:43 Morbus has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 03:56:46 no, that's sundays 03:56:57 but my changer is full of new CDs 03:57:08 Hm, AG hosts phantom planet. 04:02:42 you need to post more pics so I can M8K 04:02:46 ;-) 04:03:57 M8K? 04:04:07 Message 8000 04:04:20 ah 04:05:02 it's going to be a while 04:05:20 that just tells me you didn't take enough pictures :) 04:06:17 at about 1 minute/photo, there's no way I'm posting hundreds 04:06:29 besides, I might fill up a disk on the server 04:06:30 You need the power of the Zope photo album! 04:06:47 Heh, doesn't wmf.editthispage.com have its own server yet? 04:07:20 that would be funny 04:08:00 I think I'll avoid posting all these unflattering photos 04:08:23 aww. 04:08:29 you can post them of felterlog ;) 04:08:33 heh 04:08:55 lol! he modified the logo: http://felterlog.editthispage.com/ 04:13:11 lol, nice logo 04:16:18 sbp- (~sean@63.149.73.20) has joined #swhack 04:19:45 two sbps 04:22:14 sbp has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 04:23:12 sbp- is now known as sbp 04:23:35 -- 04:23:36 .seen tav|sleep 04:23:36 tav|sleep seen changing nickname to tav ~ 8 day(s) 9 hr(s) 17 min(s) 45 sec(s) ago 04:23:36 bah 04:23:36 *** tav is now known as tav|sleep 04:23:36 -- 04:23:45 that's an interesting way to keep track of your sleep 04:31:39 heh 04:37:13 OK, that's enough photos for now 04:38:06 the sad state of the Web: http://wmf.editthispage.com/stories/storyReader$232 04:38:50 where did all the photos go? 04:39:01 linkrotted 04:39:05 BenSw (~yoda@12-249-96-16.client.attbi.com) has joined #swhack 04:39:09 Hey Ben 04:39:25 notice how the only ones remaining have you in them 04:39:37 Wes holds the Web together. 04:39:38 hello 04:39:50 heh, people don't delete photos of me 04:40:05 I hate it my hub power cord comes out in the middle of the day sometimes :( 04:40:08 I know Brad won't delete his photos of me 04:40:11 * AaronSw tries the Web Archive 04:45:37 2/9 04:45:37 my connection is dead again 04:45:38 and it's back 04:45:42 2/11 04:47:12 Gotta run 04:47:58 phantom planet was good too. got any more band recommendations? 04:48:43 Unwritten Law (try "seeing red") 04:49:23 ...And You Will Know us by the Trail of Dead (aka Trail of Dead, try "Relative Ways") 04:50:36 "Known for the legendarily incendiary live shows these indie rockers use noise and chaos for catharsis and mellow tranquility to disturb." 04:51:25 also Pop Unknown and Subset (Austin) 04:52:00 heh: http://radio.weblogs.com/0001015/instantOutliner/bullMancuso.opml 04:53:40 * AaronSw sends thanks to the AGers 04:56:06 oops Manila bug 04:56:56 redmonk (sid@ip68-2-179-170.ph.ph.cox.net) has joined #swhack 04:57:05 redmonk is now known as rm 04:57:10 hey rm 04:57:17 http://wmf.editthispage.com/stories/storyReader$7247 04:59:59 ooh, new version of sputnix 04:59:59 and my internet is down again. 04:59:59 and back 05:03:32 "The 1990's was a decade devoted to accessibility." seems like hyperbole. 05:06:49 Heh: "If arsenic fails, try algebra" 05:06:57 yeah 05:09:21 * wmf sings 05:09:30 dear mom, I'm dating an actress... 05:11:17 which one is that? 05:11:40 lemme check 05:12:16 Unwritten Law, "Actress, Model..." 05:15:07 rm has quit ("cya") 05:16:06 wow, 2.95/mo. is cheap 05:16:35 for what? 05:16:49 AG Gold 05:17:13 does he come to my house for that price, or do I have to get the Platinum? 05:17:29 who do you want to come to your house? 05:17:45 AccordionGuy (joking) 05:17:50 Heh, heh 05:18:23 He's got to make a living for peek-a-booty somehow! 05:18:46 I wouldn't pay him to show up, but he's welcome any time, since he's likely to have a swarm of women following 05:18:59 * AaronSw chuckles 05:19:39 This is awesome, Peek-A-Bear goes to war: http://www.peek-a-booty.org/pbhtml/images/topics/warbear.gif 05:19:42 going to work today was a big change... 05:20:03 no webloggers or beautiful women, eh? 05:20:13 yeah 05:24:32 oh wow, the new spunix can play songs from the client 05:25:39 actress/model/dancer whateeeeever 05:30:59 redmonk (sid@68.2.179.170) has joined #swhack 05:31:09 redmonk is now known as rm 05:33:38 GabeW (~gwachob@12-236-237-100.client.attbi.com) has joined #swhack 05:51:13 Itamar: "Twisted is an event-driven framework for internet servers. Zope3 is the next generation Zope system. Together, they fight crime!" 05:51:35 is zope3 using twisted? 05:51:45 i doubt it 05:51:45 @ http://flyenhancer.org/ 05:51:49 A: http://flyenhancer.org/ from AaronSw 05:51:57 A:|Fly Genome Search Engine 05:51:58 titled item A 05:52:14 A::Written in Python, I suspect by [?!ng|http://web.lfw.org/ping/] 05:52:14 commented item A 05:53:02 A::Will Fly Enhancer produce a superfly? Or just Jeff Goldblum? 05:53:04 commented item A 05:53:10 * AaronSw giggles 05:53:12 @ http://web.lfw.org/python/pydev-sample/ 05:53:14 B: http://web.lfw.org/python/pydev-sample/ from AaronSw 05:53:25 let's just hope they don't start Worm Enhancer 05:53:34 chomp chomp 05:53:42 B:|Output from Ping's Automated Mailing List Summarizer 05:53:44 titled item B 05:53:58 a superworm is going to shut down the internet, dontchaknow 05:54:17 Especially when we mix in some Warhol DNA 05:54:21 supa dupa worm 05:54:33 worm DNA in 4-color prints! 05:55:01 Bruce has some kind of human genome poster in his kitcchen 05:55:22 rm has quit (""back in a few"") 05:59:59 redmonk (sid@ip68-2-179-170.ph.ph.cox.net) has joined #swhack 06:05:07 wow, I didn't know Ping worked at ILM 06:05:25 and PARC... 06:05:45 geez, Alias|Wavefront too. 06:05:58 and Foresight 06:06:09 eh, everyone knows that 06:06:15 oddly it's not on his resume tho. 06:08:13 Hm, he learned LISP in 8th grade... 06:10:27 grrr, damn random Entourage messages! 06:10:58 heh 06:11:00 redmonk is now known as rm 06:11:45 Apple's graphical diff tool looks a lot like Udanax Green. 06:11:52 I only tried to send a 5MB message! 06:11:58 :-) 06:12:49 FileMerge is coooool 06:12:57 right, that's what it's called. 06:14:46 ugh. wmf: what does "malforrmed header from script mean? 06:15:58 in apache logs 06:16:02 any idea? 06:16:22 itamar has made zope3 and twisted work together its not optimal though. 06:17:26 rm, it means you're returning bad or nonexistant headers 06:17:33 hm. 06:17:36 lovely 06:17:42 the downward spiral continues 06:17:50 you should be returning something like: 06:17:54 i need to refactor, but i'm afraid ;-) 06:17:56 print "Content-Type: text/html" 06:17:57 prin 06:17:58 err print 06:18:11 yeah i am 06:18:31 does it say what the malformed header is? 06:19:32 hang on 06:19:51 rm: you wouldn't have this problem if you were using EJBs 06:20:07 heh. moore cofffee! 06:20:44 wmf: yeah, 'cause i'd still be doing use-cases 06:20:47 (you'd have totally different and much worse ones :-) ) 06:21:02 lol 06:21:26 "Premature end of script headers: /Library/WebServer/CGI-Executables/anno.py" 06:21:41 at dinner last night (seems like days ago...) we were debating the origin of using the term "Enterprise" to describe BigCos 06:21:57 rm: thats often when stdout is empty (ie exception before any content printed out) 06:22:23 wes, didn't it come in with the rest of the pop culture star trek terminology? 06:22:33 that was Lisa's suggestion 06:22:57 * AaronSw smiles. Good ol' Lisa. 06:23:21 lame: 552 Message size exceeds fixed maximum message size: 5242880 bytes 06:23:33 i thought you had your own smtp server 06:23:42 Scottyize the Enterprise 06:23:49 that's from the recipient's server 06:24:02 did gilmore shut down his relay BTW? 06:24:15 I thought he brought it back up... 06:24:29 * AaronSw imagines BigCos disappearing in the star trek transporter dazzle 06:24:33 Lisa was trying to use it at SXSW and it didn't work 06:24:45 rm has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 06:24:51 looks like toad.com is down altogether. The [deleted]s. 06:25:07 motherfuckers 06:26:26 Hmm. http://cryptome.org/verio-censorship.html 06:26:59 redmonk (sid@ip68-2-179-170.ph.ph.cox.net) has joined #swhack 06:27:09 redmonk is now known as rm 06:27:40 Gilmore should make his special software available. 06:27:53 is that like special sauce? 06:27:59 enterprisefunk: redundancy, redundancy, redundancy, redundancy 06:28:08 hehe 06:28:45 special software all on a GNU/Linux bun 06:28:55 hehe 06:29:12 ok, i've done everything i can think of to the headers on this fscking script 06:29:18 and still 06:29:24 is the script crashing? 06:29:30 are you using cgitb? 06:29:37 Premature end of script headers: /Library/WebServer/CGI-Executables/anno.py 06:29:41 did you try running the script from the shell? 06:29:44 it never getds to it 06:29:53 gets to what? 06:30:50 yes, i got cgitb, and it does not work 06:30:56 do i need to import it? 06:31:13 yeah 06:31:35 well, no diff 06:31:39 and wrap your script in the try: .... cgitb.t...() wrapper 06:31:53 well, i wrapped the main() call, yeah 06:32:18 oh, hm. in python2.2 you can do import cgitb; cgitb.enable() 06:32:52 that's cool 06:33:02 still no luck 06:33:16 wish i can put this in cvs :-( 06:33:21 er, wish i had 06:34:19 I think I better go to sleep now. Nite 06:34:23 * AaronSw is away: sleep 06:35:26 cya 06:35:31 *sigh* 06:36:54 figures. notw i get it 06:37:02 well, good for me. 06:37:03 ;-) 06:38:59 wooohooooo 06:39:03 cgitb rocks 06:39:12 i'm in love 06:39:47 rm has quit ("uh huh. uh huh uh huh uh huh.") 06:42:40 GabeW has quit ("Client Exiting") 07:04:55 wmf has quit ("zzzz") 10:00:25 tansaku_sftwre_fcked (~sam@n145-061.tokyu-net.catv.ne.jp) has joined #swhack 10:18:09 notZakim has quit (Remote closed the connection) 10:24:05 kensaku (~sam@n145-061.tokyu-net.catv.ne.jp) has joined #swhack 10:35:44 tansaku_sftwre_fcked has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 13:04:10 kensaku has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 13:51:28 Morbus (~morbus@morbus.totalnetnh.net) has joined #swhack 14:08:52 Morbus has quit ("http://www.disobey.com/") 14:09:06 MorbusIff (~morbus@morbus.totalnetnh.net) has joined #swhack 14:10:32 MorbusIff is now known as Morbus 14:21:01 redmonk (sid@ip68-2-179-170.ph.ph.cox.net) has joined #swhack 14:21:23 redmonk is now known as rm 14:41:07 anyone awake out there? 14:53:21 yup 14:54:43 hey 14:54:57 what's up? 14:57:11 nothing all too excting. 14:57:15 messing with a perlbot right now. 14:58:12 ah 14:58:40 i've been hacking on an annotea-vocab-based python cgi 14:58:51 how's that coming? 14:58:57 much better 14:59:11 you can get the results now as rss 14:59:34 and store annotations for multiple uris 14:59:51 but mine area all "seeAlso" relationships right now 15:00:15 eventually it will morph into an annotation app for the plesh 15:03:55 ah, you're workion on plesh? cool. 15:04:40 sort of 15:05:06 i'm vice-janitor in charge of killing applications 15:05:13 er, killer applications ;-) 15:05:15 heh, heh. 15:14:56 so what'ds on the TODO list for aphetadesk? 15:15:45 tansaku_sftwre_fcked (~sam@n144-001.tokyu-net.catv.ne.jp) has joined #swhack 15:15:55 heh, there are tons and tons of things on the tood. 15:15:58 and no time to do them. 15:16:05 :-( 15:16:07 ;-) 15:16:10 i'm actually not working on the todo now, i'm workign on a modularized codebase. 15:16:18 which, once finished (if finished), will be much much better. 15:16:26 streaming updates, wrapper exe's. it'll just be so insanely better. 15:16:34 i bet 15:16:36 cool. 15:17:01 how about re-orging the results so that all the new items are together, no matter where they're from ;-) 15:17:36 on the todo. 15:17:41 here, lemme show you the todo. 15:18:24 http://cvs.sourceforge.net/cgi-bin/viewcvs.cgi/amphetadesk/AmphetaDesk/docs/TODO?rev=1.49&content-type=text/vnd.viewcvs-markup 15:18:48 some of the easy stuff has been done as I remodularized. 15:20:28 cool 15:20:34 good for you 15:23:47 i've got huge plans for it. 15:23:51 but no time. 15:23:53 i bet 15:23:57 sounds familiar 15:23:59 i'm getting about an hour a week of dev on it. sigh. 15:24:05 ugh. 15:24:23 so what do you do when not hacking amp or writing for o'reilly? 15:24:54 working full time, answering email, working on gamegrene (i control it, and i have to babysit 12 writers, handle schedules, payment, etc.) 15:25:05 trying to keep up on news reading. 15:25:11 blah blah blah. 15:25:13 heh 15:25:23 and I try to get in an hour of book/magazine reading a night 15:25:27 and an hour of game playing. 15:25:36 cool. 15:25:36 right now, i'm getting about 1/2 hour of reading, and thats it. 15:25:39 and five hours of sleep. 15:25:41 sigh. 15:25:43 bummer 15:26:11 oh, and then there's eating and shitting. 15:26:14 that crap is hella annoying. 15:26:16 totally unprodutive. 15:26:22 i have magazines in the bathroom. 15:26:34 but i go so infrequently that I get maybe a paragraph of reading done. 15:26:35 that's no good. 15:26:45 i bet you dont care 15:27:26 hm. 15:27:48 oh, and now i just took this other project on for a good friend. 15:27:56 he's the owner of a local video store in town. it rocks. 15:27:57 information wanted (fingers close together), information given (arms wide) ;-) 15:28:03 cool 15:28:13 you walk in and he'll belike "oh, hey, there's a new movie you'll like" and godammit, yeah, you will. 15:28:21 he does that for everybody. the guy's a regular maltin. 15:28:28 excellent 15:28:34 so, he has about 11,000 movies in his shop. 15:28:37 and he wants to bring them to the web. 15:28:42 that's where i come in ;) 15:28:44 cooooool 15:28:58 which isn't that bad, because I have about 350 movies in my collection, and i need a better way of cataloguing them too. 15:29:06 so this is just really forcing me to get my collection organized. 15:29:08 but still... 15:29:11 you know. 15:29:15 i do. 15:33:01 Morbus has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 15:33:20 Morbus (~morbus@morbus.totalnetnh.net) has joined #swhack 15:53:53 rm has quit ("cya") 15:57:00 AaronSw has quit ("Reconnecting to server - dircproxy 1.0.3") 15:57:00 AaronSw (~aaronsw@63.149.73.20) has joined #swhack 16:01:19 woo, got my "certificate of course completion" from driving school 16:03:42 notZakim (~swhack-br@63.149.73.20) has joined #swhack 16:03:42 notZakim_1 (~swhack-br@63.149.73.20) has joined #swhack 16:03:43 notZakim_1 has quit (Remote closed the connection) 16:16:49 redmonk (sid@ip68-2-179-170.ph.ph.cox.net) has joined #swhack 16:17:00 redmonk is now known as rm 16:49:28 ping 16:49:33 ooh, well-done Aaron 16:59:48 well done, what? 17:00:53 woo, got my "certificate of course completion" from driving school 17:02:58 ah 17:04:21 rm has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 17:28:04 Morbus has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 17:29:31 Morbus (~morbus@morbus.totalnetnh.net) has joined #swhack 17:50:02 GabeW (~Gabe@12-236-237-100.client.attbi.com) has joined #swhack 18:45:30 tansaku_sftwre_fcked has quit (devlin.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net) 18:45:31 oierw` has quit (devlin.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net) 18:45:31 deus_x has quit (devlin.openprojects.net irc.openprojects.net) 18:47:31 oierw|sleep-school (~mathew@pcp994425pcs.goosck01.sc.comcast.net) has joined #swhack 18:47:33 tansaku_sftwre_fcked (~sam@n145-122.tokyu-net.catv.ne.jp) has joined #swhack 19:17:17 GabeW has quit ("Client Exiting") 19:35:58 "DVD Player 3.1.1 adds features for DVD authoring, including the ability to select and play the contents of a 'VIDEO_TS' folder from a local volume. This update also adds AppleScript support for selection and playback of DVD content. A Script menu makes it easy to add and run custom scripts. Also new is a 'wide' layout for the info window and various stability enhancements." 19:36:00 Very interesting. 19:36:13 A big boon for the DVD sharers. 21:29:42 'To recieve an F, a flag had to be so awful that its level of badness was clearly qualitatively different from that of any flag receiving a D. I had to feel that a country receiving an F had really set out to create a genuinely horrible flag, or didn't really know what a flag was. One prominent vexillologist I consulted put it thus: "Some countries' flags look like tea towels. If you'd rather be using the flag as a tea towel, and your tea towel as the flag, 21:29:45 .wn vexillologist 21:29:58 .webster vexillologist 21:30:19 - http://138.251.140.21/~josh/flags/ 21:30:48 "In the end, only three countries received such a distinction, all U.S. territories (hence my suspicions about the US using its security council veto to block the bringing of bad flag designers to justice). Of these, I wouldn't even trust the Northern Mariana Islands flag to clean my cutlery - it's probably not colourfast." 21:33:24 that page has me in hysterics 21:33:28 that = http://138.251.140.21/~josh/flags/meth.html 21:44:14 That's cool. He's got a description in RDF: http://138.251.140.21/~josh/index.rdf 21:55:08 AaronSw has changed the topic to: Happy Pi Day! 21:55:40 @ http://www.google.com/search?q=happy%20pi%20day 21:55:46 C: Google Search: happy pi day from AaronSw 21:55:51 C:|Happy Pi Day! 21:55:54 titled item C 21:56:13 .time 21:56:13 2002/03/14 21:57:40.9339 Universal 21:56:35 eh. 21:59 is kinda like 1:59 21:56:48 C::Don't forget the [Pi Day Songs|http://www.winternet.com/~mchristi/piday.html]. 21:56:51 commented item C 21:58:08 C::Check out Eve's [Pi photos|http://www.photo.net/photodb/presentation?presentation_id=1561]. 21:58:10 commented item C 22:05:33 hrm. 22:05:38 did the yahoo outage start already? 22:05:43 or am I being dumb. 22:05:51 i just tried to send to syndic8@yahoo.com 22:05:55 and it got bounced. 22:06:17 yahoo outage? 22:06:29 yeah, there's a scheduled outage of yahoo groups. 22:06:54 http://groups.yahoo.com/local/service.html 22:06:56 nope, not yet. 22:06:59 not one where they delete nearly all the archives, I hope 22:07:00 hmm. wonder why this mail didn't go. 22:07:09 probably, they'r emoving to a new service. 22:07:13 perfect time to "fix" things 22:08:29 pff: (reason: 554 delivery error: dd This user doesn't have a yahoo.com account (syndic8@yahoo.com) - mta574.mail.yahoo.com) 22:08:41 am i missing something? 22:08:43 looks right to me. 22:09:46 heh. deus_x: http://www.livejournal.com/talkread.bml?journal=idle_thoughts&itemid=46451 22:10:09 morbus, yahoogroups.com 22:10:12 not yahoo.com 22:10:31 * AaronSw smacks Morbus' forehead for him 22:10:49 pff. that was fricking obvious. 22:10:49 sigh. 22:10:58 thanks. 22:11:15 sure. 22:11:17 @ http://www.oblomovka.com/code/haiku.php3 22:11:20 D: Oblomovka from AaronSw 22:11:31 D:|"Found Haiku" discoverer 22:11:32 titled item D 22:12:01 D::Python from Danny O'Brian 22:12:03 commented item D 22:12:08 goddamit. 22:12:14 i hate blogjumping. 22:12:15 C::We need to run this on the Swhack logs... 22:12:16 commented item C 22:12:24 flipping one blog says "ooh, apple releases new mailing lists! click here for more!" 22:12:31 so i click here for more. i read the larger article. 22:12:37 i click "click here for more information". 22:12:48 i get sent to someone else's flipping blog with the link i'm looking for. 22:13:09 C:: "When we speak of free / software, we are referring / to freedom, not price." 22:13:10 commented item C 22:13:11 grr. stop shallow linking, dammit. deep link! deeep link! 22:13:23 deeeeep 22:14:57 ooh. suse 8 22:21:01 C:: "George W. Bush / and company. That's what this / tour is all about." - [Michael Moore|http://www.michaelmoore.com/diaries/book_diary_2002_0311.html] 22:21:03 commented item C 22:23:27 They escorted me / and the few remaining souls / out of the building. 22:25:01 - ibid. 22:34:32 http://www.eblong.com/zarf/osx-log.html 22:38:28 @ http://haughey.com/sxsw/2002/desktops/ 22:38:31 E: Index of /sxsw/2002/desktops from AaronSw 22:38:43 E:|Matt Haughey: "fight the mouse." 22:38:45 titled item E 22:43:18 Pi day? you crack me up 22:43:33 What? It's a major holiday! 22:43:37 :-) 22:43:44 * sbp thinks that it should be 22:43:58 I can't believe they let people like you on the Internet. 22:44:04 what's "fight the mouse" all about? 22:44:06 me??? 22:44:14 Yeah, without knowing about Pi day. 22:44:32 well, you can never really have a Pi time 22:44:37 why not? 22:44:43 03-14 15:92:65.35 22:44:48 doesn't quite work 22:44:57 1:59, silly 22:45:18 Pff. Non-ISO! 22:45:29 At my house we have Pi time (3:14), 2Pi time (6:28), backwards Pi time (4:13), etc. 22:45:49 heh, yeah, you told me about that... Do you schedule your dinners/lunch for those times? 22:46:00 you could have Pie at Pi time 22:46:00 Heh, that's a good idea. 22:46:13 Indeed - much better than silly Tea Time. 22:46:18 Tea isn't even a number. Sheesh. 22:46:26 yeah. What were they thinking? 22:47:15 * sbp is quite exhausted 22:47:17 -- 22:47:18 Learn Pi to 31 digits! 22:47:19 Now I, even I, would celebrate 22:47:20 In rhymes unapt, the great 22:47:20 Immortal Syracusan, rivalled nevermore 22:47:20 Who, in his wondrous lore 22:47:20 Passed on before 22:47:22 Left men his guidance 22:47:25 How to circles mensurate. 22:47:26 -- 22:50:49 Morbus has quit ("http://www.disobey.com/") 22:56:41 So did Jim say anything interesting? 22:57:13 yep. I took some notes and so forth, but I'm hoping that proper slides will be online. They gave a good impression of the overall talk 22:57:59 You mean he didn't show of the URL at the beginning? 22:58:03 it was very interesting indeed; slanted towards the non-technical side (to accomodate the audience, I suppose), and it was fun hearing people's reactions from the whole thing 22:58:36 nope 22:58:43 Pf. 23:00:39 one idea that I got whilst listening to the thing was how close P3P/rulebases/WOT are to each other 23:01:15 that's an area which is just waiting to emerge, but there need to be more base-level applications beforehand, I guess 23:01:35 * AaronSw giggles at http://www.ximian.com/imagewrap.html?image=/images/screenshots/ximian_desktop/monkeytalk1.png 23:01:44 what do you mean? 23:02:38 wal|busy (~wshaari@pc-80-193-211-78-hr.blueyonder.co.uk) has joined #swhack 23:02:55 wal|busy has left #swhack 23:03:09 e.g. that rules are just a form of content, and trusting content is the domain of P3P 23:03:38 interesting 23:03:45 but that's in the future, since there are barely any RDF-ish rules on the Web as it is 23:04:17 speaking of rules... that reminds me: i wanted to organize a phone BOF 23:04:27 but you can imagine, for example, someone saying that this is a trusted conversion between two languages, endorsed by the creators of both of those languages... 23:04:33 a BOF for what? SWish? 23:04:54 prospective topics: RDF APIs, Integrating trust/probability into RDF systems 23:05:22 heh; the probability one is interesting (probably) 23:05:30 Heh. 23:05:45 A conversation between languages? 23:05:50 oh, conversion 23:09:34 E::Austin Chronicle: [Free the Mouse!|http://www.austinchronicle.com/issues/dispatch/2002-03-08/screens_feature11.html] 23:09:37 commented item E 23:09:45 Morbus (~Morbus@s109.terminal3.totalnetnh.net) has joined #swhack 23:11:52 ah, the MM Protection Act 23:12:14 excuse me, but me jerking off is not proper discussion for swhack 23:12:30 er... yes it is 23:12:35 oh. 23:12:48 jeez, i've got reams of material in that case 23:12:57 Uh oh! What have I done?! 23:13:08 insert evil laugh here 23:13:14 GabeW (~Gabe@12-236-237-100.client.attbi.com) has joined #swhack 23:14:06 man, it was just 3:14 on 3/14! 23:14:27 i can't wait until its 7:06 on June 6th. 23:14:37 yeah, but 7.06 is not pi! 23:14:47 no, its something more powerful ;) 23:15:24 23:15:24 23:15:28 what's 7.06? 23:15:52 come now. you're smarter than that. 23:15:56 what sort of numbers would Morbus like? 23:16:33 Hm. 23:20:14 ok. 23:20:18 how about a hint. 23:20:23 what month number is june? 23:20:29 6! 23:20:36 and now put three of them side by side? 23:20:39 oh. 666? 23:20:43 mmhmm 23:20:47 7:06 is 6:66 23:20:55 aha 23:21:18 wow, that's bent logic 23:21:25 heh heh 23:21:30 would you expect anything less? 23:21:34 I just assumed June was the 7th month 23:21:38 Hmm... good point 23:21:57 you assumed wrong! wronig!!! 23:22:02 jesus, what grade are you supposed to be in, AaronSw? ;) 23:22:24 At least I can spell wrawng. 23:22:29 bam! 23:22:35 * Morbus points and laughs 23:23:34 Homer: I am so smart, I am so smart, S-M-R-T... I mean, S-M-A-R-T... 23:23:45 yeh, I made the same assumption 23:24:02 i need to call july up and have her kick your asses 23:24:05 6/6 at 6:66 23:24:33 july? 23:24:35 @ http://www.nytimes.com/2002/03/14/technology/circuits/14MANN.html 23:24:40 F: Register at NYTimes.com from AaronSw 23:24:48 the sixth month is June! 23:25:16 you need to call June up... 23:25:17 yeah, i know. 23:25:18 F:|At Airport Gate, a Cyborg (Steve Mann) Unplugged 23:25:19 titled item F 23:25:25 but you think july likes being thought of as june! 23:25:29 she has risen above july! 23:25:36 she's sick and tired of the scorn, the putdowns. 23:25:50 er... and you think that June *enjoys* it? Think again, mister 23:26:12 hey, look you, April MayD June so she has to suffer 23:26:34 its just like how seven ate nine. there's nothing you can do. 23:26:55 man, i excel at stupid shit 23:27:19 F::And because of this, he couldn't make it to his SXSW presentation, but he [presented it digitally|http://www.sxswblog.com/note.asp?id=13]. 23:27:20 commented item F 23:33:02 er. 23:33:06 heh: here we sit, enough bandwidth to drive a Mack truck through, and there's nothing to watch. If only we could get a free download of "Steamboat Willie." 23:33:07 .google blosxom 23:33:08 blosxom: http://www.oreillynet.com/~rael/lang/perl/blosxom 23:33:15 - the Austin Chronicle Ad 23:33:21 s/Ad/Art./ 23:33:35 Hmm... how does one go about plunking letters over dots? 23:37:03 anyone know the url for the live steve mann feed? 23:37:18 .google live steve mann feed 23:37:19 live steve mann feed: http://wearcam.org 23:37:56 not a noun? what is it then? 23:37:58 ah: http://eyetap.org/tpw/index.php 23:38:29 [olm] 23:39:56 cool. Mann says GNU Linux 23:40:14 We should start making sure that the software we produce is COSHER 23:40:19 according to http://wearcam.org/cosher.htm 23:40:29 "Completely Open Source, Headers, Engineering, and Research" 23:41:39 "MOL is also an acceptable acronym" - [MOL] 23:42:44 ever get the feeling that you're the only one left in the room talking, and everyone else has gone to the pub? 23:43:14 sorry, what did you say? I was at the pub 23:43:19 heh, heh, heh 23:43:44 aha, here's the live feed: http://wearcam.org/myview.html 23:43:47 I can just imagine Aaron playing Morbus at pool, with deltab passed-out in the corner 23:45:16 live feed: PDN 23:45:24 PDN? 23:45:31 It's been off since 94 or so :( 23:46:33 Pretty Damn Neat. Shame that the word "live" no longer applies here, but still interesting all the same 23:46:53 nice progression: http://genesis.eecg.toronto.edu/steve5.jpg