IRC log of swhack on 2002-03-14

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00:05:35 [Morbus]
<Morbus> .translate english french i have a sweaty nutsack
00:05:37 [Morbus]
<Anical> j'ai en sueur un nutsack
00:05:37 [Morbus]
<Morbus> .translate french english j'ai en sueur un nutsack
00:05:37 [Morbus]
<Anical> I have in sweat a nutsack
00:07:35 [AaronSw]
oh man
00:12:11 [sbp]
heh!
00:16:51 [AaronSw]
for the record:
00:16:53 [AaronSw]
* AaronSw is AS868-GANDI
00:19:54 [sbp]
your Dell thingy number?
00:20:03 [AaronSw]
no, my gandi number
00:20:12 [AaronSw]
Wes: "Maybe driving in circles in Austin at 1 AM sounds boring, but it really isn't."
00:20:26 [sbp]
.google AS868-GANDI
00:20:28 [sbp]
crud
00:20:55 [deltab]
whois handle
00:22:08 [sbp]
ah... thanks, db
00:22:15 [xena]
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00:23:02 [sbp]
she came, she saw, she left
00:23:28 [Morbus]
no lesbians
00:23:30 [AaronSw]
xena is messed up or something..
00:23:50 [AaronSw]
heh, from xena-vision: <[deleted]> WOO!!! I was outbid!!! YES!!
00:24:29 [sbp]
these love-brides seem attractive at first...
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00:27:38 [AaronSw]
error of the week:
00:27:38 [AaronSw]
error=FAILED, unknown or transient error
00:27:53 [Morbus]
heh
00:27:56 [sbp]
heh
00:28:00 [Morbus]
jinx!
00:28:14 [Morbus]
.email morbus@disobey.com write jinx bot module
00:28:18 [sbp]
lol
00:28:25 [Morbus]
.mail morbus@disobey.com write jinx bot module
00:28:29 [Morbus]
grrr
00:28:30 [sbp]
.time
00:28:30 [xena]
2002/03/14 00:29:58.4984 Universal
00:28:35 [AaronSw]
.email
00:28:38 [sbp]
.sendmorbus'email
00:28:40 [AaronSw]
but it was disabled because of abuse
00:28:44 [sbp]
ah
00:28:51 [Morbus]
dammit.
00:28:53 [Morbus]
that was super handy.
00:29:00 [Morbus]
.email morbus@disobey.com write mail bot module
00:29:01 [AaronSw]
I know
00:29:03 [Morbus]
aacccck!
00:29:04 [AaronSw]
lol
00:29:05 [Morbus]
* Morbus blows up.
00:29:07 [sbp]
heh,h eh
00:29:28 [AaronSw]
AaronSw has changed the topic to: is you or is you ain't the Chargoggagoggmanchauggagoggchaubunagungamaugg?
00:29:59 [sbp]
[pronounced Char-gog-a-gog-man-chug-a-gog-chu-bun-a-gung-a-mahg]
00:30:17 [AaronSw]
Fun to say.
00:30:27 [GabeW]
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00:30:36 [sbp]
try looking up the Welsh word for "information" :-)
00:30:58 [AaronSw]
.translate eng-wel information
00:31:13 [xena]
gwybodaeth, hysbysrwydd, ngwybodaeth
00:31:23 [sbp]
heh. there you go
00:33:43 [AaronSw]
My mailbox: "PRESSURE PRESSURE PRESSURE."
00:34:11 [AaronSw]
why? "Lots of people will be hitting our site over the next few weeks. I expect that in the next few days we'll be getting checked out by Lucasfilm Marketing"
00:46:07 [AaronSw]
George Washington: "Stars? With Stripes? How's that supposed to fit together design-wise?!"
00:46:20 [Morbus]
* Morbus chuckles
00:52:44 [sbp]
heh, heh
00:53:19 [sbp]
the stars and stripes were from his family emblem/shield thing though, IIRC
00:53:39 [AaronSw]
This Stan Freberg CD is funnier than I remember it.
00:57:34 [sbp]
er... "Coat of Arms"
00:59:42 [AaronSw]
Woo, Norman Rockwell wins the war!
01:29:03 [Morbus]
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01:30:00 [AaronSw]
Aahz is an androgynous poly kinky vanilla queer het Pythonista
01:30:55 [AaronSw]
* AaronSw is away: dinner
01:42:00 [wmf]
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01:42:40 [wmf]
the bots are growing in number... soon they will outnumber us...
01:43:34 [sbp]
heh, you could be right. (Aaron went to dinner, BTW, if you're looking for him)
01:43:51 [wmf]
he must have just left
01:44:25 [sbp]
yep; just a few minutes ago
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* AaronSw waves
02:46:05 [AaronSw]
wmf, how'd you know?
02:46:30 [Morbus]
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02:46:55 [wmf]
whois said you'd only been idle a few minutes
02:47:11 [AaronSw]
new bots? where?
02:47:14 [wmf]
http://www.wrongwaygoback.com/
02:47:44 [wmf]
I don't know if there are new bots or if I'm just not used to how many there are
02:48:00 [AaronSw]
new bot is notZakim
02:48:07 [AaronSw]
oh, and walloper
02:48:15 [AaronSw]
hmm. 5/14
02:49:15 [AaronSw]
* AaronSw does the wrong way go back wheelchair motion
02:53:42 [wmf]
heh, Jim Ropecke flamed me for claiming that modems are obsolete
02:55:09 [Morbus]
i don't think they are.
02:55:18 [AaronSw]
you work for an ISP. you don't count.
02:55:25 [Morbus]
pff. i'm a user too.
02:55:30 [wmf]
AaronSw: so where should I buy a new drive from?
02:55:48 [Morbus]
ignoring the ISP, with the current conditions, I would never get DSL or cable around here.
02:55:50 [AaronSw]
I got mine from googlegear.com, but I think I got that from price.com or something similar.
02:56:03 [AaronSw]
why's that, morb?
02:56:26 [Morbus]
dsl companies drop like flies here and have to go through Verizon anyways. install times are months, then actually being stable is another month after that.
02:56:52 [Morbus]
cable around here is only attbi/mediaone whatever, and we get constant reports about weeklong outages, and tech people who don't have a clue, and have no timetable for reconnection.
02:57:06 [Morbus]
keeping a phoneline, no matter how crappy said phone line is, is the only way to guarentee a connection around here.
02:57:14 [wmf]
RoadRunner, despite being an arm of the evil empire, is very reliable
02:57:14 [Morbus]
its the only thing the user has "control" over.
02:57:24 [Morbus]
ie, if you can't call someone, you can yell at the phone company.
02:57:40 [AaronSw]
dsl comes from the phone company
02:57:50 [Morbus]
wmf: there was a week long outage in Merrimack, NH a few months back
02:57:57 [Morbus]
yes, AaronSw, but DSL is typically only for net connections.
02:58:01 [Morbus]
phone lines are for both.
02:58:17 [Morbus]
now, the telco can say they can't guarentee bandwidth or internet connectivity, but they have to guarentee voice calls.
02:58:27 [Morbus]
thus, you have some dependance that your internet connection will work.
02:58:59 [wmf]
ugh, pricewatch doesn't distinguish 2.5" and 3.5" drives
03:01:08 [MorbusIff]
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03:03:14 [Morbus]
AaronSw, did you see the Amazon XML thing? that's kinda neat.
03:03:24 [AaronSw]
no. url?
03:03:34 [Morbus]
mentioned on syndic8 a few hours ago
03:03:45 [Morbus]
still want the url?
03:03:56 [AaronSw]
yes
03:04:08 [AaronSw]
not subscribed to syndic8 anymore
03:04:28 [Morbus]
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/syndic8/message/1502
03:04:38 [Morbus]
and http://groups.yahoo.com/group/syndic8/message/1503
03:04:47 [Morbus]
you're not? i thought you just posted about media types.
03:04:57 [AaronSw]
yeah, i had to subscribe for that
03:05:08 [wmf]
AaronSw does the hit-and-run
03:05:23 [AaronSw]
i should probably go see if anyone responded
03:05:35 [Morbus]
yah, someone did, but i did't read it ;)
03:05:37 [AaronSw]
I get a 404 on that URL.
03:05:53 [Morbus]
what url? syndic8?
03:06:01 [AaronSw]
no, amazon
03:06:16 [Morbus]
yeah, did you concat on the last line?
03:06:33 [AaronSw]
oops
03:08:31 [AaronSw]
My books are: Jesse Jackson, Michael Moore, "American Jihad", "Ambling into History", Pat Buchanan(!), Chomsky, "Blinded by the Right", "One Nation", Nader, Pagan, Clinton Abuses, Suck up, globalization, nickel and dimed
03:09:00 [AaronSw]
s/my/Politics/
03:11:28 [wmf]
hmm, I plugged in my camera and it looked like something was launching, but nothing happened
03:11:36 [Morbus]
usb module?
03:12:07 [wmf]
I guess I'll just launch iPhoto by hand
03:12:44 [AaronSw]
wmf, what's a good source on identity standards?
03:13:22 [wmf]
the digital identity weblog (linked in my bookmarks)
03:13:38 [AaronSw]
.google digital identity weblog
03:13:39 [xena]
digital identity weblog: http://weblog.digital-identity.info
03:13:49 [wmf]
or you could find it that way :-)
03:14:03 [AaronSw]
hm, dns isn't resolving
03:14:03 [AaronSw]
.dns weblog.digital-identity.info
03:14:03 [xena]
weblog.digital-identity.info - 213.237.145.45
03:14:42 [AaronSw]
.dns digital-identity.info
03:14:42 [xena]
digital-identity.info - 213.237.145.145
03:15:32 [AaronSw]
whoa, that site is freaky.
03:16:51 [wmf]
what's freaky about it?
03:17:07 [AaronSw]
I don't want my digital identity to be at di-people.com
03:17:16 [AaronSw]
it's all a little sci-fi...
03:17:26 [AaronSw]
(not the weblog, the speenames thing)
03:18:26 [wmf]
I guess I shouldn't post this photo of Cam taking a photo of me
03:18:35 [AaronSw]
yes you should!
03:18:54 [wmf]
it's too obligatory
03:18:57 [AaronSw]
The Lisa everyone's talking about is Lisa Rein, right?
03:19:03 [wmf]
right
03:19:08 [wmf]
I should link her
03:19:33 [AaronSw]
It's funny, because I was reading camworld and it said: "Lisa Rein just walked up to me and handed me a Starbucks iced mocha. She rocks." and then the phone rang, and it was Lisa, and I said, "Lisa, you rock."
03:19:45 [wmf]
heh
03:19:53 [AaronSw]
And it did, because she had gotten me a trip to Honolulu.
03:20:26 [wmf]
I hung out with her and Cory a lot
03:20:34 [Morbus]
i need some good intro documentation from the /Developer/Documentation that won't scare peopple
03:22:09 [AaronSw]
SXSW sounds really cool. too bad i couldn't go
03:23:03 [wmf]
Citizen Cope rules
03:24:26 [AaronSw]
<DanCon> (i.e. south-by-southwest, a big conference in Austin... which used to be about signing garage bands to record contracts, but now has a large web-designer slant)
03:24:34 [wmf]
whoa, iPhoto is not saving my comments
03:24:48 [AaronSw]
iThink iPhoto doesn't like you.
03:24:54 [wmf]
grrrr
03:25:41 [wmf]
iWonder if my hard drive is making a funny sound or if I just never noticed it before
03:25:46 [Morbus]
anyone watch samurai jack?
03:28:12 [AaronSw]
Heh: "Mom, if you're reading, I can explain the whole dick thing. On the phone. Later."
03:28:32 [wmf]
source?
03:28:41 [AaronSw]
http://www.powazek.com/zoom/log/archive/00000340.shtml
03:29:22 [AaronSw]
The People want the {fray} webcast
03:30:58 [wmf]
er, yeah
03:31:23 [Morbus]
huh. did anyone ever notice that localhost and 127.0.0.1 have the same number of chars?
03:31:27 [AaronSw]
you need more webcasting austinites to read your blog
03:32:26 [wmf]
hopefully the video will be posted soon enough
03:34:14 [AaronSw]
dave's back on the world outline instant messanging track
03:34:21 [AaronSw]
* AaronSw plays Citizen Cope - If There's Love
03:34:44 [Morbus]
* Morbus plays a track from the Silent Hill OST
03:36:59 [AaronSw]
lol: http://radio.weblogs.com/0001015/images/2002/03/13/messageForSimon.gif
03:39:04 [wmf]
LOL
03:40:53 [wmf]
now to crop, resize, and post about 30 photos to HTP... :-(
03:41:21 [AaronSw]
That's the kind of thing that makes me like Zope
03:41:25 [AaronSw]
Maybe the only thing...
03:41:44 [AaronSw]
just drag and drop and the photos are on the Web.
03:42:12 [wmf]
er, there's still the cropping and resizing
03:42:34 [AaronSw]
Zope resizes them for you
03:42:50 [wmf]
ok, that's cool
03:43:42 [AaronSw]
and it's pretty easy to crop in iPhoto
03:44:07 [AaronSw]
on-the-fly resizing rocks
03:44:27 [wmf]
oh, I have to forward this email I just got to you
03:44:47 [AaronSw]
Interesting: http://www.archub.org/
03:44:54 [AaronSw]
* AaronSw checks his mial
03:44:56 [AaronSw]
err mail
03:46:28 [AaronSw]
I'm not sure whether to laugh or cry at that email.
03:46:51 [AaronSw]
* AaronSw makes note not to move to Iraq
03:46:58 [wmf]
I wonder why that was sent to me
03:47:05 [Morbus]
dammit.
03:47:05 [Morbus]
what do you folks use for newsservers?
03:47:09 [AaronSw]
google hack, man
03:47:18 [Morbus]
what do you folks use for *binary* newsservers?
03:47:19 [AaronSw]
Morbus, my ISP runs one for me. doesn't yours? or does it SUCK?
03:47:34 [Morbus]
heh, we farm out to some third party.
03:47:44 [Morbus]
which only keeps about 2500 worth of backposts.
03:47:47 [AaronSw]
Heh: http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/world/middle_east/newsid_269000/269399.stm
03:47:55 [Morbus]
which is cramping style for binary people.
03:48:07 [Morbus]
2500 per group, rather
03:48:34 [AaronSw]
Is Jon Udell's newsgroup a warez haven?
03:48:46 [AaronSw]
FTR netnews.attbi.com
03:49:16 [Morbus]
ftr?
03:49:22 [AaronSw]
for the record
03:49:40 [wmf]
alt.fan.jon-udell.warez?
03:51:10 [AaronSw]
news://news.cmpnet.com/cmp.joncon.warez
03:51:28 [AaronSw]
oops, cmpnet.byte.joncon.warez
03:53:11 [AaronSw]
citizen cope is good.
03:53:35 [wmf]
* wmf nods
03:54:07 [AaronSw]
You have to post that email next time some hacker posts to your DG. ;-)
03:54:26 [wmf]
mwahahaa!
03:55:53 [AaronSw]
Hm, Reuters picked up the googlebombing story
03:56:21 [wmf]
Phantom Planet is good, too
03:56:35 [AaronSw]
is that good austin show on now?
03:56:43 [Morbus]
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03:56:46 [wmf]
no, that's sundays
03:56:57 [wmf]
but my changer is full of new CDs
03:57:08 [AaronSw]
Hm, AG hosts phantom planet.
04:02:42 [AaronSw]
you need to post more pics so I can M8K
04:02:46 [AaronSw]
;-)
04:03:57 [wmf]
M8K?
04:04:07 [AaronSw]
Message 8000
04:04:20 [wmf]
ah
04:05:02 [wmf]
it's going to be a while
04:05:20 [AaronSw]
that just tells me you didn't take enough pictures :)
04:06:17 [wmf]
at about 1 minute/photo, there's no way I'm posting hundreds
04:06:29 [wmf]
besides, I might fill up a disk on the server
04:06:30 [AaronSw]
You need the power of the Zope photo album!
04:06:47 [AaronSw]
Heh, doesn't wmf.editthispage.com have its own server yet?
04:07:20 [wmf]
that would be funny
04:08:00 [wmf]
I think I'll avoid posting all these unflattering photos
04:08:23 [AaronSw]
aww.
04:08:29 [AaronSw]
you can post them of felterlog ;)
04:08:33 [wmf]
heh
04:08:55 [AaronSw]
lol! he modified the logo: http://felterlog.editthispage.com/
04:13:11 [wmf]
lol, nice logo
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two sbps
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--
04:23:36 [AaronSw]
<tav> .seen tav|sleep
04:23:36 [AaronSw]
<xena> tav|sleep seen changing nickname to tav ~ 8 day(s) 9 hr(s) 17 min(s) 45 sec(s) ago
04:23:36 [AaronSw]
<tav> bah
04:23:36 [AaronSw]
*** tav is now known as tav|sleep
04:23:36 [AaronSw]
--
04:23:45 [AaronSw]
that's an interesting way to keep track of your sleep
04:31:39 [sbp]
heh
04:37:13 [wmf]
OK, that's enough photos for now
04:38:06 [wmf]
the sad state of the Web: http://wmf.editthispage.com/stories/storyReader$232
04:38:50 [AaronSw]
where did all the photos go?
04:39:01 [wmf]
linkrotted
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04:39:09 [sbp]
Hey Ben
04:39:25 [AaronSw]
notice how the only ones remaining have you in them
04:39:37 [AaronSw]
Wes holds the Web together.
04:39:38 [BenSw]
hello
04:39:50 [wmf]
heh, people don't delete photos of me
04:40:05 [BenSw]
I hate it my hub power cord comes out in the middle of the day sometimes :(
04:40:08 [wmf]
I know Brad won't delete his photos of me
04:40:11 [AaronSw]
* AaronSw tries the Web Archive
04:45:37 [AaronSw]
2/9
04:45:37 [AaronSw]
my connection is dead again
04:45:38 [AaronSw]
and it's back
04:45:42 [AaronSw]
2/11
04:47:12 [sbp]
Gotta run
04:47:58 [AaronSw]
phantom planet was good too. got any more band recommendations?
04:48:43 [wmf]
Unwritten Law (try "seeing red")
04:49:23 [wmf]
...And You Will Know us by the Trail of Dead (aka Trail of Dead, try "Relative Ways")
04:50:36 [AaronSw]
"Known for the legendarily incendiary live shows these indie rockers use noise and chaos for catharsis and mellow tranquility to disturb."
04:51:25 [wmf]
also Pop Unknown and Subset (Austin)
04:52:00 [AaronSw]
heh: http://radio.weblogs.com/0001015/instantOutliner/bullMancuso.opml
04:53:40 [AaronSw]
* AaronSw sends thanks to the AGers
04:56:06 [wmf]
oops Manila bug
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04:57:10 [wmf]
hey rm
04:57:17 [wmf]
http://wmf.editthispage.com/stories/storyReader$7247
04:59:59 [AaronSw]
ooh, new version of sputnix
04:59:59 [AaronSw]
and my internet is down again. <sigh />
04:59:59 [AaronSw]
and back
05:03:32 [AaronSw]
"The 1990's was a decade devoted to accessibility." seems like hyperbole.
05:06:49 [AaronSw]
Heh: "If arsenic fails, try algebra"
05:06:57 [wmf]
yeah
05:09:21 [wmf]
* wmf sings
05:09:30 [wmf]
dear mom, I'm dating an actress...
05:11:17 [AaronSw]
which one is that?
05:11:40 [wmf]
lemme check
05:12:16 [wmf]
Unwritten Law, "Actress, Model..."
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05:16:06 [AaronSw]
wow, 2.95/mo. is cheap
05:16:35 [wmf]
for what?
05:16:49 [AaronSw]
AG Gold
05:17:13 [wmf]
does he come to my house for that price, or do I have to get the Platinum?
05:17:29 [AaronSw]
who do you want to come to your house?
05:17:45 [wmf]
AccordionGuy (joking)
05:17:50 [AaronSw]
Heh, heh
05:18:23 [AaronSw]
He's got to make a living for peek-a-booty somehow!
05:18:46 [wmf]
I wouldn't pay him to show up, but he's welcome any time, since he's likely to have a swarm of women following
05:18:59 [AaronSw]
* AaronSw chuckles
05:19:39 [AaronSw]
This is awesome, Peek-A-Bear goes to war: http://www.peek-a-booty.org/pbhtml/images/topics/warbear.gif
05:19:42 [wmf]
going to work today was a big change...
05:20:03 [AaronSw]
no webloggers or beautiful women, eh?
05:20:13 [wmf]
yeah
05:24:32 [AaronSw]
oh wow, the new spunix can play songs from the client
05:25:39 [AaronSw]
actress/model/dancer whateeeeever
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05:51:13 [AaronSw]
Itamar: "Twisted is an event-driven framework for internet servers. Zope3 is the next generation Zope system. Together, they fight crime!"
05:51:35 [GabeW]
is zope3 using twisted?
05:51:45 [AaronSw]
i doubt it
05:51:45 [AaronSw]
@ http://flyenhancer.org/
05:51:49 [chumpster]
A: http://flyenhancer.org/ from AaronSw
05:51:57 [AaronSw]
A:|Fly Genome Search Engine
05:51:58 [chumpster]
titled item A
05:52:14 [AaronSw]
A::Written in Python, I suspect by [?!ng|http://web.lfw.org/ping/]
05:52:14 [chumpster]
commented item A
05:53:02 [wmf]
A::Will Fly Enhancer produce a superfly? Or just Jeff Goldblum?
05:53:04 [chumpster]
commented item A
05:53:10 [AaronSw]
* AaronSw giggles
05:53:12 [AaronSw]
@ http://web.lfw.org/python/pydev-sample/
05:53:14 [chumpster]
B: http://web.lfw.org/python/pydev-sample/ from AaronSw
05:53:25 [wmf]
let's just hope they don't start Worm Enhancer
05:53:34 [AaronSw]
chomp chomp
05:53:42 [AaronSw]
B:|Output from Ping's Automated Mailing List Summarizer
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titled item B
05:53:58 [wmf]
a superworm is going to shut down the internet, dontchaknow
05:54:17 [AaronSw]
Especially when we mix in some Warhol DNA
05:54:21 [GabeW]
supa dupa worm
05:54:33 [AaronSw]
worm DNA in 4-color prints!
05:55:01 [wmf]
Bruce has some kind of human genome poster in his kitcchen
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06:05:07 [AaronSw]
wow, I didn't know Ping worked at ILM
06:05:25 [AaronSw]
and PARC...
06:05:45 [AaronSw]
geez, Alias|Wavefront too.
06:05:58 [wmf]
and Foresight
06:06:09 [AaronSw]
eh, everyone knows that
06:06:15 [AaronSw]
oddly it's not on his resume tho.
06:08:13 [AaronSw]
Hm, he learned LISP in 8th grade...
06:10:27 [wmf]
grrr, damn random Entourage messages!
06:10:58 [redmonk]
heh
06:11:00 [redmonk]
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06:11:45 [AaronSw]
Apple's graphical diff tool looks a lot like Udanax Green.
06:11:52 [wmf]
I only tried to send a 5MB message!
06:11:58 [AaronSw]
:-)
06:12:49 [rm]
FileMerge is coooool
06:12:57 [AaronSw]
right, that's what it's called.
06:14:46 [rm]
ugh. wmf: what does "malforrmed header from script mean?
06:15:58 [rm]
in apache logs
06:16:02 [rm]
any idea?
06:16:22 [hazmat]
itamar has made zope3 and twisted work together its not optimal though.
06:17:26 [AaronSw]
rm, it means you're returning bad or nonexistant headers
06:17:33 [rm]
hm.
06:17:36 [rm]
lovely
06:17:42 [rm]
the downward spiral continues
06:17:50 [AaronSw]
you should be returning something like:
06:17:54 [rm]
i need to refactor, but i'm afraid ;-)
06:17:56 [AaronSw]
print "Content-Type: text/html"
06:17:57 [AaronSw]
prin
06:17:58 [AaronSw]
err print
06:18:11 [rm]
yeah i am
06:18:31 [AaronSw]
does it say what the malformed header is?
06:19:32 [rm]
hang on
06:19:51 [wmf]
rm: you wouldn't have this problem if you were using EJBs
06:20:07 [AaronSw]
heh. moore cofffee!
06:20:44 [rm]
wmf: yeah, 'cause i'd still be doing use-cases
06:20:47 [wmf]
(you'd have totally different and much worse ones :-) )
06:21:02 [rm]
lol
06:21:26 [rm]
"Premature end of script headers: /Library/WebServer/CGI-Executables/anno.py"
06:21:41 [wmf]
at dinner last night (seems like days ago...) we were debating the origin of using the term "Enterprise" to describe BigCos
06:21:57 [GabeW]
rm: thats often when stdout is empty (ie exception before any content printed out)
06:22:23 [AaronSw]
wes, didn't it come in with the rest of the pop culture star trek terminology?
06:22:33 [wmf]
that was Lisa's suggestion
06:22:57 [AaronSw]
* AaronSw smiles. Good ol' Lisa.
06:23:21 [wmf]
lame: 552 Message size exceeds fixed maximum message size: 5242880 bytes
06:23:33 [AaronSw]
i thought you had your own smtp server
06:23:42 [AaronSw]
Scottyize the Enterprise
06:23:49 [wmf]
that's from the recipient's server
06:24:02 [wmf]
did gilmore shut down his relay BTW?
06:24:15 [AaronSw]
I thought he brought it back up...
06:24:29 [AaronSw]
* AaronSw imagines BigCos disappearing in the star trek transporter dazzle
06:24:33 [wmf]
Lisa was trying to use it at SXSW and it didn't work
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06:24:51 [AaronSw]
looks like toad.com is down altogether. The [deleted]s.
06:25:07 [wmf]
motherfuckers
06:26:26 [AaronSw]
Hmm. http://cryptome.org/verio-censorship.html
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06:27:40 [AaronSw]
Gilmore should make his special software available.
06:27:53 [rm]
is that like special sauce?
06:27:59 [AaronSw]
enterprisefunk: redundancy, redundancy, redundancy, redundancy
06:28:08 [rm]
hehe
06:28:45 [AaronSw]
special software all on a GNU/Linux bun
06:28:55 [rm]
hehe
06:29:12 [rm]
ok, i've done everything i can think of to the headers on this fscking script
06:29:18 [rm]
and still
06:29:24 [AaronSw]
is the script crashing?
06:29:30 [AaronSw]
are you using cgitb?
06:29:37 [rm]
Premature end of script headers: /Library/WebServer/CGI-Executables/anno.py
06:29:41 [wmf]
did you try running the script from the shell?
06:29:44 [rm]
it never getds to it
06:29:53 [AaronSw]
gets to what?
06:30:50 [rm]
yes, i got cgitb, and it does not work
06:30:56 [rm]
do i need to import it?
06:31:13 [AaronSw]
yeah
06:31:35 [rm]
well, no diff
06:31:39 [AaronSw]
and wrap your script in the try: .... cgitb.t...() wrapper
06:31:53 [rm]
well, i wrapped the main() call, yeah
06:32:18 [AaronSw]
oh, hm. in python2.2 you can do import cgitb; cgitb.enable()
06:32:52 [AaronSw]
that's cool
06:33:02 [rm]
still no luck
06:33:16 [rm]
wish i can put this in cvs :-(
06:33:21 [rm]
er, wish i had
06:34:19 [AaronSw]
I think I better go to sleep now. Nite
06:34:23 [AaronSw]
* AaronSw is away: sleep
06:35:26 [rm]
cya
06:35:31 [rm]
*sigh*
06:36:54 [rm]
figures. notw i get it
06:37:02 [rm]
well, good for me.
06:37:03 [rm]
;-)
06:38:59 [rm]
wooohooooo
06:39:03 [rm]
cgitb rocks
06:39:12 [rm]
i'm in love
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14:41:07 [rm]
anyone awake out there?
14:53:21 [Morbus]
yup
14:54:43 [rm]
hey
14:54:57 [rm]
what's up?
14:57:11 [Morbus]
nothing all too excting.
14:57:15 [Morbus]
messing with a perlbot right now.
14:58:12 [rm]
ah
14:58:40 [rm]
i've been hacking on an annotea-vocab-based python cgi
14:58:51 [Morbus]
how's that coming?
14:58:57 [rm]
much better
14:59:11 [rm]
you can get the results now as rss
14:59:34 [rm]
and store annotations for multiple uris
14:59:51 [rm]
but mine area all "seeAlso" relationships right now
15:00:15 [rm]
eventually it will morph into an annotation app for the plesh
15:03:55 [Morbus]
ah, you're workion on plesh? cool.
15:04:40 [rm]
sort of
15:05:06 [rm]
i'm vice-janitor in charge of killing applications
15:05:13 [rm]
er, killer applications ;-)
15:05:15 [Morbus]
heh, heh.
15:14:56 [rm]
so what'ds on the TODO list for aphetadesk?
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15:15:55 [Morbus]
heh, there are tons and tons of things on the tood.
15:15:58 [Morbus]
and no time to do them.
15:16:05 [rm]
:-(
15:16:07 [rm]
;-)
15:16:10 [Morbus]
i'm actually not working on the todo now, i'm workign on a modularized codebase.
15:16:18 [Morbus]
which, once finished (if finished), will be much much better.
15:16:26 [Morbus]
streaming updates, wrapper exe's. it'll just be so insanely better.
15:16:34 [rm]
i bet
15:16:36 [rm]
cool.
15:17:01 [rm]
how about re-orging the results so that all the new items are together, no matter where they're from ;-)
15:17:36 [Morbus]
on the todo.
15:17:41 [Morbus]
here, lemme show you the todo.
15:18:24 [Morbus]
http://cvs.sourceforge.net/cgi-bin/viewcvs.cgi/amphetadesk/AmphetaDesk/docs/TODO?rev=1.49&content-type=text/vnd.viewcvs-markup
15:18:48 [Morbus]
some of the easy stuff has been done as I remodularized.
15:20:28 [rm]
cool
15:20:34 [rm]
good for you
15:23:47 [Morbus]
i've got huge plans for it.
15:23:51 [Morbus]
but no time.
15:23:53 [rm]
i bet
15:23:57 [rm]
sounds familiar
15:23:59 [Morbus]
i'm getting about an hour a week of dev on it. sigh.
15:24:05 [rm]
ugh.
15:24:23 [rm]
so what do you do when not hacking amp or writing for o'reilly?
15:24:54 [Morbus]
working full time, answering email, working on gamegrene (i control it, and i have to babysit 12 writers, handle schedules, payment, etc.)
15:25:05 [Morbus]
trying to keep up on news reading.
15:25:11 [Morbus]
blah blah blah.
15:25:13 [rm]
heh
15:25:23 [Morbus]
and I try to get in an hour of book/magazine reading a night
15:25:27 [Morbus]
and an hour of game playing.
15:25:36 [rm]
cool.
15:25:36 [Morbus]
right now, i'm getting about 1/2 hour of reading, and thats it.
15:25:39 [Morbus]
and five hours of sleep.
15:25:41 [Morbus]
sigh.
15:25:43 [rm]
bummer
15:26:11 [Morbus]
oh, and then there's eating and shitting.
15:26:14 [Morbus]
that crap is hella annoying.
15:26:16 [Morbus]
totally unprodutive.
15:26:22 [Morbus]
i have magazines in the bathroom.
15:26:34 [Morbus]
but i go so infrequently that I get maybe a paragraph of reading done.
15:26:35 [Morbus]
that's no good.
15:26:45 [Morbus]
i bet you dont care <G>
15:27:26 [rm]
hm.
15:27:48 [Morbus]
oh, and now i just took this other project on for a good friend.
15:27:56 [Morbus]
he's the owner of a local video store in town. it rocks.
15:27:57 [rm]
information wanted (fingers close together), information given (arms wide) ;-)
15:28:03 [rm]
cool
15:28:13 [Morbus]
you walk in and he'll belike "oh, hey, there's a new movie you'll like" and godammit, yeah, you will.
15:28:21 [Morbus]
he does that for everybody. the guy's a regular maltin.
15:28:28 [rm]
excellent
15:28:34 [Morbus]
so, he has about 11,000 movies in his shop.
15:28:37 [Morbus]
and he wants to bring them to the web.
15:28:42 [Morbus]
that's where i come in ;)
15:28:44 [rm]
cooooool
15:28:58 [Morbus]
which isn't that bad, because I have about 350 movies in my collection, and i need a better way of cataloguing them too.
15:29:06 [Morbus]
so this is just really forcing me to get my collection organized.
15:29:08 [Morbus]
but still...
15:29:11 [Morbus]
you know.
15:29:15 [rm]
i do.
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woo, got my "certificate of course completion" from driving school
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ping
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ooh, well-done Aaron
16:59:48 [Morbus]
well done, what?
17:00:53 [sbp]
<AaronSw> woo, got my "certificate of course completion" from driving school
17:02:58 [Morbus]
ah
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"DVD Player 3.1.1 adds features for DVD authoring, including the ability to select and play the contents of a 'VIDEO_TS' folder from a local volume. This update also adds AppleScript support for selection and playback of DVD content. A Script menu makes it easy to add and run custom scripts. Also new is a 'wide' layout for the info window and various stability enhancements."
19:36:00 [AaronSw]
Very interesting.
19:36:13 [AaronSw]
A big boon for the DVD sharers.
21:29:42 [AaronSw]
'To recieve an F, a flag had to be so awful that its level of badness was clearly qualitatively different from that of any flag receiving a D. I had to feel that a country receiving an F had really set out to create a genuinely horrible flag, or didn't really know what a flag was. One prominent vexillologist I consulted put it thus: "Some countries' flags look like tea towels. If you'd rather be using the flag as a tea towel, and your tea towel as the flag,
21:29:45 [AaronSw]
.wn vexillologist
21:29:58 [AaronSw]
.webster vexillologist
21:30:19 [AaronSw]
- http://138.251.140.21/~josh/flags/
21:30:48 [AaronSw]
"In the end, only three countries received such a distinction, all U.S. territories (hence my suspicions about the US using its security council veto to block the bringing of bad flag designers to justice). Of these, I wouldn't even trust the Northern Mariana Islands flag to clean my cutlery - it's probably not colourfast."
21:33:24 [AaronSw]
that page has me in hysterics
21:33:28 [AaronSw]
that = http://138.251.140.21/~josh/flags/meth.html
21:44:14 [AaronSw]
That's cool. He's got a description in RDF: http://138.251.140.21/~josh/index.rdf
21:55:08 [AaronSw]
AaronSw has changed the topic to: Happy Pi Day!
21:55:40 [AaronSw]
@ http://www.google.com/search?q=happy%20pi%20day
21:55:46 [chumpster]
C: Google Search: happy pi day from AaronSw
21:55:51 [AaronSw]
C:|Happy Pi Day!
21:55:54 [chumpster]
titled item C
21:56:13 [AaronSw]
.time
21:56:13 [xena]
2002/03/14 21:57:40.9339 Universal
21:56:35 [AaronSw]
eh. 21:59 is kinda like 1:59
21:56:48 [AaronSw]
C::Don't forget the [Pi Day Songs|http://www.winternet.com/~mchristi/piday.html].
21:56:51 [chumpster]
commented item C
21:58:08 [AaronSw]
C::Check out Eve's [Pi photos|http://www.photo.net/photodb/presentation?presentation_id=1561].
21:58:10 [chumpster]
commented item C
22:05:33 [Morbus]
hrm.
22:05:38 [Morbus]
did the yahoo outage start already?
22:05:43 [Morbus]
or am I being dumb.
22:05:51 [Morbus]
i just tried to send to syndic8@yahoo.com
22:05:55 [Morbus]
and it got bounced.
22:06:17 [deltab]
yahoo outage?
22:06:29 [Morbus]
yeah, there's a scheduled outage of yahoo groups.
22:06:54 [Morbus]
http://groups.yahoo.com/local/service.html
22:06:56 [Morbus]
nope, not yet.
22:06:59 [deltab]
not one where they delete nearly all the archives, I hope
22:07:00 [Morbus]
hmm. wonder why this mail didn't go.
22:07:09 [Morbus]
probably, they'r emoving to a new service.
22:07:13 [Morbus]
perfect time to "fix" things
22:08:29 [Morbus]
pff: (reason: 554 delivery error: dd This user doesn't have a yahoo.com account (syndic8@yahoo.com) - mta574.mail.yahoo.com)
22:08:41 [Morbus]
am i missing something?
22:08:43 [Morbus]
looks right to me.
22:09:46 [AaronSw]
heh. deus_x: http://www.livejournal.com/talkread.bml?journal=idle_thoughts&itemid=46451
22:10:09 [AaronSw]
morbus, yahoogroups.com
22:10:12 [AaronSw]
not yahoo.com
22:10:31 [AaronSw]
* AaronSw smacks Morbus' forehead for him
22:10:49 [Morbus]
pff. that was fricking obvious.
22:10:49 [Morbus]
sigh.
22:10:58 [Morbus]
thanks.
22:11:15 [AaronSw]
sure.
22:11:17 [AaronSw]
@ http://www.oblomovka.com/code/haiku.php3
22:11:20 [chumpster]
D: Oblomovka from AaronSw
22:11:31 [AaronSw]
D:|"Found Haiku" discoverer
22:11:32 [chumpster]
titled item D
22:12:01 [AaronSw]
D::Python from Danny O'Brian
22:12:03 [chumpster]
commented item D
22:12:08 [Morbus]
goddamit.
22:12:14 [Morbus]
i hate blogjumping.
22:12:15 [AaronSw]
C::We need to run this on the Swhack logs...
22:12:16 [chumpster]
commented item C
22:12:24 [Morbus]
flipping one blog says "ooh, apple releases new mailing lists! click here for more!"
22:12:31 [Morbus]
so i click here for more. i read the larger article.
22:12:37 [Morbus]
i click "click here for more information".
22:12:48 [Morbus]
i get sent to someone else's flipping blog with the link i'm looking for.
22:13:09 [AaronSw]
C:: "When we speak of free / software, we are referring / to freedom, not price."
22:13:10 [chumpster]
commented item C
22:13:11 [Morbus]
grr. stop shallow linking, dammit. deep link! deeep link!
22:13:23 [AaronSw]
deeeeep
22:14:57 [Morbus]
ooh. suse 8
22:21:01 [AaronSw]
C:: "George W. Bush / and company. That's what this / tour is all about." - [Michael Moore|http://www.michaelmoore.com/diaries/book_diary_2002_0311.html]
22:21:03 [chumpster]
commented item C
22:23:27 [AaronSw]
They escorted me / and the few remaining souls / out of the building.
22:25:01 [AaronSw]
- ibid.
22:34:32 [Morbus]
http://www.eblong.com/zarf/osx-log.html
22:38:28 [AaronSw]
@ http://haughey.com/sxsw/2002/desktops/
22:38:31 [chumpster]
E: Index of /sxsw/2002/desktops from AaronSw
22:38:43 [AaronSw]
E:|Matt Haughey: "fight the mouse."
22:38:45 [chumpster]
titled item E
22:43:18 [sbp]
Pi day? you crack me up
22:43:33 [AaronSw]
What? It's a major holiday!
22:43:37 [sbp]
:-)
22:43:44 [sbp]
* sbp thinks that it should be
22:43:58 [AaronSw]
I can't believe they let people like you on the Internet.
22:44:04 [sbp]
what's "fight the mouse" all about?
22:44:06 [sbp]
me???
22:44:14 [AaronSw]
Yeah, without knowing about Pi day.
22:44:32 [sbp]
well, you can never really have a Pi time
22:44:37 [AaronSw]
why not?
22:44:43 [sbp]
03-14 15:92:65.35
22:44:48 [sbp]
doesn't quite work
22:44:57 [AaronSw]
1:59, silly
22:45:18 [sbp]
Pff. Non-ISO!
22:45:29 [AaronSw]
At my house we have Pi time (3:14), 2Pi time (6:28), backwards Pi time (4:13), etc.
22:45:49 [sbp]
heh, yeah, you told me about that... Do you schedule your dinners/lunch for those times?
22:46:00 [sbp]
you could have Pie at Pi time
22:46:00 [AaronSw]
Heh, that's a good idea.
22:46:13 [AaronSw]
Indeed - much better than silly Tea Time.
22:46:18 [AaronSw]
Tea isn't even a number. Sheesh.
22:46:26 [sbp]
yeah. What were they thinking?
22:47:15 [sbp]
* sbp is quite exhausted
22:47:17 [AaronSw]
--
22:47:18 [AaronSw]
Learn Pi to 31 digits!
22:47:19 [AaronSw]
Now I, even I, would celebrate
22:47:20 [AaronSw]
In rhymes unapt, the great
22:47:20 [AaronSw]
Immortal Syracusan, rivalled nevermore
22:47:20 [AaronSw]
Who, in his wondrous lore
22:47:20 [AaronSw]
Passed on before
22:47:22 [AaronSw]
Left men his guidance
22:47:25 [AaronSw]
How to circles mensurate.
22:47:26 [AaronSw]
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22:56:41 [AaronSw]
So did Jim say anything interesting?
22:57:13 [sbp]
yep. I took some notes and so forth, but I'm hoping that proper slides will be online. They gave a good impression of the overall talk
22:57:59 [AaronSw]
You mean he didn't show of the URL at the beginning?
22:58:03 [sbp]
it was very interesting indeed; slanted towards the non-technical side (to accomodate the audience, I suppose), and it was fun hearing people's reactions from the whole thing
22:58:36 [sbp]
nope
22:58:43 [AaronSw]
Pf.
23:00:39 [sbp]
one idea that I got whilst listening to the thing was how close P3P/rulebases/WOT are to each other
23:01:15 [sbp]
that's an area which is just waiting to emerge, but there need to be more base-level applications beforehand, I guess
23:01:35 [AaronSw]
* AaronSw giggles at http://www.ximian.com/imagewrap.html?image=/images/screenshots/ximian_desktop/monkeytalk1.png
23:01:44 [AaronSw]
what do you mean?
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23:03:09 [sbp]
e.g. that rules are just a form of content, and trusting content is the domain of P3P
23:03:38 [AaronSw]
interesting
23:03:45 [sbp]
but that's in the future, since there are barely any RDF-ish rules on the Web as it is
23:04:17 [AaronSw]
speaking of rules... that reminds me: i wanted to organize a phone BOF
23:04:27 [sbp]
but you can imagine, for example, someone saying that this is a trusted conversion between two languages, endorsed by the creators of both of those languages...
23:04:33 [sbp]
a BOF for what? SWish?
23:04:54 [AaronSw]
prospective topics: RDF APIs, Integrating trust/probability into RDF systems
23:05:22 [sbp]
heh; the probability one is interesting (probably)
23:05:30 [AaronSw]
Heh.
23:05:45 [AaronSw]
A conversation between languages?
23:05:50 [AaronSw]
oh, conversion
23:09:34 [AaronSw]
E::Austin Chronicle: [Free the Mouse!|http://www.austinchronicle.com/issues/dispatch/2002-03-08/screens_feature11.html]
23:09:37 [chumpster]
commented item E
23:09:45 [Morbus]
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23:11:52 [sbp]
ah, the MM Protection Act
23:12:14 [Morbus]
excuse me, but me jerking off is not proper discussion for swhack
23:12:30 [sbp]
er... yes it is
23:12:35 [Morbus]
oh.
23:12:48 [Morbus]
jeez, i've got reams of material in that case
23:12:57 [sbp]
Uh oh! What have I done?!
23:13:08 [Morbus]
insert evil laugh here
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23:14:06 [GabeW]
man, it was just 3:14 on 3/14!
23:14:27 [Morbus]
i can't wait until its 7:06 on June 6th.
23:14:37 [GabeW]
yeah, but 7.06 is not pi!
23:14:47 [Morbus]
no, its something more powerful ;)
23:15:24 [AaronSw]
</cableModem>
23:15:24 [AaronSw]
<cableModem>
23:15:28 [AaronSw]
what's 7.06?
23:15:52 [Morbus]
come now. you're smarter than that.
23:15:56 [Morbus]
what sort of numbers would Morbus like?
23:16:33 [AaronSw]
Hm.
23:20:14 [Morbus]
ok.
23:20:18 [Morbus]
how about a hint.
23:20:23 [Morbus]
what month number is june?
23:20:29 [sbp]
6!
23:20:36 [sbp]
and now put three of them side by side?
23:20:39 [AaronSw]
oh. 666?
23:20:43 [Morbus]
mmhmm
23:20:47 [Morbus]
7:06 is 6:66
23:20:55 [AaronSw]
aha
23:21:18 [sbp]
wow, that's bent logic
23:21:25 [Morbus]
heh heh
23:21:30 [Morbus]
would you expect anything less?
23:21:34 [AaronSw]
I just assumed June was the 7th month
23:21:38 [sbp]
Hmm... good point
23:21:57 [sbp]
you assumed wrong! wronig!!!
23:22:02 [Morbus]
jesus, what grade are you supposed to be in, AaronSw? ;)
23:22:24 [AaronSw]
At least I can spell wrawng.
23:22:29 [Morbus]
bam!
23:22:35 [Morbus]
* Morbus points and laughs
23:23:34 [sbp]
Homer: I am so smart, I am so smart, S-M-R-T... I mean, S-M-A-R-T...
23:23:45 [GabeW]
yeh, I made the same assumption
23:24:02 [Morbus]
i need to call july up and have her kick your asses
23:24:05 [GabeW]
6/6 at 6:66
23:24:33 [AaronSw]
july?
23:24:35 [AaronSw]
@ http://www.nytimes.com/2002/03/14/technology/circuits/14MANN.html
23:24:40 [chumpster]
F: Register at NYTimes.com from AaronSw
23:24:48 [sbp]
the sixth month is June!
23:25:16 [sbp]
you need to call June up...
23:25:17 [Morbus]
yeah, i know.
23:25:18 [AaronSw]
F:|At Airport Gate, a Cyborg (Steve Mann) Unplugged
23:25:19 [chumpster]
titled item F
23:25:25 [Morbus]
but you think july likes being thought of as june!
23:25:29 [Morbus]
she has risen above july!
23:25:36 [Morbus]
she's sick and tired of the scorn, the putdowns.
23:25:50 [sbp]
er... and you think that June *enjoys* it? Think again, mister
23:26:12 [Morbus]
hey, look you, April MayD June so she has to suffer
23:26:34 [Morbus]
its just like how seven ate nine. there's nothing you can do.
23:26:55 [Morbus]
man, i excel at stupid shit
23:27:19 [AaronSw]
F::And because of this, he couldn't make it to his SXSW presentation, but he [presented it digitally|http://www.sxswblog.com/note.asp?id=13].
23:27:20 [chumpster]
commented item F
23:33:02 [Morbus]
er.
23:33:06 [sbp]
heh: here we sit, enough bandwidth to drive a Mack truck through, and there's nothing to watch. If only we could get a free download of "Steamboat Willie."
23:33:07 [Morbus]
.google blosxom
23:33:08 [xena]
blosxom: http://www.oreillynet.com/~rael/lang/perl/blosxom
23:33:15 [sbp]
- the Austin Chronicle Ad
23:33:21 [sbp]
s/Ad/Art./
23:33:35 [sbp]
Hmm... how does one go about plunking letters over dots?
23:37:03 [AaronSw]
anyone know the url for the live steve mann feed?
23:37:18 [sbp]
.google live steve mann feed
23:37:19 [xena]
live steve mann feed: http://wearcam.org
23:37:56 [deltab]
not a noun? what is it then?
23:37:58 [AaronSw]
ah: http://eyetap.org/tpw/index.php
23:38:29 [deltab]
[olm]
23:39:56 [AaronSw]
cool. Mann says GNU Linux
23:40:14 [sbp]
We should start making sure that the software we produce is COSHER
23:40:19 [sbp]
according to http://wearcam.org/cosher.htm
23:40:29 [sbp]
"Completely Open Source, Headers, Engineering, and Research"
23:41:39 [sbp]
"MOL is also an acceptable acronym" - [MOL]
23:42:44 [sbp]
ever get the feeling that you're the only one left in the room talking, and everyone else has gone to the pub?
23:43:14 [AaronSw]
sorry, what did you say? I was at the pub
23:43:19 [sbp]
heh, heh, heh
23:43:44 [AaronSw]
aha, here's the live feed: http://wearcam.org/myview.html
23:43:47 [sbp]
I can just imagine Aaron playing Morbus at pool, with deltab passed-out in the corner
23:45:16 [sbp]
live feed: PDN
23:45:24 [AaronSw]
PDN?
23:45:31 [AaronSw]
It's been off since 94 or so :(
23:46:33 [sbp]
Pretty Damn Neat. Shame that the word "live" no longer applies here, but still interesting all the same
23:46:53 [sbp]
nice progression: http://genesis.eecg.toronto.edu/steve5.jpg